So even if Rockefeller did go, all it would have done is delay the inevitable, and what happened pretty much had to happen.

Frank Smith: He made a bad mistake. He made a very bad mistake, and you can't justify that by having one of your cronies, you know, like Douglass, to come up and say all the things that they're saying, that we wanted every thing, and all we wanted was just a change in prison and understanding, recognizing that we were in prison, but the conditions in prison had to be changed, you know, because humans don't need to live that way.

So don't tell all the lies, you know. We need to get some factual stuff out of this, something has got to come out of this other than just people moving around, casting the blame, and moving the blame around. You know, Attica is more than that. Attica was a slaughter and it didn't have to be. And if the Governor would have took it on, and would have really did the executive job that he's supposed to do, then it wouldn't have happened that way, instead of sending some cronies like the commissioner and people to come there, to give up some token, to give up some lineament. And now you got, you know, 43 peoples in all, 39 they say that got killed on the retaking, that's dead today.