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Responses and Comments Climbing
Updated May 29, 1997
Question:
Hope everyone continues to enjoy good health there and
things progress for you guys. I have a couple of questions.
Many of the more successful Everest climbers are more
"mature" (sorry guys!). At least compared to the typical
rock-jock/gym rat set anyhow. My question is, given that
some of you have had multiple Everest experiences, have you
noticed a change with age that in some way might give you an
edge that you might not have had the first time you were
there? Certainly it's true that a person's physiological
makeup (breathing/heart rate, etc.) changes with age, and I
just thought that maybe age here might at times be an
advantage (separate from experience). Also, a quick question
about weather. There have been a few winter ascents if I
remember correctly. Besides the cold temperatures that one
would have to deal with, I was wondering if the jet stream
moves and stays away from the mountain for long periods of
time during the winter months, thereby possibly decreasing
the wind factor that otherwise always.
Doug V.
La Jolla, CA
Response from Pete Athans:
Experience being on a mountain is always a positive asset.
Knowledge of the route provides a security when climbing.
During the winter months, the Jet Stream is right over the
mountain.
Response from Dr. Howard Donner:
There is current evidence that intracranial dynamics play a
role in the development of AMS and Cerebral Edema. There is
preliminary suggestion that some of the cerebral changes
occurring with aging may protect older climbers from
developing symptoms as readily.
Question:
Read all the comments with great interest...best of luck.
With all of the pressure you must be feeling, does anything
FUNNY ever happen up there, and, if so, what (other than
getting silly notes like this...) ?? How do you keep a sense
of humor?
David Jamieson
Tampa, FL
Response from Pete Athans:
Medication helps! Our Sherpa team reminds me of the juvenile
band I "studied" with in Junior High—pure comic
relief.
Response from Base Camp:
Things got pretty hilarious when Howard Donner arrived with
various tools from his trade: 1) a big plastic eye with
veins popping out of it for use in a retinal hemorrhage
sequence we were shooting (it's called a "gurgling gutz
eyeball"); 2) a plastic arm that appears in the strangest
places (imagine, an arm lying underneath the entrance to
your tent); 3) a yet-to-be-placed rubber excrement (poop)
that will surely appear in someone's sleeping bag in the
next few days. David Breashears is the most likely
candidate; and 4) SPIN, our crash test dummy friend who will
hopefully be the first plastic hero to the summit of
Everest. Also, the daily radioed-in rap songs sung by our
virtuoso, Pete Athans, have kept us hooting. We need to find
him an agent.
Question:
As we were reading your previous information we noticed that
the first two weeks of May were considered prime time for
summitting Mt. Everest. How long into the season can a
successful climb be attempted? As May turns to June, July,
and August how does that effect the climb? Also, I was able
to listen to your interview of May 14 and was amazed and
pleased. Tears of joy came to my eyes to realize that my
students and I were able to hear from the "top of the
world". With all your efforts and duties there we wish to
express sincere appreciation that you and your team are
willing to share this experience with the rest of us. Take
care and tell Liesl Clark that my fifth grade class still
thinks of her!
Sharon Simon/Helen Smith
Barboursville, WV
Response from Pete Athans:
The spring or pre-monsoon season is over on the first of
June and we are not allowed to be climbing after that date.
The last summit dates are the 27th and 28th of May.
Response from Liesl Clark:
Hello to Sharon Simon's Class from Base Camp. The pressure's
building up here and we're so pleased to know that you're
with us on this expedition. We've just received a weather
report stating that a projected cyclone is moving north from
the Bay of Bengal, but weakening. That's good news for us as
we only have a handful of days to get this show on the road.
Keep your fingers crossed.
Question:
David Carter,
I saw in your response to a letter that you climbed Mt.
Rainier in your first days of climbing. I did that climb in
'88 and the guides said they train for Everest on Rainier. I
was wondering how much more of a technical climb Everest is
compared to Rainier. Good luck to all of you during climb.
Peter Gatchell
Cincinnati, OH
Response from David Carter:
Rainer in every aspect is like Everest except in altitude.
There are some technical areas on Everest such as the Khumbu
Icefall, Lhotse Face and the Hillary Step which, at
altitude, can be quite challenging.
Question:
First let me say thanks for sharing your adventure with us.
The QTVR shots allow me to experience Everest in a way
that's as close to being there as I'm ever likely to
encounter. I am curious as to how the locations of the
various camps were established? Camp III seems to be located
in a very precarious position.
Greg Hilton
Austin, TX
Response from David Breashears:
The various camp locations have been established since the
earliest expeditions on Everest's traditional South Col
route. They are spaced according to available space and
manageable ascent for acclimatization, as the camps are
about 2,000 feet apart. Camp I is at the top of the Icefall,
located on the first flat ground above the several thousand
foot ascent from Base Camp. Camp II, in the Western Cwm, is
also located on flat ground a few thousand feet higher, just
enough for good acclimatization. Then, Camp III on the
Lhotse Face is situated in one of the few possible locations
on the sheer face of Lhotse. Here, people have to dig tent
platforms out of the 35-degree ice slope. Camp IV is located
on the next possible flat ground on the South Col. It is
interesting to note that Hillary and Tenzing's expedition in
'53 had eight camps. Base Camp was located at what is now
Gorak Shep and Camp I was what is now our Base Camp. They
then had the same camps we have today with an additional
(and final) camp at 27,000 feet, i.e. above our current Camp
IV.
Question:
To the members of the Everest Expedition team,
My question is concerning the time of year at which you are
climbing. This coming Nov. I am signed up for a trek to Base
Camp and to climb Kala Pattar. Last year when I signed up
for the trek I had a choice of May or Nov. After doing some
research Nov was my choice because it was the driest month.
My question is: if there is over 100 people at Base Camp
now, is there a lot more than that in Oct. and Nov.? A lot
of tragedy seams to happen in April and May why did you
chose this time of year and not the fall? Good Luck to all
of you on your final assent. My thoughts are with you.
Jack Leary
Simsbury, CT
Response from Base Camp:
Historically, there are fewer expeditions on Everest in the
fall weather window because that window is smaller and the
atmospheric pressure at that time of year is lower. Heavy
snowfalls also present greater avalanche danger. The spring
presents the longest window of opportunity, more hours of
sun each day, and generally warmer temperatures for
climbing.
Question:
When you look out over the top of the world from the vantage
point of being closer to the heavens than anyone else except
astronauts how does that affect your perspective of everyday
life as we know it. You are engaged in a struggle to survive
while we watch from the comfort of our modern conveniences.
How has this altered your views on society as a whole? Also,
is it possible for amateur radio operators to contact you
and what frequency are you on? Keeping you in prayer for a
safe and successful journey.
Bernie David
Georgetown, TX
Response from David Breashears:
Here's our favorite quote by Rene Dumal, author of
Mountain Analogue: "You have to come down from your
summit, so why climb in the first place? Just this: What is
above knows what is below. But what is below does not know
what is above. One climbs, one sees, and one descends. There
is an art of conducting oneself in the lower regions by what
one has learned higher up. When one can no longer see, one
can at least know."
Question:
It seems as though most deaths on Everest occur on the
descent from the summit. Is there any particular reason why?
Also, how long does it take to ascend and descend the summit
from the "last camp" (Camp III?). I also appreciate the time
that you men are spending to inform us of your journey. My
prayers are with you!
Jeff Renison
Stockton, CA
Response from Base Camp:
Hope this doesn't disappoint you, but the 'informants' of
the journey include women—the producer and associate
producer of the NOVA film. As I understand it, the
predominance of deaths upon return from the summit is due to
the fact that this is when climbers are most tired and most
often caught (after climbing for nearly 20 hours and having
not slept for 48 or even 72 hours) out in the elements of a
late afternoon storm or in the cold(er) hours of the night.
Often the descents are made too late. After being exposed to
such an oxygen-deprived environment and, for those climbing
with supplemental oxygen, then running out of Os (or bottled
oxygen), the body has a greater chance of just giving up at
this point. The last camp (on the south side) is Camp IV and
from there it takes some 15-18 hours on average to return to
camp after reaching the summit. Therefore, climbers leave
Camp IV at about 11 p.m., summit by mid-day and then return
to Camp IV by mid to late afternoon.
Question:
The QuickTime VR pictures are truly amazing. The views are
spectacular and awe-inspiring. Thank you for providing this
opportunity to "participate" in your climb. However, in view
of the most recent deaths (as indicated by the
May 11 newsflash), do you think that some people, for which money is no
object, have started to take the risks of climbing Mt.
Everest too lightly? Making a summit attempt that late in
the day, and without bottled oxygen seems not only foolhardy
but indicative of a death wish. I am also somewhat surprised
by the number of climbing groups, and that the trails are so
well marked. Has a Mt. Everest climb become the "in thing"
to do for those with enough money to spend and who have let
their desire outweigh their common sense? I would very much
appreciate your thoughts on this subject.
K.A.
Response from David Breashears:
When desire outweighs common sense on Everest there is a
thin margin of success for those attempting the summit.
There have always been climbers with the life-long desire to
summit Everest, it's just the media that has brought this
mountain to the attention of the world in the recent past.
Unfortunately, the rise in the number of climbers on this
peak will only result in the increased numbers who fail (or
perish) on its summit. It's important to remember that
Everest has always had a mystique about it, where elite
climbers have come to attain the stature of bravery and
image of strength. Today, with guided climbing, ordinary
people can now reach that stature on the world's highest
peak.
Question:
As one of many who daily check on your progress and
experience Everest vicariously through you, best of luck for
a safe and fruitful climb! My question is this: what kind of
dreams have you had while climbing in such high altitudes
and stressful conditions? Are nightmares common?
Jacki Treml
Ann Arbor, MI
Response from David Breashears:
We can't really say we have nightmares. Our only nightmares
are waiting for the wind. We're sorry to report that we have
no mountaineering related nightmares.
Question:
Best of luck in your summit attempt, sending good thoughts
of safe journeys on Mt. Everest. My question: Do you get a
sense of peacefulness and calmness at that altitude. Feeling
closer to God or your sense of God? I hear your dreams can
be more vivid at that altitude. Do you experience that??
Thanks and safe journeys.
Jayne Gallion
Puyallup, WA
Response from David Breashears:
Response from David Breashears:
Yes, we have a much more relaxed feeling than we do at sea
level being away from the stresses of home. It's also so
debilitating at altitude that we do achieve a sense of
tranquillity up here.
Question:
I read a book detailing how Hillary and Norgay overcame what
is now known as the Hillary Step and it seemed quite a
challenge, especially in the thin air. He described how they
had to wedge themselves between rock and ice and inch their
way up. If it wasn't for all the fixed rope that now covers
this treacherous part of the climb, would "clients" be able
to summit Everest via the South Col Route?
Chris McElmeel
Wolverine Lake
Response from Pete Athans:
This part of the climb is notorious, but only about 25 to 30
feet high. While quite a piece of exposed climbing in the
1950's, it is a reasonable prospect in 1997. The fixed rope
makes moving more efficient.
Question:
Thank you for sharing your incredible experiences with the
world. Aside from the hazards of weather and altitude what
is the most technically difficult part of the mountain. Is
it the yellow band, Hillary step, or another ? Why angle of
accent, deep snow, avalanche danger, cornices, old rock,
etc.? You are all in our thoughts and prayers for a
successful summit and safe return.
Terry Thompson
San Diego, CA
Response from Pete Athans:
Technically, traversing from the South Summit to 100' above
Hillary Step is the most exposed, difficult spot.
Question:
What kind of dreams do you have? Do you find them more
vivid, peaceful, violent, spiritual? Do you ever wake up and
find yourself disoriented as to where you are? At times of
increased fatigue or stress I dream about college class
finals when I forgot to actually take the class, or that I
failed board exams, or that I couldn't complete a surgery.
Are any of you Eagle Boy Scouts.? Do you share a certain
faith? Best wishes.
Douglas K. Fenton, M.D.
La Costa, CA
Response from David Carter:
It's very rare that I have a dream at altitude. I do find
myself disorientated especially following an exhausting day.
Sometimes I'll wake up and not know where I am for a split
second and then I'll realize where I am. I am an Eagle
Scout.
Question:
This is truly incredible, to be able to follow your trek up
Mt. Everest. I enjoy reading your newsflashes and all the
questions and answers. My question concerns short-roping.
Can you tell me exactly what is happening when a person is
being short-roped? Is it like having a sling around you and
being pulled up by someone else? Or are you actually
carrying someone? Thank you and I wish the very best for you
all up there on that mountain.
Vivki Campos
San Antonio, TX
Response from Pete Athans:
Short roping simply means the distance between the two
climbers is less than 40 feet.
Question:
Greetings to David Carter: Hi Dave!!! You guys really have
to have patience waiting for your window of opportunity to
climb to the summit. I hope it is not a traffic jam.
Question: Has there ever been a year where the weather
conditions prevented any of the groups to summit? We all are
waiting for you to come home and know you will welcome the
comforts of your home in Arden.
Your family friend,
Nancy Wickstrand
Indianapolis, IN
Response from David Carter:
Yes, there have been many years that climbers have not
reached the summit due to weather and other circumstances.
We are concerned about all of the climbers possibly going up
on the same day to the summit. It is our hope to be one of
the first teams out of Camp IV, to be ahead of the crowds.
Question:
Hi, my name is McKenna and I am 11 years old. My dad, my
brother, and I have taken up the sport of cliff climbing and
I just received my first climbing harness for my 11th
birthday. Being a girl, I was wondering if there are many
female climbers on Everest? Have any of them made it to the
summit? Also, have you always liked to climb or did you
start out when you were adults? Good luck, stay safe, climb
on.
McKenna Wagner
Appleton, WI
P.S. How do you make yak tea?
Response from Pete Athans:
Stacy Allison and Peggy Luce were the first American women
to summit Everest. Stacy has written a book about her
adventure, that might be a good reference for you.
Response from Dr. Howard Donner:
Yak tea is made from essentially rancid Yak butter, salt and
black tea. It is not a favorite of ours here at Base Camp.
Question:
I have several questions regarding the Sherpas. Have they
been trained for mountain climbing? Do they need
supplemental oxygen or are they more acclimated to the
altitude? Do they make their yearly wages in the month or so
("window") that Everest can be climbed?
Good luck and have a safe journey.
Patty Patton
Columbus, Ohio
Response from Pete Athans:
Many Sherpas are trained at a facility in Manang Village in
the heart of the Annapurna region. They take an introductory
or advanced course which lasts a month. However, many learn
from other Sherpas or foreign mountaineers. Sherpas have
climbed without O2 to the
summit, but on the job they usually climb with it. Many
Sherpas work throughout the year on expeditions and treks.
Question:
What a fascinating journey! I have a few questions remaining
after spending several hours exploring this website. First,
are you able to shower after leaving Base Camp and if so,
how? Also, about the Sherpas...How much are the Sherpas paid
to do what they do? What do they do the other 10 months of
the year? Where do they live? Where do you find reliable
Sherpas? Do you outfit them with similar gear as you are
equipped with? Thanks and best of luck to you!
Jacki Treml
Ann Arbor, MI
Response from Pete Athans:
There are no showers above Base Camp. In the economy within
which Sherpas live they are paid handsomely. In less than a
week they make more than a Nepalese government employee
makes in a month. Many Sherpas work on treks and expeditions
eight months of the year. Some return to their villages for
farming or tending yak herds. Others, who have moved to
Kathmandu, operate shops with climbing and trekking
equipment for sale.
Question:
What is the actual trekking distance (not altitude) between
Base Camp, Camp I, Camp II, Camp III, Camp IV, and finally,
the summit? What are some sample lengths of time needed to
traverse each leg going uphill on, say, a good-weather day?
Dave Retzler
San Fransisco, CA
Response from Ed Viesturs:
The actual distance is not that great, it is the altitude
gain that is the most difficult part of the climb. We
usually measure the distance between the camps by time. Base
Camp to camp I is usually 2 1/2 to 5 hours depending on your
speed and strength. The time to Camp II is basically the
same. Camp II to Camp III is approximately 3-7 hours, Camp
III to Camp IV 4-8 hours, Camp IV to summit can be 8-12
hours.
Response from Pete Athans:
The linear distance between the camps is as follows: Base
Camp to Camp I is 2 miles, Camp I to Camp II is 2.5 miles,
Camp II to Camp III is 2.5 miles, Camp III to Camp IV is 1.5
miles. The time varies depending on the weather and
condition of the route.
Question:
Have the local authorities or organization of climbers
developed new high altitude rescue techniques since last
season? Are the number of "climbers" who pay to get to the
top of the world down? Best wishes from the children of the
Boys and Girls Clubs of West Virginia.
Response from Pete Athans:
There are probably no "new" rescue techniques, but after
last year's helicopter rescue success from Camp I, perhaps
local authorities are more confident about flying rescues.
There does not seem to be any dimunition of guided or
outfitted expeditions.
Question:
As editor of a magazine on workplace safety
(Australian Safety News), I'm interested to know how
you approach risk assessment and management. Congratulations
on your amazing adventure.
Simon Doctor
Sydney, Australia
Response from Pete Athans:
Each climber evaluates risk individually and chooses to
accept or reject the prospect of climbing, depending on
his/her tolerance.
Question:
How are you all doing? Is everything on schedule? I would
like to try to climb Everest but I only have one arm which
was an incident in my army career dec 1989! Could a disabled
person do it?
Good luck!
Thor Taylor
Hastings, Sussex, UK
Response from Pete Athans:
A one-armed climber was making the attempt this year, but
has returned unsuccessful. Tom Whittaker, a single amputee
(lower leg) will attempt Everest next year. Yes, it is
possible.
Question:
To the members of the Everest Expedition: We have been
following the 1997 Everest Expedition with great interest
and admiration for your courage and skills in undertaking
this great adventure. One of the things we noticed in the
photo by David Breashears on the Home Page, was the absence
of any belay ropes. Has anyone ever slipped off the ladder
while crossing the crevasse? It looks like this would be a
pretty tricky and dangerous maneuver while carrying a heavy
pack and wearing crampons! We both wish you the best of luck
and hope the high winds subside pretty soon so you can make
the summit attempt.
Roz and Jim Butler
Wayland MA
Response from Pete Athans:
You are correct in observing the problems crossing ladders.
Actually there are two protective ropes on either side that
a climber attaches his or her harness to.
Question:
Reading your descriptions of what is involved in washing
clothes, hair, etc., and the freezing results, I have
probably a very simple, practical question. How does
anything ever dry out?
Shirley Johnson
Topeka, Kansas
Response from Base Camp:
On a good day we will have enough sunshine to dry our
clothes while they hang from makeshift laundry lines strung
between tents. However, we frequently get snow showers in
the afternoon and have to bring our wet clothes in for the
night—sometimes it will take a few days until they are
dry.
Question:
Hi everyone. I hope all is well on the roof of the world.
I'm specifically interested in how you feel and what you do
when you reach the summit, in detail! Do you just take in
the view for a while and then head down? Do you go all quiet
and spiritual? Or are you overcome with emotion? Do you
laugh? Do you cry? Do you hold your arms in the air like an
athlete who has just won a race? Do you scream at the top of
your voice? Do you kiss the snow? Do you think of your loved
ones? Do you perhaps feel more humble and insignificant than
triumphant? Is it hard to leave after only half an hour? I'd
appreciate any feedback you can give me on this. Good luck
guys and thanks for this opportunity to interact.
Colin Sevitt
Sydney, Australia
Response from Base Camp:
Great questions—stayed tuned for our feature "Into the
Death Zone" which will give an in-depth look at the summit
day.
Question:
We are a 7th grade class from the Seattle area reading
Ullman's "Banner in the Sky." We have been following your
climb this year, and have read about the 1996 tragedy.
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How does Everest compare to the Alps? Have any of you
scaled the Matterhorn? How are they different?
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Obviously, peak physical conditioning is required. What do
you do during the off-season to prepare for the rigors of
working out in such thin air?
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What does yak tea taste like? Hummm hummm good, we bet!
Best of luck to you all- we look forward to seeing the IMAX
film!
John Mejlaender
Carnation, WA
Response from Base Camp:
On average the Himalayan mountains are much taller than the
Alps. Because of the high altitude in the Himalayan
mountains the conditions can be extreme and more challenging
for climbing. There are also huge areas that are
uninhabitable because of the altitude.
Please look at former responses to how our climbers train
for their climbing expeditions.
Some yak cheese can be very stinky while other types are
mild and can be quite good.
Question:
Dave Carter:
Although the combination of deep snow and high winds
temporarily prevented the Indonesians from making an attempt
on the summit, does the aftermath of such a storm
drastically raise the potential for an avalanche? And if
so... how long does this period of additional risk last?
What additional precautions can be taken to avoid
catastrophe? Hope this topic isn't taboo!?!? Anyway, it's
been great to follow your trek. Good Luck Dude!
Chris Striebeck
Indianapolis, IN
Response from David Carter:
As of now, there is no real avalanche danger, but in the
icefall there is always the potential for a serac fall. Keep
following me on the web and i'll buy you a beer when I get
back to Indy.
Question:
Dear Climbers,
Hi! I am Staci, I am 12, almost
13! The school I go to is following you, we hooked up the
T.V. to the computer and are writing questions! Well here's
my question: What do you people do on your spare time?
Staci Flajole
Carnation, WA
Response from Base Camp:
During our spare time at Base Camp we rest, read, hang out
with our friends and recuperate our energy for our climb.
Question:
I was wondering if you had any difficulties with
route-finding in the Khumbu Icefall. Is the water safe to
drink out of the streams or do you treat it? Is Lhotse
within reach from Base Camp to climb (within a day or two of
trekking). A question for Ed Viesturs: Has he made any
outstanding times between camps like he did with Scott
Fischer on K2 in 1992? (7500 feet in one day). Have stable
weather!
Taylor Woodward
Richaland, WA
Response from Base Camp:
The Icefall is considered by some the most dangerous part of
the route due to falling ice. Throughout a given season the
route may be reset in certain sections because of the
movement in the glacier.
Our main source for water at Base Camp is a frozen pond at
the base of the Lho La (which is a huge glacial pass to
Tibet). For our expedition alone, our kitchen staff carries
30-35 liter-loads of water each day. This water is boiled
for purification.
Question:
Dear Climbers,
Have any of your team members gotten hurt yet? Do you think
any of you will get hurt? How would you take care of the
injured people?
Sincerely,
The 7th grade
Garden Valley, Idaho
Response from Base Camp:
All of climbers are feeling strong and are in good health.
In the event of any injuries we have a doctor, Howard
Donner, at Base Camp. When the climbers are on the mountain
they always have a medical kit with them.
Question:
I see by today's Newsflash that there will be strong winds
at the summit and that this will make the trek even more
difficult. I moved from Phoenix, AZ to Iowa City to attend
graduate school and found the Iowa winter to be a terrible
shock. The winds were strong and the temperature (incl.
windchill) that first winter hung around minus 80 for a long
time. Last winter we had a week where temperatures, with no
winds were at about -20 during the day. My question is this:
Will the winds at the summit be strong enough to actually
"move" or "push" your bodies, and what impact will the winds
have on temperature?
Best Wishes,
Michelle Rhoades
Dept. of History, University of Iowa
Response from Base Camp:
Our most recent five-day forecast show the winds ranging
from 5-55 kph, the corresponding temperatures range from -19
F. To -38 F. Climbers generally choose not to climb in winds
that will buffet their bodies. If they are caught up high in
strong winds, they will usually turn around for safety
reasons.
Question:
I have been tracking your progress and things seen to be
going according to plan. However, I am curious about the
large numbers of climbers and the limited means of access to
the mountain. I assume there are other routes to the summit
of Everest. Do all expeditions take the same route and are
there other potential routes for expeditions?
Walter Lagarenne
Summerville, SC
Response from Pete Athans:
60% of all climbers take the South Col route. Approximately
30% attempt the climb via the North Col. There are about 12
routes on Everest but these two see the most traffic.
Question:
I am over 40 years old. For the older guys how long did it
take you to get in shape for your climb. Best of luck.
Brad Reeder
Mesa, AZ
Response from Pete Athans:
We maintain a high level of fitness, aerobic and anaerobic
activity. We did not specifically train for this expedition
but 12 previous Everest expeditions have put us in good
shape for the climb up Everest.
Question:
Over the years the mountain has claimed all too many lives.
Are there many who have never been found and recovered?
Also, is there anyway to predict the weather on the mountain
with any degree of certainty so you will not get caught in
life threatening circumstances? Good luck everyone. You all
have my utmost respect for your courage and fortitude in the
face of that very spectacular and awesome mountain.
John Rogers
Charleston, WV
Response from David Carter:
Yes, especially in the Icefall. We get weather updates from
England on a daily basis that give us a five day projection.
We always take a conservative approach regarding scheduling
for the summit attempt.
Question:
What is the difference between climbing the north side and
the south side of Everest. Also I watched Turning Point last
night, it was about the climbers who were trapped on Everest
last year but it did not say if the bodies of the climbers
who died were recovered or will they be. Good luck on your
quest and stay safe. (AND WARM)
O.G. Bizeau
Gladstone, MI
Response from Ed Viesturs and Pete Athans
The North Side of Everest is windier and more technical the
higher up you go. There are no plans to evacuate any of the
bodies from last year as it is extremely difficult to move
them due to the high altitude and technical terrain. We will
try to cover them or move them somewhere out of the way in a
respectful fashion.
Question:
Thank you for sharing your experiences on the net. In
reading previous responses, I noted that you may only stay
at the summit for 30 minutes or so depending on time and,
I'm sure, weather. Is it difficult to spend so much time
preparing and climbing only to be there for such a short
time? Is it hard to turn around and go back down given that
you have achieved what so few people will ever achieve? Are
you tempted to celebrate in some fashion just as you reach
the summit or is the celebration mental? Best wishes to you
and I look forward to following you the rest of the way.
I'll bet the view sure beats Kansas.
Deb Snellen
Leawood, Kansas
Response from Ed Viesturs
No. Getting to the summit is only part of the process. As a
matter of fact, getting to the top is optional. Getting down
is mandatory. You don't totally celebrate until every last
person is off the mountain.
Question:
Our class was wondering if it was difficult being away from
your families for such a long period of time? Are you able
to keep in touch with them?
Gayle McLaughlin
Bethlehem, PA
Response from Ed Viesturs and Pete Athans
Yes, it is hard. We feel guilty that we are away so long. We
have been in touch with our families via telephone and
e-mail but it is a poor substitute.
Question:
First of all, great website. It can't be easy for you to put
the time in for this after a hard day on the mountain. It is
greatly appreciated. I have a question for Ed. Are you
climbing w/o supplemental oxygen as you have done so many
times before? Were you picked for these tests because of
your ability to adapt above 8000m? How about Dave? If you
are w/o oxygen, how do your clients on the ACL team feel
about you guiding them under these conditions? Lastly, is
Mr. Boukreev guiding the Indonesians w/o oxygen? The best of
luck and weather to all of you. Oh yeah, give Childum, Ang
Tshering, Ang Dorje and most of all, Guy, a big hug and
Namaste! from me. Thanks and take care.
Robert Stevens
Turlock, CA
Response from Ed Viesturs
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Since I am guiding for Adventure Consultants this year, I
am climbing with supplemental oxygen. I have always been
adamant about guiding with oxygen on Everest for safety
and liability reasons. When I am guiding, I am there for
my clients and not for my own personal goals. I find that
with oxygen I tend to be warmer and if any situation would
arise I believe that I would be stronger and more capable
of assisting others in need.
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Part of the reason I was selected for these tests is that
I tend to do very well at altitude. The scientists wanted
to compare myself with David Breashears and David Carter
to see whether our bodies behave differently.
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I do not know whether Anatole Boukreev was guiding with or
without oxygen this year.
Question:
Winters here in eastern Kansas can be quite cold, with
strong winds and associated high wind chill factors. I have
tried to bicycle and exercise in subfreezing temperatures
using different clothing layers, but have always been
uncomfortable due to perspiration soaking the inner layers
of clothing, especially when my level of exertion decreases
i.e. when I coast down hills or stop at intersections. Based
on the heart and breathing rates you have reported, you are
working quite hard on the mountain. Would you please
describe the clothing you wear; how it is layered; what
fabrics are used; how it is invented; what skin level
temperature you consider comfortable? Basically, how is your
clothing designed to handle the problems created by varying
wind speeds and air temperatures and the resulting
perspiration you generate while you are climbing and working
around the camp? How would you define "toasty and warm" with
respect to the level of comfort you can achieve in these
conditions?<
Thanks,
Robert Potty
Overland Park, KS
Response from Pete Athans:
Basically we utilize several layers of synthetics
(insulative) underneath an outer layer skin of windproof
(shell) fabrics. The inner layers wick moisture to the
outside and, theoretically, through the outer wind layer. On
the summit day, we climb in down one piece suits with
synthetic layers beneath. We don't have significant
"coasting" periods similar to cycling; our output is more
constant. Further, we use supplemental oxygen which greatly
increases warmth and metabolic well-being. We try to avoid
perspiring by regulating layers closest to the skin. "Toasty
and warm" means perfectly regulated temperatures that
is—no net gain or loss—containment of heat.
Question:
Hello! My husband and I are tracking the climb on the
Internet for both personal interest and we are friends of
Dave Carter. Thank you for providing this opportunity! We
were wondering what makes the two weeks in May the ideal
time for attempting the summit. We assume it is weather
related. What factors make this time ideal and what are the
possibilities other times of the year? Thanks for providing
a wonderful educational opportunity for so many.
Our thoughts and prayers,
Susan Sveen
Fisher, IN
Response from David Carter:
This time of year is ideal because it is pre- and
post-monsoon season. There is also less chance of avalanche
danger than there is in the fall.
Question:
Are there times when climbers have reached the summit and
have not been able to experience the heavenly view because
of poor visibility? If and when this happens, is it because
of unexpected bad weather? Thank you for this opportunity to
participate. Take care of yourselves and each other.
Laura Woolley
Ann Arbor, MI
Response from Pete Athans:
Yes. Yes. Thanks for writing.
Question:
What are the highest and lowest temperature, and the highest
wind speed? Good Luck and come home safe.
Lloyd E. Young
Greenfield, IN
Response:
Temperatures on the mountain can range from the extreme of
-40 F. to the more standard temperatures of -10 F. The winds
for the next five days on the summit are projected to reach
a maximum speed of 70 mph.
Question:
First, congratulations to the Indonesian team on their
successful summit bid. I noticed they reached the summit
after 3PM and one member turned around due to the degrading
weather. Were they in any eminent danger? In light of the
fact that most deaths occur on the descent from the summit
and especially given last year's tragedy does there seem to
be an added emphasis on turn around times and safety in
general? Did the Indonesian team have a turn around time? It
would be a shame if nothing was learned from last year's
events. Good luck to everyone!
Sincerely,
Kent B.
Woodland Hills, CA
Response from Ed Viesturs
Apparently there did not seem to be an added emphasis on
turn around times in the Indonesian team's case. They wound
up having to spend the night at an emergency Camp 5 because
they were descending very late. Some people seem not to have
learned much from what happened last year.
Question:
To David Carter:
First of all, my daughter, Michele is in Mrs. Russell's
second grade class at Smoky Row Elementary. They have been
following your expedition and have gotten me hooked. The
Star did an article on your expedition and their class in
today's paper. I have learned so much from reading your
e-mail responses and the newsflashes. I really appreciate
the extra effort that this takes you. It certainly has
brought the possibility of having great adventures right
into our living room, but in a very realistic way. My
question is, I noticed that your list of food included an
awful lot of sugar...wouldn't instant protein type foods be
better fuel than quick burning sugars like snickers bars? I
noticed that the teams doing the Artic crossing last year
had more success when they changed their diet to include
better protein lower fat foods. Have you considered
consulting a nutritionist about how diet changes could
improve your climb? Thanks again for bringing us along on
this climb. Michele's class is hoping that David will be
able to visit when he returns.
Yours,
The Pieples family
Carmel, IN
Response from David Carter:
We eat a lot of pasta. For lunch today, we had rice and
lentils (dal bhat). We also eat a lot of carbohydrates and
fresh vegetables. While climbing, sugar products are easily
metabolized for energy. I am also taking multi-vitamins.
Question:
I know that there is usually only a small window of
opportunity in which the summit of Everest can be reached.
With so many climbers on the mountain how do you decide
which teams will be eligible to attempt a summit bid during
the "window"? There isn't a lot of time to spend waiting in
line when you get above 26,000 feet. Thanks for sharing your
adventure with the world and good luck!
Renny Sumprun
Austin, TX
Response:
It is up to the individual teams, based on their
acclimitization schedules, to decide when they feel ready to
make a summit attempt.
Question:
To David Breashears, We are all watching the ascent and
thinking of you. Thank you for helping us get Turning Point.
Do you have any comments on what makes a successful leader
of an expedition? We are exploring concepts of leadership,
and wondered if you had input. Thank you. Take care.
Virginia Squier
Jackson, WY
Response from David Breashears:
An expedition leader is only as good as his team. The first
priority is to choose good people to surround yourself
with—a good sirdar, a good sherpa climbing staff, a
good cook staff and of course strong and talented expedition
members. Other important attributes include communication,
delegation and trust in your team.
Question:
What do you do when nature calls during the climb? Good Luck
From all our science class students!
Elizabeth Vera
National City, CA
Response from David Breashears:
Pete and I are both using 'pee bottles' in our tent. You
have to be careful not to mix up your pee bottle with your
drinking bottle. During the climb, you have to undo the leg
loops on your harness and then work your way through the
many layers that you may have on.
Question:
1. The task of route setting through the ice fall and on up
is dangerous, extremely critical and consumes precious
energy. Who (generally) is selected for this and how are
they selected?
2. There have been many articles on the large increase of
inexperienced climbers buying their way onto Everest and
creating very dangerous conditions. One article said that
after the deaths a few years ago, the quantity of people
allowed was reduced from 300 that year to 240 the following
year (last year I think). Your newsflash has said you have
400 this year. What is the experience levels in general? How
does this relate to safety on the mountain this year? And
how is the team vs team hierarchy (climbing order, decision
making, etc.) managed?
Response from Pete Athans:
Thanks and good luck!
Eric Stiverson
San Diego, CA
Response from David Breashears:
In this day and age of 10 expeditions on Everest and 3-4
expeditions on Lhotse that share the same route, there's a
designated team that fixes the route. This year we have 50
8-foot sections of ladders for crossing crevasses. We all
contribute toward the cost of fixing and maintaining the
Icefall.
The team vs team climbing hierarchy is mostly survival of
the fittest and who is ready to go at certain times. We have
already addressed the issue of inexperienced climbers in a
previous email response. The overcrowding issue is
definitely a problem. I would say that 10% of the climbers
on the mountain are of expert ability, not including the
Sherpas, 30% have some previous Himalayan experience, and
60% are relatively inexperienced and unlikely to be able to
take care of themselves in a severe storm or an emergency.
Response from Pete Athans:
At least 50% of the people climbing this mountain are not on
commercial expeditions, meaning they're outfitted, and are
supposed to be looking after themselves.
Question:
My experience climbing at altitude is limited to 14,400 feet
on Mt. Ranier. The climb up Everest, even under ideal
climbing conditions, must be the ultimate physical and
mental challange for most who attempt it. My question for
you is how much more demanding would it be to "quick climb"
Everest as Reinhold Messner did while becoming the first
person to reach the summit of all the worlds 8000 meter
peaks?.
Tom Folts
Broadalbin, NY
Response from David Breashears:
We assume you are referring to Messner's solo climb on the
north side in 1980, not his climb with Peter Habeler without
supplemental oxygen in 1978 which was a normal
expedition-style climb ... It's not easy to do what Messner
did. There's a half a dozen people in the world who can do
what he did. For us mere mortals out here, expedition
climbing is the way to go. Doing what Messner did is very
risky, he was alone, he had no fixed ropes. His was an
ultimate adventure for an ultimate mountaineer.
Question:
Hello, to you on top of the world. The scenery has to be
truly breathtaking (pardon the pun) around you and I cannot
even begin to imagine what the view is like once you make it
to the top. I am an avid hiker/backpacker and of course high
energy food is extremely important which I would think would
be even more critical for you. What types of foods are you
consuming particularly when you reach altitudes over 20,000
feet and do you try to do a lot of cooked foods?
Jim Shireman
Greenwood, Indiana
Response:
High energy food: We have Snickers bars, M&Ms, cheese,
beef jerky, tuna fish, ramen noodles, soups, chocolate bars,
corn nuts, cookies, dried milk, cold cereal, oatmeal,
salami, biscuits.
Cooked food: We have our favorite 'gag in a bag' meals like
lasagna, turkey dinners, hawaiian chicken, beef stroganoff,
mac and cheese, beans and franks, scalloped potatoes, green
beans, etc.
Question:
Is the footing all ice all the way to the top of the
mountain? Or does part of the mountain becomes water from
the daytime sun? Good luck and keep a close eye on each
other.
George Wild
Montvale, NJ
Response:
Ice and snow top to bottom, except 100 feet in the Yellow
Band. No water.
Question:
Has the increased numbers on the mountain led to
deterioration of safety for all? I was amazedby stories of
traffic jams along the fixed lines.Having climbed at
altitude, I realize there is a fine line between teamwork
and individual ability which may not always be easy to
define.Would increased profits for a guide mean increased
liability for all others in that setting? Everest is clearly
not a place for tourists with the budget but lacking the
skills or experience. But who is checking resumes at the
door?
Wishing you all the best.
Scott Kriscenski
Boston, MA
Response from Pete Athans and David Breashears
It certainly has increased the responsibility for other
teams with rescues or assisting injured people. It's not the
same as it was when there was 1 team per route on the
mountain. Increased numbers doesn't mean the route is
unsafe. It's just that with more people comes more
inexperience, and therein lies the problem. Nobody's
checking resumes at the door, obviously. To the Nepalese
Ministry of Tourism one climber is as good as another. They
shouldn't be the ones to make that decision. As far as your
comment about increased profits for guides ... as usual it
depends on the guide and the reward. Life is a balance
between risk and reward. Guides up here tend to be very
conservative especially in light of what happened to Rob
Hall and Scott Fischer.
Question:
I think NOVA's Alive on Everest effort is just terrific. It
allows us ordinary folk to vicariously experience a
dangerous yet beautiful place. I do have a question for the
mountaineers though. For most people, climbing Mount Everest
is practically impossible. Are there any activities closer
to home and more accessible to the general public that give
you similar rewards or experiences? How does climbing Mount
Everest compare to climbing other peaks? Is there no
comparison?
James Kao
Cambridge, MA
Response from Base Camp:
There are many other great peaks in the world which present
equal or greater technical challenges than Everest. While no
longer the sina qua non of mountaineering challenges,
Everest is the highest and it is the lack of oxygen at its
great elevation that differentiates it from lesser peaks.
Question:
Hi guys! We heard there has been a lot of late snowfall in
the Khumbu this year. Have climbing schedules changed as a
result? What do the other expedition groups think of your
web access and the media attention it is bringing to
basecamp? How many groups are climbing and what countries
are they from? How will the groups determine summit
bid/attempt dates? Best Wishes to all teams this year!
Erin Kittleman
Response from Base Camp:
Snowfall in the Khumba has not been a problem. We have had
snow flurries in the late afternoon. It really has been a
dry year. There are a lot of people on the mountain this
year. There are about nine teams. I would say that there are
a lot of people on the mountain this year. There are about
nine teams. I would say that there are more than 150 people
on the route this year.
David Carter
Of the nine or so expeditions at Base Camp, several of them
have web sites of their own. We know that the Malaysians
have 7 satellite phones and a web site. Our neighbors, the
Colliers Lotus Everest Expedition, also have their own web
site at www.everest97.com.
Question:
I am 9 years old and my daddy who is 40 years old wants me
to climb Mt. Everest with him. Do you know how old I should
be to try this, and do you know who the youngest person to
summit was? My dad wants to know if there are any MRI
studies of the brain after repetitive exposures to high
altitudes. He hopes the participants will have post-climb
MRI's that will be reported. My 7 year old brother wants to
know if you have "Game-Boys" along! My mothers says be
careful.
Nicole Fenton
Response from Base Camp:
We believe the youngest person to have summited Everest was
a 17-year-old French student who summited in October of 1990
with his father, Jean Noel Roche. They were also the first
father-son team to reach the top.We don't think there are
any MRI brain studies that have been done on climbers who
have had repetitive exposures to altitude. Our climbers have
had pre-climb MRI scans and will also have scans done after
the climb. Sorry to say we don't have any "Game Boys" along.
Question:
To Thomas Hornbein: I bought your book,
Everest, The West Ridge many years ago. It continues
to be one of my favorites. The photographs are spectacular.
I have traveled up Everest in my mind through these photos.
My Question. How long do you stay on the summit, and what
will you leave there and why? Best of luck to all of you.
Thank you for bringing this experience to the Web.
Rob Carley
Response from Base Camp:
Climbers generally stay on the summit for a limited amount
of time only (on average about half an hour), as the climb
down to Camp IV can take 4-6 hours and climbers don't want
to get caught out after dark. We will leave nothing on the
summit, as we want to leave it as pristine as we found it.
Question:
We thank you for returning our e-mail question from my sixth
grade geography class at Holley-Navarre Middle School. We
would like to ask you some more questions!!! What are you
eating on the trip and how are you keeping it from freezing?
When do you expect to return to base camp? Has anyone been
injured? How do you stay warm? How long will you stay at the
summit? Best of luck to all of you. Looking forward to
hearing from you again!!!
Barbara Legee
Santarosa, FL
Response from Base Camp:
The food we are eating up here is a combination of local
food brought up from the lowlands by porter or yak
(potatoes, cabbage, cauliflower, tomatoes, greens, garlic,
onions, rice and lentils). We augment those local foods with
food that we brought from the United States: pasta, pasta
sauces, snack foods, condiments like mustard and ketchup,
cheeses, crackers, etc. Tomatoes, carrots, potatoes, etc
inevitably arrive frozen and we make do with sorry looking
vegetables. The constant freeze/thaw/freeze process here
generally hasn't hurt any of our food. David and Pete will
return to Base Camp from Camp III on the 26th. Ed and Carter
have already been to Camp III and will go up for
acclimatization one more time. They leave on the 26th. To
date, no one on our team has been injured, just a few minor
illnesses. Okay, I admit, I (Liesl) did slip on some ice
this morning while carrying the laptop from my tent to the
dining tent. Both knees hit hard on a glacial rock, BUT I
SAVED THE LAPTOP! How do we stay warm? Warm clothes and
sleeping bags. That's the secret. When the sun disappears
behind a cloud the temperature plummets and we layer up with
warm clothing like down coats and capilene long underwear.
Question:
To David Carter (and team): All of us in Indianapolis wish
all of you safety, good weather, and God speed as you make
your way to the top of the Earth. It is great to be able to
follow your progress in real time. My question is which
component do you consider more challenging: the physical or
the mental? We look forward to your safe return and
compliment all of you on the advancement you are making to
science and mountaineering.
Garry Rollins
Indianapolis, IN
Response from Base Camp:
Climbing Everest is certainly both a physical and mental
challenge and the two are inseparable. To put one foot in
front of the other up in the thin air beyond 26,000 feet is
a physical barrier that takes some mental discipline.
Without the mind, the body would ultimately give up and just
turn back down the mountain. Of course, there are the
natural fears for one's safety and survival when climbing on
Everest and the anxiety caused by not mastering those fears
is much more debilitating than the physical effort of
climbing the mountain.
Question:
We are a sixth grade geography class at Holley- Navarre
Middle School in Florida. We are following your quest to the
summit of Mt. Everest. We wish you lots of luck. Our
question, today, is once you reach the summit, how will you
get back down? And are you Americans?
Barbara Legee
Holley-Navarre Middle School, Florida
Response from Base Camp:
Once we reach the summit, we will turn around and climb back
down the same route we came up. It will take us
approximately 4-6 hours to climb down to Camp IV at 26,000
feet where we'll sleep and then the next day begin our
descent down to Camp III and so forth. David Breashears, Ed
Viesturs, Pete Athans, and David Carter are all Americans
and Jangbu Sherpa is from Nepal.
Question:
Do any of the climbers have a sense that perhaps they have
crossed this path before, assuming none of them have
knowingly made this journey in the past?
Christopher H. Johnston
Minneapolis, MN
Response from Base Camp:
All of our climbers have made this journey, knowingly, in
the past and are back to climb Everest again for many
different reasons, one of which is the quest to understand
what is happening to them physiologically at altitude.
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