Neda's death, and all deaths in Iran are not in vain. That all the bloodshed is to further strengthen the opposition movement, contributing to the fall of the dictatorship as soon as possible, should have more international support, one day these dictators, will also be judged by the Iranian people. The struggle continues ... and the victory is certain.J Pires Apr 10, 2010 07:05

Neda's death may be the rallying symbol for a young people's movement enacting real change in Iran. Just like the Islamic Revolution was thirty years ago of which Mr. Ahmedinejad played a part. Unfortunately when you have a society ruled by old men with hyper-religous ferver as their "reason" for retaining power, until they are gone or diposed there can be no change!Thomas B Mar 31, 2010 12:19

I was disturbed by watching this film. I remember seeing only the death seen alone on youtube the day it happened i believe. There are so many innocents like this who can get butchered like this way and it's not right at all. I wish something could be done to stop this because that is no live. Fighting to defend your rights of your family and country... obviouslly some were not even fighting like the girl here, and even they got murdered. One should be given rights to decide for themselves. Anyone could have been killed that day, but it was Neda who suffered the fate. It's a sad yet true story and it happened. I hope people can learn from this and help make the future less horrific. No one should live a life like this...Olivia Wilson Mar 31, 2010 07:09

This video was extremely sad to watch because it wasn’t like watching a movie or something that was fake. It was a real girl and real people had killed her. I think it is absolutely ridiculous that somebody can get killed over protecting their own rights as a human being. The city officials do not even care who they kill or how many. It scares me to think that the government has that much control over what the people can and cannot do, but I think it is a good thing that they know people are willing to fight for what they believe is right. Niki Feld Mar 29, 2010 20:26

Though Neda's story is a sad one, her actions and of those around her should inspire all of us. No, she was not a "martyr", but an advocate. Imagine how strong our country would be if our citizens responded the way Neda and Iran did. With the pitiful turn out of the last election and elections before it, I admire Neda's strength and what she did. Her death is not in vain, bearing witness now and with other sources of media shows us true determination for liberation and the freedom of speech.Monica Mar 28, 2010 18:47

Above all, I appreciate the way Frontline displayed the facts of this heart-wrenching story in an unbiased manner. It is difficult to watch but necessary; the video holding more powerful of a truth than a photo and a photo being more powerful than a news article. Even more impressively brave is the fact that this is a first-hand account straight from camera phones of people directly affected by the death. The brutal graphicness of this video is very revealing of the pain and suffering the people of this country must endure every single day of their lives. Of course, I feel relieved that I live in a country where my voice can be heard without being threatened but I also feel very responsible and selfish after watching a video like this. I don’t believe the U.S. needs to step in to fix problems like this but I feel personally that humanity cannot just sit back and watch things like this happen and am glad Frontline took the initiative to tell the story of Neda. Brittany Long Mar 28, 2010 14:03

It always saddens me when I see incidents of humanity backpedaling into old, narrow-minded ways of life instead of embracing change and the equality and peace that it brings along with evolving. This is a modern world, but these people must duck and hide as if it were an ancient civil war constantly going in their streets. I am deeply disturbed by the actions taken against these people and of the death of this woman and many like her. The faster humans begin to understand what humanity truly means, the better the world will be for all of us and the future generations to come. Andi Mar 27, 2010 09:53

I found this story incredibly sad, but what unnerves me even more than the video is the fact that she wasn't alone. So many people were victims of crimes just like Neda, but unlike Neda they are washed away just like the paint on the wall. It worries me to know a government can have that much control over their people. The viewer can see this control is her music teacher, who bluntly lies about the events because he is scared. If I were to die in such a way I would like to think my friends and family would stand up for me, but in the Iranian government could they? I am glad that technology was used in a positive way to shed light on her death and it gives me hope for what technology can do.Mary b Mar 25, 2010 21:32

This death is disturbing in so many ways. My greatest concern with Neda's death is the context in which she was killed. I'm not talking about politics or ideals or anything, I'm just wondering: Did the video say she was walking to her car? I remember hearing that mentioned. I mean, yes she was protesting, but this woman was killed while she was LEAVING the protest! That to me is more disturbing than the politics. She was doing absolutely nothing out of the ordinary and yet she was brutally murdered.John Mar 25, 2010 06:43

It is so disheartening to see how such a violent act like this occurred with absolutely no empathy from the Iranian government. Even when this horrific video contains all the evidence necessary, the Iranian government chose ignore the problem in assuming it would go away. Even when nearly the entire world was talking about this video, with Obama’s acknowledgement of saying how heartbreaking it was there was still no consideration in the Iranian government of putting forth empathy. What was most interesting to me was seeing how someone like the music teacher who witnessed the death was able to deny everything and test his morals. How can someone devalue his or her own beliefs and morals for the sake of the government’s protection? Granted, he must have been threatened with death if he did not say what the government asked him to say, it is staggering to see how much one is willing to riskAnna Mar 24, 2010 23:04

The whole election situation in Iran makes me very angry. I don't believe that Ahmadinejad had any intention of relinquishing his post for a moment. I feel the whole election was a facade and was rigged from the start so Ahmadinejad could keep his power without outwardly violating the constitution and becoming an outright dictator in the world's eyes. The level of police readiness and response and the breaking up of Mosavi's headquarters only serves as evidence of Ahmadinejad's desire to keep his power and get things over with as soon as possible. It saddens me that Neda and many others were a victim in all of this and the public seems to have accepted Ahmadinejad as the leader.Palmer Mar 23, 2010 19:36

All I ask my self is why do people feel the right to take others life? Its not yours for the taking, and no matter what government you are under death is never going to fix anything. We are human for a reason! We are not meant to act like savaged beast. Yes we all do things wrong sometimes, and doing the right thing is never going to be easy, but could we please not involve guns and violence. Now-a-days that seems like you would be asking for too much. I hope we remember not for the bad, but to try and change and get it right. Lets not let Neda have died for nothing. Cody Murri Mar 23, 2010 18:28

It is disheartening to watch such an event unfold. It takes people who are not afraid to speak up for what they believe in, no matter what the consequences may entail, to bring true change to a government. The Iranian government is wrong commit these injustices against the citizens of Iran. It amazes me how violently people's characters can change during a time of crisis. I hope that one day soon, changes occur within the Iranian government and the violence against its' citizens is ceased.Fred Mar 22, 2010 19:51

Mehdi,

And do you think they also faked the Basiji firing with rifles in to crowds of pretty much unnarmed protestors? Of course you'd probably argue that rocks and a few moltov cocktails makes an army...

If the mob was so out of control as to warrant such treatment then they would have torn apart the man who shot her, instead they let him go.

The mob were not the murderers that day, even though they had the chance to be, the government was.

Don't be misslead by the history of your ruling party, the Basiji might have been the founding fathers but those men are long dead and their modern day representatives might very well be a group of people hiding behind those legacies, with a much different philosophy and goal in mind then their forbearers.

No matter what the histroy books teach you, the men ruling you now are not the ones written about. Remo Feb 9, 2010 13:50

Shirin,

I enjoyed and agree with your comment entirely!Great sense of humor and very profound way of addressing someone who's so beyond common sense and logic!
Neda will always be a symbol for Persians who seek freedom for Iran.

MoinMoin Feb 5, 2010 09:29

I can't begin to know how those people felt because I have been fortunate enough to not go through civil unrest like iran, but how could thay have let neda's murderer go free? I can't understand how people could be bold enough to throw rocks at armed guards...shooting at them, but let a cold blooded killer go free, how did they disarm him? I am not for murder but when it was reported in the documentery that the killer was caught, I was elated because I would have thought such a stirred mob would have ripped him to shreds....but they let him go instead..out of cunfusion? Thats not how mobs work. Accident? I have a hard time believing that. In police states its very hard for true information to be widespread. I just have an incredible hard time believing that after being front row witnesses to that, that you would just let somebody go. You here the screams, I just cant believe it. jon Jan 28, 2010 18:37

This is one of the most outstanding Frontline documentaries ever. Frontline was able to bring us Neda, in terms of her thoughts and ambitions before the demonstrations, and then what has happened to the people around her in the aftermath of this terrible tragedy. I was particularly struck by the courage of the young doctor, the boyfriend Caspian, by the friend who spoke out, and by Neda's mother, who has refused payments from Iran's government if she will only say that Neda "died for the Revolution". These are Iranians who have risen above a brutal incident to show us the very best that humanity offers. Thank you, Frontline, for such a remarkable portrayal of this event. Lorie Jan 21, 2010 13:34

What an informative documentary! I was so shaken by this event that I felt compelled to write a song in Neda's name. The funny thing is that I haven't composed for two decades but the events of 2009 have been so depressing that it has awakened my inner soul. Please watch our new performance on youtube: http://web.archive.org/web/20100424155944/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93TiajwUldM
God bless the brave, young people of Iran - their courage is inspiring and we pray for freedom there! 33 Years Jan 20, 2010 17:43

What amazes me is that on May 4, 1970, four US citizens were gunned down during a demonstration at Kent State University. Two of those people were not participating in the demonstration at all. Where was the investigative journalism for that event? Why wasn't Richard M. Nixon investigated for crimes against humanity? As horrific as the death of Ms. Soltan was, it's significant that we in the US adopt a somewhat "holier than thou" position of outrage.
Glass houses, people, glass houses.....V Flexon Jan 20, 2010 14:07

Thank you PBS. This is why Frontline is one of my favorite programs. I just wished your perspectives and programs were broadcasted on a major network like CBS, NBC, FOX, and ABC so the rest of country can experience your brand of journalism. Neda's trajedy enlightened Americans, in that Iranians are just like us. They have the same dreams and nationalism for their country. The militia regime is behind all that is evil. I see the "regime" (Mehdi) watched your program. That was propaganda 101.
Simon Nov 25, 2009 11:57

I think this documentary is being made in a very unilateral minded toward the opposition of the Iranian government. If someone lived in Iran and knows about Iranian culture there are many issues could be fund in this documentary which is so far beyond the truth. Why now think for a moment that this girl's death was totally orchestrated by some group in which their purpose was to damage the Islamic Republic. I love Iran and I love Islamic Republic of Iran. Basijis are the foundation of Iranian society as the veteran's to U.S of A.
How come that Dr. was around that area all of a sudden? Why did he leave the scene and not staying there? By Law he was obligated to stay and provide information to the authorities. He is just a fugitive as he would be a fugitive if he was in United States and would have been arrested for negligence. I am a doctor and I know the law. I don't think he knew anything about medicine at all. Is it how a doctor should try stop someone's bleeding??? Where did he go to Medical school? Apparently, he didn't know anything about medicine and how to approach a patient with bleeding. He was only used for accusing the Iranian government for killing but where is his credential? I didn't buy his testimony for a moment. So your I am sorry to say that your whole documentary is flawed and false.Mehdi Nov 25, 2009 02:00

This is terrible this happened, absolutely sickening this kind of thing happensAdam Nov 24, 2009 12:13

Carli,
You're humility is touching. You have responded very maturely even though, as you say, you are only a "high school kid". Keep your mind open, keep listening and learning about the world. It will take you far in life. God bless you.

Sharonsharon Nov 24, 2009 09:02

Dear Carli, and whoever else takes at face value, what the media tells you,

I am part of the Iranian youth, and I was in Iran for all of the summer this year, including the pre-election celebrations, as well as the post-election attrocities.

What is going on in Iran is simply absurd, and it flies against ALL that is moral and ALL that a governemnt should provide its people in theory.

It is sad to see this video and very hard to accept that I, my self, come from a place where this happens. Nonetheless, I am a proud Iranian, and a strong opposition member of the current government, and I want to rally the following message to ALL those who watched this video, whether Iranian, American, Canadian, or from anywhere else in the world:

If I don't go out, and protest, and She doesn't go out and protest, and so on and so forth, no one will go out and protest. So lets all go out; and though we may be scared of death, it is in the name of good, and it is in the name of justice, and it is a cause that our life can justifiably given for.

I understand many will not agree with me, but f we all sit in silence, and don't go out and protest, again and again and again, then what are we going to do? Sit and take the repression?

I am a uni student, and I know as a matter of fact, that as soon as my education is done, I will be moving back to iran, not because I am forced to, but because I want to, and because I care for my country, and for its people, and thus urge Iranians all over the world to spread awareness while compelling respective foreign governments to take action against this repressive governemnt.

Thank you, and goodbye.

Cho Iran Nabashad, Tane Man Mabad. Parham Nov 24, 2009 03:47

Sharon,
Thank you for accepting my apology, now I am seeing what you mean, I did not mean the people of Iran AT ALL, and I'm sorry my bad english made it seem that way. I'm just a high school kid who had to comment on this for a school assignment, I meant no harm and I will admit that I really don't know what is going on in the world for the most part. I tried to leave a harmless comment but as you can see I failed at that but really I feel awful I didn't mean to insult anyone :[Carli Hudson Nov 22, 2009 22:24

It is very important that people around the world understand the plight of the Iranian people. Many young Iranians use a saying "I am Neda". In this day and age, we should all support young Iranians, and we should all be "Neda".

Please send a link of this video to your friends and family. Support the people of Iran. Michael Nov 22, 2009 21:01

The maintaining of power is the root of most political violence. Ideological disputes only delineate the groups looking to gain power. Is it possible to take away power without a fight? I would say only in free and fair elections, but even that isn't enough to stop the violence. Whether Iran had free and fair elections is really a moot point. Someone seized power, now it's a game between dueling ideologies as to who can keep the power. Frontline is now a player in that, if only a minor one. It'll be interesting to see who will win this game in Iran.Jonathan from Oklahoma Nov 22, 2009 20:31

The regime of Iran is an evil entity, when politics and God are mixed, neither God nor the people they are supposed to be representing are well served. The government and the their pit bulls under the name of the Basij are going to be defeated by the people, islam is not a religion of most people who think in Iran, islam is a religion that is violent and fits well with the occupiers of Iran who currently rule there, but they will go down soon enough given time. God help us get rid of this regime and religion from our beloved country.Hussein Nov 21, 2009 18:01

Thanks to PBS/FRONTLINE for producing this documentary. I was in Tehran before and after the elections, participated in most of demos and witnessed first hand the brutality of the I.R. regime.
I was also in Tehran during the 1978 revolution. There are many similarities and differences. The level of suppression and brutality exercised by the regime in Iran today is orders of magnitude greater than 30 years ago.
Neda's stroy, is story of tens of millions born after 1979. A modern generation who understand what they want from life, oppressed by an older, failed, generation (mine), dying in misery, caused by their own mistakes 30+ years ago.
Maziar Nov 21, 2009 15:47

Earlier, I made a comment and here is an additional one. But firstI have to say that I am so touched by reading these comments and the outpouring of support and kind words from the non-Iranian viewers. I have to agree with Pirouz who in his comments pointed out that more detail could have been provided and there is so much more to report. Others like Neda died in the streets, many were tortured to death in the prisons or were raped in custody (man and woman). A girl by the name of Taraneh was ganged raped in prison and her body was found burnt on the outskirts of Tehran. There have been many more demonstrations inside and outside of Iran. The show trials, the imprisonment of many journalists/bloggers, hanging and executions of minors, rapes in prisons, suspicious death of different individuals who maybe knew too much, and I can go on and on. IRAN IS IN THE TOP 5 AS FAR AS HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS ARE CONCERNED. This regime is much more brutal, evil and unjust than the previous one. They silence anyone at any cost and lie and lie and lie....That is why it is so important that shows like Frontline continue showing the plight of Iranians.Minoo Nov 20, 2009 20:14

this is really sad that stuff like this still goes on in the world. Its just terrible to see an innocent person get killed like that. Also how all these other people now have to live in exile because they filmed it on their phones, which I guess is illegal there. Its just different because here in America the public is pretty much the number one source of media.Chris Lehman Nov 20, 2009 16:03

Thanks Frontline for producing this unbelievable documentary. Such an emotional story as this is so important to share with the world. I was extremely impressed with the way this documentary was put together. The footage from the civilians’ cell phones made the story more real to me. I actually felt like I was a protester on the street. This excites me to see how in the future, news will continue to be caught on camera by a bystander, not just another reporter. Amber Snyder Nov 20, 2009 12:11

After watching this documentary, I was competely shocked. I feel for Neda and her family and friends. What happend to her was unfair and not just. I think it was amazing how most of this documentary was video taken from people's camera phones. It makes everything that much more real. And watching this footage gave me chills. I think that this event has much more to the story and its unfortunate that Neda and her family have not gotten justice.Maggie Wilson Nov 20, 2009 11:57

THE STORY OF THE IRANIAN PEOPLE IS AN AGE OLD STORY..POWER CORRUPTS AND THE PEOPLE SUFFER FROM OPPRESSIVE LEADERSHIP..THE MERE MENTION OF "NEDAS MURDER" BY A BASIJII SNIPER..ORCHESTRATED BY AHMADINEJADS REVOLUTIONARY GUARDS IS A CRIME IN ITSELF..ONE DAY ,SOMEDAY THAT "SNIPER' WILL BE BROUGHT TO JUSTICE,AND HE WILL BE BROUGHT BEFORE "NEDAS" FAMILY AND IRANS PEOPLE AND BE GIVEN A WELL DESERVED JUDGEMENT AND PUNISHMENT FOR HIS CRIME...A CHILD WAS KILLED NEEDLESSLY, AN UNARMED CURRIOUS YOUNG LADY, BY A TRAINED KILLER...AND A FELLOW IRANIAN, ENTRUSTED TO PROTECT THE IRANIAN PEOPLE..I AM NOT IRANIAN, I AM A WESTERNER WITH ROOTS IN THE ARABIC / SPANISH WORLD BUT EVEN AMONG MY PEOPLE THERE IS HONOR, AND PROTECTION WITHIN OUR CULTURE...'THE MOMENT WE STOP FIGHTING FOR EACH OTHER IN THE WORLD...THATS THE MOMENT WE LOSE OUR HUMANITY"..TO THE PEOPLE OF IRAN "SOMEDAY YOU WILL BE FREE FROM OPPRESSION.,,STAND AND CONTINUE FIGHTING UNTIL YOU HAVE REACHED YOUR GOAL OF EQUALITY AND DEMOCRACY IN A FREE IRAN........"KING-FISHER"KING-FISHER Nov 20, 2009 10:36

The people's desire for freedom was amazing, just to see how much the would go through in order to obtain a just government. The girl risked her life and she didn't even protest that much. I can't imagine the risk that others took when they threw rocks or something worse.

The format of the video was really good. I liked how most of the footage that they showed was taken by camera phones. It really shows where we are going as a society. Now that people have camera phones and potentially everything that will ever happen could possibly be video taped is mind blowing. There will never be a day when a news program can say that they "weren't able to obtain footage" I really liked how they played the footage of the street she was killed on and the actual video of her twice, once before you knew anything and then after when everything had been explained to you. Nick Nov 20, 2009 08:45

I see that Islamic Regime dogs are coming here again and spreading lies, The truth is out dogs , so stop barking. Iran will be Free soon and Dogs are going back to their cages soon. Makan Nov 20, 2009 07:40

Thank you Frontline. I always watch your shows but this had a special place in my heart although it was hard to watch. Please, please do more. Iranians and the reform movement need this kind of support. Do more about the events after Neda's death. Many more brutalities and extreme injustice have taken place. I know the producers might already know that because Tehran Bureau is part of the Frontline now. Maybe a program about Karrubi??Minoo Nov 19, 2009 23:02

I think video like this shows the power of a video cameras. If it hadn't been for a simple cell phone camera this story would never have gotten out. Eventually as video cameras become more and more ubiquitous nothing will be able to be supressed. The truth will always be reavealed. We will be our own WatchersDanny Parrott Nov 19, 2009 22:26

After watching this documentary I felt so sorry for Neda's family. This must have been an awful ordeal for them to go through. I do though have alot of respect for the people that spoke up about this terrible act. I'm so glad that people were able to put their lives on the line to help share the story of this young woman. Katie Morris Nov 19, 2009 20:43

Thanks Frontline for another outstanding documentary. I also want to praise iranians who were brave enough to speak out against the regime. I think they gave me an impressive example to never give up of my dreams. Renato Yoshida Nov 19, 2009 20:40

Carli,
I accept your apology. I do however want to remind you that you mentioned that it was the "people" and their "culture" who didn't have a funeral for her. You mentioned it again in your apology, "..no one would hold a funeral for her". Words are powerful. And your choice of words pointed your finger straight to the people and not to the hellish cold-blooded government that was trying to cover up the incident albeit unsuccessfully. This was clearly reported in the program but why you didn't take notice, I'll never understand.
As a 46 year old Iranian-American, I have attended many funerals of fellow Iranians including my 36 year old cousin. I can assure you that we are just like everyone else. In fact, I'm sometimes surprised by the stoicism of my American counterparts when they lose loved ones. But that's how the world is. We all grieve in many ways. But loss is wretchedly painful regardless of how it's expressed.
I would like to add that Neda's boyfriend, mother, sister, brother and the doctor who tried to save her ALL memorialized her by cooperating with Frontline for this program. Do you understand the ramifications for them? By now, I trust that you do. I don't need to repeat the possible atrocities. They are risking everything for Neda and all Iranians who desperately want and need freedom. ...
Sharon Nov 19, 2009 19:35

Dear Exir,
As an Iranian reading your post I began to wonder about starting a revolution. I mean a real revolution. This one could turn the country upside down. According to you,

"we persians are the most unappreciative people in the world. nobody
can rule Iran because of that......

Wow! How profoundly enlightening that the reason for this brutal government is because we're just plainly ungrateful!
So, here's my idea about a revolution. Let's pass the word to every living Iranian on this planet that in order to save our people all we need to do is say "Thank you". And then let's run to the store today to purchase a thank you card, sign it and say something sweet to Iran's leaders. Then, let's mail it to the Iranian government who, by the way, is "starving for appreciation". Oh how happy they would be. Then all Persians in Iran would deserve life, liberty and happiness. PRESTO! Now Iran's government becomes nice to it's people.
If I had only known how easy it would be.Shirin Nov 19, 2009 18:38

Sigh. Thank you, Frontline staff, for reminding me yet again what a precious thing even our imperfect version of freedom is here in the U.S., and for bringing my awareness to the many people across the world who fight and suffer to procure what all of us want, regardless of nation---to live in basic peace and happiness. This type of informative coverage helps me to understand the world and my purpose in it, and guides my decisions, both local and global. Thank you.Camille Nov 19, 2009 17:37

Thank you PBS for creating this documentory to show what realy happend to Neda and many others who are being killed in Iran. We will never forget who is with us.Z Nov 19, 2009 17:03

Dear Sharon,
I apologize for offending you by my comment, I truly was not trying to start anything. I am not talking about the people all remembering her and stuff like that, I just meant how no one would hold a funeral for her. And I am aware of everything else that went on in the video, I can see that the people in Iran are standing up for what they know is wrong, and the way the government in Iran handles it is sad for me to see. I was just mentioning how that part stuck out to me. So once again sorry for offending you I was just stating my opinions.Carli Hudson Nov 19, 2009 15:36

This film really hit home for me. I couldn't believe that innocent lives were being taken in such a grueling manner. I think we all need to take a step back and and focus on the things that truly matter. We are all people and we are all equal and it is our job to take care of one another, especially if our country will not protect us. It's crazy to think that someone's life can be taken in a moment, and that we can as easily capture it on a cell phone. Our world is changing and so is the way the media is covering it.Maddie Slutsky Nov 19, 2009 15:22

Frontline did a very good job at showing such a sad story. It was really eye opening and frightening to see the video of Neda getting shot. You always hear in the news about these kinds of things happening in other countries but it doesn't really hit you until you see something like this.Nikki M. Nov 19, 2009 13:44

This video was really upsetting to me because Neda didn't do anything to deserve to die. If everyone who stood up for what they believed in here and got shot there would be no one left. I think there are alot of people out there who need to watch this video to understand how lucky we are to live in a country where we have freedom of speech and we can riot safely and they take it for granit.Kelly Stevens Nov 19, 2009 13:22

I grieve for the death of Neda, and I grieve for the troubles the people of Iran are facing.. It is such a shame that this has happened in a time where change was about to come. Yet I see and hold much hope that there is so much greatness and strength within the people of Iran. I can sense their strong love for their country and passion for justice. Change will come to Iran, as long as the people stay strong as they are, it WILL come.Erica Nov 19, 2009 11:39

It is a very sad story about what happend to Neda. I think this episode of Frontline showed the story of what happend very well. It shows that in todays age any one can be a broadcast journalist. majority of people own cameras now, and there is no hiding from them. I really liked how most of the Broll of this episode was from Cell phone cameras. It really got the point across of how todays generation is becoming fully technological. The media continues to grow and anyone can easily film and upload to internet for the world to see. The story was very well put together and showed the tragedy of what happend in a very informing way. It just shows how a simple camera phone can ruin a country's government reputation. No matter how hard the government in Iran tries to supress its people, there is no way of doing that with today's rise in technology and media.Kieren Astall Nov 19, 2009 10:37