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KIM LAWTON<\/strong>, correspondent: Martin Sheen says \u201cThe Way\u201d is ultimately about a journey\u2014a journey of the spirit as well as the flesh.<\/p>\n

WOMAN (in film clip): So what is it, on a pilgrimage to change your life?<\/p>\n

TOM (in film clip): Something like that.<\/em><\/p>\n

MARTIN SHEEN<\/strong>: All of our journeys are personal, deeply personal, and they\u2019re all mysterious, you know. We\u2019re all looking for that transcendence, but we\u2019re looking to each other, and we identify with each other. I think the genius of God is choosing to dwell where we are least likely to look, within the depths of our own being.<\/p>\n

DANIEL (in film clip): If I don\u2019t have your blessing that\u2019s fine, but don\u2019t judge this. Don\u2019t judge me.<\/p>\n

TOM (in film clip): My life here might not seem like much to you, but it\u2019s the life I choose.<\/p>\n

DANIEL (in film clip): You don\u2019t choose a life, Dad. You live one.<\/em><\/p>\n

\"post01-theway\"LAWTON<\/strong>: The story centers around Sheen\u2019s character, Tom, a doctor who has a strained relationship with his free-spirited son, Daniel. Daniel dies in a freak storm in Europe, and when Tom goes to collect his remains, he discovers his son had been walking the famed 500-mile pilgrimage across Spain known as El Camino de Santiago\u2014The Way of Saint James.<\/p>\n

MAN (in film clip): We believers are told that the remains of Saint James, the apostle of Jesus, are interned there, and so we make pilgrimage. This is what your son, Daniel, was doing.<\/em><\/p>\n

LAWTON<\/strong>: Grief-stricken, Tom decides to finish the pilgrimage himself, sprinkling Daniel\u2019s ashes as he goes. Along the way he meets three other pilgrims, and together they search for healing and ultimate meaning in their lives. The story was inspired by a trip Sheen took to the Camino several years ago, although he drove instead of walking. He came home and told Estevez they needed to do a project around it. Estevez wrote the script, casting his father, who is a practicing Catholic, against type.<\/p>\n

FATHER FRANK (in film clip): Are you a Catholic?<\/p>\n

TOM (in film clip): I don\u2019t practice anymore. You know, Mass at Christmas, Easter, that\u2019s about it.<\/p>\n

FATHER FRANK (in film clip): Here, take this.<\/p>\n

TOM (in film clip): No, I can\u2019t take your rosary, Father.<\/p>\n

FATHER FRANK: No, please take it. There are a lot of lapsed Catholics on the Camino, kid. Besides\u2026<\/em><\/p>\n

\"post03-theway\"EMILIO ESTEVEZ<\/strong>: There cannot be conversion if you already start out being devout. Let\u2019s open the film where you\u2019re not even interested in praying with your parish priest, right? He\u2019s reached bottom now. He\u2019s a widower, he\u2019s now lost his son. He\u2019s totally alone in the world, he\u2019s without family. His idea of community is, you know, playing golf with his fellow doctors at the country club, and so I needed him to be at that place so that by the time this character arrives at the end of the film, there is a transformation. He is awake. He is converted.<\/p>\n

LAWTON<\/strong>: Sheen says his Catholic faith was strengthened by seeing and experiencing the rituals of the Camino pilgrimage and the Mass that takes place at the Cathedral of Santiago de Compostela when the pilgrims finally arrive.<\/p>\n

SHEEN<\/strong>: The botafumiero<\/em>, you know, the incense ceremony at the end of the Mass, brings out a deeply moving exaltation from the congregation. They burst into applause, and many of them burst into tears. And, you know, the incense is an offering to God, you know, but it\u2019s also an ancient tradition and ritual, and we don\u2019t have a whole lot of ritual in our lives. You know, we\u2019ve lost more and more of ritual just within our own family structures\u2014evening meals, evening, you know, family prayer. So I think people are\u2014they respond to ritual. It\u2019s something that you can get reconnected with, in a way. You know, they\u2019ve been doing that since the Middle Ages.<\/p>\n

LAWTON<\/strong>: And you had mentioned earlier just with pilgrimage, the sense of the physical, the flesh and the spiritual coming together. How did you see that, especially there?<\/p>\n

SHEEN<\/strong>: Well, you know, pilgrimage is kind of a demanding struggle. It must be to take you out of your comfort zone. So you go to a place, whether it\u2019s Mecca or Santiago or Tibet or Rome, Jerusalem, wherever it is\u2014you\u2019re seeking something, and you\u2019re going to have to do it on your own. Nobody can carry your pack. Nobody can walk in your shoes. You must do it alone, but you cannot do it without community.<\/p>\n

LAWTON<\/strong>: The difficulty of the journey, he says, touches the soul.<\/p>\n

\"post04-theway\"SHEEN<\/strong>: You begin the journey within. Now the real pilgrimage begins, because now you have to open up the dungeons and jail cells of your heart and release all of the things that have been keeping you from being yourself, keeping you from, you know, discovering who you really are. So you let go of your resentments and your anger and your jealousies and your hatreds and all the dark parts, and eventually you\u2019ll become free, you\u2019ll become yourself, and you\u2019ll become part of your extended family, which is community.<\/p>\n

ESTEVEZ<\/strong>: And sometimes that family and those people you pick up along the Camino are not necessarily people you would choose. They choose you in many ways, and yet those are the people that we sometimes learn the greatest lessons from.<\/p>\n

LAWTON<\/strong>: Estevez describes his own spiritual situation as still evolving.<\/p>\n

ESTEVEZ<\/strong>: I\u2019m what my mother likes to call a work in progress. My parents\u2014I grew up in a house where my parents differed on what religion was all about. She was raised Southern Baptist, wasn\u2019t allowed to see movies or dance. It was very, very strict. He was raised a devout Catholic.<\/p>\n

SHEEN<\/strong>: We sang and danced all the time.<\/p>\n

ESTEVEZ<\/strong>: So as a young boy\u2014I was baptized Catholic, but all I heard were arguments about religion. There was no talk about spirituality. So I sort of had to take a step back from that.<\/p>\n

LAWTON<\/strong>: He says this film has opened him up to new spiritual possibilities.<\/p>\n

\"post05-theway\"ESTEVEZ<\/strong>: I think it\u2019s an example, a shining example of where I\u2019m at right now in terms of my spiritual path, the path I\u2019m on.<\/p>\n

SHEEN<\/strong>: Are you saying there\u2019s a chance you could become a Catholic?<\/p>\n

ESTEVEZ<\/strong>: I\u2019m just saying there\u2019s a possibility of everything. I\u2019m open to the possibility of absolutely everything.<\/p>\n

SHEEN<\/strong>: Buddhist even?<\/p>\n

ESTEVEZ<\/strong>: I said everything.<\/p>\n

SHEEN<\/strong>: Okay, I\u2019m just asking. We don\u2019t get this opportunity.<\/p>\n

JACK (in film clip): So far, there are some 15 percent say they are doing it for health. Fewer than 5 percent say they are actually looking for a miracle.<\/p>\n

TOM (in film clip): Miracles are in short supply these days, Jack.<\/em><\/p>\n

LAWTON<\/strong>: Despite the setting and themes, the film\u2019s religious messages are subtle. \u00a0Estevez says he didn\u2019t want to hit people over the head. But they have been marketing \u201cThe Way\u201d at special screenings for Catholic groups\u2014and for evangelical audiences, too.<\/p>\n

ESTEVEZ<\/strong>: People will stand up and begin to witness and give testimony, and probably 60 percent of the Q and As really have no Qs. They basically just want to stand up and say thank you for making this film, and this movie touched me because\u2026<\/p>\n

\"post07-theway\"LAWTON<\/strong>: What\u2019s been the reaction of the church, the Catholic Church?<\/p>\n

ESTEVEZ<\/strong>: Amazing. Yeah, amazing. Across the board. And it started in Spain. You know, we screened the film in, opened the film in Santiago. We were there for the pope\u2019s Mass last October, and then two days later we screened the film for the archbishop of Santiago and the government of Galicia, and we were sitting in a little tiny box in a 200-year-old theater, and we were sweating because we were so nervous about how they would react.<\/p>\n

SHEEN<\/strong>: They were the first audience.<\/p>\n

ESTEVEZ<\/strong>: Right, and so the archbishop turned to my father after the screening and hugged him and said, “This film is a gift. Thank you.”<\/p>\n

SHEEN<\/strong>: They were very relieved, basically.<\/p>\n

ESTEVEZ<\/strong>: And so were we.<\/p>\n

LAWTON<\/strong>: They say they hope their audiences get as much out of this project as they did.<\/p>\n

SHEEN<\/strong>: Whatever the audience takes away is going to be their gift, if you will. We offer this gift. If they accept it, we\u2019re delighted.<\/p>\n

ESTEVEZ<\/strong>: We don\u2019t impose our Camino on anyone, but we say get outside of yourself and join us on this journey.<\/p>\n

LAWTON<\/strong>: I\u2019m Kim Lawton reporting.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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