LUCKY SEVERSON: The famous religious conversion stories are full of high drama: Saul's vision on the road to Damascus or Constantine's [vision of a] fiery cross in the sky. Modern-day religious conversions can seem tame by comparison, but tolerant attitudes toward faith-seeking have made them more common. Still, choosing a new religion is usually a major decision -- for converts and their families. In the first of a two-part series, our reporter, Stephen Dubner, himself a convert and author of the book TURBULENT SOULS, looks at the experience of John Curry, principal of a school for at-risk students in New York.
JOHN
CURRY: I grew up in St. Louis, in the Bible Belt. My
parents talked about religion constantly, they were in a
Methodist Church ... they considered themselves born again
and were very strict theologically.RUTHIE PADOWER: I experienced Judaism in two opposite ways. At home, it was this very pleasant, defining part of who we were and then we lived in a town that was not heterogeneous at all. It was purely Christian, and so, I grew up very uncomfortable with my Judaism in that setting.
STEPHEN DUBNER: You met in college. Was the fact that you came from different religions an issue?
MS. PADOWER: Once we started thinking about living together and maybe marrying and having children, it was an issue because I wanted to raise my children Jewish, and I didn't want to raise my children in a house where Christmas was celebrated.
CURRY: Ruthie, at one point, said, well you can have a Christmas tree if you need it to be in the house ... but it will be your Christmas tree and the children and I will just consider that daddy's, and I thought, I'm gonna be sitting in the corner with my little Christmas tree. It was just ridiculous, and then I thought, well I'm gonna be like a stranger in my own family, and I couldn't really see how to resolve it at the time.
DUBNER: Did you think at all back then about converting?
CURRY: I think I did in vague ways, but I couldn't really imagine it. Not that it was something I would hate to do, but I guess I felt that [by] even saying it, I was gonna feel like a wannabe for someone else's culture.
LEWIS RAMBO (Author, UNDERSTANDING RELIGIOUS CONVERSIONS): The experience of conversion, I think, at its deepest level, is a profound and pervasive reorientation of one's entire life. Starting in many cases with self image -- Who am I as a human being? -- to, Who is God? What is the nature of reality?
RABBI MAGGIE WENIG: I think it's as significant a decision as choosing a partner to spend many years of your life with or deciding to have a child.
DUBNER: We are probably in a country and at a time when conversion is at an all time high. Conversion is rampant. Is that good?
RABBI WENNIG: I would have to say yes. But I believe that human beings long for meaning, a relationship with God, community, and are feeling an emptiness.
DUBNER: Tell me about this Christmas season visit to your sister's house in Seattle.
CURRY: At this particular Christmas service, they took a baby out of the congregation and put it in the manger for a Christian ceremony.
MS.
PADOWER: And that night, I had a dream that I had a
child and that they took my baby out of my arms and used
him or her for their Jesus, and we couldn't get him back.CURRY: I'd always had this idea that somehow I wanted Christmas in my family's life because, somehow, that would bring happiness to my children. And I had this horrible experience: my mother, sister, and father not getting along; me feeling watched by my parents to see if I would go up to the altar and profess my faith in Christ; conflicts around our children. ... I felt like there was this whole ball of tension and things I didn't know how to resolve. I was lying in bed, and I thought, you know, if I converted to Judaism this would just go away. And I said to Ruthie, "Maybe I should convert," and she said "Why would you want to do that?" My fear was that she would say, "That's wonderful," and I would feel this responsibility to follow through, and instead, she just put the breaks on.


RABBI
WENNIG: In the past, a lot of people would talk about
conversion as being sudden and dramatic. I think the influence
of the conversion of Saul of Tarsus to ... Paul the Apostle
is paradigmatic, whether people ... know much of the Bible,
whether they're Christians or Jews or whatever. 