{"id":9768,"date":"2011-10-21T13:05:33","date_gmt":"2011-10-21T17:05:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/?p=9768"},"modified":"2013-05-10T15:08:43","modified_gmt":"2013-05-10T19:08:43","slug":"october-21-2011-multifaith-theological-education","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/2011\/10\/21\/october-21-2011-multifaith-theological-education\/9768\/","title":{"rendered":" Multifaith Theological Education"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!-- http:\/\/www-tc.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/rss\/media\/video\/episode.1508.multifaith.corrected.m4v --><\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align:center\"><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>SAUL GONZALEZ<\/strong>, correspondent: With Korean-American drummers leading a line of professors, a new experiment in American religious education began this fall. This was the opening of southern California\u2019s Claremont Lincoln University, which describes itself as America\u2019s first interreligious school of theology, one that will train pastors, rabbis, and eventually Muslim imams all on one campus. The school\u2019s philosophy was captured in the opening remarks of Muslim-American religious scholar Najeeba Syeed-Miller, a professor at Claremont Lincoln.<\/p>\n<p><strong>PROFESSOR NAJEEBA SYEED-MILLER<\/strong>: The diversity of humankind is not a curse from God. It is a sign of God\u2019s creation, and the beauty of humanity is in our very differences.<\/p>\n<p><strong>GONZALEZ<\/strong>: What do you hope to accomplish here at Claremont Lincoln? What\u2019s the grand vision?<\/p>\n<p><strong>PHILIP CLAYTON<\/strong> (Provost, Claremont Lincoln University): You have to get beyond the point of people defining their religions by the traditional walls.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>GONZALEZ<\/strong>: Philip Clayton is Claremont Lincoln\u2019s provost. He sees this school as offering an alternative to traditional religious education.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/files\/2011\/10\/post01-multifaitheducation.jpg\" alt=\"post01-multifaitheducation\" width=\"280\" height=\"210\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-9772\" \/><strong>CLAYTON<\/strong>: When you train rabbis in one school, pastors in another, imams in another, you put them out into communities they create an \u201cus versus them\u201d mentality. What if we do something that\u2019s never been done before? Let\u2019s train them in the same classroom. Let\u2019s let them work out their differences in their day-to-day education. When they go out into their communities you won\u2019t find them doing the \u201cus versus them,\u201d but, we hope, the \u201cwe.\u201d What that would for the face of religion in America would be staggering.<\/p>\n<p><strong>GONZALEZ<\/strong>: Claremont Lincoln is actually the creation of a much older institution, United Methodist-affiliated Claremont School of Theology, founded in 1885. It partnered with southern California\u2019s Academy of Jewish Religion and the Islamic Center of Southern California to form this new school. Students attending this school can get master\u2019s degrees in divinity, rabbinic studies, and Muslim counseling. <\/p>\n<p><strong>INSTRUCTOR<\/strong>: I&#8217;d like you to stand or to turn in the direction that you normally pray.<\/p>\n<p><strong>GONZALEZ<\/strong>: But all are required to take classes like this one that emphasize interreligious education and understanding. Many of the students feel they couldn\u2019t get this kind of multifaith education anywhere else.<\/p>\n<p><strong>WALLY BURMAN<\/strong> (Student): Most of the reason I\u2019m here is I looked at the other colleges and other programs, and it appeared they were preparing students to be leaders in the church of yesterday, where Claremont is training people to be leaders in the church of tomorrow.<\/p>\n<p><strong>GONZALEZ<\/strong>: This school\u2019s ambition to train Muslim clerics is important to Valentina Khan, a Muslim-American student of Iranian descent.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/files\/2011\/10\/post02-multifaitheducation.jpg\" alt=\"post02-multifaitheducation\" width=\"280\" height=\"210\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-9773\" \/><strong>VALENTINA KHAN<\/strong> (Student): I definitely think that we need to have is a voice that\u2019s an American voice as Muslims. I mean, having somebody in Saudi Arabia telling us how it should be here in America is absolutely, in my opinion, not the way I&#8217;d want to be told.<\/p>\n<p><strong>GONZALEZ<\/strong>: However, the creation of this school has also generated some criticism.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CLAYTON<\/strong>: I\u2019m actively involved in blogging and social networking, and I began to find sites that would label what we were doing as the work of the devil, and people absolutely guaranteeing the blogosphere that I was on my way to hell, so that it really drew a hostility. People felt that we were undercutting the way they defined their entire religious tradition, which is this oppositional and exclusionary approach.<\/p>\n<p><strong>GONZALEZ<\/strong>: However, many of the students and faculty at Claremont Lincoln don\u2019t want to ignore the tensions and theological differences between their faiths.<\/p>\n<p><strong>SYEED-MILLER<\/strong>: I actually hope that there is conflict. I often say when we get together in interfaith dialogue we try to \u201cout-nice\u201d each other and say, \u201cOh, you know, you\u2019re wonderful!\u201d \u201cNo, you are wonderful!\u201d If we are truly going to be conversation partners, we need to say, \u201cLook, this is how I view your tradition.\u201d I think we really need to get into conversations about history, because so much of what we carry in interfaith dialogue is about the negative histories that each of our communities has had with one another, so if we are not willing to go there then I don\u2019t think any of us are going to be able to move forward.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/files\/2011\/10\/post03-multifaitheducation.jpg\" alt=\"post03-multifaitheducation\" width=\"280\" height=\"210\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-9774\" \/><strong>GONZALEZ<\/strong>: Beyond America\u2019s changing religious landscape, there\u2019s another reason why Claremont went multifaith: survival. Like other schools of theology and seminaries during these tough economic times, this campus faced a declining enrollment and a tightening budget. Allowing students from other faiths to train here is one way to keep the lights on and the doors open.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CLAYTON<\/strong>: This is an extremely hard time for American theological schools. We could go on with a dwindling number of Methodists students, but we decided we wanted to be ahead of the curve.<\/p>\n<p><strong>GONZALEZ<\/strong>: Well, ahead of the curve because you had to be. I mean, you had to open up this institution to other faiths to keep your head above water.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CLAYTON<\/strong>: Sure, but we had a 45-year history of being edgy. We were always sort of pushing the envelope, and so we decided we would push the envelope on this one.<\/p>\n<p><strong>GONZALEZ<\/strong>: To help it go multifaith, this school received a $50 million grant from philanthropist David Lincoln and his wife, Joan. In their honor, the school was named after them. Clayton believes to survive more and more schools of theology and seminaries will have to adopt Claremont\u2019s interreligous approach.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CLAYTON<\/strong>: We\u2019re starting to get visits from academic deans and presidents who say, \u201cOh, we&#8217;ve see where you\u2019re going. Can we talk about this new movement?\u201d<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/files\/2011\/10\/post05-multifaitheducation.jpg\" alt=\"post05-multifaitheducation\" width=\"280\" height=\"210\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-9776\" \/><strong>GONZALEZ<\/strong>: But skepticism remains high.<\/p>\n<p><strong>DENNIS DIRKS <\/strong>(Dean, Talbot School of Theology): It\u2019s fine for Claremont. It would not be good for us.<\/p>\n<p><strong>GONZALEZ<\/strong>: Dennis Dirks is the dean of the Talbot School of Theology in southern California, a Christian multidenominational evangelical institution. He says religious clarity, not a mixing of faiths, is essential to a religious school, arguing a multifaith approach could weaken the curriculum and anger alumni and other campus supporters.<\/p>\n<p><strong>DIRKS<\/strong>: We\u2019re frequently asked, \u201cDo you admit non-Christians here?\u201d They want to know. They want to hold us accountable for that, so that&#8217;s something that we want to look at very carefully.<\/p>\n<p><strong>GONZALEZ<\/strong>: And they want to make sure that the non-Christians are not here.<\/p>\n<p><strong>DIRKS<\/strong>: Well, yes, not as enrolled students, because they are fearful of diffusion of the curriculum.<\/p>\n<p><strong>GONZALEZ<\/strong>: But do you think it\u2019s easy for faiths to cohabitate like that in theological instruction?<\/p>\n<p><strong>DIRKS<\/strong>: No, I think it\u2019s very difficult. I think there are great challenges.<\/p>\n<p><strong>GONZALEZ:<\/strong> However, at Claremont they think the future is on their side in an increasingly multifaith America.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CLASSROOM SPEAKER<\/strong>: Some of us are looking in a Jewish direction. Some of us are looking in a Muslim direction. Some are looking in a Christian direction. And yet we are all looking in a God direction.<\/p>\n<p><strong>GONZALEZ<\/strong>: Beyond Christians, Jews, and Muslims, administrators here are already talking about enrolling Jains, Buddhists, and Hindus.<\/p>\n<p>For Religion &amp; Ethics NewsWeekly, I\u2019m Saul Gonzalez in Los Angeles.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Claremont School of Theology, the Islamic Center of Southern California, and the Academy for Jewish Religion California are partners in a new effort to educate leaders for churches, synagogues, and mosques in shared classes. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/2011\/10\/21\/october-21-2011-multifaith-theological-education\/9768\/\" class=\"more\">More <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":72,"featured_media":17513,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[6569],"tags":[10127,10131,6430,4934,5206,7485,7487],"class_list":["post-9768","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-videocast","tag-claremont-lincoln-university","tag-claremont-school-of-theology","tag-interfaith-dialogue","tag-interreligious","tag-multifaith","tag-seminary","tag-theological-education","topics-faith-and-spirituality"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.1.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>October 21, 2011 ~ Multifaith Theological Education | October 21, 2011 | Religion &amp; 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