{"id":7422,"date":"2010-11-05T19:22:55","date_gmt":"2010-11-05T23:22:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/?p=7422"},"modified":"2013-05-10T14:54:51","modified_gmt":"2013-05-10T18:54:51","slug":"november-5-2010-religious-schools-and-tax-credits","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/2010\/11\/05\/november-5-2010-religious-schools-and-tax-credits\/7422\/","title":{"rendered":" Religious Schools and Tax Credits"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!-- http:\/\/www-tc.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/rss\/media\/video\/episode.1410.religious.schools.m4v  --><\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align:center\"><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>School children reciting in unison: \u201cJohn Adams, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, James Monroe\u2026\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>GLENN DENNARD<\/strong>: It literally was a dream. Private school was a dream. It was like man, one day I\u2019d love to be able to. But with the scholarship program, you know, and our few nickels and pennies rubbed in together, we\u2019re able to send every one of our children to private school.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TIM O\u2019BRIEN<\/strong>, correspondent: Glenn and Rhonda Dennard of South Phoenix have six children, five of whom attended private schools. Students at the public schools in Arizona have scored low on standardized tests, and the Dennards felts public schools could not match the opportunities of nearby private schools.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/files\/2010\/11\/post03-religiousschools.jpg\" alt=\"post03-religiousschools\" width=\"240\" height=\"180\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-7450\" \/><strong>DENNARD<\/strong>: Every one of my children that have now gone to college, and it\u2019s been three, have all said their first year of college was easier than their two or three years of high school in the private school sector. That\u2019s just a blessing.<\/p>\n<p><strong>O\u2019BRIEN<\/strong>: A blessing because the Dennards don\u2019t have much money and could never have afforded private schools without the help of fellow Arizona taxpayers. Arizona allows taxpayers to contribute $500 to private student tuition organizations, or STOs as they are called, and deduct the full amount of their contribution from their state income taxes\u2014a dollar-for-dollar credit. Great for the Dennards and, it turns out, also great for church-run schools in Arizona, which flourished under the program, taking in some $30 million in tuition-credit donations last year alone. Lynn Hoffman is among a group of Phoenix taxpayers who challenged the Arizona program in court, arguing that the tuition tax credit unconstitutionally promotes religion at the expense of the state\u2019s public schools.<\/p>\n<p><strong>LYNN HOFFMAN<\/strong> (Plaintiff): I do not believe that the money that a taxpayer owes to the general fund should be diverted as it is being, I believe, in this case to private parochial schools. We\u2019re just diverting money out of our general fund to private schools, and I\u2019m a public school adherent, and I believe that we should keep the money in the general fund for our public schools.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/files\/2010\/11\/post02-religiousschools.jpg\" alt=\"post02-religiousschools\" width=\"240\" height=\"180\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-7451\" \/><strong>O\u2019BRIEN<\/strong>: After bouncing around the lower courts for ten years, Hoffman\u2019s challenge reached the US Supreme Court this week, with justices and lawyers debating a question more of semantics than of law: If the money doesn\u2019t come out of the state treasury because it never went into the state treasury, is it still taxpayer money? Attorneys for the state\u2019s largest STO say it is not.<\/p>\n<p><strong>DAVID CORTMAN<\/strong> (Attorney, Arizona Christian STO): We certainly take issue with the premise that this is government money. This is private taxpayer money, just like any other donation. It\u2019s simply not the government\u2019s money until you\u2019ve reached the bottom line of the tax form and no sooner.<\/p>\n<p><strong>O\u2019BRIEN<\/strong>: Attorney Paul Bender, representing the taxpayers challenging the Arizona tuition tax credit, asked the justices, if it\u2019s not the government\u2019s money, whose is it?<\/p>\n<p><strong>PAUL BENDER<\/strong> (Plaintiffs\u2019 Attorney): When you give this money as a credit, you cannot keep that money. You either have to pay it to the state Department of Revenue or you have to give it to an STO. It\u2019s not your money. \u201cYour money\u201d means you can keep it. You can\u2019t keep this money.<\/p>\n<p><strong>O\u2019BRIEN<\/strong>: If the STOs are funded by private, voluntary donations, as the state argues, they can pick and choose which students get scholarships and to which schools. They may also consider the students\u2019 religious beliefs.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/files\/2010\/11\/post05-religiousschools.jpg\" alt=\"post05-religiousschools\" width=\"240\" height=\"180\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-7453\" \/><strong>BENDER<\/strong>: The Arizona program distributes $30 million a year to people depending on their religion. You can get a scholarship if you\u2019re Catholic from one tuition organization. You can\u2019t get it if you\u2019re Jewish. Another one will give it to Jews, but not to Catholics. That\u2019s unconstitutional. The question is asked to a parent who comes to an STO, one of the religious STOs: \u201cWhat\u2019s your religion?\u201d You can\u2019t distribute government benefits by asking questions like that.<\/p>\n<p><strong>O\u2019BRIEN<\/strong>: Justice Antonin Scalia appeared to defend the Arizona program and noted that donations to churches are tax deductible even though churches routinely favor their own members\u2014an argument that resonated with STO lawyers.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CORTMAN<\/strong>: It is no different than if you give your charitable deduction to a church, and the church discriminates based on whatever religion it is, whether it\u2019s Jewish or Muslim or whatever it happens to be. Every religious organization\u2014quote, unquote\u2014and I hate to use the word discriminate, but they choose who to affiliate with. This is no different.<\/p>\n<p><strong>O\u2019BRIEN<\/strong>: That most of the money ends up going to Catholic or evangelical Christian schools, Cortman says, is not a problem.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/files\/2010\/11\/post06-religiousschools.jpg\" alt=\"post06-religiousschools\" width=\"240\" height=\"180\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-7454\" \/><strong>CORTMAN<\/strong>: It\u2019s interesting because statistics show that about 65 percent of the money goes to religious schools, but you have to keep in mind that 65 percent of the private schools are religious.<\/p>\n<p><strong>O\u2019BRIEN<\/strong>: There is another wrinkle in this case that could be even more important than the tuition question. Arizona is also arguing that just because they are taxpayers, the plaintiffs here have suffered no real injury and thus have no right to even challenge the program in court. It\u2019s a position the Obama administration embraced, writing in a friend of the court brief that the injury to taxpayers is \u201cinfinitesimally small and conjectural\u201d and defending the Arizona tax credit as a \u201cneutral program of private choice,\u201d all to the dismay and surprise of proponents of strict separation of church and state.<\/p>\n<p><strong>BARRY LYNN<\/strong> (Americans United for Separation of Church and State): It is truly shocking that the Obama administration, through the solicitor general, has taken the position to deny access to the courts for Arizona taxpayers and to support what is unequivocally a direct funding of religious private schools.<\/p>\n<p><strong>O\u2019BRIEN<\/strong>: More than the administration brief, President Obama\u2019s court appointments could change the landscape on the issue of church and state.  He replaced retiring Justices John Paul Stevens and David Souter, the court\u2019s staunchest advocates of strict separation, with Justices Sonya Sotomayor and Elena Kagan, whose views are not as well known. It\u2019s a new court, and this case could provide the first real glimpse of where it stands on church-state issues.<\/p>\n<p>For Religion &amp; Ethics NewsWeekly, I\u2019m Tim O\u2019Brien in Washington.<\/p>\n<p><iframe src=\"http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/plugins\/like.php?href=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pbs.org%2Fwnet%2Freligionandethics%2Fepisodes%2Fnovember-5-2010%2Freligious-schools-and-tax-credits%2F7422%2F&amp;layout=standard&amp;show_faces=true&amp;width=450&amp;action=like&amp;colorscheme=light&amp;height=80\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"0\" style=\"border:none;overflow:hidden;width:450px;height:80px\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Arizona gives tax credits to people who donate money to school tuition organizations that provide student scholarships. 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