{"id":8584,"date":"2011-04-15T18:14:09","date_gmt":"2011-04-15T22:14:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/?p=8584"},"modified":"2013-05-10T15:26:46","modified_gmt":"2013-05-10T19:26:46","slug":"april-15-2011-moral-questions-and-military-intervention","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/2011\/04\/15\/april-15-2011-moral-questions-and-military-intervention\/8584\/","title":{"rendered":" Moral Questions and Military Intervention"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!-- http:\/\/www-tc.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/rss\/media\/video\/episode.1433.military.intervention.m4v --><\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align:center\"><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>KIM LAWTON<\/strong>, correspondent: In justifying last month\u2019s military intervention in Libya, President Obama used solely humanitarian reasons, saying the US was acting to prevent a massacre of innocent civilians.<\/p>\n<p><em>President Barack Obama (from March 28, 2011 speech): Some nations may be able to turn a blind eye to atrocities in other countries. The United States of America is different.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>LAWTON<\/strong>: According to prominent Yale Law School professor Stephen Carter, this marks a significant moral shift in America\u2019s use of force.<\/p>\n<p><strong>PROFESSOR STEPHEN CARTER<\/strong> (Yale Law School): President Obama, unlike his recent predecessors, has taken the position that one of the things the American military will do in the world is intervene to protect people who are being slaughtered by their own government, and that\u2019s an enormous break with America\u2019s practice.<\/p>\n<p><strong>LAWTON<\/strong>: In previous conflicts, including the first Gulf War and air strikes in the Balkans, US presidents argued that while humanitarian factors may have also been at play, military action was in America\u2019s strategic interests.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/files\/2011\/04\/post02-moralqsmilitary.jpg\" alt=\"post02-moralqsmilitary\" width=\"280\" height=\"210\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-8609\" \/><strong>CARTER<\/strong>: The argument that is being offered for Libya is entirely the argument that we have no self-interest here except to protect these people who are going to be slaughtered. Now I know a lot of people think, \u201cWell there\u2019s something else going on, there\u2019s really another reason.\u201d Who knows? All that could be true, but what\u2019s really interesting is that the language the White House is using is entirely the language of humanitarian intervention.<\/p>\n<p><strong>LAWTON<\/strong>: Carter has a new book called <em>The Violence of Peace: America\u2019s Wars in the Age of Obama<\/em>. He claims the man many voters considered the \u201cpeace candidate\u201d has turned into a \u201cwar president\u201d with an expanding philosophy about the use of force. Carter says that philosophy was signaled in Obama\u2019s 2009 acceptance of the Nobel Peace Prize.<\/p>\n<p><em>President Barack Obama (from 2009 Nobel Peace Prize acceptance speech): Inaction tears at our conscience and can lead to more costly intervention later. That\u2019s why all responsible nations must embrace the role that militaries with a clear mandate can play to keep the peace.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>CARTER<\/strong>: What\u2019s striking about the war in Libya, whether one is for it or against it, is that it shows that President Obama was serious, that he actually meant what he said, that he actually believes that\u2019s a justified use of American power.<\/p>\n<p><strong>LAWTON<\/strong>: Carter asserts that Saint Augustine and other early developers of the just war theory supported the idea of using force to achieve justice.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/files\/2011\/04\/post01-moralqsmilitary.jpg\" alt=\"post01-moralqsmilitary\" width=\"280\" height=\"210\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-8608\" \/><strong>CARTER<\/strong>: Today we look at self-defense as the axiomatic case where everyone agrees that\u2019s when you can go to war. For the early thinkers that was one of the weakest cases, because as Augustine liked to say, \u201cYou should never go to war out of love for yourself but only out of love for others.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>LAWTON<\/strong>: The price of inaction, Carter says, can indeed be terribly high, as was the case in Rwanda when nearly a million people were killed in the 1994 genocide. The US did not intervene there.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CARTER<\/strong>: President Clinton later said that was the greatest failure of his presidency, and I think it\u2019s absolutely right. I think it was a grave moral mistake by the country that is not only the leader of the free world but also the preeminent military power in the world.<\/p>\n<p><strong>LAWTON<\/strong>: How do you morally weigh Libya versus Darfur?<\/p>\n<p><strong>CARTER<\/strong>: What I think the administration has not done successfully in Libya is made the case about why, if you\u2019re going to make a humanitarian intervention, this is the place to do it. There are places in the world that cry out for military intervention. Darfur is the most obvious of those, where you have had a genocide go on for a long period of time. Successive presidents have chosen not to go to Darfur. Why Libya? Why not Bahrain? Why not Yemen?<\/p>\n<p><strong>LAWTON<\/strong>: Carter says the administration should make public the intelligence it acted upon.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CARTER<\/strong>: It\u2019s important that it try to explain to the American people and to the world why it was so certain that atrocities would be committed unless the West intervened quickly.<\/p>\n<p><strong>LAWTON<\/strong>: And Carter asserts the American public also has a responsibility in determining what things are worth killing for\u2014and dying for.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CARTER<\/strong>: We need to develop a moral language, an ability to talk about war because it\u2019s so very important\u2014talk about war without regard to party or country but rather in the sense of what\u2019s fundamentally right or wrong. What is it that, in a just society and just world, force should ever be used for?<\/p>\n<p><strong>LAWTON<\/strong>: Carter believes the centuries-old just war theory is still the best place to begin.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CARTER<\/strong>: It supplies a vocabulary, a vocabulary that asks us to think, is there a just cause? Is this the last resort? Can the use of force actually do the thing that we claim we are setting out to do? And is our use of force proportional to the problem we are trying to solve? When we ask questions like that we\u2019re asking moral questions. I think those are the right questions to ask.<\/p>\n<p><strong>LAWTON<\/strong>: And they are questions, he says, that will come up well beyond Libya.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m Kim Lawton reporting.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A Yale Law School professor considers what force should be used for in a just world and says intervening militarily to protect people being slaughtered by their own government is &#8220;an enormous break with America\u2019s practice.&#8221; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/2011\/04\/15\/april-15-2011-moral-questions-and-military-intervention\/8584\/\" class=\"more\">More <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":72,"featured_media":17338,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[6569],"tags":[2576,321,246,1321,254,979,6037,4491,2583,6164,2552,9721],"class_list":["post-8584","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-videocast","tag-american-foreign-policy","tag-barack-obama","tag-darfur","tag-ethics-tag","tag-genocide","tag-humanitarian","tag-just-war","tag-libya","tag-military-intervention","tag-moral","tag-rwanda","tag-stephen-carter","topics-international"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>April 15, 2011 ~ Moral Questions and Military Intervention | April 15, 2011 | Religion &amp; 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