Speaker Oh, did did you get any quotes that they said about how Henry’s wife was poisoned by the arsenic?
Speaker Oh, oh. And that caused a sensation in Italy. The Times were furious because it sounded as though Italians were poisoning her. And then. Time. Time never should have done that. But did it because Claire told them tell them what to do.
Speaker She totally put that out. She did. Oh, she did. Oh, yes. Oh. Oh.
Speaker Oh, she wasn’t a vixen. But anyway, it was sweet, but she was a she was a vixen you love.
Speaker I just want to know one thing. If we pulled down her jacket a little bit in the back.
Speaker Just I just played it up. She gave birth to me. Is it all right now let’s play.
Speaker Okay. Plenipotentiary. Right.
Speaker We I’m just going to say that this is January 3rd and we’re with the tissue Baldridge. And for the Henry Luce Project for American Masters PBS. You know, we were talking about just why we were lying, we’re talking about this. And I wonder if when you were younger and living in your family’s house, whether Life magazine ever came to the.
Speaker O o life and time always we read avidly every week. And during the war, fantastic stories in life, photojournalism really rose and time for I mean, life was just worshipped. I remember when we at Tiffany’s, we gave the Tiffany ball for the first time that Newport, Rhode Island ever opened the great mansions for our society ball. That was also to raise money for the Newport Preservation Society. But there we were with life covering it. Life goes to a ball. And there they were. They were their genes and their work clothes up on ladders and incomes. The dowager duchess, chairman of the ball and says you shall not appear around here dressed like that.
Speaker And we had to open up the Army Navy stores in Newport and get them MASC officers jackets so they would look decent. Life was such a big thing. Oh, we all fought over it. Absolutely. And time. Of course, I worship time, too. As soon as I had a brain, because I found that by reading it from one end to another, even when I was young and vasseur nobody else. Well, yes, maybe 10 people in the whole college were reading it from covered cover. But I had a leg up on them. I had an advantage because I really could toss out conversational tidbits any time, thanks to that magazine.
Speaker That’s. To do this, there seems to be some question.
Speaker That comes up about Claire and her role in the, quote unquote, invention of life. Did you ever talk with her about that?
Speaker Well, she simply said that it was her idea. I mean, there was no quote. There was no discussion. I think it was a fact. She is the one who was responsible for the idea.
Speaker How did Henry feel about it? Sorry. How did Harry you feel about her? Her claims?
Speaker Well, she always made these claims when he wasn’t in the room. So there was never any. I’m sure there was probably some fighting going on at nighttime or, you know, on the weekends when the press wasn’t around. And when people like me weren’t around. But they usually talk very openly in front of me.
Speaker I was living in their house, not living, but spending eleven hours a day in their house. And I really saw them at home, quote, at home. And they were delightful. They had an intellectual marriage. I’ve never seen one quite like it. They tossed the ball back and forth at one another with such amazingly witty things. And they played Scrabble at night. And I sat there and watched them just fascinated because, of course, each one would come up with a new dictionary with very odd exotic words to beat the other one.
Speaker And when the other one would say, that’s not a word, Harry, you can’t use, that is not a word. Then it gave him great pleasure to whip out this strange dictionary that he bought in Fargo, South Dakota, or someplace that had that word.
Speaker They had intellectual competition all the time. And it’s what made them so fascinating. But what what I really remember the most about them is when they dressed up for state dinners, those great evenings in Palazzi, Princess Pallava, Cheaney, these wonderful palaces, they both loved going to those dinners and getting in their best. Bill and Tucker, they were like little children because, of course, there’s nothing like that back in New York. I mean, you can go to all the parties you want at the Waldorf Astoria, but when you go to a ball at Nino’s part of a cheese on the visa sestina or whatever, whether it was veal, veal, quatro, fontagné, that is real pomp and circumstance. They loved it. And of course, the whole staff would get down in the front hall when they were going out because they looked so beautiful and they wanted to see her and her jewels and her ball gown.
Speaker She changed your mind about what she was going to wear eight times before she finally appeared? Always late, of course, and he always looked so perfectly tailored. And his black tie and all the Italian men just looked at him with just wide eyed because they they had started their own fashions, pointy pointy shoes after the war nipped in ways. And their fabrics in those days were not great. Now they’re absolutely fantastic. But it was still wartime for the Italians. And sometimes you’d see Henry picked up. Harry picked up in front of the village of Errin and a little tiny top Aledo car because he wanted to taste the Italian life and he wanted to go with me to the football matches on Sundays in the Great for Olympic Gold, the big Olympic Station stadium where they had these football games every Sunday and where everybody bet on them total power. So you bet a few 500 lire and you could become like a lottery winner. But the games were fantastic. They were very. People were screaming and yelling. And Henry Luce wanted to see that. So he went with us one day. He was all dressed up in a marvelous, great Chesterfield and a wonderful dark suit and his gray fedora, a beautiful hat. And by the end of the game, his had had been squished down and pounded on his head. He looked like a clown with a thing down over his ears and his beautiful gray chesterfield was ruined because people were putting peanut shells on it and throwing mustard.
Speaker If he were, he couldn’t get over it because there was so much exhilaration and and excitement among the Italians. He said, I’m glad you took me dish, but I have an announcement. No more football games. So he was so he was excited by these things. He liked to taste Italian like. And I was there.
Speaker Sort of snooper I. I was their spy for the music. Would never have gotten any of these places. He’s one of a little trapped areas where these singers who were really sort of like Bowery bums, but they were the Neapolitan singers would come and stand by your table and look down the ladies bosom directly and sing. It was also skiffle, so it was always a joke.
Speaker So Henry Luce wanted to see that. And we managed to get him there and read Clair Wood slumming over on the left bank. Absolutely great.
Speaker What was it like for him to be. Well, it’s interesting because I’ve seen it, too, as I’ve seen.
Speaker I’ve seen you described as the ambassador’s wife. And I’ve seen how they described the ambassador’s what it’s like for him to be there and be, quote unquote, playing second fiddle.
Speaker You know, if a person is very secure in his own right about himself, his self-esteem, if he knows he’s really great stuff. Harry Lewis did know that.
Speaker He’s not threatened by all this publicity and adoration of Clare Boothe Luce as really more important, the ambassador toward it. So actually, Handsell Ambasador. That didn’t bother him at all. He was so secure in his own right. And of course, he loved being sat protocol wise at the bottom of the table, these official dinners with all the pretty young women and the nice young guys who we never got a chance to sit with ever in New York. He’d always be put up with all the old stuffed shirts. The important people and seated between two unattractive old women wives. So Harry was with all the young, really young jetset in Rome. He loved it. He said, I don’t care about not having rank. Don’t give me any rag, for heaven’s sakes. Don’t give me any rag.
Speaker Oh, I loved his sense of humor. He was. It was unbelievable. Well, that’s what I was.
Speaker Well, I have a little snow is leaking leaking noses, as I know you’re used to that.
Speaker What what was what was your from your perspective? What was he like?
Speaker I was terrified when I first met Harry Luse. He I knew he was a grumbler and a mumbler and that he came in with fierce eyebrows, bristling, and that he scared everybody to death. And he took no nonsense, but I found him to be. A pushover, once you got him relaxed and teased him, he loved to be teased. He pretended not to be, but he loved it. And once you got past that barrier and of course, I was a young woman and I was his employee, so I had a lot of barriers to cross over. But just teasing him. He just loved it. And all the young people who treated him that way. He was a real friend, too. He had an endlessly noble heart. If he’d hear a sob story, he always would make sure that that person got some help from somewhere. He was most generous man I ever knew. And once when he really yelled at me and screamed at me because I hadn’t brought his Rome Daily American the daily newspaper up to him when he had breakfast, I hadn’t because it hadn’t arrived at the village Ana that day. None of the copies. But he wouldn’t hear too is my fault. I took it and take. Took it from his breakfast. Right. So I said, Mr. Luiz, I’m departing. I know you just have to yell at someone. And I departed feeling just so mad. Well, at that afternoon, I got a call from his secretary saying, Mr. Lew’s heard you speaking about these marvelous pumps, these shoes, brown satin shoes with rhinestone. He heals at Darko, who was the great shoemaker, and he knows you don’t have no money to buy a pair and he wants you to go and buy a pair on him. I mean, how could you help would love a man like that.
Speaker What’s he? In his gruffness, we have a dumpster, several.
Speaker Is this back all right? Is this OK? Yep, she’s got that equilibrium.
Speaker Are hearing eager equilibrium, mate.
Speaker I am equally well. And what about Claire? What was it like to go on and on?
Speaker So please. What was she like? She’s such a terribly complicated woman.
Speaker Claire Lewis was probably the most complicated woman of our age and certainly one of the most brilliant. And it’s just too bad that she isn’t recognised for being as brilliant as she was. You know, people talked about. Does that bother you?
Speaker That’s something just right.
Speaker It’s just a bus. Claire Lewis was one of the most complicated people in the world, and I don’t think many people really understood her. She had the best sense of public relations of anybody I’ve ever known. She taught me my trade because I went into PR afterwards and she taught it to me without even knowing that she was teaching it to me. When her dog, her little puppies were about to die and her female dog Skuzzy did die in childbirth, the vet looked at the tiny little puppies and said, there’s no way we can keep them alive. She doesn’t have mother’s milk to give. And there’s no dog small enough to to treat these puppies to a miniature French poodles. Well, Claire wouldn’t hear of it, and she hadn’t called the zoo. She had me call the dog pound the canoe Unico Monali, which is the worst place in Maginn, a home. We would never allow such a place in this country. And so I went down there finally to the Kanuni Communality and found a nursing mother. Very huge wolfhound. But I bought the wolfhound for two seventy five and all the pups and came back to the village veronal. She was out in front of the village eventa just having hysterics. My Lord was gonna get there fast enough to say those little puppies lives. Well that senors snack bar. She called her immediately took the little puppies to the drinking fountains and pushed her own big brutes up to the corner of the box. I’ve never seen anything like it. The vet said when he saw this dog is not going to work. Madam Ambassador is not going to work. It did. And Senora Snack Bar nurse, those two little puppies and Claire call them Romulus and Remus. And if you don’t think this story didn’t make the headlines. Every Italian newspaper for a week. And that’s the way she was. She didn’t she didn’t go down to visit the fleet in Naples when they invited her on this grandiose occasion. They sent a fleet of limos up to get her. She was ahead of them. She’d already gone out to Champi, you know, and jumped into a fighter pilot plane and went on the back of an open back, open seat, open cockpit. I guess you call it, of a fighter plane. And they landed on the deck of the SS forestall aircraft carrier. The whole fleet was there in Naples watching Madam Lamba Shita a get out of this little plane wearing a bright orange Fabiani designed jumpsuit. That’s the way she was.
Speaker What was she?
Speaker Well, she misunderstood. I mean, people seem to.
Speaker Oh, yeah, yes. When I heard about her before I worked for everything I heard was awful. And I think people love to be mean and nasty about her when she ever showed a bad side, because when anybody is that beautiful and rich and talented, you want to strike them down. So a lot of stories were told about her that were untrue, a lot of exaggerations. She lost her temper like everybody else. I mean, when the people I’ve worked for, the Bruces, embarrassed the losers in Rome, the candies in the White House, I’ve seen shewn shows of temper, like probably nobody has seen. But it’s natural for people who are under terrible pressure and in the limelight and then they get written about in a really nasty way. And it’s not true.
Speaker What was it like as this is often described? What was it like when.
Speaker There would be a room full of people, and Claire made her entrance.
Speaker You know, she didn’t have to make a dramatic entrance. She brought it with her wherever she was. She was always dressed magnificently. But the main thing people saw were the jewels. She.
Speaker That one.
Speaker The main thing that people saw were the jewels, this beautiful woman would come in in a tie and designer gown and just dripping with jewels. She really looked terrific, people like that. And then everybody would whisper of thought in my story, Senor Luce. Of course, he had no title. He was just Senor Loose. But she was Madam Madame Love. So actually lands around my laboratory. And boy, did she create a stir.
Speaker Wherever she went was. How did men react to her versus how women.
Speaker Yeah, well, she wouldn’t as she brushed women away. She just got rid of them quickly. She’d go into a dinner party and spend all of her time with the men. If any woman approached her. She just quickly turned to the man and get engaged in conversation. And when the women would leave the table to go into the drawing room for demitasse and powdering their noses, she would simply stay with the men at the table. And because of her, all of the principals say the Marquez and all the wives of the government leaders said, well, if she’s going to stay with the men we are to we’re not going to have divorce division of the sexes after dinner. So Claire really stopped that. And in Italy, she loved to be with a man. She had very few women friends, just a few very close women friends. But she had a lot of men, friends, and lot of them, I think, were attracted to her sexually. But she wouldn’t really that that really she didn’t want she wanted to be attracted to intellectually.
Speaker Do you think. Do you think she.
Speaker I put this used her. The fact that she knew she was a beautiful woman used her sexuality to.
Speaker Accomplish your goals, of course. Clear Loose used her beauty to accomplish your goals. I saw her work on a minister from the Ministry of Forestry who had been criticizing and giving her a hard time in the government platform. And she invited him for cocktails and she came down. Well, there’s another story attached to that. I won’t go into that. But she came down the stairs and greeted him and sat in the in the parlors for an hour and a half. One little aperitif where she’s snowed in, shall we say. He was eating out her hand by the end of the visit. And I’m sure he had all kinds of plans of coming back some night. Did. You didn’t allow that? She teased.
Speaker Sound of dog is.
Speaker People moving around, Olena. She’s leaving some stuff.
Speaker You said in your book you thought she was the most exciting woman in the world. Why?
Speaker Because anyone, any woman who can look that way. And have that brain. And to have done everything for women way ahead of time to have that power. And to have had that husband. That makes her plenty exciting. I mean, she there wasn’t anything she missed except, of course, the tragedy of her daughter, her daughter having being her only child and having been killed in an automobile accident. That was something she never got over. But if you take that one sadness away, she was a powerhouse of charm and beauty and intellect. Oh, I was I was star struck the whole four years. I just followed around like a puppy. And course, she relentlessly criticized me for everything I did wrong, which I needed. I was always rushing ahead and saying, well, we’ll do this. We’ll do that. And she put the sign up over my desk. A dirty desk is a sign of a dirty mind. So I was so disorderly to.
Speaker Zap, Bob.
Speaker Probably talking. OK.
Speaker Did she ever tell you how how she and Harry met, how they got together?
Speaker No, she didn’t talk about that. But my father, who went out to Cleveland to a big Republican adept organizing committee, House party. Dave Engle’s my father told me that she had just met Henry Luce and she and and Henry Luce brought her along as his date for this. And surprise all the men. It was a stag party and surprised all the men with this beautiful woman who proceeded to jump into the angle’s swimming pool and swim faster and harder than any other man. And Harry was showing her off. But that is round the time they first met, I think, in 1936. And she she got him.
Speaker What was was it at that time? Was it significant? Was her appointment as ambassador was a significant thing.
Speaker Oh. When Claire Lewis was appointed Bastard Italy. It was unbelievable. Was the first time. A woman had been appointed ambassador to a major power. I mean, Pearl Mesta had been a bastard. Luxembourg. I mean, that that doesn’t count. Claire Luse was in the big league when she was appointed to Italy because at that time, the communists were taking over Western Europe, trying their best. She was there at a very important time. She talked every day to the secretary of state, many times to the president. She was in the big league and was she proud of that and was instead of being jealous. Henry Luce was so proud of that, too. That’s what that why they were a great couple. Each was proud of the other. There was never any jealousy. I mean, that I saw in my in that time of life. Those were the best years. They both said the best years of their marriage.
Speaker Was that was there was it also during that time that there was infidelity?
Speaker Lady Jane? Yes. Yes, it was during that time that Lady Jeanne wanted Henry Lowe’s and this great affair started. And Claire did what she had to do. She went home and stopped it. She just went home and got rid of the situation. That’s the thing to do when you have a husband who’s driving.
Speaker Was she was she guilty of the same? I mean, was it a marriage that had been now part of the contract or.
Speaker No, I. She had intellectual affairs with men. She was not interested in sex. Honestly, I know she wasn’t. But sexual attraction, I mean, intellectual attraction can be very powerful. And she had men eating out of her hand for that.
Speaker What, what?
Speaker Sort of on a day to day basis when Harry was in Rome. What did he want? Well, she was so busy being ambassador.
Speaker Harry ran his empire from Rome. Walsh when he came, he would come and spend about six weeks. First of all, they were meant to live apart much of the year. That’s what kept their marriage alive and good. They never could be on a day to day basis with each other for too long. There were two. There were too much alike. They were too competitive. So when he came, he would run his empire from time life, a little office on Avenue. I’d forgotten it. I used to know it in my heart. He would go and do the interviews with the heads of state. He would go in and interview Nasser in Cairo and people like that and the prime minister of Great Britain, which made the time bureau chiefs furious because they thought that was their job and he was taking thare interviews away from them. But he went back to being a young reporter again and he would hand over his notes to somebody in time to to do the finished job. But he did the basic interviews. He loved it and he loved all. The young prince based southern Mackays are the contessa who fluttered around him. And really. Oh, that’s probably my doctor. I’m sorry. Squeeze it for everything you can for what it took to become a a more mature, learned person. I mean, that these jobs, a history that I live through. Well, the starting of the. Of the Berlin Airlift of the. Oh, the communist uprising and almost taking over Italy was was hair raising and the communist. Even in Paris took parts of the. What’s what’s the big avenue that comes down from the between of the the Machar’s easy. They even had pickaxes and broke up the sidewalk on the shores of. And threw it at Americans who were coming by with was it was the communist uprising.
Speaker Was that while you were there.
Speaker Yes. During her tenure. Her tenure, yes. And of course, that’s I mean, I have so many long stories of that. But she she held fast. And if she hadn’t had. The time, if time hadn’t printed the story that. She was poisoned by arsenic. If they had just said the ceiling was falling down and something when the ceiling was poisoning her. If they hadn’t done that story, she would have been revered like a saint in Italy because of her role in the treehouse situation and so forth.
Speaker So what was her most sort of what were the most significant accomplishments?
Speaker Oh, I think is the solution of the tree? Asked Tree yesterday. Problem was her most significant. The secretary of state may take the credit and the president, the United States may take the credit and several generals. But it was really clear loose who put it all together. She wheeled and deal and kept everything coming together, she was marvelous strategist. I think that’s what she always felt was her crowning moment.
Speaker So being ambassador was anything but just being a social norm, all of it.
Speaker In those times, it was so different. Being an ambassador in those times at a major capital was a very important job. There was no window dressing. There was no husband and wife on the top of the wedding cake. It was a very solemn job. First of all, communications were so bad they had not developed. It took two days to get a long cable through from Rome to Washington. In those days, unless you put top priority on a nanny would take about six to eight hours. You couldn’t you couldn’t get through on secure lines because there weren’t enough of them. And they had to talk on secure lines. So communication was very slow. Therefore, the ambassador had to be someone of talent and expertise who knew what he or she was talking about. It couldn’t just be a political appointee paying off a political appointee, which it mostly is today.
Speaker That I shouldn’t have said so we won’t embarrass. That’s my pledge to you.
Speaker What was her what were her politics? Visa V Harris Paul.
Speaker Oh, I think they were both on the same page with their politics. I think they really were. They were together as a force and they could talk down anybody who was against them and they all knew the same heads in the party and so forth, Claire naturally wanted to be Bossier and have more power than she actually had in politics, Republican politics. That was the only thing she overstepped herself in Connecticut and everywhere else. But she was a great asset to Harry Lewis because at the conventions there, she’d be by his side or she’d be making a major speech. And I made him look good.
Speaker But she wasn’t she she always struck me as being even more.
Speaker He seemed he seemed to be I mean, both of them were were Republicans. Oh, yes. But she seemed to be even more struck, more stridently.
Speaker Yes. I think Kyra was more stridently a Republican because she was a woman trying to get ahead in the party and women just were pushed around in those days. It was Margaret Chase Smith. And there was. Well, how many people were there? Practically no one. So she felt she had to do a lot. She she had to do a lot for women and for herself in politics. Yes. She was more strident, more forceful, more wanting to get on every platform she could jump up on to give a speech, whereas Henry Luce was reticent.
Speaker It wasn’t a very good speaker, frankly, it was, so it was his writing was so, you know, we’ve been we went through the timing letters that he wrote when he was five years old.
Speaker And you knew, you know, this was going to be someone terrific, you know? You really knew because it was. Well, he also at that time, publishing of magazines was such a fantastic thing to be a to be on the staff of a well-thought-of magazine. A newspaper was the greatest thing you could be. And now with magazines like Playboy and and all this stuff, there’s cheap stuff and sex and and people having that talk about who’s the most beautiful, the most. It’s just changed so much. And therefore, there isn’t the respect and the dignity of population towards people who are in that profession that there used to be.
Speaker What was special about Time magazine?
Speaker What was it was the first first magazine. Time was the first magazine out there fast with the news and with. Good news detail knows, but amusingly expressed or emotionally expressed, in other words, I didn’t just get it out there. They got it out there, but they couched it in various ways. So there was entertaining. Absolutely essential to read. And that’s how people got to know what was going on in the world. Nowadays, they have bites on the television. Tiny little bites. And half the time they don’t know how to pace them. A unified whole. But in the end, the days of time where you have a unified behold just right there, didn’t have do any work. Just read it. Look at the pictures and then you’ll be able to talk that night at dinner in a pretty intelligent way. What about life before tell what was was a life, of course was was such a groundbreaker with all those marvelous pictures showing people the insides and the outsides of things as they happen. Of course, the photographers became the great heroes of the age. And it showed how artistic they were. And they had to have news value. But they also had to know how to frame things. Right. That had never occurred before. Pictures were just slam bang. Take them and put them in the paper. Life made news photography a real art.
Speaker Can you tell us? The Encyclopedia Britannica story.
Speaker William Burton. You mean the caviar?
Speaker No, I’m thinking, oh. Oh, he.
Speaker Senator William Benton Benton, who is the head, also the head of the Encyclopedia Britannica and very renowned, very rich, very famous, decided to send Claire hot off the press. The 24 volumes of his new encyclopedia, Encyclopedia Britannica. This must have been 1954. And he took all those volumes and had them specially leather bound with gold tooling and her name and the date on every book. I mean, these were magnificent books. He sent them all over to her proudly. And her name had been misspelled. S.L A I, r, b, instead of C, l. a. R.E. and he she was so angry she said centavo back. I said, Mrs. Ambassador can send them all back. It’s worth a fortune. Scuse me, can I help you?
Speaker Are you the proper. OK, well, you’re important. Go wherever you go where you have to go.
Speaker Miss Gab, Mr. Holland’s honor. Get Mr. Holmes done. That’s the thing. Where is he? The plumber. And then a marvelous. Marvelous article, important to.
Speaker OK, let’s start with where we’re what we’re talking about the. The Bensons sending her.
Speaker Oh, well, we got through the 24 items. Her name had been misspelled. And as a result, she said, send back the whole thing. I said, Mrs. Ambassador, he’s gone to a lot of time, trouble and expense to do this. Can’t you possibly take these and use them? She said, absolutely not. I will not hear of it. So back they went and Senator Benton had to make them all over again, have them all rebound. It must have cost him at least five thousand dollars, which at the time was a lot of money. Today it would be 50000 dollars. But what she wanted, she got. She demanded. Demanded perfection.
Speaker Also, did she did she make this remark to you about the principle being how she.
Speaker If she married Lord Beaverbrook, she’d be Lady Jane’s grandmother.
Speaker Oh, yes, yes. Lay at Lady Jean Campbell, of course, had been a dalliance of Henry Luce’s in about nineteen. Fifty four. Fifty three. And she Claire, with her Marmo sense of humor, entertain Lord Beaverbrook, the great publisher in Great Britain who had more power than just about anybody except Henry Lowe’s. And he was the grandfather of Lady Jean. Therefore, Claire Lou’s sad. Harry, if you’re going to marry this woman. I let my brain collect itself. I’m going to be. Though if she married people that she married and married to Jeanne, then she’d be Lady Jeanne. She yes. She’d be Henry.
Speaker Right.
Speaker If Claire said that if she married Lord Beaverbrook because he was pressing for her hand and if Harry married his granddaughter, Lady Jean Campbell, Claire would be Harry Luce’s grandmother. Is that right? And if Claire if Claire married Lord Beaverbrook and Harry married his granddaughter, Lady Jean Campbell, then Claire Lewis would be Lady Jean. Look, Harry Luce’s grandmother. I’m sorry I missed that.
Speaker So it’s complicated. It is complicated. You have to write it down in the book.
Speaker Just a couple more questions and then. What were the things you liked most about Harry Lewis and what were the things you liked the least about?
Speaker Well, I’ll talk about the things I like least about him first, because there’s so few. His temper was very explosive. Which when you got to know him well, you didn’t marry no was going to come and you just simply sloughed it off. I really think that’s about it. What did I like most about him was his tremendous eagerness to listen to the young. He would ask questions of all of us and my generation all the time. His curiosity, his love of art and his generosity, because to bring his fabled Ming and Tang Dynasty horses and camels across the ocean, to display them in the Villa Taverna for the benefit of the Italian people who came, there was a very generous, very generous gesture. And of course, one of them was damaged and his heart was broken. He cried. And then we looked at various heads of museums and all over Europe to see who could perhaps fix it. And the president of the Banco Commerciality, the Bank of Banco d’Italia, the number one bank in Italy, said, Mr. Lewis, if you’ll let me have a crack at it, I just might be able to do it. Henry Luce couldn’t believe his ears. Of course, this man who we just met at this reception must have been sincere. So he gave him the horse. And this man, the bank president, worked on it for two or three years and gave it back to him totally intact. So he had the luck of the Irish to what I loved about him, too, is his was his holiness. It really was a holy man. He prayed every day. And on Sundays, he there was no Presbyterian church. In those days. There was nothing even Protestant, even vaguely resembling it. And so he used to go to mass with me because Claire, shall we say, went to mass sporadically. She was a sporadic convert, shall we say. But Henry Luce went with me and stood up when I stood up and sat down and went on the kneeler when I kneel, when all the rest of the church went through all the actions. He had his nose deep in his prayer book. But he was doing all the gestures so he wouldn’t take out in the crowd. And he I said, why do you do this, Mr. Lohse? And he said, Because I feel I can give up an hour to God. And that’s the way he was. I love that in him because he was born and raised in Shanghai, the son of a.
Speaker Of course, he was born and raised in Shanghai.
Speaker The son of a missionary. So he came by it honestly. But still, he was a very holy man and he did not want bad ryong words around him. And he did not want ugly things around him. I I admired his character. I admire the way he looked. I admire the way he dressed those wonderful London tailored suits, how beautifully brushed and shined and polished he was, how handsome he was as a result of that, and how he made all the other men just look like nothing.
Speaker It’s interesting what I find interesting about them, because there is a certain, as you describe in the certain of to them.
Speaker Oh, definitely. But they were not. They were not born.
Speaker No, no, the losers were not born into society or grand wise. They simply learned it as they went along. And they were both so dedicated, they were both so focused and both so talented that they got there to the top of society. Everybody wanted them, including the kings and queens of the world, and did matter that they came from humble beginnings.
Speaker OK, let’s take a short break.
Speaker This is why time with such fund read Locarno consummated September 27, 1926, as slim, suave, efficient man who’s politely arching eyebrows repeat the curve of his impeccable stiff cuffs cuffs. Welcome to his modest, comfortable office in Geneva last week. The plenty potent representatives of seven states he who made comfortable to distinguish seven and received seven packets of documents brought by their several bustling secretaries was, of course, sir and Eric Drummond indefatigable and invaluable secretary general of the League of Nations.
Speaker Let’s find out more. All right. What did I do wrong? Should I. Should I go?
Speaker September twenty seventh, nineteen twenty six for a news, Locarno consummated a slim, suave, efficient man who’s politely arching eyebrows repeat the curve of his impeccable stiff cuffs. Welcome to his modest, comfortable office in Geneva last week. The plenty potent representatives of seven states he who made comfortable to distinguish seven and received seven packets of documents brought by their several bustling secretaries was, of course, Sir Eric Drummond, indefatigable and invaluable secretary general of the League of Nations. Time was fun to read. October 18th, 1926, Miscellaneous Bump Bumpkin is the title in Dondi, New York, at the County Fair One Otis Dowlan in tights, flexing his biceps, patted his stomach, pounded his chest, lay on the ground. A plank was laid across his abdomen, an automobile driven toward him. Otis Dowlan in purple, whose face was straining, scowled up at the crowd as the automobile ascended its human bump. The car’s driver, a stupid bumpkin, stole the engine and mid plank strongman. Dowland grimaced, Retched shrieked. The car was pushed away. Strongman was whisked to a hospital where doctors pronounced his vitals to be seriously smashed up.
Speaker Okay.
Speaker Okay. Speed. 30 seconds. Fifteen.
Speaker Rooms of.
