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Responses and Comments Technology/Equipment
May 29, 1997
Question:
I am overwhelmed with the number and quality of questions
and responses coming from the climbing team and base camp
(BC) support group. Do you keep all the info flow in
electronic form? If you were to print out all the
communications, BC would be a massive clutter of paper and
used supplies. Usually camping requires a major plan to
conserve resources to the very minimum. Does having a yak
train and lots of porters mean that you can plan a 3 month
stay at the base of Everest to have lots more amenities than
you would if you were hauling the materials yourself? Do you
hear the cry go out each day that "The 12:52 yak train is
arriving on Path 7?" How do you decide what records to keep
for later film production out of the massive flow of
information that you have established at BC?
Peter B. Clark
Hamilton, MA
Response from Liesl Clark:
Hey, great last name. Yes, we do keep all information
flowing in electronic form as we have to respond to the
e-mails and then retransmit them back to NOVA. We also print
out all of the e-mails, which results in about 15
pages-worth of cut and pasted e-mails every two days or so.
It's nice for those who are unable to hover around our two
laptops to be able to read the e-mails on a hard copy and
then respond in ink. Associate Producer Kate Churchill and I
then type them up. Our resources are conserved to a relative
minimum, but since we're producing a live web site, we need
to have laptops, satellite phone, printer and paper for
that. Our 'office supplies' are confined to two medium size
cases. Yes, having yaks and porters enables us to carry in
much more than we would if we were to carry these things in
ourselves. For example, I would've immediately nixed the
three hole punch if I knew I had to carry it in on my own
back. The CD player and stash of CDs from home certainly
helps for ambiance up here, too. Yaks do come and go,
carrying in local foods (sometimes even beer), but we only
see the large "trains" when an expedition is moving in our
moving out of Base Camp. To answer your question of how do
we decide what records to keep for later film
production—we keep all records. Basically all info is
stored in the computers in a folder called "get high" aka
"going higher." We then have folders for camera notes, sound
notes, climbers' e-mail (in and out) from the Web site,
personal e-mail, research, newsflashes, text for the
website, still photo logs, digital images, images
transmitted by sat phone, pulse oximeter readings,
transcriptions of all interviews conducted on digital audio
tapes here, vital statistics of the climbers at various
camps on the mountain, notes on the neuro-behavioral tests
we're giving, etc. All of this info will be useful (and
imperative) for the film.
Question:
I am in the film business and living in Minnesota we have
shot in a lot of extreme conditions. Obviously nothing comes
close to the conditions on Everest. My question is how do
you recharge your batteries ?? Do you bring enough to last
the entire trip ? How many rolls of film do you bring up
above Camp III? And, on the IMAX expedition how much footage
did you actually shoot in these higher camps ? I cannot
imagine reloading that camera in those conditions !!! Please
comment and I wish you a safe trip and no hairs in the gate.
S.C.
Minnesota
Response from David Breashears:
We had specially designed lithium batteries. Three of these
batteries powered the camera for the entire expedition. They
are disposable and non-rechargeable. In the course of the
expedition we shot 120 rolls of large-format film. The real
challenge of filming IMAX on Everest is that 500 feet of
film only lasts 90 seconds.
Question:
WOW! What can I say? What you folks are doing is awesome! I
have "been there with you" through your use of QuickTime VR
and I must say the work you are doing to bring this
experience to the world is appreciated VERY much! All of us
here at Apple Computer wish you a safe and productive
journey to the top of our world! What sort of photography
equipment are you using and how are you processing the QTVR
movies? Are you doing this on-site up there?
Thanks!
David Palermo
QuickTime VR Evangelist
Apple Computer, Inc.
Response from Base Camp:
Funny you should ask....we have two Apple QuickTake cameras
(loaned by Apple) that we're using for our digital imagery
that we transmit via satellite phone and a Powerbook 1400C
(also loaned by Apple). The QuickTime VR nodes are shot on a
Nikon 35mm camera with a tripod and a special QTVR rotator
head. We send the film out immediately by runner from Base
Camp who throws the film on a helicopter in Lukla within a
day (or two) and then the shipment is sent via DHL to NOVA
in Boston where the film is processed and our extremely
creative Technical Director, also known as the world's
greatest QTVR stitcher (check out our site on the
Pyramids of Giza), Annie
Valva, works around the clock to get those 360s up for you
as soon as possible.
Question:
Are you connected anyway to satellites or weather service to
help protect you from dangerous weather or is that
impossible? Are there any weather stations on the mountain?
best of luck-it is unfortunate that the climbs on the
mountain have become news worthy because of the tragedy last
year and now this new situation with those reported deaths.
Cheryl Popielasz
Mt. Airy, Maryland
Response from Pete Athans:
We receive sophisticated weather reports every other day
from a UK organization that specializes in winds at 24,000'
and 29,000'. Thanks for your concern.
Question:
David, Glad to hear you are back on the mountain.
Tomorrow night is the NY section of AAC film festival ...
understand we have a "tease" of your IMAX that is going to
be shown. Looking forward to it. Curious what the various
expeditions are doing for weather forecasts this year? Good
luck on the climb.
Sincerely,
Joe Witte
New York, New York
Response from Base Camp:
We do not know what the other expeditions are doing for
their weather forecasts. We receive a daily forecast from a
UK organization that specializes in upper air forecasts for
the Himalayan region.
Question:
Hello! I'm not a climber myself but I've been reading a lot
of books and checking the web site and have become intensely
interested in your Everest expedition. My question is pretty
simple. How do you know the way? I realize that you keep
going up but I imagine that the landscape must change with
the ice and wind and snow. Is this true? What sort of
navigational tools do you have? Good luck, my thoughts are
with you! I really admire your courage and determination.
Mellisa Rinehart
Akron, OH
Response from Base Camp:
The traditional Southeast route on Everest is well-travelled
and easy to find: through the Icefall ropes and ladders and
the well-trodden route will show you the way; the same would
go for the Western Cwm. Its well-trodden route is hard to
avoid as the Lhotse Face is mostly fixed with ropes.
Climbers work their way up without having to use compasses.
Beyond Camp IV we believe it is best for climbers to always
have a compass with them in case they get caught in
white-out conditions or the dark.
As Mal Duff's expedition Sherpas have for the past few years
set the route through the Icefall, there has been little
chance for first-timers to get lost in the labyrinth. The
first climbers to go through the Western Cwm in a given
season have to set the ladders across the many crevasses
that traverse the high mountain valley.
Question:
Hello from the Pacific Northwest! My 7th grade class is
following your progress with great interest. They are
curious how many e-mails you are receiving? Nationally?
Internationally? This has been so exciting for them- they
are going home and doing all kinds of research. Also- what
does yak tea taste like? hang in there! Russell Coney says
hello to Todd Burleson!
Carnation, WA
Response from Dr. Howard Donner:
We are overwhelmed with e-mails and try our best to answer
them on a daily basis. Most of our mail comes from the
United States, but we do receive mail from all over the
world; for example, today we received mail from Italy.
Yak tea is not a favorite of ours here at base camp, we
prefer hot lemon or milk tea.
Comment:
I didn't know that a computer would withstand that much cold
and still work, or it is there heat to warm them up? (I know
this sounds odd, normally we'd want them cool). As for the
climb, you guys have more guts than I have desire of having
to have. Scared of heights! But I do think it would be cool!
That picture of using a ladder to cross a gorge, not me, no
way no how!!! (saw it on PBS Online). Best of luck, and may
God be with you all.
David Gruesbeck
Alma, MI
Response:
Once the sun hits our communication tent, the computers
usually are warm enough to function properly. When it is
really cold, we keep the computers warm in our sleeping bags
at night. In extreme cases we have had to put the computer
batteries in a Ziploc bag and boil them.
Question:
Hi David! I am a sports still photographer. I wish I was up
there with you! Photographing on Everest must be the
ultimate but incredibly difficult. I would like to know what
lenses, filters and type of film you are using for your
still photography. I'm sure you must have numerous backup
bodies as well (what a drag if something decides to break
down)! I was also wondering, after many trips to 'the top of
the world' and despite the journey getting there, has it
been the same experience for you emotionally once you are
sitting on the top. It must be an incredible feeling that
can only be experienced. Thanks so much for letting us on
this journey with you!!!!!!
Tracey Frankel<
Encinitas, CA
Response from Liesl Clark
Most of the photography that we have been shooting for our
website has been shot on 35mm Provia 100 still film. I use a
Nikon 8008 and my lens package includes a 28mm, 35-70mm, and
80-200mm lens. All f2.8 is always preferable. We are also
using Apple QuickTake digital cameras, which we love. We
send the cameras up with the climbers. The climbers are able
to send down the RAM cards that cache up to 40 images which
we download and then transmit back to WGBH the same day.
Question:
I am curious what kind of sleeping bag and tent you have. I
also would like to know what other kind of special gear you
have. How may layers of clothes do you have to wear every
day? Also how do you cook your food, and doesn't your water
freeze? Thank you and good luck
Corono, CA
Response from David Breashears:
I use Mountain Hardwear gear at Base Camp and on the
mountain. Up high, I also have a down suit. We generally
wear Goretex outer layers for Camp III and below and use
polypro close to the skin for its ability to wick away
moisture. At night, I sleep with my water bottles so they
don't freeze.
Question:
What a wonderful opportunity this is for ordinary people to
follow your progress on this amazing expedition. Our
question is: exactly what do you wear on your feet while
climbing? Do you have to wear boots, crampons, or snow
shoes? Do you know approximately how deep the snow is when
you're walking on top of it? If you don't have the proper
equipment on, would you sink out of site or do you tie each
other together with ropes?
Wishing you all a safe passage.
The Wante family
Littleton, NH
Response from David Carter:
We wear plastic double boots with insulite liners and
crampons while climbing. The snow is fairly firm right now
on the mountain. You would only sink if you fell into a
crevasse.
Question:
Greetings from sunny Arizona! I would like to know from
which spot on the mountain that you are last able to report
back to the outside world via e-mail on the status of the
crew, climb, conditions, etc. and approximately what date
that might be. Also, how do you physically get to the
starting point, i.e., do you hike in, bus in, helicopter,
etc. and what destination is considered the starting point??
Best of luck to you all!!
Mark, Debbi, Cody and Kaley
Scottsdale, Arizona.
Response from Pete Athans:
Our starting point is Lukla (8000'), an airstrip and
village. From Lukla it takes us abut a week to walk up to
Base Camp (17,6000). We can report from the summit via radio
(walkie-talkie) to Base Camp and our crew there sends our
news out via e-mail.
Question:
My question is, what is the size and weight of the equipment
that allows you to receive & send E-mail messages and
how far up the mountain do you plan to take it? I'm amazed
with the level of technology that allows us to do this.
Good Luck ! ! !
Victor Winstead
York, PA
Response:
We transmit all of our e-mail from base camp (17,600') via
an Apple Computer laptop (5300cs or a 1400c) and a satellite
telephone. All of the news from the higher camps is
transmitted to us via walkie talkie.
Question:
Hello to David Carter,
I grew up with you in Sylvan Ridge. I know that many
Hoosiers, myself included, are praying for your safe return.
I wondered if this climb was any easier, either mentally or
physically, because of your earlier climb on Everest? Also,
how far up the mountain are the laptops going? And, what
kind of computer equipment is there?
Nancy Johnson Heck
Carmel, Indiana
Response from David Carter:
Dear Nancy,
Yes. The climb is a lot easier because of my earlier attempt
on Everest. This time I know what to expect and it makes
things much easier for me. Mentally, I'm not as stressed as
I was in 1991. The computers live full time at Base Camp. We
are currently using two Apple Powerbook computers (one is a
1400c and the other is a 5300cs) that connect daily to our
satellite phone so that we can download all the e-mail
coming into our site. Thanks for your support.
All the best,
Dave Carter
Question:
How much equipment must be carried to each camp to get you
to the top? How many climbers are making the final summit
assault? Vaya con Dios!
M. Reidy
Response from David Carter:
Equipment carried to each camp will consist of food, fuel,
personal gear and oxygen. It is too early to get a number of
climbers that will be on the final push to the summit.
Question:
It's interesting to read the questions and responses. Here's
my question, which you can post if you'd like: What
photography equipment is along on your expedition this year?
Did the IMAX camera (a.k.a. "The Pig") make the trip again?
Deb Karl
Response from Base Camp:
We did not bring the IMAX camera this year as the principal
photography for that film produced by MacGillivray-Freeman
Films and Arcturus Motion Pictures has been completed. We
are currently shooting digital video and 16mm film on the
mountain. Other 'photography equipment' includes 35mm
cameras for the Quick Time VR and Apple QuickTake cameras
for digital stills.
Question:
As a Television News Photographer, equipment maintenance
& preparation for assignments is essential. Briefly,
describe ways to protect your film equipment from the harsh
elements of Everest.
Bryan Rager
Response from Base Camp:
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Our major concern is our power supply. Conventional
batteries will not power up in low temperatures and they
also they have to be recharged. We use a non rechargeable
lithium battery which ounce for ounce has 5 times the
power of a Nicad and operates at full power to 35 below
zero.
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We've had custom neoprene camera-tight covers made to
prevent windblown snow from getting into fragile
mechanisms on our digital video camera. The filmmakers are
much more concerned about their abilities to perform in
the cold and altitude than the camera's ability.
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We have to keep all film equipment sealed in plastic bags
in our tents because of the fluctuating temperatures and
the condensation caused inside our tents from our breaths.
Later, when we go outside the steam from our breath can
condense and freeze and then fog the lenses.
Question:
You must have to take along an incredible amount of
supplies. Do you carry ALL of your own supplies, and how
much weight would that be? About how many bottles of oxygen
do you use, and do you personally carry all of them? Good
luck and good weather to all of you.
Greygoat
Response from David Breashears:
The bulk of the load carrying is for the Sherpas. Pete and I
carry some of our own gear, but we have to carry film and
stills gear with us so we can shoot along the way. The
Sherpas have carried approximately 35 loads up to Advanced
Base Camp (CII) and each are about 45/50 pounds. On the
summit day, everyone on the South Col is allocated 1 bottle
for sleeping at flow rate of .5 liters per minute. On the
summit climb, we carry 2 bottles at 2 liters per minute. It
takes 2 bottles to get up and part way down, and then we go
without oxygen on the rest of our descent to Camp IV. Two
additional bottles will be carried by 2 of our Sherpas for
emergency use. Unlike many of the guided parties, we do not
use oxygen from Camp III to Camp IV.
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