Bill Moyers Journal: Q and A with Knight Ridder Reporters

Thank you Bill for a thoughtful program with Greenpeace and Friends.They are dedicated activists, who are trying to hold back the tide of environmental disaster. I wish the supported Nader and hope that they will in 2012.Pinning hopes onto a celebrity culture is unfortunately doomed to failure.Obama used the special interests to get elected.

Posted by: captain rick | July 18, 2009 2:37 PM

Great story - Look at what the Media has done with the World Trade Center debacle. It points to these Arab Fanatics when if you were to spend any thoughtful time looking at the facts at AE911.com you would find that these 3 buildings could only have come done in the manner that they did by internal explosions with the chemical Thermonite. Our media will not allow the possibility of such questions to be given an inch of space for the public to examine. Barring all politics, there is no possible explanation for the fast, and ordered descent of all 3 steel structured buildings on 911 than by internal explosions. The physics of this occuring are impossible to avoid. Yet the 911 commission completely avoided ever asking this question. No steel structured buildings have ever been brought down by fire through out the entire planet yet on 9-11 in NY 3 buildings came down in a perfect descent similar to so many buildings we see on video being demolished with high explosives. How is this possible ? That question has not been allowed to be asked in any "public " debate. If it was found by examination that all 3...

Posted by: Newton Mass | July 18, 2009 1:04 PM

Was the Tim Russert interview/transcript edited?

Posted by: LandSurveyor | May 30, 2008 4:56 PM

Bill Moyers rocks. Long may he live and may he keep exposing the crooks for who they are. It's great that PBS carries both NOW, that Moyers started, and his current show. I appreciate having these alternatives on the air. To me, those programs speak more truth to power than the NewsHour. I was motivated to write this partly in hopes that my posting will push the ignorant Nazi-like anti-Jewish racism of JDee's comment off this page.

Posted by: TruthandConsequences | April 18, 2008 11:42 AM

BUYING THE WAR, by BILL MOYERS The video Buying the War is worth watching because it exposes how corrupt the media is. Bill Moyers was skating on thin ice when he produced Buying the War. I think PBS is the only media network that has been willing to air this video. Buying the War documents how the corporations that own the major Media networks acted in collusion with WE the government of the USA, in order to trick WE the people of the USA into supporting the invasion of Iraq after the 911 atrocity. Buying the War begins with Bush admitting to the entire press corps that the press conference was scripted and staged. The reporters laughed but continued to pretend that the press conference was the real thing anyway. Everyone present knew that everyone in the room was part of a farce, and that the purpose of the entire press conference was to fool the American public, so that it would support the invasion of Iraq. Buying the War failed to mention that WE the US government invaded Iraq because both WE the US government and our media are in the hands of Jews. If Buying the War had...

Posted by: JDee | March 15, 2008 3:56 AM

Democracy Now of Feb. 29th(archive available) in a interview with Nobel Laureate Joseph Stiglitz and Harvard economist Linda Bilmes reports that the actual costs of the occupation of Iraq have now topped THREE TRILLION DOLLARS with about 4,000 U.S. personnel killed and at least 60,000 permanently injured (excluding residual PTSD cases). Due to these facts I'm not too worried about Prince Harry Snowden (nee Hewitt) who is a billion-heir and will not be affected by our taxation slavery. People who go to war must accept the likely prospects, as do those of us who exercise our rights via civil disobedience. Armed Forces personnel, before you return to combat in these criminal actions please consider conscientious objection or sanctuary outside our country until we depose the fascists. Thank you

Posted by: Jack Martin | March 2, 2008 6:25 PM

John Prine wrote 35 years ago "A flag decal won't get you into heaven anymore" but in 2002 if you didn't wave hard enough, you were voted from office, ostracized as soft on terrorism, and agin' us. There were visionaries protesting, but alas they were and are marginalized and many remain outside mainstream media.

Posted by: elizabeth woodside | February 19, 2008 7:17 PM

Keep Bill Moyers on the air no matter what else is on PBS, even if he's all that's left. He is the only truth-in-news we can absolutely count on in my country, anymore. I say mine because I am a Vet. Especially, thank you Mr. Moyers for "Buying the War"! CounselorDave

Posted by: David R Carroll | December 23, 2007 6:11 AM

From the NY Times: Q. 2. The Democrats seem intent on pushing into the history of how we went to war and some want to prove "He lied and people died." Will the history support that or some more complicated plot where Hussein actually fooled our intelligence services with a clever deception program? Should the Democrats be careful? - gmasters A. This is the other half of the WMD fiasco: much of the world, including congressional Democrats, European intelligence services, and United Nations agencies, believed that Saddam had some WMDs -- at least, chemical weapons stockpiles and a biological program. This was far less than the administration was claiming before the war; there's a world of difference between chemical stockpiles and a nuclear program capable of producing a bomb within a year or two. But it was grounds for some worry. According to the report of Charles Duelfer and the Iraq Survey Group, Saddam himself created the illusion that he had some capabilities in order to keep his old enemy Iran at bay; in the madhouse logic of his last years, he was lying to his generals and being lied to by his scientists. He played cat and mouse with...

Posted by: Gary E. Masters | December 12, 2007 10:42 AM

saw the report and admire its earnest workmanlike approach. I now know that the administration did make mistakes. Though I am still confused about weapons of mass destruction. Has we not gone to war and had we relaxed the sanctions, could they have recreated the weapons they once had? I think so. But this could have been done to Roosevelt after WWII and some here have said so. This report misses one important question: Was Iraq a danger? If it was, and if it was "unfinished business" with UN resolutions to enforce, did we pick the best of several bad paths? How can we know that not doing anything would have had better results? And, now we are in a difficult situation will quitting be the best way out?

Posted by: Gary E. Masters | December 12, 2007 10:38 AM

Thank you for this careful, detailed, and bone-chilling report on the march to war. The story reveals a particularly black and incestuous cabal between the media, including the so-called establishment press, the cable news programs, the Adminstration, and many Democrats (not just Republicans) in the Congress. The result is the worst foreign policy disaster in American history. The tragedy is that noone is being held accountable. Leading Democrats including Hillary Clinton and John Kerry have really dirty hands, Quislings that they are, they obviously traded integrity and a duty to question the Administration's motives for political expediency. The story explains why the Democrats have not moved to impeach George Bush and Dick Cheney. If leading the nation to war under false pretenses doesn't constitute abuse of power (high crimes and misdeamnors), I don't know what does. Keep up the good work.

Posted by: F Lemoine | December 1, 2007 12:37 PM

Why did Bush want to go to war in Iraq?

Posted by: Anthony Kordecki | November 24, 2007 3:22 PM

While one can only agree with the facts shared in "Buying the War", which I have just seen on rebroadcast, the program failed to mention that it was not just the conglomerate owned media that let the country down, but PBS itself in 2002/2003 was also heavily favoring the administrations position. After watching every program of Charlie Rose for years, I stopped watching in disgust as he only gave token audience to opponents of the invasion. So while the main media certainly has blood on their hands, lets not forget that the hands of PBS journalists are also sullied.

Posted by: Declan O'Reilly | November 23, 2007 10:27 PM

I will admit, as a thinking American, as soon as the White House began talking about invading Iraq I questioned why. By avoiding US common media I did not get "sucked" into the hype Bush was pushing. I, too, feel that it was pushed by corporate greed for Iraq's oil - just look at who supported it the most and their corporate ties. I always wondered why the US media toed the Bush line while the rest of the world knew the truth. Pity the countries that Bush dragged into his personal vendetta and pursuant of shared corporate wealth. Now I understand perfectly why, everytime Nixon was on the air my mother turned it off. I too cannot stand to hear any more lies out of Bush's mouth. Kudo's to the reporters who tried to tell the truth despite a hurricane of brown nosing reporters. Now I not only have no faith in my government - but none in media. A real true American always questions when they are being asked to die or send loved ones to die for their country. My heart goes out in compassion for all the wasted lives caused by this.

Posted by: Sherry Baker | October 13, 2007 1:41 AM

007 9 30 “In the Democratic Presidential debate none of them would commit to taking American troops out of Iraq in the first terms of their administration, if they should win. That would mean American troops in Iraq until at least 2013”. In a bushels of rotten apples which one would you pick? To stop the autocratic “arrogant elitist ruling class” regime is to “AMEND the constitution”, for ALL the issues should be and MUST be placed on the ballot, in the hands of “the people to express their will ”! The Congress, Senate , states and others no longer represent “the majority people and their will”. Laws legislated by the congress, states and local government, funds earmark for wars, bridges to nowhere, social, economic, and educations development shall and MUST be placed on the ballot for “the people to express their will”. To “stop the war or military expansion” it should be in “the will of the people”. To the extend possible - Expend the “EMPIRE” by SOCIAL, ECONOMIC and FINANCIAL AID”. Chris

Posted by: Chris | September 30, 2007 2:17 PM

Let's ask, WHAT IS GOING ON HERE? Okay? It will go much farther than "why". And to rephrase the last post to WHAT'S GOING ON? WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON? for the question "why" has been impossible to answer by anyone. A JOURNALIST WOULD DO WELL TO ASK: WHAT IS GOING ON HERE? And can bet the answers will not come from any journalist with access to the White House. Curious--the much touted fear of a journalist not having access! (The real stories are to be found in the mid level people, says Tim Russet) And the Knight Ridder guys are like Hoffman and Redford. Better to in fear of reporting lies. A journalist lies, people die. It's sad. Sympathies to the reporters who may feel responsible for this war. But isn't war is a racket, a game? It's been going on thousands of years. Well, one can make up for it. Ask WHAT IS GOING ON? And WRITE POETRY! See the Robert Bly webcast with Bill Moyers. Read Kabir! Rilke! Rumi! Life is too short to live in a lie without knowing it. Peace y'all (Thank you)

Posted by: James nemec | September 4, 2007 5:23 AM

Good show, but it does not ask ask why the USA went into Iraq? And why hasn't any reporter, to date, answered this question? Here is another chance for journalists to save face. Most ALL informed citizens know the questions: Is it a corporate motivated war? Is it personal power? Is it privatization of Iraq? Is it oil? Did it turn out to be bad business? The evidence was cooked, this is clear. What was the motivation then, and the motivation now for continuing the war? JOURNALISTS! GET BUSY! IS ANYONE ON THIS QUESTION? Finding out WHY may possibly give the clue to the appropriate resolution of this dreadful conflict. And at least, provide some badly needed honesty...beyond the bull. (Thank you)

Posted by: james Nemec | September 4, 2007 4:57 AM

DLH's posting on 08/28/07 raises interesting questions. To build on his thoughts, I believe we, as the collective citizenry, would be wise to explore in broad terms, the underlying push toward war in the wake of 911. As a possibility, might it be that we are all responsible in some sense, by needing & wanting a scapegoat to exact our rage and powerlessness on that fateful day of national trauma? Certainly, Saddam Hussein provided a welcome target, given his bravado in attempting to frustrate the United States over many years. Why did we fight this war? I imagine there are multiple layers; involving preserving the flow of oil, fanatical thinking on the part of neoconservatives, establishing military bases in Iraq, among other questionable goals. However, what concerns me most is what this war informs us of our national psyche, then and now. Do we have the capacity and the will to fully accept responsibility for what we have sown? I would welcome an exploration on Bill Moyer's Journal, including a wide variety of commentators from different walks of life and experience.

Posted by: William Cromwick | August 30, 2007 10:54 PM

The "reason" bush invaded Iraq has to do with him taking orders from his illumanotti masters. They own both the republican & democratic parties. That's why nothing ever gets done.

Posted by: Jason Duffy Wallace | August 28, 2007 8:00 PM

The theme of "Buying the War" seems to be how most of the country was largely "bamboozled" into supporting the Bush administration's agenda for the war in Iraq. The media, including the New York Times, Frontline and Oprah, was convinced into not only going along with it, but into actually playing cheerleader for that same agenda. The exceptions mentioned in the piece were some folks at Knight-Ridder (reporters Jonathan Landay and Warren Strobel) and Ted Kennedy, both of whom were virtually ignored, despite convincing arguments disputing the claims of the administration. All of this is good stuff to bring up. But some of the reporting in "Buying the War" doesn't go quite far enough. The question remains, if the issue of WMDs and a link between Al-Qaeda and Iraq was knowingly false from the beginning, as to why the Bush administration invaded Iraq in the first place. Moyers doesn't ask that question, nor has the media explored this issue in a serious way. Further, one has to question why the media adopted the posture of support for the government that it did. Why did it not play its proper role, reporting the facts and pointing out when the facts don't...

Posted by: DLH | August 28, 2007 4:23 PM

Based on Jonathan Landay's & Warren Strobel's contacts with intelligence officials, the known public evidence, and their experience, I am interested in their assessment of what we knew or should have known about the existance of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, or lack there-of, in the final month/weeks leading up to the war. As a follow-up, why, in their opinion, did the political opposition, the Democratic Party, fail to educate thenseleves and/or confront the Administration's case for war? Thank you Bill Moyers for providing a platform for researching the inside story of this tremendous tragedy.

Posted by: William Cromwick | August 26, 2007 6:46 PM

Great program! Thanks for the outstanding report. The fact of having this kind of report is the reason why I have such respect for American constitution. After living in 3 countries and spending the last 10 years in the US, I truly come to love this great nation, the more I learn about it. One thing I admire most of this country is people's relentless drive and ability to resolve problems when we see it. I hope we continue to find the truth and solution to this problem we have because this is what's important for our future. God bless America.

Posted by: H Fan | August 20, 2007 3:19 AM

When are we going to quit worrying about what the rest of the world thinks considering the UN wanted Saddam in power so they can make money off him? The UN is the most corrupt organization ever and no one seeems to care about the Oil For Food scandal, which happens to be probably the biggest scandal ever. Entire countries keeping a dictator in power to make money and get oil while knowingly letting Iraqis starve and die from easily curable diseases. What's your excuse for that for the world? And please stop with this media friendly Bush conspiracy. It's stupid. Anyone who believes the media was behind Bush in anything doesn't think with a head void of toxins. We took down a dictator who was committing atrocity after atrocity. Anyone who thinks we're doing the same should just move out of the country and be with the rest of the world. Go to your Utopia.

Posted by: Jesse Norman | August 16, 2007 5:36 PM

Thanks for again airing The Bill Moyers Journal film "The Buying of the War." I was able to send the people on my e-mail list the PBS link that will allow them to view this excellent report. I personally find it very stressful to know that our Government and the US press are such a bad examples for the rest of the World. This has left a "bad taste" in my mouth and we should all be ashamed of our leadership (all branches)for the path they have lead us down. I don't know what we can do to regain the respect of the rest of the World, but I do know that we need to apology and pay for all of the distruction and death we have caused because of our own ignorance. We have to be a better role model in this world of ours.

Posted by: K. Greeney | August 13, 2007 11:54 AM

My wife and I are average people. Most of our time is consumed by work in order to keep our home and cars paid for and maintained. We've spent our lives raising children and getting by. In know way are we as educated as the politicians that have been hired to work for us but we knew from September 11th that it didn't make sense to spend the resources and time to go after Sadaam. My mother mother in law with her tenth grade education could see throuh the insanity enough to wonder why the citizens of the United States were allowing the media present such a one sided view.It seems that the the American people have been more than happy to hear about enemies such as Sadaam, Brittany Speares and Paris Hilton.

Posted by: Richard Snow | August 11, 2007 2:04 AM

Just to add to John Bain's remarks (August 10, 2007 12:48), Saddam's WMD were disproved long before Bush cherry picked the intelligence. The 36 lies that led to war: http://traprockpeace.org/ios030711.html

Posted by: deborah conner | August 10, 2007 5:13 PM

But Saddam was going to nuke us - IMMEDIATELY!! That is why we could not wait. We could not finish the war in Afghanistan!! We could not devote our resources to killing bin Laden! NO!! The smoking gun was going to become a mushroom cloud! NOW! Not later - NOW!! He had drones ready to attack us from the ocean!! Oh BROTHER!! What a crock. And all bought and paid for by the marketing of the administration. Now we are arming Saudi Arabia when most of those who attacked us on 9/11 were Saudis! Rice says it is because the region has become unstable because of increasing Iran influence. She LEAVES OUT THAT THE INVASION OF IRAQ AND HOW IT WAS HANDLED AFTERWARD IS THE REASON FOR THE INCREASED INSTABILITY! So they will arm the Saudis to stabilize what they destabilized? Pretty dumb...

Posted by: John Bain | August 10, 2007 12:48 PM

What I can't believe is how everyone fell for all of this to begin with. I mean we already fell for the Nazi "war machine" we helped create with the help of the jews. We armed Hitler just so we would have an excuse to create an atomic bomb, again with the help of jews. We fell for it during WWI, too. We killed the archduke Ferdinand by not getting involved in European affairs. We sank the Lusitania by standing still. But our history books lie to our kids and provide a great tool of ill-education. Just read at www.threeworldwars.com. The evidence is all there man. Just because I smoke a lot of herb and take peyote like in a daily ritual it makes me more keen on these things than the sheep that is America. The real enemy is the right-wing christian fanatics who want to kill everyone and make their own fascist christian state called the United Christians of America. The jews are already helping them out. Just because they don't believe in the same exact religion, they are brothers in arms. I really hope us dopers along with Hollywood decides to stand up before it's too late...

Posted by: Jesse Norman | August 10, 2007 11:35 AM

What I can't believe is how everyone fell for all of this to begin with. I mean we already fell for the Nazi "war machine" we helped create with the help of the jews. We armed Hitler just so we would have an excuse to create an atomic bomb, again with the help of jews. We fell for it during WWI, too. We killed the archduke Ferdinand by not getting involved in European affairs. We sank the Lusitania by standing still. But our history books lie to our kids and provide a great tool of ill-education. Just read at www.threeworldwars.com. The evidence is all there man. Just because I smoke a lot of herb and take peyote like in a daily ritual it makes me more keen on these things than the sheep that is America. The real enemy is the right-wing christian fanatics who want to kill everyone and make their own fascist christian state called the United Christians of America. The jews are already helping them out. Just because they don't believe in the same exact religion, they are brothers in arms. I really hope us dopers along with Hollywood decides to stand up before it's too late...

Posted by: Jesse Norman | August 10, 2007 11:34 AM

Journalists may have been largely remiss with regard to administration propaganda on the war, but some consumers of the "news" were not fooled. Here is a letter to the editor I published four years ago: Apologize and leave America’s justifications for meddling in Iraq have included Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait (historically a part of Iraq), Iraq’s certain possession of weapons of mass destruction, the need to win Iraqi freedom and, most recently, the putative concentration of terrorists in Iraq, this representing an opportunity to eliminate international terrorism once and for all on Iraqi, rather than on American, soil. Do we know—other than via President Bush and his advisors—that Islamist terrorists are in fact concentrated in Iraq? Wouldn’t common sense require that this be corroborated by experts with no political ax to grind? Enough. The administration would do well to beat its breast and offer a mea culpa to Iraq and to the world. The occupying forces are morally obligated to help pick up the pieces resulting from Iraq’s so-called liberation. They should then leave and mind their own business. – Ferdinand Gajewski,Ph.D., Westfield (Letter to the editor, the [Newark, NJ] Star Ledger, November 5, 2003.)

Posted by: Ferdinand Gajewski | August 9, 2007 8:08 PM

I hate BUSH!!! I really don't, just seeing if this one would get through. Bet it does.

Posted by: Jesse Norman | August 9, 2007 11:40 AM

Like I said, KOO-KOO

Posted by: Jesse Norman | August 9, 2007 11:39 AM

Like I said, KOO-KOO

Posted by: Jesse Norman | August 9, 2007 11:37 AM

The fascinating thing about this report was how effective the packaging and marketing of this was done. If there is a significant percentage of people that still believe the "control freak" dictator would partner up with elements that could destabilize his own grip on his country, that is testament to how well it was marketed to the public. It was sole as an IMMINENT AND IMMEDIATE THREAT - so much so that inspections could not be allowed to finish. This was the "tipping-point" argument that forced the "Now, not later" into the equation. It also shows what happens when you let the Nixon Administration back into power. All the agents from previous administrations will always be lurking in the background to return, so be mindful of that when voting. The news media decries that they lose viewer-ship, and yet they provide nothing of worth to watch, and anchor it with "news-readers", not hardened journalists. We will let them spiral into an oblivion of accountant red-ink. Thanks for a critical look at how the media works. Now if they can just keep breaking the middle class and dumbing down the education system, they can stifle future critics.

Posted by: John Bain | August 8, 2007 3:13 PM

I'm a conservative who opposed the invasion of Iraq from the beginning. Years ago in grad school I studied Islam and learned all about the differences between Shia and Sunni. Unfortunately none of our decision makers seemed to know about these differences. The whole process was driven by ignorance and fear. One of the most interesting aspects of the Moyers report was how what is normally regarded as liberal media---the New York Times, Vanity Fair, CBS News, the New Yorker---went along with all the propaganda and rationalizations for the invasion. It's further evidence of how the majority in our society, both of Left and Right, lost their heads in the wake of 9/11.

Posted by: michael perkins | August 4, 2007 3:38 AM

The reason for my repost is I was attempting to bring some balance. Now it's three against two thousand.

Posted by: Jesse Norman | July 28, 2007 7:04 AM

Funny you didn't put up my post so I will write it again with the best of my memory. Weird that among the hundreds of posts that there are only a couple that attempt to dispute Moyers' reporting. This was yet another Moyers hit piece that only put up facts that he liked and put up none of the facts that he didn't like. Where was Moyers' accusation that Clinton, Putin, Chirac, and many other people who aren't in Bush's pocket said that there were WMD's? Am I supposed to believe that the media was Bush's right hand man? Are you kidding me? What are you smoking? I know you can get left wingers to believe this because they just eat these conspiracies up, but give me a break. Media being Bush friendly, that's a punchline without the joke. Moyers brought up about how Powell was trustworthy BEFORE his presentation to the UN, but there was very little as to what he presented. I wonder why that was. There was NOTHING about the audio tape US intelligence got with a conversation between an Iraqi general and colonel where they were talking about "cleaning up" things and hiding before the UN...

Posted by: Jesse Norman | July 28, 2007 7:02 AM

Thank you very much for your show. Other media outlets should be ashamed to call them journalists. Any high school newspaper reporter could have done a better job. Your show Mr. Moyers highlights the need for Broadcasters using the "Public" Airwaves represent the Public interest and they should not be receiving license renewals when they do not represent the public interest. The FCC and the Citizens of America do not appreciate this bias in the media and we now see the result of this. Enforce the Constitution's First Ammendment for Free Speech and the Constitution in its full language. Do you think what happened to Phil Donahue and Rosie is based upon similar reasons?

Posted by: Richard | April 30, 2007 6:33 AM

I feel ashamed to say I was duped as well. What should the American people do? Where do we go from here? I've never believed everything I hear on the news, but how are people who are not reporters suppose to sift through the trash that is the media and this administration?

Posted by: WesB | April 29, 2007 12:45 PM

Dear Mr. Moyers, I thank you for your piece on the failings of the media. I have lived in mainland China for more than four years, and am quite used to the Chinese Communist Party's "He said she said" brand of journalism. Every night the news is "Hu Jintao said..." 'Wen Jiabao said..." etc and then they call that a news broadcast. Needless to say, every time I return home from China, I am appalled anew that the Washington Post and New York Times, among others who find it suitable to criticize the lack of freedoms in China, participate in this very same form of lazy and subservient journalism that is, in fact, best described as government propaganda. The again, I am sure if we looked closely at the Post and the Times critiques of China's journalistic practices, we just might find that it is yet another "he said she said piece." Keep up the pressure, Best, Eric M.

Posted by: Eric M. | April 29, 2007 12:11 PM

How can we start to get more accurate information when it comes to reports in the mainstream media for the actual numbers of people protesting the current administration and this ill fated war that was started on total lies and deception? Todays headlines read "Several hundred gather to protest Bush" About 600 protesters gathered at a demonstration outside a college campus while President George W. Bush gave the commencement speech at the school Saturday afternoon. http://www.jacksonville.com/apnews/stories/042807/D8OPTBJ04.shtml I can only assume that this probably means that thousands gathered to protest. Why? Well the media has done an excellent job of collaborating with the Bush regime and keeping these facts out of the public spotlight. On January, 27,07 the Mall in DC was overflowing with war protesters and there was almost no coverage in the mainstream media... no visually effective photos from the air (please no excuses for this atrocity...look at the coverage of the average celebrity wedding.)and the media continued to report tens of thousands, when in reality it was closer to one million. When I flew out of DC that night and saw a measly clip on CNN in the airport, only showing a small handful of people,with tears in...

Posted by: Kellie Russell | April 29, 2007 11:12 AM

I have read comments here at random, and Don't think I can add anything but I am glad you're back, and thanks for an eye opening and enlightening report. What ever happened to syndication and exchange agreements?

Posted by: Karl Leuba | April 29, 2007 7:56 AM

Mr. Moyers, Welcome back; I have always admired your penchance for non-truncated facts that yield a fair and balanced view towards a truth. I have appreciated your lucid commentaries throughout the years. You seem to always enable the opportunity for citizens to gain a view outside a pre-determined box that is ordinarily established by mainstream VOX POX entertainment - so called 'news'. Thanks also to Mr. Landay and Mr. Strobel for persistence to the truth and the former Knight Ridder Company that supported their investigative tracking. Mr. Moyers, I am resubmitting this because there is a possiblity that my former statement was not published because something I said may not have been clearly defined, I was aiming for brevity. I will state it again: My thoughts are that you should do a documentary on Sophistry, tying back into Protagorus and Gorgias in Plato. It would be an excellent supplementary to your great work in 'Buying the War' and give some of the public a clear view on how the 'selling out' of the mainstream journalism can happen. I look forward to your continued commentaries. Thank-you for being here in this world, you are a gift.

Posted by: David Strickler | April 29, 2007 3:51 AM

Thank you Mr. Moyers, for this enlightening program with Landay and Strobel. I also want to thank Thomas L, who posted above with a link to the post-gulf war "oral history" interview with Cheney, that showed he must have known what would happen in Iraq if we invaded. He thought the risk was too high in 91. Did Chaney change? Something did. It seems very clear now that this was, as T. Kennedy said, "cooked up in Texas" before the election, and was not a response to 9-11. Yet, the cooks knew what they were doing--they knew what would likely happen. The question on my mind now is "why did they do it anyway?" Can we get to the point where we can say more than just, "oil?" What happened in the 90's that made the terrible consequences in Iraq an acceptable price? It has to be something about the security of the Kuwait operations. All I can say is that I want to know what this is about--what's going on here? Cheney had to be thinking, "chaos is better than. . ." Well, better than what?

Posted by: Tanya | April 28, 2007 12:38 PM

One of the K-R reporters asked what was behind the need to sell the war? The answer is the existence of a unitary, read "imperial," presidency. No one, not even George Tenet - longtime Director of the CIA, could tell the President something that Tenet felt the President would not want to hear. This isn't the first time a civil servant shirked their duty by not speaking truth. But it may be the time when the consequences were the most dire. That the American public and its media institutions fell under the spell of advertising witchcraft should make every patriot stand up and head out the door with pitchforks and broomsticks.

Posted by: Michael Evenson | April 28, 2007 11:14 AM

Great thanks to you all; Landay, Strobel, and Moyers ---- let's see if the American people now start developing a real appetite for the truth, now that you guys have given them a taste? The most amazing and audacious thing about this 2008 presidential campaign is the mainstream media’s assumption that the vast majority of the average, humane, ‘working class’ Americans will actually listen to their pompous BS about who we should be excited about among the field of pro-corporate, pro-war, and pro-imperialist candidates that the ruling-class Empire behind this façade of “Vichy America” has thrown against the wall for us to waste our votes on once again. After seeing the Bill Moyers’ special on “Buying the War”, and seeing this exact same gaggle of pompous and arrogant MSM shills lying us into the disastrous imperial oil-war in Iraq, do they really think that we would trust this pack of media shills and airheads to now be telling us who the best and approved candidates are for continuing to run the deadly ruling-elite scam that our government has become? Hell, does everyone think we are as stupid as Charlie Brown waiting for Lucy to pull away the football for the...

Posted by: Alan MacDonald | April 28, 2007 10:16 AM

I cannot tell you how grateful I am to you, Bill Moyers, the Knight-Ridder reporters and their bosses for being authentic reporters, eschewing the "news entertainment" venue for probing for the facts. Whatever happened to going beyond the Who? the What? and the Where? to the When? the Why? and the How??? I, as many previous bloggers have reported, have lost friends in passionately demanding answers before supporting a war that could take my son or his friends' lives. I could not get them to understand that I cried every single morning over each death as it was reported. I can barely stand to see their faces, their names, their ages as they scroll down my tv screen. It is simply unbelievable to me that any American can see this as necessary and just. I have never been so ashamed of being an American, seen as so cold-heartedly willing to sacrifice our young men and women without asking the appropriate caretaking questions that were our duty to ask. We, the American people, are to blame for this war.

Posted by: Joy Fillman | April 28, 2007 1:56 AM

I had that problem as well, Jon Roberts. They didn't put my first post up either and I didn't break any rules. I also pointed out how funny it is that among the hundreds of posts on here, only a couple were critical of Moyers. Perhaps this post is supposed to be in the same fashion as Moyers' reporting... only showing what they like and dismissing everything they don't.

Posted by: Jesse Norman | April 28, 2007 1:40 AM

I sent in a long response critical of Democrat operative Bill Moyers's revisionist history of the pre-war debate and you guys won't put it up. Just supposed to be one long hallelujah chorus I guess. Change the Post a Comment section title to "If you want to say something good about Moyers". If you want to be critical of him, without profanity, there is a .1% chance your post might make it in. Thanks for keeping independent.

Posted by: Jon Roberts | April 27, 2007 3:40 PM

Bob is right about the anti-semitism. I did point out that anti-semitism, while it may used to have been a problem with the right is now a big problem with the left. Israel and the US is blamed for everything under the sun. That old hatred of the jews is making a strong comeback and will only get worse. No one on the loony left will talk about how Israel is the only democrazy flourishing in the Middle East or that even the Palestinians have more freedom in Israel than arabs do in their own countries. A lot of you have shown your true colors. When people think of the horrors of WWII and think about how people could have done such a thing to the jews, one doesn't need a trained eye to see that in this time and even among your posts how it can easily happen again.

Posted by: Jesse Norman | April 27, 2007 2:56 PM

Hello Folks, Your program certainly stirred up a hornet's nest !! Feels good seeing all us Red Blooded American's lettin' it all hang out. This country needs alot more of that ALOT ! Anyone listening? I watched and chuckled sadly last night at how NOT ONE of those politicians vying for our coveted Presidency had the GUTS to say that THEY BLEW IT TOO !! Don't just hold Bush accountable but MAKE your own constituency COME CLEAN !! Hillary Clinton represents New York for goodness sakes and why wasn't she raising these same questions ? Where was Nancy Pelosi then ? What about ALL the other politicians that are supposed to do their OWN HOMEWORK. These are the folks who failed miserably !! If you want to play the Blame game look at the folks running for office and ask yourself... Where was their scrutiny at the most important point in our Nation's recent past ?? Get tough people as that is the only way we will get the cream to rise to the top !! Best to you ALL and thanks to PBS for at least caring enough in their hearts to try and shed some light on this...

Posted by: R A in NY | April 27, 2007 2:55 PM

Mr. Landay and Mr. Strobel, Thank you for your determination and integrity during what was and is a time of xenophobia and nationalistic fury in this country. I have one question from the show. It was mentioned who owns FOX news, and I doubt that anyone was surprised to find out it was a republican; however, there was a lot of criticism of the NY Times and Washington Post and some hinting of corporate pressure at CNN for "unpatriotic" news, yet there was no mention of the inner workings of these news corps. I think it is at least as relevent as knowing who owns/runs FOX, as these media outlets are widely considered "newspapers of record" in this country with some level of objectivity. Thank you again for your great work. Ryan in RI

Posted by: ryan | April 27, 2007 2:03 PM

Thanks very much for being a competent journalist in search of the truth and having the courage to speak the truth. Anxiously awaiting your weekly program. Thank you. Keep it up! Laura

Posted by: Laura Stebbins | April 27, 2007 1:19 PM

Moyers, Landay and Sobel, Bravo! Keep it coming. I would hope that more Americans simply begin to ask questions and not take mainstream press or networks as gospel. As your special pointed out, information can be very circular, with the source quoting the media as the source. Whew! Though much of the neo-con websites are scary, I feel I must read all points of view and not dismiss anything. Americans need to stop being spoon-fed and start thinking for themselves. That is your homework for the rest of your life, people. Begin to think, read and analyze for yourselves. Listen, and be calm. I only hope that the next President restores this country's honor and dignity in the world, that the last 6 years have been destroyed by this administration. Re Patriotism, no political party or group have a hold on that! The days of Love it or Leave It should have been long gone. But the patriot police are at it again. Stirring fear and paranoi. I need only read some of the postings above to feel the bigotry, anti-semitism and just plain bad-temperedness going around. Anyway, keep up the great journalism. We need it.

Posted by: Bob | April 27, 2007 1:16 PM

I applaud your efforts to put a dent in the political black arts of spreading propaganda (that is lies and half truths). 1. Has anyone who, in fact, did challenge Bush's black flag patriotism, in the end, suffer any type of retribution besides Phil Donahue? 2. Okay, we all know now(with the exception of those who live in the koolade village) that the war was fermented out of some rotten information and presented with some very clever timing, but what does that mean for the American press in the future? Are there any real changes coming from the Capital press corp or will it be more of the same? To tell you the truth, for me, the changes have been mostly cosmetic. And 3, I have been aware of the superior reporting by Knight Ridder for the past three years and, because I live in Yuma, Arizona with no appreciably skeptical or questioning source of news, I sought out Knight Ridder on the internet without success. Do you now have an internet site that anyone can hook up with?

Posted by: Harold Ruggles | April 27, 2007 12:40 PM

K-R and Bill Moyers describe how important it is to be skeptical of almost everything mainstream press and networks provide. Information is circular, citing each other as confirmation...? I am afraid Americans are so dependent on mainstream media that they will not look into opposing views through books, legal docs, etc. We are a spoon fed nation. And after reading "some" of the writings/blogs above, I still see so much hatred and bigotry, the very ilk that neo-cons and others can get into lock-step; remember America Love it or Leave it - this splitting of ideas that places one side as anti-American and un-patriotic unless they too fall into step. My hope is we can get through this administration without another disastrous mistake....like nuking Iran. Please, let's get some statesmanship and diplomats back out into the world as this planet cannot take too much more of a pounding.

Posted by: Bob | April 27, 2007 11:25 AM

Great program. As a Canadian I am thankful we did not follow the US into Iraq. Now we find ourselves in Afghanistan and asking why. I greatly respect the US people for their freedom to get dissenting views and facts out in the open as evidenced on your show. I hope you can keep this up. Chalmers Johnson's books could prove a good source for followup.

Posted by: Ross M. | April 27, 2007 11:22 AM

Dear Mr. Landay, dear Mr. Strobel, I found it telling that your excellent work got public recognition in the wake of David Halberstam's untimely death. I very much hope that you and your organisation will get the credit for upholding the standards of decent journalism set by Halberstam and others also outside of PBS and its excellent programs. With all the tradition of reporting in the Viet Nam era, it frightens me that little of it seems to be left nowadays. And it is ironic that what might have shielded you from the errors others committed has been the lack of access to the big shots that might have forced you to do the legwork - no offense intended! As Europeans, we probably only got to the other point of view because there was so much prejudice (justified, alas!) against the Bush administration. Basically, we have got the same problem over here: He said , she said, and what is the infotainment value of the news snippet. However, it really shook us when jingoism and one-sidedness spilled over from the "fair-and-balanced" to the other networks - sorry, we do not get hold so easily of your papers over here. I...

Posted by: Ernst August Knoke | April 27, 2007 10:36 AM

Bill, You're special was truly amazing and only confirmed what I have always believed. if this doesn't do it for the remaining 29%, I don't know what will. I am amazed at how easily America gives up it's young people. It's been 4 years and only now, after over 3,000 dead Americans (young ones,)is the greater majority finally asking some questions. We have given up our young in Iraq, we give up our young to school shootings (has Virginia changed it's laws on purchasing a gun yet?). Parent's ask tougher questions when their' teen is asked to a party than when they are told by the government to go into a war. I don't have kids, but if I did, you can rest assured I would want a lot of answers, and I would need to believe in the reasons before i sent my kid off to be a bullet catcher for this sorry excuse for a president. And when, when, is the mainstream media going to grow a pair and hold this administrations' feet to the fire on this. They had 32 kids who were killed in the news for a week, a week, talking about what bright futures...

Posted by: Steve | April 27, 2007 10:22 AM

I'm so glad I saw this documentary and found some real reporting. McClatchy news is going on my bookmarks bar ahead of the Boston globe and the NY Times. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Posted by: Jane | April 27, 2007 10:21 AM

Buying the War was simply incredible. Thank you so much for the program. Keep up the good work!

Posted by: Andrew Austin | April 27, 2007 10:06 AM

Nice to see Moyer back, but what is this documentary telling us? Zilch! Nada! Its a day late, and over 3300 soldiers short! The media can now redeem itself by investigating the Missing Email. This will definitely tell the story, and then some, about how these rotten and ugly people in the dirty White House, for the last 6+ years, have ruined this country across the board - all in the name of Greed and Power.

Posted by: Louis | April 27, 2007 9:43 AM

Interesting... I posted a link to this page on a comments section of CBS news. They deleted the entire blog! I wonder what they are afraid of. So much for 1st Amendment rights!

Posted by: Ken | April 27, 2007 9:36 AM

Thank God for Bill Moyers! A voice of reason. Now I have a better understanding about our media response after 9/11. On 9/11, we all knew that our country would have to take some sort of action. Osama Bin Laden had been a thorn in our side for some years. Knowing that he was responsible, I and I'm sure most Americans presumed that our military would immediately go into Afghanistan. Then began all this propoganda about Iraq ???!! What the heck did Saddam Hussein have to do with 9/11? Regardless of whether he had WMD or not. Wasn't the 9/11 attack the issue? Apparently not. The American people were looking for some type of vengeance and were willing to accept anything the Bush administration told them. It's taken 5 years for the people to realize how badly they were misled. It's unfortunate.

Posted by: Sharon | April 27, 2007 8:34 AM

From my perspective all I see is a ever increasing decline of standards in America. This exceptional documentary is yet another warning sign of how this nation is on the brink of mental and moral collapse. Fortunately I was one of the lucky ones who saw the evidence for what it was, a charade by the administration to enter into a war for political gain. It's been hard these last five years knowing what a crock the so called war is while friends and neighbors lapped it all up. The sad part is that even though these idiots at the top are likely to be ousted next year the replacements, in there own way probably won’t be much better. It seems the only idea the leading Dem’s can come up with is that of running away from Iraq. While I'm all for bringing the troops home I do believe it's slightly more complex now the genie is out of the bottle. I think the only candidate that seems to have somewhat a head on his shoulders is Joe Biden but I don't know much about him. Personally I think we should pull out immediately but leave a peacekeeping force in...

Posted by: Chris B | April 27, 2007 7:53 AM

Now that's journalism worthy of getting off the couch and jumping on-line! Thank you all so much, PBS-KETC St. Louis Viewer

Posted by: Kyle | April 27, 2007 5:01 AM

Bill, keep up the good work. I look forward to watching more of your shows in this format on the internet. Thomas

Posted by: Thomas L. | April 27, 2007 2:15 AM

who is this speaking? "the idea of going into Baghdad for example or trying to topple the regime wasn't anything I was enthusiastic about. I felt there was a real danger here that you would get bogged down in a long drawn out conflict, that this was a dangerous difficult part of the world, if you recall we were all worried about the possibility of Iraq coming apart, the Iranians restarting the conflict that they'd had in the eight year bloody war with the Iranians and the Iraqis over eastern Iraq. We had concerns about the Kurds in the north, the Turks get very nervous every time we start to talk about an independent Kurdistan." "Now you can say well you should have gone to Baghdad and gotten Saddam, I don't think so I think if we had done that we would have been bogged down there for a very long period of time with the real possibility we might not have succeeded." see http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/gulf/oral/cheney/2.html yep, old dick cheney. he sure was smart back in '89. what happened?

Posted by: suzanne | April 27, 2007 1:08 AM

Could the press please tell me: Does Bush ever listen to shows like this? Does he ever read the papers, news magazines, or other publications, books on Iraq, etc. to get even an inkling of what the public is thinking of his administration? I really think he could be on another planet...we see him on tv dancing with bongo drums at the White House, read how he still backs his old chum the AJ, gives no credence to the Congress. I really don't understand the man. How can he be so 'out of it,' when it comes to the majority opinions of the people? I would really like to know.

Posted by: Kay Densmore | April 27, 2007 12:31 AM

It appears. as long as there is PBS there will always be Bill Moyers. You can't get rid of him and his clan. PBS is this apostate's "crysal cathedral". San Diego

Posted by: PETER PRICE | April 27, 2007 12:18 AM

America after the great show Bill Moyers did with " Buying the War " we need to go to the streets and protest. And do everything we can to hold those responsable for this outrage done to us and our great solders to task. How many more must die?? Call your House and congress members tell them we need to stop the Bush administration. How much more lies must we take from them. Do we not remember how they Trashed President Clinton for lying about his affair.. "What was their ponishment to him? Impeachment

Posted by: Doug | April 26, 2007 11:08 PM

This is what TV should be about a thought provoking thorough review that stimulated me to think about these issues. I must admit that in the busy world we are often in I do not have the time to listen/read this type of journalism enough. After tonight you have stimulated me to do a better job. Keep it up and how do we get more of the Knight Ridder news?

Posted by: Glenn Mills | April 26, 2007 10:59 PM

There were those of us who wondered, during the run-up, how Iraq could have resumed ANY weapons development program while under UN inspection, NSA survelliance and a rigidly enforced "no-fly" zone over much of the country. It just didn't seem plausible. So why weren't the people with direct, first hand knowledge appearing on TV or the newspapers? Mr. Moyers gave us all the answers to that question last night and those answers were ugly and shameful. American journalism, print and electronic, failed utterly to perform their role in our democracy. Thank you very much for showing us the true cowardly face of Washington.

Posted by: Gene Payne | April 26, 2007 10:58 PM

Mainstream stories: http://www.killtown.911review.org/911smokingguns.html Full timeline: http://www.killtown.911review.org/oddities.html Another goodie: http://www.killtown.911review.org/aids.html

Posted by: bruce | April 26, 2007 10:55 PM

Dear Mr. Moyers, I'm a long-time fan, but this is the first time I've written about a piece you've done. I heard about "Buying the War" on Thom Hartmann's radio show and set my TiVo. WOW! This piece was TRULY amazing! Thank you. I remember the lead-up to the war. I was one of the 100K+ protesters in Washington that cold day in the January before we invaded. Why? I didn't have access to a Knight-Ridder newspaper - I live in the suburbs of Washington, DC. Friends with clearances assured me that the reasons were clear and right for going to war. Yet, I never believed them. Why? At that time, I rode the train to my job in downtown DC every day. I read the Washington Post every day. Yet, I never believed our reasons for going to war. Why? There was Hans Blix, and he found *nothing*! There were our own US inspectors, and they found *nothing*! I just had this sick feeling in the pit of my stomach that we were going to Iraq no matter the facts. It was all there for us to see - regardless of friends with Top Secret clearances who assured us...

Posted by: Pat Malarkey | April 26, 2007 10:27 PM

I am not an avid blogger. But Moyer's show was so exemplary I had to write. What strikes me when reading alot of these people's blogs - is how much anti-semitism is still roaring out there. It really is terrifying. Thanks again for a great show, Bill.

Posted by: Bob | April 26, 2007 8:51 PM

Who were the coalition of interests who conspired to invade Iraq? 1. armaments industry and all those from big to small who derive jobs/income from it. 2. Oil industry 3. Israel and its Likud minded supporters.(.code word "neocons") It seems that the first two groups have profited immensely from the endeavor. Oil is now selling at 50 dollars a barrel. The war business is booming. Israel is much worse off.

Posted by: Mark Kienan | April 26, 2007 8:44 PM

Mr. Moyers, thanks for the program. You did a very good job. The MSM dropped the ball because they wanted that next "big story" coming from the mouths of the lying conservanazi republikans. I see you have shaken the idiot tree and a few conservanazi goons fell out and left their insults here. Again, keep up the good work. To question a corrupt government not support it's illegal actions, is patriotic. When all opposition is shouted down by the conservanazis, a corrupt and incompetent power like bu$h remains. BUCK FUSH!

Posted by: JD Jones | April 26, 2007 8:00 PM

So, what about this impeachment thing? Are we supposed to be serious about the so-called rule of law? Or is this just a fancy way of doing a smack-down of the media? I don't think so. I love Bill Moyers. But unless I am going crazy and there is some kind of mass delusion, where is the justice in all of this? I don't want just a chastened media. I want a chastened government. Then again, it's like that old fox and hen thing, isn't it?

Posted by: John | April 26, 2007 7:59 PM

A great piece and long overdue. As a Canadian how loves her cousins to the south, I have been heartsick at what Bush and his neo-con posse have been doing. Please do a follow up and explore this issue, particularly the link between business / media / goverment. There is much, much more here. Can you also address who is benefiting financially from the war in Iraq. That might give us a clue as to why the Bushies really invaded the country. Continue the great work.

Posted by: Brenda | April 26, 2007 7:57 PM

It's so wonderful to see Mr. Moyers back on PBS. “Buying the War” is an excellent documentary. Bill Moyers’ career is truly an inspiration to us all. (from Joseph Campbell to the state of Medicine, to politics) Thank you so much for being there!

Posted by: miles zarathustra | April 26, 2007 7:52 PM

Those who posted negativelly against Bill have to be the very ones he lambasted

Posted by: jquin | April 26, 2007 7:50 PM

Thank you so much for your great reporting about the runup to the Iraq war. I hope you're still investigating what the Bush administration really did to sell the war to the American people. While I think it's important that the MSM takes a huge rap for their propagandizing for Bush, I also think we must find out why the administration wanted this war, exactly how they manipulated intelligence information, and if they made any promises to news corporations, like tax cuts, etc., to get them to do their bidding. I also want to know exactly who has profited from this war. I have a basic belief that people generally do what they want to do, especially if they have the power to do it. So far, death, destruction and destabilization of Iraq and the entire Middle East are the only things that have been accomplished. And that makes me wonder why the Bush administration wanted it.

Posted by: Jennifer | April 26, 2007 7:47 PM

Dear Mr. Landay and Mr. Strobel, Thank you so much for your dedication to the truth. You are truly what every journalist should be. I have some thoughts that I would like to share with you. I hope you can take the time to answer my questions. Do you believe that the media failed to investigate the events of 9/11 just as it failed to investigate the claims about Hussein and Iraq? Did the media, as well as the public, simply accept what the government told them? The government, who led a controversial and arguably incomplete investigation into the events leading up to and of that day? How many journalists have read the 9/11 Commission? Why has no one reported on such interview's as Charlie Gibson's with Marlene Cruz, a carpenter who survived explosions in the basement of one of the World Trade Towers? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSGZYP--wz0 Why would the administration fail to do a proper investigation of 9/11 if we are under the threat that they repeatedly tell us we are? Why would they turn the focus to Saddam, with intentionally fabricated and unreliable knowledge, if we had truly been attacked by Al Qaeda? This administration has removed our rights granted...

Posted by: Alicia Roldan | April 26, 2007 7:43 PM

Great to see the reasoning, competence and humanity of Bill Moyers back along with the shows reporters who really search for the truth and have integrity.

Posted by: Norm Doebel | April 26, 2007 7:34 PM

I have been a fan of Thomas Friedman for a long time, thus I was very disenchanted to learn he refrained from participating in "Buying the War". Why?

Posted by: Tom Johnson | April 26, 2007 7:20 PM

Thank you for another brilliant report and thank you for having the courage to try to rescue journalism from what's it's become.

Posted by: obsessed | April 26, 2007 7:12 PM

I'm also a skeptic and I won't buy any of this story until I hear it from a more reliable source than the Obnoxious Bill Moyers. I Think that it's about time that all American Politicians and journalist take a course in middle eastern history. I'm really tired of hearing Imbeciles like Hagel, Kucinich, Murtha and Kerry inventing absurd Vietnam analogies. These people are so naive that they don’t even know that they are studying the wrong war. We baby boomers need to get over our mid-life crises and learn about the grown up world of the 21st century. Doug

Posted by: Doug | April 26, 2007 7:06 PM

Knight Ridder reporters are unsung heroes... if only the Fairness Doctrine was in place when they were trying to get the truth out, then hundreds of thousands of lives would have been saved! Knight Ridder needs to report on PNAC. They are the American version of Al Qaeda , and Cheney is their OBL. They are funded the same way as Al Qaeda too, by money funneled primarily through three "charity foundations" into PNAC racketeering organization. Please , Knight Ridder, do a 90-minute investigative report for PBS about PNAC !

Posted by: yankhadenuf | April 26, 2007 6:57 PM

Thank you Mr Bill Moyers for coming back to PBS and for this excellent expose on the Media during the lead up to the Iraq War. I hope this will be replayed in my area for the people who don't have a computer. This is "must See TV"

Posted by: Bob | April 26, 2007 6:45 PM

I truly believe if the coverage of the protest had been televised there would of been more opposition to the war. Just due to the facts of the previous gulf war. Anyone who understood any of the outcome of that conflict would have by logic knew that iraq was left with nothing to work with in the way of nuclear anything. Not only that it was not bio or nuclear terrorism that took down the twin tours. Bush had to find a way to go after Saddam because he threatened his father's life. Not forgetting the bully type mentallity that Bush Jr. has. The People of this country are not dumb they are intelligent enough to figure things out if the press had just truly given us the facts. We as a society due rely on the media to give us the facts because we do know the politicians give us such rederict that we need the press to a balane of honesty and not bologna. I think the media forgot as well as the government that there still is a middle class with intellegence.

Posted by: kathryn smith | April 26, 2007 6:37 PM

Your investigative report was excellent but only further bolsters my resentment for the current adminstration and the media, except the few who want to bring the truth to light such as yourself. And that brings us to another point that you haven't directly made but gets right to the root of the problem. Your show is on PBS. Not CBS, NBC, or any of the major networks. As a result, only a small percentage of the people who really need the truth actually get it. Keep up the good work and I'll do my part to spread the word.

Posted by: Gil | April 26, 2007 6:13 PM

Another excellent work by Mr.Moyers.

Posted by: nikkyo | April 26, 2007 6:01 PM

Jonathan Landay and Warren Strobel have shown more courage and truthfulness in their research than Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein did in the 1970s. I have begun to breathe a little deeper tonight after viewing Bill Moyer's Journal. These last 6 years have been so crazy and layered with lies & deception. I have felt that we, as a nation, had lost our capacity to root out the evils of neo-conservatism shored up by a complicit corporate media. We all know now to skeptically read the NY Times, Washington Post and the Wallstreet Journal. If we speak up, the Bush-Media cabal may be stopped in further launching their traitorous long range "Plan for America." The big mass media conglomerates are clearly linked to selling trusting Americans the Iraq War and the conservative dogma - it was, as I feared, a corporate, fascist spin machine – hell bent on flinging hate and fear upon every American. Now we know of this tragic plague of deception – conceived in the White House and directly linked to our airwaves & newspapers. Beginning tonight, let's have the media compete for our redemption. Vote by viewing only sources that are credible & proven - and...

Posted by: Jim O'Connell | April 26, 2007 6:00 PM

Mr. Moyers: I heard about your program while watching Bill Maher's Real Time Show. I live in Atlanta, GA. For some reason, neither of the two PBS stations in Atlanta aired your program - they chose to air some old rock and roll repeat programs. In a very perverse way - I think that act alone proves your point.

Posted by: Amanda Aycock | April 26, 2007 5:48 PM

I valued last night's program on the media's role in the run up to the invasion of Iraq. As a former newspaper reporter (in a long-ago era), I was left feeling, however, that there needs to be a Part II to expose what is going on higher up the food chain in both print and tv ... in particular, for all news media, the editorial meetings where the decisions are made about page one (and the rest of the pages), about what stories get run, get re-written, get killed, get assigned. The implicit and/or explicit role of the publishers and the owners also needs to be brought to light. That is, how does the influence flow from someone like a Murdoch or owner(s) of the Washington Post (etc., etc.)?

Posted by: David Roy | April 26, 2007 5:40 PM

Thank you for this fine piece of journalism, and please do not let Bill OReilly and his goons pesture you. Bill uses fear and intimidation much like President Bush does to get his points across. Fight back.

Posted by: AC | April 26, 2007 5:39 PM

I have no question. I have only frustration and near complete disrespect for those in the media and the many politicians who joined in on the pre-war cheerleading for whatever reasons. Certainly this cheerleading was based on little fact. The standard line heard over and over of, "everyone believed Iraq had WMD's" ignores people like me who read newspapers and watched and listened to a variety of news sources each day. I possessed no secret information to lead me to this conclusion. Personally, and objectively, I'd say that I was about 80% sure there were no WMD's. Maybe people who didn't watch or listen to news or didn't read newspapers can make the legitimate case that they were snowed by the Bush PR campaign for war. That number most certainly far exceeds the majority of the public, but I do not blame this group. But those in the media or political business have no excuse. Surely not reporters of any professional quality, and certainly not ANY politicians can offer this excuse today. These people jumped on the Bush bandwagon for several reasons: fear for their jobs, fear of the next election, or because they may have been hired Bush PR...

Posted by: Tod | April 26, 2007 5:38 PM

Wow, this is great information. I wish I would have known about this sooner.

Posted by: Colorado Mortgage | April 26, 2007 5:37 PM

To all involved in the making of "Buying the War": While it saddens me that the MSM has seen fit to become "cheerleaders" for BushCo. instead of reporting truth to the American people, I am beyond happy for journalists like Bill Moyers, Jonathan Landay and Warren Stobel who are out there doing the work the MSM refuses to do. America needs the TRUTH; America NEEDS MOYER. Respectfully, Veronica Feinstein

Posted by: Veronica L. Feinstein | April 26, 2007 5:15 PM

Superb piece of journalism. My gratitude for your return to speaking for those of us who are voiceless. Now, can we have a similar expose on the current attempt, by many of the same egregious manipulators, to sell us a war on Iran?

Posted by: Miriam Monfredo | April 26, 2007 4:59 PM

Have to agree with Jim Miller and many other comments made here along the lines of why the Bush administration wanted to invade Iraq. You see many news analyses in the press but rarely do you see a news analysis addressing this question. The focus on "mismanaging" the war also avoids this whole issue. What does it mean to "win" in Iraq? Exactly what's the goal: a client state guaranteed to be pro-U.S.? control of the oil fields and leverage over nations that need Middle East oil? a boondoggle for the military-industrial-petroleum complex? defeating the Vietnam syndrome? all of the above? We know it's not about democracy. Given the number of democracies we've overthrown, it couldn't possibly be about democracy.

Posted by: Rod | April 26, 2007 4:55 PM

I stand corrected. Maybe you will post the the following: Is it unpatriotic to ask questions? Why are we really at war? With such good investigation, we might find corrupt government at its best. Bill, why have you not touched on these questions as: CNN released footage of the Sheraton Hotel security camera showing that a plane did not strike the pentagon, but rather a missle? Why won't CNN air it? They released it on the internet on an early Sat. morning last year. Is this a game? If this is false, let's debunk it. Why did the owner of WTC #7, Larry Silverstein, purchase the twin towers in July '01 along with a $5.5 billion insurance policy extending coverage for damage arising from terrorism? Who is David Rockefeller? What is Skull & Bones & the Bohemian Grove? Websites? loosechange911.com and prisonplanet.com Rose O'Donell was really let go because she refused to back down from debating the government's involvment in 9/11? Why did the BBC report WTC #7 falling 20 minutes before it really fell? Who knew what when? Who planned what, why? Who is Alex Jones? What is the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR)? Trilateral Commission? What did the...

Posted by: S.Taylor | April 26, 2007 4:49 PM

Thanks very much for an excellent show!!! Appreciate your tenacity, integrity, and courage to speak the truth. Thank you. America needs you!!!

Posted by: Laura Stebbins | April 26, 2007 4:47 PM

Missed the showing last night but just finished watching on my computer // wanted to say thanks for an honest look into how mainstream media participated in falsehoods leading us to war -- sad, but true. Now if only you would investigate 9/11 and the many unanswered questions in that mess alone. I am one of the so-called conspiracy 'nuts' that believes 9/11 and our own government (a rogue element operating from within) was linked in more ways than any 19 Arab terrorist could ever hope to be. WTC-7 and the near 2-hour stand down of military fighter jet aircraft are but two issues in this regard. Thanks for the coverage regarding media participation (or lack of it) -- your presentation was outstanding.

Posted by: Jerry Bridges | April 26, 2007 4:42 PM

I cannot believe there hasn't been a sequel to "All the President's Men". I am sure it would make one hell of a movie.

Posted by: Ann | April 26, 2007 4:35 PM

Well ~ apparently my blogg of query regarding the other reasons we're at war, has stepped on some toes. As of 4/14/07, 4:15pm, it has not been posted. I wonder why PBS will only give a wink to 9/11? Why are they censoring a blogg that falls within the purview of an acceptable commentary of possibly relevant material?

Posted by: S. TAYLOR | April 26, 2007 4:19 PM

Thank you for being real journalists, by which I really mean people who value truth and engage in critical thinking to pursue it. Going beyond even the important Iraq issue, you demonstrated on the show tonight what the process of critical thinking is in action. You were not satisfied with what you were hearing, so you were skeptical and kept asking questions. This is the essence of critical thinking, and critical thinking is the main defense against language serving to obfuscate reality (rhetoric). Valuing truth and pursuing it through reason (critical thinking) is rare in our species, society and even in your profession. It is virtually absent from the public discourse on almost all important societal issues and problems. It's absence, which knows no political bounds, is the fundamental reason why we are in zugswang in Iraq and the underlying cause for most of our problems and binds, here and throughout the world. By contrast, Peter Beinhart illustrated what critical thinking is NOT - when he spoke of reading lots of material, i.e. of consuming information. However important information is, critical thinking, i.e. asking questions and thinking about things, including what one reads, is more important. They should show the...

Posted by: Randall Bosin | April 26, 2007 4:11 PM

A great program. I was surprised that it was suggested that the level of press coverage had fallen below the norm during the Bush administration. This has been the norm all the way back to FDR. Landay and Strobel are as unusual as Woodward and Bernstein

Posted by: charles | April 26, 2007 4:01 PM

Funny you didn't put up my post so I will write it again with the best of my memory. Weird that among the hundreds of posts that there are only a couple that attempt to dispute Moyers' reporting. This was yet another Moyers hit piece that only put up facts that he liked and put up none of the facts that he didn't like. Where was Moyers' accusation that Clinton, Putin, Chirac, and many other people who aren't in Bush's pocket said that there were WMD's? Am I supposed to believe that the media was Bush's right hand man? Are you kidding me? What are you smoking? I know you can get left wingers to believe this because they just eat these conspiracies up, but give me a break. Media being Bush friendly, that's a punchline without the joke. Moyers brought up about how Powell was trustworthy BEFORE his presentation to the UN, but there was very little as to what he presented. I wonder why that was. There was NOTHING about the audio tape US intelligence got with a conversation between an Iraqi general and colonel where they were talking about "cleaning up" things and hiding before the UN...

Posted by: Jesse Norman | April 26, 2007 3:57 PM

A great program. I was surprised that it was suggested that the press had failed. The performance of the press during the Bush administration was typical of its performance all the way back to FDR. Landy & Strobel were as uncommon as Woodward and Bernstein.

Posted by: Charles | April 26, 2007 3:56 PM

mr moyers first I have been (and still am) a long time fan of yours going back to the your days as a commentator at cbs that having been said I have to say that, reguarding your documentary "buying the war" I am disapointed while it was "good", in these times, in today's context, good is not good enough it was informative but did not come close to conveying the level of importance and urgency of crisis that we face today the subject matter of your show is not about any "ordinary" concern or problem it is about the group consciousness process that has been successfully hijacked by nothing short of criminals even if you give them the benifit of doubt and say that their motivations are pure and idealogical this does not take away from the fact they are willing to perform criminal even treasonous acts to achieve their ends you only imply things that need to be stated outright, such as: the commercial journalistic process is systemically broken AND advise people to look for other avenues in finding out the facts (or to develop those avenues) even if advising is beyond the scope of what a purly...

Posted by: d marshall | April 26, 2007 3:56 PM

Excellent program Bill Moyers. Great reporting - glad to see you back on PBS. Your report makes me even more furious with this administration and their pro-war propaganda. Our young American soldiers sacrificed their lives for nothing. As Robert Kennedy Jr. said so eloquently, “For two weeks after 9/11, there were spontaneous candlelight vigils in Tehran, initiated by Muslims who loved our country. It took more than 200 years of disciplined, visioniary leadership by Republican and Democratic presidents to build these huge reservoirs of public love. We were the most beloved nation on the face of the earth. And today-in six short years, through monumental incompetence and arrogance, this White House has absolutley drained that reservoir dry. America has become the most hated nation on earth. There are five billion people who either fear or just don't know what to think about the US. For me that's the most bitter pill to swallow.” What a terrible waste!

Posted by: Gay Bergeron | April 26, 2007 3:51 PM

From the L A Times McClatchy net income drops 67% The next story they should do is how the Newspaper Industry fraudulently reported inflated circulation numbers for years Then jump to exactly WHY Google's model is successful. Advertiser's had been getting screwed for soooo long the backlash and resentment is an Ocean deep !! People now have a choice to Advertise elsewhere and guess what they LOVE it !! Trackable return on investment not smoke and mirrors. The entire foundation of the Newspaper business is one colossal SHAM which has now come home to roost. Let's see thm follow on with coverage on THAAAAT !! That would take BALLS of some alloy metal that has not been invented yet ! My last post - the Blog manager's are thrilled about that I'm sure ~Rob in Ny

Posted by: Rob in NY | April 26, 2007 3:48 PM

Thanks Bill for pursuing the truth and the big powerful media sources who kowtow to the almighty dollar over objective journalism! Why did they refuse to question the Bush administration's arguments for going to war with Iraq ? Corporate moguls own these papers and did not want to lose corporate business, wanted to appease Jewish concerns about preserving the state of Israel, and did not want to appear unpatriotic. The Bush Administration was unsuccessful in eradicating Al Quaeda and needed to justify their invasion of Iraq so they tried to make the terrorist connection. The Bush/Cheney case for war with Iraq was developed long before 9/11. It offered them an opportunity to secure our oil interests in the Middle East given the instability in the region. All their corporate friends also benefitted like Exxon-Mobil and Haliburton. We no longer have democracy in this country, it is an oligarchy. We don't have a free press they are beholden to corporate interests and shareholders. It is time for us to take our country back and regain a democratic system.

Posted by: Gail | April 26, 2007 3:44 PM

Much of what Bill Moyers reported is criticism of the media. Thus do not expect the media to spread his words very far. While our troops show great courage, few print and broadcast journalists will ever say: "We are responsible for what happened. We are very sorry." Cowards all! They are like a smoke detector with no battery.

Posted by: Stan | April 26, 2007 3:36 PM

I had been aware of background events in Afghanistan in the days before 9/11, and gasped the day after when Bush administration representatives went on CNN and tied the WTC attacks to Iraq. It was through that prism that I questioned every piece of drum-beating propaganda in the following months. I'm no expert, but if I could recognize the propaganda for what it was and call bullsh*t, why couldn't Rather, Jennings, & Wolf, et al? Thanks for your bravery and backbone in reporting the information you were getting, and to your editors and publishers for having the courage to run what was counter to everything the mainstream media was putting in our faces, daily. I only wish more editors had had the courage to run it.

Posted by: Mary B | April 26, 2007 3:35 PM

The report was good except for the ommission of the influence that American Jews and Israel itself had in the push for war. Unfortunately, until Americans hear the truth, these same poeople will push us into a war with Iran very shortly. Get some balls and tell the whole story. Oh, I forgot, you don't want to bite the hand that feeds you.

Posted by: Pat | April 26, 2007 3:33 PM

The power of the media can not be underestimated. Like Spiderman...with great power comes great responsibility. I commend the Knight Ridder reporters for keeping their nose to the ground and not getting swept up with the ongoing "war" propaganda. From day one I knew this war in Iraq was not right. What bothers me is why the American masses couldn't see past the smoke & mirrors. Excellent report Bill Moyers!

Posted by: Joni McGinnis | April 26, 2007 3:32 PM

Thank you Mr. Moyer for your insightful documentary. However, AIPAC wasn't mentioned for their part in this mess.

Posted by: Diana | April 26, 2007 3:29 PM

This Blog is amteur hour Posts are constantly rearranged when you refresh It's 98% pandering to the creators and I bet this doesn't make it to the Blog anyway. Good grief. The media at their best I guess !! You all are being left in the dust by the internet society that has already had the torch passed to it and accepted it and are running, running, running with it !! Good Luck and Good Riddance Rob in Ny

Posted by: Rob | April 26, 2007 3:29 PM

Alot of American's were smart back then., and even instinctively aware (along with just about a first grader's logic), That's why there were huge protests which went pretty much unreported. That being said.. atleast all of this is now being officially recorded, and publicly "discussed", Maybe that will be effective in some way. At one time in this country..,exposure such as this had some actual effectiveness. I pray all hope is not lost. I haven't been able to watch the program all the way through, as of yet. So far, it seems, there were alot of clarified facts.., people pinned down.., like tails on donkey's. This is expected to feel reassuring. However.., it's just moving the food around the plate.., but noone's eating. The most striking.., frightening snippet.., I was able to catch.., was the 60 minute reporter stating "We had to present it lightly.., make light of it." That was all I had to hear. Rather than this new acceptance of light hearted presentations.., what really needed to happen.., and still needs to happen.., to really effectively pull the weed from the root- (meaning.., to literally save the authenticity.., integrity.., and literal value.. of this very country..,) What needs...

Posted by: nancy | April 26, 2007 3:23 PM

In an earlier post, I suggested we read alternative media. I forgot to mention that may become more difficult starting on July 15th. Earlier this year, the Postal Regulatory Commission (PRC) rejected a postal rate increase plan offered by the U.S. Postal Service. Instead they opted to implement a complicated plan submitted by one of the media giants. Under the original plan, all publishers would have a mostly equal increase (approx. 12 percent) in the cost for mailing their publications. The new plan overturned this level playing field to favor large, ad-heavy magazines at the expense of smaller publications. It penalizes thousands of small- to medium-sized outlets with disproportionately higher rates while locking in privileges for bigger companies. Stand up for independent media: send a letter to congress and the postal service here — http://action.freepress.net/campaign/postal

Posted by: Steve Marston | April 26, 2007 3:22 PM

I sell food products to restaurants in Chicago, did not graduate from college and never even attempted a New York Times’ crossword puzzle. In other words, I’m your basic dipsh**; yet here I was throwing shoes and other objects at my TV four-plus years ago every time some idiot was on talking up the reasons we HAD to invade Iraq. If a Homer-brained guy like me could see the bull these people spewed, why couldn’t the Ivy-schooled journalist unearth the truth? Why didn’t the people who had the power and ability to question and fact-find do their goddamned job! From Bill Moyers Journal "Buying the War” – Knight-Ridder’s NORM SOLOMON: "These were supposed to be the most discerning, sophisticated journalists in the country writing this stuff, and they were totally bamboozled." Shame on you, American Press, with the exception of the Knight Ridder team. Great job Bill Moyers.

Posted by: Gort | April 26, 2007 3:16 PM

Bill's program had a lot of valid information but all this information had been in the Internet blogs for years. One great omission was AIPAC's and Israel's contribution to the deception. Another was the fact that Jewish neocons were some 90% of the deception team--both in the government and in the media (NY Times, Wash Post, Wall St. Journal...)

Posted by: joe | April 26, 2007 3:12 PM

Thank you for the program. It is very important and I hope you will run it as many times as possible. The way the media was used in the run up to the invasion was a lot like gaslighting. How could one trust one's own research when the front pages kept publishing misleading stories?

Posted by: BJW | April 26, 2007 3:12 PM

Thanks Bill Moyer,Knight-Ridder and Dan Rather(whom I feel is another victim of Bushes war).This documentary should be required viewing for journalist students.Do you think it could be shown on cspan sometime in the near future?Maybe we bloggers could push for additional showings from other sourses.

Posted by: carol | April 26, 2007 3:09 PM

Interesting report. Here's what I take from it. What motivated the media to not get the word out was its agenda- to make money which means print/broadcast that which sells and not to print that which does not sell. What sells- responding to public fear. The Gov desire after 9/11 -Not to let another destructive event like 9/11 happen again. One Gov solution- get rid of Sadam. (other motivations may be possible). The media responded to greatest public fear of another 9/11 and turned a blind eye to our rightful fear of government's hidden agenda. In the Moyer’s 25 April report I again see the media agenda - make money/increase viewership by responding to public fear. Now it’s focused on the fear of government.hidden agendas. Report approach- present the government as manipulative and critic the media for not reporting about manipulative government. There was no stated reason why the viewers should now trust the media and no explanation of this reports agenda. If this sounds cynical its because what I didn't see in this report were clear statement of the reports agenda. Why should any one believe in a media (left or right) that has failed in the past to...

Posted by: don | April 26, 2007 3:01 PM

We long ago concluded that we had to get our national news from alternative sources. That said, we deeply appreciate Bill Moyers, PBS, and all who interviewed for the show airing the truth in national media. If it had been FOX, we would have expected to see and hear spins on the show in the news the next day, keeping it out in the "public". This show was clearly news-worthy in itself, but what do we see and hear today about it? Nothing. PBS, please re-run this show ASAP and often.

Posted by: Grateful in the PNW | April 26, 2007 3:01 PM

Thanks for a great documentary. And thanks to the real journalists, like Landay and Strobel, who stood as an example to the profession of what it can be. Thanks to the government officials who did speak out to tell us what they knew ahead of time. And to the devil with those dishonorable people who lied then and continue to lie now.

Posted by: Charles | April 26, 2007 2:59 PM

Mr. Moyers, Thank you so much. You are a king among men.

Posted by: Sandra | April 26, 2007 2:47 PM

All U.S. wars over the past century were preceded by a carefully planned and executed campaign of deception that involves (1) censorship of key facts followed by (2) injection of false information (propaganda) via the media. American journalists and media executives have always played a central role in this sordid process. The Iraq war is just the latest example. Ever since President Wilson hired progressive journalist George Creel to sell Americans on World War I, the close working relationship between the national media and the war planners has grown ever closer and more efficient. Do not be fooled into thinking this happens by accident or from incompetence. Just remember that during war the first casualty is always the truth. Terry Hansen author of 'The Missing Times'

Posted by: Terry Hansen | April 26, 2007 2:43 PM

Good program but for those of us who go to alternative news sources like Democracy Now!, FAIR, Pacifica Radio and so on, this was old news. The best thing you could do is ask PBS and NPR to add Democracy Now! to their regular schedule of programs. Then perhaps this society might become a bit more media literate.

Posted by: Buba | April 26, 2007 2:40 PM

I agree with Maggie Bott - kudos to the Knight Ridder boys for getting it right, but for Canadians and, I imagine, others, this was an obvious load of BS from the beginning. So while statements such as Tim Russert's 'I wish my phone would have rung' may be sadly telling (you're a reporter, you idiot), I think we also need to examine why so many Americans, politicians included, allowed themselves to be misled by 'the powers that be.' If the rest of the world could discern the deception, why not you? And let us neither forget that Americans re-elected Mr. Bush nearly 20 months after the invasion of Iraq, when it was more than apparent that they had been sold a bill of goods. I don't, therefore, really buy the whole 'woe is the media-betricked me' image. People get the media, government, and society that they deserve.

Posted by: Joseph Adams | April 26, 2007 2:36 PM

OIL, OIL, OIL......

Posted by: Charles Stubbart | April 26, 2007 2:31 PM

This program's presentation of the facts makes sense to me. I'm convinced that most media orgs were either compliant or negligent in their reporting on this issue. However, there's no excuse for how the American public benignly accepted the irrational case made by the Bush admin for attacking Iraq. A minimal effort would've allowed us to see through it all but we didn't do it. Worse, we didn't want to do it. We wanted revenge for 9/11 and we wanted it fast and against the easiest target we could find. And we still don't have the guts to put our foot down forcefully enough to stop the madness. Shame on all of us.

Posted by: Biff | April 26, 2007 2:28 PM

Another thing...If this blog is screened for hurtful and malicious comments, how come the comments about "zionist conspiracy" nonsense was not removed? Also, how come there are no opposite points of view about the program? I could not find a single posting not praising the program. Nice diversity!!

Posted by: Rob | April 26, 2007 2:22 PM

Nearly everything the administration said or did with respect to the Iraq war falls apart when confronted with a simple aphorism: The wisdom to act is not wisdom in the actions chosen. What made this war, at this time, in this way, THE way to proceed after 9/11, and against Islamic radicalism? No one, in my experience, has made any of the sorry lot of clowns who drove the Iraq war forward address that simple question. Whenever they are confronted, they invoke a need to be strong and resolute. Arguabley one of the most significant lessons of the 20th century was that it is quite as deadly to be foolish (WWI, Vietnam)as it is to be weak and irresolute (fascism and WWII). Fighting wars in a world with WMD's takes on the aspect of striking matches in a dynamite factory. You may get away with it for a while, but if ISN'T a good idea.

Posted by: R K Rodebaugh | April 26, 2007 2:20 PM

I am a Foreign in this country (from Brazil) and getting through this war has been very painful. I have never believed in this adminstration's case for the war against Iraq. First WMD and then free the Iraq people! The few articles I could find that raised questions against the war always seemed founded in actual facts. I thank you for doing objective journalism. I do believe the American press has blood in its hand for its courdice and for being part of the Administration's propaganda machine. Regina Sant'Anna

Posted by: Regina Sant'Anna | April 26, 2007 2:16 PM

As many others who watched "Buying the War" last night, I am left with the question: Why? Why did Bush do this? And how, as a human being, could he have done it? Why did he and so many others lie to America? I want to know why and I want all Americans -- and the whole world -- to know why. I think it must be recognized, however, that not all Americans want to know why; some don't even want to acknowledge that the lies even occurred. I know many right-wing (read: religious) Americans who still insist Bush is doing God's work, that the WMD were there -- maybe just hidden in the desert or something; that only left-wing, unpatriotic liberals would even consider not supporting the Commander in Chief. (Even when Bush was first elected, I shuddered at the notion of this cowardly man as Commander in Chief of our armed forces.) I am now more cynical than ever about our politicians, the so-called servants of the people. The huge danger now, it would appear, is that we all know we can't believe anything we're told -- so we may find ourselves unwilling to support a TRUE threat...

Posted by: Elizabeth | April 26, 2007 2:16 PM

I was inspired that Bill took on this issue. I was also so impressed and inspired by the two journalists from Knight Ridder. Thank you so much gentlemen. Your courage is worthy of some sort of award and we average Americans owe you an enormous amount of gratitude. You stand honest in the face of powerful people bent on hate and destruction of our way of life and I’m not taking about the terrorists of the world. I’m talking about the big-bucks conservative talk show hosts and pundits who so easily influence the less informed and historical lacking amongst us. I went to bed last night thinking it might make a difference. Then I turned on the morning news and watched as our media had on guest after guest using the same language as the people exposed as liars in Bill's program. So does it matter? It’s a sad state of affairs. Will the media ever go back to being a pillar instead of being a sound box that regurgitates the company line? All the cable news shows still refer to the war as a "war on terror" when, in fact, anyone who has spent anytime looking into it or...

Posted by: Robert W Russ | April 26, 2007 2:12 PM

If you want to know why the media was mute, you need to google The Money Masters pt1 & 2 Also: Freedom to Fascism RON PAUL for President!

Posted by: Maggie Bott | April 26, 2007 1:49 PM

Good doc, but too little, far too late. Watching the American news media from Canada during that period we were repeatedly amazed, disgusted, frightened, at the lack of response to what seemed very clearly to be straight lies emanting from the White House. The interviews in the doc basically say "oops we made a mistake". But for virtually everyone to have decided NOT to report on the real story, something else was going on. It appears now and appeared at the time that the US was in a very serious state of mass delusion. Scary when you think about it. I also thought Bill Moyers, though usually a good interviewer, was even now making some of the very same mistakes that he was critiquing. He was quite hard on Peter Beinart, certainly with good reason, but very easy on Dan Rather who should simply be ashamed of himself. Why the tough posture on Beinart, and easy posture on Rather, who without doubt was infintely more influential than Beinart in shaping the mass story. I expect more from Moyers.

Posted by: M. Hannan | April 26, 2007 1:44 PM

A big "thank you" to Bill Moyers for this excellent program. Truth brings clarity, cleansing and potential healing. But the tougher part is doing the homework to honestly face ourselves and name our own fears in order to experience our own healing, and ultimately our healing as a people. As long as we cover up our fears with military might, greed, arrogance, and violence for that illusion of security, we will continue down a path to ultimate self-destruction. We need those who are ready and willing to keep asking the deeper questions in order for truth to shine. To Bill Moyers and others, keep up the courage!

Posted by: Gwen Stamm | April 26, 2007 1:44 PM

Congratulations on outstanding work. Do you think the economics of reporting (eg. the buyout of Knight-Ridder by McClatchy) has contributed to the dearth of truly "investigative" reporting...and if so, what trends do you see for the future of journalism?

Posted by: Mike | April 26, 2007 1:42 PM

Had the media told the truth, it wouldn't have made any difference. Remember that the media DID tell the truth about the UN WMD inspectors, by continually reporting that inspectors were on the ground for four months before the war began, and that no hint of WMDs had been found. That was enough evidence that WMDs did not exist. The media didn't hide the news about the inspectors; it was in every newspaper. So we can't blame the war on the media. It's to be blamed on the Bush administration lies, and the gullibility of everyone who read about the UN inspectors. Several posts here have said "I believed the media." Then why didn't you believe the media when they reported that no WMDs were found in the four months before Bush attacked Iraq? That should have opened your eyes...

Posted by: Sam Duncan | April 26, 2007 1:41 PM

Well Done, I just watched the show and it was the first primetime tv critique of Operation Iraqi Liberation (OIL) that I've seen. It was interesting to hear the CEO of CNN say that they were snapped into line by FOX's aggressive reporting tactics. To examing this fear more closely I'd recommend the documentary 'Outfoxed: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism' Also I recently saw the documentary 'Iraq for $ale' and would recommend it if you liked this. Keep digging KR! Moyers Thank you.

Posted by: Dan | April 26, 2007 1:37 PM

Mr Moyers, You are definately the best damned investigative reporter that we have in this country.Thanks for coming back to PBS. Ivan Dixon

Posted by: Ivan Dixon | April 26, 2007 1:31 PM

Great reporting on a topic full of revealing insight on what has happened in the 21st century to America. The person who commented that we Americans have allowed ourselves to be mere Consumers. Living our lives in America for the next consumer sale looking for the next material thing. It is sad to know that so many of our fellow Americans have had their lives changed forever due to the actions of a single individual, President Bush (43). I have been saiding for years that as Americans we should demand a creation of a basic aptitude test so we can judge whether or not a person is fit to be President of the United States. It would call the Presidental Aptitude Test or PAT. If, such a test had been in place our current president would had failed the Foreign Affairs section. I would lke to see Bill Moyers produce & broadcast a comprehensive program on what are the essential qualifications for the job position classified as United States President other than age, place of birth etc.

Posted by: Von | April 26, 2007 1:30 PM

Scott Ridder on MSNBC Hardball got me thinking that maybe this case for war was BS. Immediately I found the writings of Knight Ridders guys and others overseas that made it abundently clear that we were being sensationalized by the mainsteam media and forced into war. Knowing that our case for war was BS, when the moment came to enter Iraq I heard on the radio while driving and felt sick to my stomach, literally. There are two basic questions I would love to see you explore. 1) Why the white house was in such a frenzy to go to war. 2) Why was the media complicit. You showed that they were complicit and incompetent, even fraudulent, but the issue of why was only touched on. That could be a whole other show. Thanks so much sir.... about time someone put together a piece like this.. DO NOT STOP HERE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!

Posted by: Charles | April 26, 2007 1:26 PM

Excellent program. Lets hope the lessons learned resonate with more in the mainstream. Your hard work is appreciated.

Posted by: Eric | April 26, 2007 1:24 PM

Great show, thanks to KR for sticking with their investigations. Another reason, as if we needed one, to stay away from network and Beltway sources. Thanks also to Moyers for a good summary of what we as a nation purchased from Bush. The only element missing was the linkage between Likud/AIPAC and the neocons.

Posted by: Ev | April 26, 2007 1:19 PM

This is the only place in broadcast journalism where we were going to see this truth. Spectacular show...please repeat it. I feel like crying. How can this administration be punished for their criminal deceit, the disaster they were determined to initiate, and the lives of 3000 dead young Americans which they wasted without purpose or mercy?

Posted by: John Camerlo | April 26, 2007 1:18 PM

Excellent piece! This needs to be put on mainstream media outlets. Unfortunately, not enough people watch PBS. If we can put this on a internet media outlet like youtube, it will spread like wild fire!

Posted by: Ken | April 26, 2007 1:12 PM

Mr. Landay and Mr. Strobel, I would like to contribute a gazillion dollars (it'll take me awhile to get it together) to the journalism schools that produced such exceptional reporters. Thanks for your skepticism and persistence. I think just for the heck of it I'm going to give Tim Russert a call so he can continue to pretend he's a real journlist.

Posted by: Julie | April 26, 2007 12:59 PM

Thanks for the informative program. Please do a repeat of it and a follow-up. Kudos to Landay and Strobel.

Posted by: Helen Ray | April 26, 2007 12:57 PM

I think that a list of all the reporters and pundits that were clearly in the pockets of the administration and right wing extremists and did their bidding should be distributed and protests mounted to have these people fired - not for expressing their opinions, but for deliberately misleading the public by presenting biased "opinions" as verified "facts". After all, people such as Don Imus and Dan Rather, were severely punished for their on-air missives, even though as bad as these were, no one died as a result; while tens of thousands of people have been killed and hundreds of thousands maimed as a result of what the pro-war reporters and pundits said prior to entry into the war - and they still have their jobs. What kind of justice is that? I also believe that what people like Perle, Kristol, Safire, Will and others said in order to help sell this despicable war, should be LOUDLY repeated every single week (and placed prominently on YouTube) until this disastrous war ends! They should be publicly humiliated at every opportunity in the same way that they threatened to humiliate and punish those few brave souls that questioned the basis for the...

Posted by: Truth Seeker | April 26, 2007 12:56 PM

Four days after 9/11, I found myself yelling, "Dammit, stop telling me how to feel!" at my TV at the sight of yet another hyper-patriotic commerical. I needed only four days to realize that the media's reaction to 9/11 had the makings of a vast right-wing conspiracy. The firing of a reporter who questioned Bush's whereabouts, plus CNN's policy of prefacing reporting of the invasion of Afghanistan with reminders that "they" had killed "us," confirmed my supicions. I took out my frustration on the Internet, where I found out that the bin Laden and Bush families have been doing business together for years and that Osama got his basic training from the CIA. I knew I was on to something, and have gotten the bulk of my news from the Internet ever since, with the help of political message boards and the birth of the blogosphere. My only regret is that the anthrax attacks on the media wasn't mentioned--fear of an envelope containing powder may have done as much to intimidate reporters as fear of an envelope containing a pink slip. Aside from that, I didn't really learn anything "new" from the show--except how it feels to see the investment...

Posted by: Adrienne Collier | April 26, 2007 12:51 PM

Watched the exceptional program on the lead up to the Iraq war... Excellent! I have wondered over these months if Bill Moyers accepts the official version of the events of 9/11? I am not a particularly paranoid person, BUT, upon close observation, there is no way for me to buy the original story. It clearly was not the work of extremists with box cutters! Are there any plans to examine 9/11 in future programs? GREAT WORK! Please keep it up - we need you, Bill!

Posted by: Allan Krueger | April 26, 2007 12:43 PM

There seems to be a happy coincidence developing, which one might even attribute to the passing spirit of humanist, Kurt Vonnegut. At the exact same time Bill Moyers' "Buying the War" and many other Internet-based truths are revealing the corrupt and lying corporate media and quickly escalating the public awareness that the elite, corporate media is guilty of abusing average ‘working class' Americans --- “treating them like a rich kid’s Christmas toys”; Dennis Kucinich, with his populist/progressive courage to attack the Bush Empire and Cheney with impeachable offenses against the American people, is likewise revealing the corrupt and lying corporate political scam that has allowed our democracy to be stolen by a guileful global corporate elite Empire hiding behind this crooked façade of “Vichy America”. The American 'working class', which is the vast majority, is starting to “See Clearly Now” (as the song goes) how they have been abused and lied to and they will turn against this corporate Empire controlled political scam and corporate controlled media scam with a vengeance. Hopefully, with your efforts both the corporate elite political structure and the corporate corrupt media structure will fall FAST and HARD.

Posted by: Alan MacDonald | April 26, 2007 12:15 PM

My question involves the proper stance for a reporter who is reporting a speech about Iraq by a political figure like Sen. Lieberman. I have in mind the frequent reference to "the enemy" who must be "defeated." The hearer is meant to imagine Al-Quada as "the enemy" when in fact the action proposed by the speaker will involve Al-Quada only very little or not at all. For example, the "surge" is justified as crucial to defeating the "enemy" without mentioning that the violence in Baghdad is attributable primarily to a civil war. In that civil war, who is the "enemy?" The Shias? The Sunis? Obviously, neither, yet the speaker has not wanted the listener to focus on the ambiguity of his speech. May the "reporter" do that? If so in what context? May a reporter's "comments" be included in a front page article or must they be in an op-ed type piece. Thanks for a great program. I have ordered the DVD.

Posted by: Regner Arvidson | April 26, 2007 12:09 PM

Mr Moyers, You are a great American. Thank You !

Posted by: global yokel | April 26, 2007 12:07 PM

Terrific journalism...happy to see Bill back. Nothing was mentioned about the handling of the pre-war information by PBS "News Hour." Was it similarly cowed by public opinion and the Republican administration? Oddly enough, the internet seems to have hampered my take on the war. Before connecting to the internet, I listened constantly to NPR. However, once I was connected to the web, I devoured the Wash. Post and the NYT--neither of which displayed much critical thinking. Add Tom Friedman columns and Powell's UN appearance to the mix and who was I to question their conclusions. Since the awards, I have added McClatchy to my bookmarks and read BEFORE the other two. I couldn't wait to see Landay, Strobel & Walcott last night! Koodoos to Dan, Bob,& Tim for appearing.

Posted by: Cynthia | April 26, 2007 12:07 PM

Let me echo the "thanks" for terrific reporting. If only other news organizations had followed your lead, America obviously wouldn't be in the position we are. My question would be, where are the series of stories indicating who is benefiting from this war. It's obvious that we're not in this war for the reasons given -- so the only other explanation is that there is a powerful cabal that wanted this war for reasons I would expect revolve around money. From the oil fields of Iraq to the gas pipeline in Afghanistan. From the military industrial complex to the contractors working to 'rebuild' Iraq. With a trillion dollars up for grabs, those with the political, business and personal connections have surely made a killin' (pun intended). With that much money and so many mouths at the trough there must be some trail that leads back to the pockets of many of the biggest war-hawks (chicken-hawks). All necessary sources should be devoted to tracking down the connections and following the money to those who have increased their wealth at the cost of tens of thousands lives.

Posted by: CSR | April 26, 2007 11:59 AM

Finally the masses get a good summary of how the military-industrial complex/neocons highjacked America. I say hang em high. And clean house and senate. Is this a form of government deserving to be a model for any country? Not.

Posted by: jack lowell | April 26, 2007 11:56 AM

Many people outside the Beltway were skeptical about the WMDs because it was obvious they were a pretext for the invasion of Iraq. The real reason for the invasion had been calculated by the neo-cons when they took the plan to to Clinton and Israel. Even after no WMDs were found, the neo-cons, said, "So what? The real reason for the invasion was to change the Middle East. What was alarming was that so many pundits, and columnists played the game about intelligence on WMDs instead of using elementary political skepticism. The war was already planned. Finding an plausible excuse in WMDs was clearly an excercise in mollifying public opinion. The undertold story is how the neo-cons brought this off.

Posted by: Michael Berryhill | April 26, 2007 11:56 AM

WOW!! I was, at least as a bar going 20 - 21 year old at the time(2002-2003), sucked in hook, line, & sinker to the evidence furnished me by the news media. As a younger person, I never really though to challenge what the major media channels were reporting, how could I have been so wrong. I know wonder, as this continues to happen, what/who to believe and trust, where to get my information, and if anybody may be held accountable for their actions. I just saw a piece on my local public station yesterday, here in Chicago, about the possible/probable corruption of media and the negativity that media consolidation would bring. This was a speech by John Nichols given to the League of Women Voters. I feel that, maybe not in whole but at least in part, their may be a connection with those views and the misrepresentation given by many news media groups in this country. I've always taken most things with a grain of salt, but recently have begun to be much more interested in this whole field and have now raised a serious eyebrow very high as to what has and is going on. -Christian Anderson...

Posted by: Christian Anderson | April 26, 2007 11:55 AM

So glad to have Bill Moyers back on PBS. My question: would it really have made any difference to have honest, objective, fact-finding reporting during the run-up to the war, given the rubber-stamp Republican congress which refused to scrutinize any administration policies?

Posted by: Susan Bell | April 26, 2007 11:52 AM

Bush should be impeached and then tried as a mass murderer. Rove should be drawn and quartered for enableing the the murders. The neo-cons should all be droped off in Bagdad to be properly welcomed with flowers and candy. Thanks for your good work.

Posted by: Skip Potter | April 26, 2007 11:51 AM

And the Washington Post still doesn't understand why I canceled by subscription after 30 years. Maybe this will finally sink into their thick neocon-apologist skulls, and they will realize that the W. Post has become just another propaganda arm of the fascist Bush administration. They probably don't even care anymore.

Posted by: Thomas Jamison | April 26, 2007 11:51 AM

Thank you for an excellent report - that makes me even madder than I was before about the war and the way we chose to go to war. I am now even more mad that most of the media so miserably shirked their duty and responsibility to "tell the truth". What can a citizen do to press the media - especially TV - to ask, and keep asking the tough questions until they are honestly satisfied themselves that they are reporting the truth? I pick on TV because I know there are many young people (under 40) who only get their news from TV and the web. I greatly appreciate your reporting, but I do not recall that much of what the two featured Knight Ridder reporters wrote made it to the front page of our local Knight Ridder paper - The Charlotte Observer. How can we hold/ encourage/make/etc. journalist seek a truth that they believe as individual contentious reporters? How can we impact their corporate superiors to allow and support their reporters in their quest for truth? I want the unvarnished truth - good, bad or indifferent. I thought that is what good reporting was supposed to be about.

Posted by: John Highfill | April 26, 2007 11:47 AM

If it is possible one might interpret this mess with a positive attitude. No one with a half a brain will ever believe anything said by Bush, Bush, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfield, Libby, Pearle, Krystal, etc,etc again. These are the so called military authorities who let Bin Laden get away. JimO

Posted by: James F. Olmsted | April 26, 2007 11:44 AM

Thank you all for your journalism excellence. Was there a reason you didn't address why the Bush Administration have pratically given up on it's goal of finding Osama bin Laden?

Posted by: Tim Sullivan | April 26, 2007 11:43 AM

Great program Bill Moyers!! Now people know why I have referred to the news media as "The News Media corpSE. They are dead from the neck up. Thank-you Reuters and Bill Moyers for slamming the "LAPDOGS" that did not do their jobs! John Walcott, Jonathan Landay, Warren Strobel are today's Ben Bradley, Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein!! How ironic that C-Span did not have Walcott, Landay or Strobel on their morning program this morning after Moyer's show aired, yet they did have warmonger Bill Kristol on instead! Proof we still have a lapdog media corpSE! They haven't learned a damn thing!!

Posted by: Tom Wieliczka | April 26, 2007 11:39 AM

It was good (and sad) to see all of that info in one place. Two caveats: hindsight is (or more easily can be) 20/20, and much of that info was available before the war, but only if you went beyond mainstream media. Relying solely on newspapers, major newsweeklies, and networks and cable news outlets is (and obviously was) a recipe for disaster. We all should be grateful for "Buying the War." But we should resolve to read alternate sources from now on: there are many weekly, bi-weekly, and monthly magazines and journals that tell it like it is, as well as alternate sources on the Web. Now what? I think two of the most compelling questions are: "How do we extricate ourselves from a war we never should have started in the first place, in a way that doesn't make what we've already made worse, even more so?" and "Shouldn't those who lied to us to sell the war be punished?"

Posted by: Steve Marston | April 26, 2007 11:33 AM

Thank you for maintaining your professionalism and integrity though this darkness of our history.

Posted by: Kenneth Cohen | April 26, 2007 11:21 AM

GREAT REPORTING!!!!!!!!! It is a shame that it came to late for the Iraq people and the American soldiers who gave their life for nothing. Our moral standards have lowered a lot since Watergate. To think that a president was forced to resign for that!!!! Chenney, Bush and Rumsfeld are war criminals.

Posted by: November9 | April 26, 2007 11:18 AM

That's the how, what about the why? In 2002 I knew the rationale for war was a pack of lies. The war protesters saw through Colin Powell's UN speech, and all the other transparent pro-war propaganda. Let's talk about the question Moyers never even raised: Why did the war happen? James Bamford was on the show. He has a theory, explained in his book. His book was featured, but not his theory. Bamford says we went to war for Israel. He makes a good case. Worth a look, maybe? The connection between the neo-Cons and Zionism is both undeniable and unmentionable. Michael Klare, not on the show, says we did it for the oil: "Blood for Oil." Pretty obvious on the face of it. I don't remember hearing the word "oil" on the Moyers show. A third explanation is what I call "Legionnaires' Disease," the tendency for a wartime president to have dictatorial power, and hence the temptation to create a war to get that power. This was covered indirectly, but America's love of war, which makes it possible, was not. If the country has had enough peace, and is ready for the next war, the lies that get...

Posted by: Howard Morland | April 26, 2007 11:15 AM

Thank you for an excellent report - that makes me even madder than I was before about the war and the way we chose to go to war. I am now even more mad that most of the media so miserably shirked their duty and responsibility to "tell the truth". What can a citizen do to press the media - especially TV - to ask, and keep asking the tough questions until they are honestly satisfied themselves that they are reporting the truth? I pick on TV because I know there are many young people (under 40) who only get their news from TV and the web. I greatly appreciate your reporting, but I do not recall that much of what the two featured Knight Ridder reporters wrote made it to the front page of our local Knight Ridder paper - The Charlotte Observer. How can we hold/ encourage/make/etc. journalist seek a truth that they believe as individual contientious reporters? How can we impact their corporate superiors to allow and support their reporters in their quest for truth? I want the unvarnished truth - good, bad or indifferent. I thought that is what good reporting was supposed to be about...

Posted by: John Highfill | April 26, 2007 11:13 AM

That's the how, what about the why? In 2002 I knew the rationale for war was a pack of lies. The war protesters saw through Colin Powell's UN speech, and all the other transparent pro-war propaganda. Let's talk about the question Moyers never even raised: Why did the war happen? James Bamford was on the show. He has a theory, explained in his book. His book was featured, but not his theory. Bamford says we went to war for Israel. He makes a good case. Worth a look, maybe? The connection between the neo-Cons and Zionism is both undeniable and unmentionable. Michael Klare, not on the show, says we did it for the oil: "Blood for Oil." Pretty obvious on the face of it. I don't remember hearing the word "oil" on the Moyers show. A third explanation is what I call "Legionnaires' Disease," the tendency for a wartime president to have dictatorial power, and hence the temptation to create a war to get that power. This was covered indirectly, but America's love of war, which makes it possible, was not. If the country has had enough peace, and is ready for the next war, the lies that get...

Posted by: Howard Morland | April 26, 2007 11:12 AM

Moyers had one glaring error in the program. He fell for a media-perpetuated lie himself, when he stated that the UN inspectors were ejected from Iraq by Saddam in 1998. They were actually removed at the request of Clinton for their protection from his December 1998 bombing of Iraq.

Posted by: Paul Donahue | April 26, 2007 10:51 AM

What a great show.

Posted by: Amanda | April 26, 2007 10:46 AM

For folks asking "why" this whole thing was pulled: Look at this story about a defense contractor, David L. Brooks, who threw a $10 million Bat Mitzvah for his daughter in 2005 with Aerosmith, Don Henley, Stevie Nicks, Kenny G, 50 Cent and others performing: http://www.gnn.tv/articles/1915/50_Cent_the_War_Profiteer_and_the_10_million_Bat_Mitzvah http://digg.com/business_finance/Ben_Stein_Digests_Our_Terrifically_Broken_Economy http://www.defamer.com/hollywood/50-cent/multiple-bullet-wounds-hold-spoiled-jewish-girls-in-rapture-140134.php There is BIG MONEY in WAR folks ...

Posted by: Kevin | April 26, 2007 10:44 AM

Thanks for exposing the salivating neocons and the pliant press in the period between 9-11 and the start of Bush's war. Tim Russert is a Republican megaphone, and "Meet the Press" is really "Meet the Russert." Russert tried to blame others for his lazy reporting of questionable pre-war intelligence. During he show, he even blamed the public for NOT making his phone ring. Excuse us: You're the reporter. Why didn't you pick up the phone, call your mid-level sources and report on their doubts instead of being spoon-fed by Cheney? Glad Bill Moyers is back on PBS. Really glad.

Posted by: RD | April 26, 2007 10:42 AM

A very nice job. But there's another story that's getting exactly the same treatment: Global Warming. Iraq War skeptics were branded unpatriotic and couldn't get ink. Global warming skeptics are labeled stupid, and they can't get ink either. Like the Iraq War, if you dig beneath the surface, the claims don't make sense, and there is hardly a consensus on the anthropogenic causes of global warming. But try finding any of that in the media. It's not there. People belive in Global Warming because they want to believe in it, just like people believed Saddam Hussein was behind 9/11 because they wanted to believe that. As H.L. Menken noted almost a century ago, "There is always a well-known solution to every human problem--neat, plausible, and wrong. Mr. Moyers, where were you five years ago, when the Iraq War fraud was being perpetrated? And will you similalry wait until a time when it is safe to investigate The Selling of Global Warming?

Posted by: David | April 26, 2007 10:39 AM

Before Bush Sr., Iraq had one of the highest standards of living in the world - higher than that of the USA. Every citizen received FREE health care, education (including university) and there were no taxes. Now the people have no or little food, electricity or running water, functional hospitals or schools. GOD BLESS AMERICA for bringing democracy to Iraq.

Posted by: M Zaki | April 26, 2007 10:37 AM

Like a surprisingly tiny fraction of all the commenters, I am wondering why -- if you could do the expose that you just did -- why you can't cover the evidence of official complicity in 9/11? There is a mountain of it, as you certainly should know by now. Do you really want to go down in history as being "not as bad as most of the mass media"? We're about to go to war with Iran, unless the military disobeys (as it should). Aren't you participating in an even worse example of the same kind of cover-up as with Iraq, by being silent about the 9/11 evidence? Here's the tip of the iceberg, with NO DOUBT about the facts (unlike with WMDs): - Dozens of specific warnings that were ignored, and FBI field requests for investigations quashed by Washington superiors - No response to the excessive put options the week before on AA, United and other affected companies, which are watched in real time by the national security apparatus - Total violations of standard operating procedure in hijackings - Three different stories told by the Pentagon as to why no interceptions - $ Millions in hush money to the...

Posted by: Gregg Roberts | April 26, 2007 10:35 AM

I would like to commend you on such a fine piece of journalism. Hopefully, this report will stimulate and encourage a re-evaluation on the part of all legitimate media agencies of their mission as important agents in the system of checks and balances that sustain any democracy to prevent such a chronic case of reporting laziness and complicity with ill-conceived government policies and plans from happening in the future. I believe that most TV networks in North America have cynically morphed from journalistic entities into entertainment tabloids that have lost sight of the real purpose of their existence. The fact that it was PBS that began the dialogue on this issue is a sign of hope and reinforces again why public broadcasting is so important in a democracy. Thank God for PBS and the CBC in Canada.

Posted by: Claudio Ruiz-Pilarte | April 26, 2007 10:30 AM

Three comments in response to an excellent and long-overdue report: 1) Bill Moyers ought to know about selling ill-conceived warfare. I wish he'd express some regret for the blood on his own hands over Johnson's Vietnam. 2) The reason America swallowed this deception is that Bush/Rove are experts at pandering to the moronic majority. Remember, the average IQ is 100; that means a large number of people are easily fooled. (Madison Ave knows this, which is why TV journalism is so pathetically bad.) 3) As Bush/Rove have now learned, you can't fool all the people forever. Eventually your own hubris will catch up with you. Too bad it had to cost more than $1 trillion and countless lives. What a terrible waste!!! Regards, MTB

Posted by: Michael T. | April 26, 2007 10:27 AM

As usual great reporting. This piece left me with two questions that I hope Bill and his team will be following up on. Why - if the administration knew the information was faulty at best and worked so hard to market the war, what was the real reason behind it. Was it related to the secret energy meetings Cheney held early in the administration. What next - the administration clearly mislead the american public and the world to engage in an unlawful war. What should become of the architects of this disaster? Are they less than war criminals? Shouldn't this be of primamry importance to the media and people that were used and mislead?

Posted by: mark | April 26, 2007 10:26 AM

WHY? Bush said: "After all he is the guy who threatened to kill my dad" Bush wants to be a "War President" Then there is religion: People need someone to trust, someone to talk to who does not look down on them and scold them, so they invented god and his disciples. Religious people need someone. Like Jim Jones, Applewhite, Robertson, Baker, Falwell, Moon, and it is no surprise that the religious right flourishes. They gave them Bush, and people flocked to Bush who listens to a higher father than Bush 41. It is a shame. Religion should be something good for people, but the current leaders are all corrupt, Phelps, Falwell, Robertson, Perkins and all the others who want to make the US into a christian country. They claim that this country was founded on Judeo Christian doctrine, which is huey. They claim that freedom of /from religion gives them the right to diplay their beliefs anywhere they please. The Constitution also provides for my pursuit of happiness. Am I allowed to display my sexual perversions anywhere I choose? People are free to exercise their religion, not ANYWHERE they choose, just ANYHOW they choose, in the appropriate venue.

Posted by: Ron Hohn | April 26, 2007 10:19 AM

Gentlemen, Thanks for your fine reporting and your continued patriotic efforts. It seems clear that much of the reluctance of the main stream media to aggressively question the administration’s case for war was a fear of being perceived as un-patriotic and un-American. In other words the coverage was driven by business decisions; by a fear of losing viewers or readers. Clearly one would hope that a responsible media would serve the public rather than patronize it. But doesn’t the public share some of the responsibility? It would be so much easier for each of us to forgo our own responsibility if we could believe that as a nation we were duped by an administration that had we only known was dishonest (or at the very least misleading) we would have acted differently. We would individually and collectively have no responsibility for the actions of our leaders, we would be absolved. It’s the position the Democrats have taken…..”If I had only known then what I know now, I would not have voted to authorize”, as if that should absolve them of their opposition responsibilities. The truth is for all of us who cared to be reasonably informed and who wanted to...

Posted by: Michael FitzPatrick | April 26, 2007 10:09 AM

How in the world that freak got elected to a second term behind homophobia preached in pulpits I don't know, but, if the bible-thumping folks are crazy enough to elect that clown to a second term, they're crazier than Al Qaeda in my book.... WAY crazier ... I don't really know how we're even still talking about these nuts. They faked the evidence for the war, they outted Plame, they even called Kerry a COWARD for his performance in Vietnam (!!), they've created crazy stories about heroic deaths of our children--when they were killed by our own bullets, etc., etc., etc. They've LIED AT EVERY POSSIBLE TURN TO GET WHAT THEY WANTED. They should have been nothing more than a faint skid mark on the seat of a forgotten pair of the country's underpants by now. What is the problem here?! Arrest these fools, try them for treason and let Pelosi do what she can to put this mess back together and apologize to the rest of the world. WHY would anybody LISTEN to that ADMINISTRATION ANYMORE?!? THEY WILL JUST LIE ABOUT EVERYTHING AND ANTHING. DOES ANYBODY NOT UNDERSTAND THAT?! HAS ANYBODY MISSED THAT ELEMENT OF THEIR M.O? Honestly, what...

Posted by: Kevin | April 26, 2007 10:07 AM

Great Show! Great Reporting. I'm still left with the question of "Why?". The Administration lied, they manipulated intelligence reports, they exaggerated threats, they spun every fact like a top. For What Purpose? Why did they want to go to war with Iraq so badly? Anyone?

Posted by: John | April 26, 2007 10:02 AM

As a graduate of Soviet Studies and International Affairs, I watched in disbelief and dismay as I saw the American administration use the tried and true tactics of dictators to deceive the public. My distress was caused not so much by the behaviour of the administration, but by the fact that Americans swallowed the propaganda they were fed without question and vilified anyone who dared suggest that perhaps what they were hearing might not be the truth. If, in the 21st century, with all the technology available to people and with, supposedly, the benefit of history to teach us, people are still willing to turn over their brains to 'authority' and refuse to question people in power, I fear humans will never get any smarter. What do you think is needed to educate people about the dangers of putting their faith in politicians? Is the lack of international affairs reporting and education the reason nobody noticed that Bush & Co. were using some of the favourite strategies of the worst dictators to deceive the public into turning over their faith and their children to support a reprehensible action? When people resort to arguments like 'un-American' to cow and shame and...

Posted by: Glenda Robertson | April 26, 2007 10:01 AM

I am thrilled to have Bill Moyers back with some honest reporting. THANKS!! My questions: 1)It was great to see the lies presented so clearly. What I really want to know is why?? Why do they want so badly to go into Iraq, to let so many of our brave soldiers die ..for what reasons?? Does anyone know these people well enough to get the true story of why they set up this lie of manipulation? I would like to see a complete program on this issue. I do not want to wait for the books on this 10 years from now. 2) Are not their lies like Watergate or worse - since this cost so many lives? And, if so, then is this not cause for impeachment - same fate as Nixon? 3) Why do so many people seem to lie for the Bush administration, then they are caught in the lies but the administration does not take responsibility? The Bush administration seems to ruined the reputation of so many people - yet these people continue to lie for him/them. 4) The way the Bush administration makes decisions - using dishonesty & manipulation - is like a dictatorship. Yet...

Posted by: Kimberly Roush | April 26, 2007 9:53 AM

Thanks for a great documentary on the complicity of the press in the Iraq war. But they are still doing it! In today's Washington Post David Broder chastises Rep. Harry Reid for saying that the Iraq war is lost, something most Americans recognize. In addition, the U.N. report that says the "surge" has failed, issued yesterday, is reported far into the first section and, in fact, ignores that part of the report and concentrates on the human rights violations in Irag that were a less important part of the report. More than ever, it is imperative that the American people be informed and vigilant. We can no longer count on the corporate press to keep us informed.

Posted by: Frankie | April 26, 2007 9:51 AM

Students of history will realize that the majority ALWAYS wins. When the USA becomes unwilling or unable to help Israel, the Palestinians will finally get their home back. The USA is often the only supporter of Israel as can be seen whenever there is a UN resolution against Israel. The USA is just delaying the inevitable. For those Christian zionists who believe that killing Arabs and suppressing/occupying people is acceptable so that Jesus can return, they are more delusional than the Jew zionist in Israel (who are keeping dual citizenships) thinking that when Israel is returned to the Palestinians, Americans will actually allow them to move to the USA. Jesus preached peace, Bush and the zionists spread war and oppression - they'd be the most surprised and dismayed if Jesus was to return.

Posted by: M Zaki | April 26, 2007 9:50 AM

Before You Comment - Read About The Upcoming Assignment Of DC's New Duo. It is the most damaging story to the Bush adminstration that only The Lone Star Iconoclast, a newspaper just outside W's ranch in Crawford, TX, had the courage to put it in print. The story needs the talent, contacts, sources, and resources of this new team that Mr. Moyers so brilliantly put forth. The title of the story is "Is it high treason or just a simple case of dereliction of duty?" You can reach the story by clicking my name below or this link http://www.lonestaricon.com/absolutenm/anmviewer.asp?a=1043&z=103 I am sure you are all with me in wishing this new team the best of luck.

Posted by: Maher Osseiran | April 26, 2007 9:49 AM

Well Well. PBS has resurected the old Anarchist, Moyer to whine about Irag & Republicans. He is irrelevant & so is the hit piece. As a taxpayer paying for this, over at the home of "Limosine liberals",I demand equal time for a Republican Response to this foolishness, brought to us by Mr moyers & his Texas buddy Dan, I'd rather not! BEPR

Posted by: be roddy | April 26, 2007 9:49 AM

After watching the program, I have some questions: 1. How can Bill Moyers use Dan Rather as a source after he retired in disgrace after using forged documents in attempt to swing the 2004 election? 2. How can Phil Donahue complain about being taken off the air when his ratings were so bad? Was it George Bush's fault he lost his daytime show years ago? How about the love fest show he had with the Soviet 'journalist' in the 1980s? Phil's 15 minutes ended in about 1978. 3. Why wasn't Scott Ritter's used more? Could it be that this personal life is, how do you say, controversial? I won't go into detail. 4. Do any of you actually believe that the O'Reilly Factor is more influential than the New York Times? I don't remember their cheerleading about going to war. 5. Why did Moyers' leave out the 23 reasons to invade Iraq that the Bush Administration brought to Congress? I was not just WMD. He ignored the twelve years of the real run-up to the war, including the Clinton era's law for regime change. What remains is that this was taxpayer left wing propaganda

Posted by: Rob Schwartz | April 26, 2007 9:47 AM

Many answers, to so many of the questions and even more questions not posted here, can be found in Richard Heinberg's book "Powerdown". As for those who have their doubts to the validity of this program "Selling the War", answers to your questions are also in that book. The worst thing about the book is that not everyone is reading it. It is not a good bedtime story, but does have a realistic plan to save what is left of this society. When will this truth be told and accepted?

Posted by: Larry S., Kentucky | April 26, 2007 9:45 AM

Since my post was not printed when sent last night after the broadcast, I repeat: God bless you Bill Moyer, for your courage in exposing the cabal that initiated the preemptive invasion of a sovereign nation, kill its leader and sons. There will be some raised blood pressures Thursday morning!

Posted by: Joan Lemley` | April 26, 2007 9:42 AM

I cannot help but comment on the apparent justification that Clay Cralle posted. Sadam Hussain could have been taken care of in other ways. What makes Clay think that America is the supreme ruler of the world? Hussain was busy feathering his nest. Yes he was brutal to the Kurds and he squelched rebelion. That is no justification to destroy the country, we simply do not have that right or authority. We have done much more harm than good. If Canadians were assulting the government in the US do you not think US would retaliate in kind. Wake up. Democracy and liberation are a farse that this county will pay for in generations to come. You don't have the right to obligate my childrens children just to impose your will. I'm offended when lies are OK and this war is compared to WWII. Lets have continued debate Clay here and now. Toby S.

Posted by: Toby S. | April 26, 2007 9:38 AM

This documentary sure shows how the press was incahoots with the administration and accepted its lies! http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat/allcomments?pid=189752&rpg=3#pid190231

Posted by: Pat Hope | April 26, 2007 9:17 AM

I find it ironic that people who defend their country against an occupying army are labeled "terrorists". American history is full of "terrorists" who fought the British for their independence. Also why is it that when an American says, "Give me liberty or give me death", he's a patriot and a hero, but when other people feel that way they're suicidal terrorists? Before many Iraqis die, I'm sure they also say "I regret I have but one life to give for my country". Nelson Mandela was also a "terrorist" for fighting an oppressive, racist regime. I initially blamed Bush and Blair for the atrocities and murders in Iraq, but when their people re-elected them after seeing what was being done, I realized that the majority of the American and British are either racists, stupid or indifferent - they have blood on their hands too.

Posted by: M Zaki | April 26, 2007 9:14 AM

bill crystal cha llenged bill moyer to a debate on cspans washington journal this morning

Posted by: carol | April 26, 2007 9:13 AM

Thanks for your great, skeptical journalism (not just "reporting"). We used to read your stories in The Philadelphia Inquirer, when it was part of Knight-Ridder, but since being sold to a local real-estate developer they mainly rely on the wire services for national news. The two of you remind me of I.F. Stone; I'm currently reading Myra MacPherson's recent biography of him, "All Governments Lie!". Like you, he also questioned the stories that were spoonfed to the press corps, and did his own independent research and digging. His columns at the time on the Korean War were either ignored or ridiculed, but eventually proved prescient, like yours on the Iraq War buildup. On the one hand, it's depressing that we are just as ill-served by the media as we were 50 years ago. On the other hand, it's encouraging that we still produce journalists like you, and Bill Moyers, and Amy Goodman, who, in the spirit of Stone, try to do more. What suggestions do you have for enabling more true reporting to help lift the fog from the government's spin machine?

Posted by: Bob McMahon | April 26, 2007 9:10 AM

Why could Bill Moyers make a documentary about the Iraq War without mentioning AIPAC, the Jewish neocons and the Christian Zionists? It was AIPAC, the Israeli Intelligence, and the Jewish Zionists in the administraion who were primarily responsible for feeding false intelligence to our government leaders. The Zionist cabal used the ignorant Christian-Zionist masses as accomplices. Why would Bill neglect any mention of these facts? Fear of the Jews is still a powerful motive dominating the American media and Washington.

Posted by: Bette | April 26, 2007 9:09 AM

Thank you very much for yesterday’s documentary. One issue that was not discussed on the program was the role and influence of the foreign media. Did/do American journals read the front pages of Canadian and British papers? This might be effective in counteracting group think the next time. Best regards, Sean

Posted by: Sean Tucker | April 26, 2007 9:07 AM

Why hasn't anyone publicly come out and said who owns the Washington Post and New York Times and where their loyalties lie.....ie. pro-Israeli. That's what this was truly all about...America sacrificing their boys and girls so Israel can stay top dog....Its a shame how everyone was manipulated into this....Watch the same thing happen with Iran

Posted by: Ali Khwaja | April 26, 2007 9:07 AM

Although web sites like cursor.org have been following this story daily, for years, it's good to see it reported on PBS.

Posted by: Leon Despair | April 26, 2007 9:04 AM

Great story! Perhaps one of your next episodes can focus on how every US administration finds some excuse to bomb some other country - usually in the Middle East. Little wonder many countries now feel that they'll have no security from US WMD until they get their own nuclear weapons - it worked for the USSR, China, India, Pakistan and North Korea. If Iraq had nuclear weapons, the USA wouldn't have been able to kill so many of her people, destroy the country and put their own corporations in charge of Iraqi oil. Bush is a monster for being responsible for the deaths of over 150 000 Iragis since the occupation began, but when Madelaine Albright (another zionist Jew) was asked if it was acceptable that more than 500 000 Iraqi children have died from lack of food and medicine under Clinton's sanctions, she said "Yes!" The USA Government is the largest and most dangerous terrorist organization in the world and US policy is doing more to spread "terrorism" than any other organization's policies.

Posted by: M Zaki | April 26, 2007 9:00 AM

I hope Marvin Kalb sees your doc. He was in Canada the other day on TV Ontario bragging that American journalists are beacons of professionalism to the rest of the world. Now I don't mind when Muhammad Ali says he is the greatest because I think he might have a point there but Kalbs arrogance was excruciating to watch!

Posted by: Michael M. Carr | April 26, 2007 9:00 AM

Iraq War longer than it took to defeat Germany? That war was fought in an era when there were fewer restrictions on how this country would fight a war. Germany was DEMOLISHED.... there was much less regard for collateral damage (civilians and infrastructure). Further, at that time we were at war with an entire country, it's government and it's citizens. With Iraq, our enemy was only the leaders of the government. Our goal was to free the citizens of a tyrannical leader and his cronies. Now our battle is against terrorists, thugs, criminals, organized crime and opportunists. Just before the war Saddam emptied his prisons. Imagine what the U.S. would be like if we suddenly opened the gates to every prison. Then add the chaos of one of the most corrupt governments on Earth being ousted. It's ironic how biased and one sided this report was considering it was supposedly reporting about biased reporting. I heard a historian say once, and I completely agree, that the problem with history is that it's not possible to know where the paths that were not taken would have led. I'd like to see reporting and / or posts commenting on where people think...

Posted by: Clay Cralle | April 26, 2007 8:50 AM

Bill, What?! - You make a show about our sold-out politicians, sold-out media and the intimidation of journalists, reporters and our elected officials... AND NO MENTION OF *AIPAC???! (American Israeli Public Affairs Committee) -- A you serious??? -- Sorry buddy, you to are a sell out. Do you think things will change or get better by keeping that dangerous and disgraceful organization around??? WHY DO YOU PROTECT THEM? (Lying by OMISSION)... sigh...

Posted by: Michael M. | April 26, 2007 8:50 AM

The program raises the question, if the press got the important story of going to war wrong, what else have they gotten wrong? As long as the press is coming clean will Bill Moyer's ask Walter Pincus what he witnessed on the evening of July 20, 1993? Will the Knight Ridder reporters interview Patrick Knowlton and assistant U.S. attorney Miquel Rodriguez? Thank you, Thomas

Posted by: Thomas | April 26, 2007 8:48 AM

This was a great report about what went wrong with our news reporting! Thanks for presenting it and thanks for those two great reporters for doing their job the old fashioned way. I hope the story becomes more widely understood by the American public. However, without any big corporation "pushing" the story (because it is in very few peoples' financial interest to "push" it), the story will not get the circulation that it deserves. It is clear that the Bush administration has once again demonstrated the effectiveness of the "big lie" theory. Thanks again for your great work. Craig Stickler

Posted by: Craig Stickler | April 26, 2007 8:48 AM

This was a great report about what went wrong with our news reporting! Thanks for presenting it and thanks for those two great reporters for doing their job the old fashioned way. I hope the story becomes more widely understood by the American public. However, without any big corporation "pushing" the story (because it is in very few peoples' financial interest to "push" it), the story will not get the circulation that it deserves. It is clear that the Bush administration has once again demonstrated the effectiveness of the "big lie" theory. Thanks again for your great work. Craig Stickler

Posted by: Craig Stickler | April 26, 2007 8:46 AM

The silver lining here is that now even more of the US public sees the mainstream media for the propaganda tools that they are. This is not a new role for them, simply one that has increased over time. The difference today is that the US has reached such an advanced stage of imperialism that their role can no longer be hidden from all but the most inobservant. I look forward to more loyal dissent from Moyers, McClatchy, et al, but I have no illusions that they will express truly oppositional views. For that we must look to the independent voices on the internet.

Posted by: Charlie | April 26, 2007 8:41 AM

Why didn't we all scream at the top of our lungs? We we too busy worrying about being a consumer... getting the hottest new purse and shoes to match, buying the newest video game from Wal*Mart, playing our weekly games of golf! Were we so busy being consumers that we missed all the warning signs! I feel so guilty for not realizing the warning signs and believing the crap Bush and his cronies fed us every day. As a college student at the time, it was hard to discern fact from fiction when the NYT was pushing the propaganda and encouraging everyone to jump on the bandwagon. Even my professors swore by that paper. Is it cliche to say we'll "never forget" or that we'll learn from our mistakes? Thank you for your efforts. You left a paper trail to prove that not every American was brain dead for the past six years. Thanks also to Bill Moyers for daring to be different and document one of the darkest times in U.S. history. By the way, Donuhue wasn't the only journalist to get a pink slip for being "different." Bill Maher also got the ax when he said something...

Posted by: Galena M. | April 26, 2007 8:41 AM

Thank you for your dedication. There were people around the country who were scratching their heads and saying "Wait a minute." You were not alone in your assessment of the governments approach to Iraq. Thousands of people demonstated in D.C. during the re-election. See the documentary After Shock. Thank you again and again for being out there fighting the tide and taking a stand. You speak for many many more than you know. nora

Posted by: Nora Hooper | April 26, 2007 8:40 AM

Bill, Thank you for delivering a thought provoking message. I also believe this should be rerun on primetime. It is one of the most important messages for all Americans. I believe when those who buy our media outlets (newspapers, TV and radio) there needs to be oversight. These our means by which most get their news. If people in power use the media to sell a product or a position, it should be known to the viewer, listener or reader. For example, like they do with infomercials. Leaking information to the press and then coming on "Meet the Press" and quoting the newspaper story is a planned attempt to mislead the people. It's dirty and underhanded. Scheming like criminals to steal something. Using fear is also a tool in the GOP and the Bush Administration. Guiliani tried using that in a speech the other day. He said basically Americans would be in for more terrorism under Democrats. Well, let's see...who was in leadership when 9/11 happened...it wasn't the Democrats. Keith Obermann called him on it last night on Countdown. I recommend folks read his statement for themselves. It's time to stand up to bullies and those who want to use...

Posted by: Jan K. | April 26, 2007 8:40 AM

Thank you for a very important program. Ever since reading A.J. Liebling's "The Press" in high school, I've been impressed with the urgent need for an independent press in our democracy. As others have said, it was clear from 2002 on, when many of us had read what Scott Ritter and the UN inspectors had to say about WMD, that prominent news outlets in this country were colluding with the Bush administration and that we'd go to war on the basis of propaganda. It's heartening to know that you at Knight-Ridder were doing the real work of looking for evidence. I agree with others, though, that the laziness and lack of attention to Bush's claims about other matters were evident before Iraq. I too would point to the high-fallutin claims of Bush's education record in Texas. I'm one of many who know that high test scores and low dropout rates were fabricated for political ends, yet questioning of these claims came late in the game, and now we have a national education law - "No Child Left Behind" - that is largely modeled on Bush's education law in Texas. We have yet to see the full fall out from this...

Posted by: AEW | April 26, 2007 8:38 AM

Bill, Jonathan and Warren, Thank you so much for last nights show. It is very encouraging to know that there were people out there who were asking the right questions, it is also a relief to me to know I wasn't losing my mind, the Emperor really wasn't wearing any clothes. When will you start a piece that exams the Mental Status of the current administration including those who have already jumped ship. No one doubts that Seung-Hui Cho was mentally ill for his harrassment and then murder of 33 innocents. How could anyone not question the mental status of people who lie repeatedly, show no regard for human life and place there agenda above all others?

Posted by: John S. | April 26, 2007 8:35 AM

Oustanding! Great program! Thanks for shining the light on an otherwise dark period in the history of this country. Great reporting! Congratulations to the Knight Ridder folks for not "drinking the Kook Aid"! Renews my faith in Public Broadcasting.

Posted by: B Cotton | April 26, 2007 8:32 AM

Dear Mr. Landay and Mr. Strobel, I’ve never seen a busier blog, ever. No doubt you’re overwhelmed with all the comments, as am I. The server was so busy that I finally gave up trying to post my comment last night after 3 hours of constant activity. Exemplary credit goes to each and every person who helped in this project! It’s amazing what the truth does to people. At this point in the thread I guess I’m only echoing the same sentiment of many others. Here is my comment and question: I was MORTIFIED to hear Walter Pinkus of the Washington Post recall that 1981 was when the press allowed the Dems to take over THEIR truth seeking responsibilities. Shouldn't you guys and every other journalist be SHOUTING from every rooftop EVERY DAY AND NIGHT, FROM THIS POINT ON, in order to sort out what has become a puzzle, wrapped in a riddle, rolled up in an enigma? Shouldn't we declare this a public emergency right away?! Won’t things only get worse if this nightmare continues to be even slightly downplayed? I stress the importance of this because we’re talking about trying to peel off the layers of a two...

Posted by: Albert E. | April 26, 2007 8:18 AM

What was easy to see, between 9/11 and the beginning of the Iraq War, was White House spin. Most media was eagerly adding to the spin. Spin doesn't look like or smell like truth. I don't like to hear the excuse, "I didn't know then". I think most of us knew then ... that pro-war fever had overtaken television. Of course, it is terribly important to have facts, too. Thanks you, Jonathan Landay and Warren Strobel, for finding those facts!

Posted by: Richard Brownscombe | April 26, 2007 8:18 AM

I'm glad to see that Journalism is not dead and that reporting is still happening. I look forward to more great inspiring and educational programing. In regards to "Buying the war" I wish our Congress could take a lesson on how Propaganda works and how easily it can convince you to Buy a soda or buy a car or buy the lies of an administrations hell bent on making money for their corporations. I look forward to more of Bill Moyers and wish you all the luck.

Posted by: Jonathan Wells | April 26, 2007 8:15 AM

The integrity and tenacity of your instincts, intellect and reporting are an inspiration and the truest form of patriotism. The fact that it has taken all these years for this story to be told nationally is simply criminal. While there were journalistic pieces that reinforced the cautious suspicions many of us had about making war on Iraq, they were few and far between. Media giantism and the corporate imperative which mandated news programs be profitable were the death knell for the free press. How sad to see Dan Rather's forced transformation from a journalist to a capitalist with only the best of intentions. I am reminded of the words of Joseph Pulitzer which can be found on www.pulitzer.org: "In May 1904, writing in The North American Review in support of his proposal for the founding of a school of journalism, Pulitzer summarized his credo: "Our Republic and its press will rise or fall together. An able, disinterested, public-spirited press, with trained intelligence to know the right and courage to do it, can preserve that public virtue without which popular government is a sham and a mockery. A cynical, mercenary, demagogic press will produce in time a people as base as...

Posted by: Kathleen Cunningham | April 26, 2007 8:13 AM

Mr. Moyers, I wanted to extend my deeply felt appreciation for everything you do for our country. Mr. Landry and Mr. Strobel are exceptional journalists. I admire that they kept digging for the facts while others were being intimidated and called 'unpatriotic'. Those who buckled under the intense pressure of the GOP propaganda should not feel shame...they should feel the outrage that the rest of us feel for this betrayal of our great nation. Please continue your great works.

Posted by: PB Brown | April 26, 2007 8:10 AM

Thank you Bill Moyers and all who produced this enlightening ninety minutes of superb television. I look forward to watching your new series every week. Since our government and its enablers, the lapdog press, used fear and lies and threats to achieve a political goal, spilling much American blood in the pursuit of power, does that not make them terrorists? As millions of well-meaning, patriotic Americans wake up to the ugly realities we face today they may ask themselves: How could I have been so deceived?. This program is their answer. I have noticed for some time (and increasing post Imus) there has been an visable fear running through the worst of right wing pundits. One example is the attacks on the watchdog website Media Matters. So welcome back to the fray. Looks like alot of people want to hear what you want to say. Thanks for everything you do.

Posted by: Addie | April 26, 2007 8:08 AM

The way the media handled the whole thing reminds me of the power of hysteria in "The Crucible" or even the feckless nature of opponents of Joe McCarthy. This was brilliant reporting; I relished every minute of the restrained and accurate journalism, especially since, in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, the superpatriots still seem to intimidate most of us. Keep up the good work! You guys are my heroes.

Posted by: Terence O'Connell | April 26, 2007 8:04 AM

Thank you so much for sticking with it and doing real reporting. My husband and I have been following this since the summer before we invaded. We noticed that international newspapers (asian) were beginning to speculate that the US was planning to invade Iraq at least 3-6 months before Bush's announcement. Friends in India were also proposing this and we were so taken by surprise. How does this work? it makes me feel so naive. and now, were they trying to build a similar case for Iran?

Posted by: Monisha Mittal | April 26, 2007 7:58 AM

A thank you to reporters who asked the tough questions and dug for answers. It was shocking to see Tom Brokaw, Dan Rather and other TV news bigwigs put on army jackets and rush to the desert for great video backdrops and puff pieces with generals and the troops. Brokaw in particular displayed unseemly, wide-eyed eagerness to please as he interviewed top military & government officials. Since any administration has the power to refuse to answer a reporter's questions, possibly causing the loss of posting to Washington or even a job, doesn't the White House press corps generally just parrot the administration line? (I could name names.) Also a THANK YOU to Bill Moyers for his lifetime of service to our country. From service in government in the Johnson days through years of thought-provoking writing and broadcasting on a wide variety of issues, you have aided our understanding of ourselves, our country and our world. It has been a priceless service and you deserve our deepest gratitude. Thank you very much.

Posted by: Mark W. | April 26, 2007 7:55 AM

Thank you for your efforts. They did not go unnoticed. I remember reading many of your stories and wondering the very same thing. Two important points I wish this documentary addressed. 1. In the documentary, Mr. Moyers talks about the UN Inspectors leaving Iraq in 1998. His wording seemed to reflect the "conventional wisdom" pressed hard by neo-conservatives that Saddam kicked the inspectors out, which was not the case at all. In fact, it was President Clinton who ordered them out after the Americans were discovered to be spying on Iraq. I wonder why this bit of information was not disclosed in this documentary. It shows that this failure on the part of the media was certainly around from even before 9/11. 2. Colin Powell stated in February 2001 in a press conference with the Egyptian foreign minister that sanctions in Iraq worked and that Saddam was not really a threat. His own words: We had a good discussion, the Foreign Minister and I and the President and I, had a good discussion about the nature of the sanctions — the fact that the sanctions exist — not for the purpose of hurting the Iraqi people, but for the purpose...

Posted by: Dan | April 26, 2007 7:53 AM

20/20 hindsight ?? "Another " ??? attack by that madman ?? Do you still think Saddam attacked the US ... ?? Ever ??? Either you are one of the early risers out of the Karl Rove hit machine -- or you have bought the big lie that even Dick Cheney is still telling today, that there was some link between Iraq and 9/11 ...

Posted by: Rick Snider | April 26, 2007 7:52 AM

Mr. Landry and Mr. Strobel- Kudos to you both (and to Mr. Moyers)! Please accept my grateful thanks for your distinguished efforts to seek out and tell the truth to your readers during our nation's run up to this long, deadly and shameful war. You both deserve the Presidential Medal for Freedom, NOT William Safire. I cannot fully articulate my personal anger nor my crushed spirit of citizenship as a result of the lies and deceptions of both this administration and the abetting hand of most of the American corporate media in creating this unprovoked and futile war. I am a high school English teacher. One of my classes focuses on the media--Media Literacy. What advice might you offer me and my 17 year-old students--or any news consumers--as we try to sort through the thicket of misinformation, disinformation, and propaganda that seems to be at the heart of much of today's news? Thank you again for the honor you have shone on your profession. Please keep telling us the truth. Richard Kuhnen, an American Citizen

Posted by: Richard Kuhnen | April 26, 2007 7:48 AM

I am profoundly grateful for your courage. Separating from the "pack" is one or the hardest things for any human being to do. This program, and your commitment to truth, renew my hope in the possibility of democracy for our country. Frances Moore Lappe

Posted by: Frances Moore Lappe | April 26, 2007 7:47 AM

After watching tonight's show, I remembered my own feelings, and opinions and observations of the run-up to the war. It reminded me of all the anger I experienced, the feelings of helplessness, and disbelief while I watched the administration spin their lies. That was when I felt we could still change the world. If we all stayed informed of each day's events surely the truth would win, hands down. But, the truth didn't win. The lies won so I turned away, the damage was done. It was too late to sing out what was true about Iraq. Tonight I realized, it's not too late. I can see that the world is a different place from where we were in 2002. Surely Karl Rove, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Condi Rice, and their minnions and believers have no real place in our future and their legacies look bleaker than ever. Thank you for chronicling this riveting piece of our country's history in such a powerful and indeliable way and being the voice of truth - it was not in vain.

Posted by: Andrea Barol | April 26, 2007 7:47 AM

Mr. Landry and Mr. Strobel- Kudos to you both (and to Mr. Moyers)! Please accept my grateful thanks for your distinguished efforts to seek out and tell the truth to your readers during our nation's run up to this long, deadly and shameful war. You both deserve the Presidential Medal for Freedom, NOT William Safire. I cannot fully articulate my personal anger nor my crushed spirit of citizenship as a result of the lies and deceptions of both this administration and the abetting hand of most of the American corporate media in creating this unprovoked and futile war. I am a high school English teacher. One of my classes focuses on the media--Media Literacy. What advice might you offer me and my 17 year-old students--or any news consumers--as we try to sort through the thicket of misinformation, disinformation, and propaganda that seems to be at the heart of much of today's news? Thank you again for the honor you have shone on your profession. Please keep telling us the truth. Richard Kuhnen, an American Citizen

Posted by: Richard Kuhnen | April 26, 2007 7:44 AM

This was an excellent documentary. But the reason the press was docile happened a long time ago. Mr. Moyers? http://karws.gso.uri.edu/JFK/the_critics/griffith/Press_and_assassinatio n.html THE PRESS AND THE JFK ASSASSINATION If any large element of our news industry, such as NEWSWEEK, or NBC, or CNN, for example, decided to conduct a thorough, objective review of the JFK assassination, significant and historic progress could be made in the case. The single-bullet theory could be disposed of in relatively short order. At least some of the photographic evidence could be properly examined. The acoustical evidence could be thoroughly evaluated. Many of the numerous surviving witnesses could be interviewed. Previous interviews with important witnesses could be analyzed with voice stress analysis. Credible leads developed by private researchers could be pursued. The unlikelihood of the theory that Oswald fired all the shots could be further established. The specious stories of several surviving members of the Dallas Police Department could be subjected to the scrutiny and analysis with which they should have been examined long ago. In fact, ALL of these things could have been done years ago, and the network or newspaper that did it would have had an historic, major news scoop, a scoop worth millions...

Posted by: rese questioner | April 26, 2007 7:42 AM

I believe responsibility can be shared even down to the local level. We let lies be portraid as truth at all levels of government. Putting pressure on local media to report fabrications or injustice needs to be every honest citizens' responsibility. We reap what we sow. Are we really any better than them if we allow serial lies in our own community? Bill, this show needs to be rerun in prime time. Don't let them intimidate you...I'm sure they will try.

Posted by: Toby S. | April 26, 2007 7:42 AM

It appears to me that 20/20 hindsight is always better. In 2003 it was safer to go after Saddam than to do nothing an risk another attack by that type of mad dictators.

Posted by: N W Ritz | April 26, 2007 7:39 AM

When I think of the Iraq war, I always harken back to the UN inspectors. When the inspectors, after a vigorous and well done search, failed to find what the Bush administration were claiming as solid evidence, the Bush administration went after their reputation. Now, they could have turned more evidence to the inspectors, but that didn't happen. I knew then something was wrong, despite all the speeches from Bush. Knowing a little history about the Gulf of Tonkin resolution, also added to my skepticism. And although I am not a big Ted Kennedy fan, his speech certainly rang true. I hope that in the future, we as a nation will learn to be more skeptical, especially when dealing ideologues who run the country.

Posted by: Tim | April 26, 2007 7:36 AM

Some where above the question of motive was raised. I have made a fairly detailed study of the oil business over the last year or so and much of this has the smell of petroleum. Note where Bush and Cheney come from.

Posted by: James F. Olmsted | April 26, 2007 7:26 AM

The best part, I thought, was the interview of these two young reporters. I felt proud of them, as if they were my own sons. 9/11 was not the scariest time. The buildup to the Gulf War was the scariest time I ever experienced in America. Until we came to the buildup to invading Iraq. I knew you guys were doing your best. Thank you.

Posted by: Pete | April 26, 2007 7:14 AM

Greg Jackson No trying to knock off 41 isn't an "ACT OF WAR" Did you mention that Saddam attacked U.S. & British forces while we, for over 10 years flew strafing runs and military strikes from the AIR IN IRAQ????? If the situation was reversed.; (I KNOW THIS REQUIRES USING YOUR BRAIN) - If IRAQ & IRAN were running 24-7 sorties over the United States...for more than 10 years, do you think we, you, or I would stand still and not attack them....so don't act like they did something outrageous. We were playing military police from the air over the top 1/3 and bottom 1/3 of the country, in order to protect the Kurds & Shiites that we had promised (under G.H.W.Bush that if they rose up against Saddam, that we would support them) we all but left them to the slaughter. WHY? Because we allowed Saddam to use helicopters ((thanks General Norman S.- in the "Peace Talks" decision Norm made to grant them this right)) Saddam proceeded to use his air firepower to put down the Shiite rebellions that we had promised to help. OOPS! Not as big as Secretary of State Jim Baker (not to be confused with...

Posted by: Brian | April 26, 2007 7:11 AM

I really wish people had looked into this issue the same way Lisa Finnegan did in her book "No Questions Asked : News Coverage Since 9/11". She wrote the book for over 3 years ago when most reporters where either quiet about the subject or were supporting the administration's views. She spend a year to document the failure of the US media and her book is an excellent example of the history of the media coverage since the attacks of 9/11. You can find more information about the book at: http://www.noquestionsasked.org/ Or ask your library to order it: No Questions Asked : News Coverage Since 9/11 by Lisa Finnegan foreword by Norman Solomon ISBN : 0-275-99335-3 /Malcom

Posted by: MalcomTR | April 26, 2007 7:06 AM

Didn't the congressional resolution say something about waiting for the UN inspectors to finish their jobs? I remember seeing them make a mad dash to get out of Iraq the day before the bombings. So...they weren't finished, and I think that should exonerate all the democrats who "voted for" the war.

Posted by: Bonny | April 26, 2007 7:05 AM

Congratulations on putting together this wonderful show. I have sent the link to the online video to several people, and I intend to watch it again myself. I have felt that in these last few years, the media just kind of looked the other way, at the very least, as we were pushed toward this war. As you showed, it was really worse than that as many in the media seemed to join in the effort to move toward war. They were too credulous, and the Administration took advantage of that weakness. I really appreciated your short reference to Sen. Kennedy's opposing view and how it was really given short shrift at the time. I did not know about the Knight-Ridder reporters and their work before seeing your program, so I really feel that I learned something by watching. I teach a US Government course at a community college, and I will definitely use this program in the future with my students. Thank you, Bill Moyers. May you and your blog inspire new thinkers and helpful people on this earth. We need to move beyond this horrible time in our history, but there were many people hurt by this war...

Posted by: Lisa C. | April 26, 2007 7:04 AM

Why were/are so many in Journalism afraid of the Bush regime? Are we under a government of, by and for the corporations? We appreciate knowing that what we sensed was the case back in 2002 and 2003 -that we were being hoodwinked by this administration- was actually the fact of the matter; small consolation today. But now we know there are fact-diggers and fact-reporters still doing their jobs. Turns out, we need to be doing our own research and voicing our beliefs. Freedom is fought for here at home as well. Thank you for the reminder.

Posted by: Art and Meredith Neria | April 26, 2007 7:03 AM

The more I read of history through the ages the more I'm convinced that American Democracy is an anomaly. The history of civilization has predominantly been a story of the strong dominating and exploiting the weak -- a human twist on classic Darwinism. In the natural world the weakest of a species simply doesn't survive. Humanity on the other hand has learned to force its weak to serve the need of the strong to grow stronger. What we're seeing take place in media, politics and corporations is the next chapter in this "evolution". The weak had their day in the sun in America, realizing unprecedented rights in employment, living standards, freedom of speech, and social welfare that drove the strong crazy. Now the strong are fighting back. But instead of using obvious strong-arm tactics like physical slavery they're trying to do it subtly within the institutions we've grown to trust. They're slowly replacing our sources of hard truth with sexier, sensationalistic "news" propagated by pretty personalities like Katy Coric. They hope to seduce us away from caring about uncomfortable truths. In politics the Bushies played the American voters for the fools they surely are, spinning them into submission with fear-mongering...

Posted by: Bill Gore | April 26, 2007 6:50 AM

How is it that even I, with limited political experience, knew this was a terrible idea from the beginning and so many politicians and journalists did not? I wrote to public officials prior to the invasion begging them not to procede. I continue to write begging them to withdraw. What else can we do? 23 photos of dead soldiers on the News Hour last night. So tragic. How can we make this stop????

Posted by: Linda T | April 26, 2007 6:48 AM

How is it that even I, with limited political experience, knew this was a terrible idea from the beginning and so many politicians and journalists did not? I wrote to public officials prior to the invasion begging them not to procede. I continue to write begging them to withdraw. What else can we do? 23 photos of dead soldiers on the News Hour last night. So tragic. How can we make this stop????

Posted by: Linda T | April 26, 2007 6:46 AM

Thank you SO much, Bill Moyers, for returning - and reminding reporters of their jobs. I do hope that (the weak-kneed) executives of TV and newspaper organizations watch and re-watch the show and actually have discussions about it. It is mind-boggling that a nation such as ours can have the press controlled and media executives in fear of their positions. This is America, for goodness sake! Now, hopefully, reporters will take the Knight Ridder model and actually follow the truth, think about it analytically, AND write or report it so that the current and future adminstrations will not continue to undermine our democracy.

Posted by: Vinnie | April 26, 2007 6:44 AM

Thank you for your work. 1. Why was the fact that Powell read a plagiarized document at the UN not front page news and damning to the administration?! That is unbelievable. 2. Was there any reporting about the possible struggles between Sunni and Shia after Saddam's removal? How could this not have been a major discussion in the media? A potential civil war (insurgency/power struggle) must have been discussed in the Pentagon. Would we still have gone ahead if the public knew of the chances? 3. It's not too late for good reporting at this point forward. What do the REAL SOURCES envision as possible outcomes if we stay, or leave Iraq? 4. Being that in hindsight, the current civil war (insurgency) is such an obvious possible result of ousting Saddam, is the chaos in Iraq serving anyone? Could this have been a desired outcome? Or maybe, the government new of this possibility and decided even this worst case outcome was preferable to leaving Saddam in power? What do you think? Personally, I didn't buy the government's sell of connections to Al Quaeda. I thought it was the neocon adgenda from pre 9-11. However, I still got swept up in...

Posted by: Paul L. | April 26, 2007 6:44 AM

Hello, I am 28 and live in Wisconsin. I thoroughly enjoyed this report and am very happy to have been directed to it by a frend. Perhaps the PBS web site can offer us a way to download these? Keep up the good work at any rate, I've bookmarked the location and do plan to return for future broadcasts. Aaron

Posted by: Aaron Mann | April 26, 2007 6:40 AM

Kudos for serious reporting. Yes, I am impressed by your dogged research and jounalistic integrity, yet since there are only two of you, it speaks volumes about the shocking state of mainstream American journalism. I stopped trusting it during the Vietnam war, and have never be given a reason to trust it again. Just look at Central America during the Reagan administration, Iran Contra, and American journalism's always woeful and biased coverage of the Palestinian/ Israeli conflict. I have found it better to read foreign languages and papers to stay informed. On Iraq Juan Cole's blog is invaluable as is listening to Democracy Now! When journalism becomes a megaphone for the rich and powerful, it abdicates its democratic responsibility.

Posted by: Jim Stephens | April 26, 2007 6:39 AM

I was thinking in the extended interview between Mr. Moyers and Mr. Rather, "One lying reporter talking to another lying reporter." Mr. Moyer made much of a 'neo-con' member of the Bush administration leaving the White House for a job in the media as a commentator. Funny, he failed to mention a better known member of the Johnson Administration who left the White House to do exactly the same thing. He failed to mention Mr. Rather's disgrace at destroying his career at CBS while reporting fraudulent lies as the truth. Why should I be surprised? Mr. Moyers began his program with the assertion the Saddam Hussien had never once attacked America. That is a bald face lie! Saddam began violating the cease fire from the first Gulf War almost immediately. Attacking American and coalition forces and allies and attempting to assassinate former President Bush. ALL were acts of war against the United States. Saddam was the subject of dozens of U.N. resolutions passed against him. The last one declaring it was "his final chance." Mr. Bush, unlike many, meant it. Mr. Moyers presentation was pure left propaganda. But then he has been a master of it, ever since that war...

Posted by: Greg Jackson | April 26, 2007 6:37 AM

Dear My American Citizens; I was wrong, I lied, I intended to take us to war, because... Signed, George Walker Bush jr. President of the United States. (I just wanted to make sure that King George COULD, IF HE WANTED TO, begin to revive the Christian tradition of Truth-Telling. I mean he's getting older, and if there is an after life, they have to be stoking the coals in anticipation). SMELLS LIKE CHICKEN-HAWKS WHAT's for DINNER! Hell I'll kick in $2.50 for some starter-lighter fluid! BILL MOYERS; pray that B ush never wants to pin a medal of freedom on him, or we are all in trouble! MOYERS! IN 2008! Fmr. Knight-Ridder guys as initial cabinet appointments. Zabigniew Brazinski...Ralph Nader. Jon Stewart/Bill Maher\Stephen Colbert Secretaries of REALITY!

Posted by: Brian | April 26, 2007 6:37 AM

If Saddam had deliverable WMD's at the time of the invasion, this would have placed Israel at extraordiny risk. Therefore, the Bush administration would have almost certainly discussed its strategic plans with the Israelis prior to the invasion. Doesn't this suggest that both Israel and the Bush administration knew that Saddam did not have WMDs before going to war

Posted by: Cary Stegman | April 26, 2007 6:36 AM

At this point, we should go deeper in the intellectualizing of our awakening concerning the war. If the Bush administration would be willing to falslify data and lie about conditions in Iraq; in order to convince the misinformed american citizenry go to war: is it also feasible, that they planned and carried out the attacks of september 11, 2001?

Posted by: James | April 26, 2007 6:33 AM

I was introduced to Bill Moyers through an interview he did with Robert Bly. Since then, I've enjoyed other interviews and books he's written. I've found him intelligent and thoughtful in his interviews and his willingness to take on topics other shy away from. I'll never forget Bush's ranting about Iraq that sounded like nothing so much as Kruschev (sp?) banging his shoe on the podium at the United Nations. Since then, I've found his entire justification of the war in Iraq to be one lie after another, and it seems to me we've even forgotten what prompted the whole thing in our passion to be right, or proud, or stay the course, or whatever you want to call it. I think we are hearing some truth come out about Bush's war. Welcome back, Bill!

Posted by: A. Carl | April 26, 2007 6:29 AM

I am a high school journalism teacher in south central Pennsylvania (we’re three years in operation now and just picked up our first state awards this year). I have three words posted at the back and front of my classroom: Truthful, Accurate, Fair. I am tempted to subscript beneath them: Landay, Strobel, Walcott. Thank you for thinking beyond public sentiments and private doubts to keep the straight story. It lives only as vividly as those who write it. Long live Knight-Ridder and the best of luck to you! What can high school journalists take from this? Any inspirations or comments I can take to my students?

Posted by: James | April 26, 2007 6:27 AM

I would like for Jonathan or Warren to contact me if they wish. I have well in excess of 500 hrs. research into the events of 9/11 and the path from that day leading to our occupation of the ME. I would like to make these resources available to anyone interested. These resources consist of ~40 GB of data, most of which is available to anyone. I can simply provide my bookmarks to that data or, if requested, copies of it.

Posted by: Larry | April 26, 2007 6:21 AM

Its called follow the leader, and leaders have been conning the peasants since the beginning of time. The techniques have become more complex but the motives are the same. I applaud the efforts of everyone involved in this production and the excellent journalistic skills of the young guys at Knight Ridder. It is peoples like this who do the research, to back up their arguments against powerful leaders that have led to improvements in civilizations, like the Thomas Pane’s of our past. I look forward to watching your future shows.

Posted by: Concrete Man | April 26, 2007 6:13 AM

How can this: "I was somewhat mystified by Tim Russert being on your program because he is nothing more than a Republican and a Republican mouthpiece who should be working for Fox News as shoyld Joe Scarborough, Tucker Carlson, Chris Matthews and Glenn Beck. All birds of a feather who can speak the truth and will never do so." ... and this: "Bill, you, Amy Goodman at democracynow.org, Keith Olbermann, Lou Dobbs and Jack Rafferty and the knight-Ridder/McClatchy News reporters, Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert and Phil Donohue do/did the best work and are the most credible journalists, as was David Halberstam, recently deceased and a loss to all. Although he said no, if we could just get Phil Donohue back America would be much better served." ... be in the same, single posting purporting to call for BALANCE in the media? How is it balance to want one group of reporters of a particular political persuasion banished into Foxland, but, call for more of another group, of another political persuasion? If you want balance, CALL for balance.

Posted by: Don Carr | April 26, 2007 5:58 AM

who took down the towers?

Posted by: greg grainger | April 26, 2007 5:42 AM

been reading your stuff in the Fresno Bee (which we buy for local weather and fish wrap) for some time -- and were amazed at your coverage; in fact, could hardly believe that some fiesty little hole-in-the-wall gang could regularly outgun NYT, WaPo, WSJ and others (which we see each day online) and have begun going online to your Wash Bureau (what's with your odd 'realcities.com' address?) BEFORE WaPo. you guys look younger than we figured -- thought you in Sy Hersh, Murray Waas and Pincus demographics, but here's looking at you - attaboys, sic 'em! We never understood why 80% of folk in this cowtipping county actually went along with bush admin iraq gag - NEVER saw any 'cuban missiles in silos' hard evidence and for last decade everyone knew what neocon weasels said they would do to iraq if they got the chance; oh well. btw - don't let go of that libby-rove-wilson forged yellowcake story too soon; would seem that pulling on this particular string CAN STLL unravel whole web of knowingly deceptive phoney iraq wolf cries. Even if never able to find who actually commissioned forged documents (oh sure, the SISMI; but why and WHO encouraged...

Posted by: ithejury | April 26, 2007 5:36 AM

Dear Bill, I'm glad you are back at PBS on a more permanent but independant basis. Thanks so much for the report you did last night on why the media bought the war. There were two reasons they bought the war, namely they were intimidated by the Bushie Republican Party and it is journalism on the cheap as Dan Rather said. ie. it s=costs money to do real reporting and dig for the facts or at least the inconsistencies and report such. I was somewhat mystified by Tim Russert being on your program because he is nothing more than a Republican and a Republican mouthpiece who should be working for Fox News as shoyld Joe Scarborough, Tucker Carlson, Chris Matthews and Glenn Beck. All birds of a feather who can speak the truth and will never do so. Your report was excellent. I knew before the war that there were no WMDs'because Hans Blix and his team of investigtive scientists said so as did the american team sent there by Bush himself. That was good enough for me. From that time on the rest was all nothing but phoney lies. The intel lies were manufactured by Cheney and John Bolton...

Posted by: Bob DAmico | April 26, 2007 5:36 AM

Jonathan & Warren thank you and Knight Ridder for looking out for us. All odds was stacked against your company but yet your story is being told. Thank you Bill; we can change the direction these neo-cons have taken us.

Posted by: Rick | April 26, 2007 5:23 AM

Thankyou for a wonderful program. I, along with many others who have blogged, opposed the Iraq war from the start. I also recall listening to a Democracy Now broadcast the morning after Colin Powell gave his speech to the UN - and they, in the hour they had, factually refuted every claim that he made! The information, as you said in the show, WAS AVAILABLE. So, again, why did the American media, the 'opposition' in government, and most of the people, buy the case for war? I believe that it was because, for the government in particular, but also for those people who most strongly identified with 'America, right or wrong', it wasn't about facts, it was about 'America Under Attack', as one of the media outlets identified. When a group you identify with strongly is 'Under Attack', you react viscerally - not rationally. And that's where the opposition to the war got it wrong. We should have packaged our message viscerally, we should have recognized that the bias of the population was for 'defense of our primary identity group (America)' and found ways to demonstrate viscerally that war would hurt us.

Posted by: David Pankratz | April 26, 2007 5:13 AM

To: JimT I wore the uniform for 11 years and 2 tours in Viet Nam. I defended in part the freedom of speach. I won't shut up and I won't let you shut anyone up.

Posted by: James Johnson | April 26, 2007 5:13 AM

Thank you for the great piece! Please let these Knight Ridder reporters be the men to bring down these smug ivy punks who have used homophobia, flag waving, religious double talk and every other ancient moral sack of manure in the book to throw $trillions to a small network of military industrialists--while killing scores of Iraqis and Americans along the way. I marched in protest of the war many times--WE WERE NOT AFRAID!!! NBC's military GE ties are somewhat understandable in a stretch, but how in the world was EVERY MEDIA OUTLET terrified of ghosts from the McCarthy era? I never thought I'd hear myself saying this, but I now see EXACTLY how Adolph Hitler was able to murder millions of Jews while a split Germany simply stood around in the corner. If Clinton could be impeached for indiscretions with a consenting female of legal age, shouldn't the entire Bush administration should be executed with broomsticks on the White House lawn for tricking the county into war?

Posted by: Kevin | April 26, 2007 4:52 AM

Had the media done its job, the blogosphere would be nothing more than a big, wonky chat room. The Beltway press should have remembered that politics is their subject, not their profession. The Washington press corps, feared by successive administrations, are now despised -- ugly pets to be kicked into the back room when company shows up. It is no wonder the administration issues platitudes and lies with casual ease. No one in the press stopped them for six years, and it's not for certain that the new Congress can, either. Worse, now too many in the media are long since too compromised to back down; keeping to the talking points is now no longer easy, but necessary for their reputations, their careers and, perhaps for some, even their need to retain legal counsel. It would have been so much better for everyone, for the media to have just done its job. However, perhaps I am being naive. Perhaps we all were. Perhaps, in truth, the media did its job, as the media has done its job in numerous 20th century situations, where what the government said, what the ruling party said, and what the press said were harmonious. But...

Posted by: cskendrick | April 26, 2007 4:49 AM

Thanks for doing this program Mr. Moyers. I hope it makes a difference.

Posted by: Robert Whitlock | April 26, 2007 4:11 AM

Wonderful to have you back Bill. It's especially pleasing to see the results of what real investigative reporting can accomplish in lieu of choir boys and girls singing for the priest. The story behind the story is always the essence of good creditable reporting. Print media should nurture a few new Jack Andersons, Woodward and Bernsteins. Michael Moore tried gallantly, with "Fahrenheit 9/11," to give us reason to question our war involvement. The movie "Why We Fight" also caused many to raise some eyebrows. I thought both of these film efforts sought to get us back to some sound inductive and deductive reasoning. Obviously, neither had the effect on the overall public that I thought they would. Consequently, I am definitely looking forward to your upcoming features. Thanks again for returning to PBS on a regular basis, and giving us the benefit of your experience and insight.

Posted by: Scott | April 26, 2007 4:04 AM

So, what now? We should apologize to Iraq immediately. Write them a check for the damage we caused and leave. But, of course, as an African-American I know we won't do this. This war will forever be a stain on our nation's honor

Posted by: Hannah Valley | April 26, 2007 3:51 AM

I did enjoy the special, and it made a lot of very strong, salient points about the news coverage leading up to the beginning of the Iraq war. And yet, I was also a bit dismayed to see some reporting of mine essentially credited (weirdly enough) to the NY Times. I wrote a series of pieces in 2003 about Phil Donahue's exit from MSNBC, and it was reporting that was way out ahead of the mainstream press. The pieces were referenced in everything from Vanity Fair on down, and the general facts of the articles (which were built around a series of internal memos I had obtained from MSNBC), were mentioned not just in the final version of the film, but in many of the reviews. And yet, imagine my surprise to see the incident described as "memos being leaked to a blogger," while a shot of a NY Times article is shown. Followed by a clip of Donahue mentioning that he first found out about it by reading the NY Times. While that may be true, the entire coverage of the memos by the Times was a mention (in passing) of my reporting and my web site. Now, it's...

Posted by: Rick Ellis | April 26, 2007 3:44 AM

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Posted by: Jim T | April 26, 2007 3:37 AM

I can understand some of the anger directed at the so-called "mainstream media," most of whose members did fail to ask such vitally important questions. But why is there not similar anger directed at the administration? Dan Rather is precisely on pointe: Bush, Powell, Rumsfeld, et al. stood up and lied to the people they were meant to represent. Not only did we, the people, believe their lies, we supported them, and gave Bush & Co. another term.

Posted by: Rich | April 26, 2007 3:32 AM

Bill welcome back!. Gentlemen, John and Warren, nice start. But, there is so much more left to do! You must penetrate the story far enough to uncover the administration's motivation behind the war. You must reveal the conncetion behind the executives in the mainstream media who propagandize news coverage in support of the administration. And, we need your insight into how even in the light of facts about the lies and deception that led us to this point, the House vote over the war appropriations bill can still be so close (218 - 208) suggesting that there is still significant popular support for this travesty. While you have our appreciation for a beginning, you have not yet won back our trust. That will not come until the job is truly done. Regards, Mark Dawes

Posted by: Mark Dawes | April 26, 2007 3:30 AM

IMPEACH! - Why are we not having this discussion?

Posted by: Jessica | April 26, 2007 3:24 AM

Mr. Moyers and Mr. Landay and Mr. Stroebel: Thank you for tonight's much-needed story revealing the role of journalists from the mainstream powerhouses who covered the Iraq War. It demonstrated in great detail the extent of the complicit and direct involvement of reporters who were covering the events leading up to the Iraq War and who were apparently working as an intended or unintended arm of the Bush administration. One question that I have is why did it take so long for this piece to come forward. Could it be that the political winds are slowly shifting so that the press now feels comfortable/safe enough to begin making critiques against the current administration as well as itself? One aspect that came out is how much the press tailors its reporting to not only the administration but also to the leadership/owners of its own papers. Whatever happened to the concept of a free and unbiased press -- the fourth estate increasingly sounds like it reflects the needs and interests of power institutions --corporate leadership and their sponsors, the government hierarchy -- and do not seem to represent the interests of the everyday person, the people that go to war to defend...

Posted by: richard | April 26, 2007 3:23 AM

I talk to a lot of people regularly, and test the water continually (regarding how they feel about social/political affairs, etc.). My sense is: people are disgusted with the present state affairs, are feeling VERY disempowerd by their "leaders" on Capital Hill, and want something VERY different from them- NOW! I really believe we should: abolish the electoral college (after the 2000 election that should have been a top priority, considering it's results), change the 2-party system to something resembling what other European countries are presently doing (multiple "parties"), hold national elections/referendums regularly- as needs be (as, obviously, we should be doing NOW), streamline the government, and take a good look at the Constitution (aka- our bible), and see where it needs improvement, based on life in the modern age, VS. 1776- and take big $$$ out of politics- by the time these guys get into office, they're beholding to so many special interests, they're virtually prostitutes after that- just to start. Also, perhaps we should create a new law that states that if you want to run for president, you can't be allowed (and then we could have a national referendum to come up with some creative ideas of...

Posted by: Dennis M. | April 26, 2007 3:20 AM

Bill & Company - thank you for putting this information out there in a more public forum. More questions linger, however. We feel like "they" have stolen not only our vote and voice, they have stolen our country and are systematically dismantling our constitution and democracy. What blather to keep repeating that our troops are "fighting for our freedom and democracy" while some in our government work to take away basic freedoms such as Habeas Corpus, a woman's right to choose, freedom of speech and even our votes. Could an argument be made that our country is being controlled by a powerful few? Should our concerns lie in the fact that our government/country is being taken over from within? We now have legalized or sanctioned torture, control and manipulation of the news media, private armies such as Blackwater that our government is using (shades of Hitler's SS men?), and the predominance of the blind faith-based, right-wing, religious fanatics and more heinous acts that we don't have the time/space to address here. Where are the checks and balances to prevent the hijacking of our government by the elitist few or special interest groups and the global corporatization of our planet for...

Posted by: Mark & Patrice Copeland | April 26, 2007 3:18 AM

i have been reading these responses with what most of you seem to have also experienced here... optomism. that is untill i realized that sadly like everything else that i see or read that makes sense to me, it is entirely a matter of preaching to the choir. all of the responses i have read have been amazingly eloquent and heartfelt, what seems to be missing is the mean spirited rightwing post. did this show really change anyone's mind?

Posted by: mark pederson | April 26, 2007 3:15 AM

It wasn't Bush, Cheney or Powell that convinced me that war was necessary with Iraq. It was Ted Koppel, Tom Friedman and Wolf Blitzer. I took their reports at face value, looked at their graphics and was convinced by their analyses that Saddam had the capacity to use WMDs against the USA. The Bush administration went to war with Iraq because public opinion allowed it. Pre-war public opinion was shaped by the media. If Bill Moyers wants to make things right, he has the perfect opportunity. The media is now trying to sell us on a new war with Iran--over WMDs! But why do I get the feeling that the media, PBS included, is conditioning me for a "300"-style clash against Iran? Knight Ridder is no more. It will not be around to do any basic fact-checking before the next war. The company was liquidated under the directive of one man, Bruce Sherman, a billionaire financier and ardent supporter of Israel. One man has the power and influence to dissolve a profitable company with a long history and thousands of employees. Funny how that works. Yet somehow the Sulzbergers, Grahams and Bancrofts know how to avoid Tony Ridder's fate. Bill...

Posted by: Leonidas | April 26, 2007 3:07 AM

I too can only shake my head in disbelief at how this generation's Woodward & Bernstein fared in trying to expose this scandal (of far greater magnitude). And also agree that unfortunately, just like the Kennedy assasination, we will never know the truth behind 9/11. If an ordinary Joe like myself knew this war was built on one humongous pack o' lies (thanks in large part to the revelations of one gung ho Republican Marine Scott Ritter), how could all those university trained professionals not have the slightest goddang clue!?!

Posted by: Stan Banos | April 26, 2007 3:05 AM

Article I, Section 9 of the U.S. Constitution says: "The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it." Is the invasion done? Who will tell the prisoners in Guantanamo or those victims of extraordinary rendition? NOTE: The prohibition doesn't say "U.S. Citizens" or only on U.S. soil. It says in the most general terms "The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended..." Folks, that means anywhere, anytime, for anybody. Maybe someone should tell Scalia and his lapdog Thomas...

Posted by: Roy Conant | April 26, 2007 3:05 AM

Thank you Jonathan Landay and Warren Strobel. Back in the mid 1960s, I came to the US to write about US industry with nearly 20 years background in manufacturing in Europe. I became suspicious that investment badly needed by US industry was being diverted to the Vietnam war while the American public was being mislead by highly inaccurate Washington statistics on the age of American industrial equipment. They stated that little investment was needed because US equipment was very new by international standards. I was able to research the figures with the assistance of economist Harold Barger at Columbia and found that Washington was issuing grossly misleading statistics about the age of US industrial equipment. The 1960s, however, despite the war, was a period of great euphoria and I had difficulty getting my findings published, even though Barger allowed me to quote his approval. Few of the readers of this blog will know the McGraw-Hill journal, “American Machinist”. It has published some of America’s most important industrial writing soon after the Civil War. Its editor, the late Anderson Ashburn looked at my findings, commented, ”this must be published” and presented it as a handsome Special Report (‘Can the U.S. stay...

Posted by: Kenneth Hopper | April 26, 2007 3:03 AM

I just want to comment on the irony of this insightful program being hosted by Bill Moyers. Moyers was the press secretary charged with selling the press that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. This was done before Jack Ruby's connection to Oswald had even been investigated. This was done before the FBI had even read the autopsy report to see if it was possible for Oswald to have fired all the shots. Perhaps in future episodes Moyers will be more candid about his own experience in propagating fiction to the Washington Press Corps. The man knows of what he speaks.

Posted by: Pat Speer | April 26, 2007 2:57 AM

Bennie Beaver been dropping too many bennies..

Posted by: Roy Conant | April 26, 2007 2:43 AM

Great reporting except it is a little late... A new topic I wish Mr. Moyers,Mr. Landay & Mr. Strobel would investigate and report on is the truth behind 9/11. The public at large still can't accept the fact that our own government caused, or at the very least facilitated the crimes of 9/11. Until we the people know how far our government has gone to control our collective mind we will remain imprisioned in the illusion of freedom. Please investigate 9/11 and set us free...

Posted by: TwoPatriots | April 26, 2007 2:39 AM

Way back in 2002, I knew the Bush administration was lying about it's reasons to go to war. I knew Iraq had no WMDs. I knew the real reasons why the US went to war in Iraq, namely, the control of world oil resources and the protection of Israel. How did I know all this? Well I simply looked for the facts on the Internet. I was reading newspapers from the the UK, France, China, India, Russia, Israel, Middle East (probably a dozen other countries) and oh yes, one or two sources from the US. The world has changed, the US is not the only game in town. Also, I would rank the american news media as among the worst of the lot!

Posted by: Shawn Bradshaw | April 26, 2007 2:37 AM

Excellent report, Mr. Moyers! One oversight, however. I am always baffled that NBC is not more widely criticized given they are owned by a defense contractor (General Electric, of course). It seems obvious that the profit motive for America going to war could have played a role in the firing of war skeptic Phil Donahue and also in offering their flagship news show, Meet the Press, to VP Cheney in making the strongest (but false) case for war. After all, who is the primary advertiser on Meet the Press? Fellow defense contractor, Boeing! Boeing is literally the partner of General Electric in defense contracting - they buy the engines General Electric makes for military planes. While Fox receives widespread criticism for their ties to the Republican Party (and righly so), why is NBC given a free pass for their more profitable military ties?

Posted by: dustino | April 26, 2007 2:37 AM

"Buying the War?" Where are the voices of those who really "Bought it?" I'm waiting for the day when "Duh!b'ya, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Powell, Perle, Wolfowitz, and company, are tried as war criminals -- Then sent to Iraq for the Iraqi executioners to miscalculate their weight... Now, that is not a happy thought, but a JUST one..

Posted by: Roy Conant | April 26, 2007 2:37 AM

Someone at PBS knew what they were doing when they recently reran "All the President's Men," the 1976 movie dramatizing Woodward and Bernstein's heroics in uncovering the Watergate scandal 25 years ago. Today, thanks to Bill Moyers, we know we had Knight Ridder's Landay and Strobel performing a similar role during the 2002/2003 prewar frenzy. OK, Landay and Strobel's reports were largely ignored by leading papers and TV networks, and they couldn't stop the war from occurring. But, is that so different from what Woodward and Bernstein experienced? Remember, their reports were also ignored by the other news media, for month after grinding month. Richard Nixon won reelection during the course of their reporting. That must have been a low and lonely hour. But, finally the Watergate revelations reached a critical mass and the rest of the 1970s media jumped on the bandwagon, eventually leading to Nixon's resignation in the face of impeachment. Yes, newspapers and networks today are more venal than their 1970s counterparts—as Tom Tomorrow reminds us in his April 17 cartoon http://www.workingforchange.com/comic.cfm?itemid=22246 —but we may yet see the worm turn. Scooter Libby is convicted. Dennis Kucinich has filed articles of impeachment against Vice President Cheney. Nancy Pelosi...

Posted by: Bob K. | April 26, 2007 2:35 AM

What about Helen Thomas? I was disappointed that she got swept away so easily? What is the national media doing to prevent this from happening again? Are they just in awe ?

Posted by: susan | April 26, 2007 2:34 AM

Why did we go to war? Profits

Posted by: summer | April 26, 2007 2:31 AM

It is so good to have Bill Moyers back on the air! I literally cried when he left, knowing that one of the best had gone. Welcome back, Bill! We missed you!

Posted by: Phoenix | April 26, 2007 2:29 AM

Thank you to Bill Moyers. Welcome back, sir. You have been sorely missed. When I tuned in tonight I was under the misconception that this was a one-time show. I was thrilled to hear that you will be on every week. I also want to give a heartfelt thank you to the Knight Ridder reporters. You guys are my new heroes. Finally, thank you to PBS for airing this (at least in my area). It is good to know that there is at least one television station I can still turn to for true investigative journalism.

Posted by: Dorcie | April 26, 2007 2:28 AM

As a registered independent, it was obvious that there were not WMD's. This was obvious in 2002. I am not a journalist. I read and I listen. What I read was not adding up to what I was listening to. What I was listened to was not adding up to what I read. 'Why do people want to believe that they can trust their government? By trusting, you get Vietnam, you get Iraq etc. All one has to do is read and read both sides of the coin. Common sense will then prevail if you have it. As citizens it is evident that we have no control as individuals or as a group what are government does in our name. Thank you Bill Moyers for producing this program. What I don't understand is why Bush and Company are not in jail yet? We are on our own folks....We are the government so make it happen.

Posted by: M Sullivan | April 26, 2007 2:25 AM

This documentry got my blood boiling. Back in 1990 when George Sr. was pitching the first gulf war to the public my mother, a lifelong critic of the media, told me point blank that he obviously hired a PRfirm. "Oh mom that's so cynical" I replied. That's just not possible with a free press. Then after the war was over 60 minutes did a story where they found out - guess what? George Bush hired a PR firm to "sell" the war. I remember thinking as I watched the report "Oh and you just figured that out now?" Of course the press knew it was a snow job, they just didn't have the nerve to say so and like this time, detractors were silenced. So when George Jr. started selling the second war with it's slogan "Weapons of mass destruction" I knew it was another PR job. I knew then Saddam didn't have any, it seemed obvious. Did the press convienently forget that the US was on daily bombing runs over Iraq since the gulf war? I think the military would have noticed something then. The media is either stupid or lying ( or both) if they expect us to...

Posted by: alisa mclaughlin | April 26, 2007 2:23 AM

I seem to recall a multitude of lawmakers, journalists, and members of the public asking for PROOF of Bush's WMD claims when they were being posited. I also remember northward of 70% of Americans polled saying they thought we should wait for the UN inspectors to finish their work (estimated at about 3 additional months) before invading Iraq. The issue on the eve of war was whether to allow inspections to continue or RUSH to war. The fact is, the majority of Americans wanted inspections to continue, and Bush defied the American people and rushed to war anyway. In helping manufacture the slim margin of consent required to allow such a crime to take place places the pro-war members of the press you profile not in a position of passive acquiescence before a bullying White House, but one of active conspiracy with fascist propagandists. Though it is unfashionable, it must be said that the American press in this period went the way of the Soviet and Nazi press, and their transgression was not one of simple meekness, but of willful participation in tyranny. My only hope is that there is an adequate reexamination of the facts to expose those involved...

Posted by: a true patriot | April 26, 2007 2:22 AM

Do you see a large difference between print (ink/digital) and the TV culture in regards to reporting inside and outside of the beltway? Going forward, do you have a sense that the DC/beltway reporters "learned their lesson"? If not now, then ever? What impact, if any, do you see in the reporting community? Can there be a return of "just the facts journalism" or are we too far down the road of the punditry culture? This was a great episode that I hope is widely seen. Stay skeptical.

Posted by: kristin h. | April 26, 2007 2:22 AM

George W. Bush = The King George we never had. Or wanted.

Posted by: Marla Hoskins | April 26, 2007 2:21 AM

Pacifica news had many of the counter-arguements and critics of the war the whole time. Too bad more people don't hear it.

Posted by: Steve | April 26, 2007 2:19 AM

I am overwhelmed to see the amount of replys here! I was hoping for this kind of response! I just hope the rest of America has an opportunity to see this show. All I can say is we as americans have to let OUR representatives know that this President and all of his kronies must be IMPEACHED! We have the lies on tape!let's round them all up and throw them back in their faces! The Founders of our Constitution stated that if a President lies to congress He can be Impeached. That he has done. Mr. Moyers, I congratulate you on this show! Please keep up the great work!

Posted by: Steven Nagy | April 26, 2007 2:19 AM

the post from "preameriKKKan" proves my point from my last post, which I would be a tad bit surprised if it's posted

Posted by: Jesse Norman | April 26, 2007 2:17 AM

I just wanted to say that this program has come at a very important time in my life. I was in high school when all of these things were happening, sadly this means I really wasn't paying that much attention to the big issues. My perception of 9/11 and all that surrounded it was painted by what little I saw on the news and then polished off with the ever growing opinions of my hometown (opinions generated from the media). At that point in my life I didn't see why I would need to question. Maybe it was that I still didn't fully understand politics, maybe it was adolecent apathy, or maybe it was a mixture of both as well as a very strong feeling of comfort in my personal life. I had a boyfriend, I was doing well enough in school, I had fun in my free time, those were/are my freedoms as an American--why would I want to disturb that peace? It sounds horrible, and it is. I can't say that other people feel this way. I believe that they do (conciously or not), especially people of my generation. We are reeping the benefits of the struggles our...

Posted by: nicole | April 26, 2007 2:17 AM

Because I watch PBS Newshour, BBC News, Charlie Rose and use the internet in place of newspapers, I was aware of the flaws in the administration's case for the war in Iraq. The steamroller propaganda effort to label anyone who questioned the need for war was obvious. The disagreement of the majority of our allies with the need to invade Iraq was another red flag. Why is there no discussion of the reasons we did not continue on to Baghdad during the first Gulf War? The Philadelphia Inquirer ran a lengthy multiple day story addressing this issue. Many television news shows had detailed explanations of why we were not invading Iraq. Then Secretary of Defense, Dick Cheney was a spokesman for why we should not remove Saddham Hussein from power. Several years ago, a cable show ran an interview with Mr. Cheney as part of a program on their best shows on their tenth anniversary. How did we allow the administration to frame the issue so there was no discussion of these concerns? Why didn't the Democrats (especially John Kerry) make use of the Cheney interview in 2004?

Posted by: Jeff | April 26, 2007 2:17 AM

While this program describes the misinformation and propaganda engine that took us to war, THIS PROGRAM FAILS TO ADDRESS THE MYTH AND PROPAGANDA THAT PERPETUATES THE BELIEF THAT WE ARE STILL AT WAR. Why are we still calling the situation in Irag a war? In fact, Bush himself declared the end of hostilities in 2003. Since then we have been an occupational force persiding over reconstruction (which obviously has gone bad). Consequently, the administration continues to define the nature of the debate and the press and public (including Bill Moyers as far as I can tell) continue to follow the administration's lead. Why is this important? The power of a war time president is far greater than otherwise. War always threatens the fabric of democracy. It's far easier to suspend our liberties during "war" than at any other time.

Posted by: Herbert Edwin Harris III | April 26, 2007 2:16 AM

The quality of the special report is very good. I taped the program for a specific purpose of informing certain people that they have been deceived and misled because of partisan politics. I would consider myself a true conservative, but because of the horrific consequences of the war and the repugnant attitude of the belligerent partisan politics, I am now unaffiliated with Republican Party and have been a registered Libertarian since. I was one of the protesters who demonstrated against America's war on Iraq in Salt Lake City February 2003. I was one of the protesters who demonstrated against America's continuous occupation of Iraq as unjust policy in Salt Lake City March 2004. Both times I carried a self-made cartoon poster depicting the rich fat cat from Disney cartoon Rescue Rangers smoking a cigar amid gold bags and piles of greenbacks with the black bold words above "GREED IS GOOD". I consider any person who unapologetically and jingoistically supports Iraq war and the continuous campaign of the War on Terror while the accused leader Osama is somehow not pursued with intensity -- unjust as it is now -- a neoconservative. I knew the truth about the media lies and have...

Posted by: Aaron Heineman | April 26, 2007 2:16 AM

Things started to go wrong in journalism when television networks stopped treating their news divisions as a public service and started employing these divisions as profit centers. Once the pursuit of ratings and advertising dollars entered the picture, objectivity left the room.

Posted by: Mark O. | April 26, 2007 2:15 AM

I cannot tell you how grateful I am to you, Bill Moyers, the Knight-Ridder reporters and their bosses for being authentic reporters, eschewing the "news entertainment" venue for probing for the facts. Whatever happened to going beyond the Who? the What? and the Where? to the When? the Why? and the How??? I, as many previous bloggers have reported, have lost friends in passionately demanding answers before supporting a war that could take my son or his friends' lives. I could not get them to understand that I cried every single morning over each death as it was reported. I can barely stand to see their faces, their names, their ages as they scroll down my tv screen. It is simply unbelievable to me that any American can see this as necessary and just. I have never been so ashamed of being an American, seen as so cold-heartedly willing to sacrifice our young men and women without asking the appropriate caretaking questions that were our duty to ask. We, the American people, are to blame for this war.

Posted by: Joy Fillman | April 26, 2007 2:14 AM

I stopped watching the network news a long time ago, and have stopped watching the PBS Newshour since before the war. Only TV news-related programs which I regualrly watch are/were Ted Koppel's Nightline, PBS Frontline, and whatever Bill Moyers hosts. What reported in the progarm makes me wonder whether Ted Koppel was similarly pushed out of ABC like the MSNBC's host. Any idea? I know that this question makes me sound like a conspiracy theorist whom I don't want to be. New York Times, Washington Post, etc, have lost my trust for their pre-war propogada, particularly through those sickening columnists. I still respect Jim Leher however can not bear to look at and listen to his "regular commentators" and experts. New Yorker has done a good job in telling the truth. Now, thanks to this program, I know the Knight Ridder as another trustwhorthy news source so that I don't have to solely rely on British in the future. Hey Brits, if any of you are here, don't let your country slide into our situation so that media is controlled by a few companies in the name of deregulation. Free press is much more important than the bottom line. Is...

Posted by: Bill L. M. | April 26, 2007 2:13 AM

This is pretty typical media flagellation, ablution if you are Catholic, I guess. It's like the media are saying, "Now that we know we could/should have fulfilled the hyperbole we arrogate to ourselves as the (so-called)Fourth Estate, let's beat ourselves bloody and promise (honest, I'll write it 100 times on the chalkboard teacher) to be better boys and girls if we can just have another chance! Just one more chance, please... I promise!" As an ordinary citizen, out here in blahs ville, there was enough information available to me to critically evaluate the pablum (paregoric anyone? -- "Paregoric by the bottle, forced down baby's throttle") force fed, then propagated and promulgated by, the media. How could the media get it so wrong? Easy -- Advertisers & Money. Interesting, isn't it, that MSNBC would fire both Phil Donahue and Don Imus. It's money and power folks, that is it -- all of it. Forget the media -- they are the tools, henchmen, thugs of the policy makers -- Think, think, think. Vote, vote, vote. And, most importantly, ACT! Don't seek demonstration permits, accept 1st amendment ghettos (chain link barriers blocks from where a politician is appearing), or file parade (er, I...

Posted by: Roy Conant | April 26, 2007 2:11 AM

It's a huge weight off my heart and mind to see all the insightful, energetic and intelligent comments here (excluding Mr. Winkler's). I no longer feel so alone in my futile search for truthful "news." The question is, "Now what?" Is there any way to move the media away from sensationalism and private interest and return to the fine craft of true journalism?

Posted by: Tamara | April 26, 2007 2:09 AM

Here's what we can do now. We have to convince our reps in Congress that the funding must be cut off immediately. Not in 1 year or even 6 months...but now. All the Congress has to do is...nothing. Really. Don't pass a bill that provides money for continuing this disastrous policy. This is not only Congress' Constitutional right, but it's their obligation. Stop the money...stop the war. Two quick but important facts: 1) Not only does the majority of Iraqis want us to leave now, but they even believe that attacks against our troops are justified. 2) According to our own CIA, our continuing occupation in Iraq is creating more terrorists. Sources for these can be found at the spoof McCain website: http://www.electjohnmccain2008.com

Posted by: Nick | April 26, 2007 2:08 AM

Wow. I don't know which news sources to turn to anymore. I read many of those very same newspaper articles cited in the program. And like many news consumers, I absorbed it all, and marched along to the drumbeat. (I really wish I had read the Knight Ridder articles then.) I think of myself as a relatively well-informed citizen. I read the news regularly from a variety of sources. But now I know, even with that, I may still not be as informed as I would like to believe. I'm disappointed and even angry that I can't trust the news articles I'm reading anymore. I'm angry at the media for not doing their jobs. I'm angry that there isn't a higher standard in journalism. I'm angry that there seems to be ZERO accountability in journalism for getting it SO wrong. As a news consumer and as citizen of this country, I demand better. We should all demand much much better.

Posted by: Jerry Teshirogi | April 26, 2007 2:08 AM

In some ways I feel that many of the comments are a little disingenuous. I believe that if one ask the American people whether they're against the Iraqi war, or against how it has been managed, you will find that most are against how it has been managed. Furthermore, if America had fought this Iraqi war the way we fought the Secound World War, we would win. America has hoped that its technologies would win this peace. But it hasn't. We did win the war in Iraq. We are losing the peace. Until we're willing to fight a kind of war dictated by the enemy, we will continue to lose; unless science and technology improves to win, otherwise. If you check the opinions of the American people before the Secound World War, you will discover that most Americans did not support that war ahead of Pearl Harbor. President Roosevelt eluded the judgement of the American people by secretly meeting with Churchill on a ship off shore to ascertain England's military needs to defend against the German onslaught. Another thing regarding President Bush's decision to go to war in Iraq is that the only time that the American people would likely...

Posted by: Bennie Beaver | April 26, 2007 2:06 AM

I want to see "W" easel boy and all those in his administration held accountable! I am so tired of all the deceit. And here we all are, after watching another Stellar program from the great Bill Moyers, while the War of lies continues marching on! Call your congressman or woman and demand that baby bush be held accountable and too put an END to this War! Thank You Mr. Moyers for another great program!

Posted by: JAH | April 26, 2007 2:05 AM

This will help explain things...... -- Most people prefer to believe their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which they live is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of a corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all... If you've just seen Bill Moyers "Buying the War" and are in shock that is a good thing "wake up", now tell all of your family and friends....... and last but not least, find more answers. Demolition....

Posted by: Jim T | April 26, 2007 2:04 AM

I think it was unfair to equate this war with fighting the Germans. The Iraqi Army has been defeated…these are terrorists sponsored by outside factions. I know because we caught 12 of them coming into Iraq with wads of Iranian money. I spent 16 months on active duty because of this war. I never bought it from the start and I could not believe people were buying into this so whole heartedly. It is so funny to me how the US public (most of which have not served) were so eager to send in the troops. yea...3000+ have died...but the real tragedies are the physically and mentally wounded and the long-lasting effects on the US. People can get over the fact you are gone...when you are still here with problems...that is going to last a lifetime. You forget about the families that have been ripped apart because of deployments and obligations; Employers doing without employees for 18 months. Also, having been there I am tired of the armchair quarterbacks here in the media and law offices. What you don't understand is that YES we should not have gone there...but now it is too late. To stop now would just equate...

Posted by: CPT O. | April 26, 2007 2:03 AM

Political correctness is more a comical myth among liberals than truth and where it does exists its about showing respect to those different than us. True political correctness exist within the ‘you’re either with us or against us’ right wing of the conservative end of the Republican Party. Qualifications matter little to this group compared to strict party loyalty down to accepting every single party principle of the moment. It is not possible to say something is, for example, truly blue when party loyalty demands it to be red.

Posted by: Ken Wells | April 26, 2007 2:01 AM

As a former newspaper reporter who deplores the decline of the journalistic enterprise, I honor and applaud Jonathon Landay and Warren Strobel for their courageous and excellent reporting. It was a beacon in those dark days of the rush to war for millions of us who believed from the beginning that an invasion of Iraq would be a disaster. My question for the two of you: what journalism awards have you received for your coverage of Iraq?

Posted by: Siddika | April 26, 2007 2:01 AM

Mr. Moyers, a salute to you. We're hearing that this administration is absolutely out of it's little MIND and we're growing a little concerned. 43 is a thug, a mass murderer and a crook, and somebody actually voted for him, or did they? chalabi has OUR tax money! make judith miller and other warmongers pay it back. now understand why nyt faded from my bookmark list. at least, now we're ALL skeptics. you cannot believe one single thing that the MSM has to "report". if you're hearing a speech, "and so forth" are code words for "i'm just reciting here, don't ask for details!" what's up with the 7 REFRIGERATOR trucks! chalabi thinks amurkins are troglodytes, ha! darth as "source" = halliburton payback televised words hurt a bit, ay? emails will byte you back, won't they? safire wrote 27 articles? follow the $ on THAT guy! moyers makes tenets book worthless! bob simon wanted to make the war "light"?!!! and he only has 1000 mea culpas? WHIG, stand up and be counted! too clever by twice, ayy, KKKarl? Make dicky, rummy, kkkarl, harriet, condi "mushroom cloud" rice, 43, 43's mom and dad, feith, wolfy, judith, david, michael, both kyles, hell...

Posted by: pre-amerikkkan | April 26, 2007 1:59 AM

I think its important to realise that a majority of the actions of this administration are based on various covert groups agenda as well as corporate groups that "donated" money to help bring them into power. Don't get it twisted America, the person who pays you in the boss, not the other way around. These organisations have ties to both sides of politics and I feel thats important to note with a election in the not so distant future. I heard someone earlier ask about "WHY" and the "motive" behind all this. Might i suggest a simple answer, CONTROL. Naturally it goes deeper than just that but i'm not going to go into it. I'd like to finish in saying, i have the upmost respect for You both along with the others featured on this program that sought after the truth whole heartedly. Thank You and God Bless. Sincerely, Graft

Posted by: Graft | April 26, 2007 1:58 AM

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, FOR FERRETING OUT THE 'REAL' REPORTS ON WMDs "WORDS OF MASS DISTRUCTION" ... AND FOR BRINGING TO LIGHT THIS STORY AND ADMISSION OF A JOB NOT WELL DONE BY COLLEAGUES. WE LEARN BY OUR MISTAKES AND WE GO ON...THE AMERICAN SPIRIT ENDURES-- THIS STORY IS PROOF THAT THE TRUTH WILL PREVAIL..HOWEVER, IN THIS CASE, NOT IN A 'TIMELY FASHION.' MY PRAYER IS THAT THIS STORY WILL BE SHOWN, TAUGHT, AND USED TO TRAIN OUR YOUNG REPORTERS TO CONTINUE TO CHALLENGE THE STATUS QUO...TO CHALLENGE THE WAY PROFESSIONAL AND HONORED JOURNALIST REPORT WHEN THEY ARE WRONG; AND TO TAKE ACTION EVEN IN THE LIGHT OF DISAPPROVAL BY PEERS. COURAGE. COURAGE. --YES, THE PRESS CHICKENED OUT ON PRESENTING THE VARIOUS SIDES OF THE STORY... LAZY IN SEEKING FACTS, AND BECAME THE VICTIMS OF THEIR OWN WORDS OF MASS DESTRUCTION AND THE 'MOB MENTALITY' AS SEEN THROUGH THE MEDIA. MOVING FORWARD, I HAVE FAITH AGAIN IN OUR SYSTEM -- AS THIS REVEALS A SOCIETY IN NEED OF TRANSFORMATION AND IMPROVEMENT. GOD HELP US TO BE...BE THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT CAN LEAD OUR YOUTH INTO RESPECT AND HONOR AND HOLD THE VISION FOR A FUTURE OF GOODNESS...

Posted by: S Horton | April 26, 2007 1:54 AM

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, FOR FERRETING OUT THE 'REAL' REPORTS ON WMDs "WORDS OF MASS DISTRUCTION" ... AND FOR BRINGING TO LIGHT THIS STORY AND ADMISSION OF A JOB NOT WELL DONE BY COLLEAGUES. WE LEARN BY OUR MISTAKES AND WE GO ON...THE AMERICAN SPIRIT ENDURES-- THIS STORY IS PROOF THAT THE TRUTH WILL PREVAIL..HOWEVER, IN THIS CASE, NOT IN A 'TIMELY FASHION.' MY PRAYER IS THAT THIS STORY WILL BE SHOWN, TAUGHT, AND USED TO TRAIN OUR YOUNG REPORTERS TO CONTINUE TO CHALLENGE THE STATUS QUO...TO CHALLENGE THE WAY PROFESSIONAL AND HONORED JOURNALIST REPORT WHEN THEY ARE WRONG; AND TO TAKE ACTION EVEN IN THE LIGHT OF DISAPPROVAL BY PEERS. COURAGE. COURAGE. --YES, THE PRESS CHICKENED OUT ON PRESENTING THE VARIOUS SIDES OF THE STORY... LAZY IN SEEKING FACTS, AND BECAME THE VICTIMS OF THEIR OWN WORDS OF MASS DESTRUCTION AND THE 'MOB MENTALITY' AS SEEN THROUGH THE MEDIA. MOVING FORWARD, I HAVE FAITH AGAIN IN OUR SYSTEM -- AS THIS REVEALS A SOCIETY IN NEED OF TRANSFORMATION AND IMPROVEMENT. GOD HELP US TO BE...BE THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT CAN LEAD OUR YOUTH INTO RESPECT AND HONOR AND HOLD THE VISION FOR A FUTURE OF GOODNESS...

Posted by: S Horton | April 26, 2007 1:53 AM

As the brother of a 9/11 victim in the Pentagon, our family has and will never recover from the grief. Yet, contrary to the media coverage of the atmosphere of universal support for military action - a certain sense of entitlement to 'vengance' - our family talked frankly about how military action was going to produce more casualties, around the world, just like us - who were going to have bombs dropped on them around the world, and that this would be done in our the name of our loved one. We were able to talk about this seperate from the notion of politics. The days after 9/11 were full of pain - but the conversations I was having on the street with people, with friends and family, on the military base, were nuanced and ran a full spectrum of thoughtfulness about our predicament - from ideas of nonviolence, and showing the world how we could respond to 9/11 in the right way - by holding our values up - I heard more of that in talking to people, even those grieving, waiting to find out news of their loved one. Quickly the drumbeat of the media, particularly the television...

Posted by: Barry A | April 26, 2007 1:53 AM

I am an active duty service member who participated in the "war" from the very first hours, and I wish to applaud Mr. Moyers for tackling such a controversial issue. Being overseas during the build-up and later execution of the war, we were able to view and read news from sources other than the U.S. It is interesting to note that U.S. reporting seemed to be the only news source that ignored any contradicting evidence of Iraqi WMD. Turns out the French were right.

Posted by: C. M. | April 26, 2007 1:50 AM

first, welcome back mr. moyers. you are a sight for sore eyes. just a comment for mr. linday and mr. strobel: thank you gentlemen for your hard work and dedication to the truth. i know the job of a journalist is thankless (unless you are a yes-man and rewarded with may hours of air time), but for those of you who go unmentioned that really do your job correctly, you do not get the thanks you deserve. thank you for your long hours of research. thank you for thinking critically about everything. and thank you for being a beacon of light through these very dark times. i hope that if you ever may grow weary from being a beacon, you understand that there are american citizens that recognize your perserverence and hold you up as vital public servants for the united states of america. peace be with the citizens of iraq and afghanistan that were murdered senslessly, peace be with the men and women of the united states military who are sent in harm's way, peace be with those families that have lost loved ones in this illegal and immoral war, and peace be with you gentlemen. tiffany

Posted by: tiffany | April 26, 2007 1:49 AM

Just as surely as the NY Times' Ray Bonner was demolished for telling the truth about a US-abetted massacre at El Mozote in El Salvador in 12/81, and just as Robert Parry was "dismissed" from the AP and Newsweek for his "sin" of breaking the Iran Contra story, and just as Gary Webb's career was destroyed for his embarrassing the govt. by revealing it's unsavory ties to drug importers in the "Just Say No"-Reagan era, so, too, will Bill Moyers, Warren Strobel and Jon Landry also be sent packing. It's over, folks! When Ben Badikian, the Dean of Berkeley's Journalism School, wrote in his book, "The Media Monopoly" that the consolidation of the press was gravely threatening to destroy the free press in America, he was right, but he badly understated the case. When the first edition of his book came out there were about 19 independent news sources in the USA, down from ~50 when he'd started as a cub reporter. Ther are now no more than 5 or 6 independent sources of news and, as Moyers pointed out, they "need" to stay in the good graces of govt. They play along to get along, for there's too much...

Posted by: Gary Aguilar, MD | April 26, 2007 1:49 AM

Great report and at the same time a very sad report to see that a lot of these same reporters and "experts" are still having their voices heard. They have also not changed how they report this administrations talking points I thank you Mr. Moyer for this report, amazing show! Everyone needs to get the word out about this report. We need more people like Jonathan Landay, Warren Strobel, Scott Ritter. People who have the guts to find the real story and bring it to the people. Cheers to Knight Ridder!

Posted by: Dale B. | April 26, 2007 1:48 AM

Bill Moyers you and the intrepid journalists from Knight Ridder are my heros! Keep up the good work, there are many dragons to be slain! (But they aren't as big as they used to seem)

Posted by: dangangry | April 26, 2007 1:47 AM

Thanks Knight-Ridder. I'll be looking for your byline.

Posted by: Ruby | April 26, 2007 1:46 AM

Moyers, Landay, and Strobel: Thank you. Just...thanks. There people of all stripes in this country (and beyond) who appreciate so much the work you are doing, including this teenager.

Posted by: Sony | April 26, 2007 1:45 AM

It's unfortunate the webcast could not go as scheduled. I missed all but 5 mins of this broadcast, but I was there when this all happened. When we declared Iraq an axis of evil when the 10th Mountain Division got to use their training to eradicate the Taliban. I was there when our President said this is what needs to happen to prevent another 9-11. You don't need to be a reporter or a scab in Washington. You just need to use common sense. I just don't understand how so many people were snowed in patriotism to see the beckoning of a nazi like calling. Well we're doing ok we have lost less soldiers lives than any war. Even though my buddy lost his squad leader, his gunners legs and half his face there is a bright side. We still have our freedom and get to watch television. My air conditioner runs on high night and day. Our cars burn fuel at a rate of 10-15 miles to a gallon and our oil company's make record profits. Hooray profits. So I only saw 5 mins of this program, but I have been living 12 years of it. This isn't about...

Posted by: enumbonous | April 26, 2007 1:44 AM

Gentlemen: You did a heroic and professional job reporting on the run-up to the war, as Bill Moyers did tonight on most of journalism's failure during the same period. The real elephant in the closet, however, is your and the rest of the establishment media's failure to seriously examine the administration's account of the 911 attack itself. THAT issue is far more taboo than WMDs everwere and even your fine organization is still failing the country even by ignoring it. Dozens of courageous high-level public officials, past and present, Republicans and Democrats alike, have concluded that the 911 Commission Report is deeply flawed. And just recently Senator John Kerry told a public audience that his review of the evidence shows that building 7 at the WTC was brought down by a controlled-demolition--something anybody with unimpaired vision can see for themselves but that utterly contradicts the official account. Start there, gentlemen, and follow the evidence. This is the one that will test you to see if you can continue down the courageous path you have so brilliant followed so far. Good luck and watch your backs. Eddie

Posted by: Eddie | April 26, 2007 1:44 AM

I have never been enchanted with NYT and less the Washington Post. But from today I'll my friends about Knight Ridder, what a truly patriotic news crew! And thanks Bill Moyer, for coming back! One question, why no mention of the common thread between Krauthammer, william Safire, Kristol, Perle and the other notorious faces. I can only wonder how powerful PNAC's attack squad might be like. Pathma

Posted by: Pathma | April 26, 2007 1:42 AM

I remember in 2003 a show call NOW exposed that the President had openly and deliberatly lie to the American people. Out here in the west there was KPFK radio. There were voices out there but the drown out by the rally to war. Thank GOD, the press is finally becoming unfrozen by fear. Perhaps the American people can go back to being informed rather than manipulated into a opinion.

Posted by: CYnthia Wright | April 26, 2007 1:41 AM

Well tonight I saw the report about the false reporting that lead to the Iraq War. I have been in the military for over 15 years and have deployed all over the world on different missions and also over to the middle east. It just amazed me how my commander in chief keeps pressing the issue on Iraq. The terrorist dont wear any uniforms and dont have military bases like we have. This War will not end anytime soon...Our enemies don't wear uniforms so its impossible to win it. I'll bet anybody out there who thinks that we ca nwin this war....This war has already been lost. Just look at the news and al lthe Joes coming back all messed up. And to this date our own gov. keeps lying to us....... I have one thing to add to this...just bring the troops home...This War is lost...... Our enemies are our neighbors that live next door to us. They wear civilan cloths and we cant tell if they are friend or foe......

Posted by: Joe | April 26, 2007 1:40 AM

Thank you. I have been waiting for this story to be told for sometime now, and you absolutely nailed it.

Posted by: Eric Behrens | April 26, 2007 1:40 AM

Thanks for staying true to the responsibility of being the fourth estate. In watching the program, I was frustrated all over again because politicians who supported the invasion of Iraq are saying "if I knew then..." Well I knew because I read - including the intelligence estimate that was released. I find it almost impossible that those in Washington - who certainly have access to information and the classified reports; who can talk to anyone at the Pentagon, State Department, or CIA that they want, could not know that the whole thing was a con job. My question is, can any representative in Washington claim with any credibility that they didn't know this was propaganda? My second question is why the press continues to allow the Bush administration, and Cheney in particular, continue to repeat the lies that they were spinning in the run-up to the invasion without commenting on the fact these claims have been proven false?

Posted by: Rowan Wolf | April 26, 2007 1:40 AM

I still remember the feeling leading up to the war. It wasn't just one of isolation, it was the feeling that everyone else couldn't be crazy, so it must be me. But I knew it wasn't me so I looked for the shed skins and the pods of those who were converted to mindless zombies. I was so naive. I still trusted the media and I would e-mail them simple questions and observations thinking I was helpful. Things like "hey, if they wanted to take over, then they would have landed to planes. So why is our freedom at stake again?" We are still not there yet, and many will never believe, but reports like this help us to understand the real enemy and who is committed to the destruction of this country. Now we are finding that these enemies won't step down when called out and disgraced. In fact, the more they lie the more praise they receive from the president. I'm certain that we are going to see that the administration was involved in a campaign to subvert free and fair elections and has tampered with the administration of justice. I don't know what else we will find...

Posted by: K Ackermann | April 26, 2007 1:38 AM

A nice piece of half-truth. Or should I say, half the story. In the winter of 2002-03, being the militant independent I am, I judiciously ignored the "drumbeats" of the administration, and paid more attention to the words of the UN's head peacenik, Hans Blix. In his last report to the Security Council, several weeks before the invasion of Iraq, he again said that there were tons of anthrax, Vx nerve agent, etc., that were still unaccounted for -- and that Saddam's government was still playing cat and mouse rather than doing what they agreed to do in the cease fire agreement for the 1st Gulf War: cooperate. I think many Americans, including many upstanding journalists had one eye on Blix and felt that this was a guy they could trust. And he was saying he didn't know if the WMD still existed. I'm not prepared to give the members of my first career a pass on this issue. But the drumbeats of the Bushies were only half the story.

Posted by: Ron Duplantis | April 26, 2007 1:38 AM

The only media I trust as of 2003 is now McClatchy, the former Knight-Ridder. Thank you for your courage and dedication gentlemen. Did your experience frustration because your stories were being ignored? What did you think and feel when the rest of the MSM were schilling for the Bush administration?

Posted by: Dusty | April 26, 2007 1:37 AM

Excellently detailed story. Join us for a live chat Thursday night at 9PM EST DemocracyInteractive.com about the Moyers program. http://www.democracyinteractive.com

Posted by: Darryl | April 26, 2007 1:37 AM

In the months prior to US attack on Iraq I felt like there must be something wrong with me because everyone around me was for the war and I did not understand why no one is questioning the FOX news. Thank you for your hard work. I hope that the American public will take a deep breath and look at all the facts before our president sends us off to war with Iran.

Posted by: M DiMartino | April 26, 2007 1:35 AM

I enjoyed the documentary, but I already knew everything it exposed and more, because I listen to pacifica radio. Any pacifica radio listener would have known, based on the facts delivered by investigative journalists and others who would really know, that the administration was full of BS and what the real agenda was. What I would like to know is how come I knew-- without intelligence reports or security clearance, etc, etc,--just from listening to community sponsored radio-- yet our "representatives" and the mainstream "watchdog for the public" newsmedia supposedly had no idea that anything was amiss? Give me a BREAK!!

Posted by: kelmad | April 26, 2007 1:35 AM

Mr. Moyers, this was possibly the most courageous piece of work you've done since resigning as LBJ's press secretary. Hopefully, as then, this will start things moving. The honesty of K-R reporting was not wasted on me over the last few years; every time I read a story that made any sense to me, it had a K-R byline. As to the program, I would have liked to have seen something about Jack Welch. His influence was once again re-examined on the internet. There were a couple of mentions of news as business, but Welch totally personifies this horrible situation. Also, the one thing that was totally absent was 9-11 itself. The assumption of the program seemed to be that 9-11 fell into Bush's lap. We all know that a war was planned before 9-11, to look at those events as unrelated relegates one to the realm of 'Cooincidence Theorist".

Posted by: larry, dfh | April 26, 2007 1:34 AM

Interesting and irritating, but not at all surprising. John Stosell, long ago, did a piece on 20/20 that admitted the media, 20/20 included, did not check it's sources, but rather went along with the prevailing spirit and the bias of the time. The sources were not real, but were plants and no one bothered to verify credibility. In this way, the media becomes it's own source whilst unknowingly promoting secret agendas leaked to the press as if it were news. This is why reporters interview reporters and seek opinion as if it were fact. This had been going on long before the Iraq war. Talk show hosts stack the deck so that the adversary is in fact stupid, or at least out numbered. They make sure the opinion wanted wins the day. This way was demonstrated in your show when Oprah snubbed the doubter. Donahue, did it all of the time on his show. Those who go along, get along, as they keep their jobs by following the spirit of the day (zietgiest) as they repeat in creative fashion what those around them are already saying. They go along because they don't want to lose their jobs, but also because...

Posted by: Dan Johnson | April 26, 2007 1:34 AM

I just can't understand why, if I had doubts about what was being broadcast and what was in print newspapers why the media wouldn't ask the same kind of questions that I had.

Posted by: Ron | April 26, 2007 1:34 AM

Telling how the big-shot reporters declined to comment. You guys are doing a great job. Thanks. That info about the college student being plagiarized was priceless. Had not seen that before, but then I live in the U.S. The Knight-Ridder stuff hits home too as I live in SC. Sadly our paper "The State" uses the other guys stories as opposed to the real stuff, which ends up on page 16 if at all. Best wishies to you both and Mr Moyers a long-time favorite of mine.

Posted by: Michael Emmanuel | April 26, 2007 1:34 AM

My question is why are the history books seemingly neglected when foreign policy is formulated? In both Vietnam and now Iraq, there was a long history of prior conflict that cast serious doubts about America reaching its goals in both wars. Is it simply the arrogance of power and fog of war? Or is history considered too obscure a tool to use? In light of the serious internal tribal conflicts present in Iraq for years, why did our leaders assume a victory was assured? Did they simply believe their own spin and ignore hard facts?

Posted by: Steve | April 26, 2007 1:34 AM

Awesome reporting as usual from the conscience of America: Bill Moyers BRAVO! Let the truth go marching on!

Posted by: rickeagle | April 26, 2007 1:33 AM

I just finished watching the program. Thank you so much for showing that there are still people in this country who are really concerned with establishing the truth.

Posted by: Irina | April 26, 2007 1:33 AM

I read the Mercury News very carefully during that period, and always wondered why I knew more then anyone inside the Beltway!! Thanks, and I will be reading McClatchy. Joel Bahu

Posted by: Joel Bahu | April 26, 2007 1:32 AM

Besides the censorship by omission of some of Knight-Ridder's newspapers not carrying your stories, did you ever receive any other pressure to stop reporting on stories that questioned the administration's case for war?

Posted by: Keith Ten Eyck | April 26, 2007 1:32 AM

When will we ever learn?

Posted by: Noah | April 26, 2007 1:31 AM

Great program. It looks like they will be running it several times this week on my local PBS so I will tape it next time. No surprises for me since I knew we were going to Iraq on Sept. 12, 2001. Yeah, I knew it that early. The program is a good educational tool to help educate people on how they cannot rely on MSM to know what is really going on in the US and world. One suggestion for your website. Where you have the section to sign up for feeds, please add Feedburner capability. Makes it really nice for people to be able to read updates via their email then click if the find one they want to comment on.

Posted by: Cheryl | April 26, 2007 1:31 AM

It is clear that the administration had a strong, or overwhelming motivation for war in Iraq. Has anyone figured out why?

Posted by: Allen | April 26, 2007 1:29 AM

Well Done, I just watched the show and it was the first primetime tv critique of Operation Iraqi Liberation (OIL) that I've seen. It was interesting to hear the CEO of CNN say that they were snapped into line by FOX's aggressive reporting tactics. To examing this fear more closely I'd recommend the documentary 'Outfoxed: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism' Also I recently saw the documentary 'Iraq for $ale' and would recommend it if you liked this. Keep digging KR! Moyers Thank you.

Posted by: Dan | April 26, 2007 1:29 AM

Imagine Woodward and Bernstein, but nobody listened. Be your own skeptic, don't leave it to someone else. You're reading this via the most powerful research tool in history, the internet. People, do your own reporting -- for yourself.

Posted by: Donn | April 26, 2007 1:26 AM

Many kudos to Jonathan Landay and Warren Strobel for the courage and spine that most MSM reporters lacked post 9/11. It is also heartening to see Bill Moyers back into insightful TV journalism. CBS news was at its best when Dan Rather had Bill Moyers to do Special Commentaries. The question is what is the best thing to do now. Among the possible ideas that Landay/Stobel and Moyers could work on for their paper and TV-show : 1. Expose the dishonesty among the right-wing talk radio hosts who seem to enthrall a large populace fearful of 9-11 type attacks. 2. Expose Faux News misrepresentation and skewing of facts. 3. Expose the tremendous waste in Military procurement and DOD R&D projects. Billions of taxpayer $s are wasted because no one has the courage to question anything. There is a nexus of military-contractor-academia that encourage and support hundreds of wasteful projects that are of little practical value. 4. Impeachment of George Bush should be carefully studied. I hope Moyers would put together the best constitutional scholars and find out all the legal implications. Is there a good case for impeachment? 5. Moyers should bring together the liberal and conservative thinkers to explore...

Posted by: achena | April 26, 2007 1:23 AM

One of the other posters here mentioned the possibility that Giuliani might have been involved in the demolition of WTC7. Here's another question: Rudy's a cop, right? And one of the first things they teach cops is to preserve the evidence at a crime scene, right? Then WHY did he immediately order all the WTC (1, 2, AND 3) steel removed, and shipped as scrap to China? What evidence did he get rid of? The thermate slag along the cut edges of the core columns?

Posted by: William Cardy | April 26, 2007 1:22 AM

I still haven’t forgiven the Media for it’s coverage of the 2000 election, Bush V Gore, and the Consortium report. This downward spiral all started with the 12/12/00 Supreme Court decision when they all said in essence “get over it” to the American people and asked no questions. The Yellow cake forgeries went unreported yet one page of over twenty pages of corroborating information about George Bushes service (or lack of) caused the firing of Dan Rather. As for me, I watch your show, Now, BBC, and read Truthout, Buzzflash, and CLG. I join thousands of Americans who say “thank god for public Television, thank god for C-span and thank got for the internet”. I’ve seen all these lies and spins before. I am a Vietnam Veteran.

Posted by: Peter Brunner | April 26, 2007 1:18 AM

Thank you for a great program! ...but, grief only grief! I've been following this situation from the beginning. Air America Radio held me together while the rest of the media managed to disappoint, confuse and frustrated me. I still wait to see my country reclaim it's direction the the world and it's soul in humanity. ...Sending my love and clarity to all.

Posted by: Holly Choate | April 26, 2007 1:15 AM

When 911 happened... I, like a lot of patriotic Americans... had my flag flying the next day. When our President started trying to make a case for war with Iraq.... I told my wife... if he's right about the WMD's & ties to the terrorists.... then I support the Presidents decision. However... by God, they'd better find WMD's or the USA... which is already hated by most of the world... will really have egg on its face. Now that we have determined that we are in a war based on lies and deception.... it begs the question.... why the hell isn't that son of a bitch being impeached. Bill Clinton got impeached for some sexual indescretions... this man is responsible for the deaths of thousands.... and still walks around as arrogant as always. As a Viet Nam veteran.... I am a bit sensitive to going to war for no reason. I have to say.... I am extremely disappointed in our government right now. I'm at least glad that there are journalists who are willing to risk the label of being unpatriotic... and tell the truth about this war.

Posted by: Bill Fatur | April 26, 2007 1:14 AM

Lots of great comments I agree with, hopefully this was just Bill Moyer's Part 1 (tip of the iceberg) and something I didn't hear a word about in the program was, IRAN, it's already being pushed more and more, you know, "mushroom clouds propaganda" etc..... Don't let correcting one wrong way interfere with putting a stop to the next one. Now there will be people stepping up saying, "well, I do think the Iraq invasion was wrong but this Iran thing is different." If you haven't seen these then dig in...... internet video. Uncovered: The Whole Truth about the Iraq war Orwell Rolls In His Grave The Third Stage

Posted by: Jim T | April 26, 2007 1:12 AM

Greets, Bravo, Knight Ridder! Moyers gets it right in that very few "liberals" had access to truthful reporting leading up to the US invasion of Iraq. The trouble, as described in the show, is with the strings attached with the US Media, all well researched in McChesney and Nichols' 'Our Media, Not Theirs.' Even so, much of the burden lies on the consumers as well. If the public can't get half-reasonable answers to the obvious 'hows' and 'whys,' then they are clearly on someone else's ride. The worst bit is, that the mainstream "liberal" media in the States continues to suffer from the pressures of lobbies when it comes to the Arab-Israeli conflict. When EU Commission's survey puts Israel as the biggest threat to world peace, ahead of Iran, Afghanistan, North Korea, and even US, the American media either pans it or if it has to comment on it, it repeats the AIPAC line. The bias is clear in the rest of the Arab-Israeli reporting, too. Public with access to FREE press, would undeniably ask, "What are the people watching, listening, reading, in the rest of the world, that us Americans aren't? The entire world, outside Israel and the US...

Posted by: Ajit | April 26, 2007 1:11 AM

Thank You. The critical intellect is sacred, not money, titles or positions of power. More elusive than even the bluebird of happiness it must for our own preservation & survival be our only quest. You are one of several saving graces among a frighteningly failed American media. Now i & each of us must go forth & respect & follow our animate intellects.

Posted by: George | April 26, 2007 1:08 AM

Good program, as you would expect from Moyers. Thanks to the KR/McClatchy guys. You may have felt like you were screaming into the wind back in '02, but your efforts were deeply appreciated back then by those of us who bothered to pay attention. And, of course, your efforts are still very much valued now. It is scandalous how you guys are able to put out such quality stuff, considering your resources in comparison with other outlets. Bravo. Couple of questions: 1. Has anyone in Congress ever shown interest in your work? Here I'm thinking of the stalled Senate Select Intelligence investigation, which in phase two was supposed to probe whether Bush officials deliberately manipulated intelligence on Iraq. Pat Roberts did a good job stonewalling for a while, but is there going to be any headway made there now? And do you feel like your reporting would be of relevance? 2. Did you ever do any reporting on the forged Niger uranium docs? Specifically, the standard line is that they originated in "Italian intelligence," but is there anything to suggest that they might be traceable back, in some way, to the US? To be blunt, many people are suspicious of...

Posted by: Bill | April 26, 2007 1:06 AM

so why did the president and his people want to go to war so badly(quickly)was it for oil?or some oter reason.seems like many people have gotten tremendously rich from this war.surely they did not believe their own lies.so why go to war with out any real hard edvidence.seems to be many theories on this matter.why??

Posted by: paul bklyn | April 26, 2007 1:04 AM

How come a little hick from the sticks (me), with access to the internet and foreign press, knew the WH was lying out of it's keister and all those with so-called "good" intelligence in D.C. fell for it? They had ample evidence that Bush never told the truth about anything in the previous 3 years. In order to prevent war on the next neo-con target, please do a story on: www.stopIranwar.com.

Posted by: Don Jo | April 26, 2007 1:02 AM

This was a great documentary that expresses exactly what many of us knowledgeable concerned citizens have been stating since 2001! Thank You. But one question that I have always wanted to ask but I have NEVER heard on any news network or papers is: WHat has been the impact of The Project for the New American Century? I have been watching this exact group very closely since the late 1990's, and I have always known that anyone who really did pay attention to PNAC could clearly see what the intentions of the neo-cons were since before Bush was elected the first time. They clearly defined the case for an Iraqi overthrow and preemptive war before Bush was elected. But whenever someone brings up PNAC, they seem to be written off as a conspirasist nut-job. So, why didn't the Press pay more attention to PNAC, or at least question the concept of PAX AMERICANA? Surely it was known in Washington. ~JD

Posted by: JD | April 26, 2007 1:01 AM

Thanks to Bill Moyer and all of the reporters who have the courage to ask hard questions and seek the truth. After watching the show, I'm troubled about the future of our country. How can so many get it so wrong. I've always been a skeptic, having grown up in the 60's, and as the show pointed out, there was ample evidence available to me that countered the claims of the administration and the pundits who supported the administration's road to war. The lack of international support for the invasion, together with the lack of evidence from the UN inspection team led me to believe that we were making a big mistake. As for our current situation in Iraq, I believe we will find ourselves in the same situation as the Russians in Afghanistan. The Russians exhausted their military and economic power in a war that they couldn't win. The insurgents in Iraq, whether they be terrorists or Iraqi nationalists, could well be following the same tactic. Drain the United States of their military and economic power, isolate the US from the rest of the world powers and then sit back and watch what happens. It seems so obvious to...

Posted by: Steve A | April 26, 2007 1:01 AM

I was watching events VERY CLOSELY as they unfolded during the fall winter of 2002-03, as our country was bamboozled into an unjust and deceitful war. I remember Andy Card announcing at the end of August that the marketing campaign to sell the war in Iraq had to be launched in the fall, like the introduction of some new PR campaign to sell a new brand of soap because it was best to luanch new marketing campaings in September. I remember some GOP Senator (either Grassley or Hagel) saying they'd seen the latest reports from the Adminstration about Iraq's WMD capabilities and that they'd seen nothing new or persuasive to convince them that things had changed such that a case for war was justified. I remember an unnamed Administration official state in the Washington Post that one of the hopes with a war against Iraq was that the U.S. would be able to build bases in Iraq, and move its troops out of Saudi Arabia. I saw and heard Scott Ritter as he said repeatedly that Saddam had no WMD (while CNN ran captions at the bottom of the screen emphasizing White House acusations about him of being a paid...

Posted by: Sperm Donor | April 26, 2007 1:00 AM

Outstanding! Ed Murrow would have been proud. Strangely enough, bringing Democracy by invasion did not work for us in 1898 through 1946 nor 2003 through ??. Neocons don't read history much, they are faith based!

Posted by: Terry Joslin | April 26, 2007 1:00 AM

Thanks for doing your job as reporters! I am so looking forward to hearing all the pro-war spin doctors spin themselves in circles. ~Amadeus

Posted by: Amadeus | April 26, 2007 1:00 AM

50 USC 1622b. Check it out. And to the Marine, you will be called back so get ready. Semper Fi.

Posted by: 50 USC 1622b | April 26, 2007 1:00 AM

I have never felt so helpless, angry, and frustrated and for years. When Congress was debating whether to go to war, I wrote to Mrs. Bush, Rumsfield, Wolfowitz, my representatives BEGGING them not to go to war because we didn't have enough evidence, that Sadam was being contained with flyovers and sanctions, and worse, that this action would make everything worse in the world, create more danger for all of us, and cause us to be even more hated in the Middle East. No one listens to us. This is NOT a democracy. What on EARTH could we Americans have done to stop Bush and his crew? And to Bill: SO GLAD YOU ARE BACK!

Posted by: Barbara Hunt, Dallas, Texas | April 26, 2007 1:00 AM

I regret that this show was 38,000 lives too late. As a scholar you never solely lean on one source of information but multiple. I admire your work and appreciate your efforts. Now the concentration must be how do we dissiminate our information. Thank you for your hard work.

Posted by: Edward Lewis Jr. | April 26, 2007 12:59 AM

Thank you for an important and well presented segment tonight; I am so glad that some of the truth about this corrupt, manipulative, Neo-Conservative Cabal is finally coming out! Here's something else, about which I wish the American public could be informed: In early 1997 Zbigniew Brzezinski wrote "the Grand Chessboard" in which he said that America, being the last remaining Superpower, could and should now set it's sights on achieving "American Global Hegemony", starting with the conquest of Central Asia. You see, the largest remaining untapped oil dome on the planet sits directly under Khazakstan, Tajikistan, and Uzbekistan, which in turn lie due north of Afganistan and Pakistan. Brzezinski and Kissinger have been working for YEARS with Unocal, to build the pipeline through Afganistan to the sea...BTW: Did you know that Karzai used to work for Unocal? Or that we have built 15 permanent military bases along the Unocal Pipeline Route? Not to mention the 14 permanent bases in Iraq... Second point of interest that the public needs to know: In July of 1997, Mr. Cheney and his Neo-Conservative friends founded "The Project For THe New American Century", and put up a webpage so named. Incredibly, it's still active...

Posted by: William Cardy | April 26, 2007 12:58 AM

God Bless Bill Moyers .. !

Posted by: Richard Bohn | April 26, 2007 12:58 AM

Mainstream media is horrible, before the war and now. I didn't see any mention, before the war or now, of the fact that our government lied us into and lied about the Vietnam war. see The Media Plays Along With Powerful Interests This omission was in addition to not telling the public that Bush's planned war was illegal. A preemptive attack on Iraq violates the United Nations Charter, which is a treaty and part of the supreme law of the United States under Article 6, clause 2 of the U.S. Constitution. The U.S. signed the UN Charter and we are obligated to uphold the law according to our own Constitution. A treaty that we sign becomes the "law of the land" according to our Constitution.

Posted by: Tom Murphy | April 26, 2007 12:58 AM

missed the first 10 minutes of the show but the rest was enlightening. Why did we go to war?What is the payoff?

Posted by: alice gamble | April 26, 2007 12:57 AM

Hope you read this far Dear Knight Ridder, Years of coordinated name calling the messenger “the criminal liberal media” set the stage of this psychological failure against a propaganda machine. The individuals and institution of the press shall get redemption when instead of playing polite, they play their responsibility to journalism. Thank you for playing your responsibility. -rick dewald

Posted by: rick dewald | April 26, 2007 12:57 AM

Thanks for your great work. I was clear from the beginning that my local paper, the Washington Post, was (and still is) completely bamboozled by the White House on Iraq. I hope it's not too late for a Pulitzer for you guys. You deserve it. John Aldriedge

Posted by: John Aldriedge | April 26, 2007 12:57 AM

Isn't this interesting? You've tapped into something BIG here. I think we're all suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder, having been lied into an immoral, horrific war, and KNOWING IT, but being made to feel (by the administration's BIG LIE with the (witting or unwitting) help of Big Media as if we'd STEPPED THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS and now finally being reminded of the TRUTH that we knew all along... well, it does make one want to do something REAL, like the towns and State Senate in Vermont did-- the ones who voted to IMPEACH. Yes, Virginia, there is REALITY outside of the Beltway-- But that doesn't mean if we ignore what is INSIDE the Beltway That it will just quietly GO AWAY.

Posted by: k | April 26, 2007 12:57 AM

PROJECT for a NEW AMERICAN CENTURY. Will it EVER be recognized as the guiding force behind the Iraqi disaster? I thank Bill Moyers. There's still hope for this country.

Posted by: Bob Kirk | April 26, 2007 12:56 AM

I'm frustrated watching tonight's program because there is no mention of Robert Scheer, whose writing used to appear in the Los Angeles Times. He questioned the Bush Administration's line from the start and provided evidence countering the assertions of Rumsfield, Cheney and Rice. I consider him a hero -- an unwavering voice of sanity -- and I want to see him get credit for it.

Posted by: Moira Nelson | April 26, 2007 12:56 AM

I must admit that, as just an ordinary citizen (though perhaps a particularly well read one), it took me a long time to figure out how come the public bought the Bush administration's "case" for war in the first place. It was obvious to anyone who knew history that Hussein was not going to be aligned with Al Qaeda and that his weakened, impoverished country posed no threat to us. Why did journalists who were IN THE BUSINESS not think things through? Are they so addicted to "he said/she said" reporting that they can inject NO analysis or common sense into what they present to the public? Why did Dan Rather not examine the forged National Guard documents which he touted (and which doomed his career) critically, so as not to permanently compromise his credibility with the public? And if the Knight Ridder journalists were really so dedicated, why did we not see more of a fuss from them and their publications? Something has been terribly wrong all along, and while it's good that this special documents it after the fact I cannot let these "journalists" off the hook for not doing more at the time.

Posted by: Citizen | April 26, 2007 12:55 AM

Thank you for being real journalists, by which I really mean people who value truth and engage in critical thinking to pursue it. Even beyond the Iraq issue, you demonstrated on the show tonight what the process of critical thinking is in action. You were not satisfied with what you were hearing, so you were skeptical and kept asking questions. This is the essence of critical thinking, and critical thinking is the main defense against language serving to obfuscate reality (rhetoric). Valuing truth and pursuing it through reason (critical thinking) is rare in our species, society and even in your profession. It is virtually absent from the public discourse on almost all important societal issues and problems. This absence of critical thinking - which knows no political or other bounds - is the fundamental reason why we are in zugswang in Iraq and for most of our other important binds and problems. By contrast, Peter Beinhart illustrated what critical thinking is NOT - when he spoke of reading lots of material, i.e. of consuming information. However important information is, critical thinking, i.e. asking questions and thinking about things, including what one reads, is more important. Beyond the specific issue of...

Posted by: Randall Bosin | April 26, 2007 12:55 AM

Good evening, I just finished watching your broadcast, congratulations on a job well done. I am Canadian, and studied middle eastern politics at McGill from 2001-2003. Among my professors were senior Canadian advisors to the middle east, and world-leading experts on the Arab-Israeli conflict. To be honest, watching the US media cover Iraq in the months before the invasion could be described as comical. There were a lot of bright people in my classes at McGill, and nearly everyone predicted chaos if the US chose to invade. Hanz Blix didn't find any evidence of WMD in Iraq, and the UN did not support the invasion. It was interesting studying this story from a Canadian perspective. We, like much of the rest of the world, could not understand how the US media gave the invasion a greenlight from the beginning. The day our Prime Minister, Jean Chretien stood up in the House of Commons and told the US that we would not support a US led invasion was a proud moment for all Canadians. We have always been labelled as lap-dogs to the US, but on the biggest issue in the last 25 years, we simply said no. Al Quaeda was...

Posted by: Brian Friesen | April 26, 2007 12:55 AM

What ever happened to "Question Authority" ? My question is with all the BS provided by the Bush administration, what are the real reasons behind the war ? Oil, unacceptance of a draw during the Gulf War, or the utopic view that the US could prop up a democratic Arab stae ?

Posted by: Larry W | April 26, 2007 12:55 AM

Well Done, I just watched the show and it was the first primetime tv critique of Operation Iraqi Liberation (OIL) that I've seen. It was interesting to hear the CEO of CNN say that they were snapped into line by FOX's aggressive reporting tactics. To examing this fear more closely I'd recommend the documentary 'Outfoxed: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism' Also I recently saw the documentary 'Iraq for $ale' and would recommend it if you liked this. Keep digging KR! Moyers Thank you.

Posted by: Dan | April 26, 2007 12:54 AM

Mr. Landay and Mr. Strobel Thank you for an excellent job. You two and Bill Moyers may be our last line of defense against "1984". The question we all need to ask now is ... when will Bush go to jail for all the death, pain, and destruction his lies have caused? Bush has changed the course of human history and taken ALL of us down a road that may lead to many more years of death, destruction, and darkness. When will Bush pay for what his lies have already caused and the darkness that may cover our planet in the future as a result of his lies and actions? I sincerely hope Buying The War will air again so more people will know the truth. Thank you for your excellent work.

Posted by: George Benton | April 26, 2007 12:54 AM

OK, good show tonight, but I am not ready to forgive anyone in the media just yet. I am so freaked out and paranoid about all this that I am looking for the reason behind the sudden "change of heart" My theory: the media knows the jig is up. The public is starting to wake up. In order to save face and allow for the continued destruction of the United States.....now you guys are going to come out like it wasn’t your fault that things went so bad. You will blame it all on the Busheys and try to come out like the hero who is setting the record straight. What about the big boys who are controlling the media? like the CFR, Trilateral Commission and Bilderberg? When you guys are on every TV news station and the front page of every newspaper warning the public about them and all their minions, telling the real story about 911 and their plans to destroy our country....then you can say you are sorry....until then...this is just another shock and awe campaign to distract the public from the real danger we are in. It is not the terrorist we should be afraid of...

Posted by: Cindy | April 26, 2007 12:54 AM

This is the only place in broadcast journalism where we were going to see this truth. Spectacular show...please repeat it. I feel like crying. How can this administration be punished for their criminal deceit, the disaster they were determined to initiate, and the lives of 3000 dead young Americans which they wasted without mercy?

Posted by: John Camerlo | April 26, 2007 12:54 AM

Thanks so much for a great show! We've missed you Mr. Moyers! I was a huge fan of "Now" & was dismayed by what the "patriot police" managed to do to a national treasure like Mr. Moyers! Thanks to the KR reporters - I've been reading your reports for years. It's good to see the guys who are telling the the truth instead of the ones who spin the best for a change. An aside - I'd love to see a show delving into the Republican propaganda machine & Cheney & Rove's manipulation of the media. (The name Merrie Spaeth pops to mind.)There is a machine at the center & for the last couple of decades it's been responsible for many, many "untruths" which have caused extensive damage to our democracy. Thanks again & I'm looking forward to Friday !

Posted by: Pam Irwin | April 26, 2007 12:53 AM

Thank you, for giving us reason to believe the press has not been completely co-opted in this era of corporately controlled media.

Posted by: Douglas Hoyt | April 26, 2007 12:53 AM

Bravo, bravo, bravo! Watching and reading about events leading up to the US invasion of Iraq from north of the 49th parallel none of it was making sense and it wasn't making sense that it didn't make sense because, well, we thought that there were so many great newspapers and talented people, that any day one of them was going to connect the dots and see that this was a giant con! I suppose there is some comfort in knowing that what I thought I was seeing and hearing was in fact what was going on. But it is a very cold comfort, if any comfort at all. We can only hope and pray that the American media learns the lessons so clearly and thoughtfully revealed in your programme. Thank you, Cathy

Posted by: Cathy Cavanaugh | April 26, 2007 12:52 AM

Mr. Landay and Mr. Strobel Thank you for an excellent job. You two and Bill Moyers may be our last line of defense against "1984". The question we all need to ask now is ... when will Bush go to jail for all the death, pain, and destruction his lies have caused? Bush has changed the course of human history and taken ALL of us down a road that may lead to many more years of death, destruction, and darkness. When will Bush pay for what his lies have already caused and the darkness that may cover our planet in the future as a result of his lies and actions? I sincerely hope Buying The War will air again so more people will know the truth. Thank you for your excellent work.

Posted by: George Benton | April 26, 2007 12:52 AM

Great show .. Bill Moyers is a national treasure and I can only hope that journalists like Mr. Landay & Mr. Strobel become a shining example for a future generation of reporters.. as far as Mr. Beinart, I can only hope that he is properly chastened... not sure how he feels now, I will look at one of his books to determine his position. I do know that back in 2002, when he was punditing for the invasion on various tv shows he came off to me as very smarmy, a most naive fellow who was seduced by all of the attention. I think anyone with an opinion should be judged by their experience with the particular subject. I argued against invading Iraq at my cousin "the NYC policemans" wedding within a month of 9/11... argued off and on all night with my cousins the NYC firefighters who had only gotten an afternoon off from the pile to attend the celebration. Mostly good natured because they know I'm not a complete commie pinko fag and we all lost friends there. but it took a few years before a few of them are starting to hear what I have been saying...

Posted by: Darren | April 26, 2007 12:52 AM

GREAT REPORTING!!!!!!!!! 1} Does Congress has grounds for impeachment of Bush for fabricating a case for war? By the Geneva laws, he qualifies to be prosecuted. 2) Not comparing on the same level, I think that now, the American people can somehow understand how the German people supported Hitler on his wars. By building little by little a case, and cornering the press to support its case. 3) I disagree with Mr. Dan Rather for explaining his support based on the fact that the press depends on the government in many points. This is scary, because it suggests that the government controls the press. In this case, we the people are in big trouble. We depend on you to keep us above water.

Posted by: November9 | April 26, 2007 12:51 AM

Thanks again to Bill Moyers for bringing us this program. My husband and I never believed the hype leading up to war and it did not make us popular with even some friends. We are lucky enough to read The Nation. We cancelled The New Republic as soon as they backed the Contras. Then we knew they had sold out to official Washington. We hold Tony Blair and Colin Powel even more responsible for the mess in Iraq. They were the two people who gave respectability to this lying administration. Those who planned and executed this war have to answer for the misery and deaths it has bought to millions. From the very beginning this was nothing but a war for profit. The whole administration should be tried as war criminals.

Posted by: carole | April 26, 2007 12:51 AM

Thank God for Bill Moyers.

Posted by: Richard Bohn | April 26, 2007 12:51 AM

"PROJECT for a NEW AMERICAN CENTURY". Will it EVER be exposed as the guiding force behind this ongoing disaster? Even a journalist as courageous as Moyers has to traipse carefully around the subject. The 40-year USS Liberty coverup will probably come to light sooner. I thank God for Bill Moyers, Amy Goodman, et.al.

Posted by: Bob | April 26, 2007 12:51 AM

OPPS! Sorry for all the repeats below but it is a point that bears repeating.

Posted by: Roy Smith | April 26, 2007 12:50 AM

Thanks Mr. Landay and Mr. Strobel for being true to yourselves and your profession. How do we see your comments/answers to these questions ? Thank you Bill Moyers for coming back to PBS. We need you now more than ever. Todd

Posted by: Todd | April 26, 2007 12:50 AM

Good evening, I just finished watching your broadcast, congratulations on a job well done. I am Canadian, and studied middle eastern politics at McGill from 2001-2003. Among my professors were senior Canadian advisors to the middle east, and world-leading experts on the Arab-Israeli conflict. To be honest, watching the US media cover Iraq in the months before the invasion could be described as comical. There were a lot of bright people in my classes at McGill, and nearly everyone predicted chaos if the US chose to invade. Hanz Blix didn't find any evidence of WMD in Iraq, and the UN did not support the invasion. It was interesting studying this story from a Canadian perspective. We, like much of the rest of the world, could not understand how the US media gave the invasion a greenlight from the beginning. The day our Prime Minister, Jean Chretien stood up in the House of Commons and told the US that we would not support a US led invasion was a proud moment for all Canadians. We have always been labelled as lap-dogs to the US, but on the biggest issue in the last 25 years, we simply said no. Al Quaeda was...

Posted by: Brian Friesen | April 26, 2007 12:49 AM

Excellent work Bill, Jonathan and Warren! and thak g*d for PBS! you and Bill Maher give me hope. I live in NYC and have unfruitfully tried a few times to find Knight Ridder/McClatchy news articles on-line. If possible, please send me links. BTW -in case you didn't know: Bill Maher gave Knight Ridder props in his last episode for getting it right only a few days after the war propaganda storm began. Keep up the great work! Thanks! -es

Posted by: esther | April 26, 2007 12:49 AM

Great show but why no mention of the Project for the New Ameican Century, planning the war years before 9-11? I'm guessing those who think Saddam worked hand in hand with Bin Laden can name all the "Idols" and those voted off the island. I'm also guessing those same people would rather have red hot knitting needles jammed in their eyes rather than watch gthat Moyers guy on PBS But they can rdest easy. We have the Patriot Act.

Posted by: Paul Hess | April 26, 2007 12:49 AM

Too late, too late. When will you begin to speak out about the lies told to us about 9-11. I feel like I live in the land of the Emperor who wears no clothes. I am 65 years old and have supported my country and my government all my life. Now I don't even recognize this America. Please tell me how these criminals have taken over our wonderful country. Will anyone support the impeachment of Cheny? In light of your report tonight, how much evidence do we need?

Posted by: Julia | April 26, 2007 12:49 AM

Thomas Jefferson offered, "The tree of democracy need be watered from time to time with the blood of patriots and the blood of tyrants". When we listen to the drum beat of the 2008 presidential candidates, most want more of the same for Iraq. God help our nation. Americans should truly appreciate your passion for the truth. May you never get so comfortable or so famous that you lose it. Skip Little Rock

Posted by: Skip | April 26, 2007 12:49 AM

Mr. Landay, Mr. Strobel, thank you for the great journalism. What is the next major administration lie you think is important for reporters to debunk?

Posted by: Chuck Robinson | April 26, 2007 12:48 AM

Although tonight's program was very well done, I do feel there was adequate information readily available in the general media to make one seriously skeptical about some of the claims made by the Bush administration in the lead up to war. As I recall, Ted Koppel's Nightline, and PBS's Macneil-Lehrer had quite a few in depth pieces. Although I do not have cable TV, these 2 programs seemed to make it abundantly clear there were serious unanswered questions and credibilty gaps in Bush administration claims. Is there any reason these 2 mainstream news progrmas were not mentioned in tonight's piece? Perhaps the media is not to blame for the selling of this war. It seems to me the American public was simply too lazy, too stupid, or too preoccupied with trivial life concerns to ask some very basic intellectual questions as the rest of the world was doing. In a democracy, where our leaders presumably do what the voters indicate is the will of the people, perhaps we deserve to be stuck in this quagmire we weren't interested enough to avoid. Aren't you frustrated that more readers didn't further dissemination of your information?

Posted by: debora chan | April 26, 2007 12:48 AM

Bravo, Bravo, BRAVO! Thank you to all involved! You have given me a glimpse of the America I once knew and thought had died! To everyone out there in the Media (I mean everyone in every position) Please don't abandon your posts again! You are the foundation of our democratic society - Discourse, debate, facts, are endangered species ! I can't wait for next weeks airing! (Sooo glad I wasn't "shopping" - just a little W joke)

Posted by: Kathy O | April 26, 2007 12:48 AM

Thomas Jefferson offered, "The tree of democracy need be watered from time to time with the blood of patriots and the blood of tyrants". When we listen to the drum beat of the 2008 presidential candidates, most want more of the same for Iraq. God help our nation. Americans should truly appreciate your passion for the truth. May you never get so comfortable or so famous that you lose it. Skip Little Rock

Posted by: Skip | April 26, 2007 12:48 AM

Shame on the Times and shame on the Post! I'll get my "news" somewhere else (KR and PBS) in the future. I don't want revenge. I would like accountability for the lies that have killed 3,000+ of our boys and girls, tens of thousands of Iraqis and made the world infinitely less safe for all of us. Do they just get away with it? They crucified Clinton with scurrilous, vitriolic attacks for a harmless affair that pales in comparison with the death and destruction wrought on the Iraqis, our children, and their families. Will there be no accountability on this Earth for these horrendous, boldface, manipulative lies and fabrications? Gentlemen, does the media lack stomach for that fight too?

Posted by: Regis Cunningham | April 26, 2007 12:47 AM

The show was frightening. Those who were not fooled were marginalized. Those who could not be pushed to the margins were fired. In the last ten seconds of the show when I heard that those who carried the administration's water are working at what I assume are good jobs and continue to be "darlings" in the talk show and lecture circuits. I was appalled. They and their bosses are in denial of what they wrought, which suggests to me that they were complicit in the lies and deception all along. Why else would they refuse to condemn those who promulgated those lies? If we cannot learn from the current debacle, it will certainly happen again. Dennis Kucinich has introduced House Resolution 333 to impeach V.P. Cheney. Support him in this fight. This man shows courage that is lacking elseware in Congress. Show your support for him by calling your congressional representative and asking they co-sponsor his resolution. Click for a video clip of his press conference.

Posted by: Philip Lange | April 26, 2007 12:47 AM

William Krystol was asked to be in an interview and declined? Small wonder. Take a look at the role of the Project for the New American Century (PNAC), which includes William Krystol, George Bush, Karl Rove, Richard Perle, Scooter Libby, Donald Rumsfeld, and Richard Armitage as members. PNAC sent a letter to Bill Clinton urging him to attack Iraq. Most of the people who caused the U.S. to get preemptive attack are members of the PNAC. Krystol is not unbiased; he has been actively involved. The role of this group and other right wing conservative "think tanks" should be investigated, IMHO. Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PNAC

Posted by: Bill | April 26, 2007 12:47 AM

Have you read David Ray Griffin's piece in Tikkun.org? http://tikkun.org/magazine/tik0703/frontpage/empire911 The coverup may go deeper than you all have been portraying. Quite relevant, now that Giuliani is a candidate for our next president (if WTC7 was demolished, G may well have been involved). Jake

Posted by: Jake | April 26, 2007 12:47 AM

We can't bring back the dead. What a shame this so called war has been. Now what? People continue to die for nothing.

Posted by: Iris M. | April 26, 2007 12:46 AM

The sad role of the US media as cheerleaders for Bush, Cheney, and Company was well-presented. I must say that I never for one moment was even slightly persuaded by Powell's theatrical performance at the UN. Most member's of the UN were also unconvinced. I recall Dan Rather's shocking performance on the Letterman Show after 9/11. something to the effect that Bush is the President and when he says get in line, I get in line or something to that effect. I was shocked at the truthfulness of his comments. the press does get in line, but usually denies that fact, or makes some excuse. this has not changed. One ust keep that in mind always. The media was slow to turn during the Viet Nam era, but finally there was a change. Did that happen because corporate America had finally had enough? For those of us who remember Viet Nam, this unhappy misadventure is but another sorry chapter. Too bad Americans have so little understanding of history, geography, comparative religions and cultures. We are educated in business and the trades, such as my trade, medicine. The liberal arts are reidiculed. I think there is a direct connection. thank you...

Posted by: margaret king | April 26, 2007 12:46 AM

Very chilling. The "paper of record" certainly doesn't come off at all well. The definition of "facism" ...when the press and big business and the government are all run by the same men. Creepy My question is: What about Iran????

Posted by: Katie Pearlman | April 26, 2007 12:46 AM

Gentlemen: Your show tonight was insightful, but your commentary was about four years late. It is easy to find fault after the facts have been uncovered, like the lack of WMD. Your voices should have been louder and clearer during the leadup to the war. I get much of what is touted as fact from the media, the "experts", and the politicians. I don't think most of them should have been nor should be trusted for the "facts". As the public, where should we go to get accurate, reliable, and truthful information? For the most part, I rely on PBS and NPR. Is that a mistake also?

Posted by: Joe Hueser | April 26, 2007 12:45 AM

Bravo, Bravo, BRAVO! Thank you to all involved! You have given me a glimpse of the America I once knew and thought had died! To everyone out there in the Media (I mean everyone in every position) Please don't abandon your posts again! You are the foundation of our democratic society - Discourse, debate, facts, are endangered species ! I can't wait for next weeks airing! (Sooo glad I wasn't "shopping" - just a little W joke)

Posted by: Kathy O | April 26, 2007 12:45 AM

Speaking of journalist not asking the right questions- Why aren't reporters asking about the possible illegal actions or politically biased action of those Federal Attorneys left in place after eight were fired by the administration.

Posted by: Joe Rogers | April 26, 2007 12:45 AM

The sad role of the US media as cheerleaders for Bush, Cheney, and Company was well-presented. I must say that I never for one moment was even slightly persuaded by Powell's theatrical performance at the UN. Most member's of the UN were also unconvinced. I recall Dan Rather's shocking performance on the Letterman Show after 9/11. something to the effect that Bush is the President and when he says get in line, I get in line or something to that effect. I was shocked at the truthfulness of his comments. the press does get in line, but usually denies that fact, or makes some excuse. this has not changed. One ust keep that in mind always. The media was slow to turn during the Viet Nam era, but finally there was a change. Did that happen because corporate America had finally had enough? For those of us who remember Viet Nam, this unhappy misadventure is but another sorry chapter. Too bad Americans have so little understanding of history, geography, comparative religions and cultures. We are educated in business and the trades, such as my trade, medicine. The liberal arts are reidiculed. I think there is a direct connection. thank you...

Posted by: margaret king | April 26, 2007 12:44 AM

My family is one which has had the misfortune of losing a son and brother to the war in Iraq. I knew when the Bush Administration was calling for invasion in Iraq that the probability of WMD's didn't exist. If indeed Saddam had them he would have pointed them anywhere he could. However, I was moved when Collin Powell gave his speech at the United Nations. I had so much respect for the man. But now I know he and others were puppets of some wierd plot to go to war to make millions for the contractors who have been flourishing in Iraq. I now know why there were few questions and research into the war mongering statements coming out of the Whitehouse. I now ask the same question Lee Iacoca asks in his new book. "Where are the new Leaders?" WEll we know where a couple of you have been. And now with Bill Moyers new program. I thank you for your work and bravery. thank you!

Posted by: pam lindsay | April 26, 2007 12:44 AM

I took Powell's bait, hook line and sinker. I've been mad as hades ever since. My question: 9/11 saw mostly Saudi Nationalist involved. Bin Laden took credit as well. The Saudi link has NEVER been investigated....WHY??? Finally, why haven't the Downing Street minutes of 2002, the "smoking gun" revealing "the fixing of facts" for war never been fully covered by you or anyone else in the US media??? Those minutes alone prove the lies and deception of this war. Thanks for your work- Rev. Bradford N. Bray, Ret Capt USAF-ANG of this bs war.

Posted by: Bradford Nelson Bray | April 26, 2007 12:43 AM

Thank You for your truth in reporting. This link gives one of the best explanation for the cabal's launch of this war. http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=CHO20070104&articleId=4347 Plus quick history lesson... http://www.mapsofwar.com/images/EMPIRE17.swf

Posted by: Dan | April 26, 2007 12:43 AM

Dear Jonathan and Warren, Thank you for not doubting yourselves and for daring to speak the truth even though everyone else in "big" media was eating out of the mis-administration's hand in the run-up to this senseless war. You deserve the Pulitzer prize for your reporting. Thanks to you, Bill Moyers, and PBS for tonight's program. I am delighted, as someone who has always opposed this war, that the story of how "big" media was used as a propaganda tool is finally being told. I only hope the media and the American people will learn the many lessons of this horrific war so that nothing like it happens in the future. The Bush mis-administration's deception and its consequences should be grounds for impeaching and convicting Bush and Cheney. They are both guilty of crimes against humanity and I hope they are made to bear the consequences of what they have done. I know this will probably not happen, but it is what they and those they have wronged deserve. FYI, I've been trying to post since 10:30, the server is being overwhelmed by our comments! This is great!

Posted by: Denise K. | April 26, 2007 12:43 AM

Congratulations and thank you . Your program left me believing that values such as honesty,integrity, and ethics are still to be found in American journalism. However,in adition to the role of the media,what should also be examined are the motives behind the deliberate falsehoods of the Bush administration, and would the US be emproiled in the Iraqi war if Sadam were a friend of Israel.

Posted by: alec | April 26, 2007 12:43 AM

If we as citizens do not hold these administration people criminally accountable from the president to the former officials,then this American experiment of a government of law is finished.The first casualty of war is "Truth".

Posted by: alex | April 26, 2007 12:43 AM

Speaking of journalist not asking the right questions- Why aren't reporters asking about the possible illegal actions or politically biased action of those Federal Attorneys left in place after eight were fired by the administration.

Posted by: Joe Rogers | April 26, 2007 12:42 AM

Bravo, Bravo, BRAVO! Thank you to all involved! You have given me a glimpse of the America I once knew and thought had died! To everyone out there in the Media (I mean everyone in every position) Please don't abandon your posts again! You are the foundation of our democratic society - Discourse, debate, facts, are endangered species ! I can't wait for next weeks airing! (Sooo glad I wasn't "shopping" - just a little W joke)

Posted by: Kathy O | April 26, 2007 12:42 AM

Just wanted to thank you for getting Bill Moyers back on the air, and thanks to both of the reporters in the documentary. It's been noticed in the blogosphere that McClatchy is reporting good stuff. Well, now we know why. Keep it up. Many thanks for your perserverance.

Posted by: Jan w | April 26, 2007 12:42 AM

Thomas Jefferson offered, "The tree of democracy need be watered from time to time with the blood of patriots and the blood of tyrants". You guys qualify for the patriot role and GWB plays well the other part. Americans should truly appreciate your passion for the truth. May you never get so comfortable or so famous that you lose it. Skip Little Rock

Posted by: Skip | April 26, 2007 12:41 AM

I want to personally thank Mr Moyers and the good professionals at Knight Ridder. I am just sorry that the full impact of this horrendous deception was not apparent to the various candidates running for the presidency in 2004. I wanted to believe that John Kerry could make a difference, but I was frankly stunned that he did not once make a reference to the concerted deceptions, masterfully crafted to steer the Senate into a vote for war. When asked why he voted for war, he would present a lame defence, where, if he had simply read the NY Times article, "Skewed Intelligence Data In March to War in Iraq" which spanned several full pages in the Sunday Times on October 3rd 2004, he would have had the best possible defence for his vote. He was lied to. Period. For those who haven't had the pleasure, this article (by David Barstow, William Broad & Jeff Gerth) will fill in the real hard evidence of this mass deception, centering around the full story of the discovery and nature of the aluminum "centrifuge" tubes, which were proven to be typical tubes used in the manufacture of mortar launchers, and furthermore, were purchased...

Posted by: peter g | April 26, 2007 12:41 AM

Gentlemen, I first want to applaud your efforts and steadfast resolution in not falling into line like most mainstream news affiliations. My question for you is this - in a time where we as a nation are beginning to reflect more with our minds than emotion, is there hope for the media to re-establish itself was a force for holding politicians culpable for their indiscretions and lack of foresight, or will the political machinist media continue to run rampant feeding the minds of ill-informed citizens who have bought into their rhetoric from the start? Thank you again for staying true to what every journalist should hold sacred - their skepticism. Jim

Posted by: James | April 26, 2007 12:41 AM

Even now, the media in general continues to fail to do its job in the face of mounting investigations pointing to an administration that has proven time and again to be so consistently wrong. The biggest indictment of the job the media in general is doing now is that one third of the country still believes that Saddam Hussein had something to do with the September 11 attacks. Sometimes I am left wondering if I am the one who is wrong and I am guilty of seeing conspiracies where there are none. If it were not for reporters like yourselves, who remained loyal to the American people and the ideals and responsibilities of being a member of the Fourth Estate even while facing being labeled unpatriotic, we would not be where we are now, trying to find a way out. I don't know how you did it for so long, and I can't imagine how much criticism you and others might have taken these past few years, but thank you gentleman for all your hard work.

Posted by: Sandra R. | April 26, 2007 12:41 AM

Thanks for the good work. I read Hubris, but don't recall your names coming up. Is your reporting collected or summarized in any single source?

Posted by: Dick Watson | April 26, 2007 12:41 AM

Each day, conservative reporters at ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS, etc. uses and spotlight these same false and glorified lies of heroism, from the Bush administration, along side the bodies of dead US soldiers as hallowed justification for further support and promotion of Bush's wars. These bias network reports suggest, on the bodies of selected dead soldiers, that all the thousands of innocent fallen soldiers died willingly for them and Bush's war? However, the networks never provided equal time or show the majority of soldiers or families’ of dead soldiers who objected to them dying in this needless war! And this is understandable when you take into consideration that CBS and NBC are defense contractors and their reporters like Tim Russerts were the most relentless, loudest, cheer-leading, instigators, and questioners on what Clinton, Bush, America, etc. was going to do about Saddam Hussein? Most every Sunday there was this constant theme and call for war by conservative like Cheney, Rove, Rumsfeld, and Tim Russert! If the conservative and corporate owned media had done their job and challenged Bush’s pre war claims on Iraq and Afghanistan then Mr. Tillman's family probably would not have lost their son or had to struggle to...

Posted by: Chuck Cosby | April 26, 2007 12:40 AM

Thank You, for your efforts to discover and report the facts to those who are interested. Please listen to the NPR interview with David Halberstam on 4-24-07 on Fresh Air (host Terry Gross). After hearing this interview, I was proud of responsible democratic freedom of thought. Hearing about the pressure Mr. Halberstam endured from the US government while he put the Vietnam War under his microscope was a bit of a revelation. Halberstam should be held as 'the standard' in reporting. For those who care; plenty care but you have to care enough, keep admitting mistakes, keep the microscope handy, and let discover stay in motion. With gratitude, I say: realize how important you are to those of us who cannot get access to the info. you can. As we can see, someone can be as honest as they know and still not see or have access to the truth. Honest mistakes are made. The intentional manipulation of the facts must be made public, if at all possoble.I intend to show this program to those who may be interested asap. Bless you all.

Posted by: S.L. Phillips | April 26, 2007 12:40 AM

Dear Jonathan and Warren, Thank you for not doubting yourselves and for daring to speak the truth even though everyone else in "big" media was eating out of the mis-administration's hand in the run-up to this senseless war. You deserve the Pulitzer prize for your reporting. Thanks to you, Bill Moyers, and PBS for tonight's program. I am delighted, as someone who has always opposed this war, that the story of how "big" media was used as a propaganda tool is finally being told. I only hope the media and the American people will learn the many lessons of this horrific war so that nothing like it happens in the future. The Bush mis-administration's deception and its consequences should be grounds for impeaching and convicting Bush and Cheney. They are both guilty of crimes against humanity and I hope they are made to bear the consequences of what they have done. I know this will probably not happen, but it is what they and those they have wronged deserve. FYI, I've been trying to post since 10:30, the server is being overwhelmed by our comments! This is great!

Posted by: Denise K. | April 26, 2007 12:40 AM

I thought this presented a long list of traitors to this country and adversaries to peace and world order. I wonder when we'll see the end of the damage their collective efforts have done.

Posted by: Trevor | April 26, 2007 12:39 AM

Thank you and Great Job!!!

Posted by: Vivek Kumar | April 26, 2007 12:39 AM

Okay - The question is "What Now?" How can the damage be reversed - in this country, let alone the rest of the world and Iraq. Great broadcast although this was obvious to some of us from the beginning.

Posted by: Jean Sheffer | April 26, 2007 12:38 AM

To Messers Moyers, Landay and Strobel: Thanks, gents. The tale told tonight was a frustrating one but its appearance reminds me that "the truth will out" and what you reported had the ring of it. Mr Moyers's introduction was tonic in its terseness and clarity. Let's hope that the message spreads past the usual PBS fraction. David Ware

Posted by: david ware | April 26, 2007 12:38 AM

Great documentary Bill, will be an important historical record. And thank you to Messrs. Landay and Strobel, whose pieces i've read online since 2002, and which provided just about the only light in the darkness. You guys are the real thng!

Posted by: stephen miller | April 26, 2007 12:38 AM

I thought this presented a long list of traitors to this country and adversaries to peace and world order. I wonder when we'll see the end of the damage their collective efforts have done.

Posted by: Trevor | April 26, 2007 12:38 AM

Just finished watching here in Oregon - Thank you, Thank You, THANK YOU PBS for sharing this wonderful program! Finally truth is coming out! I hope it is not too late to change the course of America! So many scary things happening. I may have missed it ( I've got a toddler) but was any mention made of the changes that have become part of our country due to the lack of opposition to the administration? The patriot act? The "anti-torture" bill that took away Habeaus Corpus 6 months ago? What can we, the people, do to change current events?

Posted by: Heather Ann | April 26, 2007 12:38 AM

Thanks to all involved for this report. Welcome back Bill Moyers. Many comments ask about impeachment. In my view it's not practical because the Republicans could drag it out until this administration is out of office & it would tie up the Congress so the Democrats couldn't get anything done. A war crimes trial for all the culprits after they are out of power is a better idea. As for the other oft repeated question: What was the real reason for the war? The answer is OIL. Google "The New Iraq Oil Law" & you'll find all you need to know about that. The reason for the 'surge' is to keep troops in place until the law is passed. Then, of course, they will have to stay to protect the oil production facilities until we have stolen it all. If you want sources more trustworthy than the U.S. media, try BBC & Asia Times on line.

Posted by: Reg Clarke | April 26, 2007 12:37 AM

To Mssrs. Landray and Strobel: I just want to say thank you. I did follow your stories (as well as the weapons inspectors' reports that were, indeed, out there for everyone to see). I was, and still am, appalled at the lack of the most basic reporting skills exhibited by the rest of the mainstream press. I only wish you guys had been nominated for, and won, the Pulitzer. And to Mr. Moyers, thank you as well for giving us years of genuine reportage on important issues.

Posted by: Virginia | April 26, 2007 12:37 AM

You guys were great! What do you know of something called The Downing Street Memo? Thank you.

Posted by: paula Cunningham | April 26, 2007 12:37 AM

Shame on the Times and shame on the Post! I'll get my "news" somewhere else (KR and PBS) in the future. I don't want revenge. I would like accountability for the lies that have killed 3,000+ of our boys and girls, tens of thousands of Iraqis and made the world infinitely less safe for all of us. Do they just get away with it? They crucified Clinton with scurrilous, vitriolic attacks for a harmless affair that pales in comparison with the death and destruction wrought on the Iraqis, our children, and their families. Will there be no accountability on this Earth for these horrendous, boldface, manipulative lies and fabrications? Gentlemen, does the media lack stomach for that fight too?

Posted by: Regis Cunningham | April 26, 2007 12:36 AM

I've heard Scott Ritter speak several times and I find him highly credible. I have never understood why he wasn't listened to and highlighted during the debate about WMD pre-invasion of Iraq. Why?

Posted by: nancy | April 26, 2007 12:36 AM

The fear factor played a great role in what happened - fear on the part of the President and the rest of his staff, for their own safety and, one supposes, for the nation. They acted in panic mode - the only explanation for their duplicity, failure to persist in asking the right questions; they believed we would go along with anything because we were also in a panic after 9/11 - and they were right! What they got wrong was how their attack would play out in a part of the world they didn't understand at all. It's the arrogance and ignorance and lack of good judgment of everyone at the top in a decision-making position that stuns the mind. The number of Iraqi dead was very carefully evaluated and reported in an article which appeared in The Lancet, a premium medical journal, a year ago. It is more than ten times the number Mr. Moyers quoted. Deepest thanks for a superb presentation, and deepest appreciation for the journalists who saw through the fabrications. Nora Klein

Posted by: Nora Klein | April 26, 2007 12:36 AM

I really don't blame the media as much as some, I think. Intelligent, concerned citizens could have seen the whitewash that was being given us by the white house in 2002 and 2003. I did. It is my opinion that his country as a whole was hellbent for going to war. What's amazing now to me now is how the greatest country in the world is still unable to find Obama Bin Laden and the press still doesn't seem to be pressuring the White House to really do something about it. But it wouldn't surprise me at all to see something actually accomplished in that regard prior to the upcoming election just to make republicans and conservatives look good. p.s. the interview with Phil Donahue was the most unnerving. What his bosses were telling him and what happened in the end is just so wrong and unpatriotic. I am so glad I do not have or watch cable television.

Posted by: Dave | April 26, 2007 12:35 AM

Wolfowitz had promised Americans wouldn't pay for the war. Why does the administration ask that this undeclared war continue to be funded by an emergency supplemental instead of being part of the DoD budget? The prez has asked for a specified amount and we have the past 4 years to reflect on and estimate real costs. And why don't Democrats now put it in the budget rather than comply with the Prez' request for the money, timetables notwithstanding?

Posted by: Jeff L. | April 26, 2007 12:35 AM

I want to personally thank Mr Moyers and the good professionals at Knight Ridder. I am just sorry that the full impact of this horrendous deception was not apparent to the various candidates running for the presidency in 2004. I wanted to believe that John Kerry could make a difference, but I was frankly stunned that he did not once make a reference to the concerted deceptions, masterfully crafted to steer the Senate into a vote for war. When asked why he voted for war, he would present a lame defence, where, if he had simply read the NY Times article, "Skewed Intelligence Data In March to War in Iraq" which spanned several full pages in the Sunday Times on October 3rd 2004, he would have had the best possible defence for his vote. He was lied to. Period. For those who haven't had the pleasure, this article (by David Barstow, William Broad & Jeff Gerth) will fill in the real hard evidence of this mass deception, centering around the full story of the discovery and nature of the aluminum "centrifuge" tubes, which were proven to be typical tubes used in the manufacture of mortar launchers, and furthermore, were purchased...

Posted by: peter g | April 26, 2007 12:35 AM

Anybody here double-checking the stories written by Landay and Strobel? You should be. By the way, regional papers outside the beltway did publish some of their stories. Remember, there are other credible news sources besides the Post, the Times, CNN and MSNBC. There are many dedicated journalists working every day in lower profile papers. Doesn't anyone else remember reading and hearing about dissent before the war? It was definitely out there.

Posted by: Joe | April 26, 2007 12:34 AM

I am a grateful American. Thank you for your stellar reporting. The truth is out. The main stream press has become a flaming bag of poop on the doorstep of America. It's time to stomp it out.

Posted by: William B. Miller | April 26, 2007 12:34 AM

You guys were great! What do you know of something called The Downing Street Memo? Thank you.

Posted by: paula Cunningham | April 26, 2007 12:34 AM

A great place to voice concerns regarding this topic is this upcoming FCC public hearing on media ownership Monday in Tampa, FL. The FCC is charged with ensuring that the media operate in the "public interest." Clearly, the "public interest" wasn't addressed in this case, and while a direct tie between inadequate journalism and ownership deregulation is often refuted by the same inadequate journalists that overlooked prewar intelligence, the Moyers suggested such a problem in many cases. Here's a link to info on the FCC hearing: http://www.freepress.net/news/22411

Posted by: T.C. | April 26, 2007 12:33 AM

This is what TV should be about a thought provoking thorough review that stimulated me to think about these issues. I must admit that in the busy world we are often in I do not have the time to listen/read this type of journalism enough. After tonight you have stimulated me to do a better job. Keep it up and how do we get more of the Knight Ridder news?

Posted by: Glenn Mills | April 26, 2007 12:33 AM

Great job guys, from a former KR reporter (the Post-Tribune, Gary), your work was in the great traditions of Gene Roberts, Barlett and Steele, Gary Webb, et al. I had my students in the advanced journalism class I teach watching tonight. They certainly learned not only what not to do from the many journalists who pandered, but also they learned what to do from you. (If your mother says she loves you, check it out.) Mr. Moyers, great job, too, again. Many of the comments here are from people asking the question, why? It would be a great story if you could follow the money and answer the question. Regards, Joe Joe

Posted by: Joseph Conn | April 26, 2007 12:33 AM

Thank you for tonight's program. Unfortunately, it is more than a little late. Is America ready to find out that 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB?? Some of us KNOW a controlled demolition when we see one. On 911 we saw THREE. And, yes, there is lots of evidence. Do you reporters have the guts to do some REAL journalism?? Peace be upon the earth and among all beings.

Posted by: Roy Smith | April 26, 2007 12:33 AM

Our democracy if flawed; our media is infiltrated by opinions and egocentrics who want to exploit there jobs to be “players.” I find it absurd and stangely fascinating, however, how an alternate reality can arise and flourish. And I've decided "patriotism" is generally a bad thing--I've never been a patriot myself. I don't think it's right to pretend you or you're country is in a morally superior position. We pretend propaganda doesn't exist in America anymore, but after watching the program, I’m surprised FOX news didn't disperse something similar to the old “social realist” propaganda posters, with caricatures of Arab men with one hand on a detonator and the other reaching for our women and children. I think one should be wary and skeptical whenever fear seems to be the essence of a persuasive argument. I guess short doses of pathos driven news sells more than logos. It's a price we pay for capitalism, but it's worth it, it has to be--and it's too late to freak myself out with ideas of the superstructure and whether humanity is enslaved to the insatiable logic of its economies. Thanks for not being lazy, and not going with flow. P.S. I once read...

Posted by: Neil | April 26, 2007 12:32 AM

I had no idea that this show was airing tonight, however, below is relevant comment that I sent to CBS earlier today. Each day, conservative reporters at ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS, etc. uses and spotlight these same false and glorified lies of heroism, from the Bush administration, along side the bodies of dead US soldiers as hallowed justification for further support and promotion of Bush's wars. These bias network reports suggest, on the bodies of selected dead soldiers, that all the thousands of innocent fallen soldiers died willingly for them and Bush's war? However, the networks never provided equal time or show the majority of soldiers or families’ of dead soldiers who objected to them dying in this needless war! And this is understandable when you take into consideration that CBS and NBC are defense contractors and their reporters like Tim Russerts were the most relentless, loudest, cheer-leading, instigators, and questioners on what Clinton, Bush, America, etc. was going to do about Saddam Hussein? Most every Sunday there was this constant theme and call for war by conservative like Cheney, Rove, Rumsfeld, and Tim Russert! If the conservative and corporate owned media had done their job and challenged Bush’s pre...

Posted by: Chuck Cosby | April 26, 2007 12:32 AM

Anybody here double-checking the stories written by Landay and Strobel? You should be. By the way, regional papers outside the beltway did publish some of their stories. Remember, there are other credible news sources besides the Post, the Times, CNN and MSNBC. There are many dedicated journalists working every day in lower profile papers.

Posted by: Joe | April 26, 2007 12:32 AM

A great place to voice concerns regarding this topic is this upcoming FCC public hearing on media ownership Monday in Tampa, FL. The FCC is charged with ensuring that the media operate in the "public interest." Clearly, the "public interest" wasn't addressed in this case, and while a direct tie between inadequate journalism and ownership deregulation is often refuted by the same inadequate journalists that overlooked prewar intelligence, the Moyers suggested such a problem in many cases. Here's a link to info on the FCC hearing: http://www.freepress.net/news/22411

Posted by: T.C. | April 26, 2007 12:32 AM

Bill Moyers; You are one of the few Journalists left that had my trust. I'm sure disappointed in you now. I haven't heard such Revisionist History Clap Trap since the "Run Up to The War". I knew all the "Facts" that Bush & Co. were using were fake back then!! I was aghast that the 4th Estate wasn't doing it's job. There was a lot of Fact Checking going on at first. Bush would come on my TV and float some half baked reason for us to invade Iraq. None of them lasted a week. As I recall, it was the Friday before Thanksgiving when George sent up yet another Trial Balloon Issue, WMD. I expected it to be shot down by Monday evening. After all, I had heard 2 years back that the "Yellow Cake" and "tubes" had been investigated and there was no basis for concern. Instead everyone only had Softball questions about Their "Facts". I kept waiting for someone to trot out footage that had run on Nightly News shows or refer to articles printed in Newspapers or Magazines months earlier. It never happened. Now I'm left to wonder if the major faces and names we have...

Posted by: Gary Barr | April 26, 2007 12:32 AM

Wolfowitz had promised Americans wouldn't pay for the war. Why does the administration ask that this undeclared war continue to be funded by an emergency supplemental instead of being part of the DoD budget? The prez has asked for a specified amount and we have the passt 4 years fo reflect on and estimate real costs. And why don't Democrats now put it in the budget rather than comply with the Prez' request for the money, timetables notwithstanding?

Posted by: Jeff L. | April 26, 2007 12:31 AM

I really don't blame the media as much as some, I think. Intelligent, concerned citizens could have seen the whitewash that was being given us by the white house in 2002 and 2003. I did. It is my opinion that his country as a whole was hellbent for going to war. What's amazing now to me now is how the greatest country in the world is still unable to find Obama Bin Laden and the press still doesn't seem to be pressuring the White House to really do something about it. But it wouldn't surprise me at all to see something actually accomplished in that regard prior to the upcoming election just to make republicans and conservatives look good. p.s. the interview with Phil Donahue was the most unnerving. What his bosses were telling him and what happened in the end is just so wrong and unpatriotic. I am so glad I do not have or watch cable television.

Posted by: Dave | April 26, 2007 12:31 AM

Thank you for an inspiring and hopeful report. Hopeful that there are people likes yourselves who will look at issues with a critcal eye and ear. What was the goal for the war? Oil? It seems Pandora's Box was opened when Saddam was eliminated. Now, everyone's talking about putting the lid back on, forgetting the one(s) who created the problem in the first place. I would appreciate your comment. Thanks again.

Posted by: Ted Engelmann | April 26, 2007 12:30 AM

In hindsight, it appears your reports were bright but unseen by the decision makers. Many media managers were extremely cautious about reporting against the momentum of a prospective unilateral invasion. In critical situations like this, what media exists in the US that is insulated from the nationalist and economic pressures that threaten the ability to investigate and report the facts? Does the public require a certain minimum amount of balanced reporting in order for society to sustain a stable equilibrium? In other words, is there a key minimum amount of counterpoint that must be provided to prevent the public from being swayed by an avalanche of one-sided rhetoric and droning pundits. I would like to believe that the widely available PBS/NPR broadcasts fill the niche, but perhaps that is an illusion. I'm beginning to find that news sources based outside the US are a wonderful reality check, if not at least contributing to a holistic perspective. What fundamental changes are required in the way the American public gets its information to prevent such a tragic fiasco from reoccuring?

Posted by: Chris Boyer | April 26, 2007 12:30 AM

Knight_Ridder will now become my homepage for news. I never truly realized that even the journalists I trust, are being so strongly influenced by simply living and working within the DC/NYC nexus. Thank you for a spectacualr lesson in journalism, truth and the positive influence of healthy skepticism. My gratitude to Mr Moyers, and those intrepid and couragous reporters working at the Knight-Ridder newspaper chain.

Posted by: Lindsay Law | April 26, 2007 12:30 AM

I am a news Junkie. But for the last 10 years, I read my news at the BBC, I watch PBS and CSPAN for information. I never know that Knight Ridder was different from what we call reporting today. As of today, you guys will be on my daily reading list, because you do the type of investigative reporting the BBC is known for. I would be interesteing to know the URL where your reportings are posted. Thank you so much. Keep on investigating.

Posted by: Tommy | April 26, 2007 12:30 AM

I really don't blame the media as much as some I think. Intelligent, concerned citizens could have seen the whitewash that was being given us by the white house in 2002 and 2003. I did. It is my opinion that his country as a whole was hellbent for going to war. What's amazing now to me now is how the greatest country in the world is still unable to find Obama Bin Laden and the press still doesn't seem to be pressuring the White House to really do something about it. But it wouldn't surprise me at all to see something actually accomplished in that regard prior to the upcoming election just to make republicans and conservatives look good. p.s. the interview with Phil Donahue was the most unnerving. What his bosses were telling him and what happened in the end is just so wrong and unpatriotic. I am so glad I do have or watch cable television.

Posted by: Dave | April 26, 2007 12:30 AM

I would like to congratulate the two of you for your excellent job of reporting. Your seeking of the truth is inspiring. I would like to know if you think that impact of the large communications firms are harming the reporting by reducing the number or reporters to increase their profits, and is the reduction in the number of reporters having an impact on the bias and reporting of the truth and facts? Thank you, Richard Hickey Vietnam Veteran

Posted by: Richard Hickey | April 26, 2007 12:30 AM

I'm not very proficient on the Internet..I'm just a 66 year old grandmother. But even I could go on the web and find many of the things you two fine journalist found and reported on tonight. I never understood why, when the majority of the 'terrorist' of 9/11 were from Saudi Arabia we weren't attacking them, rather than Iraq. Having read many books on Saddam, I couldn't understand how anyone could think he would allow a group like Al Qaeda into his country-the descent they would have raised among the Iraqi's would not have been tolerated by any dictator. I didn't like the way the USA had 'made' Saddam in the first place was being brushed under the carpet. That's when I began to really distrust not only the administration, but the press in general. I began going to journalist outside the USA for more information, trying to make sense of it all. We have a McClatchy/Knight Rider newspaper in Kansas City, but none of your columns appeared, that I can recall, and I read it pretty thoroughly every day. The editors here had all about all the other columnist from the Post, Times etc.....especially the ones that wouldn't appear...

Posted by: Anne Sherwood | April 26, 2007 12:30 AM

Excellent program. I will use Knight Ridder for truth in news from now on. I have a son who flies medical evacuation helicopters in Afghanistan. Is'nt Afghanistan a legitimate place for troops now? We support the troops, and feel there are better ways than war for solution to the worlds problems. I wish I had heard of you sooner. Blessings to you and your efforts for truthful information.Janie B.

Posted by: Janie B | April 26, 2007 12:30 AM

One point I didn't hear mentioned in tonight's program is something I learned from Amy Goodman, co-host of the daily "Democracy Now!" show (democracynow.org) about television coverage of the issues prior to the U.S. invasion of Iraq, which I think is based on a study done by FAIR (Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting (fair.org) regarding the people chosen for broadcast interviews and debates. I don't recall the actual numbers, but despite the fact that there was substantial opposition to the invasion plans then underway, as evidenced by the massive demonstrations in New York City and elsewhere in March, 2003, extremely few persons representing that view were featured by programs shown on the three major broadcast networks, the cable networks and the PBS News Hour with Jim Lehrer. I would be interested to know what, if any, discussions might have taken place behind the scenes as to whether and how such voices should have been featured, or whether such an idea was considered to be completely "out of the question."

Posted by: Gary Trujillo, Somerville, MA | April 26, 2007 12:30 AM

thank you for honesty and integrity. have done some research, and belive that iraq was invaded to drive up oil prices. the companies that have donated millions of dollars to the republican party are available at open secrets.org. they include bp petrolium, hallibutron,exxon mobil and yes ENRON in 2000. SEIG, strategic Energy Investment Group. the oil companies include exxon mobil,bp, statoil, petrolium geo-services. govt offices they consult with are the us state dept. the us defeense dept. halliburton should ring a bell, dick cheney. and the lobby firm of vison & elkin, who coincidently had as an employee, the attorney general alberto gonzalos. does anyone not see what is happening here. this is a huge conspirecy to rip off the common people. vison & elkins is used by halliburton. halliburton wants to move it's operations from iraq to dubai. guess what vison & elkins have an office in dubai. also has an office in london, 2 words British Petrolium. and yes enron even used vison & elkins. some of my sources are, opensecrets.org halliburtonwatch.org gwbush the darkside alertnet.org some articles of interest cfr.org/publication.html?id=5425 perspective heading for war. www.alertnet.org/story/12155 bush enron ties. www.alertnet.org/story/51043/ kunicih files article for impeachment against dick cheney...

Posted by: jody emmons | April 26, 2007 12:29 AM

Is there any professional association for journalists that has standards that they enforce, perhaps if asked? Could a journalist be expelled from it in the case of a total failure to do his or her job? There are a few candidates in the piece.... Another angle, could a journalist be sued for malpractice, as a doctor might be? Could it be a class action suit, e.g. American Public vs Terry Bull Hack? Harm to the Nation? Harm to my dead son or daughter? Harm to the schools' budgets, etc? The server is not responding. There must be a lot of people trying to post. Sorry for joining late. You guys did a great job. This program is one more step solving the problem. -- md

Posted by: md | April 26, 2007 12:29 AM

thank you for honesty and integrity. have done some research, and belive that iraq was invaded to drive up oil prices. the companies that have donated millions of dollars to the republican party are available at open secrets.org. they include bp petrolium, hallibutron,exxon mobil and yes ENRON in 2000. SEIG, strategic Energy Investment Group. the oil companies include exxon mobil,bp, statoil, petrolium geo-services. govt offices they consult with are the us state dept. the us defeense dept. halliburton should ring a bell, dick cheney. and the lobby firm of vison & elkin, who coincidently had as an employee, the attorney general alberto gonzalos. does anyone not see what is happening here. this is a huge conspirecy to rip off the common people. vison & elkins is used by halliburton. halliburton wants to move it's operations from iraq to dubai. guess what vison & elkins have an office in dubai. also has an office in london, 2 words British Petrolium. and yes enron even used vison & elkins. some of my sources are, opensecrets.org halliburtonwatch.org gwbush the darkside alertnet.org some articles of interest cfr.org/publication.html?id=5425 perspective heading for war. www.alertnet.org/story/12155 bush enron ties. www.alertnet.org/story/51043/ kunicih files article for impeachment against dick cheney...

Posted by: jody emmons | April 26, 2007 12:28 AM

William Krystol was asked to be in an interview and declined? Small wonder. Take a look at the role of the Project for the New American Century (PNAC), which includes William Krystol, George Bush, Karl Rove, Richard Perle, Scooter Libby, Donald Rumsfeld, and Richard Armitage as members. PNAC sent a letter to Bill Clinton urging him to attack Iraq. Most of the people who caused the U.S. to get preemptive attack are members of the PNAC. Krystol is not unbiased; he has been actively involved. The role of this group and other right wing conservative "think tanks" should be investigated, IMHO. Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PNAC

Posted by: Bill | April 26, 2007 12:28 AM

I really don't blame the media as much as some I think. Intelligent, concerned citizens could have seen the whitewash that was being given us by the white house in 2002 and 2003. I did. It is my opinion that his country as a whole was hellbent for going to war. What's amazing now to me now is how the greatest country in the world is still unable to find Obama Bin Laden and the press still doesn't seem to be pressuring the White House to really do something about it. But it wouldn't surprise me at all to see something actually accomplished in that regard prior to the upcoming election just to make republicans and conservatives look good. p.s. the interview with Phil Donahue was the most unnerving. What his bosses were telling him and what happened in the end is just so wrong and unpatriotic. I am so glad I do have or watch cable television.

Posted by: Dave | April 26, 2007 12:27 AM

Is there any professional association for journalists that has standards that they enforce, perhaps if asked? Could a journalist be expelled from it in the case of a total failure to do his or her job? There are a few candidates in the piece.... Another angle, could a journalist be sued for malpractice, as a doctor might be? Could it be a class action suit, e.g. American Public vs Terry Bull Hack? Harm to the Nation? Harm to my dead son or daughter? Harm to the schools' budgets, etc? The server is not responding. There must be a lot of people trying to post. Sorry for joining late. You guys did a great job. This program is one more step solving the problem. -- md

Posted by: md | April 26, 2007 12:27 AM

In the scientific community anyone who is found to have 'cooked the data' in order to obtain a desired result is drummed out of the field, lose their job and any credibility they may have had. They will never get research grants, professorships, lab positions again. Does anything happen to reporters who are consistently wrong about a story because of shoddy journalism, complacency or a lack of integrity. Is there anyplace that their "mistakes" can be tallied, sort of a "Consumer's Reports" of journalists and newspapers/magazines.

Posted by: Esther Kaplan | April 26, 2007 12:27 AM

Thomas Jefferson offered, "The tree of democracy need be watered from time to time with the blood of patriots and the blood of tyrants". You guys qualify for the patriot role and GWB plays well the other part. Americans should truly appreciate your passion for the truth. May you never get so comfortable or so famous that you lose it. Skip Little Rock

Posted by: Skip | April 26, 2007 12:27 AM

Yellow journalism takes on a new significance when we learn of how major news sources in this country succumbed so cravenly to the Bush administration's deceitful case for going to war with Iraq. The question now is: do you think that that this once noble profession can survive as an objective defender democracy in an age when corporate and political are joined at the hip at the expense of our enduring national interests and constitutional right to know the truth? Mke Martinez - Dallas

Posted by: Mke Martinez | April 26, 2007 12:27 AM

I'm thankful that PBS aired this program. I'm doubtful that anyone was listening. Oh some may have been watching, but I doubt that they are seeing, listening, hearing and/or comprehending. The spin machine whirrs on unabated and the press keeps right on publishing/broadcasting/cable-casting/pod-casting their lies. Your list of those (especially pundits/journalists/editorialists) who would not appear on your program is especially telling and troubling. Those self deluded egotistical asses or fools or whatever the hell they are, that helped lead our country down this road to ruin, this road to a totally illegal "preemptive" war, should have the courage, or should I say, should have the moral character and human decency to step forward, apologize and get on with the task of doing everything they can to help to end this disasterous war and this out of control regime. The men and women, the “leaders” who chose and continue to choose to "mislead," (wait, that’s far too nice a word), those that have intentionally lied to us, the American people and the world, are criminals and should be tried as such. Those people have committed and are committing crimes against humanity and they should be handed over to the World Court...

Posted by: Royal scanlon | April 26, 2007 12:26 AM

Thank you for tonight's program. Unfortunately, it is more than a little late. Is America ready to find out that 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB?? Some of us KNOW a controlled demolition when we see one. On 911 we saw THREE. And, yes, there is lots of evidence. Do you reporters have the guts to do some REAL journalism?? Peace be upon the earth and among all beings.

Posted by: Roy Smith | April 26, 2007 12:26 AM

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Posted by: Szabo | April 26, 2007 12:26 AM

Thanks for a very informative and interesting program. I was struck by the similarity between the press buying off on the Iraq war hype put out by this administration and them not pursuing the Watergate story. If it had not been for Katherine Graham, Ben Bradley and "Woodstein," the public would never have known. And here we have the reporters for Knight-Kidder. So much of the hype was reported as fact by the Washington press....where was Bob Woodward on this. Now that he has Ben Bradley's old job, he's in a position to have gotten the truth out, and he's earned enough respect to have been taken seriously.

Posted by: Irene Weir | April 26, 2007 12:26 AM

Mr. Landay and Mr. Strobel, thanks for digging for the truth behind the headlines. Unfortunately, not many people actually read beyond the headlines--including congressman--or they would have been skeptical of the war from the start. I have two questions for you. Did you have any sources within the US government to help inform your reporting in the lead up to the war? What sources did foreign intelligence agencies use in forming their apparently concensus opinion about Iraq's alleged WMD?

Posted by: Brad Smith | April 26, 2007 12:25 AM

My family is one which has had the misfortune of losing a son and brother to the war in Iraq. I knew when the Bush Administration was calling for invasion in Iraq that the probability of WMD's didn't exist. If indeed Saddam had them he would have pointed them anywhere he could. However, I was moved when Collin Powell gave his speech at the United Nations. I had so much respect for the man. But now I know he and others were puppets of some wierd plot to go to war to make millions for the contractors who have been flourishing in Iraq. I now know why there were few questions and research into the war mongering statements coming out of the Whitehouse. I now ask the same question Lee Iacoca asks in his new book. "Where are the new Leaders?" WEll we know where a couple of you have been. And now with Bill Moyers new program. I thank you for your work and bravery. thank you!

Posted by: pam lindsay | April 26, 2007 12:25 AM

How does the media remain objective and impartial from one administration to another, especially when the elections were so divisive? That has been the most bewildering aspect of the Geo W. administration (the impartiality vanished). Are there any safeguards for the media?

Posted by: wyckoffbr | April 26, 2007 12:24 AM

I have never felt so helpless, angry, and frustrated and for years. When Congress was debating whether to go to war, I wrote to Mrs. Bush, Rumsfield, Wolfowitz, my representatives BEGGING them not to go to war because we didn't have enough evidence, that Sadam was being contained with flyovers and sanctions, and worse, that this action would make everything worse in the world, create more danger for all of us, and cause us to be even more hated in the Middle East. No one listens to us. This is NOT a democracy. What on EARTH could we Americans have done to stop Bush and his crew? And to Bill: SO GLAD YOU ARE BACK!

Posted by: Barbara Hunt, Dallas, Texas | April 26, 2007 12:24 AM

Thank you Mssrs Landay & Strobel and thank God Bill is back on the air. I have wondered for many years now how it is that the various media moguls can legitimize criminals like Limbaugh, G. Gordon Liddy, Linda Chavez, not to mention the likes of O'Lielly and Hannity and, IMHO the most despicable, George Will. There was reference to this phenomenon in your broadcast---the concurrent visual was of William Cristol, who, it turns out, was again being legitimized this very evening on All Things Considered as a "political analyst." So much for the oft-claimed "left-wing bias" of PBS. Any thoughts on this, gentlemen??

Posted by: Robin Nicholoff | April 26, 2007 12:24 AM

Thank you for tonight's program. Unfortunately, it is more than a little late. Is America ready to find out that 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB?? Some of us KNOW a controlled demolition when we see one. On 911 we saw THREE. And, yes, there is lots of evidence. Do you reporters have the guts to do some REAL journalism?? Peace be upon the earth and among all beings.

Posted by: Roy Smith | April 26, 2007 12:24 AM

This was a great program, one of the most incisive programs I have eer seen. I am so shaken by this because I have for some time come to the conclusion that too many members of the media are too close to the beltway to d otheir jobs properly. I am extremely disappointed in a guy like Tim Russert, who the administration has admitted they have used as amouthpiece for their views and Mr. Russert just goes along with it. We criticize countries like Russia and China for the lack of a free press, but it seems that our press isn't much better, sadly.

Posted by: Sam J, | April 26, 2007 12:24 AM

How can we instill courage and integrity into the media again? You noted that the media could barely muster the courage to cover the anti-war protests. I note that they have not improved in the intervening years. Dennis Kucinich’s introducing a bill of impeachment is a significant, patriotic, and courageous act, and The New York Times could barely muster the courage to give it a paragraph of coverage buried way back in the paper two days ago, and NBC couldn’t muster the courage to put it in Bryan Williams’ prime-time news but rather buried it in a 10-second sound byte in the Scarborough show. How can we get the Times to become an honorable newspaper again? Of late, they have been cowardly, negligent, and corrupt.

Posted by: ralph | April 26, 2007 12:24 AM

Certainly a 'worth watching' documentary, but mostly old news for those who visit DemocracyNow.org on a daily basis. So where's Strobel and Landay? I was under the impression that we would all be in a chat room with a moderator... IMPEACH 'EM ALL!

Posted by: Jamie Parks | April 26, 2007 12:24 AM

So, did anyone watch American Idol tonight?

Posted by: Bill Alexy | April 26, 2007 12:24 AM

Good Evening, I am currently a student, attending a community college in my home town of Alvin, Texas. I have been attending college, utilizing the Montgomery G.I. Bill, since my discharge from the United States Marine Corps. I did two tours in Iraq, one voluntarily. Politically, I tend to be conservative, but I am very open minded. Have said all this, I would like to present my onion on Iraq. Iraq seems now to be a blunder that the American people have been blindly lead into, reminiscent of Vietnam. However, on the side of not being popular, I will point out that since 9-11, there have been no terrorist attacks. I volunteered to to serve, and if asked by my country to do so again, I would, with out question. Not for ideology, or duty, or what ever else President Kennedy spoke of when he said his famous words, "it is not what your country can do for you. It is what you can do for your country." I do it because as long as we keep the fight the terrorist insist on having on distant shores, it keeps it away from my family. Yes, I agree that the administration...

Posted by: Rick | April 26, 2007 12:23 AM

Thank you Mssrs Landay & Strobel and thank God Bill is back on the air. I have wondered for many years now how it is that the various media moguls can legitimize criminals like Limbaugh, G. Gordon Liddy, Linda Chavez, not to mention the likes of O'Lielly and Hannity and, IMHO the most despicable, George Will. There was reference to this phenomenon in your broadcast---the concurrent visual was of William Cristol, who, it turns out, was again being legitimized this very evening on All Things Considered as a "political analyst." So much for the oft-claimed "left-wing bias" of PBS. Any thoughts on this, gentlemen??

Posted by: Robin Nicholoff | April 26, 2007 12:22 AM

Gentlemen - I applaud you for your intrepid work. My question: because much of the mainstream press, as evidenced in the run-up to Iraq and in many, many other instances, is "in bed" with the Washington establishment, that is, it presents administration propoganda as factual "news" and is afraid to ask tough questions, do you think for this reason that the traditional characterization of the mainstream press as the independent voice of truth, fairness and balance in American society, has been irreparably damaged?

Posted by: Paulo Cunha | April 26, 2007 12:22 AM

I cannot express my gratitude and admiration for what you've done. Even with the miasma of 9/11, it is difficult to understand how so many mature, experienced, reasonably intelligent people found these pretenders credible.

Posted by: Gerald Ganann | April 26, 2007 12:22 AM

Hi, Thank you for your courage! You have reminded me of the egg on my face. I bought into the Al-Qaeda/Iraq connection, especially after Powell gave the UN speech. Although I thought the war would be a disaster, given the artificial boarder of Iraq drawn up by colonial powers and the opposing religious factions, I did little to oppose it. Your story tonight showed the truth that has been hard to gleam from the fog that has been blown into the past. I was hard hit by Rather's explanation, it will be hard to watch anything on CBS. Ever. Now we know that Rove is a kind of back room Goebbels and that Bush's handlers have got to be stopped at all costs. They have turned the US into their own little fascist empire with the help of Bill O'Reilly and other hacks. I didn't realize until tonight that I lived in a Nazi state. Thank you and your people for all of your hard work. I hope that you all aren't fired by now. cheers, steve ps. I will definitely be going to the Knight-Ridder web site for news, since I like to get an independent news source, FYI...

Posted by: steve archambault | April 26, 2007 12:22 AM

Thank you for tonight's program. Unfortunately, it is more than a little late. Is America ready to find out that 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB?? Some of us KNOW a controlled demolition when we see one. On 911 we saw THREE. And, yes, there is lots of evidence. Do you reporters have the guts to do some REAL journalism?? Peace be upon the earth and among all beings.

Posted by: Roy Smith | April 26, 2007 12:22 AM

I have never felt so helpless, angry, and frustrated and for years. When Congress was debating whether to go to war, I wrote to Mrs. Bush, Rumsfield, Wolfowitz, my representatives BEGGING them not to go to war because we didn't have enough evidence, that Sadam was being contained with flyovers and sanctions, and worse, that this action would make everything worse in the world, create more danger for all of us, and cause us to be even more hated in the Middle East. No one listens to us. This is NOT a democracy. What on EARTH could we Americans have done to stop Bush and his crew? And to Bill: SO GLAD YOU ARE BACK!

Posted by: Barbara Hunt, Dallas, Texas | April 26, 2007 12:22 AM

Its tragic really. The corporate media is more interested in the bottom line and less interested in good journalism. How can a democracy function, if the balanced information required by the electorate is absent? Historically, its been the duty of the media to provide this role but the American media coverage of Iraq has been pack journalism at its worst. Ultimately, those Americans who were duped by the lies and propaganda of the Bush/Cheney administration must re-examine their naive understanding of the world and examine events with a critical eye. Did you ever wonder why the governments of Germany, France and Canada refused to support the illegal invasion of Iraq? Did you ever wonder why popular opinion in those country's overwhelmingly supported their government's decision to avoid the coalition of the willing? If you want to know the real reason for the invasion of Iraq -- read Linda McQuaig's "Its the Crude, Dude".

Posted by: Dave Nonen | April 26, 2007 12:21 AM

My family is one which has had the misfortune of losing a son and brother to the war in Iraq. I knew when the Bush Administration was calling for invasion in Iraq that the probability of WMD's didn't exist. If indeed Saddam had them he would have pointed them anywhere he could. However, I was moved when Collin Powell gave his speech at the United Nations. I had so much respect for the man. But now I know he and others were puppets of some wierd plot to go to war to make millions for the contractors who have been flourishing in Iraq. I now know why there were few questions and research into the war mongering statements coming out of the Whitehouse. I now ask the same question Lee Iacoca asks in his new book. "Where are the new Leaders?" WEll we know where a couple of you have been. And now with Bill Moyers new program. I thank you for your work and bravery. thank you!

Posted by: pam lindsay | April 26, 2007 12:21 AM

In the same light...Why is no one talking about the current request to change laws so that the government can enter the homes of U.S. citizens to copy the hard drive of their computers without their knowledge or privacy protections?

Posted by: Tia | April 26, 2007 12:21 AM

Thank you for providing a program that was intelligent, brave, and worth watching. Among many confirmations that the media is surprisingly comfortable in a supine posture was a reference to the version of "objectivity" that seems to prevail on NPR and other purportedly balanced news outlets. Can you explain why reporters are satisfied that they have provided some information about the world as long as any wild claim is paired by an equally unexamined counter-claim? Is this approach taught at journalism schools or is it something insisted on by management? Why isn't there a demand for reporters who actually try to find out the facts? Is it accepted among many journalists that their job is to provide a few, approved spokespeople with a microphone rather than to try to find and report the truth as you tried to do.

Posted by: Kathy | April 26, 2007 12:21 AM

Jonathan Landay and Warren Strobel have shown more courage and truthfulness in their research than Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein did in the 1970s. I have begun to breathe a little deeper tonight after viewing Bill Moyer's Journal. These last 6 years have been so crazy and layered with lies & deception. I have felt that we, as a nation, had lost our capacity to root out the evils of neo-conservatism shored up by a complicit corporate media. We all know now to skeptically read the NY Times, Washington Post and the Wallstreet Journal. If we speak up, the Bush-Media cabal may be stopped in further launching their traitorous long range "Plan for America." The big mass media conglomerates are clearly linked to selling trusting Americans the Iraq War and the conservative dogma - it was, as I feared, a corporate, facist spin machine – hell bent on flinging hate and fear upon every American. Now we know of this tragic plague of deception – conceived in the White House and directly linked to our airwaves & newspapers. Beginning tonight, let's have the media compete for our redemption. Vote by viewing only sources that are credible & proven - and...

Posted by: Jim O'Connell | April 26, 2007 12:21 AM

I must admit that, as just an ordinary citizen (though perhaps a particularly well read one), it took me a long time to figure out how come the public bought the Bush administration's "case" for war in the first place. It was obvious to anyone who knew history that Hussein was not going to be aligned with Al Qaeda and that his weakened, impoverished country posed no threat to us. Why did journalists who were IN THE BUSINESS not think things through? Are they so addicted to "he said/she said" reporting that they can inject NO analysis or common sense into what they present to the public? Why did Dan Rather not examine the forged National Guard documents which he touted (and which doomed his career) critically, so as not to permanently compromise his credibility with the public? And if the Knight Ridder journalists were really so dedicated, why did we not see more of a fuss from them and their publications? Something has been terribly wrong all along, and while it's good that this special documents it after the fact I cannot let these "journalists" off the hook for not doing more at the time.

Posted by: Citizen | April 26, 2007 12:20 AM

Its tragic really. The corporate media is more interested in the bottom line and less interested in good journalism. How can a democracy function, if the balanced information required by the electorate is absent? Historically, its been the duty of the media to provide this role but the American media coverage of Iraq has been pack journalism at its worst. Ultimately, those Americans who were duped by the lies and propaganda of the Bush/Cheney administration must re-examine their naive understanding of the world and examine events with a critical eye. Did you ever wonder why the governments of Germany, France and Canada refused to support the illegal invasion of Iraq? Did you ever wonder why popular opinion in those country's overwhelminly supported their government's decision to avoid the coalition of the willing? If you want to know the real reason for the invasion of Iraq -- read Linda McQuaig's "Its the Crude, Dude".

Posted by: Dave Nonen | April 26, 2007 12:20 AM

What, in your opinion, is the reason the Bush administration chose to go to war with Iraq? Was it a naive attempt to remake the Middle East? Thank you for your efforts.

Posted by: Dr. Frank Gasior | April 26, 2007 12:20 AM

Thanks for having a mind of your own.

Posted by: Norm Doebel | April 26, 2007 12:19 AM

Gentlemen - I applaud you for your intrepid work. My question: because much of the mainstream press, as evidenced in the run-up to Iraq and in many, many other instances, is "in bed" with the Washington establishment, that is, it presents administration propoganda as factual "news" and is afraid to ask tough questions, do you think for this reason that the traditional characterization of the mainstream press as the independent voice of truth, fairness and balance in American society, has been irreparably damaged?

Posted by: Paulo Cunha | April 26, 2007 12:19 AM

The pivotal role played by the Colin Powell UN speech in convincing any remaining skeptics was rightly given attention. That certainly was the tipping point in overcoming my skepticism. I missed part of the documentary, but what I watched did not include any references to Frank Rich, who has done a terrific job, more than anyone else at the Times in "connecting the dots". Did you try to interview him? Thanks for a fabulous effort.

Posted by: Charlie Kireker | April 26, 2007 12:19 AM

Hi, Thank you for your courage! You have reminded me of the egg on my face. I bought into the Al-Qaeda/Iraq connection, especially after Powell gave the UN speech. Although I thought the war would be a disaster, given the artificial boarder of Iraq drawn up by colonial powers and the opposing religious factions, I did little to oppose it. Your story tonight showed the truth that has been hard to gleam from the fog that has been blown into the past. I was hard hit by Rather's explanation, it will be hard to watch anything on CBS. Ever. Now we know that Rove is a kind of back room Goebbels and that Bush's handlers have got to be stopped at all costs. They have turned the US into their own little fascist empire with the help of Bill O'Reilly and other hacks. I didn't realize until tonight that I lived in a Nazi state. Thank you and your people for all of your hard work. I hope that you all aren't fired by now. cheers, steve ps. I will definitely be going to the Knight-Ridder web site for news, since I like to get an independent news source, FYI...

Posted by: steve archambault | April 26, 2007 12:19 AM

I took Powell's bait, hook line and sinker. I've been mad as hades ever since. My question: 9/11 saw mostly Saudi Nationalist involved. Bin Laden took credit as well. The Saudi link has NEVER been investigated....WHY??? Finally, why haven't the Downing Street minutes of 2002, the "smoking gun" revealing "the fixing of facts" for war never been fully covered by you or anyone else in the US media??? Those minutes alone prove the lies and deception of this war. Thanks for your work- Rev. Bradford N. Bray, Ret Capt USAF-ANG of this bs war.

Posted by: Bradford Nelson Bray | April 26, 2007 12:19 AM

Our democracy if flawed; our media is infiltrated by opinions and egocentrics who want to exploit there jobs to be “players.” I find it absurd and stangely fascinating, however, how an alternate reality can arise and flourish. And I've decided "patriotism" is generally a bad thing--I've never been a patriot myself. I don't think it's right to pretend you or you're country is in a morally superior position. We pretend propaganda doesn't exist in America anymore, but after watching the program, I’m surprised FOX news didn't disperse something similar to the old “social realist” propaganda posters, with caricatures of Arab men with one hand on a detonator and the other reaching for our women and children. I think one should be wary and skeptical whenever fear seems to be the essence of a persuasive argument. I guess short doses of pathos driven news sells more than logos. It's a price we pay for capitalism, but it's worth it, it has to be--and it's too late to freak myself out with ideas of the superstructure and whether humanity is enslaved to the insatiable logic of its economies. Thanks for not being lazy, and not going with flow. P.S. I once read...

Posted by: Neil | April 26, 2007 12:19 AM

I really don't blame the media as much as some I think. Intelligent, concerned citizens could have seen the whitewash that was being given us by the white house in 2002 and 2003. I did. It is my opinion that his country as a whole was hellbent for going to war. What's amazing now to me now is how the greatest country in the world is still unable to find Obama Bin Laden and the press still doesn't seem to be pressuring the White House to really do something about it. But it wouldn't surprise me at all to see something actually accomplished in that regard prior to the upcoming election just to make republicans and conservatives look good. p.s. the interview with Phil Donahue was the most unnerving. What his bosses were telling him and what happened in the end is just so wrong and unpatriotic. I am so glad I do have or watch cable television.

Posted by: Dave | April 26, 2007 12:19 AM

Gentlemen, I first want to applaud your efforts and steadfast resolution in not falling into line like most mainstream news affiliations. My question for you is this - in a time where we as a nation are beginning to reflect more with our minds than emotion, is there hope for the media to re-establish itself was a force for holding politicians culpable for their indiscretions and lack of foresight, or will the political machinist media continue to run rampant feeding the minds of ill-informed citizens who have bought into their rhetoric from the start? Thank you again for staying true to what every journalist should hold sacred - their skepticism. Jim

Posted by: James | April 26, 2007 12:18 AM

Okay - The question is "What Now?" How can the damage be reversed - in this country, let alone the rest of the world and Iraq. Great broadcast although this was obvious to some of us from the beginning. It's about time.

Posted by: Jean Sheffer | April 26, 2007 12:18 AM

Dear Knight Ridder reporters and Bill Moyers: I can't thank you enough for standing up in the face of those hurricane winds--for doing your job as reporters. Thank you, thank you.

Posted by: LeeAnn Cox | April 26, 2007 12:18 AM

As a retired journalist, I would like to commend you for doing what we were trained to do at the Missouri School of Journalism back in the days before instant news. Dig and keep asking "why?". The selling of the war is reminiscent of Hearstian hype during the Spanish American war. Today, however, TV makes the spin job easier. No time for reporting. Just go with the handouts. Now, they're beating the drums for Iran. And we continue to build bases around the world -- a fact that is not often reported. The return of the Moyers show -- and the fact that seasoned reporters are still out there is reason for hope. Keep on keeping on.

Posted by: Patricia Jones | April 26, 2007 12:18 AM

How does the media remain objective and impartial from one administration to another, especially when the elections were so divisive? That has been the most bewildering aspect of the Geo W. administration (the impartiality vanished). Are there any safeguards for the media?

Posted by: wyckoffbr | April 26, 2007 12:18 AM

One point I didn't hear mentioned in tonight's program is something I learned from Amy Goodman, co-host of the daily "Democracy Now!" show (democracynow.org) about television coverage of the issues prior to the U.S. invasion of Iraq, which I think is based on a study done by FAIR (Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting (fair.org) regarding the people chosen for broadcast interviews and debates. I don't recall the actual numbers, but despite the fact that there was substantial opposition to the invasion plans then underway, as evidenced by the massive demonstrations in New York City and elsewhere in March, 2003, extremely few persons representing that view were featured by programs shown on the three major broadcast networks, the cable networks and the PBS News Hour with Jim Lehrer. I would be interested to know what, if any, discussions might have taken place behind the scenes as to whether and how such voices should have been featured, or whether such an idea was considered to be completely "out of the question."

Posted by: Gary Trujillo, Somerville, MA | April 26, 2007 12:17 AM

Hi, Thank you for your courage! You have reminded me of the egg on my face. I bought into the Al-Qaeda/Iraq connection, especially after Powell gave the UN speech. Although I thought the war would be a disaster, given the artificial boarder of Iraq drawn up by colonial powers and the opposing religious factions, I did little to oppose it. Your story tonight showed the truth that has been hard to gleam from the fog that has been blown into the past. I was hard hit by Rather's explanation, it will be hard to watch anything on CBS. Ever. Now we know that Rove is a kind of back room Goebbels and that Bush's handlers have got to be stopped at all costs. They have turned the US into their own little fascist empire with the help of Bill O'Reilly and other hacks. I didn't realize until tonight that I lived in a Nazi state. Thank you and your people for all of your hard work. I hope that you all aren't fired by now. cheers, steve ps. I will definitely be going to the Knight-Ridder web site for news, since I like to get an independent news source, FYI...

Posted by: steve archambault | April 26, 2007 12:17 AM

Jonathan Landay and Warren Strobel have shown more courage and truthfulness in their research than Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein did in the 1970s. I have begun to breathe a little deeper tonight after viewing Bill Moyer's Journal. These last 6 years have been so crazy and layered with lies & deception. I have felt that we, as a nation, had lost our capacity to root out the evils of neo-conservatism shored up by a complicit corporate media. We all know now to skeptically read the NY Times, Washington Post and the Wallstreet Journal. If we speak up, the Bush-Media cabal may be stopped in further launching their traitorous long range "Plan for America." The big mass media conglomerates are clearly linked to selling trusting Americans the Iraq War and the conservative dogma - it was, as I feared, a corporate, facist spin machine – hell bent on flinging hate and fear upon every American. Now we know of this tragic plague of deception – conceived in the White House and directly linked to our airwaves & newspapers. Beginning tonight, let's have the media compete for our redemption. Vote by viewing only sources that are credible & proven - and...

Posted by: Jim O'Connell | April 26, 2007 12:17 AM

An amazing indictment on our press and their failures on the hype that lead us into the invasion in Iraq. I never believed the hype, and anyone who is well-read didn't either. It's, frankly, one of the biggest problems I have with Hillary Clinton: she should have known better, but was either too politically fearful/unprincipled or too uninformed to do the right thing. Not long before Molly Ivins died, she encouraged her readers to encourage Bill Moyers to run for President. I wrote him a letter, encouraging him to run. I doubt he will, but I sure wish he would. Great broadcast, Mr. Moyers. Long overdue. So are the impeachment proceedings.

Posted by: Don in Dallas | April 26, 2007 12:16 AM

Hats off to truth in journalism. How refreshing!! Love you Bill Moyers!!! Wow...what a exposure with stark nakedness how the general public can be manipulated into believing almost anything. Isn't this how it has always been done throughout history? The madness of a few who use thousands of others to carry out their selfish agenda. People still have the "herd" consciousness where they are robbed of their rights through tools and psychological techniques from the "control group" whoever that might be. Unless peop-le stop being sheep who can be led and start thinking and questioning they will always attract leaders who will be only too glad to lead them down the "garden path". I dread to think of what evil lies hide behind the rest of the iceburg that these honest reporters have begun to break apart.

Posted by: Jane | April 26, 2007 12:16 AM

Okay - The question is "What Now?" How can the damage be reversed - in this country, let alone the rest of the world and Iraq. Great broadcast although this was obvious to some of us from the beginning. It's about time.

Posted by: Jean Sheffer | April 26, 2007 12:16 AM

The show was frightening. Those who were not fooled were marginalized. Those who could not be pushed to the margins were fired. In the last ten seconds of the show when I heard that those who carried the administration's water are working at what I assume are good jobs and continue to be "darlings" in the talk show and lecture circuits. I was appalled. They and their bosses are in denial of what they wrought, which suggests to me that they were complicit in the lies and deception all along. Why else would they refuse to condemn those who promulgated those lies? If we cannot learn from the current debacle, it will certainly happen again. Dennis Kucinich has introduced “House Resolution 333 to impeach V.P. Cheney. Support him in this fight. This man shows courage that is lacking elseware in Congress. Show your support for him by calling your congressional representative and asking they co-sponsor his resolution. Click for a video clip of his press conference.

Posted by: Philip Lange | April 26, 2007 12:16 AM

Thank you to Bill Moyers, both of you, and AP. I so hope our world remembers the importance of journalism over corporate profits for those who one most major media outlets before even more horrific disasters go unchallenged.

Posted by: Mary Anne Maier | April 26, 2007 12:16 AM

An amazing indictment on our press and their failures on the hype that lead us into the invasion in Iraq. I never believed the hype, and anyone who is well-read didn't either. It's, frankly, one of the biggest problems I have with Hillary Clinton: she should have known better, but was either too politically fearful/unprincipled or too uninformed to do the right thing. Not long before Molly Ivins died, she encouraged her readers to encourage Bill Moyers to run for President. I wrote him a letter, encouraging him to run. I doubt he will, but I sure wish he would. Great broadcast, Mr. Moyers. Long overdue. So are the impeachment proceedings.

Posted by: Don in Dallas | April 26, 2007 12:16 AM

Here's the question: HOW do we PROTEST effectively in this day and age? In CHicago, there were HUGE protests--barely covered, not on the net...clearly useless. Many people said they didn't believe what they heard, KNEW the media was being conned (and the $$ and power behind that)--with NO way to protest effectively. Any suggestions?

Posted by: Robin | April 26, 2007 12:16 AM

The program ended 90 minutes ago on the East Coast. I have been following this thread ever since. I have yet to see one response from the reporters who are supposed to by replying here. Neither have I seen any of the three questions I posted in the past hour. I ask once again: Are we all in the wrong place for the conversation, or is this site simply overwhelmed?

Posted by: mrsmarks | April 26, 2007 12:15 AM

Okay - The question is "What Now?" How can the damage be reversed - in this country, let alone the rest of the world and Iraq. Great broadcast although this was obvious to some of us from the beginning. It's about time.

Posted by: Jean Sheffer | April 26, 2007 12:14 AM

Thank you for tonight's program. Unfortunately, it is more than a little late. Is America ready to find out that 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB?? Some of us KNOW a controlled demolition when we see one. On 911 we saw THREE. And, yes, there is lots of evidence. Do you reporters have the guts to do some REAL journalism?? Peace be upon the earth and among all beings.

Posted by: Roy Smith | April 26, 2007 12:14 AM

Great job on the middle of the story. The real questions surround the beginning and what could be the end: 1. What REALLY happened on 9/11/2001, and who really did it? 2. Where are those people, and what are they going to do next? 3. If it took the WTC disaster to get into Iraq, what will it take to take Iran?

Posted by: mh | April 26, 2007 12:14 AM

Excellent. Now how about a program investigating the source of all the misinformation and propaganda - Douglas Feith and his Office of Special Plans. And ultimately, the neocon agenda behind this.

Posted by: Harold Mills | April 26, 2007 12:14 AM

Great Reporting!!! Next Question ... Why? Why did we go to war?

Posted by: Fred Haas | April 26, 2007 12:14 AM

4/25/2007 Dear Bill and the old Knight-Ridder team and Phil Donahue, What now? We the audience and citizens of this country are part of this problem. We tend to get lazy for the evening news hour by always wanting to focus on what I call ” comfort food news". Many in the general population have little or no conception of what critical news is or a desire for listening to the other side of a debate. Fortunately, the Internet, blogs, progressive radio and PBS, NPR are places where alternative points of view are available. I never did buy the Cheney Bush line for justifying the Iraq war. I did not hear many voices that concurred with my viewpoint. This has been well documented in your excellent news documentary tonight. I am going to sign up with McClatchy for their online news. I have been online with the NY TIMES, WASH POST AND THE DALLAS PAPERS. These news organizations I now realize are next to worthless for reliable and accurate news content. I will still read them but now I will go to the library to get these papers. Again, thanks for a great program. We need to look to...

Posted by: B Wilson | April 26, 2007 12:14 AM

Fantastic reporting and long overdue. In spite of the missing Curve Ball and Niger stories, it is obvious, that this administration has conned us for many years now. And the Pentagon with its Tillman and Lynch fairy tales followed right behind. Thank you for shining a light on this story, as there are still some people out there with their heads buried in the sand....or wherever! :)

Posted by: Barb | April 26, 2007 12:14 AM

As millions of us around the world took to the streets and tried by any means, as did the Pope, to point out the invasion of Iraq was morally indefensible, against American interests, and doomed to make matters much worse, why didn't most Americans get it? Why do Americans still want to be lied to and fleeced?

Posted by: Tobey Llop | April 26, 2007 12:14 AM

Hello. My Name is Nathan Ive, I am a radio talk show host based in Cincinnati, Ohio. I am the last progressive voice in Cincinnati radio. I would love to have you guys on my show.My email address is rockthemic@radio.am. The moyers piece was powerful. Thankfully I never bought into the spin. I am a faithful reader of Knight-Ridder.

Posted by: Nathan Ive | April 26, 2007 12:13 AM

Thank you both for your fine reporting and for your willingness to dig deeper and uncover the real facts. Please tell me which paper you work for now, so I can subscribe to it. For Reid Pierce and his comments above on reporting on global warming, I suggest Mr. Pierce do the same kind of background research you did. Rather than taking information from political sources or industry, he might look to the actual scientific information itself. He will find, if he does so, that the evidence for global warming and its dangers are overwhelming and, unlike the arguments for war, not based on a shallow pool of information and distortions.

Posted by: Catherine Marquis-Homeyer | April 26, 2007 12:13 AM

Fantastic reporting and long overdue. In spite of the missing Curve Ball and Niger stories, it is obvious, that this administration has conned us for many years now. And the Pentagon with its Tillman and Lynch fairy tales followed right behind. Thank you for shining a light on this story, as there are still some people out there with their heads buried in the sand....or wherever! :)

Posted by: Barb | April 26, 2007 12:13 AM

If we as citizens do not hold these administration people criminally accountable from the president to the former officials,then this American experiment of a government of law is finished.The first casualty of war is "Truth".

Posted by: Alex | April 26, 2007 12:13 AM

Thank you to Bill Moyers, both of you, and AP. I so hope our world remembers the importance of journalism over corporate profits for those who one most major media outlets before even more horrific disasters go unchallenged.

Posted by: Mary Anne Maier | April 26, 2007 12:13 AM

Even now, the media in general continues to fail to do its job in the face of mounting investigations pointing to an administration that has proven time and again to be so consistently wrong. The biggest indictment of the job the media in general is doing now is that one third of the country still believes that Saddam Hussein had something to do with the September 11 attacks. Sometimes I am left wondering if I am the one who is wrong and I am guilty of seeing conspiracies where there are none. If it were not for reporters like yourselves, who remained loyal to the American people and the ideals and responsibilities of being a member of the Fourth Estate even while facing being labeled unpatriotic, we would not be where we are now, trying to find a way out. I don't know how you did it for so long, and I can't imagine how much criticism you and others might have taken these past few years, but thank you for all your hard work.

Posted by: Sandra R. | April 26, 2007 12:12 AM

Thank you for tonight's program. Unfortunately, it is more than a little late. Is America ready to find out that 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB?? Some of us KNOW a controlled demolition when we see one. On 911 we saw THREE. And, yes, there is lots of evidence. Do you reporters have the guts to do some REAL journalism?? Peace be upon the earth and among all beings.

Posted by: Roy Smith | April 26, 2007 12:12 AM

Thanks for the great report. "Its great how the media, which is able to overwhelm all other voices can turn lies into truth. They are not answerable to the people. Only the politicians regulate them. politicians give them favors and campaigning contributions. The sheeple of the United States are so used to it they don't care." I find it laughable that the mainstream media (Cable, TV, Radio, Newspapers) are all owned by 4 or 5 international corrupt-iations. The way the FCC is on the record as saying that the interest of the huge company's free speech is more than the public interest's plainly proves that the media and government are bed-fellows. Big media doesn't have investigating teams, they goto the talking heads of the government and relay the propaganda and messages to us. Its funny how they reported that in the 2000 election bush had already won, and gore was "just not giving up". Look into it, if you were interested in this report I would recommend Orwell Turns In His Grave (Documentary). Catch it at http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1925114769515892401

Posted by: Jeffrey LeBlanc | April 26, 2007 12:12 AM

I cannot express my gratitude and admiration for what you've done. Even with the miasma of 9/11, it is difficult to understand how so many mature, experienced, reasonably intelligent people found these pretenders credible.

Posted by: Gerald Ganann | April 26, 2007 12:11 AM

Gentlemen, I first want to applaud your efforts and steadfast resolution in not falling into line like most mainstream news affiliations. My question for you is this - in a time where we as a nation are beginning to reflect more with our minds than emotion, is there hope for the media to re-establish itself was a force for holding politicians culpable for their indiscretions and lack of foresight, or will the political machinist media continue to run rampant feeding the minds of ill-informed citizens who have bought into their rhetoric from the start? Thank you again for staying true to what every journalist should hold sacred - their skepticism. Jim

Posted by: James | April 26, 2007 12:11 AM

Finally the TRUTH! How Refreshing!!! Thank You & God Bless You! -From a Christian Liberal.

Posted by: marcia C | April 26, 2007 12:11 AM

I was a journalism student at the time of the invasion, Colin Powell's presentation to the UN, etc. I experienced such a cognitive dissonance between what I was being taught in my journalism classes and what I was seeing/hearing/reading in the MSM that I tuned out the news altogether, and no longer use mainstream news for information purposes. I tuned in tonight because I found the idea of any discussion of media culpability in the Iraq war incredible. I'm happy to say I was very impressed, for the first time since Basic Newswriting 101. Big Media is certainly responsible for allowing the Iraq war to move forward on inaccurate facts and outright falsehoods, and has squandered every last ounce of its Fourth Estate credibility as a result. But that credibility could be restored, in my own opinion, if the responsible parties publicly admitted their error and plunged ahead with the work of reporting WHY the Bush administration was so hell-bent on tying the invasion to 9/11; and, as some others have pointed out, reporting on how this "why" ties into the glaring holes in the Kean Commission's official 9/11 mythology. There's tons of stuff there that needs to be researched...

Posted by: Paula | April 26, 2007 12:11 AM

I give Moyer's a C+ for this show. I rarely read newspapers, watch TV or listen to the radio but Independent Media has kept me in the know for years. My Inbox is full of Truthdig, Common Dreams, Tom Dispatch and DEMOCRACY NOW!!! Thank God for Amy Goodman. Why no mention of Howard Zinn or Noam Chomsky??? If you want to know, it's easy, as you guys found out. And why so much Dan Rather? What a pathetic looser. It's painful to see him say nothing. Glad he's gone. You two were fine.

Posted by: Patrick Zwick | April 26, 2007 12:11 AM

I really don't blame the media as much as some I think. Intelligent, concerned citizens could have seen the whitewash that was being given us by the white house in 2002 and 2003. I did. It is my opinion that his country as a whole was hellbent for going to war. What's amazing now to me now is how the greatest country in the world is still unable to find Obama Bin Laden and the press still doesn't seem to be pressuring the White House to really do something about it. But it wouldn't surprise me at all to see something actually accomplished in that regard prior to the upcoming election just to make republicans and conservatives look good. p.s. the interview with Phil Donahue was the most unnerving. What his bosses were telling him and what happened in the end is just so wrong and unpatriotic. I am so glad I do have or watch cable television.

Posted by: Dave | April 26, 2007 12:11 AM

so why did the president and his people want to go to war so badly(quickly)was it for oil?or some oter reason.seems like many people have gotten tremendously rich from this war.surely they did not believe their own lies.so why go to war with out any real hard edvidence.seems to be many theories on this matter.why??

Posted by: paul bklyn | April 26, 2007 12:11 AM

I was a journalism student at the time of the invasion, Colin Powell's presentation to the UN, etc. I experienced such a cognitive dissonance between what I was being taught in my journalism classes and what I was seeing/hearing/reading in the MSM that I tuned out the news altogether, and no longer use mainstream news for information purposes. I tuned in tonight because I found the idea of any discussion of media culpability in the Iraq war incredible. I'm happy to say I was very impressed, for the first time since Basic Newswriting 101. Big Media is certainly responsible for allowing the Iraq war to move forward on inaccurate facts and outright falsehoods, and has squandered every last ounce of its Fourth Estate credibility as a result. But that credibility could be restored, in my own opinion, if the responsible parties publicly admitted their error and plunged ahead with the work of reporting WHY the Bush administration was so hell-bent on tying the invasion to 9/11; and, as some others have pointed out, reporting on how this "why" ties into the glaring holes in the Kean Commission's official 9/11 mythology. There's tons of stuff there that needs to be researched...

Posted by: Paula | April 26, 2007 12:10 AM

I took Powell's bait, hook line and sinker. I've been mad as hades ever since. My question: 9/11 saw mostly Saudi Nationalist involved. Bin Laden took credit as well. The Saudi link has NEVER been investigated....WHY??? Finally, why haven't the Downing Street minutes of 2002, the "smoking gun" revealing "the fixing of facts" for war never been fully covered by you or anyone else in the US media??? Those minutes alone prove the lies and deception of this war. Thanks for your work- Rev. Bradford N. Bray, Ret Capt USAF-ANG of this bs war.

Posted by: Bradford Nelson Bray | April 26, 2007 12:10 AM

This program may have been eye-opening for some. However, even without my intelligence sources, I knew that the WMD claims were false, and we were going to invade Iraq no matter what. I was told by my fellow Army officers that my view point wasn't "fair and balanced," and that I wasn't afraid enough of the terrorists. I am concerned now that the press is buying into groupthink once again by obsessing over who best "supports the troops," whether a "timeline for withdrawal" empowers the enemy, and replaying verbal snipes between the President and the Democrats. Surely there are new angles to report!

Posted by: janine-iraq veterans against the war | April 26, 2007 12:10 AM

Thank you for doing an incredibly important job. What you two did as true journalists could only be highlighted and shown by another authentic journalist—Bill Moyers. Thank you Mr. Moyers for returning to us professional, reliable, objective journalism. Where have you been? The nation has been turning its “lonely eyes to you.” We tend to talk about the media’s “failure” to push and question the administration and their ludicrous and outright embarrassingly silly evidence, which they presented as infallible in order to sell their war. However, I don’t think that we can honestly speak of “media’s failure.” The media corporations successfully accomplished exactly what they set out to do, or should we ignore the powerful people who today own the mass communication organisms, and their marriage to politicians, particularly to those who embody this current government. I personally never “bought” the war. I found the arguments for it farfetched and illogical. I also questioned the nation’s reaction to the tragic events of 9/11. I saw the xenophobia and belligerent rhetoric and actions as a sign of weakness—not of strength. In Spain, a nation who is familiar with terrorism, Spaniards showed strength when they did not allow President José María Aznar...

Posted by: Marianella Belliard | April 26, 2007 12:10 AM

What ever happened to the "Washington Post" of the Watergate era? They had guts.

Posted by: Michael O'Connor | April 26, 2007 12:09 AM

Thanks for your honest reporting and courage to search out the truth. I've been monitoring media reports concerning foreign affairs and its relative importance within the American political sphere and how media conveys that to the American public since prior to the 2000 election. I am relieved to see much of what I have been aware of, and have been sharing with others, revealed by Bill Moyers and other reporters whose integrity remains intact. I truly hope the US can rebound from the tragic mistakes and missteps of the last seven years. If they weren't based upon greed and avarice, I'd be more hopeful. The Bush administration and its foibles have tragically cast this entire country and much of the world into a condition that will take a very, very long time from which to recover. However, thank God that the "sleepers" have now awakened! If Americans can take responsibility for the undeserved actions we have brought upon others, as a result of this so-called "war on terror," perhaps there will be some redemption for this country. Sure, there was a dictatorial leader in Iraq, embraced and supported for years by US interests, like we now are doing with Al-Maliki...

Posted by: Hanan | April 26, 2007 12:09 AM

Finally the TRUTH! How Refreshing!!! Thank You & God Bless You! -From a Christian Liberal.

Posted by: Marcia C | April 26, 2007 12:09 AM

Thank you for doing an incredibly important job. What you two did as true journalists could only be highlighted and shown by another authentic journalist—Bill Moyers. Thank you Mr. Moyers for returning to us professional, reliable, objective journalism. Where have you been? The nation has been turning its “lonely eyes to you.” We tend to talk about the media’s “failure” to push and question the administration and their ludicrous and outright embarrassingly silly evidence, which they presented as infallible in order to sell their war. However, I don’t think that we can honestly speak of “media’s failure.” The media corporations successfully accomplished exactly what they set out to do, or should we ignore the powerful people who today own the mass communication organisms, and their marriage to politicians, particularly to those who embody this current government. I personally never “bought” the war. I found the arguments for it farfetched and illogical. I also questioned the nation’s reaction to the tragic events of 9/11. I saw the xenophobia and belligerent rhetoric and actions as a sign of weakness—not of strength. In Spain, a nation who is familiar with terrorism, Spaniards showed strength when they did not allow President José María Aznar...

Posted by: Marianella Belliard | April 26, 2007 12:09 AM

Wolfowitz had promised Americans wouldn't pay for the war. Why does the administration ask that this undeclared war continue to be funded by an emergency supplemental instead of being part of the DoD budget? The prez has asked for a specified amount and we have the passt 4 years fo reflect on and estimate real costs. And why don't Democrats now put it in the budget rather than comply with the Prez' request for the money, timetables notwithstanding?

Posted by: Jeff L. | April 26, 2007 12:09 AM

WOW!! I was, at least as a bar going 20 - 21 year old at the time(2002-2003), sucked in hook, line, & sinker to the evidence furnished me by the news media. As a younger person, I never really though to challenge what the major media channels were reporting, how could I have been so wrong. I know wonder, as this continues to happen, what/who to believe and trust, where to get my information, and if anybody may be held accountable for their actions. I just saw a piece on my local public station yesterday, here in Chicago, about the possible/probable corruption of media and the negativity that media consolidation would bring. This was a speech by John Nichols given to the League of Women Voters. I feel that, maybe not in whole but at least in part, their may be a connection with those views and the misrepresentation given by many news media groups in this country. I've always taken most things with a grain of salt, but recently have begun to be much more interested in this whole field and have now raised a serious eyebrow very high as to what has and is going on. -Christian Anderson...

Posted by: Christian Anderson | April 26, 2007 12:08 AM

Thanks for a well documented summary of the snow job (way before Tony)that all but those of us who watched news from outside of the U.S. bought. Move-on.org was very informative. I remember thinking how hard our press dug to get every juicy detail about the blxx job in the oral office to the point of impeachment...seems much less heinous in light of the deadly lies contrived to sell this war. Reasons? See OIL=Halburton and the Whigs connected interests. (Check out the movie "Why We Fight." Another reason most patriots bought it was that we needed a dog to kick at the time...Saddam Insane seemed to fill the bill. Let's remember that when Dems gave their support for the commander to raise the sword, it was ONLY given with the understanding that all inspectors had time to finish. That didn't happen. Too bad we can't get a do over. Thanks for the rant, I should've done more.

Posted by: Mary Bentley | April 26, 2007 12:08 AM

Remember how artists in the film industry created United Artists so that they could express their vision? Can't we do the same for the "news" media. Can't commited reporters and news professionals create a reasonably salaried network (A Mission!!!) that would have as their lifes work,or calling , an initiative that would Provide Humanity With The Information They Need In Order To Become Successful?

Posted by: Alonzo Brown | April 26, 2007 12:08 AM

In the same light...Why is no one talking about the current request to change laws so that the government can enter the homes of U.S. citizens to copy the hard drive of their computers without their knowledge or privacy protections?

Posted by: Tia | April 26, 2007 12:08 AM

Shame on the Times and shame on the Post! I'll get my "news" somewhere else in the future. I don't want revenge. I would like accountability for the lies that have killed 3,000+ of our boys and girls, tens of thousands of Iraqis and made the world infinitely less safe for all of us. Do they just get away with it? They crucified Clinton with scurrilous, vitriolic attacks for a harmless affair that pales in comparison with the death and destruction wrought on the Iraqis, our children, and their families. Will there be no accountability on this Earth for these horrendous, boldface, manipulative lies and fabrications? It looks like the media has no stomach for that fight either.

Posted by: Regis | April 26, 2007 12:08 AM

Wolfowitz had promised Americans wouldn't pay for the war. Why does the administration ask that this undeclared war continue to be funded by an emergency supplemental instead of being part of the DoD budget? The prez has asked for a specified amount and we have the passt 4 years fo reflect on and estimate real costs. And why don't Democrats now put it in the budget rather than comply with the Prez' request for the money, timetables notwithstanding?

Posted by: Jeff L. | April 26, 2007 12:08 AM

Thank you for doing an incredibly important job. What you two did as true journalists could only be highlighted and shown by another authentic journalist—Bill Moyers. Thank you Mr. Moyers for returning to us professional, reliable, objective journalism. Where have you been? The nation has been turning its “lonely eyes to you.” We tend to talk about the media’s “failure” to push and question the administration and their ludicrous and outright embarrassingly silly evidence, which they presented as infallible in order to sell their war. However, I don’t think that we can honestly speak of “media’s failure.” The media corporations successfully accomplished exactly what they set out to do, or should we ignore the powerful people who today own the mass communication organisms, and their marriage to politicians, particularly to those who embody this current government. I personally never “bought” the war. I found the arguments for it farfetched and illogical. I also questioned the nation’s reaction to the tragic events of 9/11. I saw the xenophobia and belligerent rhetoric and actions as a sign of weakness—not of strength. In Spain, a nation who is familiar with terrorism, Spaniards showed strength when they did not allow President José María Aznar...

Posted by: Marianella Belliard | April 26, 2007 12:08 AM

I am so happy that the facts are starting to come out on this outrageous, scandalous hoax that has been perpetrated upon the American people. It makes me hopeful that the ego-maniacal criminals in the government will be called to account. Thank you Mssrs. Landay, Strobel, and Moyers! XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOX

Posted by: Dorothea | April 26, 2007 12:08 AM

Wolfowitz had promised Americans wouldn't pay for the war. Why does the administration ask that this undeclared war continue to be funded by an emergency supplemental instead of being part of the DoD budget? The prez has asked for a specified amount and we have the passt 4 years fo reflect on and estimate real costs. And why don't Democrats now put it in the budget rather than comply with the Prez' request for the money, timetables notwithstanding?

Posted by: Jeff L. | April 26, 2007 12:08 AM

I really don't blame the media as much as some I think. Intelligent, concerned citizens could have seen the whitewash that was being given us by the white house in 2002 and 2003. I did. It is my opinion that his country as a whole was hellbent for going to war. What's amazing now to me now is how the greatest country in the world is still unable to find Obama Bin Laden and the press still doesn't seem to be pressuring the White House to really do something about it. But it wouldn't surprise me at all to see something actually accomplished in that regard prior to the upcoming election just to make republicans and conservatives look good. p.s. the interview with Phil Donahue was the most unnerving. What his bosses were telling him and what happened in the end is just so wrong and unpatriotic. I am so glad I do have or watch cable television.

Posted by: Dave | April 26, 2007 12:07 AM

Certainly a 'worth watching' documentary, but mostly old news for those who visit DemocracyNow.org on a daily basis. So where's Strobel and Landay? I was under the impression that we would all be in a chat room with a moderator... IMPEACH 'EM ALL!

Posted by: Jamie Parks | April 26, 2007 12:07 AM

Warren and Jonathan, You recognized that the "intelligence" on which the case for war in Iraq had been cooked. You were not alone. I too questioned that evidence in correspondence to the President and the chairmen of the House and Senate Intelligence Committees -- before the war. For the record, the President replied with a letter unresponsive to my concerns. I shredded it; the two chairmen never replied. There were many others who knew, or should have known, that the evidence on which the case was built was not trustworthy enough to justify even the grossly understated risks of going to war then touted by the Bush-Cheney-Powell-Rumsfeld-Rice regime. To their eternal discredit others should have seen through the fabric of lies and sounded the alarm, but instead they kept silent. The capacity for critical thinking remains alive in and well-exercised by only a tiny minority of our citizenry. The greatest threat to this country is not an outside force but the inability of individual citizens to analyze problems and adopt or support rational courses of action. One might quibble whether your actions in covering the story of the run-up to the war in Iraq qualify as "heroic." What is clear...

Posted by: C.K. Roberts | April 26, 2007 12:07 AM

Now I know where to go to find accurate reporting about the presidential candidates running in 2008.

Posted by: Kitty D. | April 26, 2007 12:07 AM

I was a journalism student at the time of the invasion, Colin Powell's presentation to the UN, etc. I experienced such a cognitive dissonance between what I was being taught in my journalism classes and what I was seeing/hearing/reading in the MSM that I tuned out the news altogether, and no longer use mainstream news for information purposes. I tuned in tonight because I found the idea of any discussion of media culpability in the Iraq war incredible. I'm happy to say I was very impressed, for the first time since Basic Newswriting 101. Big Media is certainly responsible for allowing the Iraq war to move forward on inaccurate facts and outright falsehoods, and has squandered every last ounce of its Fourth Estate credibility as a result. But that credibility could be restored, in my own opinion, if the responsible parties publicly admitted their error and plunged ahead with the work of reporting WHY the Bush administration was so hell-bent on tying the invasion to 9/11; and, as some others have pointed out, reporting on how this "why" ties into the glaring holes in the Kean Commission's official 9/11 mythology. There's tons of stuff there that needs to be researched...

Posted by: Paula | April 26, 2007 12:06 AM

A great job of reporting the truth, I hope the rest of the news media seen this and do their job of reporting the facts.

Posted by: R. Hubler | April 26, 2007 12:06 AM

Great reporting. Do you think any current American leader will be brought to justice for this awful, deceitful mess?

Posted by: Ed | April 26, 2007 12:06 AM

I think the best way to say this is to say that I enjoyed this piece the way I enjoyed Saving Private Ryan. It hurts me to my core to see and to understand things the way they transpired, but it was certainly worth my time to consume. I wanted to mention an interesting point. In my lap is the April 23 issue of Time Magazine. The end of Mr. Moyer's piece (I was Harry Middleton's assistant for 2 years at the LBJ Foundation, I'm a big fan of Mr. Moyers), he makes the claim that Mr. Kristol and another are regular contributors to Time. I can't claim to be a regular reader. However, the only person who has contributed to this issue that was mentioned in Mr. Moyers' piece is Peter Beinart. I don’t know what to make of this.

Posted by: Adam | April 26, 2007 12:06 AM

Anderson Copper came to visit my school (University of Kansas) and basically said that he is a whore to ratings and that he is unable to devote appropriate time to important "news" if the show's ratings will fall. There is a major dilemma of the "news" turning to the side of entertainment and punditry.

Posted by: Jimmy Kimmel Live | April 26, 2007 12:06 AM

To the journalists at Knight Ridder: God bless you unsung saints of journalism. Although your newspapers were not read by many Americans leading up to the war, you can be assured that your service in the name of honest journalism is appreciated. To Bill Moyers, your show was enlightening, honest, transparent, and one of the best shows on the current state of the media in the US. This is a perfect example of what happens when the opposition is silenced and opposition leaders are diminished. Thank you for your service to America. Thank you for reporting this important story.

Posted by: D Lajoie | April 26, 2007 12:06 AM

Hello Thank you so much for such a good and I dare say brave show. As a Canadian who is concerned about the future of the United States, the evidence of media self-delusion and groupthink makes one weep for your republic. If it is true, as some feel, that America is now an empire, was Iraq your Rubicon? Is there no turning

Posted by: Robert Rodbourne | April 26, 2007 12:06 AM

Bravo! for a job well-done on tonight's broadcast. You may be happy to know... at least I am happy to say -- that I have cancelled my subscription to NY Times. I shall review all my print media subscriptions. Long ago, when reading a book by Marilyn vos Savant, I learned that media -- print and broadcast -- is biased. I have since tried to have access to what I thought was the most objective... not "neutral"... but objective... reporting facts along with the spinning wheels of the pundits like Cristol and others... Again, thank you for the excellent review. Hindsight is always 20-20. In you guys' case your foresight was as well. I'm sorry that we didn't get the message in time... and I'm sure there are millions who have been affected by the vast number of deaths and maimings (both in our defense forces and those who were slaughtered by our defense forces... oh wait! shouldn't we be calling them our "offense" forces?)

Posted by: Chris | April 26, 2007 12:05 AM

Stunning. It covered it all. I am almost speechless with awe. It confirms and affirms my perceptions at that time. That is when I became involved in news and politics, and discovered the PNAC documents. I had such doubts about what I was hearing. It seems many did. Some were silent and some were silenced. Every American should be required to watch this 90 minute retrospective. Every journalist and journalism student should be required to watch it, and to write a responsive commentary for publication. McClatchey has been doing such great work lately. I did not realize how much good work they were doing in the face of the patriotic fervor back then.

Posted by: Catte | April 26, 2007 12:05 AM

Honored Gentlemen: As a former working journalist, I want to thank you for staying true to the profession. And I want to ask you what we as civilians can do to demand that media management gives us good reporters instead of pundit monkeys? And by the way, I didn't believe one word that came out of that lying administration's mind in the runup to the war. I'm just an old Montana girl who learned her journalism during the Vietnam war and I'm having major deja vu. Best wishes always and may God bless you, as he blesses all who live by the truth, Mary W.

Posted by: Mary W. | April 26, 2007 12:05 AM

Mr. Landay, Mr. Strobel, thank you for the great journalism. What is the next major administration lie you think is important for reporters to debunk?

Posted by: Chuck Robinson | April 26, 2007 12:05 AM

I took Powell's bait, hook line and sinker. I've been mad as hades ever since. My question: 9/11 saw mostly Saudi Nationalist involved. Bin Laden took credit as well. The Saudi link has NEVER been investigated....WHY??? Finally, why haven't the Downing Street minutes of 2002, the "smoking gun" revealing "the fixing of facts" for war never been fully covered by you or anyone else in the US media??? Those minutes alone prove the lies and deception of this war. Thanks for your work- Rev. Bradford N. Bray, Ret Capt USAF-ANG of this bs war.

Posted by: Bradford Nelson Bray | April 26, 2007 12:04 AM

Anderson Copper came to visit my school (University of Kansas) and basically said that he is a whore to ratings and that he is unable to devote appropriate time to important "news" if the show's ratings will fall. There is a major dilemma of the "news" turning to the side of entertainment and punditry.

Posted by: Jimmy Kimmel Live | April 26, 2007 12:04 AM

Well Done, I just watched the show and it was the first primetime tv critique of Operation Iraqi Liberation (OIL) that I've seen. It was interesting to hear the CEO of CNN say that they were snapped into line by FOX's aggressive reporting tactics. To examing this fear more closely I'd recommend the documentary 'Outfoxed: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism' Also I recently saw the documentary 'Iraq for $ale' and would recommend it if you liked this. Keep digging KR! Moyers Thank you.

Posted by: Dan | April 26, 2007 12:04 AM

Everyone, please hit refresh often. Do you see the comments flooding in? Have you already donated your $$? Enjoy this 'Citizen surge.' BTW, let's all stop calling the added troops a surge. Let's call it what it really is...escalation. Moyers-Buying the War should be required viewing for EVERY US Citizen.

Posted by: Dan Nyberg | April 26, 2007 12:04 AM

Stunning. It covered it all. I am almost speechless with awe. It confirms and affirms my perceptions at that time. That is when I became involved in news and politics, and discovered the PNAC documents. I had such doubts about what I was hearing. It seems many did. Some were silent and some were silenced. Every American should be required to watch this 90 minute retrospective. Every journalist and journalism student should be required to watch it, and to write a responsive commentary for publication. McClatchey has been doing such great work lately. I did not realize how much good work they were doing in the face of the patriotic fervor back then.

Posted by: Catte | April 26, 2007 12:04 AM

4/25/2007 Dear Bill and the old Knight-Ridder team and Phil Donahue, What now? We the audience and citizens of this country are part of this problem. We tend to get lazy for the evening news hour by always wanting to focus on what I call ” comfort food news". Many in the general population have little or no conception of what critical news is or a desire for listening to the other side of a debate. Fortunately, the Internet, blogs, progressive radio and PBS, NPR are places where alternative points of view are available. I never did buy the Cheney Bush line for justifying the Iraq war. I did not hear many voices that concurred with my viewpoint. This has been well documented in your excellent news documentary tonight. I am going to sign up with McClatchy for their online news. I have been online with the NY TIMES, WASH POST AND THE DALLAS PAPERS. These news organizations I now realize are next to worthless for reliable and accurate news content. I will still read them but now I will go to the library to get these papers. Again, thanks for a great program. We need to look to...

Posted by: B Wilson | April 26, 2007 12:03 AM

Bill Moyers - awesome as always. Thank you also to Mr. Landay and Mr. Strobel for being courageous enough to question. I remember well the atmosphere of fear and intimidation during that time, and remember being floored by the coverage. Literally one had to go to the BBC to get any news at all. I'm not a nuclear weapons expert, and still the entire selling of the war did not pass the smell test for me. Also, even though they are not mainstream, I was surprised to not hear any mention of Amy Goodman/Democracy Now in the piece tonight. They were consistently skeptical - and even though they were opinion-based, they were correct, and largely ignored and dismissed. The state of journalism is very sad. The Foxification of news has really resulted in more opinion than real information. Anyone who dares to question is bulldozed by a right-wing attack machine. Just ask Dan Rather. I was so mad when they went after him. How much more this atmosphere was true in in 2002-2003. For God's sake even the Dixie Chicks got death threats for questioning the war, and there are people who are still mad at them. Personally, I never...

Posted by: Lyn | April 26, 2007 12:03 AM

Shame on the Times and shame on the Post! I'll get my "news" somewhere else in the future. I don't want revenge. I would like accountability for the lies that have killed 3,000+ of our boys and girls, tens of thousands of Iraqis and made the world infinitely less safe for all of us. Do they just get away with it? They crucified Clinton with scurrilous, vitriolic attacks for a harmless affair that pales in comparison with the death and destruction wrought on the Iraqis, our children, and their families. Will there be no accountability on this Earth for these horrendous, boldface, manipulative lies and fabrications? It looks like the media has no stomach for that fight either.

Posted by: Regis | April 26, 2007 12:03 AM

Wolfowitz had promised Americans wouldn't pay for the war. Why does the administration ask that this undeclared war continue to be funded by an emergency supplemental instead of being part of the DoD budget? The prez has asked for a specified amount and we have the passt 4 years fo reflect on and estimate real costs. And why don't Democrats now put it in the budget rather than comply with the Prez' request for the money, timetables notwithstanding?

Posted by: Jeff L. | April 26, 2007 12:03 AM

Thank You, To the 2 reporters&Knight-Ridder for a job well-done. It was great hearing "REAL" facts again. I quit watching Fox-News 2-yrs. ago. It,s either PBSorLou Dobbs. Thanks for a job well done. Marc

Posted by: Marc Picard | April 26, 2007 12:03 AM

"The most effectual engines for [pacifying a nation] are the public papers... [A despotic] government always [keeps] a kind of standing army of newswriters who, without any regard to truth or to what should be like truth, [invent] and put into the papers whatever might serve the ministers. This suffices with the mass of the people who have no means of distinguishing the false from the true paragraphs of a newspaper." --Thomas Jefferson

Posted by: Aaron Anderson | April 26, 2007 12:03 AM

Those of us most profoundly affected by this war are also the most grateful to those of you who tried to see beyond the rhetoric and kept printing stories, albeit deep inside newspapers, that at least gave us some reason to continue our skepticism. As the politicians sling phrases like "support the troops" and really mean "support our agenda", we sometimes wonder if there is anyone listening to us. As our husbands and brothers and sons and yes, even mothers and daughters, go back again and again and each time come back angrier and more disillusioned, we wait for someone to tell the story that we can't. We can't tell them "you can't do this", because they must, and we can't say "we can't do this" because we have to bring them home as whole as they can be. Walter Reed is the tip of the iceberg for the betrayal of our troops, someone needs to follow up on the lack of mental health care for returning soldiers, on the destruction of families and marriages by the toll of repeated deployments, on deaths due to insufficient armor and equipment. The military is crumbling from the inside out, but those of...

Posted by: Val H. | April 26, 2007 12:03 AM

I was wondering whether either of you were aware of the U.S. Air Force program called the Civilian Reserve Air Fleet. Under CRAF, the Air Force uses private air cargo companies to haul weapons to Iraq and Afghanistan. It's a story that so far has been flying under the radar, while the CIA renditions has gotten more attention. Like the renditions, though it appears that some of the contracted private cargo services also have ties to the CIA. You can read more about it in an Illinois Times story I wrote last fall: http://www.illinoistimes.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A5843

Posted by: C.D. Stelzer | April 26, 2007 12:03 AM

Gentlemen, I first want to applaud your efforts and steadfast resolution in not falling into line like most mainstream news affiliations. My question for you is this - in a time where we as a nation are beginning to reflect more with our minds than emotion, is there hope for the media to re-establish itself was a force for holding politicians culpable for their indiscretions and lack of foresight, or will the political machinist media continue to run rampant feeding the minds of ill-informed citizens who have bought into their rhetoric from the start? Thank you again for staying true to what every journalist should hold sacred - their skepticism. Jim

Posted by: James | April 26, 2007 12:02 AM

Everyone, please hit refresh often. Do you see the comments flooding in? Have you already donated your $$? Enjoy this 'Citizen surge.' Moyers-Buying the War should be required viewing for EVERY US Citizen.

Posted by: Dan Nyberg | April 26, 2007 12:02 AM

I watched 'Buying The War' and found it refreshing and depressing at the same time. One item that seems to always go unmentioned is the fact that the vast majority of the people pushing for war are Jews. From the likes of Wolfowitz and Pearl to Kristol and Safire, their primary focus is always to allow Israel to remain the only power in the Middle East. Bush and Cheney may have been motivated by politics (oil) and money (Haliburton), but I'm sure you'll see the same Jews writing or talking about Iran next. Doesn't it occur to anyone to see what motivates these "reporters" other than ratings/copies? Maybe if Israel wasn't blindly supported by the USA, fewer countries in the region would feel the need to have WMD (which are increasingly NOT being purchased from the USA). Also the hypocrisy of these "reporters" on pushing for attacking Arabs and Persians for WMD, but ignoring the WMD and possible nuclear weapons of their fellow Jews, should show that their loyalty lies with Israel not the USA, whose primarily Christian soldiers are being killed in the Middle East. If the USA really wants to stop terrorism, start by not giving weapons and...

Posted by: M Zaki | April 26, 2007 12:02 AM

Everyone, please hit refresh often. Do you see the comments flooding in? Have you already donated your $$? Enjoy this 'Citizen surge.' Moyers-Buying the War should be required viewing for EVERY US Citizen.

Posted by: Dan Nyberg | April 26, 2007 12:01 AM

Shame on the Times and shame on the Post! I'll get my "news" somewhere else in the future. I don't want revenge. I would like accountability for the lies that have killed 3,000+ of our boys and girls, tens of thousands of Iraqis and made the world infinitely less safe for all of us. Do they just get away with it? They crucified Clinton with scurrilous, vitriolic attacks for a harmless affair that pales in comparison with the death and destruction wrought on the Iraqis, our children, and their families. Will there be no accountability on this Earth for these horrendous, boldface, manipulative lies and fabrications? It looks like the media has no stomach for that fight either.

Posted by: Regis | April 26, 2007 12:01 AM

What truly worries me is all I could think of was the movie "Wag The Dog" as I learned more and more of what I feared was the motive for the war. History will show this as one of our darkest times. Greatest Fear: The media fails to ask forgiveness and show the truth at a time when we are about to make the same mistake. Question: Is thrtr hope for trusting the media again? If yes, why and how; if no, what's next?

Posted by: Bill O'Neill | April 26, 2007 12:01 AM

Finally! You're report gives me some hope America is starting to recover from the most serious damage done by Bin Laden - the weakening of your very democracy. If his goal was to make America less of a free and democratic place, where the truth used to come out - then regrettably, he succeeded beyond belief. Donahue's comment hit, I think, the key causal link in the failure of American democracy, which enabled your government to start a popular unjust war and untold slaughter in Iraq. He said questioning the government's war pitch "was bad for business". Telling an overwhelming majority of citizens about something of which they've been passionately convinced is otherwise, is bad for ratings and therefore, bad for business and because of your media ownership structure (except PBS thank god), it won't get aired. So once your Government somehow convinces the vast majority to passionately believe in something ("911-Saddam-Al Queda","911-Saddam-Al Qaeda","911-Saddam-Al Qaeda"...), then it appears your privately owned press is relatively (or spectacularly) unwilling to check it. Your democracy fails - it's unable to resist a corruption of truth.

Posted by: Craig Wilson | April 26, 2007 12:01 AM

Hi, I thoroughly appreciated this show and very much appreciate your continued search for truth. I'm a 65 year old investigative social worker in child protection. As I watched the buildup to the war, I found myself yelling at the television...Ask them this...Ask them ...When Rumsfeld made the statement that not only did we know Iraq had WMD's, we knew where they were, I yelled to the reporter to ask him why he didn't let the inspectors (who were still on the ground in Iraq) have that information. Stop the war before it starts. I cried, I yelled, then I simply stopped watching. I went to the internet, I bought an XM and listened to Air America (left of course), watched CSPAN, Stephen Colbert and John Stewart. I heard about Knight Ridder and your investigative journalism. My sanity was saved. I am still so ticked at the main stream media for their willingness to drink the kool aid, and am angry at those in my party who did the same. I simply believe if I saw the lies, they should have. This can never happen again. We have to insist on fairness and accuracy in reporting. Thank you, thank you...

Posted by: Chris Purcell | April 26, 2007 12:00 AM

Wolfowitz had promised Americans wouldn't pay for the war. Why does the administration ask that this undeclared war continue to be funded by an emergency supplemental instead of being part of the DoD budget? The prez has asked for a specified amount and we have the passt 4 years fo reflect on and estimate real costs. And why don't Democrats now put it in the budget rather than comply with the Prez' request for the money, timetables notwithstanding?

Posted by: Jeff L. | April 26, 2007 12:00 AM

So, what now? We should apologize to Iraq immediately. Write them a check for the damage we caused and leave. But, of course, as an African-American I know we won't do this. This war will forever be a stain on our nation's honor

Posted by: Hannah Valley | April 26, 2007 12:00 AM

Now I know where to go to find accurate reporting about the presidential candidates running in 2008.

Posted by: Kitty D. | April 26, 2007 12:00 AM

Thanks for your efforts to provide the truth. I'm reminded of a Mark Twain quote: "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect."

Posted by: Ron | April 26, 2007 12:00 AM

As Bush prepared to take office in January 2001, CNN was covering news throughout Europe of NATO troops who had served during the bombing of Kosovo coming up with an increase in cancers, especially leukemia. The problem was the depleted uranium centers of penetrator weapons used in the bombing campaign. It was the 2nd major use of these weapons, the first being the first Gulf War, which left Iraq a contaminated country. So, at the beginning of 2001, the World Health Organization did a study of the potential connection between the weapons used by the United States and Great Britain in Europe and the increase in cancers among NATO soldiers. Dr. Keith Baverstock, the WHO expert on radiation, came back with a report that would have revealed the responsibility of the DU weaponry. His report was shelved, under pressure. The effects of depleted uranium on the people of Iraq and Afghanistan, on our military and support systems, on the mantel of the earth, on the DNA of life on the planet -- are devastating, well-researched, and have increased both hatred for Americans -- and a nothing-to-lose hysteria amongst those who cannot escape the ongoing effects. As we question the official...

Posted by: Barbara Bellows-TerraNova | April 26, 2007 12:00 AM

Thank you for your fine reporting, which I did read during the pre-war period. You have tremendous courage. My question to you is: Given that The Project For A New American Century called for a "New Pearl Harbor" in order to accomplish its goals, do you think that 9/11 was an inside job created in order for them to have the means to implement their plan.

Posted by: Anthony Bruno | April 26, 2007 12:00 AM

I really don't blame the media as much as some I think. Intelligent, concerned citizens could have seen the whitewash that was being given us by the white house in 2002 and 2003. I did. It is my opinion that his country as a whole was hellbent for going to war. What's amazing now to me now is how the greatest country in the world is still unable to find Obama Bin Laden and the press still doesn't seem to be pressuring the White House to really do something about it. But it wouldn't surprise me at all to see something actually accomplished in that regard prior to the upcoming election just to make republicans and conservatives look good. p.s. the interview with Phil Donahue was the most unnerving. What his bosses were telling him and what happened in the end is just so wrong and unpatriotic. I am so glad I do have or watch cable television.

Posted by: Dave | April 25, 2007 11:59 PM

Everyone, please hit refresh often. Do you see the comments flooding in? Have you already donated your $$? Enjoy this 'Citizen surge.' Moyers-Buying the War should be required viewing for EVERY US Citizen.

Posted by: Dan Nyberg | April 25, 2007 11:59 PM

We knew that everything the bushies were saying about IRAQ was a lie. We knew it but we had no voice. The bushies are still lying - every day. We are screaming at the top of our lungs at this very minute. Is anyone listening? Time to tell the bush cabal to SD&SU! Impeach them all now. I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK! P.S. "Buying the War" was very good but very depressing. It brought back many bad memories.

Posted by: Texan4Real | April 25, 2007 11:59 PM

What a lovely program. Thank you! I have two questions for Jonathan Landay and Warren Strobel: First, in your assessment how far gone is the state of our media services toward less costly, emetic, re-reporting and away from real investigative journalists? When did it begin and when did this trend really pick up steam? Second, I'm sorry to put you on the spot, but I really want to know your opinion as to what are the most reliable news sources currently available to consumers? By that I mean news sources that are actively supporting large numbers of journalists doing front line investigation and fact confirmation of public stories? Finally, if you ever find yourself in doubt, perhaps it will help to know that it means everthing to us that you're upholding our finest democratic tradition of bringing the simple truth as it can best be told to the people so they can vote with an informed decision. Thank you.

Posted by: Daniel Kaplan | April 25, 2007 11:59 PM

Okay - The question is "What Now?" How can the damage be reversed - in this country, let alone the rest of the world and Iraq. Great broadcast although this was obvious to some of us from the beginning.

Posted by: Jean Sheffer | April 25, 2007 11:59 PM

In light of what we now know about the pre-war deceptions, why is there not more journalistic work on the real reasons for going to war with Iraq? It seems as though people are just satisfied with the "now that we're there what do we do" instead of getting to the bottom of why the white house initiated the war.

Posted by: Virginia | April 25, 2007 11:59 PM

What a lovely program. Thank you! I have two questions for Jonathan Landay and Warren Strobel: First, in your assessment how far gone is the state of our media services toward less costly, emetic, re-reporting and away from real investigative journalists? When did it begin and when did this trend really pick up steam? Second, I'm sorry to put you on the spot, but I really want to know your opinion as to what are the most reliable news sources currently available to consumers? By that I mean news sources that are actively supporting large numbers of journalists doing front line investigation and fact confirmation of public stories? Finally, if you ever find yourself in doubt, perhaps it will help to know that it means everthing to us that you're upholding our finest democratic tradition of bringing the simple truth as it can best be told to the people so they can vote with an informed decision. Thank you.

Posted by: Daniel Kaplan | April 25, 2007 11:59 PM

What a lovely program. Thank you! I have two questions for Jonathan Landay and Warren Strobel: First, in your assessment how far gone is the state of our media services toward less costly, emetic, re-reporting and away from real investigative journalists? When did it begin and when did this trend really pick up steam? Second, I'm sorry to put you on the spot, but I really want to know your opinion as to what are the most reliable news sources currently available to consumers? By that I mean news sources that are actively supporting large numbers of journalists doing front line investigation and fact confirmation of public stories? Finally, if you ever find yourself in doubt, perhaps it will help to know that it means everthing to us that you're upholding our finest democratic tradition of bringing the simple truth as it can best be told to the people so they can vote with an informed decision. Thank you.

Posted by: Daniel Kaplan | April 25, 2007 11:59 PM

What a lovely program. Thank you! I have two questions for Jonathan Landay and Warren Strobel: First, in your assessment how far gone is the state of our media services toward less costly, emetic, re-reporting and away from real investigative journalists? When did it begin and when did this trend really pick up steam? Second, I'm sorry to put you on the spot, but I really want to know your opinion as to what are the most reliable news sources currently available to consumers? By that I mean news sources that are actively supporting large numbers of journalists doing front line investigation and fact confirmation of public stories? Finally, if you ever find yourself in doubt, perhaps it will help to know that it means everthing to us that you're upholding our finest democratic tradition of bringing the simple truth as it can best be told to the people so they can vote with an informed decision. Thank you.

Posted by: Daniel Kaplan | April 25, 2007 11:59 PM

thank you, thank you, thank you, Mr. Moyers. What I don't understand is that at least 30% of the US population (hard core Dems) were seething throughout the lying lead up to Bush's war, and the media did nothing to tap into that totally legitimate opposition.

Posted by: Doug Peterson | April 25, 2007 11:59 PM

Gentlemen, I first want to applaud your efforts and steadfast resolution in not falling into line like most mainstream news affiliations. My question for you is this - in a time where we as a nation are beginning to reflect more with our minds than emotion, is there hope for the media to re-establish itself was a force for holding politicians culpable for their indiscretions and lack of foresight, or will the political machinist media continue to run rampant feeding the minds of ill-informed citizens who have bought into their rhetoric from the start? Thank you again for staying true to what every journalist should hold sacred - their skepticism. Jim

Posted by: James | April 25, 2007 11:58 PM

I appreciated todays program a lot, though I did not learn anything new about the administration. As it was said, informatino is out there for one who looks for it. There is an exception. One of the burning questions of the day for many of us is the truth about 9/11 and what exactly happened. What hard and thorough investigative reporting has been done on all the important questions? If it has not, why not? As an example, let me mention one not so small matter: As a former metallurgical engineer who worked years ago doing failure analysis, I saw how a sequence of events can often be recreated telling much about what happened in a failure involving metal much like forensic evidence can recreate what happened in a homicide. One can only look at the full analysis of all parts of a space shuttle or an aircraft after an accident. No parts are left untested. Yet, the steel in the trade center buidlings was not tested. Why not? It seems incredible that full scientific analysis was not done on all materials from the 9/11 attacks, as well as on how what happened could be physically demonstrated with cogent analysis...

Posted by: Larry Howe-Kerr | April 25, 2007 11:57 PM

Okay - The question is "What Now?" How can the damage be reversed - in this country, let alone the rest of the world and Iraq. Great broadcast although this was obvious to some of us from the beginning.

Posted by: Jean Sheffer | April 25, 2007 11:57 PM

Thanks to McClatchy management and its reporters, Jonathan Landay and Warren Strobel. 80% of the information in "Buying the War" was familiar to me 3-1/2 years ago. If I could discern that Bush, Cheney, and Powell were deceitful about Iraqi WMDs, then I'm sure that the editors and writers of the TV networks and major newspapers were also able to discern those lies. McClatchy has earned something that its competitors have lost and may never regain . . . credibility. The news media, that choose to collaborate with the Bush administration's lies about Iraqi WMDs, are as corrupt as the German newspapers that reported that Poland invaded Germany in 1939, which was the propaganda that the Nazi administration dictated to the German people through the corrupt newspaper publishers. Each and every opponent of the war has an obligation to discuss the truth about the Iraq war. Discuss the facts with friends, relatives, and colleagues. In the light of reasoned factual discussion, we reveal the Bush admistration to be pathological liars. Bush sympathizers may be ready to forgive some of the regime's faults, but it 's hard for anybody to trust a leader who consistently delivers lies to the public. If...

Posted by: EUGENE MILLER | April 25, 2007 11:57 PM

Everyone, please hit refresh often. Do you see the comments flooding in? Have you already donated your $$? Enjoy this 'Citizen surge.' Moyers-Buying the War should be required viewing for EVERY US Citizen.

Posted by: Dan Nyberg | April 25, 2007 11:57 PM

William Krystol was asked to be in an interview and declined? Small wonder. Take a look at the role of the Project for the New American Century (PNAC), which includes William Krystol, George Bush, Karl Rove, Richard Perle, Scooter Libby, Donald Rumsfeld, and Richard Armitage as members. PNAC sent a letter to Bill Clinton urging him to attack Iraq. Most of the people who caused the U.S. to get preemptive attack are members of the PNAC. Krystol is not unbiased; he has been actively involved. The role of this group and other right wing conservative "think tanks" should be investigated, IMHO. Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PNAC

Posted by: Bill | April 25, 2007 11:57 PM

Thank you for the great journalism, it's inspiring! Question: What is the next major administration lie you think is important for reporters to debunk?

Posted by: Charles Robinson | April 25, 2007 11:57 PM

On the subject of motive, I believe Dick and the Current Occupant got just what they wanted. No mistakes from their perspective. Halliberton was making a killing (no pun intended) and continues to do so. That was, after all, their goal and still is. Why else the arrogant refusal to listen to the people's demand to withdraw from Iraq now? Why do you not discuss that? Anyone looking into that angl.

Posted by: David Whitehead | April 25, 2007 11:56 PM

Those of us most profoundly affected by this war are also the most grateful to those of you who tried to see beyond the rhetoric and kept printing stories, albeit deep inside newspapers, that at least gave us some reason to continue our skepticism. As the politicians sling phrases like "support the troops" and really mean "support our agenda", we sometimes wonder if there is anyone listening to us. As our husbands and brothers and sons and yes, even mothers and daughters, go back again and again and each time come back angrier and more disillusioned, we wait for someone to tell the story that we can't. We can't tell them "you can't do this", because they must, and we can't say "we can't do this" because we have to bring them home as whole as they can be. Walter Reed is the tip of the iceberg for the betrayal of our troops, someone needs to follow up on the lack of mental health care for returning soldiers, on the destruction of families and marriages by the toll of repeated deployments, on deaths due to insufficient armor and equipment. The military is crumbling from the inside out, but those of...

Posted by: Val H. | April 25, 2007 11:56 PM

Honored Gentlemen: As a former journalist who has moved on to other professions, I want to thank you for your steadfast adherence to the best values of journalism. I worked my way through law school as a reporter and copy editor at two newspapers and I know the difficulty of doing the job right. I can't imagine how much more difficult it was for you in the frenzy of pre-war Washington, but I know you are fine men for doing your job so well. Thank you for all you have done. And one other thing. I never believed one word that came out of that lying administration in the runup to war. That journalistic skepticism dies hard, especially for someone like me who was trained during the Vietnam War. So whatever you hear, there are people out here in the hinterlands of Montana who know and will always want to know what is true. Best wishes always, Mary W.

Posted by: Mary W. | April 25, 2007 11:56 PM

Thank you for bringing sanity back to Journalism by asking the right questions. Perhaps we should also be asking ourselves why it was so easy to create the mass hysteria around the Iraqi War? Why is fear the dominant emotion in our lives? How can we ever gain the trust of our leaders and media sources? What is truth and what is propaganda? Are we as readers, listeners, and viewers part of the solution or problem? You have opened a dialogue of many more questions. www.thezonker.blogspot.com

Posted by: James Cole | April 25, 2007 11:55 PM

You are both true patriots, for patriots never fear to tell the truth. As one who, for some reason, saw the deception and understood the dangers of going into Iraq, I could not understand why the mainstream media sidestepped the obvious. But, it should not be surprising when the conservative media is actively engaged in a shout-down of reality. Our media now is made of opinions and not facts, and we are the poorer for it. Who is there left that will report on the rise of fascism in this country that is now underway? Those who say that is alarmist also believed the invasion of Iraq was because of 9/11. I'm sure that Edward Morrow and Ed Friendly are spinning in their graves. They warned us what would happen when the news was a profit center. Now, as men and women die in Iraq, we are watching stories about Alec Baldwin and Rosie O'Donnell on the evening reports. Do you honestly see any real journalism existing in another 10 years?

Posted by: John P. | April 25, 2007 11:55 PM

Good show Bill et all. One question to the Knight Ridder folks. Why did everyone "go along" and not (w/a few exceptions) speak truth to power. Is not the media simply reflection the shift in the country's values away from standing up for and speaking out for what you believe in, even at the expense of your job ? Where has the courage gone, particularly in current journalism ? Where are the Ben Bradlee's of today ? Have the journalist gotten so swept up in greed and consumerism that they are no longer willing to risk their material possessions for the truth ? Is it truly as Pogo said, we (the journalists) have met the enemy and it is us ?

Posted by: Steve Crockett | April 25, 2007 11:55 PM

So, did anyone watch American Idol tonight?

Posted by: Bill Alexy | April 25, 2007 11:55 PM

Thank you for bringing sanity back to Journalism by asking the right questions. Perhaps we should also be asking ourselves why it was so easy to create the mass hysteria around the Iraqi War? Why is fear the dominant emotion in our lives? How can we ever gain the trust of our leaders and media sources? What is truth and what is propaganda? Are we as readers, listeners, and viewers part of the solution or problem? You have opened a dialogue of many more questions. www.thezonker.blogspot.com

Posted by: James Cole | April 25, 2007 11:55 PM

I really don't blame the media as much as some I think. Intelligent, concerned citizens could have seen the whitewash that was being given us by the white house in 2002 and 2003. I did. It is my opinion that his country as a whole was hellbent for going to war. What's amazing now to me now is how the greatest country in the world is still unable to find Obama Bin Laden and the press still doesn't seem to be pressuring the White House to really do something about it. But it wouldn't surprise me at all to see something actually accomplished in that regard prior to the upcoming election just to make republicans and conservatives look good. p.s. the interview with Phil Donahue was the most unnerving. What his bosses were telling him and what happened in the end is just so wrong and unpatriotic. I am so glad I do have or watch cable television.

Posted by: Dave | April 25, 2007 11:54 PM

Thank you for doing your job! TTHHAANNKK YYOOUU!!!!

Posted by: Paula Bargiel | April 25, 2007 11:54 PM

As a seond grade teacher, I try to teach my students to stand up and defend what they believe in even if the entire class including me as the teaching may disagree with their opinion. Your show has proven to me that this concept is worthy of my instructional time. This was a clear example of how people get bullied under peer pressure if they are not strong enough to stand up in the face of adversity.the show was great and inspiring.

Posted by: jackie brown | April 25, 2007 11:54 PM

I think that we need to start having a true democracy in the USA. The powerful media own by rich individuals are really controlling everything is said on the TV. There is a political agenda that these rich people want to keep, and they forget about keeping the true democracy in the country. Democracy comes with freedom of telling ideas and having officials from the government saying the true to the public. We talk about democracy here, but we need to learn a lot more from Europe, where there is a lot more democracy and true in the media that in here.

Posted by: Jim | April 25, 2007 11:54 PM

Thank you for bringing sanity back to Journalism by asking the right questions. Perhaps we should also be asking ourselves why it was so easy to create the mass hysteria around the Iraqi War? Why is fear the dominant emotion in our lives? How can we ever gain the trust of our leaders and media sources? What is truth and what is propaganda? Are we as readers, listeners, and viewers part of the solution or problem? You have opened a dialogue of many more questions. www.thezonker.blogspot.com

Posted by: James Cole | April 25, 2007 11:54 PM

To Mssrs. Landray and Strobel: I just want to say thank you. I did follow your stories (as well as the weapons inspectors' reports that were, indeed, out there for everyone to see). I was, and still am, appalled at the lack of the most basic reporting skills exhibited by the rest of the mainstream press. I only wish you guys had been nominated for, and won, the Pulitzer. And to Mr. Moyers, thank you as well for giving us years of genuine reportage on important issues.

Posted by: Virginia | April 25, 2007 11:53 PM

Another poster has a question similar to mine... (see comment 12313 http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/blog/2007/04/chat_now_with_knight_ridder_re.html#comment-12313 ) Noticably absent from tonight's program was any commentary on the performance of PBS' flagship news program, The News Hour. I'd like to think that the American people can find hope by supporting public broadcasting, as Mr Moyers alluded to after tonight's program, but it has been my experience that The News Hour has also degenerated into a he said/he said opinion fest, relying on echoing of opinion rather than acting as, as Walter Pincus mentioned, a truth squad. How well did PBS and especially The News Hour perform during the selling of the war? Regards, Karl K. Chicago, IL

Posted by: Karl K. | April 25, 2007 11:53 PM

I hope to see more exposes. Thank you most sincerely for this program. How do we instill the desire to pursue truth in new journalists? Will you do a program on who benefited, and how? And what do we need to do to encourage the mainstream media to become responsible to the public?

Posted by: Margie Harris | April 25, 2007 11:53 PM

Dear Gentlemen: Thank you for your heroic work on behalf of truth. My 86-year-old father and I have just finished watching the program. My dad is a WWII veteran...a fighter pilot...a life-long Republican who has spent the last few years questioning the government of the country that he defended so fiercely years ago. After the show finished, his comment was "Bill Moyers should probably watch his back." My question is this: Have any of you suffered any personal or professional attacks because of your reporting? I wish you both the best and thank you, personally and on behalf of many others who feel as I do, for your bravery and perseverance in the face of those "hurricane winds" mentioned in Bill Moyers' program. All the best, Margaret

Posted by: Margaret W | April 25, 2007 11:53 PM

apr 25 Your show tonight was riveting and I couldn't leave it. I suddenly understand why George Bush will not let go of this war! He, Cheney, Rumsfeld,and Rice should be tried for war crimes against their own people and also the Iraqis. My son went there for 14 months and I searched the media every day, looking for something that would ring true and I found it tonight on your show. It's 2007 and it suddenly seems like 1984 is here. Great thanks to your reporters who still have the nerve to be truth seekers.

Posted by: Kay Abbott | April 25, 2007 11:53 PM

The show was frightening. Those who were not fooled were marginalized. Those who could not be pushed to the margins were fired. In the last ten seconds of the show when I heard that those who carried the administration's water are working at what I assume are good jobs and continue to be "darlings" in the talk show and lecture circuits. I was appalled. They and their bosses are in denial of what they wrought, which suggests to me that they were complicit in the lies and deception all along. Why else would they refuse to condemn those who promulgated those lies? If we cannot learn from the current debacle, it will certainly happen again. Dennis Kucinich has introduced “House Resolution 333 to impeach V.P. Cheney. Support him in this fight. This man shows courage that is lacking elseware in Congress. Show your support for him by calling your congressional representative and asking they co-sponsor his resolution. Click for a video clip of his press conference.

Posted by: Philip Lange | April 25, 2007 11:53 PM

When will the two of you be on Meet the Press? Tim Russert owes it to his audience to have some credible reporters.

Posted by: Elsie Madsen | April 25, 2007 11:52 PM

Great work gentlemen! In my view, tonight's program highlighted two key problems with the media in the United States: First, journalists must be "objective," which means that facts are not the issue; instead, a "he-said she-said" presentation is the most important issue, and facts are of secondary importance. Second, "pundits" now dominate opinion-making, and lead the way with their so-called expertise. What can be done to change this?

Posted by: Eric D. | April 25, 2007 11:52 PM

At this point, we should go deeper in the intellectualizing of our awakening concerning the war. If the Bush administration would be willing to falslify data and lie about conditions in Iraq; in order to convince the misinformed american citizenry go to war: is it also feasible, that they planned and carried out the attacks of september 11, 2001?

Posted by: James | April 25, 2007 11:52 PM

Great reporting. It is good to know we still have reporters that do their job unlike FOX News. I still think the Iraq war was about the current Bush wanting to kill Saddam because Saddam wanted to kill his daddy and about the oil. Do you think this could be a reason for the Iraq war? Remember the current Bush did make a few statements about Saddam wanting to kill his daddy.

Posted by: Lee | April 25, 2007 11:52 PM

This is the only place in broadcast journalism where we were going to see this truth. Spectacular show...please repeat it. I feel like crying. How can this administration be punished for their criminal deceit, the disaster they were determined to initiate, and the lives of 3000 dead young Americans which they wasted without mercy?

Posted by: John Camerlo | April 25, 2007 11:52 PM

Excellent! But what a saddness we have lived though. How do we know that the we are getting more critical reporting on the effect of the troop escalation now underway? Is there more critical reporting underway now?

Posted by: Lillia | April 25, 2007 11:52 PM

I applaud Knight Ridder and will do everything I can to get my hands on your newspapers. I live in Michigan. Thank you to both of you Johnathan and Warren for not forsaking the reporting of the TRUTH and questioning the TRUTH of the Administration and other followers of the propaganda. I have believed from the beginning the facts were not there to justify a war and premptive war on top of that. I got really tired of the administration verbally, politically attacking anyone who was against their view of this coming action as unpatriotic. I believe they have been most unpatriotic by invading a country without appropriate cause and world support. He is breaking this country financially with this war. Thank you again for being those small voices of reason. Perhaps you have inspired young journalists to do the kind of legwork you did to uncover the truth. God Bless you both and America, what is left of her.

Posted by: Melissa McNeil | April 25, 2007 11:51 PM

Thanks for your report. What a shame so many journalists have become pawns for politicians. Glad there are still some out there beating the bushes! It was horrifying to see how many news managers are more beholden to the bottom line than to reporting the truth.

Posted by: penny | April 25, 2007 11:51 PM

Whether it's a war in Iraq or a homicide down the street the news approach is the same. Reporters, producers, editors and executives have all come to rely on press releases instead of pressing for answers. Because it's easier to group think. These days it's not about journalism, it's all about maximizing eyeballs and minimizing expenses. Digging requires time, effort and money. But today media owners are just like everyone else... impatient, unwilling and cheap. Hal Lamb Tampa, FL 970wfla.com/pages/hallamb.html

Posted by: Hal Lamb | April 25, 2007 11:51 PM

Thank you Bill Moyers & PBS, We should all check out the mandate of organizations outside the government that influence our domestic and foreign policies such as " The American Enterprise Institute", " Heritage Foundation" and " The Project for the New American Century" They can all be googled. These are the organizations that are wagging the dog - in answer to a previous comment.

Posted by: Nancy Hahn | April 25, 2007 11:51 PM

When will you tell the truth about what really happened on 9/11?

Posted by: Kat | April 25, 2007 11:51 PM

"Mr. Landay, Mr. Strobel, thank you for the great journalism. What is the next major administration lie you think is important for reporters to debunk?"

Posted by: Chuck Robinson | April 25, 2007 11:51 PM

Okay - The question is "What Now?" How can the damage be reversed - in this country, let alone the rest of the world and Iraq. Great broadcast although this was obvious to some of us from the beginning.

Posted by: Jean Sheffer | April 25, 2007 11:51 PM

Great reporting. It is good to know we still have reporters that do their job unlike FOX News. I still think the Iraq war was about the current Bush wanting to kill Saddam because Saddam wanted to kill his daddy and about the oil. Do you think this could be a reason for the Iraq war? Remember the current Bush did make a few statements about Saddam wanting to kill his daddy.

Posted by: Lee | April 25, 2007 11:51 PM

Bill Moyers program presented was extremely cogent. I found many of the points you mentioned in the program to be proactive and insightful. I was wondering, given the number of homes Saddam owned, why did you not believe that he would hide WMD under one of his residences? I am also a student journalist at Washington College in Chestertown, Maryland and I would appreciate any input or assistance breaking into the increasingly completive field of print journalism. Best, Rory Carlin

Posted by: Rory Carlin | April 25, 2007 11:51 PM

One of the most important points made in the entirety of the piece is how presenting one side plus the other side does NOT equate to presenting the facts. You reporters who stick with the Sgt. Friday routine ("just the facts, ma'am")should be instructing the fair/balanced crowd how it's done.

Posted by: C_Listensprechen | April 25, 2007 11:50 PM

Thank you for your fearlessness. Thank you, too, for seeking information and for saying how starkly bereft of garment the emperor is! On every front--politics, education, science, religion, trade, immigration, civil rights, national security--this administration has thwarted the pursuit of knowledge and the exercise of constructive discourse. Without these endeavors, our chances of finding a better way to live together are significantly diminished. Keep speaking out; keep questioning. Questions don't hurt--silence does.

Posted by: Jane Kirschman | April 25, 2007 11:50 PM

Gentlemen, I first want to applaud your efforts and steadfast resolution in not falling into line like most mainstream news affiliations. My question for you is this - in a time where we as a nation are beginning to reflect more with our minds than emotion, is there hope for the media to re-establish itself was a force for holding politicians culpable for their indiscretions and lack of foresight, or will the political machinist media continue to run rampant feeding the minds of ill-informed citizens who have bought into their rhetoric from the start? Thank you again for staying true to what every journalist should hold sacred - their skepticism. Jim

Posted by: James | April 25, 2007 11:50 PM

I would be interested to know what part, if any, Henry Kissinger played in this fiasco. This story shows the problem of having a centrally controlled media, with an agenda, that can put pressure on independent journalists to "tow the line" or effectively muzzle others; as was the case with the Knight Ridder journalists. We are spoonfed information by the media in such a way that the public does not get enough of the facts to come to any conclusion other than the one "they" want us to.

Posted by: Jim | April 25, 2007 11:50 PM

This was a great piece of journalism. Now that all of this is out in the open, what happens next? From what I can see, there is no way to win this war. The ranks of the terrorists this war was intended to defeat grow stronger every day the war continues....

Posted by: Bruce H | April 25, 2007 11:50 PM

Even now, when this administration has proven time and again to be so consistently wrong, the media continues to fail its basic job requirements, reporting the facts, I am left wondering if I am the one who is wrong and am seeing conspiracies where there are none. If it were not for reporters like yourselves, who remained loyal to the American people in the face of real adversity, we would not be where we are now, trying to find a way out. I don't know how you did it for so long, and I can't imagine how much criticism you and others might have taken these past few years, but thank you for all your hard work.

Posted by: Sandra | April 25, 2007 11:49 PM

Why has there been almost no coverage on: what a rip off of the Iraqis the Hydrocarbon Law is and who in our government is insisting upon it and why; the harm being done to civilians and military by our use of depleted uranium in our weapons/ Thanks.

Posted by: Laura Bramlette | April 25, 2007 11:49 PM

so why did the president and his people want to go to war so badly(quickly)was it for oil?or some oter reason.seems like many people have gotten tremendously rich from this war.surely they did not believe their own lies.so why go to war with out any real hard edvidence.seems to be many theories on this matter.why??

Posted by: paul bklyn | April 25, 2007 11:49 PM

Oustanding! Great program! Thanks for shining the light on an otherwise dark period in the history of this country. Great reporting! Congratulations to the Knight Ridder folks for not "drinking the Kook Aid"! Renews my faith in Public Broadcasting.

Posted by: B Cotton | April 25, 2007 11:48 PM

PBS used to be a reliable source for unbiased balanced news and information. This report was undoubtedly the biggest bunch of garbage I have ever had the displeasure to view. It is a shame that PBS recieves taxpayer funding for producing such one-sided crap. Never again will I look to this network for reliable information. It is pitiful that George Sorros has bought and paid for all those involved in this project.

Posted by: RC | April 25, 2007 11:48 PM

From the San Antonio Current (alt-weekly): "Mr. Landay, Mr. Strobel, thank you for the great journalism. What is the next major administration lie you think is important for citizens to debunk?"

Posted by: Chuck Robinson | April 25, 2007 11:48 PM

Thank You so much for this television show. I have missed Mr. Moyers since he left NOW on PBS a few years ago. I always thought he did a wonderful job as a reporter, actually interviewing sources, checking sources and digging deep into the story to try and find the truth. I wish every American (especially those who claim the "liberal media" is anti-american and against the whitehouse. My God, the so called "liberal media" enabled Bush to sell his war. It's really too bad this show will not inspire the media to start reporting the news again. It's to the point where "journalists" are laughable. FOX news must have spent an entire month on the Anna Nicole Smith death while we have soldiers dying in a war that has no end in site and has done more harm than good. My congatulations go out to the Bush team in creating a safe haven for terrorists once we finally do leave Iraq. Good to see you back Mr Moyers. We need you and others like you now more than ever. Carl Gast

Posted by: Carl Gast III | April 25, 2007 11:48 PM

Great job. Moyers, Landay, Stroebel, the Nation, Truthout, ICH, Common Dreams, and others are carrying the banner. How can I get involved with you in developing an awareness generating strategic plan that focuses on showing how the lies and laziness on the part of the administration, congress, and jounalists leading up to the war are in direct opposition to the spirit of our constitution and the check and balance notion of our government? This is the only angle that will have an impact on a large segment of the population.And if we repeat it over, and over, and over..... Thanks, Eric

Posted by: Eric Robinson | April 25, 2007 11:48 PM

Dear Jonathan and Warren, Thank you for not doubting yourselves and for daring to speak the truth even though everyone else in "big" media was eating out of the mis-administration's hand in the run-up to this senseless war. You deserve the Pulitzer prize for your reporting. Thanks to you, Bill Moyers, and PBS for tonight's program. I am delighted, as someone who has always opposed this war, that the story of how "big" media was used as a propaganda tool is finally being told. I only hope the media and the American people will learn the many lessons of this horrific war so that nothing like it happens in the future. The Bush mis-administration's deception and its consequences should be grounds for impeaching and convicting Bush and Cheney. They are both guilty of crimes against humanity and I hope they are made to bear the consequences of what they have done. I know this will probably not happen, but it is what they deserve.

Posted by: Denise K. | April 25, 2007 11:48 PM

Thank you for bringing sanity back to Journalism by asking the right questions. Perhaps we should also be asking ourselves why it was so easy to create the mass hysteria around the Iraqi War? Why is fear the dominant emotion in our lives? How can we ever gain the trust of our leaders and media sources? What is truth and what is propaganda? Are we as readers, listeners, and viewers part of the solution or problem? You have opened a dialogue of many more questions. www.thezonker.blogspot.com

Posted by: James Cole | April 25, 2007 11:48 PM

If we know that we were lied to in the run up to war, did the two Knoight Ridder discover why we are there? What was the motive for this elaborate Machiavellian plot to decive the American peiople? If we arent there to rid Iraq of a brutal dictator, and we knew he didnt have WMDs, just what was the reason that we ARE there? Was it solely a full employment act for Haliburton or are there other reasons that were discovered as a result of your investigations?

Posted by: Bibi Gaston | April 25, 2007 11:48 PM

Hello, I am currently writing a paper for seminary class and would like to know if you found any information linking the religious right in the U.S. with the decision to invade Iraq? It was so nice to see some sanity in your reporting of the post 9/11 period of intense nationalist madness. This is a sad period in our country's history, and although we can't undo the damage that has been done, we must move forward by doing the right thing, regardless of how painful that might be. Best regards, Greg S

Posted by: Greg S. | April 25, 2007 11:48 PM

Many people outside the Beltway were skeptical about the WMDs because it was obvious they were a pretext for the invasion of Iraq. The real reason for the invasion had been calculated by the neo-cons when they took the plan to to Clinton and Israel. Even after no WMDs were found, the neo-cons, said, "So what? The real reason for the invasion was to change the Middle East. What was alarming was that so many pundits, and columnists played the game about intelligence on WMDs instead of using elementary political skepticism. The war was already planned. Finding an plausible excuse in WMDs was clearly an excercise in mollifying public opinion. The undertold story is how the neo-cons brought this off.

Posted by: Michael Berryhill | April 25, 2007 11:47 PM

Shame on the Times and shame on the Post. I'll get my "news" somewhere else in the future. I don't want revenge. I would like accountability for the lies that have killed 3,000+ of our boys and girls, tens of thousands of Iraquis and made the world infinitely less safe for all of us. Do they just get away with it? They crucified Clinton with scurilous, vitriolic attacks for a harmless affair that pales in comparison with the death and destruction wrought on the Iraquis, our children and their families. Will there be no accountability on this Earth for these horrendous, boldface, manipulative lies and fabrications? It looks like the media has no stomach for that fight either.

Posted by: Regis | April 25, 2007 11:47 PM

In a college PR class, one of the topics was a law prohibiting the federal government from hiring PR firms. Is that law still on the books? If so, isn't the administration's presentation of its justification for war in violation of, if not the letter, certainly the spirit of the law?

Posted by: a citizen | April 25, 2007 11:47 PM

Thank you for bringing sanity back to Journalism by asking the right questions. Perhaps we should also be asking ourselves why it was so easy to create the mass hysteria around the Iraqi War? Why is fear the dominant emotion in our lives? How can we ever gain the trust of our leaders and media sources? What is truth and what is propaganda? Are we as readers, listeners, and viewers part of the solution or problem? You have opened a dialogue of many more questions. www.thezonker.blogspot.com

Posted by: James Cole | April 25, 2007 11:47 PM

I am a Foreign in this country (from Brazil) and getting through this war has been very painful. I have never believed in this adminstration's case for the war against Iraq. First WMD and then free the Iraq people! The few articles I could find that raised questions against the war always seemed founded in actual facts. I thank you for doing objective journalism. I do believe the American press has blood in its hand for its courdice and for being part of the Administration's propaganda machine. Regina Sant'Anna

Posted by: Regina Sant'Anna | April 25, 2007 11:47 PM

Great effort guys. Sadly too few felt a need to question anything these charlatans were peddling. Please, for the love of our country, continue these pursuits. This entire administaration stinks from the top down. Help us see our way to a fairer country.

Posted by: Bill McCarthy | April 25, 2007 11:47 PM

Many people outside the Beltway were skeptical about the WMDs because it was obvious they were a pretext for the invasion of Iraq. The real reason for the invasion had been calculated by the neo-cons when they took the plan to to Clinton and Israel. Even after no WMDs were found, the neo-cons, said, "So what? The real reason for the invasion was to change the Middle East. What was alarming was that so many pundits, and columnists played the game about intelligence on WMDs instead of using elementary political skepticism. The war was already planned. Finding an plausible excuse in WMDs was clearly an excercise in mollifying public opinion. The undertold story is how the neo-cons brought this off.

Posted by: Michael Berryhill | April 25, 2007 11:47 PM

Thank you for keeping your eyes and ears wide open and questioning the powers that be in order to get to the truth. You are keeping the precepts of democracy alive and well when it seemes almost everyone is out for thier own gain no matter what the cost. Thank You for Your Courage.

Posted by: Harriet Hiller | April 25, 2007 11:46 PM

Thank you for your superb reporting. It's tragic it was not more available at the time. A question on Iran . . . It is reported as indisputable fact that Iran must be enriching uranium for non-civilian purposes. Are there grounds for doubting this conventional wisdom?

Posted by: Adam Blackwell | April 25, 2007 11:46 PM

Nice job of reporting. It was refreshing to see some "reporters" squirm for a change. I would have liked to see some network CEOs made to squirm as well for their complicity in this war. I don't recall who said "War is good business", but the networks wanted it just as badly as any arms manufacturer. The first war in Iraq was good for the news business as well as a few careers. If it hadn't been for that war, Wolf Blitzer would be selling cars. Frankly, I think the media,particularly television, should bear the brunt of the blame for this war. They wanted it as much as the administration for the simple reason that it makes "good video". They weren't going to ask any hard questions that might screw that up.

Posted by: Stan M | April 25, 2007 11:46 PM

A key remark was that the decision to terminate Phil Donohue was a business decision. This applies as well to Walter Isaacson's memo to his editors and anchorpeople, cautioning them to don their patriotism badge (by working in the burning towers) if they were going to risk showing civilian casualties in Afghanistan. He mentioned how his competitors were wrapping themselves in the flag. Let's think through what it means that our free press is a free market enterprise. We should first get clear that networks, newsweeklies and dailies are not in either the news business or the entertainment business. They are in the brokering-of-attention business: news and entertainment are the bait with which they attract the eyes and ears of the audience -- the American people -- for delivery to advertisers. The rate they can charge for (say) a 15-second slot depends on what an outside party -- Nielson, for example -- verifies is the size and composition of the audience for the program associated with that slot. So if your audience-share drops, so does the income in your quarterly report to the SEC. Down go projected dividends. Since network execs, editors, anchor stars hold a fair amount of network...

Posted by: Lyman Baker | April 25, 2007 11:46 PM

I knew from day one the invasion was trumped up. The Culture of Coruption, Deceit, and Criminality includes, George W.(Baffoon)Bush, Dick (Black Heart) Cheney, Condoleezza Rice, Gonzales, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Pearle, Bill Kristol, Richard Armitage, Donald Rumsfeild It is my belief that the admistration was aware of if not complicitent in the 9/11 attack, as a was to press thier plans as outlined in Project for the New American Century. They have not vomited and epic number of lies, distortions, leaked information but also used the offices they hold to enrich fellow Republicians, friends, and associates. Almost everone in the Bush Adminstration has betrayed their Constitutional duty to work in the intrest of the People and the laws and ideas of the United States, in effect Treason against the Constitution. THey should be working for the People not corporate America. The Executive Branch is Enron on a governmental level. If the full extent were known they would be in prison here for years. But that would not undo the grave, perilous situation they have lead this country to. My solution to the war. Investigate them, Impeach them, Arrest them, send them to Iraq for crimes against humanity. The respect for...

Posted by: David Krueger | April 25, 2007 11:46 PM

As a former reporter for Knight Ridder, I, too, applaud the work of Landay and Strobel and Mr. Moyers. These are true patriots. My question, if you get to it, is this: In the context of the manipulations and lies of Watergate and the "offense" of lying about having "sex with that woman," why isn't this contrivance of facts and information that was used t lead us into war an impeachable offense? And as a final comment, I would just like to say that I am ashamed of my comrades of the Fourth Estate working in Washington, DC. By not doing your job and being brave in searching for and telling the truth, you let your nation down much more so than if you had dodged the draft or bombed our nation's capitol. The Bill Kristols and William Safires and Tim Russerts who vainly bought the lies and fell down so terribly at their jobs should be ashamed. And as for the rest of us who still aspire to be journalists, their failure in this country's greatest time of need will stain the integrity and trust of everything we do for a generation to come. And finally, I would just...

Posted by: James | April 25, 2007 11:46 PM

Welcome back Bill Moyers - "you've been a long time gone". You and the Knight Ridder reporters are filling a great void. Never in my 60+ years have I been so concerned about the basic foundation of America. How can the general public clean this mess up AND prevent it from happening again?

Posted by: JJ | April 25, 2007 11:46 PM

To the journalists at Knight Ridder: God bless you unsung saints of journalism. Although your newspapers were not read by many Americans leading up to the war, you can be assured that your service in the name of honest journalism is appreciated. To Bill Moyers, your show was enlightening, honest, transparent, and one of the best shows on the current state of the media in the US. This is a perfect example of what happens when the opposition is silenced and opposition leaders are diminished. Thank you for your service to America. Thank you for reporting this important story.

Posted by: D Lajoie | April 25, 2007 11:45 PM

I aplaud the media's self-evaluation tonight. However, I think you missed two important angles: first, that the inner circle had already decided to go to war before the media manipulation, which was an appropriate effort to terrorize Iraqi soldiers into surrender, not to persuade U.S. citizens; and second, that the inner circle might have informed and solicited the help of mainstream media's upper management. Did the elite media owners know and agree to help the inner circle? It's not a bizarre idea. Isn't it the interest of media owners to sell advertising space before distributing useful information? And if the inner circle had already made a decision, what information would have been truthfully useful?

Posted by: Paul Gordon | April 25, 2007 11:45 PM

On You tube there is an interesting talk by John Perkins(Confessions of an Economic Hit Man)who talks about how Saddam Hussein was originally a hit man for the CIA in Iraq who eventually came to power with US support. However, he was not co-operating with the "corporatocracy's" economic and trade demands and thus like many other heads of government who were not manipulatable (eg Torrijos in Panama) had to be gotten rid of. It seems obvious to me that the corporatocracy or military-industrial-complex evidenced a great deal of power and control over the media and the players in the drama called government. I think that it would be a very important journalistic feat to follow and report the money and manipulations behind the lies that pushed us to war. For example, who was behind the Niger Yellow Cake story. Who concocted it and planted it? Who was behind Henry Kissinger getting Bush to run for president. Who is behind Cheney, Perles, Crystal, Safire. According to Bush's first Secretary of the Treasury after getting elected, Bush's cabinet meeting focused on war in Iraq, even before 9/11. Who was behind the Patriot Act and how did it get written? It seemed to...

Posted by: Robert Rockwell | April 25, 2007 11:45 PM

Congratulations for breaking from the pack. Remembering the hubris in the fall of 2002, flush with "victory" in Afghanistan and belief in our superpower status is scary in retrospective. Had we been successful in Iraq, tonight's program could never have been aired, nor the many thoughtful books written. Sorry it has taken so many lives (Iraqi and US) for the public to come to its senses.

Posted by: Phyllis | April 25, 2007 11:45 PM

Guys, first I'd like to say, the long posts make it difficult for the rest of us to say or ask a question. Second, being only 21 yesterday, should I be concered about my future, and where do I start?

Posted by: Doug | April 25, 2007 11:45 PM

Great job. Moyers, Landay, Stroebel, the Nation, Truthout, ICH, Common Dreams, and others are carrying the banner. How can I get involved with you in developing an awareness generating strategic plan that focuses on showing how the lies and laziness on the part of the administration, congress, and jounalists leading up to the war are in direct opposition to the spirit of our constitution and the check and balance notion of our government? This is the only angle that will have an impact on a large segment of the population.And if we repeat it over, and over, and over..... Thanks, Eric

Posted by: Eric Robinson | April 25, 2007 11:45 PM

Thank you for your fearlessness. Thank you, too, for seeking information and for saying how starkly bereft of garment the emperor is! On every front--politics, education, science, religion, trade, immigration, civil rights, national security--this administration has thwarted the pursuit of knowledge and the exercise of constructive discourse. Without these endeavors, our chances of finding a better way to live together are significantly diminished. Keep speaking out; keep questioning. Questions don't hurt--silence does.

Posted by: Jane Kirschman | April 25, 2007 11:45 PM

Many people outside the Beltway were skeptical about the WMDs because it was obvious they were a pretext for the invasion of Iraq. The real reason for the invasion had been calculated by the neo-cons when they took the plan to to Clinton and Israel. Even after no WMDs were found, the neo-cons, said, "So what? The real reason for the invasion was to change the Middle East. What was alarming was that so many pundits, and columnists played the game about intelligence on WMDs instead of using elementary political skepticism. The war was already planned. Finding an plausible excuse in WMDs was clearly an excercise in mollifying public opinion. The undertold story is how the neo-cons brought this off.

Posted by: Michael Berryhill | April 25, 2007 11:44 PM

THANK YOU! BILL MOYERS! & Knight Ridder Crew and all of the rest of you out there who like me bothered to question the LIES and vitriolic crap that came in greater and greater quantities for SO MANY YEARS. ...... .... ....... I spent nearly all my free time since September in 2001 taping, recording, & watching/saving the news (ABC,CBS,NBC,CABLE NETWORKS)...documenting the so called march to war so that they could never LIE and say they hadn't done what (I watched in horror and sadness with my own eyes)that they did. I wrote, I called I begged, for representatives to stop it. But I was also afraid, afraid by how so many attacked the few of us that stood out protest. This FREE COUNTRY was free as long as we stood by and shut our "LIBERAL" or "FRUCKING COMMIE' UNPATRIOTIC MOUTHS!" I cried on the inside and out that our country could be so mislead, so fooled, so scared, so cowardly that we could make something like the presidency of Richard Nixon look like a shop lifting incident compared to the high crimes that NO ONE WILL EVER BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR! HISTORY IS SUPPOSED TO TEACH US WHAT NOT...

Posted by: Brian | April 25, 2007 11:44 PM

Excellent work! That was the best programme I have seen or read on the false legitimisation and lack of journalistic oversight leading to the Iraq war. It also highlights what I believe and think others feel is that the one person with the ability and influence to put the breaks on the whole episode buckled under the pressure. That one person was Colin Powell whom I was most disappointed in Sept 2002 and in 2007 as I think he should now be a vocal voice on the current quagmire we find ourselves and what he honestly knows and believes. There is a common thread in all of this, from the lead up to the war, its start, the continuing lack of competence in the wars strategic direction, through the current hearings held on the tragic circumstances surrounding CPL Pat Tillman's death. The further you get from Washington the closer you get to the truth! In an article written in the Economist magazine, April 19th on the Barack Obama’s level of experience: In summary Mr Obama has already shown that he possesses something more important than expertise—judgment. His prediction about the Iraq war back in 2002 has proved strikingly prescient. He...

Posted by: Bob | April 25, 2007 11:44 PM

There is no substitute in a democracy for a vigorous press in pursuit of the truth, and an informed citizenry is the only way to prevent tyranny. "The most effectual engines for [pacifying a nation] are the public papers... [A despotic] government always [keeps] a kind of standing army of newswriters who, without any regard to truth or to what should be like truth, [invent] and put into the papers whatever might serve the ministers. This suffices with the mass of the people who have no means of distinguishing the false from the true paragraphs of a newspaper." --Thomas Jefferson Thank you, Bill Moyers, for your courage in speaking the truth to power, for educating us, for getting as close to the source of the truth as is possible, and promoting that truth despite the wickedness and ignorance produced on the cheap by a partisan corporate press which would sooner sell a son or daughter for the cause of partisanship and war, than to save our democracy.

Posted by: Brian Denzer | April 25, 2007 11:44 PM

thanks for affirming what we knew all the time: we have been had by our own government. How sad so many of our fine sons and daughters died for lie. True Saddam was a bully. But where is Ben Ladden? That's who we should get!!!

Posted by: Asriel McLain | April 25, 2007 11:44 PM

Excellent! I'm glad my Raleigh News and Observer is McClatchy owned. My only disappointment is that the documentary did not include my ex-senator's hawkish speech with the other Democrats. John Edwards co-sponsored Leiberman's Iraq War Resolution. He was on the Senate Intelligence Committee. Do you have any idea why he would not follow the lead of his chairman Bob Graham, who obviously did some investigating, and vote No?

Posted by: Jane | April 25, 2007 11:44 PM

thanks for affirming what we knew all the time: we have been had by our own government. How sad so many of our fine sons and daughters died for lie. True Saddam was a bully. But where is Ben Ladden? That's who we should get!!!

Posted by: Asriel McLain | April 25, 2007 11:43 PM

I really don't blame the media as much as some I think. Intelligent, concerned citizens could have seen the whitewash that was being given us by the white house in 2002 and 2003. I did. It is my opinion that his country as a whole was hellbent for going to war. What's amazing now to me now is how the greatest country in the world is still unable to find Obama Bin Laden and the press still doesn't seem to be pressuring the White House to really do something about it. But it wouldn't surprise me at all to see something actually accomplished in that regard prior to the upcoming election just to make republicans and conservatives look good. p.s. the interview with Phil Donahue was the most unnerving. What his bosses were telling him and what happened in the end is just so unpatriotic.

Posted by: Dave | April 25, 2007 11:43 PM

Thank you for your courage and your tenacity. and thank god for those slender little columns of yours. i live in Kansas City and before the war started i was pouring over every online paper i could find to get the facts. amidst the confusion, i could see you guys were doing the work, filling in the blank spaces, actually thinking critically about the lines we were being fed and questioning it. and Bill Moyers, you're a gem. wow. thanks for looking for the truth. AB

Posted by: Andrea B | April 25, 2007 11:43 PM

I read a lot of Knight-Ridder stories posted on CommonDreams after I stopped watching TV news and later cancelled my newspaper and magazine subscriptions because they were not only parroting Bush propaganda but also suggesting that torture was an idea we shouldn't dismiss. Because of your excellent reporting, I knew that almost every piece of "intelligence" used to argue for war had been questioned. I didn't watch Powell's speech, but I read it, and I knew most of it was phony. I'm very grateful to you for giving me the straight story when there was so much BS flying around. I learned that when I saw the Knight-Ridder name, I'd get the results of hard journalistic work and sensible analysis. Thanks for being there.

Posted by: Linda Sleffel | April 25, 2007 11:43 PM

Great reporting! Of course, we all know the truth now. What is with the Republican party? They obviously beleive in blind leadership. This administration is really mean. The President's father is sickened by this administration. I've never seen such followership in my life. The Iraq war is a lie and nothing else. Actually, it's an opportunity to kill Americans. Dick Cheney did it all. He suckered the sucker president. Also, let the terrorists kill one another. Our troops should fall back, take the oil, guard the borders and go in every six weeks to bulldoze the carnage. Is there enough evidence to impeach both president and vice?

Posted by: Byron J | April 25, 2007 11:43 PM

Mr. Landay and Mr. Strobel, You must have felt "odd and alone" at times in your fact-finding; and your position reminds us all of the majority's selling their reporters' birthright of integrity for embedded and coddled privilege. Did any of the major reporters encourage you?

Posted by: roger k | April 25, 2007 11:43 PM

thanks for affirming what we knew all the time: we have been had by our own government. How sad so many of our fine sons and daughters died for lie. True Saddam was a bully. But where is Ben Ladden? That's who we should get!!!

Posted by: Asriel McLain | April 25, 2007 11:43 PM

All this leads to another question .... 1. Did Public Television and Public radio do much better ? 2. Did they provide equal attention to both side of the story ?

Posted by: Oai T. | April 25, 2007 11:43 PM

I was weeping through much of the program tonight-I marched with thousands of others during the lead up to the war asking that the administration "let the inspections work." I wrote letters, called my representatives, and as the Knight Ridder reporters found, was not only ignored, but called unpatriotic (and that's the printable version. I served my country as a VISTA volunteer, but those of us who have served in peace don't even make the papers. Thank you for the work you have done- below is a letter I wrote to the Washington Post which continues to shill for the Adminisration-today by making fun of Dennis Kucinich's hair while pretending to report on his call for the impeachment of Vice President Cheney. I am dismayed but relieved to know there are still a few real reporters in America. To the Editor, Tonight I watched Bill Moyers' "Buying the War" on PBS while he detailed for an hour the thousands of words printed by the Washington Post in support of the Bush administration's lies about the reasons to go to war in Iraq, in spite of evidence to the contrary which other papers, Knight Ridder among them asked the questions that...

Posted by: Susan Eleuterio | April 25, 2007 11:42 PM

I am so proud of your work ... and also pleased that the Kansas City Star is among the group to which you are affiliated. It is my hope that McClatchy is as supportive of your high journalistic ethics as was Knight Ridder! Thanks!!!! Thomas (Kansas City, MO)

Posted by: Thomas Palma | April 25, 2007 11:42 PM

The surface was scratched tonight with old news about the debacle that is Iraq. Repeated reference was made by journalists and critics to most of the important news and serious questions about the war,its run-up and prosecution being tucked away from the front pages of newspapers. Of course, such stories never even made it to the tv screen. So, here's the big question: Who is responsible for the obscure placement of such critical news, and/or its complete absence? These managerial decisions were made by editors and others perched at the top of the hierarchy. I know that Roger Ailes of Fox News declined to be interviewed, but who else,that is, editors, owners, board members of the Washington Post, New York Times, MSNBC, etc. was contacted? If so, were they unanimous in their refusal to appear on camera for BM Journal? What, if anything, did they say about their decisions to hide the news?

Posted by: Howard | April 25, 2007 11:42 PM

Reflecting on the PBS Bill Moyers special presentation: I can't believe just how depressing and grotesque the lies by the media ginning up to the invasion of Iraq. What ever happened to the foundations of journalism; to be skeptical of everything and to exercise always critical thinking to get at the truth. That even Dan Rather, a brilliant crackerjack journalist for decades, could be so duped by Sept 11 as to join the rally behind the false leader in the White House under the guise of 'patriotism' speaks volumes how far our country has faltered. Dissent is Patriotic. To question authority is requisite to democracy. I have no illusions. Too many in my country are too afraid of truth and are too squeamish to speak, write, and act on behalf of truth. This is a very bad sign of a serious decline in the intellectual base of this nation. This country needs to rebuild its character, starting with each of us. Thank you Bill Moyers and Dan Rathers for at least starting a dialogue on the press's role ginning up the invasion of Iraq...a war vehemently opposed by then Pope John Paul and the Archbishop of Canterbury, in addition to...

Posted by: Dianne Shatin | April 25, 2007 11:42 PM

2 + 2 = ? Knight Ridder is patting themselves' on the back for leadup to War Crime# 3 by Bush Admin. where you on War Crime# 1 American Reichstag. you know where the WTC 7 fell at pm. where the offical report has ZERO testimony from the LAST Man Out of the North Tower? ZERO pictures ZERO schematic drawings where you on War Crime# 2 the illegal bombing and invasion of Afghanistan?

Posted by: Patrick O'Hara | April 25, 2007 11:42 PM

Revisiting the snow job put upon the American public throught the clips shown tonight made me even sicker this time than they did the first time. Jonathan and Warren, thank you for your commitment to your craft and the responsibility that comes with it.

Posted by: skip hill | April 25, 2007 11:42 PM

It seems that about 10-20% of the public and media had strong reservations and grave doubts about this administration's designs, even in the face of 9/11...Why? I think it was because of the way they disregarded the sympathy and support the whole world was sending to us. When they declared war on evil as something in another culture and tried to put America on some kind of pedestal, it felt creepy. It worries me that so few of us resisted the pressures to get onboard. Thank you for reminding us that we were right about this administration and politicians and present day media. We are in dark times , but so dark that even a small light goes far. Bob Smith

Posted by: BOB SMITH | April 25, 2007 11:42 PM

From the San Antonio Current (alt-weekly): "Mr. Landay, Mr. Strobel, thank you for the great journalism. What is the next major administration lie you think is important for citizens to debunk?"

Posted by: Chuck Robinson | April 25, 2007 11:42 PM

Is is time to do for critical (non-partisan) journalism what the right wing has done over the past two decades... Start from scratch, in a true revolution? If the claims of Right and Left media biases are acurate, so be it; But neither serves America's interests. So how do we start fresh? How do we put teeth back into the fourth estate? Is there a third way closer to the true spirit of journalism, (whose service to critical inquiry can shame both FOX and CNN out of business, or into shape?)

Posted by: Chris | April 25, 2007 11:41 PM

Thank you for your courage. Who has stolen my beloved country? Why have we gone so wrong? After rpotesting against and then going to fight in the vietnam war I never would have believed that such a terrible thing would happen again to my country. I can only weep for those who lost their loved ones. Old white men are destroying my country. But, who controls them? Is all lost?

Posted by: Bill Laurent | April 25, 2007 11:41 PM

Excellent story Mr. Moyers! So good to have you back. My question is...has the media learned their lesson? Or are they really doing the same thing right now? Shannon

Posted by: Shannon Wyatt | April 25, 2007 11:41 PM

You guys are true patriots and a credit to your profession. You will go down in history as the Bernstein and Woodward of your generation. If we had more like you, and more agencies like Knight Ridder, perhaps our democracy wouldn't be as imperiled as it is today. Keep up the good work, and fight the good fight. Thank you for your courage, and for your passion for the truth. C&S White

Posted by: Chris & Stephanie White | April 25, 2007 11:41 PM

Thanks for your work. I actually read your reports at the time (here in the hinterland) and could not understand how your skepticism seemed to get no traction at all in the halls of government. What is stopping us now from the same rush to judgement in the issues of today? -Jerry

Posted by: Jerry Roeller | April 25, 2007 11:41 PM

Thanks for your efforts. what has become of the conspiracy theories surrounding 911? Has it ever been explained why the hole in the ground two weeks later was burning hotter than the temperature of burning jet fuel or why there was no plane wreckage found in front of the Pentagon or why the hole in the Pentagon was smaller that that which would have been created by a jet?

Posted by: Stephen | April 25, 2007 11:41 PM

Great job guys! During those years even an average Joe like myself could determine with a great deal of certainty that the Bush Administration was lying through their teeth. All it took was a an open mind and getting my news from a number of sources, as well as watching trends. I had many arguments with normally rational friends about the evidence for going to war and until I began to feel like a pariah. I caved and kept my "unpatriotic" views to myself. All the while, it felt like our democracy wash being flushed by unscrupulous political leadership, hell bent on deceiving me under the guise of patriotism,a mostly complacent press (with the exception of Fox, which has never shied from manipulation and remained true to their mission)and a few brave reporters. I am still of the opinion that we were and may still be deliberately lead to an altered state of our democracy. Tony W

Posted by: tony Wagner | April 25, 2007 11:40 PM

Excellent program. It should be required viewing for all journalism schools. I have a question, though, for the Knight Ridder reporters. I am too young to have been around for the build up to the Vietnam War, but my understanding is that those who opposed the war were considered unpatriotic at the time. Was the early reporting of that war similar to the early reporting of this one (minus the obvious technological advancements since that time)?

Posted by: K Sinclair | April 25, 2007 11:40 PM

I am so proud of your work ... and also pleased that the Kansas City Star is among the group to which you are affiliated. It is my hope that McClatchy is as supportive of your high journalistic ethics as was Knight Ridder! Thanks!!!! Thomas (Kansas City, MO)

Posted by: Thomas Palma | April 25, 2007 11:40 PM

Obviously, you as journalists did a great job, although I have to say that as someone who protested the war, and read the New York Times's Judith Miller very, very skeptically, and knew that the secular Baath party would be very hostile to Salafist terrorists, I (and many others) didn't need your reporting to reject the Bush case for war. However, isn't the real question then, why did the Bush administration want and plan and execute the war? 9-11 and WMD were public opinion pretexts for them. But, why did the Bush people, knowing as they must have that their pretexts were just that - go to war? What is this war for? What are the strategic goals of the war? Report on that. Aluminum tubes, Niger, Chalabi, all well and good, but behind the smoke and mirrors, what is it about? Report on that. Jim Miller

Posted by: Jim Miller | April 25, 2007 11:40 PM

An eye opener to many. A punch in the gut to a corrupt administration. Progressive, populist reporting is back and here to stay! In the Nations Heartland, Joe L.

Posted by: Joe | April 25, 2007 11:40 PM

Now that we are here, how can we beat a new drum; a drum of change? In other words, how can we turn this around? How can reporting change or reporters learn from this and move beyond criticism to take the next step in enlightening the American public about where we are today and where we need to be tomorrow? This broadcast is illuminating on how we got here, but my question is how do we move on? How does reporting change in regards to this particular past reporting?

Posted by: roger | April 25, 2007 11:40 PM

By definition, leaders of democracies worked collaboratively or multilaterally, and leaders who rule unilaterally were dicatators or monarchs. President Bush has been pushing that our government is trying to spread democracy, yet when he chose to go to war unilaterally, he was not acting by the same philosophy he espoused; he acted as a dictator, not as a democratic leader. I did not see one news report questioning the Bush administration as to why the President felt justified acting as a dictator on the world scene, while trying to "spread democracy?"

Posted by: Timothy | April 25, 2007 11:40 PM

The question is still out there, if the Bush Administration lied for its reasons to go to war in Iraq - WHAT WAS THE REAL REASON ?

Posted by: Michael | April 25, 2007 11:39 PM

Hey, did you see the attack of Bill Moyers by Bill O'Reilly yesterday! He's been wrong about the War and so has Fox ever since the President wanted to go to war. Every day you see spin by them. I feel that I love my country very much, but I have been against going to war from the start. I feel sorry for all those great Americans who have to fight, in a place that don't want us and now they are in the middle of a religious conflict. Now many family lives are going to be destroyed before we stop. You just can not win a religious war! God Bless America. Thanks, Greg

Posted by: Greg Brezicki | April 25, 2007 11:39 PM

I would be interested to know what part, if any, Henry Kissinger played in this fiasco. This story shows the problem of having a centrally controlled media, with an agenda, that can put pressure on independent journalists to "tow the line" or effectively muzzel others; as was the case with the Knight Ridder journalists.

Posted by: Jim | April 25, 2007 11:39 PM

There is no "winning" this war. We are already bankrupt, financially and morally. Segregate them into 3 areas and withdraw to the oil fields. Pay them based upon maintaing the peace and stop thinking about democracy as we know it.

Posted by: Toby S. | April 25, 2007 11:39 PM

Outstanding and thoughtful program! Please rebroadcast so I can study everything revealed once again. You should have mentioned Dan Rather's investigation of Bush's military record.

Posted by: brenda Kessler | April 25, 2007 11:39 PM

Thank-you for a voice of reason as so many responders have noted. I would simply wish the reporting would have turned the clock back a little further and investigate the incident of the 911 attacks, which have provided a "Pearl Harbor" type impetus for our foreign and domestic policies. Would Bill Moyers consider investigating the issues brought forth in the film "Loose Change version #2". I was sceptical at first but I fould it hard to refute many of the films main points. Could Bill Moyers give his journalistic read on such a film and coment on it via his new much anticipated show of PBS. Scott

Posted by: Scott | April 25, 2007 11:39 PM

I am a teacher, sometimes journalism teacher whose high school seniors are now reading 1984 by George Orwell. How do you feel about the idea that the War on Terror has the earmarks of the continuous war in 1984?

Posted by: Janet Chanay | April 25, 2007 11:39 PM

I was weeping through much of the program tonight-I marched with thousands of others during the lead up to the war asking that the administration "let the inspections work." I wrote letters, called my representatives, and as the Knight Ridder reporters found, was not only ignored, but called unpatriotic (and that's the printable version. I served my country as a VISTA volunteer, but those of us who have served in peace don't even make the papers. Thank you for the work you have done- below is a letter I wrote to the Washington Post which continues to shill for the Adminisration-today by making fun of Dennis Kucinich's hair while pretending to report on his call for the impeachment of Vice President Cheney. I am dismayed but relieved to know there are still a few real reporters in America. To the Editor, Tonight I watched Bill Moyers' "Buying the War" on PBS while he detailed for an hour the thousands of words printed by the Washington Post in support of the Bush administration's lies about the reasons to go to war in Iraq, in spite of evidence to the contrary which other papers, Knight Ridder among them asked the questions that...

Posted by: Susan Eleuterio | April 25, 2007 11:38 PM

Motive for the 'buying' and / or 'selling' of this invasion of Iraq is of great interest to me as well. I pose the question from a conflict sociological point of few - 'who's benefitting?' Substantiating that may be enlightening my hope is it would suggest some next steps that could bring about some opportunity for restorative justice and change of behavior. thank you for your hard and dedicated work - please, continue. Please do not let up - this military exercise must end sooner rather than later - but even more so - we can not be duped into this again. A phrase that keeps coming to mind is - it's just wrong. It's just plain wrong and the 'greatest country' with accessible, working democratic systems are not making it right! What is wrong with that picture? A great deal but we are blessed with teh gifts of erasers and new colors if we would just use them! peace, pd (pastor deb)

Posted by: Deb Conklin | April 25, 2007 11:38 PM

On C-Span, I watched Tenet testify in front of Congress and tell them that Iraq was not a danger but Iran was because of their nuclear program. Within that week, the White House had convinced Tenet that he misspoke and that Iraq was a threat to the U.S. Why did Congress accept this reversal by the head of the CIA so readily before war was declared on Iraq???

Posted by: Nancy Lorance | April 25, 2007 11:38 PM

I am a Foreign in this country (from Brazil) an getting through this war has been very painful. I have never believed in this adminstration's case for the war against Iraq. First WMD and then free the Iraq people. The few articles I could find that raised questions against the war always seemed founded in facts. I thank you for doing objective journalism. I do believe the American press has blood in its hand for it has been a big part of the Administration's propaganda machine. I also blame the press for the anti-American sentiment that is breeding abroad. Regina Sant'Anna

Posted by: Regina Sant'Anna | April 25, 2007 11:38 PM

Just had to say thank you. When this "war" started I said the press isn't going to save us this time. Too many threats or firings, examples made of fine reporters, actually had me frightened for our"messy" democracy. We have to speak out, against this fear doctrine, against this illegal war, against it's instigators and keep on speaking until we are heard. Loved the format, loved the show. Welcome back.

Posted by: Connie Orjansen | April 25, 2007 11:38 PM

The question is still out there, if the Bush Administration lied for its reasons to go to war in Iraq - WHAT WAS THE REAL REASON ?

Posted by: Michael | April 25, 2007 11:38 PM

Gentlemen, I can only hope that the work you have done will inspire a new generation of journalists to serve our country with integrity and intelligence as we negociate a future that is fraught with uncertainty. Like others, I weep over the consequences of a war that is illegal and immoral. I would love to see you do a story on efforts to impeach Cheney, a timely piece considering Dennis Kozinek is introducing legislation to this end this month. Bill, I look forward to seeing the rest of your series. I too have missed your work and am happy to have you back. I encourage everyone to support PBS (and NPR), icons of intelligent unbiased reporting. Thanks to the other authors and journalists interviewed on this show who were not afraid to speak out. I look forward to reading some of the books written by these individuals (ie, Lapdogs)and to purchasing this episode for my collection. May the universe bless you all!! Sylvia Daple Miami, FL Saugatuck, MI

Posted by: Sylvia Daple | April 25, 2007 11:38 PM

It's still happening. Today when a "news" show hits on the topic: the reasons for war were not based on facts. The topic is quickly muted with lines, from a guest, like "it doesn't matter how we got here. We need to focus on what to do now." Most major news hosts (CNN MSNBC FOX) do not challenge these statements--that are said over and over. It's like they are bullied into shutting up and bullied into believing it is an either/or situation: either question our intial involvement in the war or talk about what to do now. They should be able to do both.

Posted by: gerr h | April 25, 2007 11:38 PM

For those who don't have a McClatchy (formerly Knight Ridder) paper in your market, you can read their great journalism online at

Posted by: Richard Pachter | April 25, 2007 11:38 PM

Gentlemen, My husband, Mike Ferner, tried sending this to you, but I think the system is overwhelmed, so I'm trying as well. Sue Carter ----------- SO glad to see you were featured in bill moyers' program. please tell me how the peace movement can make a dent in this debate by simply telling our story that we were out there, daily, saying "don't go to war," and not just because we were a bunch of soft-headed cooks, but that we knew (partly from your reporting) that the case was not made for war. i can refer you to several sources--people who had been to iraq numerous times through the 90's and before the invasion--who knew of what they spoke, but no one would listen. see a couple of the early chapters in "inside the red zone: a veteran for peace reports from iraq," for more details on what the movement was doing and saying at the time. thanks again for your work. mike ferner www.mikeferner.org for a link to "inside the red zone"

Posted by: sue carter | April 25, 2007 11:37 PM

I attended several protests before the war, and the press never covered any of them no matter how large. Just like the press isn't covering attempts to impeach Bush and Cheney. I just can't understand after all the lies how anyone in the media believes anything the Bush Administration says

Posted by: Paul Cipriano | April 25, 2007 11:37 PM

Excellent work Bill, Jonathan and Warren! and thak g*d for PBS! you and Bill Maher give me hope. I live in NYC and have unfruitfully tried a few times to find Knight Ridder/McClatchy news articles on-line. If possible, please send me links. BTW -in case you didn't know: Bill Maher gave Knight Ridder props in his last episode for getting it right only a few days after the war propaganda storm began. Keep up the great work! Thanks! -es

Posted by: esther | April 25, 2007 11:37 PM

To the journalists at Knight Ridder: God bless you unsung saints of journalism. Although your newspapers were not read by many Americans leading up to the war, you can be assured that your service in the name of honest journalism is appreciated. To Bill Moyers, your show was enlightening, honest, transparent, and one of the best shows on the current state of the media in the US. This is a perfect example of what happens when the opposition is silenced and opposition leaders are diminished. Thank you for your service to America. Thank you for reporting this important story.

Posted by: D Lajoie | April 25, 2007 11:37 PM

When does the revolution start, and where do I sign up? Excellent reporting. My congratulations. Do you suppose you could do a story on the American peoples resemblance to sheep?

Posted by: Tom Hutcherson | April 25, 2007 11:37 PM

Did either of you ever wonder why Powell made that speech? He seemed to be the only one in the administration with any sense of caution one day and the next he was another lapdog! Was he "blackmailed" with something from his past? I was shocked at his UN speech....

Posted by: Bill Utley | April 25, 2007 11:36 PM

Gentlemen, I can only hope that the work you have done will inspire a new generation of journalists to serve our country with integrity and intelligence as we negociate a future that is fraught with uncertainty. Like others, I weep over the consequences of a war that is illegal and immoral. I would love to see you do a story on efforts to impeach Cheney, a timely piece considering Dennis Kozinek is introducing legislation to this end this month. Bill, I look forward to seeing the rest of your series. I too have missed your work and am happy to have you back. I encourage everyone to support PBS (and NPR), icons of intelligent unbiased reporting. Thanks to the other authors and journalists interviewed on this show who were not afraid to speak out. I look forward to reading some of the books written by these individuals (ie, Lapdogs)and to purchasing this episode for my collection. May the universe bless you all!! Sylvia Daple Miami, FL Saugatuck, MI

Posted by: Sylvia Daple | April 25, 2007 11:36 PM

Thank you so much for this important program, and this vital piece of journalism. Congratulations as well to reporters Landay and Strobel, who finally get the recognition - and the thanks - they so richly deserve. Please keep bringing us the truth.

Posted by: Matthew Palm | April 25, 2007 11:36 PM

Mr Landay & Mr Strobel, THANK YOU! You have provided a great service to our country and are true Patriots! If the majority of the media can be fooled by our government on the "facts" leading us to war, what about your average citizen? I'm scared to think about what other "facts" our government has used or will use to justify legislation. Can/Should we still trust the FDA, EPA, FEMA, NRC, etc with our health & safety???

Posted by: Marc R Burns | April 25, 2007 11:36 PM

Unfortunately, this summary of how this corrupt Administation and the compliant news media sold the war to the American public will only be appreciated by PBS viewers. It is unlikely to appear in context in the Washington Post, New York Times, or dare I say, on FOX, or on any other national network!!! Thanks for an award winning investigative piece of jounalism.

Posted by: Barry ;in Orlando | April 25, 2007 11:36 PM

Now that we are here, how can we beat a new drum; a drum of change? In other words, how can we turn this around? How can reporting change or reporters learn from this and move beyond criticism to take the next step in enlightening the American public about where we are today and where we need to be tomorrow? This broadcast is illuminating on how we got here, but my question is how do we move on? How does reporting change in regards to this particular past reporting?

Posted by: roger | April 25, 2007 11:36 PM

Gentlemen, Thanks for your efforts to provide the truth. I'm reminded of a Mark Twain quote: "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect."

Posted by: Ron | April 25, 2007 11:36 PM

2 + 2 = ? Knight Ridder is patting themselves' on the back for leadup to War Crime# 3 by Bush Admin. where you on War Crime# 1 American Reichstag. you know where the WTC 7 fell at pm. where the offical report has ZERO testimony from the LAST Man Out of the North Tower? ZERO pictures ZERO schematic drawings where you on War Crime# 2 the illegal bombing and invasion of Afghanistan?

Posted by: Patrick O'Hara | April 25, 2007 11:36 PM

Hello, First off I want to say I loved the program. It was intelligent and honest. Please continue what your doing and that is to get the truth out to as many Americans as possible. Yes, you can be patriotic and be against the war too. My question is, we are now in the thick of it, so what do you think we should do to make it better for the Iraqi's. Regards, Samah

Posted by: Samah A. | April 25, 2007 11:35 PM

Gentlemen, My husband, Mike Ferner, tried sending this to you, but I think the system is overwhelmed, so I'm trying as well. Sue Carter ----------- SO glad to see you were featured in bill moyers' program. please tell me how the peace movement can make a dent in this debate by simply telling our story that we were out there, daily, saying "don't go to war," and not just because we were a bunch of soft-headed cooks, but that we knew (partly from your reporting) that the case was not made for war. i can refer you to several sources--people who had been to iraq numerous times through the 90's and before the invasion--who knew of what they spoke, but no one would listen. see a couple of the early chapters in "inside the red zone: a veteran for peace reports from iraq," for more details on what the movement was doing and saying at the time. thanks again for your work. mike ferner www.mikeferner.org for a link to "inside the red zone"

Posted by: sue carter | April 25, 2007 11:35 PM

...and in real time...who believes General Pretraius (sp?) is offering objective assessments of the surge?...maybe parents who believe their kids should correct their own papers...and businesses that promote and reward based on self evaluations

Posted by: Joe Sahl | April 25, 2007 11:35 PM

Dear Jonathan and Warren, Thank you for not doubting yourselves and for daring to speak the truth even though everyone else in "big" media was eating out of the mis-administration's hand in the run-up to this senseless war. You deserve the Pulitzer prize for your reporting. Thanks to you, Bill Moyers, and PBS for tonight's program. I am delighted, as someone who has always opposed this war, that the story of how "big" media was used as a propaganda tool is finally being told. I only hope the media and the American people will learn the many lessons of this horrific war so that nothing like it happens in the future. The Bush mis-administration's deception and its consequences should be grounds for impeaching and convicting Bush and Cheney. They are both guilty of crimes against humanity and I hope they are made to bear the consequences of what they have done. I know this will probably not happen, but it is what they deserve.

Posted by: Denise K. | April 25, 2007 11:35 PM

Congratulations for breaking from the pack. Remembering the hubris in the fall of 2002, flush with "victory" in Afghanistan and belief in our superpower status is scary in retrospective. Had we been successful in Iraq, tonight's program could never have been aired, nor the many thoughtful books written. Sorry it has taken so many lives (Iraqi and US) for the public to come to its senses.

Posted by: Phyllis | April 25, 2007 11:34 PM

Welcome back Bill Moyers! You could not have picked a better subject to cover than the "Selling of the war in Iraq". For some reason, I always trusted the NY Times and Washington Post because I felt they were a little more liberal than the Wall Street Journal. This has been a revelation. Funny, I am a senior citizen in a little town in Ohio and I knew from the outset that this war was based on lies. Why were so many more informed and distinguished people bamboozled. I agree that the President and his puppet master/Vice President should be impeached. If that fails, they will pay for the many deaths and injuries they are responsible for on Judgement Day. Thank God for people of integrity, like yourselves, who try to do the right thing. Best wishes. KPR

Posted by: Katherine Russo | April 25, 2007 11:34 PM

Thank You Bill Moyers I've been waiting to hear at least an acknowledgement of how the main stream "news" media has failed our country. I had given up even on PBS to be able to hear the truth. I've actually been getting information (from you & others) through alternative resources such as Link TV and FSTV. I have felt that those "reporting" as they were told instead of questioning and seeking the truth were terrorist in their own right. Do you think that Mr. Bush would be in his second term now if the truth had been told? Thank you

Posted by: Lee Buik Denizot | April 25, 2007 11:34 PM

It utterly amazes me that the same voices now decrying the monolithic press and glitterati(e.g.Oprah) that supported the war (as clearly demonstrated in this evening's elegantly crafted piece) are the same ones now marching in lockstep in support of a different war: the war against "man made" global warming. Watch how any voice of dissent in this "debate" is scornfully squelched, as the leaders of this "pro-war" movement insist that the facts are in, the debate is over. If you disagree you are on par with the Nazis. Pretty nasty stuff. Beware of group-think, no matter what the subject!

Posted by: Reid Pierce | April 25, 2007 11:34 PM

An excellent report. A damning commentary on how the American media on the whole no longer covers news, but simply present controversies or conflicts of opinion. Perhaps it's time Mr. Moyers look at how the change in how both print and electronic media companies in the past 30 years has changed the quality of news coverage by those who work for those companies. It passed with no comment in the program that the reason the Knight-Ridder reporters now work for McClatchy is because Wall Street investors demanded Knight-Ridder be broken up to make the shareholders more money. How has that action changed news coverage by these brave & intelligent reporters? This on the same day The Washington Post business section reported that Morgan Stanley, a major owner of New York Times stock, is now demanding a change in the ownership structure of the company that has protected The New York Times newspaper from the demands by Wall Street which are in direct conflict with good journalism. Has our American corporate ownership structures led to our media being immasculated? All we had to do was listen to Dan Rather's comment about how CBS was now owned by a major conglomerate and...

Posted by: Pat Bale | April 25, 2007 11:34 PM

One of the best shows ever. I was one who knew they were lying from the git-go, and got slammed by otherwise sensible people who were stampeded by these fascists. What is the penalty for treason? IIRC, it's a rope.

Posted by: Pete Hisey | April 25, 2007 11:34 PM

I am so proud of your work ... and also pleased that the Kansas City Star is among the group to which you are affiliated. It is my hope that McClatchy is as supportive of your high journalistic ethics as was Knight Ridder! Thanks!!!! Thomas (Kansas City, MO)

Posted by: Thomas Palma | April 25, 2007 11:34 PM

It's still happening. Today when a "news" show hits on the topic: the reasons for war were not based on facts. The topic is quickly muted with lines, from a guest, like "it doesn't matter how we got here. We need to focus on what to do now." Most major news hosts (CNN MSNBC FOX) do not challenge these statements--that are said over and over. It's like they are bullied into shutting up and bullied into believing it is an either/or situation: either question our intial involvement in the war or talk about what to do now. They should be able to do both.

Posted by: gerr h | April 25, 2007 11:34 PM

Who can we trust? We should we turn to for our news in the media? Is there anyone we can look to after all the deception leading up to the Iraq war?

Posted by: Brandon Wark | April 25, 2007 11:33 PM

I am a Canadian who was living in Akron, Ohio from 1998 to April 2003. I read your articles about the buildup to the Iraq invasion in the Akron Beacon Journal, as well as following news from Internet sources. Thank you for your objectivity and journalistic integrity. It was with your insight that I watched Colin Powell’s UN testimony with such skepticism (and much anger). Tonight’s show reminded me of the movie “Wag the Dog”, expect that the reality was quantum leaps ahead in subtlety. Who in journalism is comparing this Cheney / Bush / Rumsfeld debacle with the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in 1979 and its 25 year legacy in horror and misery? Thank you, Bill Moyers, for thought provoking TV.

Posted by: Gordon | April 25, 2007 11:33 PM

I attended several protests before the war, and the press never covered any of them no matter how large. Just like the press isn't covering attempts to impeach Bush and Cheney. I just can't understand after all the lies how anyone in the media believes anything the Bush Administration says

Posted by: Paul Cipriano | April 25, 2007 11:33 PM

I’m not a big fan of blogs or bloggers. Why should we turn to people who need to express their own opinions? We just want facts.. The truth is that we’re searching for something other than the corporately news streams.. The ones are deep and straightly trenched to every small town, every family.. Even to my very own… Are these 1984 fears something new or is there historic precedence so we can assuredly say it’s only a passing phase that will somehow self correct with time? Is real reporting dead? What can we do? Who or where do we turn as collective force, no matter how small, to make some difference on ensuring that truth in reporting prevails? The report made me so sad I cried. Pat

Posted by: Pat Smith | April 25, 2007 11:33 PM

One critical flaw pushed your program from excellent to mere establishment pablum: not one word about the of the Jews among the neocons pushing the war and not one word about the Israelis feeding false "intelligence reports" to Bush and Cheney.

Posted by: joe | April 25, 2007 11:33 PM

I too was questioning going to war, and Powell's words convinced me he knew things that I didn't. I think you should check out the selective service site. The simulations for the drafting were put in place before the war. The agreements with Canada and Mexico to keep draft dodgers from getting out of the country were put in place almost as soon as Bush was elected. I read it on the Goverment site. I hope someone investigates the money trail. If you find out who made money on this war, you will find out how got sold to the people. I will stop wasting your time with one thought to ponder. If someone calls in a bogus bomb threat, and gets caught, they go to jail. If our goverment calls in a bogus nuclear threat and our sons and daughters GET killed, why is nobody punished? Thanks Bill and all involved to show us the obvious.

Posted by: john | April 25, 2007 11:33 PM

One critical flaw pushed your program from excellent to mere establishment pablum: not one word about the of the Jews among the neocons pushing the war and not one word about the Israelis feeding false "intelligence reports" to Bush and Cheney.

Posted by: joe | April 25, 2007 11:32 PM

Hi. I am the American who delivered the message to congress on June 24,1986 that "A complete change in the government operating out of Moscow will occur...The change ...will occur similarly to the way the government changed in the Philippines." I began predicting the terrorist would again hit the WTC by Jan. 1999 and took my wife to “see that beautiful city before the terrorist hit it "; and I refused, on my travels to New York, to travel south of 40th street. I was predicting by Jan 2002, with clarity, that Bush was going into Iraq. By the summer of 2003 I wrote what the outcome in Iraq would be. I wrote in 1984 "If we do not democratize the governments in that region, a terrorist organization will overthrow one of them". By 1989, I clearly described to deaf ears in congress the precise nature of the battle tactics that would be used against us. I may be willing, in the right venue, to describe precisely what is still coming...and I wrote it in 1991. I developed the strategy for avoiding this war that is so stupidly referred to as the "war on terror" in 1978; and the strategy...

Posted by: Getzel | April 25, 2007 11:32 PM

Unfortunately, this summary of how this corrupt Administation and the compliant news media sold the war to the American public will only be appreciated by PBS viewers. It is unlikely to appear in context in the Washington Post, New York Times, or dare I say, on FOX, or on any other national network!!! Thanks for an award winning investigative piece of jounalism.

Posted by: Barry ;in Orlando | April 25, 2007 11:32 PM

Perhaps the media, in expiation for its sins, might scrutinize another fraudulent and costly war drenched in piety and patriotism: the drug war.

Posted by: Devan Sloane | April 25, 2007 11:32 PM

It seems that 911 was our Reichstag fire. After that, almost all of us became "good Germans." Thank you for an excellent report. Could you suggest how we, the public, can become independent readers of the news and find our own sources? I feel terribly let down by most of the press that is available to me and I have tried to be a diligent reader of the news.

Posted by: David | April 25, 2007 11:32 PM

An excellent report. A damning commentary on how the American media on the whole no longer covers news, but simply present controversies or conflicts of opinion. Perhaps it's time Mr. Moyers look at how the change in how both print and electronic media companies in the past 30 years has changed the quality of news coverage by those who work for those companies. It passed with no comment in the program that the reason the Knight-Ridder reporters now work for McClatchy is because Wall Street investors demanded Knight-Ridder be broken up to make the shareholders more money. How has that action changed news coverage by these brave & intelligent reporters? This on the same day The Washington Post business section reported that Morgan Stanley, a major owner of New York Times stock, is now demanding a change in the ownership structure of the company that has protected The New York Times newspaper from the demands by Wall Street which are in direct conflict with good journalism. Has our American corporate ownership structures led to our media being immasculated? All we had to do was listen to Dan Rather's comment about how CBS was now owned by a major conglomerate and...

Posted by: Pat Bale | April 25, 2007 11:32 PM

Could this happen again with Iran? Are reports that Iran wants nuclear weapons and is close to developing them true? Great job with your reporting I wish I'd head of you before. Edgar

Posted by: Edgar | April 25, 2007 11:32 PM

Thank you for your reporting and perseverance in the face of what must have been tremendous pressure to shut up or speak differently. Moyers' show demonstrates that readers/viewers must read/watch news not just critically, but also skeptically - that is, not to have blind faith that reporters are doing the investigating necessary to corroborate and verify claims and stories. Thus, I wonder: what suggestions do you have for us lay people as to how to find real reporters reporting - those who substantively investigate Administration or other interested parties' claims, whether on Iraq or any other issue? Thank you.

Posted by: stephanie | April 25, 2007 11:32 PM

THANK YOU, Bill Moyers!!! :-) So good to see you back on TV. A calm, reasoning voice amidst the insanity.... Jonathan Landay and Warren Strobel had great impact, and their reactions about the lies we were fed early on seem to have been the same as mine (and likely many others) in the lead-up to Bush's illegal invasion, as well as the breaking of the Geneva Conventions with the war, occupation, and then torture and prison camps at Gitmo. Every once in a while one could catch a sentence or two in any "news" stories, but it was most certainly never in-depth enough for me. Suggestions for future stories: In-depth coverage comparing the Geneva Conventions (and it is incorporated into our laws per the Constitution) with the illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq and the torture of prisoners, most of whom have never committed a crime but they are being illegally held and tortured anyway. The war crimes alone are a blight on our national and international reputation, not to mention the endless string of lies coming from the Bush administration. I don't know that we will ever recover from this horror in my lifetime. Lamestream Media has dropped the...

Posted by: Bev Anderson | April 25, 2007 11:32 PM

After watching tonight's show, I remembered my own feelings, and opinions and observations of the run-up to the war. It reminded me of all the anger I experienced, the feelings of helplessness, and disbelief while I watched the administration spin their lies. That was when I felt we could still change the world. If we all stayed informed of each day's events surely the truth would win, hands down. But, the truth didn't win. The lies won so I turned away, the damage was done. It was too late to sing out what was true about Iraq. Tonight I realized, it's not too late. I can see that the world is a different place from where we were in 2002. Surely Karl Rove, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Condi Rice, and their minnions and believers have no real place in our future and their legacies look bleaker than ever. Thank you for chronicling this riveting piece of our country's history in such a powerful and indeliable way and being the voice of truth - it was not in vain.

Posted by: Andrea Barol | April 25, 2007 11:31 PM

One critical flaw pushed your program from excellent to mere establishment pablum: not one word about the dominance of Jews among the neocons and not one word about Israel as the chief beneficiary of the war.

Posted by: joe | April 25, 2007 11:31 PM

Thanks for telling the truth. To hear the truth every day, listen to democracynow.org Winn King

Posted by: Winn King | April 25, 2007 11:31 PM

One critical flaw pushed your program from excellent to mere establishment pablum: not one word about the dominance of Jews among the neocons and not one word about Israel as the chief beneficiary of the war.

Posted by: joe | April 25, 2007 11:31 PM

Thanks so much for your work, and I loved tonight's broadcast. Is cable news to blame for the decrepit state of journalism? Is there any hope for the veritable "old ways" of reporting, or is the punditry-genie out of the bottle and here to stay? What do you think this means for the future? Thanks again!

Posted by: Laura | April 25, 2007 11:31 PM

Thank you Mr. Moyers - for the show & for the chance to connect with the thoughts of others. I'm looking forward to Fridays show with Jon Stewart - I've thought of him as a 'cultural therapist'. He has the ability to provide that save space needed for even the most difficult guest to share his world view with us - something we need alot more of these days. if you feel moved to take action - please consider the following - the complete text of this conference (from 4/24/07?) can be found here: http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/21728 and a small excerpt is: Because I believe the vice president's conduct of office has been destructive to the founding purposes of our nation. Today, I have introduced House Resolution 333, Articles of Impeachment Relating to Vice President Richard B. Cheney. I do so in defense of the rights of the American people to have a government that is honest and peaceful. It became obvious to me that this vice president, who was a driving force for taking the United States into a war against Iraq under false pretenses, is once again rattling the sabers of war against Iran with the same intent to drive...

Posted by: Jill H | April 25, 2007 11:31 PM

Thank you for both enlightening me and "connecting all the dots" of what we've been hearing since this atrocity began. Yes, the media failed to alert us of its findings, but moreso our government has betrayed its trust. I fail to understand how one man can be impeached for lying about having sex in the White House and how others are not when they are responsible for the loss of thousands of lives, the ruination of thousands of others, the waste of perhaps a trillion dollars,our loss of international respect, and the time it will take to recover from all of this. The president, vice-president, and all those "goons" who are responsible for this insane undertaking should be impeached, tried for treason, and then be sent to the International Court of Justice in the Hague for crimes against humanity so that the world can see that the people of the United States really do pursue justice !

Posted by: Joseph Paccione | April 25, 2007 11:31 PM

Alot of American's were smart back then., and even instinctively aware (along with just about a first grader's logic), That's why there were huge protests which went pretty much unreported. That being said.. atleast all of this is now being officially recorded, and publicly "discussed", Maybe that will be effective in some way. At one time in this country..,exposure such as this had some actual effectiveness. I pray all hope is not lost. I haven't been able to watch the program all the way through, as of yet. So far, it seems, there were alot of clarified facts.., people pinned down.., like tails on donkey's. This is expected to feel reassuring. However.., it's just moving the food around the plate.., but noone's eating. The most striking.., frightening snippet.., I was able to catch.., was the 60 minute reporter stating "We had to present it lightly.., make light of it." That was all I had to hear. Rather than this new acceptance of light hearted presentations.., what really needed to happen.., and still needs to happen.., to really effectively pull the weed from the root- (meaning.., to literally save the authenticity.., integrity.., and literal value.. of this very country..,) What needs...

Posted by: nancy | April 25, 2007 11:31 PM

Gentlemen, I first want to applaud your efforts and steadfast resolution in not falling into line like most mainstream news affiliations. My question for you is this - in a time where we as a nation are beginning to reflect more with our minds than emotion, is there hope for the media to re-establish itself was a force for holding politicians culpable for their indiscretions and lack of foresight, or will the political machinist media continue to run rampant feeding the minds of ill-informed citizens who have bought into their rhetoric from the start? Thank you again for staying true to what every journalist should hold sacred - their skepticism. Jim

Posted by: James | April 25, 2007 11:30 PM

Congratulations for breaking from the pack. Remembering the hubris in the fall of 2002, flush with "victory" in Afghanistan and belief in our superpower status is scary in retrospective. Had we been successful in Iraq, tonight's program could never have been aired, nor the many thoughtful books written. Sorry it has taken so many lives (Iraqi and US) for the public to come to its senses.

Posted by: Phyllis | April 25, 2007 11:30 PM

Thank you both. I graduated with a B.A. in Journalism and I am glad I did. Thank you for the everyday questioning and digging... I am aspired. Do either of you have a website to ask questions about journalim? peace heather Detroit, MI

Posted by: Heather MAry Quaine | April 25, 2007 11:30 PM

Could this happen again with Iran? Are reports that Iran wants nuclear weapons and is close to developing them true? Great job with your reporting I wish I'd head of you before. Edgar

Posted by: Edgar | April 25, 2007 11:30 PM

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