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The Moyers blog is a many layered onion in itself. A rigged election for President makes little difference when all three major candidates are so weak.
I was tickled by claims below that Bible texts predicted 9/11. If these profiteering prophets saw it in their studies why didn't they warn us by 9/10/2001?
Dick Cheney is no Bible scholar but I think he knew what was coming as far back as 1999, and how it would go down.
There's more rigging in our dilemma than that in our polls, my dears.
It's mind-boggling. We've had two stolen Presidential elections in a row. Not only were the results allowed to stand both times, but we have yet to take meaningful action to insure that future elections will be fair and aboveboard. The (supposed) oposition party pretends that nothing is seriously wrong. The mainstream media pretend that nothing is seriously wrong. Much of the public seems unaware that anything is serioiusly wrong.
Voting machines designed to be easily hacked from outside and easly rigged by insiders are one problem. Dirty tricks are another, such as making sure that districts domated by the preferred party get plenty of voting machinces, while districts domated by the other party get far too few.
Re:Vote Scam
Have the Collier Bros. been discredited? I first read this book in 1992 aftre listening to an interview with Larry King on late night radio. (I later asked Mr. King in another on air interview if there was anything that had been proven wrong in the book and he denied ever having heard of it or the Collier Brothers.)
Thanks so Much!
Charlatans use numerology and cryptic writings from the past to produce prophesy. Any book as thick and vague as the Bible could be used to predict or recap virtually any event. Try opening your unabridged dictionary at random if you want to predict the future. All millenialist (psychotic) Christians should carry a blessed Eightball (toy) to save turning them thar thin pages (onionskin?). "Ain't Jesus coming Tuesday?" Eigthball:
"Maybe." Hey,if you disagree with the Bible you could tear out them ol' bad pages, like Catholic Romans in the 3rd century.
To ecdistributions 3-4-11:21 PM
Psalms 22 occurred way before Christ died on the cross, but some of his last words were in this verse. It has been suggested that He was teaching the Jewish scholars till the end , as they would have been familiar with Psalms.
Can you supply some verses & from what edition of the Bible they are taken, that will help me check out your distribution message?
Thanks.
Respectfully,
Billy Bob
The Iraqi people are hungry for democratic freedom and willing to die for it. Many Americans however are voting for the opposite contrast of freedom called socialism this year. Annalists are already predicting a huge sweep of leftists coming into both the U.S. house and senate on the coat tails of the white house this fall. These leftists openly consider christian patriots the enemy of their state even above the terrorists. These people are itching to pass the fairness doctrine to put an end to conservative talk radio. They are already targeting hate legislation aimed directly against all American patriots. They plan a massive overhaul of the judicial system to impose legislation against 1st and 2nd amendment rights.
McCain will make the Iraq war the central issue of this campaign because Obama promises to withdraw our troops regardless if the terrorists declare victory. Christians may have one last chance to grandstand against another Vietnam and the establishment of an anti christian socialistic state in America. But there is now a
new hope!
A new biblical discovery has just been released into the market bringing a miraculous prophecy about Iraq. There are a large number of biblical scriptures which have passed silently under the radar until now.
Iraq is to be freed by a great eagle wings in the latter day prophecy! This is welcome news coming straight from the Bible just before the election. Most Americans still believe in Bible prophecy above political persuasions.
If the war in Iraq represents Gods will actually predicted in Bible prophecy, this may be our chance to unify christians and patriots before this critical election takes place. Obama claims to be a good christian. Could he now become exposed publically for apposing "the great eagle" freeing Iraq in Bible prophecy?
A Salem christian group published an important press release concerning this true Biblical discovery! This stunning declaration comes from one of the most reputable christian publishers in America... www.eternaltruth.net
One critic asked the author how he could possibly announce a discovery about 9/11 and Iraq in Bible prophecy?
"Aren't you exploiting thousands of American deaths within this current war and 9/11 just to sell a book?"
Author.." "That is my greatest consulation! Many people including veterans are purchasing this book witnessing biblical references which prove my research has a foundation in true prophecy. People are witnessing biblical prophecies unfold before their eyes concerning Iraq being freed by modern eagle.
Amazon.com announces on their web sight they have sold out this book and are now ordering more!"
"There are no unsatisfied customers complaining of not receiving any thing less than promised from the author." "There are steady reports of people finding far more than what they ever expected possible.
It would be unforgivable for any author to promise something like this to exploit a national tragedy for book sales." Many lives have been lost including families with children having lost their parents. This author is not letting people down who purchase this book in good faith. We are delivering a true message taken from biblical prophets directed for our time. "I have four children of my own, if my book were to become exposed as a manipulation of biblical text such would forever mark my children's name as well as my own." I actually
found this message in which I am claiming.
I have been blessed to have discovered such a wonderful message deliberately placed into the Bible which
might unite believers together before this election. I need your help because the media ignores everything concerning this discovery. It is very hard to believe this yourself until you witness it first hand.
Author of this book,
Paul Gregersen
Listen now to an educated critic and his expert opinion regarding this miraclulous book.
"Reading this particular book has made me aware of how christians have come to accept biblical spin and less than honest interpretations when reading books on Bible prophecy." When I started reading "Bible prophecies of 9 - 11" the whole idea of 9 - 11 and Iraq being in Bible prophecy admittedly was quite appealing to me.
But it seemed very far fetched and I fully expected to discover another fiction story cleverly masked behind a another "new" biblical declaration. I fully expected to see the familiar hand picking of quotes deliberately coming from the authors’ selection of unrelated texts to manipulate the meaning of Bible text. I've learned that it is a common trick to cleverly combine unrelated verses from separated biblical context in order to stretch readers’ perception beyond the original focus toward the authors’ conclusions, creating the appearance that authors conclusions are also supported by the Bible.
My first surprise while reading this book was to see this author approach things quite differently by laying a biblical foundation from Adam and Eve with the tree of life story, establishing common threads for his entire biblical claim. As the first chapters began to build solidly on biblical themes I quickly realized this particular author was either seriously attempting to link legitimate patterns of bible prophecy, or he was using an even more clever deception to mislead me. This author surprisingly understood the procedure to outline proper types and shadows and stay within one context while linking proper biblical themes. Since the author was not spinning I suspected that he would postpone taking of his liberties until he would be forced into a corner having to demonstrate 9 - 11 towers falling and eagle's wings into modern Iraq.
To my surprise the transition was smooth and never broke context or prophetic flow. Not only was 9 - 11 coming straight from the Bible but almost every highly specific detail, including the number of planes that hit each target, was referenced in the Bible with numerous exact details specifically related to 9 - 11. This book does not just stop there, but continued to unwind the scenario of America going to Iraq spelling out the exact manner of Saddam’s capture and execution. This was a highly unusual book! This book was based on what was written in the Bible and relied solely upon that premise. How do I react to this other than try to convince someone to read it and find out? I feel concerned that christians are so used to being tricked by each cry of wolf that when the real thing appears there will be a little comprehension that something amazing has occurred. I have wracked my mind as to how this could have possibly been fixed and there is no possible way other than Gods prophets deliberately sent us this intentional message about Iraq and 9 - 11. Ross David www.eternaltruth.net
Bill, you might want to check to make sure that all users will be able to access content before endorsing it. I really appreciate the job that The Onion does in general, but they really botched their channel for providing their content. I'm not sure if it is some flavor of Windows-centric idiocy or what, but I really feel bad for the blind users out there whom can't even see the error message I'm getting....
Oh, and fix your captcha--I don't load images from 3rd party sites--they clog up my modem (I'm a rural user, like some 35% of the USA population).
Kinda funny, but was there no better use for the time on the program? Why was this aired while the Sibel Edmonds story is banished to "web exclusive" status where few will see it.
Sometimes humor cuts too close to reality and laughter becomes knowing and hollow. I am not going to cry, but I don't expect my vote to count for anything. The underlying message is that patriotic citizens have other obligations besides voting in times like these. The Tree of
Liberty may have to be watered through the liquidation of undeserved wealth and privilege, and from the blood of the obstinate. Populism is too contradictory and archaic a label for our Resistance.
Lately I have been concerned & confused about this nominating process, but the light bulb just lit. The candidates are selected by behind the scenes power brokers such as Howard "Mean" Dean--for real! Then the candidate is crowned in Iowa & New Hampshire. The big mix up this yr. was when the media figured out how much more money they could make if all the states were involved! Way to go media! Finally candidates are paraded before all the people.
Respectfully,
Billy Bob, Florida
Comments
The Moyers blog is a many layered onion in itself. A rigged election for President makes little difference when all three major candidates are so weak.
I was tickled by claims below that Bible texts predicted 9/11. If these profiteering prophets saw it in their studies why didn't they warn us by 9/10/2001?
Dick Cheney is no Bible scholar but I think he knew what was coming as far back as 1999, and how it would go down.
There's more rigging in our dilemma than that in our polls, my dears.
Posted by: Irene | April 8, 2008 12:28 PM
It's mind-boggling. We've had two stolen Presidential elections in a row. Not only were the results allowed to stand both times, but we have yet to take meaningful action to insure that future elections will be fair and aboveboard. The (supposed) oposition party pretends that nothing is seriously wrong. The mainstream media pretend that nothing is seriously wrong. Much of the public seems unaware that anything is serioiusly wrong.
Voting machines designed to be easily hacked from outside and easly rigged by insiders are one problem. Dirty tricks are another, such as making sure that districts domated by the preferred party get plenty of voting machinces, while districts domated by the other party get far too few.
Posted by: ellenjay | March 16, 2008 1:17 PM
Loved It,
Re:Vote Scam
Have the Collier Bros. been discredited? I first read this book in 1992 aftre listening to an interview with Larry King on late night radio. (I later asked Mr. King in another on air interview if there was anything that had been proven wrong in the book and he denied ever having heard of it or the Collier Brothers.)
Thanks so Much!
Posted by: Scott L. Sammons | March 8, 2008 3:36 AM
Charlatans use numerology and cryptic writings from the past to produce prophesy. Any book as thick and vague as the Bible could be used to predict or recap virtually any event. Try opening your unabridged dictionary at random if you want to predict the future. All millenialist (psychotic) Christians should carry a blessed Eightball (toy) to save turning them thar thin pages (onionskin?). "Ain't Jesus coming Tuesday?" Eigthball:
"Maybe." Hey,if you disagree with the Bible you could tear out them ol' bad pages, like Catholic Romans in the 3rd century.
Posted by: Jack Martin | March 6, 2008 1:01 PM
To ecdistributions 3-4-11:21 PM
Psalms 22 occurred way before Christ died on the cross, but some of his last words were in this verse. It has been suggested that He was teaching the Jewish scholars till the end , as they would have been familiar with Psalms.
Can you supply some verses & from what edition of the Bible they are taken, that will help me check out your distribution message?
Thanks.
Respectfully,
Billy Bob
Posted by: Billy Bob | March 5, 2008 8:34 AM
A new discovery about freedom in Iraq
The Iraqi people are hungry for democratic freedom and willing to die for it. Many Americans however are voting for the opposite contrast of freedom called socialism this year. Annalists are already predicting a huge sweep of leftists coming into both the U.S. house and senate on the coat tails of the white house this fall. These leftists openly consider christian patriots the enemy of their state even above the terrorists. These people are itching to pass the fairness doctrine to put an end to conservative talk radio. They are already targeting hate legislation aimed directly against all American patriots. They plan a massive overhaul of the judicial system to impose legislation against 1st and 2nd amendment rights.
McCain will make the Iraq war the central issue of this campaign because Obama promises to withdraw our troops regardless if the terrorists declare victory. Christians may have one last chance to grandstand against another Vietnam and the establishment of an anti christian socialistic state in America. But there is now a
new hope!
A new biblical discovery has just been released into the market bringing a miraculous prophecy about Iraq. There are a large number of biblical scriptures which have passed silently under the radar until now.
Iraq is to be freed by a great eagle wings in the latter day prophecy! This is welcome news coming straight from the Bible just before the election. Most Americans still believe in Bible prophecy above political persuasions.
If the war in Iraq represents Gods will actually predicted in Bible prophecy, this may be our chance to unify christians and patriots before this critical election takes place. Obama claims to be a good christian. Could he now become exposed publically for apposing "the great eagle" freeing Iraq in Bible prophecy?
A Salem christian group published an important press release concerning this true Biblical discovery! This stunning declaration comes from one of the most reputable christian publishers in America... www.eternaltruth.net
One critic asked the author how he could possibly announce a discovery about 9/11 and Iraq in Bible prophecy?
"Aren't you exploiting thousands of American deaths within this current war and 9/11 just to sell a book?"
Author.." "That is my greatest consulation! Many people including veterans are purchasing this book witnessing biblical references which prove my research has a foundation in true prophecy. People are witnessing biblical prophecies unfold before their eyes concerning Iraq being freed by modern eagle.
Amazon.com announces on their web sight they have sold out this book and are now ordering more!"
"There are no unsatisfied customers complaining of not receiving any thing less than promised from the author." "There are steady reports of people finding far more than what they ever expected possible.
It would be unforgivable for any author to promise something like this to exploit a national tragedy for book sales." Many lives have been lost including families with children having lost their parents. This author is not letting people down who purchase this book in good faith. We are delivering a true message taken from biblical prophets directed for our time. "I have four children of my own, if my book were to become exposed as a manipulation of biblical text such would forever mark my children's name as well as my own." I actually
found this message in which I am claiming.
I have been blessed to have discovered such a wonderful message deliberately placed into the Bible which
might unite believers together before this election. I need your help because the media ignores everything concerning this discovery. It is very hard to believe this yourself until you witness it first hand.
Author of this book,
Paul Gregersen
Listen now to an educated critic and his expert opinion regarding this miraclulous book.
"Reading this particular book has made me aware of how christians have come to accept biblical spin and less than honest interpretations when reading books on Bible prophecy." When I started reading "Bible prophecies of 9 - 11" the whole idea of 9 - 11 and Iraq being in Bible prophecy admittedly was quite appealing to me.
But it seemed very far fetched and I fully expected to discover another fiction story cleverly masked behind a another "new" biblical declaration. I fully expected to see the familiar hand picking of quotes deliberately coming from the authors’ selection of unrelated texts to manipulate the meaning of Bible text. I've learned that it is a common trick to cleverly combine unrelated verses from separated biblical context in order to stretch readers’ perception beyond the original focus toward the authors’ conclusions, creating the appearance that authors conclusions are also supported by the Bible.
My first surprise while reading this book was to see this author approach things quite differently by laying a biblical foundation from Adam and Eve with the tree of life story, establishing common threads for his entire biblical claim. As the first chapters began to build solidly on biblical themes I quickly realized this particular author was either seriously attempting to link legitimate patterns of bible prophecy, or he was using an even more clever deception to mislead me. This author surprisingly understood the procedure to outline proper types and shadows and stay within one context while linking proper biblical themes. Since the author was not spinning I suspected that he would postpone taking of his liberties until he would be forced into a corner having to demonstrate 9 - 11 towers falling and eagle's wings into modern Iraq.
To my surprise the transition was smooth and never broke context or prophetic flow. Not only was 9 - 11 coming straight from the Bible but almost every highly specific detail, including the number of planes that hit each target, was referenced in the Bible with numerous exact details specifically related to 9 - 11. This book does not just stop there, but continued to unwind the scenario of America going to Iraq spelling out the exact manner of Saddam’s capture and execution. This was a highly unusual book! This book was based on what was written in the Bible and relied solely upon that premise. How do I react to this other than try to convince someone to read it and find out? I feel concerned that christians are so used to being tricked by each cry of wolf that when the real thing appears there will be a little comprehension that something amazing has occurred. I have wracked my mind as to how this could have possibly been fixed and there is no possible way other than Gods prophets deliberately sent us this intentional message about Iraq and 9 - 11. Ross David www.eternaltruth.net
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Posted by: ecdistributions | March 4, 2008 11:21 PM
Bill, you might want to check to make sure that all users will be able to access content before endorsing it. I really appreciate the job that The Onion does in general, but they really botched their channel for providing their content. I'm not sure if it is some flavor of Windows-centric idiocy or what, but I really feel bad for the blind users out there whom can't even see the error message I'm getting....
Oh, and fix your captcha--I don't load images from 3rd party sites--they clog up my modem (I'm a rural user, like some 35% of the USA population).
Posted by: Non-windows user | March 3, 2008 10:31 PM
Kinda funny, but was there no better use for the time on the program? Why was this aired while the Sibel Edmonds story is banished to "web exclusive" status where few will see it.
What a waste.
Posted by: mike | March 2, 2008 2:37 PM
Sometimes humor cuts too close to reality and laughter becomes knowing and hollow. I am not going to cry, but I don't expect my vote to count for anything. The underlying message is that patriotic citizens have other obligations besides voting in times like these. The Tree of
Liberty may have to be watered through the liquidation of undeserved wealth and privilege, and from the blood of the obstinate. Populism is too contradictory and archaic a label for our Resistance.
Posted by: Grady Lee Howard | March 2, 2008 2:28 PM
Makes me want to cry! That's an onion for you.
Lately I have been concerned & confused about this nominating process, but the light bulb just lit. The candidates are selected by behind the scenes power brokers such as Howard "Mean" Dean--for real! Then the candidate is crowned in Iowa & New Hampshire. The big mix up this yr. was when the media figured out how much more money they could make if all the states were involved! Way to go media! Finally candidates are paraded before all the people.
Respectfully,
Billy Bob, Florida
Posted by: Billy Bob | March 1, 2008 11:40 AM
!!!!! The MSM deflects blame for ruining democracy onto ordinary "shadowy overlords".Shame!
Posted by: RobZalete | March 1, 2008 8:42 AM