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             TRAC 
               Interview 
              Transcript
             Victor Erofeyev 
              (cont) 
            The Russian people are indeed white 
              people. The Russian people, same as Americans, happen to be able 
              to walk on their two feet. But unless we figure out the difference, 
              that is there between the people of Russia, Europe, and the United 
              States, well find ourselves in the same predicament as Auntie 
              Neora who still doesnt understand what is happening in Russia 
              or why we have these conflicts. The blunt fact is  that Russians 
              are different, and this is one notion that is irreconcilable to 
              the people of the West.  
            Geographically, Russians reside in 
              what is known as Europe, but only in part. It is not a European 
              nation residing on European soil. Alexander Pushkin ages ago said 
              that its a quirk of history that Russians reside in Europe. 
              All the sociological surveys, all the research work done in different 
              Western nations ultimately boils down to this  the Russians 
              are those poor, enslaved people, enslaved by Communism, who have 
              only one dream, that one day, the shackles of Communism will be 
              dropped, which is not the case. Its basically a tantamount 
              to how do you adjust your expectations. If you focus, in other words, 
              to the Chinese person, youll realize he has yellow skin. And 
              if you ask him, would you please tell me about your father, he would 
              say my father just died yesterday and then the guy begins to laugh 
              for some reason, uproariously. And you shrug your shoulders and 
              say well, they are weird in China. After all, his dad died and thats 
              no reason to laugh. And supposedly, yes, thats how it should 
              be. Then you train your binoculars onto a Russian person and hes 
              also in the same position but he acts and behaves quite differently. 
               
            So what aggravates this whole situation 
              is that some of the Russians speak with some degree of fluency a 
              foreign language. They enjoy French cuisine. They speak not only 
              French but other languages, and that breaks your Western stereotypes. 
              And you find it all so very confusing.  
            If we have to take the stance of the 
              Russian intelligence, well see that this is what you have 
              been known for trying to save Russia. Now, what is intelligence? 
              In terms of definition, its a fact or people who believe its 
              their call in this life to fight for other peoples happiness. 
              We dont have intelligence in some other countries, but we 
              do have it in Russia. And the reason is because we have Auntie Neoras 
              in Russia; these are the people who have no idea what their happiness 
              is all about.  
            There has to be somebody some writer, 
              some academician who is so much superior to Auntie Neora that one 
              day, hopefully he will descend to her level and explain the difference 
              between communism and capitalism. Because she is so clueless, she 
              truly does not see the difference. You can spend hundreds of hours 
              explaining; therell be no result. You can say, well but she 
              comes from a Tartar ** village. But you dont have to go that 
              far to **. You can become a real estate broker in downtown Moscow; 
              you can become a local physician in downtown Moscow. Youll 
              visit thousands of communal apartments and youll see millions 
              of these very same Auntie Neoras.  
            The problem is that she not only is 
              incapable of picking out the differences between two diametrically 
              opposed political systems such as communism and capitalism, she 
              has no clue as to what its all about to be a human being. 
              Hence, there is an obvious need for intelligence. People who supposedly 
              are in the know as to what Russias all about, what is to happen 
              with Russia, and in which direction Russia is to traverse. So, no 
              matter what the Russian policy is, it will be seen as a plot against 
              these Auntie Neoras. There is nothing you can explain to Auntie 
              Neora. Well, maybe you would hope you can explain something to her 
              kids, but they happen to be alcoholics. Well how about the grandkids? 
              But it looks like they are all drug addicts. Well, now it is a very 
              complex matter  what do you want to explain and to whom? So, 
              apparently, each time around you have to start with the very beginning. 
               
            And youll start by examining 
              the exact values that presently exist in my country, and why is 
              it these values do not match those of Europe or the United States. 
              And why it is that each time we try to have a meaningful dialogue, 
              we fail and were still groping in the dark. And the reason 
              is simple - we have a totally different value system.  
 
               
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