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The Bible tells of a Great King in Babylon at the end times… the time of the second coming, and the advent of The Antichrist… Saddam Hussein aspired to that prophesy yet was hardly a great king… He was a thug assassin, who had narrowly escaped with his life for a murder committed at fourteen years of age… The fact that the CIA found him and recognized his potential… sponsoring his rise thru political ranks, even as he would murder his predecessor as head of government… by no means made him a suitable candidate… His ignominious death at the gallows did little to enhance his reputation for greatness either. So a Caesar of the Far East just might arise… Imagine the mercenary army in Iraq turning on US forces and defeating them, then negotiating an alliance that would make separate peace... Like mushrooms, the boys and girls in Iraq and Afghanistan have been kept in the dark and fed on horse manure... This promotes anger toward the society which sent them to those lands, to wage war against innocent people… acknowledging that the wars are contrived… Just as 911 was contrived and planned years in advance… They form an alliance...
While I appreciate exposing "Christian"-Zionism, for its dangerous war-mongering, I find it unfortunate that Mr. Moyers completely forgot that Iran is NOT developing any nuclear weapons, according to the UN's nuclear watchdog agenct, the IAEA. Mr. Moyers also joined the demonization of Iran's President, without even once mentioning that he does not have any foreign policy powers. Mr. Moyers used to be balanced, what happened?
Chicago Tribune Special report New revelations in attack on American spy ship Veterans, documents suggest U.S., Israel didn't tell full story of deadly '67 incident October 2, 2007 For Lockwood and many other survivors, the anger is mixed with incredulity: that Israel would attack an important ally, then attribute the attack to a case of mistaken identity by Israeli pilots who had confused the U.S. Navy's most distinctive ship with an Egyptian horse-cavalry transport that was half its size and had a dissimilar profile. And they're also incredulous that, for years, their own government would reject their calls for a thorough investigation. "They tried to lie their way out of it!" Lockwood shouts. "I don't believe that for a minute! You just don't shoot at a ship at sea without identifying it, making sure of your target!" Four decades later, many of the more than two dozen Liberty survivors located and interviewed by the Tribune cannot talk about the attack without shouting or weeping. Their anger has been stoked by the declassification of government documents and the recollections of former military personnel, including some quoted in this article for the first time, which strengthen doubts about the U.S. National Security...
I would like to draw everyone's attention to the excellent Op-Ed in TIME Magazine of 9/26/07 by Samantha Power regarding the Iraqi refugee problem. http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1665921,00.html. Until the 9/28/07 Moyers show and the above-mentioned op-ed, I had not realized the refugee problem was so great. Where is the shame? It becomes more and more difficult to live in this country, and the tragedy is that we are so weary and brow-beaten, that we just want to get on with our own lives. But it is harder and harder to shut out the truth and the truth of this country. Conservatives say that liberals hate America. I think it is the other way around, but I have no faith in either party. Would that we had the Parliamentary system where we could get rid of the head of the party, ie George Bush. If so, he would have been gone a long time ago. And November 2008 seems so far away.
The United States is trying to play God in the world; spying on everyone, listening in on everyone, telling everyone what to do, screwing over its own citizens as well as all other countries, in its efforts to become the riches, most powerful nation on the planet. In the process it has become one of the most evil nations on the face of the earth. However, it has its support base as did Saddam Hussein, as do all devils. I have spent the past 28 years delivering a message to her from God. A message to its people. The message is that Americans are being led by any and everything but God. I have brought a message of peace and prosperity to every citizen, whether they believed in God or not. Twenty-eight years and every power has rejected this message. The homeless reject it, all social support agencies reject it, including the organized Catholic and organized Protestant Churches, all preaches have rejected it (except a few) and surely all rich people have rejected it. As a Social Scientist, I've noticed that those that are financially secure are satisfied. Those that are not are too afraid of repercussion to do anything...
The United States is trying to play God in the world; spying on everyone, listening in on everyone, telling everyone what to do, screwing over its own citizens as well as all other countries, in its efforts to become the riches, most powerful nation on the planet. In the process it has become one of the most evil nations on the face of the earth. However, it has its support base as did Saddam Hussein, as do all devils. I have spent the past 28 years delivering a message to her from God. A message to its people. The message is that Americans are being led by any and everything but God. I have brought a message of peace and prosperity to every citizen, whether they believed in God or not. Twenty-eight years and every power has rejected this message. The homeless reject it, all social support agencies reject it, including the organized Catholic and organized Protestant Churches, all preaches have rejected it (except a few) and surely all rich people have rejected it. As a Social Scientist, I've noticed that those that are financially secure are satisfied. Those that are not are too afraid of repercussion to do...
“In the Democratic Presidential debate none of them would commit to taking American
troops out of Iraq in the first terms of their administration, if they should win. That would
mean American troops in Iraq until at least 2013”. In a “bushels of rotten apples which
one would you pick”?
To stop the acts by an autocratic “arrogant elitist ruling class” regime is to “AMEND
the CONSTITUTION”! ALL the issues should be and MUST be placed on the ballot,
in the hands of “the people to express their will ”!
The Congress, Senate , States and others no longer represent nor comply with “the will
of the majority people”. The “will of the people “ is denied and/or ignored!
Laws legislated by the congress, states and local government, funds earmark for wars,
bridges to nowhere, social, economic, and educations development shall and MUST be
placed on the ballot for “the people to express their will”, and not in the hands of a
“special interest groups”!
To “stop the war or military expansion” it should be by “the will of the people”.
To the extend possible - Expend the “EMPIRE” by SOCIAL, ECONOMIC and
FINANCIAL AID!
Here is your chance, Mr. Bush, the promoter of democracy and freedom! to liberate a country that their population (two and a half times bigger than Iraq's population) would welcome your soldiers with open arms. Please answer the cry for help of the people of Burma. After all you can do something good to make up for a fraction of your passed wrong doings. Please prove to the world beyond any doubt, that you have not been after domination of the Middle East and beyond only.
The US soldiers in Iraq are there today because they have volunteered to be there, unlike the Viet Nam war nightmare when they were drafted and sent to Viet Nam against their will. I am therefore amazed and shocked at the continuing numbers of those who volunteer willingly, to 'serve their country,' when the huge majority of the country believes that the occupation in Iraq is wrong. How does participating as a member of the US military in Iraq help anyone? How does it serve the country? How does it help the citizens of Iraq? If you volunteer to go to Iraq and get blown up in a truck, does that make you a hero? How can anyone be all they can be if they are dead? I truly believe if the people simply refused to continue to fight the wars that a handful of misguided politicians created, that there would be no more wars.
"They've changed their rhetoric, really. The name of the game used to be nuclear threat," Hersh said on CNN's Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer, adding a moment later, "They've come to the realization that it's not selling, it isn't working. The American people aren't worried about Iran as a nuclear threat certainly as they were about Iraq. So they've switched, really." The Bush Administration is all but set to authorize a campaign of limited, surgical airstrikes against Iranian targets, Hersh reports in the New Yorker's latest edition. In his piece, Hersh writes, "During a secure videoconference that took place early this summer, the President told Ryan Crocker, the U.S. Ambassador to Iraq, that he was thinking of hitting Iranian targets across the border and that the British 'were on board'... Bush ended by instructing Crocker to tell Iran to stop interfering in Iraq or it would face American retribution." The sites in Iran being targeted however, reflect the change in the White House selling of armed conflict with Iran. "Instead of... hitting the various [nuclear] facilities we know that exist, instead they're going to hit the Iranians as payback for hitting us [in Iraq]," Hersh told Blitzer in the...
Interview With Investigative Journalist Seymour Hersh: "The President Has Accepted Ethnic Cleansing" By Charles Hawley and David Gordon Smith Der Spiegel Friday 28 September 2007 Investigative journalist Seymour Hersh has consistently led the way in telling the story of what's really going on in Iraq and Iran. SPIEGEL ONLINE spoke to him about America's Hitler, Bush's Vietnam, and how the US press failed the First Amendment. SPIEGEL ONLINE: Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was just in New York for the United Nations General Assembly. Once again, he said that he is only interested in civilian nuclear power instead of atomic weapons. How much does the West really know about the nuclear program in Iran? Seymour Hersh: A lot. And it's been underestimated how much the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) knows. If you follow what (IAEA head Mohamed) ElBaradei and the various reports have been saying, the Iranians have claimed to be enriching uranium to higher than a 4 percent purity, which is the amount you need to run a peaceful nuclear reactor. But the IAEA's best guess is that they are at 3.67 percent or something. The Iranians are not even doing what they claim to be doing. The...
The solution in Iraq will not be found militarily or politically, but only by procuring the truth. We must first know the true reason for our invasion of another country, then, accept the responsibility for our actions. The cure for Iraq is the truth of ourselves. We must first accept the problem is us. The courage and strength it will take to accept this truth, is called true American grit. Do we still have it, the grit it took to make this country so great; I think we have no choice. Truth is the ultimate light, the power, and cure for all, including Iraq and ourselves.
I live in Thailand and listen by podcast each week. While I have long felt embarrassed by my country (and I do NOT dismiss all aspects of the US), I not feel like crawling under a rock. Could you add just a tagline at the end of your stories about who we can write or some small (non-monetary) thing I could do.
Thank you for your forum, and until there is universal health care so I can come back to the US, I remain, Sherry Payne in Thailand
I could hardly sleep after the 9/28 portion on Iraq and the war. The insights and information of Deborah and George and Bill supplied the missing pieces of the Big Picture Puzzle that has not been clarified at all by the Presidet or Press. I'm 77 and I felt sick with hopelessness afterward thinking of my family, grand children and great grandchildren's 'future'!?!?
I felt like this problem is like the multi-facets on a Diamond.....but with no shine or beauty.
I pray for the greiving families and us as a nation losing hope....BUT EACH DAY IS A NEW BEGINNING...and when the sun comes up in the morning I will try to radiate only Peace and Love in my small area.
With Gratitude,
Sally Nave
Former Medic Korean War
Would Clinton really do anything about Iraq? Maybe that is why Obama is gaining steam. He reminds me of the other Clinton in '92. Obama now leads Clinton in likely Iowa caucus-goers. Let's not forget Dean, McCain and all the other early leaders who nearly always flame out by the end. Right on the war when it mattered, a uniter and very principled, Obama is a good one to watch.
According to a Newsweek poll Saturday, Clinton enjoys a six-point lead over Obama and a ten point lead over former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards.
"Among all Iowa Democratic voters, Clinton draws 31 percent, followed by Obama (25 percent) and Edwards (21 percent)," Newsweek writes. "But among likely caucus-goers, Obama enjoys a slim lead, polling 28 percent to best Clinton (24 percent) and Edwards (22 percent). Bill Richardson is the only other Democratic candidate to score in the double digits (10 percent)."
Among Iowa Republicans, erstwhile Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney trumps Giuliani, hard, pulling 24 percent to ex-senator Fred Thompson's 16 and Giuliani's 13.>
http://rawstory.com//news/2007/Obama_leads_pack_among_Iowa_likely_0929.html
Regarding the refugee situation and Iraq, you left out any number that is estimated to have escaped to Iran. Some put this figure at over one million, although verification would be difficult, since many are thought to have lodged with relatives.
All discussion of Iraq should be precursed with the fact of peak oil and economic security. Bush "knows" that in the very near future all will come to see that his staking US claim to Iraqi oil will justify him.
Our world simply will not meet oil demand starting in just a few short years. This must be the beginning of all Iraqi conversation - to loose sight of this in any moment brings folly and misunderstanding to center stage. Bush believes that it is in our best interest to seize Iraqi assets. Most Americans feel it is wrong to steal their neighbors' possessions but no one has implied that Bush represents most Americans.
I applaud Bill Moyers for speaking the truth. While it is accepted that journalists are to be impartial, there comes a time when they have a moral obligation to say what is the case - even if it is not "impartial." Bill Moyers appears to be a journalist who has the courage and integrity to take that step when it is warranted. May he and his associates be encouraged to continue to boldly speak the truth about our nation's recent foreign policy disasters.
In honor of these fine soldiers, and their brothers and sisters in arms of whom I am honored to serve with daily, I present the following – to you and to our “leaders.” The latter has forgotten the sacrifice and courage their position and title demands. God let them learn from these brave heroes and finally do their duty. HOW A DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS CAN END THE IRAQ WAR Dear Democratic Senators and Representatives: American voter energy, turnout, and choice in 2006 placed you in a position to preside over a rare moment at which you have both the great privilege to make history and the unfathomable responsibility to choose a better path for our endangered future. The greatest factor leading to your party’s congressional leadership takeover was the public’s overwhelming discontent over the Iraq War; that discontent has grown, but to no end. The defensive position of the President and his congressional supporters in continuing this war is well-established and unmoving; the recent “change in strategy” little more than a street hustler’s shell game. While your efforts to end the war have the backing of the overwhelming majority of Americans, an inflexible and unified congressional minority combined with the President’s...
The tribute to the fallen soldiers is very touching and effectively captures their supreme sacrifice. At the same time, it was extremely painful and emotionally draining to see the sacrifices that are being asked of them without a clear mission.
I believe Bill Moyers Journal is enough reason to support PBS regularly. I have been grateful Moyers is back on the air, however in "What Next for Iraq" (9/28), I have to say that I was very dissapointed that Moyers stated "no candidate in the recent debate states they will get us out of Iraq before 2013". I used to consider Bill a well-researched investigative journalist, but both Kucinich and Gravel said on Wednesday evening in the debate that they would take action quickly; Dennis Kucinich stated he would return our troops within 3 months of taking office. Bill, you are doing exactly what the Main Stream Media is doing: telling us who will get the nomination in the Democratic Party--when we have months before that decision will be made, not by the media but by the PEOPLE!) Mr. Moyers, tell the truth! Americans look to you to not mislead us. As someone who sees that Dennis Kucinich is in tune with more and more mainstream Americans, I am devistated that you would come up with the very same message that the FOX, ABC, NBC, and CBS networks are feeding us. I thought you did more research than them. Please...
These are not my words, but what I believe:
Wars happen when intolerance reaches epic proportions, when the reasons for war become greater than the sanctity of peace. Wars happen when we fail to realize the value of being alive. Peace is not an issue of institutions. It is human beings who start wars.
Before a war begins outside, it starts inside. The war on the inside is more dangerous because it is a fire that may never be put out. Wars are being fought because peace is not being found within, because it is not being allowed to unfold.
I am ashamed to say that this is the first time I have seen your show, and much more embarassed to admit that the extent of the refugee crisis, arising from the U.S. (and others') war/occupation in Iraq, was unknown to me. It is not just the U.S. media that does not discuss it, not just U.S. candidates or government representatives that are not publicly discussing it. I am not a shut-in. I watch and read a fair amount of news and I work in an organization that is progressive, political and involved in civil liberties and human rights work. So my limited knowledge on the refugee situation is even the more shocking. But having seen this show now, I intend to find out more about what Canada is, is not doing (for better or worse). I look forward to watching your program again, and again.
How surprised - and touched - I was to walk into the room just as your program (9/28/07) was ending, but in time to see the bit on our soldiers. Yance Tell Gray is the son of family friends from the tiny, but wonderful, community of Ismay, Montana. I had just read a week ago of his death. Thanks for honoring this young soldier. (My granddaughter served in Iraq at the beginning of the war. I pray every day that she won't be called up again. Most people don't know how really tough it is over there!) Thanks for keeping us so very well informed!
No mater what anyone believes about the War in Iraq, the young men and women that are fighting it and giving their lives are heroes? Why, because they have answered the call of duty. It is not a soldier’s roll to question but to go with out question.
It is the roll of the civilians to hold our leaders accountable for starting Wars under false pretenses and hidden agendas. The men that fight them are never without honor.
God be with all the families who have paid the ultimate price and to the wounded who coontinue to live with the price they have paid. Thank You.
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