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Heart surgeon O. H. Frazier
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Pioneering Surgeon: O. H. Frazier
Dr. O. H. Frazier has done more heart transplants and more
implants of left ventricular assist devices than anyone
else. Chief of Cardiopulmonary Transplantation at the Texas
Heart Institute in Houston, Frazier also stands in the
vanguard of researchers testing various partial and total
artificial hearts, in hopes of saving the lives of the
hundreds of thousands of people in the U.S. who die every
year from coronary heart disease. Here he talks with NOVA
producer Sarah Holt about everything from the early Jarvik-7
artificial heart (the one implanted in Barney Clark, who in
1982 became the first recipient of a permanent artificial
heart) to the new AbioCor total artificial heart, the first
that will be completely enclosed within the body.
NOVA: Will the heart be the first organ that we succeed
in replacing?
Frazier: As far as an internal organ that we can
replace, the heart certainly seems to be the organ that will
be first. Some research is ongoing with both livers and lungs,
but that technology is very early in development. The heart is
still a complicated organ to replace (much more than a simple
pump) but the technology is better developed. The heart has
many properties, including hormonal properties, that we never
appreciated when we first started doing this research. In the
near future, I think that the heart will be the only organ
that will be replaced as a totally artificial or man-made
substitute for an internal human organ.
NOVA: And why is that so important?
Frazier: It's important from a lot of standpoints. Too
many patients die prematurely. Today, if an active working
person in his or her 70s dies from a heart attack, that death
is premature. The main cause of premature death in the U.S.
and the world is heart disease. Even though we smoke less, eat
more healthful foods, and exercise, the incidence of heart
disease has not decreased. If anything, it seems to be
increasing. In addition, heart disease is a very common cause
of death in women as well as men—in fact, heart disease
causes death in more women under the age of 60 than breast
cancer does—and it also plagues children and young
adults.
NOVA: Heart transplantation is not enough?
Frazier: Heart transplants were a remarkable advance. I
have the dubious honor of probably doing more than anyone,
because I'm the only one at our center who does transplant
operations. I've done over 700 heart transplants, but I have
very mixed feelings about it. Heart transplantation is a
wonderful technology, and it helps patients, but it's a rather
temporary solution. All of us in the field have been rather
discouraged by the limitations of long-term survival,
particularly in our young patients.
Frazier has done more heart transplants than anyone
else.
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It's especially hard when we do a transplant in a young child.
With a successful heart transplant, a young child (2-3 years
old) grows to be 13 or 14, and then may die or require a
second transplant. The parents are always grateful, but the
situation is really difficult.
It's the same for the young adults. I have patients 25 or 30
years old. They appreciate living another eight to ten years.
But they want more, and we want more. Probably the most
emotionally satisfying patients we do heart transplants for
are those in their 60s, because they are more satisfied with
the additional time, which is enough to get them their three
score and ten.
NOVA: Aren't there only about 2,000 hearts available
for transplant every year?
Frazier: Yes, and that number has gone down instead of
up. We have fewer homicides, fewer automobile accidents. The
helmet laws have made a significant difference in the number
of motorcycle fatalities. In the 1980s, hardly a week went by
without our seeing a donor who had been killed on a
motorcycle. We haven't seen that in years. This is good,
actually. After all, it's rather disquieting to have to depend
on the misfortune of others for these patients to benefit. In
addition, many of the donors we do have are older and more
compromised than in previous years.
Also, the cost of heart transplantation is enormous, and
there's no way of lessening the cost. A heart transplant
requires a team of people in the operating room and a large
team of people to take care of these patients after their
transplant. For all of these reasons, it's very important that
research into artificial hearts continues.
NOVA: What are your thoughts on the Jarvik-7 artificial
heart?
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The Jarvik-7, here held by its designer, Robert
Jarvik, was the first total artificial heart to be
implanted in a patient.
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Frazier: The Jarvik-7, which was designed for long-term
use, was an outgrowth of our experience in temporary total
artificial hearts as bridges to transplant. Early on, we
implanted two total artificial hearts and an LVAD as bridges
to transplant (1969, 1978, and 1981). The Jarvik-7 was
introduced before it became apparent that the
immunosuppressive drug cyclosporine would make transplants
feasible again and, importantly, allow bridges to transplant
to be successful.
Most of us doing research in the field of artificial hearts
were not optimistic about the use of the Jarvik-7 heart as
permanent therapy. The calf experiments with the Jarvik-7
showed limited survival. There were frequent problems with
infections, with durability, and with strokes or blood clots.
So we were a bit skeptical of the outcome. I think there were
even some public statements made to that effect by both Dr.
[Michael] DeBakey and Dr. [Denton] Cooley at the time this
trial began.
But the remarkable thing about that trial was really how well
the patients did. All of the patients were dying, and the pump
lasted far longer and had far fewer problems than we had
anticipated. Of course, all those patients had a lot of spirit
and courage as well. We were encouraged by that, because the
device was loud and bulky and actually rather traumatic with
its forceful pumping. We thought that these problems might be
difficult for the patients to accept, but they seemed to
accept them very well.
NOVA: So a lot was learned from the Jarvik-7?
Frazier: Yes. I think all of us in the field were
stunned because the heart worked so well. I saw those
patients, and it was absolutely remarkable that they lived as
long as they did. One survived about 600 days. I don't think
any of the LVADs have lasted much longer. [LVADs are left
ventricular assist devices—partial artificial hearts
that take over pumping blood for the left ventricle.] That
showed the durability of the human body and the human spirit.
NOVA: Yet after Jarvik-7, didn't many researchers in
the field begin focusing strictly on developing LVADs?
Axial-flow pumps are tiny enough to fit inside the
human heart.
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Frazier: That's right. Historically, we thought the
artificial heart would be the answer. When I was in medical
school, the head of our research team was one of the most
experienced people in the field. He told me in 1965 that by
1980 there would be 100,000 Americans with a total artificial
heart. Of course, there weren't. As the difficulties with the
total artificial heart became more apparent, we reverted to
the use of the LVAD for a lot of reasons, one of which was
that it was sImpler. We could time the pumping of the LVAD by
using the action of the native heart. And by leaving the
native heart in place, we didn't have to deal with the space
confinements that trying to replace the whole heart gave us.
NOVA: A real breakthrough in developing LVADs came in
1988 with Richard Wampler's axial-flow pump [a tiny,
continuous-flow pump that allows weakened hearts to recover].
Did that pave the way for the new continuous-flow LVADs like
the Jarvik-2000 and the DeBakey VAD?
Frazier: Yes, it really opened up this field. Wampler
designed it for use as a temporary pump: a very small,
continuous-flow pump that would take the blood out of the
heart when the heart failed after a sudden heart attack or
right after heart surgery, and pump for a few days to allow
the heart to rest.
Our first use of the Hemopump in April 1988 was very dramatic
because it showed us that patients could live without a pulse.
I had one little boy who lived for about three days without a
pulse at all. He was very small, and this tiny pump could take
over his entire circulation. He woke up, he ate popsicles, and
he did very well for a period of time until his heart had
recovered enough to start beating again.
With the Hemopump, we also learned that we could have a very
high rate of flow and turbulence in the bloodstream without
destroying the blood cells, which was a very important
finding. That stimulated others to develop continuous-flow
pumps.
Continue: The advantages of continuous flow
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Pioneering Surgeon
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