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Rick Karr on Internet Surveillance

Congress is still deadlocked over the Bush Administration's efforts to listen in to phone calls and read emails without search warrants. The sticking point is whether or not to allow private citizens to sue telecom conglomerates, the huge firms that provide most of us with phone and internet service - and helped the Administration spy on us. Now, the Administration wants to try to spy on Americans in another way. My colleague Rick Karr has this to bring you up to speed.
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If McCain gets elected, he has already admitted he doesn't know how to use a computer. "Spying" on Second Life and WoW will be as effective as a border fence, or as meaningless as 3oz of liquids on carry on, it'll provide them with nothing substantial and be a colossal waste of tax payer funds.

Keep up the good work
keep looking deeper inot the rabbit hole. youll find nothing but ex hippies and the CIA funding the religion of no privacy and the VR world mediated future that all our children will be plugged into 24/7.-)

indies- ? well read any MMO TOS lately? you own nothing, they own all your efforts- all the work that they make money off of..

look deeper. fuedalism has never been so revived--and so seductive.

I "police" my mind anyway... walk around in there picking up all the detrius and cigarette butts. Cheney, Bush and Swartzeneggar are my avatars on really nasty interactive porn sites. Now their anuses are as big as culverts. Too bad it's virtual. (Help me, Echelon!)
Telecom demands before 9/11 with terrorism as leverage tells me someone knew what was coming and just couldn't wait, like peeking at hidden packages before Christmas. Anyway, the gift just keeps on giving... witness our new "food for gas" lifestyle.
It's the threat under totalitarianism that matters in that no one outside the elite inner circle can ever feel secure. You don't have to commit an offense or even think subversive thoughts, just be expendable. A good film to watch here would be "The Lives of Others."

Well, surprise, surprise- Americans have been asleep at the wheel. But we have woken up and it's time to take action. We need to descend en mass on Washington and kick out ALL politicians that do not act in the interest of the PEOPLE. Demand an end to political contributions from lobbyists and demand the impeachment of Bush & Cheney. Go to www.worldreports.org/news to see the cronological reporting by an investigative reporter from London of the world banking crisis perpetrated by Bush and gang. It's shocking that they could have gotten away with this for so long. The PEOPLE need to rise up and defend our rights & freedoms and get rid of these criminals running our government. McCain is NOT ahead by any means. He's a Bush puppet. They are going to try and manipulate the election again. Demand a paper trail.

"Wouldn't it be great if a group of people . . . ."

Who says that some of us are not already doing this?

Wouldn't it be great if a group of people (perhaps growing daily into the thousands) went down to the public library OnLine and created avitars of terrorists - and going to these sites, joining, and deliberately playing up the rolls Mr. Bush wants to find? Before long - he would want to shut down all the libraries as harbingers of terror. Things have to change around here - this country. Bush is eroding our fundamental rights, he's allowing and promoting big corporate windfalls - actually paying multi-billion dollar companies to grow larger. Watch what Bush becomes after his presidency - that will tell us all who he is really for. And I bet he isn't going back Texas to watch baseball!
Richard Lewis
NorthCentral Arkansas

Look at how the FBI monitored Mario Savio as if he were a Mafia don instead of a Catholic graduate student in philosophy. Surveillance is an odd business.

In the case of Mr. Savio, apparently just telling the truth was a sufficient threat to government. In a way, that reassures me.

All this country really needs to secure our homeland is for someone to watch the president. What game is he playing?

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MJA

I am not a "low information" voter. I've been following the Bush administration's assault on our Constitution, our privacy and our civil liberties very carefully. I knew that Qwest had refused to break the law and allow unfettered spying on American citizens. I DID NOT know, however, that they were asked to do this BEFORE 9/11. The technology of spying has become so sophisticated it is almost impossible to elude government intrusions into one's privacy when we are faced with a regime that is determined to break the law, stonewall investigators, lie and destroy evidence -- coupled with an opposition party that doesn't know the meaning of "oppose" and takes money from the same telcoms seeking immunity. The damage that Bush and his Flying Monkeys have inflicted on our country cannot be overestimated. I fear that we will never be able to undo what he has done. If the Dems cave on FISA and telcom immunity, the last chance to bring Bush's crimes to light with pre-trial discovery will die. The evidence and the testimony will be "disappeared" forever.

What? The Bush Administration asked for spying on Americans before 9/11... and then when 9/11 happened, used that as the excuse. Obviously, spying on Americans was a goal of the Bush Administration; it was not because Bush was trying to protect Americans from another 9/11. So, the question you have to ask yourself is, why does the Bush Administration want to spy on Americans--against our Constitution and our laws, to which the Administration is accountable? Why would spying on Americans be so important to the Bush Administration? Once again, this makes sense if you look at the bigger picture of corruption. Click on my name below for my description of the corruption, with evidence and independent media analysis.

The video really upsets me as a Human Being. The old"Well, if you aren't hiding anything, what are you afraid of?" Just doesn't wash here. They have seriously underestimated the Intelligence of Americans, and Instead, thrown all of our Civil Liberties into the Sewer!My Mom told me that the same style of BS was very prevalent in Nazi Germany!

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