Was the Tim Russert interview/transcript edited?

Bill Moyers rocks. Long may he live and may he keep exposing the crooks for who they are. It's great that PBS carries both NOW, that Moyers started, and his current show. I appreciate having these alternatives on the air. To me, those programs speak more truth to power than the NewsHour.

I was motivated to write this partly in hopes that my posting will push the ignorant Nazi-like anti-Jewish racism of JDee's comment off this page.

BUYING THE WAR, by BILL MOYERS

The video Buying the War is worth watching because it exposes how corrupt the media is.

Bill Moyers was skating on thin ice when he produced Buying the War. I think PBS is the only media network that has been willing to air this video.

Buying the War documents how the corporations that own the major Media networks acted in collusion with WE the government of the USA, in order to trick WE the people of the USA into supporting the invasion of Iraq after the 911 atrocity.

Buying the War begins with Bush admitting to the entire press corps that the press conference was scripted and staged. The reporters laughed but continued to pretend that the press conference was the real thing anyway. Everyone present knew that everyone in the room was part of a farce, and that the purpose of the entire press conference was to fool the American public, so that it would support the invasion of Iraq.

Buying the War failed to mention that WE the US government invaded Iraq because both WE the US government and our media are in the hands of Jews. If Buying the War had revealed THIS unpleasantry, Moyers' career would have been ruined forever of course. Not even PBS would have aired his documentary. Moyers would have had to get on his knees and beg forgiveness like Trent Lott did, not that any Jew would have ever forgiven him. Moyers' skillfully avoided this pitfall by blaming the government for manipulating the owners of the media, instead of the other way round. Moyers is a Texan who is good at playing chicken and swerving just in time. Congratulations, Bill, even if you are a liberal.

Because of this perilous subject (the credibility of the mainstream media), Moyers had difficulty finding insiders who were willing to be interviewed for this Buying the War documentary.

Those whom Moyers did interview were so good that they barely cracked a liar's smile as they went along with Moyers' deceptive coverup. I admired their acting skills and ability to look each other in the face knowingly without outright laughing at each other.

Dan Rather has over 25 years experience as a reporter, so was able to go along with Moyers' ruse perfectly. Reckless Rather skated about as breathtakingly close to the truth (that Jews own most of the media) as any reporter could, without being edited out of the video.

Dan Rather might still be mad at his former Jewish bosses, but knows that if he mentioned that they are Jews, he might be committed to an insane asylum and never heard from again. Rather is a good Texas boy, but has not forgotten being beaten to a pulp by mystery men.

Buying the War is a convincing cover up of the role Jews played in engineering the invasion of Iraq. It makes both Bill Moyers and PBS look like daring heroes who exposed the bad guys, although they actually did the opposite. If you want to know who your real masters are, then ask who it is that cannot be criticized.

Both Moyers and PBS are in the pockets of Jews, and push the agenda of the Jews, just like most of the rest of the media, of course.

As much as I enjoy watching Nova, Nature, Frontline and scientific and historical programs, I do not donate to PBS because I do not want to fund its hate inciting and racist anti-White Black History Month and Holocau$t propaganda.

I suspect that professional propagandists admire Buying the War for its skillful propaganda, since few Americans will ever see through Moyers' subterfuge.

Information about Buying the War is at http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/btw/watch.html

The transcript of Buying the War can be read at http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/btw/transcript1.html

The video (and audio for dial-up access) of Buying the War can be seen at http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/vi...id_btw1-1.html

If you want to watch Buying the War on your TV, I think it will be aired several more times during PBS' March, 2008 fund raising campaign.

Democracy Now of Feb. 29th(archive available) in a interview with Nobel Laureate Joseph Stiglitz and Harvard economist Linda Bilmes reports that the actual costs of the occupation of Iraq have now topped THREE TRILLION DOLLARS with about 4,000 U.S. personnel killed and at least 60,000 permanently injured (excluding residual PTSD cases).
Due to these facts I'm not too worried about Prince Harry Snowden (nee Hewitt) who is a billion-heir and will not be affected by our taxation slavery. People who go to war must accept the likely prospects, as do those of us who exercise our rights via civil disobedience. Armed Forces personnel, before you return to combat in these criminal actions please consider conscientious objection or sanctuary outside our country until we depose the fascists. Thank you

John Prine wrote 35 years ago "A flag decal won't get you into heaven anymore" but in 2002 if you didn't wave hard enough, you were voted from office, ostracized as soft on terrorism, and agin' us. There were visionaries protesting, but alas they were and are marginalized and many remain outside mainstream media.

Keep Bill Moyers on the air no matter what else is on PBS, even if he's all that's left. He is the only truth-in-news we can absolutely count on in my country, anymore. I say mine because I am a Vet. Especially, thank you Mr. Moyers for "Buying the War"!
CounselorDave

From the NY Times:

Q. 2. The Democrats seem intent on pushing into the history of how we went to war and some want to prove "He lied and people died." Will the history support that or some more complicated plot where Hussein actually fooled our intelligence services with a clever deception program? Should the Democrats be careful? - gmasters

A. This is the other half of the WMD fiasco: much of the world, including congressional Democrats, European intelligence services, and United Nations agencies, believed that Saddam had some WMDs -- at least, chemical weapons stockpiles and a biological program. This was far less than the administration was claiming before the war; there's a world of difference between chemical stockpiles and a nuclear program capable of producing a bomb within a year or two. But it was grounds for some worry. According to the report of Charles Duelfer and the Iraq Survey Group, Saddam himself created the illusion that he had some capabilities in order to keep his old enemy Iran at bay; in the madhouse logic of his last years, he was lying to his generals and being lied to by his scientists. He played cat and mouse with the inspectors when they return in late 2002. In this and other ways, Saddam brought about his own downfall. As for the Democrats, some of them also have themselves to blame because they failed to look closely at the caveats buried in the October 2002 National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq. At the same time, they had less access to intelligence than the President and his top officials.

msussman - 1:38 PM ET November 25, 2005 (#119 of 130)
Mick Sussman, Books Producer, The New York Times on the Web

saw the report and admire its earnest workmanlike approach. I now know that the administration did make mistakes. Though I am still confused about weapons of mass destruction. Has we not gone to war and had we relaxed the sanctions, could they have recreated the weapons they once had? I think so.

But this could have been done to Roosevelt after WWII and some here have said so. This report misses one important question: Was Iraq a danger? If it was, and if it was "unfinished business" with UN resolutions to enforce, did we pick the best of several bad paths? How can we know that not doing anything would have had better results? And, now we are in a difficult situation will quitting be the best way out?

Thank you for this careful, detailed, and bone-chilling report on the march to war. The story reveals a particularly black and incestuous cabal between the media, including the so-called establishment press, the cable news programs, the Adminstration, and many Democrats (not just Republicans) in the Congress. The result is the worst foreign policy disaster in American history. The tragedy is that noone is being held accountable. Leading Democrats including Hillary Clinton and John Kerry have really dirty hands, Quislings that they are, they obviously traded integrity and a duty to question the Administration's motives for political expediency. The story explains why the Democrats have not moved to impeach George Bush and Dick Cheney. If leading the nation to war under false pretenses doesn't constitute abuse of power (high crimes and misdeamnors), I don't know what does.

Keep up the good work.

Why did Bush want to go to war in Iraq?

While one can only agree with the facts shared in "Buying the War", which I have just seen on rebroadcast, the program failed to mention that it was not just the conglomerate owned media that let the country down, but PBS itself in 2002/2003 was also heavily favoring the administrations position. After watching every program of Charlie Rose for years, I stopped watching in disgust as he only gave token audience to opponents of the invasion. So while the main media certainly has blood on their hands, lets not forget that the hands of PBS journalists are also sullied.

I will admit, as a thinking American, as soon as the White House began talking about invading Iraq I questioned why. By avoiding US common media I did not get "sucked" into the hype Bush was pushing. I, too, feel that it was pushed by corporate greed for Iraq's oil - just look at who supported it the most and their corporate ties. I always wondered why the US media toed the Bush line while the rest of the world knew the truth. Pity the countries that Bush dragged into his personal vendetta and pursuant of shared corporate wealth. Now I understand perfectly why, everytime Nixon was on the air my mother turned it off. I too cannot stand to hear any more lies out of Bush's mouth. Kudo's to the reporters who tried to tell the truth despite a hurricane of brown nosing reporters. Now I not only have no faith in my government - but none in media. A real true American always questions when they are being asked to die or send loved ones to die for their country. My heart goes out in compassion for all the wasted lives caused by this.

007 9 30
“In the Democratic Presidential debate none of them would commit to taking American troops out of
Iraq in the first terms of their administration, if they should win. That would mean American troops in Iraq
until at least 2013”. In a bushels of rotten apples which one would you pick?
To stop the autocratic “arrogant elitist ruling class” regime is to “AMEND the constitution”, for
ALL the issues should be and MUST be placed on the ballot, in the hands of “the people to express their will ”!
The Congress, Senate , states and others no longer represent “the majority people and their will”.
Laws legislated by the congress, states and local government, funds earmark for wars, bridges to nowhere,
social, economic, and educations development shall and MUST be placed on the ballot for “the people to
express their will”.
To “stop the war or military expansion” it should be in “the will of the people”. To the extend
possible - Expend the “EMPIRE” by SOCIAL, ECONOMIC and FINANCIAL AID”.
Chris

Let's ask, WHAT IS GOING ON HERE? Okay? It will go much farther than "why". And to rephrase the last post to WHAT'S GOING ON? WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON? for the question "why" has been impossible to answer by anyone.

A JOURNALIST WOULD DO WELL TO ASK: WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?

And can bet the answers will not come from any journalist with access to the White House. Curious--the much touted fear of a journalist not having access! (The real stories are to be found in the mid level people, says Tim Russet)

And the Knight Ridder guys are like Hoffman and Redford.

Better to in fear of reporting lies. A journalist lies, people die.

It's sad.

Sympathies to the reporters who may feel responsible for this war. But isn't war is a racket, a game? It's been going on thousands of years.

Well, one can make up for it. Ask WHAT IS GOING ON?

And WRITE POETRY! See the Robert Bly webcast with Bill Moyers. Read Kabir! Rilke! Rumi! Life is too short to live in a lie without knowing it.

Peace y'all
(Thank you)

Good show, but it does not ask ask why the USA went into Iraq? And why hasn't any reporter, to date, answered this question? Here is another chance for journalists to save face.

Most ALL informed citizens know the questions: Is it a corporate motivated war? Is it personal power? Is it privatization of Iraq? Is it oil? Did it turn out to be bad business?

The evidence was cooked, this is clear. What was the motivation then, and the motivation now for continuing the war?

JOURNALISTS! GET BUSY!

IS ANYONE ON THIS QUESTION?

Finding out WHY may possibly give the clue to the appropriate resolution of this dreadful conflict. And at least, provide some badly needed honesty...beyond the bull.

(Thank you)

DLH's posting on 08/28/07 raises interesting questions. To build on his thoughts, I believe we, as the collective citizenry, would be wise to explore in broad terms, the underlying push toward war in the wake of 911. As a possibility, might it be that we are all responsible in some sense, by needing & wanting a scapegoat to exact our rage and powerlessness on that fateful day of national trauma? Certainly, Saddam Hussein provided a welcome target, given his bravado in attempting to frustrate the United States over many years.

Why did we fight this war? I imagine there are multiple layers; involving preserving the flow of oil, fanatical thinking on the part of neoconservatives, establishing military bases in Iraq, among other questionable goals. However, what concerns me most is what this war informs us of our national psyche, then and now. Do we have the capacity and the will to fully accept responsibility for what we have sown?

I would welcome an exploration on Bill Moyer's Journal, including a wide variety of commentators from different walks of life and experience.

The "reason" bush invaded Iraq has to do with him taking orders from his illumanotti masters. They own both the republican & democratic parties. That's why nothing ever gets done.

The theme of "Buying the War" seems to be how most of the country was largely "bamboozled" into supporting the Bush administration's agenda for the war in Iraq. The media, including the New York Times, Frontline and Oprah, was convinced into not only going along with it, but into actually playing cheerleader for that same agenda. The exceptions mentioned in the piece were some folks at Knight-Ridder (reporters Jonathan Landay and Warren Strobel) and Ted Kennedy, both of whom were virtually ignored, despite convincing arguments disputing the claims of the administration. All of this is good stuff to bring up.

But some of the reporting in "Buying the War" doesn't go quite far enough. The question remains, if the issue of WMDs and a link between Al-Qaeda and Iraq was knowingly false from the beginning, as to why the Bush administration invaded Iraq in the first place. Moyers doesn't ask that question, nor has the media explored this issue in a serious way. Further, one has to question why the media adopted the posture of support for the government that it did. Why did it not play its proper role, reporting the facts and pointing out when the facts don't make sense? We hear pundits say that they are allowed to say whatever they wanted, that no one compels them to say something or to hold back, but I find no convincing explanation in any of their remarks. It makes me wonder if these people are being disingenuous, or if they simply fail to understand their own motives. We hear tantalizingly of how Donahue's producers were ordered to produce two conservative commentators for every liberal one, but we don't hear who ordered it, nor do we hear about the author of the famous menu.

Perhaps most importantly, we don't hear the question addressed of whether or not this was really an aberration on the part of the media. Was it a structural flaw? What institutional pressures are operating on the industry, and where do these pressures originate? I see nothing to reassure me that this kind of reporting will not happen again; indeed, it could be happening now. Are reporters and editors, excepting a few mavericks, simply following to a set way to do their jobs, and responding to the influence of a kind of "corporate culture?" How does this culture and its mores influence accuracy in reporting (as evidently it does)? Does the press have a structural role in supporting the foundations of the elite institutions of society, even as it challenges them on the surface? Are most media participants largely ignorant of the context and nature of their distorted stories, much as some members of the administration seem to be? Do they continue to dispense further propaganda, perhaps some of them unknowingly? Is nothing really off limits in reporting? What are the controls, the influences, the institutional stresses? It seems obvious that they exist.

I heard no satisfactory answers to these questions. "Buying the War" should be only the first page of an investigative journal on the 4th estate and the government.

Based on Jonathan Landay's & Warren Strobel's contacts with intelligence officials, the known public evidence, and their experience, I am interested in their assessment of what we knew or should have known about the existance of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, or lack there-of, in the final month/weeks leading up to the war. As a follow-up, why, in their opinion, did the political opposition, the Democratic Party, fail to educate thenseleves and/or confront the Administration's case for war?

Thank you Bill Moyers for providing a platform for researching the inside story of this tremendous tragedy.

Great program! Thanks for the outstanding report. The fact of having this kind of report is the reason why I have such respect for American constitution. After living in 3 countries and spending the last 10 years in the US, I truly come to love this great nation, the more I learn about it. One thing I admire most of this country is people's relentless drive and ability to resolve problems when we see it. I hope we continue to find the truth and solution to this problem we have because this is what's important for our future. God bless America.

When are we going to quit worrying about what the rest of the world thinks considering the UN wanted Saddam in power so they can make money off him? The UN is the most corrupt organization ever and no one seeems to care about the Oil For Food scandal, which happens to be probably the biggest scandal ever. Entire countries keeping a dictator in power to make money and get oil while knowingly letting Iraqis starve and die from easily curable diseases. What's your excuse for that for the world? And please stop with this media friendly Bush conspiracy. It's stupid. Anyone who believes the media was behind Bush in anything doesn't think with a head void of toxins. We took down a dictator who was committing atrocity after atrocity. Anyone who thinks we're doing the same should just move out of the country and be with the rest of the world. Go to your Utopia.

Thanks for again airing The Bill Moyers Journal film "The Buying of the War." I was able to send the people on my e-mail list the PBS link that will allow them to view this excellent report. I personally find it very stressful to know that our Government and the US press are such a bad examples for the rest of the World. This has left a "bad taste" in my mouth and we should all be ashamed of our leadership (all branches)for the path they have lead us down. I don't know what we can do to regain the respect of the rest of the World, but I do know that we need to apology and pay for all of the distruction and death we have caused because of our own ignorance. We have to be a better role model in this world of ours.

My wife and I are average people. Most of our time is consumed by work in order to keep our home and cars paid for and maintained. We've spent our lives raising children and getting by. In know way are we as educated as the politicians that have been hired to work for us but we knew from September 11th that it didn't make sense to spend the resources and time to go after Sadaam. My mother mother in law with her tenth grade education could see throuh the insanity enough to wonder why the citizens of the United States were allowing the media present such a one sided view.It seems that the the American people have been more than happy to hear about enemies such as Sadaam, Brittany Speares and Paris Hilton.

Just to add to John Bain's remarks (August 10, 2007 12:48), Saddam's WMD were disproved long before Bush cherry picked the intelligence. The 36 lies that led to war: http://traprockpeace.org/ios030711.html

But Saddam was going to nuke us - IMMEDIATELY!! That is why we could not wait. We could not finish the war in Afghanistan!! We could not devote our resources to killing bin Laden! NO!! The smoking gun was going to become a mushroom cloud! NOW! Not later - NOW!! He had drones ready to attack us from the ocean!!
Oh BROTHER!! What a crock. And all bought and paid for by the marketing of the administration.
Now we are arming Saudi Arabia when most of those who attacked us on 9/11 were Saudis!
Rice says it is because the region has become unstable because of increasing Iran influence. She LEAVES OUT THAT THE INVASION OF IRAQ AND HOW IT WAS HANDLED AFTERWARD IS THE REASON FOR THE INCREASED INSTABILITY!
So they will arm the Saudis to stabilize what they destabilized? Pretty dumb...

What I can't believe is how everyone fell for all of this to begin with. I mean we already fell for the Nazi "war machine" we helped create with the help of the jews. We armed Hitler just so we would have an excuse to create an atomic bomb, again with the help of jews. We fell for it during WWI, too. We killed the archduke Ferdinand by not getting involved in European affairs. We sank the Lusitania by standing still. But our history books lie to our kids and provide a great tool of ill-education. Just read at www.threeworldwars.com. The evidence is all there man. Just because I smoke a lot of herb and take peyote like in a daily ritual it makes me more keen on these things than the sheep that is America. The real enemy is the right-wing christian fanatics who want to kill everyone and make their own fascist christian state called the United Christians of America. The jews are already helping them out. Just because they don't believe in the same exact religion, they are brothers in arms. I really hope us dopers along with Hollywood decides to stand up before it's too late. The jews are coming, just like how they told us the commies were coming (I do want communism by the way). Oh, the reason why we went into Vietnam isn't because we wanted to keep them from turning into a communistic state, but we wanted to turn in into the first christian fascist state with Pat Robertson as it's dictator. This stuff is all true, man. Freedom rock!
I am having a meeting in San Fran (where else) on the corner of Haight-Ashbury. Anyone interested in joining, plan a trip for Jan 1st, 2008. We will take this country which is rightfully ours and clean any remnant of judaism or christianity from this land. Who's with me?

What I can't believe is how everyone fell for all of this to begin with. I mean we already fell for the Nazi "war machine" we helped create with the help of the jews. We armed Hitler just so we would have an excuse to create an atomic bomb, again with the help of jews. We fell for it during WWI, too. We killed the archduke Ferdinand by not getting involved in European affairs. We sank the Lusitania by standing still. But our history books lie to our kids and provide a great tool of ill-education. Just read at www.threeworldwars.com. The evidence is all there man. Just because I smoke a lot of herb and take peyote like in a daily ritual it makes me more keen on these things than the sheep that is America. The real enemy is the right-wing christian fanatics who want to kill everyone and make their own fascist christian state called the United Christians of America. The jews are already helping them out. Just because they don't believe in the same exact religion, they are brothers in arms. I really hope us dopers along with Hollywood decides to stand up before it's too late. The jews are coming, just like how they told us the commies were coming (I do want communism by the way). Oh, the reason why we went into Vietnam isn't because we wanted to keep them from turning into a communistic state, but we wanted to turn in into the first christian fascist state with Pat Robertson as it's dictator. This stuff is all true, man. Freedom rock!
I am having a meeting in San Fran (where else) on the corner of Haight-Ashbury. Anyone interested in joining, plan a trip for Jan 1st, 2008. We will take this country which is rightfully ours and clean any remnant of judaism or christianity from this land. Who's with me?

Journalists may have been
largely remiss with regard to administration propaganda on the war, but some consumers of the "news" were not fooled. Here is a letter
to the editor I published four years ago:

Apologize and leave

America’s justifications for meddling in Iraq have included Iraq’s
invasion of Kuwait (historically a part of Iraq), Iraq’s certain possession
of weapons of mass destruction, the need to win Iraqi freedom and,
most recently, the putative concentration of terrorists in Iraq, this
representing an opportunity to eliminate international terrorism once
and for all on Iraqi, rather than on American, soil.

Do we know—other than via President Bush and his advisors—that
Islamist terrorists are in fact concentrated in Iraq? Wouldn’t common
sense require that this be corroborated by experts with no political ax to
grind?

Enough. The administration would do well to beat its breast and offer a mea culpa to Iraq and to the world. The occupying forces are morally obligated to help pick up the pieces resulting from Iraq’s so-called liberation. They should then leave and mind their own business.

– Ferdinand Gajewski,Ph.D.,
Westfield
(Letter to the editor, the [Newark, NJ] Star Ledger, November 5, 2003.)

I hate BUSH!!! I really don't, just seeing if this one would get through. Bet it does.

Like I said, KOO-KOO

Like I said, KOO-KOO

The fascinating thing about this report was how effective the packaging and marketing of this was done. If there is a significant percentage of people that still believe the "control freak" dictator would partner up with elements that could destabilize his own grip on his country, that is testament to how well it was marketed to the public. It was sole as an IMMINENT AND IMMEDIATE THREAT - so much so that inspections could not be allowed to finish. This was the "tipping-point" argument that forced the "Now, not later" into the equation.

It also shows what happens when you let the Nixon Administration back into power. All the agents from previous administrations will always be lurking in the background to return, so be mindful of that when voting.
The news media decries that they lose viewer-ship, and yet they provide nothing of worth to watch, and anchor it with "news-readers", not hardened journalists. We will let them spiral into an oblivion of accountant red-ink.
Thanks for a critical look at how the media works.
Now if they can just keep breaking the middle class and dumbing down the education system, they can stifle future critics.

I'm a conservative who opposed the invasion of Iraq from the beginning. Years ago in grad school I studied Islam and learned all about the differences between Shia and Sunni. Unfortunately none of our decision makers seemed to know about these differences. The whole process was driven by ignorance and fear. One of the most interesting aspects of the Moyers report was how what is normally regarded as liberal media---the New York Times, Vanity Fair, CBS News, the New Yorker---went along with all the propaganda and rationalizations for the invasion. It's further evidence of how the majority in our society, both of Left and Right, lost their heads in the wake of 9/11.

The reason for my repost is I was attempting to bring some balance. Now it's three against two thousand.

Funny you didn't put up my post so I will write it again with the best of my memory. Weird that among the hundreds of posts that there are only a couple that attempt to dispute Moyers' reporting.
This was yet another Moyers hit piece that only put up facts that he liked and put up none of the facts that he didn't like. Where was Moyers' accusation that Clinton, Putin, Chirac, and many other people who aren't in Bush's pocket said that there were WMD's? Am I supposed to believe that the media was Bush's right hand man? Are you kidding me? What are you smoking? I know you can get left wingers to believe this because they just eat these conspiracies up, but give me a break. Media being Bush friendly, that's a punchline without the joke.
Moyers brought up about how Powell was trustworthy BEFORE his presentation to the UN, but there was very little as to what he presented. I wonder why that was. There was NOTHING about the audio tape US intelligence got with a conversation between an Iraqi general and colonel where they were talking about "cleaning up" things and hiding before the UN inspectors showed up the next day. Where was that? What were they hiding or cleaning? Where was this report? Moyers can't dispute this so therefore he didn't put it in his report, that's why. It also shows the Iraqis were being tipped off on UN inspections since they were supposed to be surprise and unfettered inspections. Explain that one to me.
Why was there no reporting about our IMBEDDED reporters entering an abandoned Iraqi army barracks stockpiled with chemical/biological suits, masks, and cyringes. Did they think we were gonna use chemical/biological weapons on them? I know the left wingers might say "yeah exactly", but please, anyone with a clear head knows why they had them.
Where was the report from the Battle of Baghdad where there were reports of traces of mustard and sarin gas found in the Tigris River? Hmm? Perhaps the Tigris makes those naturally.
What about the +500 canisters of mustard gas we have collected. I know they say they weren't weapons grade anymore, but I don't recall anyone volunteering on having the contents poured onto their hands.
Reading from most of these posts it's easy to see who this story was aimed at... left wing nuts. You can dismiss me by thinking I'm a republican or a Bush man, which I am neither. I vote right down the middle. Truth is this report only showed what Moyers wanted to show, which is typically his style. Even the PBS president has said PBS has been biased in the past. When you present facts only that help the reporter's feelings, but don't report on facts that contradict the reporter's feelings, that's called BIAS. No wonder the old guard of the media is failing. Americans have smartened up to their bias and have gone elsewhere.
Having Dan Rather on was the icing of the left-wing cake. This is the same guy who put up false documents about Bush fifty days before the '04 election because he felt the story itself was true. Great journalism. This is the same guy who when reporting that former Clinton Security Adviser Sandy Berger was caught stuffing the highest of classified documents down his pants and socks pertaining to Bin Laden just before the 9/11 commission made the story more about the timing of the release of the story. He's a complete joke.
I bet Moyers' next piece will be about the 9/11 conspiracy that will have such hardened Bush supporters as Martin Sheen, Charlie Sheen, Rosie O'Donnell, and Thierry Meyssan. I'm sure Dan Rather will give his helping hand as well. From all the left wing nuts I've seen post on here, people are just dying for that report too.
The left wing loons are almost exactly like the KKK (which I was referring to in my 2nd post about preameriKKKan, but humorously didn't post my first writing). Think about it. They huddle within their own masses. They think "the government" is after them. They blame the US government and jews for everything. Everything is a conspiracy. Heck, they're one in the same. Only difference is instead of talking about blacks, homosexuals, and jews, the left wingers talk about "republicans", "Foxnews", and well.... jews.
I really think the left wing nuts wake up each morning and just can't wait to gather together with friends and talk about Bush, Foxnews, and republicans because I've seen it done. No wonder why the very day after 9/11 people were already protesting a war. Instead of calling up friends and consoling eachother, the left wing loons were planning protests. "This is just like back in the 60's maaaaan."
Dismiss me all you want, but I'm not the one who thinks everything is a conspiracy or that the media loves Bush. That takes some special herb to make someone think that's correct.
Moyers had his run when his reporting went unopposed and not scrutinized, but that time is over. Reporting half the story is in Moyers' DNA.
One more question... if Bush is such an idiot as most left wingers claim he is, then how did he supposedly "fool" you into believing him in his case for war?

Thank you very much for your show. Other media outlets should be ashamed to call them journalists. Any high school newspaper reporter could have done a better job. Your show Mr. Moyers highlights the need for Broadcasters using the "Public" Airwaves represent the Public interest and they should not be receiving license renewals when they do not represent the public interest. The FCC and the Citizens of America do not appreciate this bias in the media and we now see the result of this. Enforce the Constitution's First Ammendment for Free Speech and the Constitution in its full language. Do you think what happened to Phil Donahue and Rosie is based upon similar reasons?

I feel ashamed to say I was duped as well. What should the American people do? Where do we go from here? I've never believed everything I hear on the news, but how are people who are not reporters suppose to sift through the trash that is the media and this administration?

Dear Mr. Moyers,

I thank you for your piece on the failings of the media.

I have lived in mainland China for more than four years, and am quite used to the Chinese Communist Party's "He said she said" brand of journalism. Every night the news is "Hu Jintao said..." 'Wen Jiabao said..." etc and then they call that a news broadcast.

Needless to say, every time I return home from China, I am appalled anew that the Washington Post and New York Times, among others who find it suitable to criticize the lack of freedoms in China, participate in this very same form of lazy and subservient journalism that is, in fact, best described as government propaganda.

The again, I am sure if we looked closely at the Post and the Times critiques of China's journalistic practices, we just might find that it is yet another "he said she said piece."

Keep up the pressure,

Best,

Eric M.

How can we start to get more accurate information when it comes to reports in the mainstream media for the actual numbers of people protesting the current administration and this ill fated war that was started on total lies and deception?
Todays headlines read
"Several hundred gather to protest Bush"
About 600 protesters gathered at a demonstration outside a college campus while President George W. Bush gave the commencement speech at the school Saturday afternoon.
http://www.jacksonville.com/apnews/stories/042807/D8OPTBJ04.shtml
I can only assume that this probably means that thousands gathered to protest.
Why?
Well the media has done an excellent job of collaborating with the Bush regime and keeping these facts out of the public spotlight.
On January, 27,07 the Mall in DC was overflowing with war protesters and there was almost no coverage in the mainstream media... no visually effective photos from the air (please no excuses for this atrocity...look at the coverage of the average celebrity wedding.)and the media continued to report tens of thousands, when in reality it was closer to one million.
When I flew out of DC that night and saw a measly clip on CNN in the airport, only showing a small handful of people,with tears in my eyes and pain in my heart, I took solace in knowing that on Monday, I could get an accurate report on Democracy Now.
Sadly the average person is not aware of Democracy Now, or who Amy Goodman is.
It also is apparent that our mainstream media here has little problem reporting and showing foreign rallies and protests when they benefit our war mongering administration.
The PEOPLE can not demand to know what they are not even aware of.
I heard again and again on that day in Jan,07 "I thought I was the only one who felt this damn angry about this administration, and this war."
Our media also failed to report that there was another overwhelming demand roaring through the crowds that day...
Lets' Impeach the President!!!

I have read comments here at random, and Don't think I can add anything but I am glad you're back, and thanks for an eye opening and enlightening report. What ever happened to syndication and exchange agreements?

Mr. Moyers,

Welcome back; I have always admired your penchance for non-truncated facts that yield a fair and balanced view towards a truth. I have appreciated your lucid commentaries throughout the years. You seem to always enable the opportunity for citizens to gain a view outside a pre-determined box that is ordinarily established by mainstream VOX POX entertainment - so called 'news'.

Thanks also to Mr. Landay and Mr. Strobel for persistence to the truth and the former Knight Ridder Company that supported their investigative tracking.

Mr. Moyers, I am resubmitting this because there is a possiblity that my former statement was not published because something I said may not have been clearly defined, I was aiming for brevity. I will state it again: My thoughts are that you should do a documentary on Sophistry, tying back into Protagorus and Gorgias in Plato. It would be an excellent supplementary to your great work in 'Buying the War' and give some of the public a clear view on how the 'selling out' of the mainstream journalism can happen.

I look forward to your continued commentaries. Thank-you for being here in this world, you are a gift.

Thank you Mr. Moyers, for this enlightening program with Landay and Strobel.

I also want to thank Thomas L, who posted above with a link to the post-gulf war "oral history" interview with Cheney, that showed he must have known what would happen in Iraq if we invaded. He thought the risk was too high in 91. Did Chaney change? Something did.

It seems very clear now that this was, as T. Kennedy said, "cooked up in Texas" before the election, and was not a response to 9-11. Yet, the cooks knew what they were doing--they knew what would likely happen.

The question on my mind now is "why did they do it anyway?" Can we get to the point where we can say more than just, "oil?" What happened in the 90's that made the terrible consequences in Iraq an acceptable price?

It has to be something about the security of the Kuwait operations. All I can say is that I want to know what this is about--what's going on here? Cheney had to be thinking, "chaos is better than. . ." Well, better than what?

One of the K-R reporters asked what was behind the need to sell the war?

The answer is the existence of a unitary, read "imperial," presidency. No one, not even George Tenet - longtime Director of the CIA, could tell the President something that Tenet felt the President would not want to hear.

This isn't the first time a civil servant shirked their duty by not speaking truth. But it may be the time when the consequences were the most dire.

That the American public and its media institutions fell under the spell of advertising witchcraft should make every patriot stand up and head out the door with pitchforks and broomsticks.

Great thanks to you all; Landay, Strobel, and Moyers ---- let's see if the American people now start developing a real appetite for the truth, now that you guys have given them a taste?

The most amazing and audacious thing about this 2008 presidential campaign is the mainstream media’s assumption that the vast majority of the average, humane, ‘working class’ Americans will actually listen to their pompous BS about who we should be excited about among the field of pro-corporate, pro-war, and pro-imperialist candidates that the ruling-class Empire behind this façade of “Vichy America” has thrown against the wall for us to waste our votes on once again.

After seeing the Bill Moyers’ special on “Buying the War”, and seeing this exact same gaggle of pompous and arrogant MSM shills lying us into the disastrous imperial oil-war in Iraq, do they really think that we would trust this pack of media shills and airheads to now be telling us who the best and approved candidates are for continuing to run the deadly ruling-elite scam that our government has become?

Hell, does everyone think we are as stupid as Charlie Brown waiting for Lucy to pull away the football for the umpteenth time? After seeing Moyers' expose on the ruling class Empire's lies and the fawning media parroting of their lies that led to massive financial and person deaths in their imperial Iraq oil-war, do they think we are stupid enough to be listening to the exact same media idiots and pimps about who we should be excited about in the 2008 presidential campaign 'show'?

If the mainstream media was either so stupid and naïve, or (more likely) so complicitous and shilling that they blew smoke up our collective ‘working class’ arses, as Moyers so compelling demonstrated, then why the hell would we ever believe these exact same MSM bastards again? And why on earth would we be listening to them about something as important as the last semi-democratic presidential vote that we may ever have?

The vast majority of the average, humane, and real 'working class' in what's left of our country are finally starting to realize that they have been hosed and screwed by the ruling class Empire and its pompous, sycophant media whores. Average Americans now are beginning to know that the only thing this arrogant elitist "ruling class" Empire is ever going to do is to pervert and 'game' the political system, the economic system, and the media system to screw the majority. Hell, that's the friggin raison d'tat of ruling class Empires --- always has been, and always will be (if we don't stop them).

I cannot tell you how grateful I am to you, Bill Moyers, the Knight-Ridder reporters and their bosses for being authentic reporters, eschewing the "news entertainment" venue for probing for the facts. Whatever happened to going beyond the Who? the What? and the Where? to the When? the Why? and the How???

I, as many previous bloggers have reported, have lost friends in passionately demanding answers before supporting a war that could take my son or his friends' lives. I could not get them to understand that I cried every single morning over each death as it was reported. I can barely stand to see their faces, their names, their ages as they scroll down my tv screen. It is simply unbelievable to me that any American can see this as necessary and just. I have never been so ashamed of being an American, seen as so cold-heartedly willing to sacrifice our young men and women without asking the appropriate caretaking questions that were our duty to ask. We, the American people, are to blame for this war.

I had that problem as well, Jon Roberts. They didn't put my first post up either and I didn't break any rules. I also pointed out how funny it is that among the hundreds of posts on here, only a couple were critical of Moyers. Perhaps this post is supposed to be in the same fashion as Moyers' reporting... only showing what they like and dismissing everything they don't.

I sent in a long response critical of Democrat operative Bill Moyers's revisionist history of the pre-war debate and you guys won't put it up. Just supposed to be one long hallelujah chorus I guess. Change the Post a Comment section title to "If you want to say something good about Moyers". If you want to be critical of him, without profanity, there is a .1% chance your post might make it in. Thanks for keeping independent.

Bob is right about the anti-semitism. I did point out that anti-semitism, while it may used to have been a problem with the right is now a big problem with the left. Israel and the US is blamed for everything under the sun. That old hatred of the jews is making a strong comeback and will only get worse. No one on the loony left will talk about how Israel is the only democrazy flourishing in the Middle East or that even the Palestinians have more freedom in Israel than arabs do in their own countries. A lot of you have shown your true colors. When people think of the horrors of WWII and think about how people could have done such a thing to the jews, one doesn't need a trained eye to see that in this time and even among your posts how it can easily happen again.

Hello Folks,

Your program certainly stirred up a hornet's nest !! Feels good seeing all us Red Blooded American's lettin' it all hang out. This country needs alot more of that ALOT ! Anyone listening?

I watched and chuckled sadly last night at how NOT ONE of those politicians vying for our coveted Presidency had the GUTS to say that THEY BLEW IT TOO !!

Don't just hold Bush accountable but MAKE your own constituency COME CLEAN !!

Hillary Clinton represents New York for goodness sakes and why wasn't she raising these same questions ?
Where was Nancy Pelosi then ?
What about ALL the other politicians that are supposed to do their OWN HOMEWORK.

These are the folks who failed miserably !!

If you want to play the Blame game look at the folks running for office and ask yourself...

Where was their scrutiny at the most important point in our Nation's recent past ??

Get tough people as that is the only way we will get the cream to rise to the top !!

Best to you ALL and thanks to PBS for at least caring enough in their hearts to try and shed some light on this.

~Rob in NY

PS I gotta say though many of the comments here regarding Jewish lobbyists have alot to do with why Hillary and the like let the proverbial wind blow them that way !!

Mr. Landay and Mr. Strobel,
Thank you for your determination and integrity during what was and is a time of xenophobia and nationalistic fury in this country.
I have one question from the show. It was mentioned who owns FOX news, and I doubt that anyone was surprised to find out it was a republican; however, there was a lot of criticism of the NY Times and Washington Post and some hinting of corporate pressure at CNN for "unpatriotic" news, yet there was no mention of the inner workings of these news corps. I think it is at least as relevent as knowing who owns/runs FOX, as these media outlets are widely considered "newspapers of record" in this country with some level of objectivity.
Thank you again for your great work.

Ryan in RI

Thanks very much for being a competent journalist in search of the truth and having the courage to speak the truth. Anxiously awaiting your weekly program. Thank you. Keep it up! Laura

Moyers, Landay and Sobel,
Bravo! Keep it coming. I would hope that more Americans simply begin to ask questions and not take mainstream press or networks as gospel. As your special pointed out, information can be very circular, with the source quoting the media as the source. Whew! Though much of the neo-con websites are scary, I feel I must read all points of view and not dismiss anything. Americans need to stop being spoon-fed and start thinking for themselves. That is your homework for the rest of your life, people. Begin to think, read and analyze for yourselves. Listen, and be calm. I only hope that the next President restores this country's honor and dignity in the world, that the last 6 years have been destroyed by this administration. Re Patriotism, no political party or group have a hold on that! The days of Love it or Leave It should have been long gone. But the patriot police are at it again. Stirring fear and paranoi. I need only read some of the postings above to feel the bigotry, anti-semitism and just plain bad-temperedness going around. Anyway, keep up the great journalism. We need it.

I applaud your efforts to put a dent in the political black arts of spreading propaganda (that is lies and half truths).

1. Has anyone who, in fact, did challenge Bush's black flag patriotism, in the end, suffer any type of retribution besides Phil Donahue?

2. Okay, we all know now(with the exception of those who live in the koolade village) that the war was fermented out of some rotten information and presented with some very clever timing, but what does that mean for the American press in the future? Are there any real changes coming from the Capital press corp or will it be more of the same? To tell you the truth, for me, the changes have been mostly cosmetic.

And 3, I have been aware of the superior reporting by Knight Ridder for the past three years and, because I live in Yuma, Arizona with no appreciably skeptical or questioning source of news, I sought out Knight Ridder on the internet without success. Do you now have an internet site that anyone can hook up with?

K-R and Bill Moyers describe how important it is to be skeptical of almost everything mainstream press and networks provide. Information is circular, citing each other as confirmation...? I am afraid Americans are so dependent on mainstream media that they will not look into opposing views through books, legal docs, etc. We are a spoon fed nation. And after reading "some" of the writings/blogs above, I still see so much hatred and bigotry, the very ilk that neo-cons and others can get into lock-step; remember America Love it or Leave it - this splitting of ideas that places one side as anti-American and un-patriotic unless they too fall into step. My hope is we can get through this administration without another disastrous mistake....like nuking Iran. Please, let's get some statesmanship and diplomats back out into the world as this planet cannot take too much more of a pounding.

Great program.
As a Canadian I am thankful we did not follow the US into Iraq. Now we find ourselves in Afghanistan and asking why.
I greatly respect the US people for their freedom to get dissenting views and facts out in the open as evidenced on your show.
I hope you can keep this up. Chalmers Johnson's books could prove a good source for followup.

Dear Mr. Landay, dear Mr. Strobel,

I found it telling that your excellent work got public recognition in the wake of David Halberstam's untimely death.
I very much hope that you and your organisation will get the credit for upholding the standards of decent journalism set by Halberstam and others also outside of PBS and its excellent programs.
With all the tradition of reporting in the Viet Nam era, it frightens me that little of it seems to be left nowadays. And it is ironic that what might have shielded you from the errors others committed has been the lack of access to the big shots that might have forced you to do the legwork - no offense intended!
As Europeans, we probably only got to the other point of view because there was so much prejudice (justified, alas!) against the Bush administration. Basically, we have got the same problem over here: He said , she said, and what is the infotainment value of the news snippet.
However, it really shook us when jingoism and one-sidedness spilled over from the "fair-and-balanced" to the other networks - sorry, we do not get hold so easily of your papers over here.
I very much hope that the change of ownership of your organisation to McClatchy will not affect the standard of qualilty set by your work.
The day of reckoning for all of us on the left will come when you go after our pet politicians or projects with the same diligence as you did against those we do not like anyway.
May be I won't remember then my pious words of today but somehow I feel you will do your job.
Chapeau!
Augo Knoke

Bill,
You're special was truly amazing and only confirmed what I have always believed. if this doesn't do it for the remaining 29%, I don't know what will. I am amazed at how easily America gives up it's young people. It's been 4 years and only now, after over 3,000 dead Americans (young ones,)is the greater majority finally asking some questions. We have given up our young in Iraq, we give up our young to school shootings (has Virginia changed it's laws on purchasing a gun yet?). Parent's ask tougher questions when their' teen is asked to a party than when they are told by the government to go into a war. I don't have kids, but if I did, you can rest assured I would want a lot of answers, and I would need to believe in the reasons before i sent my kid off to be a bullet catcher for this sorry excuse for a president. And when, when, is the mainstream media going to grow a pair and hold this administrations' feet to the fire on this. They had 32 kids who were killed in the news for a week, a week, talking about what bright futures they had...what about the futures of the dead and wounded soldiers in this war?

I'm so glad I saw this documentary and found some real reporting. McClatchy news is going on my bookmarks bar ahead of the Boston globe and the NY Times. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Buying the War was simply incredible. Thank you so much for the program. Keep up the good work!

Nice to see Moyer back, but what is this documentary telling us? Zilch! Nada!

Its a day late, and over 3300 soldiers short!

The media can now redeem itself by investigating the Missing Email. This will definitely tell the story, and then some, about how these rotten and ugly people in the dirty White House, for the last 6+ years, have ruined this country across the board - all in the name of Greed and Power.

Interesting... I posted a link to this page on a comments section of CBS news. They deleted the entire blog!

I wonder what they are afraid of.

So much for 1st Amendment rights!

Thank God for Bill Moyers! A voice of reason. Now I have a better understanding about our media response after 9/11. On 9/11, we all knew that our country would have to take some sort of action. Osama Bin Laden had been a thorn in our side for some years. Knowing that he was responsible, I and I'm sure most Americans presumed that our military would immediately go into Afghanistan. Then began all this propoganda about Iraq ???!! What the heck did Saddam Hussein have to do with 9/11? Regardless of whether he had WMD or not. Wasn't the 9/11 attack the issue? Apparently not. The American people were looking for some type of vengeance and were willing to accept anything the Bush administration told them. It's taken 5 years for the people to realize how badly they were misled. It's unfortunate.

From my perspective all I see is a ever increasing decline of standards in America. This exceptional documentary is yet another warning sign of how this nation is on the brink of mental and moral collapse.

Fortunately I was one of the lucky ones who saw the evidence for what it was, a charade by the administration to enter into a war for political gain. It's been hard these last five years knowing what a crock the so called war is while friends and neighbors lapped it all up.

The sad part is that even though these idiots at the top are likely to be ousted next year the replacements, in there own way probably won’t be much better. It seems the only idea the leading Dem’s can come up with is that of running away from Iraq. While I'm all for bringing the troops home I do believe it's slightly more complex now the genie is out of the bottle. I think the only candidate that seems to have somewhat a head on his shoulders is Joe Biden but I don't know much about him.

Personally I think we should pull out immediately but leave a peacekeeping force in Baghdad, at the oil platforms and on the borders. Along with this we should go hog wild and pump the rest of the $123bn into job programs, network and lifestyle infrastructure to get the poor Iraqi's back on their feet. My theory is that if every Iraqi has a nice HD theater system with 24 hour CNN and Fox News they might become as docile as we are.

Is there any chance that Landy and Strobel want to run for office? They would certainly receive my vote.

Now that's journalism worthy of getting off the couch and jumping on-line!

Thank you all so much,
PBS-KETC St. Louis Viewer

Bill,
keep up the good work. I look forward to watching more of your shows in this format on the internet.

Thomas

who is this speaking?
"the idea of going into Baghdad for example or trying to topple the regime wasn't anything I was enthusiastic about. I felt there was a real danger here that you would get bogged down in a long drawn out conflict, that this was a dangerous difficult part of the world, if you recall we were all worried about the possibility of Iraq coming apart, the Iranians restarting the conflict that they'd had in the eight year bloody war with the Iranians and the Iraqis over eastern Iraq. We had concerns about the Kurds in the north, the Turks get very nervous every time we start to talk about an independent Kurdistan."
"Now you can say well you should have gone to Baghdad and gotten Saddam, I don't think so I think if we had done that we would have been bogged down there for a very long period of time with the real possibility we might not have succeeded."

see
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/gulf/oral/cheney/2.html
yep, old dick cheney. he sure was smart back in '89.
what happened?

Could the press please tell me: Does Bush ever listen to shows like this? Does he ever read the papers, news magazines, or other publications, books on Iraq, etc. to get even an inkling of what the public is thinking of his administration? I really think he could be on another planet...we see him on tv dancing with bongo drums at the White House, read how he still backs his old chum the AJ, gives no credence to the Congress. I really don't understand the man. How can he be so 'out of it,' when it comes to the majority opinions of the people? I would really like to know.

It appears. as long as there is PBS there
will always be Bill Moyers. You can't
get rid of him and his clan.
PBS is this apostate's "crysal cathedral".

San Diego

America after the great show Bill Moyers did with
" Buying the War " we need to go to the streets and protest. And do everything we can to hold those responsable for this outrage done to us and our great solders to task. How many more must die?? Call your House and congress members tell them we need to stop the Bush administration.
How much more lies must we take from them. Do we not remember how they Trashed President Clinton for lying about his affair.. "What was their ponishment to him? Impeachment

This is what TV should be about a thought provoking thorough review that stimulated me to think about these issues. I must admit that in the busy world we are often in I do not have the time to listen/read this type of journalism enough. After tonight you have stimulated me to do a better job. Keep it up and how do we get more of the Knight Ridder news?

There were those of us who wondered, during the run-up, how Iraq could have resumed ANY weapons development program while under UN inspection, NSA survelliance and a rigidly enforced "no-fly" zone over much of the country. It just didn't seem plausible. So why weren't the people with direct, first hand knowledge appearing on TV or the newspapers?

Mr. Moyers gave us all the answers to that question last night and those answers were ugly and shameful. American journalism, print and electronic, failed utterly to perform their role in our democracy.

Thank you very much for showing us the true cowardly face of Washington.

Mainstream stories: http://www.killtown.911review.org/911smokingguns.html

Full timeline: http://www.killtown.911review.org/oddities.html

Another goodie: http://www.killtown.911review.org/aids.html

Dear Mr. Moyers,

I'm a long-time fan, but this is the first time I've written about a piece you've done.

I heard about "Buying the War" on Thom Hartmann's radio show and set my TiVo.

WOW! This piece was TRULY amazing! Thank you.

I remember the lead-up to the war. I was one of the 100K+ protesters in Washington that cold day in the January before we invaded.

Why? I didn't have access to a Knight-Ridder newspaper - I live in the suburbs of Washington, DC.

Friends with clearances assured me that the reasons were clear and right for going to war.

Yet, I never believed them.

Why?

At that time, I rode the train to my job in downtown DC every day. I read the Washington Post every day.

Yet, I never believed our reasons for going to war.

Why?

There was Hans Blix, and he found *nothing*! There were our own US inspectors, and they found *nothing*!

I just had this sick feeling in the pit of my stomach that we were going to Iraq no matter the facts.

It was all there for us to see - regardless of friends with Top Secret clearances who assured us otherwise and regardless of our access to Knight-Ridder.

We could clearly see that facts were not going to get in the road of this administration. We could clearly see that diplomacy would not be given any chance.

So, please know that we were not all fooled!

- Pat

I am not an avid blogger. But Moyer's show was so exemplary I had to write. What strikes me when reading alot of these people's blogs - is how much anti-semitism is still roaring out there. It really is terrifying.

Thanks again for a great show, Bill.

Who were the coalition of interests who conspired to invade Iraq?
1. armaments industry and all those from big to small who derive jobs/income from it.
2. Oil industry
3. Israel and its Likud minded supporters.(.code word "neocons")
It seems that the first two groups have profited immensely from the endeavor. Oil is now selling at 50 dollars a barrel. The war business is booming.
Israel is much worse off.

Mr. Moyers, thanks for the program. You did a very good job. The MSM dropped the ball because they wanted that next "big story" coming from the mouths of the lying conservanazi republikans.

I see you have shaken the idiot tree and a few conservanazi goons fell out and left their insults here.
Again, keep up the good work.

To question a corrupt government not support it's illegal actions, is patriotic.

When all opposition is shouted down by the conservanazis, a corrupt and incompetent power like bu$h remains.

BUCK FUSH!

So, what about this impeachment thing? Are we supposed to be serious about the so-called rule of law? Or is this just a fancy way of doing a smack-down of the media?

I don't think so. I love Bill Moyers. But unless I am going crazy and there is some kind of mass delusion, where is the justice in all of this? I don't want just a chastened media. I want a chastened government.

Then again, it's like that old fox and hen thing, isn't it?

A great piece and long overdue. As a Canadian how loves her cousins to the south, I have been heartsick at what Bush and his neo-con posse have been doing. Please do a follow up and explore this issue, particularly the link between business / media / goverment. There is much, much more here. Can you also address who is benefiting financially from the war in Iraq. That might give us a clue as to why the Bushies really invaded the country. Continue the great work.