Pearl did not gain anything from desegregation. They lost. The black kids lost their identity and they lost their culture. They don't have good bands. They don't have good programs. So desegregation really didn't do us a favor, really, because the black kids now are not achieving like they did at Pearl with segregation. Those kids went to college, the teachers cared. But now, you can't compare the students of today with the students of Pearl High.