{"id":8092,"date":"2011-06-10T17:11:39","date_gmt":"2011-06-10T21:11:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/?p=8092"},"modified":"2013-05-10T15:04:47","modified_gmt":"2013-05-10T19:04:47","slug":"february-4-2011-medical-cost-benefit-ethics","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/2011\/06\/10\/february-4-2011-medical-cost-benefit-ethics\/8092\/","title":{"rendered":" Medical Cost-Benefit Ethics"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!--  http:\/\/www-tc.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/rss\/media\/video\/episode.1441.medical.costs.m4v  --><\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align:center\"><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>BOB FAW<\/strong>, correspondent: From his backyard dock, the setting seems idyllic. With his devoted wife of 47 years, retired Air Force colonel Jim Horney should be enjoying the golden years.<\/p>\n<p><strong>JIM HORNEY<\/strong>: You know, you can look at me and say, golly, that guy looks good for 70. But there\u2019s a worm in the apple. <\/p>\n<p><strong>FAW<\/strong>: The \u201cworm\u201d is prostate cancer. Jim\u2019s doctor first diagnosed it as an aggressive cancer eight years ago. <\/p>\n<p><strong>HORNEY<\/strong>: I said how long can I expect to live with this serious prostate cancer? Her reply was on average about two-and-a-half years. This was in 2002. So two-and-a-half years\u2014I am obviously well past my expiration date, if you will.<\/p>\n<p><strong>FAW<\/strong>: Jim kept alive during the past eight years by undergoing hormonal therapy and radiation. But now the cancer has spread throughout his body. Desperate, this fall he started a revolutionary new treatment\u2014Provenge.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/files\/2011\/02\/post01-medicalcost.jpg\" alt=\"post01-medicalcost\" width=\"280\" height=\"210\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-8099\" \/><strong>FAW<\/strong>: Did you regard it as a miracle drug?<\/p>\n<p><strong>HORNEY<\/strong>: Absolutely, absolutely did, because I was tired, I was fatigued, I had no future looking at what I was doing now except a slow deterioration.<\/p>\n<p><strong>FAW<\/strong>: Provenge is the first so-called cancer vaccine\u2014not a pill mass-produced in a factory, but an individual treatment. The patient\u2019s blood cells are first drawn, exposed in a lab to a protein which mimics prostate cancer, then put back in the patient\u2019s body\u2014\u201csupercharged,\u201d if you will, to stimulate the patient\u2019s immune system to fight prostate cancer. <\/p>\n<p><strong>DR. PAUL SCHELLHAMMER<\/strong> (Urology of Virginia): The idea of having the body\u2019s own defenses revved up against this foreign invader is quite novel. It had never been applied to humans in a satisfactory and successful way, and this was, in that sense, a big breakthrough. <\/p>\n<p><strong>FAW<\/strong>: Approved last year to treat men with incurable prostate cancer, Provenge extends life for many patients by roughly four months. <\/p>\n<p><strong>HORNEY<\/strong>: That\u2019s the average. I\u2019m well on to beating the averages, and I will work at beating the averages. It is a miracle drug, and so yeah, I have great expectations for this. Huge expectations. Will it? We\u2019ll see.<\/p>\n<p>(speaking to wife): &#8230;$37,000 for the one treatment&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><strong>FAW<\/strong>: But the price tag for this so-called miracle drug is on average $93,000. Jim Horney\u2019s bill: $110,000.<\/p>\n<p><strong>HORNEY<\/strong>: $110,000. My goodness gracious! How do you, how do you work with something like that?<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/files\/2011\/02\/post02-medicalcost.jpg\" alt=\"post02-medicalcost\" width=\"280\" height=\"210\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-8100\" \/><strong>FAW<\/strong>: Jim Horney had to take out a $22,000 loan to pay for the first treatment while waiting to see if Medicare foots the entire bill.  <\/p>\n<p><strong>HORNEY<\/strong>: They do have me over a barrel, and if push comes to shove I will probably suck this up.<\/p>\n<p><strong>FAW<\/strong>: Urologist and oncologist Dr. Paul Schellhammer plans to use Provenge one day to fight his own prostate cancer. He has recommended it to some of his patients knowing how some will struggle with the decision.    <\/p>\n<p><strong>SCHELLHAMMER<\/strong>: For the person for whom it becomes a major hardship\u2014i.e., do I mortgage my home, do my kids not go to college\u2014I think that becomes an ethically based decision as to how important is life? Most men in this situation have lived 60, 70 years, and how important is another one, two, three years or two, three, four months? <\/p>\n<p><strong>BILL MCCLOSKEY<\/strong>: Yeah, it\u2019s not a long time. But, you know, when you\u2019re fighting for your life, four months, you know, is just four months more to be with your family, to be with your wife and to enjoy life.<\/p>\n<p><strong>FAW<\/strong>: Sixty-two-year-old engineer Bill McCloskey\u2019s insurance company is paying for his Provenge.<\/p>\n<p><strong>MCCLOSKEY<\/strong>: My father died of prostate cancer. This stuff was not available to him. I feel lucky to be living at a time when new treatments are being developed, when there is hope for the future.<\/p>\n<p><strong>FAW<\/strong>: And while the price is high, says McCloskey, in the long run it may prove to be anything but.<\/p>\n<p><strong>MCCLOSKEY<\/strong>: This opens up a whole brand new type of treatment and hope for cancer patients where utilizing the body\u2019s own immune system to fight the disease. This is not the end; this is just the beginning.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/files\/2011\/02\/post03-medicalcost.jpg\" alt=\"post03-medicalcost\" width=\"280\" height=\"210\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-8101\" \/><strong>FAW<\/strong>: Dr. Schellhammer says Provenge has almost no side effects and costs about as much as chemotherapy. Still, he is troubled by the skyrocketing cost of many cancer treatments. <\/p>\n<p><strong>SCHELLHAMMER<\/strong>: Once the FDA approves a drug, the pharmaceutical company or the biotech company then has carte blanche in establishing the price. I think there\u2019s been a disconnect between what it costs to develop, produce, and  bring to market versus what it eventually translates into with regard to either a windfall or a fair profit.<\/p>\n<p><strong>FAW<\/strong>: Dendreon, the developer of Provenge, says the price is fair for this revolutionary procedure, which it says took 15 years to perfect and at a cost of over one billion dollars. [Editor&#8217;s Note: The original version of this story included a statement about Dendreon&#8217;s return on investment. It has been removed from the script and the video at the company&#8217;s request.] But as the cost of new cancer treatments continues to escalate, ethicists are asking how does one put a price tag on human life? And in a society with limited resources and virtually unlimited medical needs, who decides who will get that expensive treatment and who doesn\u2019t?<\/p>\n<p><strong>DR. RUTH FADEN<\/strong> (Director, Berman Institute of Bioethics, Johns Hopkins University): If we think it\u2019s worth the money, right, do we find a way to squeeze it out of the allocation we\u2019ve got from health care now? Do we find places where we want to squeeze it out from something else? Do we want to attach a higher value to extending the last few months of a person\u2019s life than we would to any other random four months over the course of a lifespan?<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/files\/2011\/02\/post04-medicalcost.jpg\" alt=\"post04-medicalcost\" width=\"280\" height=\"210\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-8102\" \/><strong>FAW<\/strong>: Ultimately, and unfortunately, says ethicist Dr. Ruth Faden, director of the Johns Hopkins Berman Institute of Bioethics, the basic question comes down to cost and benefit. <\/p>\n<p><strong>FADEN<\/strong>: It would be really nice if we could come up with a structure in which the price of the drug was attached to its value and we had a way of agreeing what that value was.<\/p>\n<p><strong>FAW<\/strong>: There is no such mechanism?<\/p>\n<p><strong>FADEN<\/strong>: Not yet.<\/p>\n<p><strong>FAW<\/strong>: In fact now, say medical practitioners, now there is no such mechanism. Who gets Provenge and who doesn\u2019t comes down to a basic proposition.<\/p>\n<p>(speaking to Dr. Schellhammer): The bottom line is economics. <\/p>\n<p><strong>SCHELLHAMMER<\/strong>: Currently, that is the case. <\/p>\n<p><strong>FAW<\/strong>: As to who gets the drug. <\/p>\n<p><strong>SCHELLHAMMER<\/strong>: Yes. We have many more patients than the supply could provide, but many of them say, \u201cI just cannot afford it, and that\u2019s not in my realm of possibility.\u201d So they are screened out by that fact.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/files\/2011\/02\/post05-medicalcost.jpg\" alt=\"post05-medicalcost\" width=\"280\" height=\"210\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-8103\" \/><strong>FAW<\/strong>: Let\u2019s be candid. They are screened out by economics.<\/p>\n<p><strong>SCHELLHAMMER<\/strong>: Oh, absolutely.<\/p>\n<p><strong>FAW<\/strong>: For some, however, economic considerations are secondary. Getting that extra four months of life\u2014maybe more\u2014is priceless.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ANNE HORNEY<\/strong>: My husband\u2019s worth it, and if it means selling our house, so be it. He\u2019s more important to me. <\/p>\n<p><strong>FAW<\/strong>: What\u2019s his life really worth? Is it\u2014can you put a price tag on life? <\/p>\n<p><strong>ANNE HORNEY<\/strong>: No, certainly not. No, no. <\/p>\n<p><strong>FAW<\/strong>: It is, then, an ongoing debate over a medical treatment which is new\u2014and a problem which is not.<\/p>\n<p><strong>FADEN<\/strong>: Even before we get the Provenges, we have lots of cancer patients in this country who can\u2019t afford their cancer medications as it is. We\u2019ve got a messy health care system where we haven\u2019t figured out what we think constitutes good value for our money. It\u2019s that striking a balance\u2014easy to say, almost impossible to achieve so far. <\/p>\n<p><strong>FAW<\/strong>: Until that balance is reached for Bill McCloskey, who recently completed his third and final treatment of Provenge, and Jim Horney, still waiting to see how Provenge affects his cancer, there will be both hope and anxiety.     <\/p>\n<p>For Religion &amp; Ethics Newsweekly this is Bob Faw in Poquoson, Virginia.<\/p>\n<p><em>Since this piece first aired in February, Jim Horney tells us he is \u201chugely\u201d disappointed with the drug. He says he had only a brief improvement. 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