Dr. John Horgan is the director of the International Center for the Study of Terrorism at Penn State University. In researching the question of how and why militants disengage from terrorist movements, Horgan has interviewed former terrorists from Ireland to Indonesia.

FOCAL POINT spoke to Dr. Horgan about the Saudi program for the rehabilitation of former jihadists, and the common experiences of former terrorists from around the globe.

Click on the audio file below to hear the interview.

Photo courtesy of The International Center for the Study of Terrorism, The Pennsylvania State University.