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God and Country - 1.27.04
DISCUSS: THE POLITICS OF GOD


God in America
Religion and the Law
The Politics of God



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"Political leaders should separate themselves from their religious beliefs when making policy statements or decisions."
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Total # of Responses: 531 - 2/5/04
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We have received feedback on this issue from people all across America. Review the graph to the left for a quick snapshot of the responses received to date, or read the responses below.

Todd, SC Strongly Disagree

... should not seperate ...


January 28,2004

A person can not and should not seperate who they are from what they do. What we do and why we do them is a direct result of what we believe. It is not possible to make decisions apart from what we believe. The foundation of our moral and civil law is the law of God, and the purpose of the law, and government for that matter, is not to protect error, but rather uphold that which is profitable for all. To have Godly influences in our policy making is not imposing religion, but it is an acknowledgement of the PRINCIPLES that have proven themselves to be effective throughout our nation's history.

Emily, TX Agree

... influenced by many factors ...


January 28,2004

The most striking comment on last night's show was the idea of the "sacred commons" versus the "naked commons" needing to move toward the "civil commons." I believe we are all influenced by many factors, but we operate best when we make decisions based on the common good. I believe we do need a Lincoln, or someone of his stature, who will encourage us to lift ourselves above the need for divisiveness. Perhaps the separation of church and state was instituted so that we could come together as a civic body with our freedoms intact. If we can rise above these cultural differences, perhaps we can begin to heal our relationships with other nations.

Thank you for an excellent program. I look forward to viewing the next one!

Emily

Jack, WA Strongly Disagree

... from one frame work ...


January 28,2004

Even though political leaders may be elected by a majority of a particular religion it is their duty to represent all religions and nonreligous people. To make a decision on from one frame work of thinking would be unfair to all the others who were not able to get their own leader elected. In time it will wind up like Iran or other countries who have leaders of their countries who impose their beliefs on all people.

Ed Sloan, NC Strongly Disagree

... final judge ...


January 28,2004

Every aspect of our lives should be driven by our faith in the teachings of Jesus Christ. Paul teaches us to pray always. The Bibles teaches us to love our neighbor as ourselves. That is the kind of person that I want to represent and make decisions for me. I shudder to think what this nation is heading for if the liberal politicians get their way in legalizing what God rejects as abomination and sin. God is the supreme and final judge, not our lawmakers.

Jerry, MI Strongly Disagree

... elect and promote ...


January 28,2004

Dear PBS,
Without a belief in God almighy we will not be building anything stable. Two citys were destroyed by God early in the Old Testament, which shows the need to elect and promote those in government, with a strong understanding of the Bible. Simply read "The Millers Tale" by Geoffrey Chaucer. It will show you how easy it is to fool the people who don't read the Bible accounts. Thank you so much for a chance to be counted. Marriage is a sacred part of a believers life, not a choice of those wanting my tax dollars to cover their sick and unhealthy relationships. May God bless them with understanding and conviction of heart so they may help our Nation grow.

Bill, CA Strongly Agree

... no way to control ...


January 28,2004

This question seems to be confusing a lot of people who have expressed opinions here.

There is of course no way to control or eradicate any politicians personal religious beliefs, but politicians are sworn to uphold the laws (which are secular), NOT their interpretation of religious teachings. Any politician who can't keep the two straight shouldn't be elected.

Jon, VT Strongly Disagree

... religious faith ...


January 28,2004

I think this is absolutely right. I should not have to feel that I am any less of an American just because I do not believe in a God at all. Every time my government pushes even a little religious faith on me, I in turn lose a little faith in my government and some of the many things it stands for and supports.

Jim, MD Undecided

... on Christian principles ...


January 28,2004

I feel as a Christian I must say this first this country was built on Christian principals, that gives us freedom of religion by it self, second if you will read the Bible you will see that homosexuality is wrong and same sex marridge is blsphamy,

Edward, MI Strongly Agree

... unconstitutional ...


January 28,2004

Religion in Government

The separation between church and state is essential to the development of our government, as the basis distinction between religion and government is that religion is set to be a system of unalterable rules to live by, as allegedly written by God, while our government recognizes Man’ law to be a system of evolving rules, which must be altered as our society evolves.

The concept that the “founding fathers” had intentions that we should look to in order to adhere to the principles of our declaration of independences and constitution is completely off track. It is well known that those signers of these documents were lead to compromise in order to create a document they could sign. Despite Thomas Jefferson’ ability to articulate it in his drafting of the declaration of independence, his ownership of slaves establishes unequivocally that he personally did not recognize the equality of men or their inalienable right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Those who gathered together to work out the particularities of our union were only representative. They were not necessarily the leader of the revolution simply because they possessed diplomatic skills. We must look to the clear language of the documents for ‘the intent of the compromise’ and not any subjective intent of the drafter.

The Bill of Right, which had to be made as amendments to the constitution, specifically indicating that the drafter did not have in their mind the thought that ‘the people’ felt necessary when they wrote the constitution. They only providing for the bill of Attainder and Ex post facto laws.

It like me, as an attorney, drafting a clause in a contract between two parties and the court looking 200 year later to my subjective intent in interpreting the terms of the contract. The contract reads the parties shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; and because some historian concludes that I was a religious man, that the clear prohibition was only a limited restriction. The drafters were forced to compromise their own beliefs in forging this union and prepared documentation that was acceptable to all parties. They did not eliminate religion from society, only from government, by prohibiting it from establishing unalterable beliefs or interfering with the unalterable beliefs of others.

The parties to the contract are ‘the people’ who are the true founders of this nation and the government. The religious diversity among ‘the people’ was just as or more diverse then, than it is now. Although we consider all Christians as being of one religion the difference between Methodist, Calvinist, Puritans and the numerous fraction of Christianity where not considered so harmonious then. The intent was clear, that the hard line principles of religion were not to be imposed upon ‘the people’ by the government. The agreement was not that religious beliefs other than Christian were not to be imposed and the religious beliefs of the framers or drafter of language is irrelevant.

Accordingly any religious belief that leads to an unalterable conclusion to be imposed on American citizens is unconstitutional.

Brian Walk, OR Strongly Disagree

... change the rules ...


January 28,2004

We are a Nation that was founded on and by our God . Its the minority that is trying to make laws and change the rules and wishes of the majority. the reason that this happens is because those minorities are more politically active !!!

Chelaye, WA Agree

... right from wrong ...


January 28,2004

It amazes me that many people believe morality, integrity, compassion and other positive character traits are a product of religion. I've never seen evidence of that. In fact it seems most of the hatred and greed in the world stems from religion. I would feel much more secure if my political leaders were able to tell right from wrong themselves without constantly having to refer to some religious doctrine. It scares me to think the only thing keeping religious people from committing murder and mayhem is their fear of punishment by a god.

Sharon Dis, TN Strongly Disagree

... God Bless The USA!!!!! ...


January 28,2004

I belive we need our President,and other goverment officals to show their belief in God and Country.It's about time we can use God in public and not be afraid of what others will say or do. It's great!! God Bless The USA!!!!!

Philiip, NV Disagree

... has been going on for far too long ...


January 28,2004

We were definately founded as a Christian nation. There are a lot of questions that I would like to ask those who seem to think that thwy have the answers as to what the future will bring. The bible tells us what the future will be. Son't forget the "nor prevent the free exercise thereof," clause in the First Amendment. The preventing the free exercise thereof has been going on for far too long now, in spite of the first Amendment. I could go on and on. As a born again Christian Who beleives in God through Jesus Christ, I can only say that, we are on a slippery slope, and to allow this war against our freedoms to continue, will eventually lead us all into captivity. Bible reading beleivers will understand the meaning of this.
Thank you
PCS

Elroy, TX Strongly Agree

... nor ever was a part of the common law ...


January 28,2004

I am disappointed that so many Christians think Jefferson was a Christian.

Some quotes from Jefferson:

And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerve in the brain of Jupiter. But may we hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this most venerated reformer of human errors.

-Thomas Jefferson, Letter to John Adams, April 11, 1823

Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.

-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814

http://www.nobeliefs.com/jefferson.htm

Larry, AL Strongly Agree

... political panhandlers ...


January 28,2004

Superstitious politicians are dangerous helmsmen for the ship of state. Superstitious politicians are not statesmen, but rather political panhandlers for public piety.

Peggy, HI Strongly Agree

... based on the rule ...


January 28,2004

Policy statements or decisions should be based on the rule of law. The Constitution is the law of the land We have laws in this country for a reason. That reason is to maintain a civil society.

Robert, CA Strongly Agree

... Congress or the Supreme Court ...


January 28,2004

I just need to ask all of those making references to abortion: please name for me the anti-abortion political or *religious* leader on whom you would wager 'your immortal soul' that he or she has never paid for an abortion for herself, his wife, his (or her husband's)mistress, or his/her daughter or son's girlfriend? (Having no immortal soul, I am ineligible to vote here, but could I do so I might well name Billy Graham, but that's where my list ends . . . certainly no one would be so foolish as to name the current president or any member of the Congress or the Supreme Court!) Nuf said.

Jim, AZ Strongly Disagree

... subject to the voter ...


January 28,2004

We need freedom of speech in our political process. If a leader expresses his belief he is subject to the voter as far as his or her public service is concerned. We can't control the freedoms of expression in public except in the ballot box.

Troy, CA Disagree

... do not live up ...


January 28,2004

If a person declares his belief in God, he will act according to those beliefs. In this day, deeds not words will attest his beliefs, otherwise he will sink in satanic fancies. This is how we are tested to see which one we will follow. If our deeds do not live up to our words, by what proof have we believed?

Jeff, TN Strongly Agree

... would someone disagree ...


January 28,2004

What if the question were: 'the manager of my state employee retirement fund should not allow . . .' - would someone disagree?

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