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Read comments, questions, and responses from the Virgin Global
Challenger team, as well as comments about this web site.
Comment:
Regards the interview with Richard Branson in this Web site,
date unknown, please be advised that this "weatherman" at no
time indicated or even hinted about a trajectory to Los
Angeles. The launch forecast indicated a sharp turn to the
northeast, over the mid and eastern Pacific with a projected
landfall well to the north of Vancouver Island, British
Columbia, Canada. Hardly anywhere near Los Angeles. I agree
that weather forecasting is not a particularly exact science,
but mine was exact enough to provide Richard two very
successful flights, a transatlantic and a transpacific. I
would have expected more.
Best Regards,
Bob Rice
Question:
I go to school at Roseburg Jr. Academy, and I think that
flying a balloon around the world is a real cool thing to do.
Please can you write to my school and tell us what you are
doing daily. Thank you!! Tony Darling, Roseburg, Oregon
Response:
To Tony Darling - We wish we had time to write to everyone who
has been so good to support our project. We are so busy
getting ready to go that we hope you understand that we can't
take our focus off of the flight. But we thank you for your
good wishes, and hope you will continue to follow the progress
of our flight through the website.
- From the Virgin Global Challenger Team
Question:
What kind of emergency equipment did the team have? Did they
have parachutes? What kind of cold weather gear did they have?
Thanks. Don Canaday, Charlotte, NC
Response:
Should the envelope have a catastrophic failure, all crew
members have personal parachutes plus bail-out oxygen systems.
If the bail-out should occur over water the crew will don
immersion suits, life vests and a bail-out pack with a one-man
life raft. There is also an ELT (Emergency Location
Transmitter) that will transmit a coded message to the SARSAT
satellites so that the identity and position will be with the
control center in under an hour. This ELT signal will also be
picked up by other aircraft within the line of sight
distance.
They also have cold weather gear.
If the balloon would have to ditch, the envelope can be
separated instantly from the capsule by explosive bolts. The
capsule is designed to float horizontally and has flotation
bags that will keep it stable in water. It is completely
watertight and also has marine band radios. Full scale
flotation trials were carried out using the mock-up capsule in
Holyhead Harbour, courtesy of ML Lifeguard. These trials show
the capsule entering the water as predicted and it remained
stable in spite of a force 8 gale during the trials.
Question:
If your balloon is forced to land or has an accident do you
have a rescue party who watches your progress?
Cheyenne Smith, Sumner, MI
Response:
Yes, there is a full search and rescue network around
the world as well as a recovery team.
Question:
How will you be able to fuel yourselves sufficiently
(both the balloon and your bodies) for as long as the trip
lasts? Good luck on your quest!!!! Los Angeles, CA
Response:
Balloon: Surrounding the capsule are six fuel tanks containing
propane gas, which is used to power the balloon burners at
night. Each fuel cylinder weighs 935 kg each (2,060 lbs).
Bodies: Nigel Gifford and Brian Welsby of Herbalforce have
developed special ration packs for the three crew members
according to their food preferences and nutritional needs.
There is enough food to last beyond the 12-21 day flight. In
addition, Alan Watson, a physiotherapist has developed a
specialized physical assessment and exercise routine for the
crew.
Question:
My fifth grade class has been following this site since it
began. We have researched hot balloons and read your site
carefully. We are eagerly waiting for your launch date. Will
we be able to communicate with the crew during the flight? If
so, when would we expect to view responses or receive e-mail?
We are very excited and wish you all the best of luck!
Sharon Simon, Barboursville, WV
Response:
While we would like to communicate with all our friends around
the world, we have to limit our communication to the Control
Center in London and with the aviation authorities around the
world. We hope you will keep tuning in to the website for our
progress.
Question:
Dear team. What is it like to travel the world from a balloon?
What is it like up in the air? Do you ever get scared of
falling off the balloon? Does balloon riding take you to
everywhere in the world? Is ballooning a hobby or is it your
job?
Response:
We hope to let you know the answers to your first three
questions after we make it around the world. Regarding
ballooning taking us to everywhere in the world - it has taken
us to some interesting places. Richard and Per crossed both
the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans together, and Rory has
parachuted out of balloons. Ballooning is Per's full-time job,
and Richard and Rory enjoy it as one of their many hobbies.
Comment:
Well, I wish Richard and Per every success in their adventure.
My brother, Adrian Tucker, works for the Virgin Airship and
Balloon Company in Telford, UK, and he has had to drive to
Morocco with the balloon capsule, I only hope they get to take
off this time!!! Caroline Tucker, Bournemouth UK
Response:
Erin Porter just saw your brother Adrian at the Control
Center. He is about to leave for China where he will be
building an airship. He has been a great jack-of-all-trades in
the Control Center, where he was trying to get the bugs worked
out of our elaborate phone system. We appreciate all the work
he's been doing on the project!
Question:
Congratulations to Mr. Lindstrand on your record-setting
flight! The NOVA description stated that you pre-breathed pure
oxygen for two hours prior to the flight. Was the purpose of
this to flush nitrogen from your body to prevent decompression
sickness (DCS) during the ascent? What precautions will be
necessary to prevent DCS in the event of rapid cabin
depressurization on the round-the-world flight?
Ken Moss, Golden, CO
Response:
In Per Linstrand's write-up on his test flight, he states:
"...in order to avoid the bends at extended flights above
30,000 feet you need to pre-breathe 100% oxygen for about 2
hours to denitrogenize the blood, (which is an extremely
boring 2 hours dressed up in too warm clothes)..."
In order to capture the jet stream the balloon must be able to
sustain flight at the 30,000 ft level. Human life could not
exist at this level without either breathing 100% oxygen or by
creating a pressurized environment. While breathing 100%
oxygen through a mask will give you the required oxygenation
of the blood, other medical factors resulting from the lack of
pressure in the body bring great discomfort after 4-5 hours
and hence this is not a practical position for a long duration
flight.
The only route feasible is to create a pressurized capsule and
for this we have two choices. We can either create a system
like that of an airliner where air is pumped into the cabin
continuously, in this case from the compressor section of the
jet engine, and where pressure inside the cabin is regulated
by an outflow valve in its turn controlled by an aneroid. The
alternative way would be to use a closed system like that of a
submarine or a spacecraft where the oxygen in the cabin is
re-circulated and cleaned through chemical scrubbers and
oxygen topped up through a liquid oxygen supply. The advantage
of the latter is less weight and complexity but much lower air
quality. The advantage of the former is a continuous supply of
fresh air, however it is a highly complex system and also
requires an air pump of some form.
We have chosen the former route just as we did with the
Atlantic and Pacific crossings. We have to create our own air
pump and we will do this by running a propane powered piston
engine on top of the capsule. This piston engine drives a
large supercharger, which is a CompAir screw compressor, and
this compressor (which consumes half the power of the engine)
takes the air from the atmosphere and pumps it under high
pressure into the cabin. This is a continuous process i.e. the
engine and compressor are running all the time during flight.
The pressure inside the cabin is regulated by an aneroid
driven outflow valve (which came from an F16 aircraft). This
valve will maintain an inside altitude of 8,000 ft. at all
times.
As the air coming out of the compressor is +165 degrees
Centigrade, a series of intercoolers are brought into use in
order to provide air at the correct temperature. The noise
level immediately after the compressor is some 125 dB
necessitating some clever silencing technology to make this
interior bearable.
The Virgin team believes that their balloon is the most
sophisticated balloon every built, but nevertheless it is a
prototype aircraft that will try to fly 20,000 miles on its
maiden flight. To expect that every system will work
flawlessly would be to display over-confidence and one must
always provide a safety backup in the event of a malfunction.
Although most items have been tested before the flight, the
entire balloon cannot be tested as such until it gets
airborne.
In the event of a depressurization, every crew member has an
oxygen mask and an oxygen supply for at least six hours. There
is also a bail-out cylinder that would allow a parachute
escape from up to 40,000 feet.
(posted November 20, 1996)
Question: How are you going to use the
restroom?
How are you going to shower?
Thank you very much. Ricky, Gonzales, LA
Response: There is an enclosed toilet on board and
it is next to the sleeping compartment in the lower level of
the capsule. It operates much like an airline toilet. The
pilots have towlettes for "bathing."
Question: Hello to the crew, I'm six years old and
my dad just read about your adventure. We are so excited about
following with you and will be checking in each day. My
question is "how long will this trip take"? I have a wall map
of the world to watch your progress!
Good Luck! Jared Thomas, Morgan Hill, CA
Response: Depending on the jet stream weather
patterns, the flight will take anywhere between 12 and 21
days.
Question: I am a junior high school English
teacher. My 7th grade classes have just begun to read
The Twenty-One Balloons by William Pene DeBois.
When we heard you were making this flight our enthusiasm was
instantaneous. This internet connection is the only place we
have seen any information about this flight. Have you
published articles? Done interviews? Are there other places my
students could find information about the three of you and
your plans?
I see this as a unique opportunity to combine English
instruction with math, science, history and geography. Do you
have any comments and/or suggestions you can make to my
classes?
Thank you for continuing to demonstrate that you CAN reach for
the stars.
Sandra Koch, Alma, MI
Response: Please stay tuned for our upcoming
interviews of the crew members with more "inside" information
on the flight. In the meantime, the June issue of Outside
Magazine ran a story titled "Balloonatics" that might provide
good reading material. You can also log on to
the official web site of the Virgin Global Challenger.
Our web site will periodically add informational and
educational material on subjects related to this
around-the-world balloon flight. If you'd like to be informed
when new content is added to the site, please add yourself to
our
listserv/mailing list and
we'll be sure to let you know when to check back.
Question: What provisions do you make for a chase
party in case of a forced landing?
Ed Kinzer, Sarasota, FL
Response: For more information on the search and
rescue operation that will be conducted in the event of a
forced landing, please check back when we post our in-depth
interview with Project Director Michael Kendrick.
Question: Correct me if I'm wrong but when you
talk of the stresses of 200 mile per hour winds on the fabric
of the balloon you are dealing with a hypothetical situation
where the balloon goes from a situation of zero wind to that
of 200 mph....not! I would have thought that for almost the
entire voyage you would experience zero "apparent" wind.
What happened to those balloons that had the upside-down
balloons hanging underneath? I thought they were the answer to
long distance flight. Kerry Fenn, Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Response: You're right—the balloon will be
travelling at the same speed as the wind or air mass
surrounding it. However, at lower altitudes, in the event that
the balloon hits a lightning storm, there could be gusts of
wind that could cause some stresses to the fabric. The
projected 200 mph speeds that the balloon might reach are
actually "ground speeds" (i.e. relative to the ground).
The "upside-down balloon" you refer to was that of the
Earthwinds Hilton around-the-world balloon project that was an
hourglass balloon configuration. The upper balloon was filled
with helium and the lower balloon was filled with pressurized
air to provide ballast. After several years of failed launch
attempts and a few short aborted flights, the project came to
an end. The information and data gathered from that complex
experimental craft, however, has been helpful to the current
balloonists who are attempting to fly around the world in
their varying systems.
Question: What is the farthest that a hot air
balloon has ever flown? Cody & H.O., Dover, DE
Response: The world distance record for hot air
ballooning is held by Per Lindstrand & Richard Branson.
Their balloon, Pacific Challenger, flew 6,700 miles in 46
hours. In this trans-Pacific flight they flew from Japan to
Arctic Canada.
Question: What date will the lift off be? I would
like to keep posted to time and date. I am a member of the
Arizona Balloon Club and I think the members would like to be
informed of your journey.
Best of luck to you all. S. Debber, Phoenix, AZ
Response: The weather will be the determining
factor for the exact launch date. Nonetheless, the project
will be launch-ready as of December 1 and the weather window
lasts until March.
Question: We would like to know if you wear
parachutes in case something happens during your flight.
Thanks for answering this question. T. Helen's Class
Response: While aloft, the pilots will have
parachutes easily accessible. They will be ready to put on the
parachutes at any time. In their training sessions they have
practiced donning them in quick fashion.
(posted November 6, 1996)
Question: How do you plan to deal with "local
authorities" in the advent of an unscheduled landing? Need any
ground crew? Best of luck!
Response:
Erin Porter, Virgin Global Challenger: Our Search and
Rescue Coordinator has been setting up a network of agencies
and individuals around the globe to assist in the event of an
unscheduled landing. The project's recovery team will be
"tracking" the balloon as well, and will be prepared to begin
the recovery process at any time during the flight. They will
make sure the crew's immediate needs are met, as well as
getting the equipment secured and shipped back to England.
Question: How are you going to control the
direction of the balloon, since the direction is controlled by
the winds in the jet stream? This is a question I would like
answered. Thank you for consideration of this matter.
Marvin George, Sierra Vista, AZ
Response:
Erin Porter, Virgin Global Challenger: The team will
judge the altitude at which they should fly by talking to the
meteorologists in London and they will also receive frequent
updated wind and weather charts via their INMARSAT Datalink.
If they wish to try and change course they can only hope to do
so by changing their height and dropping out of the jet stream
and finding local weather systems to push them in a new
direction.
Question:
I recently took a very modest hot-air balloon ride. It was a
relatively small balloon with half a dozen people riding in a
basket. We were airborne only about 45 minutes when they had
to land and change helium (I think) canisters. Presumably the
idea with this project is to remain airborne for the entire
trip. How can a far larger and heavier balloon circumnavigate
the globe without being re-supplied with fuel along the way?
How much fuel does it use per hour or per day?
Tom Puchniak, Montreal, Quebec
Response:
Erin Porter, Virgin Global Challenger: The propane
fuel is carried in six cylinders around the capsule. Each
cylinder weighs 935 kg each, carrying 750 kg of liquid propane
which is fed in vapor form to the two engines and in liquid
form to the burner. This amount of fuel is in excess of the
theoretical requirement, but surplus propane can be treated as
ballast. Each cylinder can be jettisoned by an explosive bolt
activated from inside the capsule. The amount of fuel used per
hour or per day is subject to change depending on
circumstances like weather.
Question:
Good luck this year to the Virgin team. This is the most
exciting adventure that is not based on a powered craft I've
ever seen. Great coverage on PBS also. My only concern was
that safety precautions were minimized to the point it was not
a viable project.
Hopefully that has been addressed through a year's delay. Have
diplomatic issues been resolved for foreign air-space? God
speed to your flight team. Burt Cheek, Lilburn , GA
Response:
Erin Porter, Virgin Global Challenger: We are
currently in the process of applying for overflight permission
from 97 countries and areas of special sovereignty that lie
between 20 and 70 degrees north latitude. To date, we have
received positive confirmation from 29 of those countries,
including Libya, Algeria, Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon and Nepal,
which we believe will fall within the initial flight path of
the balloon. With a target date of 1 December for
launchreadiness, we feel confident that we will obtain the
permissions necessary for the successful circumnavigation of
the earth.
Question:
What frequencies will the balloons be using? It might be
interesting for us shortwave listeners to listen in.
Mike White, Eau Claire, WI
Response:
Erin Porter, Virgin Global Challenger: At this point,
we do not plan to publish the frequencies that the balloons
will be using.
Question:
I worked on the various missile sites in the midwest and the
welders need special certifications and skill levels to weld
pipe carrying helium. The flanges were specially made since
helium is so hard to contain. How are you solving the leakage
problems inherent with helium?
Bob Regenos, Phoenix, AZ
Response:
Erin Porter, Virgin Global Challenger: Creating a
helium envelope one and a half times as high as Nelsons
Column, capable of retaining 1.1 m cu. ft. of helium and
keeping it there for 3 weeks is a major operation never
attempted before. The longest a gas balloon has been airborne
so far is less than 6 days, and to triple the existing record
has required the latest in fabric design and extreme attention
to detail during manufacture.
The envelope uses a high tenacity polyester fabric as its main
structural element. This is floated with a polyurethane
compound creating a gas barrier and a block of u.v. light.
This fabric on its own constitutes a perfectly adequate
material for a normal gas balloon but not for one which is to
stay airborne for 3 weeks.
The fabric for the Virgin Global Challenger has been developed
specifically for this purpose only. In an ideal world, we
would build the balloon and flight test it. However, it is not
possible to fly the balloon prior to the actual record attempt
as it is very unlikely that it will survive a landing without
damage, and it is also associated with the very high cost when
filling it with helium. Therefore, it is imperative that the
envelope material is tested in conditions that simulate as
nearly as possible the actual flight.
One factor in the testing is that this balloon will fly at
altitudes and temperatures that no other fabric balloon has
ever flow in and it will also be exposed to the violence of
the jet stream and accelerated into speeds in excess of 200
knots. Needless to say, this will put immense strain on the
fabric. The INSTRON machine has an environmental chamber that
can bring the fabric under test from 70 degrees C to +330
degrees C. The tensile jaws are driven by a computer and so it
is therefore possible to simulate 2 weeks of flight in the jet
stream at the correct temperatures and fabric stresses in our
lab at Oswestry.
We believe that this is the first time such testing facilities
have been available for balloon manufacture and it is
producing invaluable data for us. After making sure that the
balloon fabric has the right mechanical strength, the next
item to test is porosity for helium. This has historically
been very difficult due to the size and neutral properties of
the helium atom. We sought out the best minds in mass
spectrometry and commissioned VASECO to purpose build a helium
sniffer which we later used to test the porosity of every
seam. The Vaseco helium sniffer can complete a porosity test
of a one meter-long seam in about 10 seconds. For comparison
purposes, the traditional diffusion test takes at least 3
hours.
Question:
I believe that your program about around the world balloon
flights mentioned that one of the crew members had a hang
glider altitude record. I was involved with a 1982 record hang
glider flight by John Bird shown in the 1987 Guinness Book of
Records (the last one I have) at 39,000 feet (the book
indicates it was made with a hot air balloon - in fact it was
a helium balloon). I wasn't aware that this record had been
exceeded and would be interested in the details.
Steve Hindmarch, Vancouver, BC
Response:
Erin Porter, Virgin Global Challenger: On June 19,
1984, Rory McCarthy attached his hang glider to a hot air
balloon, piloted by Per Lindstrand, and ascended to an
altitude of 36,700 feet before releasing. In doing so, Rory
claimed the World Hang Gliding Altitude Record, a record that
remained unbroken for 10 years. Judy Leden set a new World
Record of 38,000 feet in 1995. On September 18, 1986, Rory set
a new Civilian Sky Diving Altitude Record, jumping from a hot
air balloon, again piloted by Per Lindstrand, from an altitude
of 35,600 feet.
Question:
I am a meteorologist working for the National Weather Service
at the Northwest River Forecast Center in Portland, Or. We
watch the jet stream flow across the Pacific looking for jet
pulses that generate rain storms affecting the Northwest
United States. Our favorite part of these jet pulses are the
forward left quadrant and right rear quadrant, where the
greatest vertical lift...highest depth of clouds and all the
rain occurs. With any luck, you'll get to ride one of these
beasties at 200 knots plus across the Pacific. I wish I could
ride with! What a learning experience...
Second best would be to track you guys as you make your way
across the Pacific. Are you going to send out Pilot Reports
(PIREPS)? Is anyone planning on putting out a homepage showing
your PIREP on a geographical chart (With Lat/Lon). If not
would you like me to pursue this with my colleagues? Something
like this would be educational for local schools, and frankly
would be very useful for local operations.
Observations at altitude are kind of scarce out in the
Pacific. Anything we could get would be used. We'd sure love
to hear from you guys, on the way across if you have the time.
Anything you see out the window (i.e. clouds), and
measurements such as outside air temperature, wind velocity
etc we could use. Joel Lanier, Vancouver, WA
Response:
Erin Porter, Virgin Global Challenger: The pilots
will be filing position reports on a regular basis. We will
update the information on a regular basis, including last know
location of the balloon, milestones, crew condition, etc.
As far as meteorological data, the crew will be measuring that
to some degree. However, we cannot guarantee that they will be
in a position to provide customized weather information.
Richard Branson and Per Lindstrand did get to ride one of
those "beasties" you mentioned in their flight across the
Pacific in January 1991: the balloon averaged 127 knots from
take off to landing and in the middle of the Pacific it
sustained a speed of over 200 knots for several hours.
Question:
I was intrigued by the air of desperate competition in the
treatment of the Balloon episode. This was particularly
palpable in the Virgin team, as evidenced by their plan to try
and launch even though they had not done adequate testing or
training for the satisfaction of the flight team members (i.e.
Rory). As an engineer and a businessman, I was shocked by
Richard's incredible drive to launch, even if it meant serious
risk to the project and to his life. I am also a rock climber,
so I am aware of the thrill of victory - the incredible
feeling of accomplishment of climbing a route that has not
been done before - which seems to be driving Richard. Still I
was wondering, have the Virgin team now addressed the training
and testing concerns that Rory had last year? I am also
interested in the resolution of the financial issues between
Per's company and the Virgin Project. Any updates forthcoming?
Mike Leclere, Roseville, CA
Response:
Erin Porter, Virgin Global Challenger: The
postponement of the project has allowed time for some
equipment update and for a Test Flight Program using a number
of smaller balloons built for that purpose during 1995. In
particular, it allowed time to build a back up envelope, and
the team took the opportunity to increase the envelope size
from 900,000 cubic feet to 1.1 million cubic feet, which
should give an increased altitude capability and the ability
to take on board more fuel. The flight testing program will
continue right up to launch in Marrakech and in order to do
so, due to the European weather being unsuitable in
October/November, the program has now been moved to the
deserts of Nevada.
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