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In regards to your article Titled Why have we stopped talking about guns? Saturday 13 June 2009 I have to respond… Sorry when you stopped listening, as You put it, I began to wonder why I should listen to you. You see you do not make an argument. You site several crimes but do not provide details of those crimes. Were they legal or illegal gun owners? You fail to site the ample stats available that record how cities and countries who have strong gun control have found it to work for them. You fail to site how many crimes a year are stopped by lawful gun owners, even though they are in the millions. And finally your absolute fail to provide a cohesive argument simple undermines your goal. A blanket statement or an opinionated article simple covers up a weak argument. I understand that you refuse to read or listen to the opposition but I am going to suggest this article: http://gunowners.org/op0335.htm Please understand you are entitled to your opinion but as a man who has stood on the scene of many a gun crime scene I would rather the honest man be armed the the criminal who is...
I've followed you for many years. Respected you.
But I've divorced you, Mr. Moyers. After finding you're a member of CFR.
It pretty much contradicts much of what you say. And it's an assault on the American people.
It was not just since the booklist that Moyers watchers have cried out for advocacy of a 9/11 expose'. People wrote in fervently (on this blog) begging for investigation nearly a year ago when "Buying the War" was first aired.
First you say people weren't vigilant enough when there was a run-up to war with false claims: Then you say the same people who warned about illegal pre-emptive war in Iraq are too loud and organized when they demand open discussion of 9/11. Which is it: Do you want us awake or asleep, Bill Moyers? Don't hang the lanterns and ride through villages yelling if you fear our reaction to the truth. Don't claim we all are conspiracy theorists and anti-Semites when it just isn't true. Recall how they chanted in 1968,"Hey Hey LBJ How many babies did you burn today?" You know the soul of this country is self-immolating and that you have the water bucket, Man! How long will you keep Rick Karr locked in a closet? Maybe you should pass the torch now.
Again and again you see Harry Reasoner tales on the Journal. It does not encourage action or resistance. The reasoner style of journalism was perfected on 1960s CBS (see B S). A structural injustice with all its horror would be shown. The perpetrators were portrayed as normal and the viewers were supposed to identify with them. The victims remained below our contempt and the cruel systematic exploitation of fraud was just the way of the world. This is how several generations of Americans have been conditioned into complacency. We see it repeatedly with Moyers. Earmarks is a good example, The disposition of out tax money and national debt are being concealed from us and the EXPOSE' group wants to give us the idea that we should comb through millions of arcane documents to uncover the truth. A better way would be to insist upon new legislative procedures and standards, Earmarks are not in the Constitution, after all. We should also be able to designate how we each prefer our contributions spent and let Congress work for our budget. Corporate personhood could gradually be dissolved for full accountability in our society. Then there would be room for economic democracy. After all...
Dear Mr. Moyers,
I love your program, and I learn so much every time I watch you. It's really inspiring and refreshing to see somebody like you on the air, and I am very grateful for your sharing your gifts with us. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
I'd love to meet you one day. Meanwhile, I am curious to know what your top favorite books are, and which books YOU would recommend to us, viewers.
Thanks in advance.
Blessings,
Megy
Give Mr. Moyers a break. If indeed the truth of 9-11 is what we think it is, then someone in his situation speaking to this truth instantaneously becomes a target of the "truth of 9-11", namely the real perpetrators.
they certainly didn't blink when the buildings collapsed, I don't think they'd hesitate with even as revered and indeed, beloved a PBS journalist as our Bill Moyers.
I refuse to ask Bill to go on a suicide mission. Its not worth it. (I posted previously about this being the elephant in the room)
But somebody please address Daniel's posting. Start with building 7, was that a controlled demolition or not? Did Larry Silverstein say what was recorded or not? If indeed, WTC 7 was "pulled" to quote Mr. Silverstein, why?
The 9/11 issue is apparently offlimits. Even Mr. Moyers won't touch it. Instead, let's just ridicule anyone who brings it up or claim that they conspired together to promote the book, thus ridiculing it and the movement. Censorship and pavlovian conditioning at its best. Ignore WTC Building #7 falling in its own footprint. Larry Silverstein himself admitted on tape that it was a controlled demolition. As we all know, a controlled demolition takes about a few weeks to set up. Where was Building 7 mentioned in the 9/11 Commission Report? Nowhere. Oh yeah, BBC reported collapse of WTC Building 7 about twenty minutes before it happened, with Building 7 still in plain view at the background. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mxFRigYD3s The Japanese opposition party in Parliament already held a 9/11 debate. The opposition party lays out all the facts: the insider trading, Building 7, the hole in the Pentagon, and comes to the conclusion that the original story doesn't add up and that the Japanese were lied to by the US government. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq4_07FmCyA That's just the tip of the iceberg of what doesn't add up. And yet you US journalists won't touch this. You should be ashamed. Go on, Mr. Moyers. Prove me...
Bill Moyers has now been a hostage 21 days. Attention NSA/CIA/Echelon/etc. Tomorrow I depart my housesit in Maryland for a new one in Alburquerque, New Mex. Jack's wife called with my itinerary this morning and described how my plane from Denver will bank past snow-capped Sandia Peak and land at the Sky Harbor. (Unlike David Brancaccio, I really am on the road, not on a roof in Manhattan.) The fish, dog and cats will be waiting at a house just across the Rio Grande from Oldtown. I will watch the Oscars on their large flat HDTV screen. She also related some distressing news about our friend Jack Martin. Seems he was scheduled to be a guest on Charlotte Talks (Charlotte WFAE NPR) this coming Tuesday. It was an Average Joes episode with 4 guests. The problem came when he submitted his 5 requested topics for discussion. 9/11 was part of one topic and the chance of a worldwide famine another. He prepared extensively on his 5 and the 15 of the other guests, even went to the library and ordered several books online. The showdown came when the producer, out of the blue, accused him of being a listener who...
Dear Mr. Moyers, I respect you tremendously as an open-minded, courageous, thoughtful, and compassionate man. When you decided to return to news commentary a couple of years ago, I was delighted because I believe that your voice is invaluable at this time. I didn't take part in your request for recommendations for books for a future president to read, but would have suggested David Ray Griffin's The New Pearl Harbor. I read it after seeing Professor Griffin's interview with Amy Goodman on Democracy Now. His meticulous research and analysis of the 9/11 question convinced me beyond a doubt that the true story is far different than we have heard from the media and our government. I was especially impressed, as an academic librarian for 30 years, that, like the scholar that he is, Professor Griffin did not jump to conclusions about the contradictions in the available evidence, but simply and carefully described the issues that need to be resolved. If his more recent book, Debunking 9/11 Debunking, was the object of an 'orchestrated campaign' to be named on the Journal, that is because there are many people like me who feel dismay and despair at the fact that these questions...
Wednesday, 2/20/08 Rev. Mr. Moyers: It is entirely appropriate that you did not include in your recommended reading for the next US president Dr. David Ray Griffin's "Debunking 9/11 Debunkers" -- but not for a reason you would want publicly discussed. The reason is, that -- as you all-too-well know -- all of the finalists in the current presidential race have been hand-picked -- as they have been for nearly a century -- by the secret society of the global elite, the Bilderberg Group. The Council on Foreign Relations, of which you have for the past forty years been a director, is their public front organization: you have for many years acted as their vent valve for naive progressives masterfully manipulated into believing that you are their media champion. Since -- as you also all-too-well know -- the Bilderberg Group is behind many other things besides the CFR, anyone already affiliated with either group would already all-too-well know both the content and the veracity of what Dr. Griffin is saying about 9/11 -- even if the last thing you or they would do on earth would be to acknowledge it! You are therefore certainly well-qualified to spot a conspiracy when...
Final? You will never get the lid on this can, Moyers. Oboe trill!
Final Note? I believe the symphony of outing traitors has only begun. Cymbals!
Don't schoolmarm us with you pronouncements of finality. Putting your prissy foot down doesn't translate well on this blog or TV. Fife and drum!
The people will decide when its over! Tenor sax....
Bill Moyers appears to be a man of integrity and good judgment. I trust that he will also find many disturbing questions if he actually investigates the events of 9-11 for himself. The people of this world do not lack morality, only knowledge. It is up to people like Mr. Moyers to educate them.
Claire Benson (Feb. 17 10:32am) broke into the 2,732 person que on Power Reading to say how This Bill Moyers' Journal blog is one of the only citizen's expression of outrage outlets available to the frail, the overworked, and those not wanting to be darted, shot, gassed, beaten, hog-tied or tazed by the brutes who protect our oppressors. She further scolded Bill Moyers for being an unreasonable Establishment gatekeeper and agenda censor, just like many newspaper editorial pages. She asked how anything ever gets attention without the "organized effort" Moyers has labeled as "unfair." Maybe our fear, the fear citizens like claire and myself express, is too much for Bill Moyers to bear, for it coincides with the real threats he faces as a public figure. Grady Lee Howard and I asked you to watch his eyes and hands on air, to read between his comments like a Russian. The other night with Johnson and Bittle (as he shamelessly shilled their s**tty book) he mentioned his 4 yr. old grand daughter who will be 36 in 2040. It made me really wonder if these fascist thugs have threatened his family, directly or by innuendo.(Was this coded speech from a hostage...
Mr. Moyers, I can no longer call you my hero. For years you have exposed the corruption and lies that influence the behind the scene dealings of our government administrations. In this time when the current administration openly admits to using propaganda against the American People, I didn’t expect you to poo-poo with a grin what may have been a concerted Grass-Roots effort to expose the contradictions between the official explanation of 9-11 and the video, audio, photographic and testimonial evidence surrounding the event. I was born in the state of New York in 1964. I was educated here and earned a B.S. in civil engineering from the University of Buffalo in 1993. I’ve been plying the craft of structural engineering ever since. I’m part of the Grass-Roots effort to inform the American Public, people like you, who may be ignorant of the Laws of Physics or may be ignorant of how they pertain to the collapse of the three world trade center buildings on 9-11-01. The logical argument of evidence stated in Dr. David Ray Griffins book (Debunking 9-11 Debunking), a book seeking to clarify basic facts surrounding 9-11 and onto which you have attached a conspiracy to expose...
Jack wrote: "Coincidentally, I first became a 9/11 skeptic when I followed up on an artist named Paul Laffoley who recalled how he was informed that explosives were built into the WTC complex for later affordable demolition"
I came to this conclusion from a gut instinct of watching the behavior of the WTC and NYC administrators when interviewed. If you watch closely, you may see in their eyes what I did: The question of whether anyone is going to ask them how the explosives got into WTC7 for them to 'pull it'. "Loose Change" shows how they got into the towers, but there isn't really any discussion at all of the concept that MAYBE, just MAYBE, there are a LOT of buildings in NYC and elsewhere with demo charges already built into them. If TARE-ISTS ever found out....welll....you get the idea of why those gentlemen are so afraid, and it isn't just because of a few nuts with airplanes.
I am glad people are noticing that Bill Moyers, like Bill Maher, are not the straight shooters people think they are. The white wash of media's run up to the Iraq War is another good example. Most of thes people belong to the COuncil on Foreign Relations, and they sign a confidentiality agreement. These people knew Bush was going to war because they are part of CFR, so everytime Wolf Blitzer or Bill Moyers says "we should have been more skeptical" I agree...
We should be more skeptical of corporate media, because it's not mainstream, it's propaganda. Bill Moters is a member of CFR
My mom has a Masters in Library Science. She is reading Debunking 911 Debunking.
Bill Moyers, NOW you are just a tool.
I have been pressured out of or fired from 3 jobs since 911 for seeing it as an inside job.
Although the media ridicules people like me for contending the WTC was a controlled demolition, there are 270+ architects and engineers who agree with me publicly, and petition debate and discussion. As is par for the course, debate and discussion are shunned.
I had admired Bill Moyers' integrity for decades, but will comfortably let go of his memory knowing he sold me down the river.
The critics of Galileo refused to look through a telescope, fearing their own eyes would force them to agree with the great scientist's discovery, and put them at personal risk of retribution by the pope. For the same reason, "respected" members of the press refuse to call for an objective analysis of the destruction of the trade center and pentagon buildings on 9/11/01. They are afraid of the consequences of defending truth, when tyrants are in power.
Science requires that any valid experiment be repeatable. Since you missed the boat on Bush and Cheney's 9/11 experiment maybe they'll have to repeat it for you this summer using new innovative equipment, such as a suitcase nuke in a 2nd tier U.S. city. As totalitarianism descends Bill, we'll all be shouting,"..told you so, but you wouldn't listen." See you in the death camp, old buddy.
Fred Scott's letter is right on. How IS it that brilliant truth seeking journalists such as you, Bill Moyers, and others simply ACCEPT the official government fantasy? It is SO frustrating to watch your program and see you let pass assertions that Al-Qaida attacked the U.S. on 9-11. Got to the FBI's most wanted page http://www.fbi.gov/wanted.htm and click on Osama bin Laden's picture. A list of the crimes he is wanted for will appear, and NOWHERE is the 9-11 attack mentioned. Do a little research and you will find that this is because THE FBI HAS STATED THAT IT HAS NO EVIDENCE THAT BIN LADEN HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH 9-11. Frontline did a good program on Cheney called "The Dark Side". Yet they completely missed the content of their own documentary: they showed the only footage released of the [thing] striking the Pentagon. It clearly shows beyond any doubt at all that whatever it is, it can't possibly be an airliner. (I say this with total confidence, as an airline transport pilot with 25 years experience flying heavy jets). I've examined that clip in freeze frame and the aircraft has none of the characteristics that would have to be...
The last seven years have been depressing in the extreme, as if one suddenly awoke the only adult in a world full of five-year-olds, all screaming,"because BECAUSE!"
How could anyone witness the bizarre mid-air self-pulverisation of the WTC and not think "WTF? Who the Hell do they think is gonna buy this?"
My God... it's a planet of apes.
And now: the spectacle of over-educated idiots decrying the obvious truth more and more loudly, trying to deny the onset of reality like Pincher Martin hallucinating his way around the grim spectre of Death.
The fact is that these chimpanzees, typing away in an almost infinite number, missed the boat to begin with and have since magnified their uselessness to society exponentially with each passing day.
They will all soon be out of work, perhaps even treading lava in the Lake of Sulphur, if Biblical prophecy is any guide.
"Revolt, you thick-skulled idiots!" - Fritz the Cat
Mr. Moyers,
It seems that a double standard was employed when it came to singling out Debunking 9/11 Debunking for disqualification.
Were you not aware that Kim Michael's Art of Non-war also involved an "organized campaign"?
Why was David Ray Griffin's book disqualified while Kim Micheal's book was not?
To be fair, both books would have to be disqualified since recommendations for both involved so-called organized campaigns.
More than one poster has brought this issue to your attention.
I would appreciate some clarification on the matter.
Thank you.
Dear Mr. Moyers, I was pleased to see that you addressed the exclusion of David Ray Griffin's book on your most recent program, but was disappointed in your grudging commentary. Further, your choice of words was interesting. You say that it wasn't a conspiracy. Why would you choose that word? Wouldn't a far more appropriate word have been orchestrated? Or, perhaps, automated? Also, you say that it isn't fair. Would you apply the same rules to any organization that urged its supporters to contact their elected representatives about a particular issue or a pending piece of legislation? How often do you receive email from organizations urging you to do this and, in many cases, providing a script? Many of these requests also ask that you send in a log of your contact and the result. Would you say that this is "not a conspiracy, but hardly fair"? How many times during your long career have you encouraged people to do this very thing? You, of all people, should be the standard bearer for those of us who demand a new, independent investigation of the events of 9/11. You, of all people, should be exposing the string of coincidences that defy...
Yeah, well, I wouldn’t call a spade a spade either, and I wouldn’t call it exactly fair when YOU, the mainstream media (of which PBS is no doubt, like it or not, a component of) decides not to give any voice at all to the 9/11 truth movement. Just do a little research for yourself would you please? Molten steel, collapse at freefall speed, building 7, PNAC, unsolved anthrax attacks, my pet goat, zero accountability, for crying out loud, what the hell is wrong with you people? Are you deaf, dumb, and blind? You can’t see the forest for the trees? You’re all idiots? Am I the only sane person left? What is it? OH MY GOD, IT’S A CONSPIRACY!!! David Ray Griffin is the single most patriotic and couragous person I have known of in my half century on this planet. You really should give a listen to what he has to say.
I am very thankful that Bill Moyers announced the name of the book that was removed due to a claim that an "organized effort" was made to recommend it to the next US President, DEBUNKING 9/11 DEBUNKING As a founder of an organized 9/11 group, Valley 9/11 Truth and working with the grassroots national organization, 911Truth.org I was not aware of any 'organized effort' in this regard. Actually I recommended a novel, based on the events of September 11 and as a cautionary tale of what may happen if a thorough investigation of 9/11 continues to be neglected. This book, THE SHELL GAME by Steve Alten is about another 'false flag' or deceptive action, like the incident at the Gulf of Tonkin, which could lead the US into invading Iran. I actually did cheat on my recommending a book, since I added a second recommendation that I believe would be worthwhile for peace and justice, PRISON WRITINGS: MY LIFE IS MY SUN DANCE by Leonard Peltier. However, I am thankful of everyone who recommended Debunking 9/11 Debunking, and hopeful that Bill Moyers may follow up on this by interviewing David Ray Griffin; and/or announcing a special campaign by we, the...
David Ray Griffin is a good writer but a terrible researcher. Part of his books have accurate information about 9/11 complicity. Part of them are nonsense that is easily debunked. There are much better books that have made a serious effort to evaluate the quality of claims of complicity. see http://www.oilempire.us/griffin.html for a review better books that withstand fact checking and adhere to journalistic standards: Nafeez Mosaddeq Ahmed, "The War on Truth: 9/11, Disinformation and the Anatomy of Terrorism," Olive Branch Press (2005) Michael C. Ruppert, Crossing the Rubicon: The Decline of the American Empire at the End of the Age of Oil," New Society Publishers (2004) Paul Thompson and the Center for Cooperative Research, "The Terror Timeline: Year by Year, Day by Day, Minute by Minute," Harper Collins (2004) -------- Crossing the Rubicon: Simplifying the case against Dick Cheney by Michael Kane http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/011805_simplify_case.shtml Means - Dick Cheney and the Secret Service: Dick Cheney was running a completely separate chain of Command & Control via the Secret Service, assuring the paralysis of Air Force response on 9/11. The Secret Service has the technology to see the same radar screens the FAA sees in real time. They also have the legal...
Well, I'd like also to make one final comment about this episode and that is that most of the candidates I heard on the CBS news that night at least interpreted the question to mean: "What book has been so fundamental to your life that you would want to always go back and consult or re-read it?" However our viewers here seem to have interpreted it to mean: "What controversial book have you read lately?" I'd score one for the candidates no matter how poor their choices.
I wouldn't call it fair that you delayed your response and that you didn't do enough online research to realize that other books such as "The Art of Non- War" were also part of an organized submission on the part of many individuals. I happened to submit "Debunking 9/11 Debunking" without ever being directed to do so by any website or organized campaign. Coincidentally, I first became a 9/11 skeptic when I followed up on an artist named Paul Laffoley who recalled how he was informed that explosives were built into the WTC complex for later affordable demolition. Starting with Paul's interview on Radiorbit I followed my curiousity as my outrage grew. I had learned of Paul Laffoley on your blog, Bill. Maybe that's why I have so much frustration about how you especially are handling what is an open and ominous controvery. Too bad you didn't ask Susan Jacoby to address the question when you had her there. Her organizations and her colleagues (experts in debunking magic, the paranormal, quaint religion and all kinds of scams) could have been extremely helpful to us parties that are not sleeping well and want to try out our newly obtained passports. Please...
there was a response earlier that you only showed two sites about how you felt that the one book would make the list. In this age of the internet, it is easy to get one point of view to be the main one. Take Ron Paul, he is touted highly on the internet but his followers did not vote for him. Why? I agree with Mr. Paul on somethings but never believed he was viable. Too bad for us all. Also by using the call of the internet, my favorite show was 'saved'; Jericho. Great show and great writing but will it last?
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