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Dont Dammit! You will kill many animals and have a big problem with money which China already has. So dont Dammit( get it dam it up ) hahaha

Chaise Housley
This dam should really not be built. I think it is stupid to do it because if they ever want to drain the thing, there will be a huge layer of mud. It will ruin a lot of cool stuff. After the dam there will be a really violent river, if a little kid was to go and look at the river and slip. He would be caught and he would die.

Haley Thompson
Smithfield, Utah
I think this dam is a really bad idea, it forces people out of their homes. It might help people but it endangers a lot too.

Sharice Hanks
North Logan, Utah
i think the dam is a bad idea.

Ryan Barker
Smithfield, Utah
This "DAM" project is the worst idea in the whole "DAM" world. It will be a disgrace to all other "DAM" projects ever, because it will kill tons of endangered animals. The "DAM" water will force people to leave their homes, and it will make earthquakes and landslides worse. I say they destroy the "DAM" thing, and quit building it. BTW, what did the fish day when it swam into a brick wall? "DAM" Oh, and by the way, "Don't drink the 'DAM' water! It has 'BASS TURDS' in it!"

Daniel Ashcroft
I "think" (very rarley) that they should stop crying over it and let it be built.

Fred Dickinson
Peoria, Illinois
Since 1918 the one thing all the leaders of china have agreed upon is the need to build the dam, Stop the flooding and generate energy sufficient to build and attract investment in industry and provide employment to the mid west, reversing the migration of people to the eastern regions seeking employment and causing disruption in their society. Yes the dam must be built for the future of chinese generations to come. They now have hope.

i am currently studying at college this site has been really useful and i think th building of the dam is great

i think that the Chinese people need more ways of making electricity and stuff instead of polluting the air. Many ppl think that building the Three Gorges Dams is a bad idea but there is another side to the story, which actually makes them benefit. To all you people who put this together: Thx for making this interesting website! It's so cool!

I believe the Three Gorges Dam is just a slow but sure homicide because if you are going to build a dam that enormous,you put it somewhere where it's not prone to earthquakes or anything that could possibly make it collapse that easily.I mean,you just DON'T put a dam that's on a piece of Earth that is prone to earthquakes and with 3,000,000 people below it!It is totally ridiculous!And China in particular,don't seem to be the best carpenters on the planet,with their last dam break.It just doesn't seem like a very intellegent thing to do.Yes,it will make China stand out,but by putting people's lives at risk,it is not the solution to popularity.Like I said before,all it is,is a slow but sure homicide.

I have been studying China for 2 years with 6th graders. This year we discovered the baiji and pink river dolphins. We were totally entralled. The baiji because it's like the sea unicorn and the imagine a pink river dolphin... We also found out about the the "Three Gorges Dam" and the controversy around it. In the beginning we couldn't understand why the project was concieved but as we researched further we learned about the milenary struggles of the people of China living around the river. At the same time that this river has been the mother, providing not only food but also being a huge source of income for hundreds of years, it is also the "dragon" that floods cities and drowns thousands. My students and I have been left and are still reflecting on the fragility of man against the uncontrollable forces of nature. Building this dam represents a grand illusion or hope as well as a historical opportunity to control manage and profit from the Yangtze. On the one side we hear the voice of the "Chinese prophet" Dai Quing and on the other hand the voices of those who believe they can succeed. We are left with unanswerable questions for now. Will the dam be able to withstand the next big flood? Will it remain standing in the event of an earthquake? Will the infrastructure be manageable? If it doesn't it will certainly affect China's financial partners. My students will be in High School when this project finalizes. This has become a lifelong project for them as well as myself because it will teach us either that some things are better left to the course of nature or it will become the trend for the future. Regardless of the outcome both entail sacrifices which my students and I are asking? What should we sacrifice? The baiji, historical artifacts, evidence of culture? living around the Yangtze or moving away? Is there anyway there could have been a compromise. Following Dai Quings advice, maybe smaller dams could have been built. My students and I are sad about these wondrous creatures. One of the solutions that they came up with is to build environmental sanctuaries for these animals. It reminds me of the Babel Tower which has become a symbol of confusion. China didn't need this huge project to prove it's greatness to the world. It is so rich in it's history and culture.

I am very dissapionted that China would think to do a thing like re-locating people who have lived in one spot for generations, killing already endangered species, and submerging history and temples, just for the sake of a dam.

Brianna Cousins
Hello! My name is Brianna Cousins. I am in 8th grade. I found this site through my teacher, and we were using it for a discussion at my school. I thought the site was VERY informative and it was interesting, also. Some of the sites made me fall asleep! I just wanted to voice MY opinion on the Three Gorges Dam! I am a really big fan of history, and ancient civilizations, and so on and so forth. When I heard that all these artifacts were being destroyed...Lets just say I was a little bit upset! I was telling my class how important our history is...and how if we didn't have history, we wouldn't have our present, or our future. I was really upset, because these artifacts could tell us SO very much about our history, things that may help us in the future. I was thinking...what if there had been a Y2K? What if we lost ALL of our electricity, our power....and we knew nothing about how our ancestors made it through without them? Most people today have had all of those things, electricity, running water, etc. What would we do if we lost them all, and we had never learned how to live without them? You see, history is our base. Our foundation. If we didn't have artifacts, and archeology...we would never learn about how we came to be so successful! We wouldn't have learned about how people grew, how they learned....we wouldn't even know how we came to America, or China, or Europe. I'm not saying the Dam shouldn't be built...or that it should. I'm just saying that we need to remember how very important our history is, before we destroy it...before we lose it. Thanks for listening. Bye!
--Brianna Cousins, Grade 8

I am a Freshman in high school, this is what I believe~ The Three Gorges Dam is in the process of being built on the Yangtze River, (the long river), in China. The Yangtze is the world s third longest river, 3,937 miles long. It s ranked third behind the Nile in Egypt and the Amazon in Brazil. When the dam is complete in 2009, it will be a total of 1.3 miles long. It will be made up of a 610 foot high wall of rock running the whole length. That s enough rock to make 100 Empire State Buildings. The dam was started in 1994. In 2004, the construction will be finished, and the reservoir will begin to fill with water. By 2009, it will be finished and ready to use. Large cargoes and barges will use an elevator that will take approximately two hours to go through. I believe that the government should have done anything in their power to prevent the damage to the economy and the preserve the history of China. I am against the Three Gorges Dam in China.

In 1998, China had a catastrophic flood. Four thousand people died, 14 million were left homeless, and there was over $24 billion in economic losses. Building the dam will cost over $30 billion, however people who are in favor of the project say that the dam is going to prevent something like that from ever happening again because it would stop the overflow of the river s water. When the dam is finished, it will produce as much power as 15-18 nuclear power plants produce. Many citizens that will have to move because of the project will be moving to a better home. Those homes, which some are being provided, will have running water and electricity, whereas right now, they have no running water and have to go to the city s well to collect their water.

China has had a rough time and no government to help them. This part of China has no sewage system, so they have no other choice but to dump their waste in the river so that it flows out to sea. When the dam is complete, the sewage will be backed up into the reservoir. As of now, 265 billion gallons of raw sewage are dumped into the river annually. When the reservoir is complete, it will backflow 360 miles up river to the Chong Qing. That is a distance equal to nearly half the length of California. The Three Gorges project has been engineered to store over 5 trillion gallons of water and to withstand an earthquake of 7.0 on the Richter scale. The reservoir will allow 10,000-ton freighters to enter the nation's interior, which currently limits access to boats under 1,500 tons. In addition to increasing commercial shipping access to China's interior, the government says the dam will control devastating floods and provide much-needed electrical power to China's growing cities. (Across the Yangtze 1) When 2009 arrives and the dam is complete, the resettlement of 1.5 billion people will occur. The farmers relocating will have to leave ten percent of their total land behind. History will be left under water. Thirteen cities, 140 towns, and 1,351 villages will be submerged. Thirteen hundred well-known archeological sites will be lost forever under water and over 1,600 factories and mines will be submerged. They will do this because the reservoir is going to be so big that it will fill up with that much water.

I don t think that the government of China has taken into consideration other citizens opinions. The government should not have been able to build the dam without the country s point of view first on what they believe. Thousands of people will have to be relocated so where else. Many houses and land have been in someone s family or hundreds of years. Although they do have a dictatorship, they should have opinions of the people who were and are effected by this major change in history. I think that people have the right to make decisions and have the right to vote, having a democracy.

In conclusion, I believe that the government should have done anything in their power to prevent doing such damage with the economy, and to preserve the history of China. I think that there could have been a better way to prevent the loss of the life, history, and love of homes and families. I am against the Three Gorges Dam on the Yangtze River in China.

Kent, United Kingdom
I would like to start by thanking everyone, who has put together a really superb website, it has so much useful information. Secondly, i would like to thank the people that developed such a controversial project, because teachers love it!

Shi Rong Zhuang
New York, NY
The Three Gorest Dam is a great endeavor for the chinese people. It's a great environmental project becuase it provides electric energy equivalent to 15 nuclear power plants without the dangerous radiation problems. It's a testament to the chinese strength in world economy, politics, and industrialism.

What is really disheartening is the fact that millions of chinese people who have their ancestry as part of the river will have to be removed from their homes and relocated. It's the history, culture, environmental astheics, and people people that are involved that make this saddening, but there is always a price to pay for progree. And with great progress comes along great prices, but the benifits are enormous compared to the light costs.

Other countries have tried great, risky, and dangerous projects of gigantic scales before. The examples I will not get into but it's all too easy to point out. The reason why the chinese are getting such critique is because we live today in the twentyith century where everybody is too overly concerned about the environment, even while putting their own well being on the line.

To sum it all up, I believe the great gorges damn should have the right to be built. The international community has no role in a Chinese domestic affair. However I would like to point out the potential problems that might arise, and that political leaders should not be afraid to abandon it for the sake of losing their money or pride. I'm no chinese nationalist fanatic but this is my thought and what I feel is just.

Isn't it interesting what people think they can accomplish? There are many thing I would like to say, but most of them have already been said previously. I will then comment on something that seems to be overlooked.
In Egypt, they have a dam called the Aswan High Dam on the Nile. Now, this was suppossed to be a great help to farmers, because it would control the flooding, which the Nile had always done every year. Now, the Nile no more floods. Because of this, much needed silt is no longer deposited on the fields. Fertilizer must now be relied upon which are not as efficent, among other concerns. Nature had taken care of this forever, then man comes along and thinks he can improve. I just hope we collectively learn before it is too late....

Jeff Harrison
greensboro nc
These people are a bunch of backwards hillbilly idiots! You think that maybe they would learn from the mistakes that both we and Russia have made in the past hundred years when we were developing; for a people that relishes in their ancestory and supposedly want to be part of the modern world they are making a complete mess both environmentally and historically, and are endangering themselves in the process.

London, UK
I am a university student studying Civil Engineering at Imperial College. My year have a project to look at the Three Gorges Dam from different perspectives of which I was given Greenpeace. At the start this was very difficult as I thought that the Dam was a good idea as the environment would be benefitted (less coal burnt) and there people would benefit in a general way (less flood threats), but as I researched the Dam through the eyes of a Greenpeace representative, I found there was more risks that met the eye.
As it said in the programme an area that was expected to be protected by the dam from flooding, did just that in 1998, killing 4000 people. So no benefit there.
There are also cheaper and just as effective ways to produce energy. So no benefit there.
The sedimentation removal method is very experimental, but the risks I have observed from an engineers point of view are quite low, so no positive or negative basis are attached to this.
From a social side, I can see no benefit for the people who lived in villages by the river and the 1300 cultural sites being destroyed is a terrible thing to take away, I don't think anyone really has a right to do that. But things have to progress so no-one can talk about that for too long.
The river will be polluted after the dam due to the factories and towns that are submerged as well as all the sewage that is currently pumped in. I think it is a bad idea to build the dam, but I believe that there is no chance that the construction will stop.
This website has been a great resource for my studies, all credit to you.

HOlly Martineau
I think it is a great idea because you won't have risk of flooding. so you can save people while you produce a safer way of getting electicity for your country's needs.

Jeff Bird
Smithfeild Utah
Building the dam across the Yangtse river would be bad because you would destroy a lot of land and force animals and people to move out of there homes. And if it would to brake it would kill lots of people and damage a lot of land.

Nicole Perkes
Logan Utah
I think that the dam is a good idea. It will help reduse pollution by not burning coal. It will reduse flooding, which will let people live in their homes. If there is a flood it will make the families be homeless, or even possibly die. I also think it is bad idea because of animal and humans habitat. It will make the animals and humans move out of their homes because of the area it will cover. It will break if there is an earthquake, which will make flooding even worse. There are many good and bad things that will or will not happen if the dam is built or not.

Travis Berryhill
Smithfield, Utah
I think that the people building the dam should not because people will leave there home land that was part of there family for generations to generations and how would you like it to come and take your home nock down your life and take yuor family to a place that you never liked and they are ruining animals habitats and soon they will have no were to go becuase they have kept moving until there was only 100 acers becasue the goverment wants more land and people want have anything to live for.

I am a 13-year-old secondary one pupil of RI in Sigapore and we recently had some roleplay involving the Three Gorges Dam. The class was split into 5 different interest groups (tourists, villagers, environmentalists, engineers, economists) and 2 commitees, one roleplaying as representatives from world finanacial institutions and another as chinese officials. I must say that this site has proved a valuable source of research for our project. The end verdict the class came up with was to NOT build the dam as there are other new forms of producing electricity which may be cheaper and more efficient, and also, the effectiveness of the dam does not justify its high cost.

Lawrenceville GA
Wow. What a show. It is hard to believe that world banks would refuse funding for the greatest and most dangerous threat to the environment, yet there are a handful of other US banks willing to do so. And $60 million is wasted on currupt officials, engineers and poor materials. This is a disaster waiting to happen, that will kill millions of people almost instantly when the dam bursts. I am sure we all saw the gentleman laughing hard when he stated how much money was coming from the US. He will be living many miles away from the dam when it breaks.

Many pro-dam writers speak of "maintaining the river" as being a must. Please remember that since its creation the river has maintained itself quite well. Such is the ebb & flow of nature, simple and self correcting. Human's feeble attempts to control or "maintain" nature is in vain. There are many ways to work with the elements that are productive, not destructive.

Other writers spoke of not interfering with another nation's issues. All of us should remember that another nations pollution is our pollution. Their bad air travels the world over, we all breath it. Their bad water flowing into the oceans gets into the fish that we all consume. Our health is their health and vice verce. This is true the world over, no matter where you live. There is too much scientific proof to ignore these facts of life on a small planet. We need to clean ourselves up here in the US and assist others whenever and where ever possible.

The Chinese government clearly has a poor record of implementing much, if any, type of environmental protection programs in its pre-dam eras. With continued dumping of raw sewage into the water ways, the three gorges area will only become worse.

Energy needs can be met by use of alternative sources and technologies, same as here in the US or anywhere else in the world.

The Chinese people as a whole are not stupid, merely repressed and kept ignorant. If allowed and encouraged to do so, these creative and brilliant peoples can come up with solutions to their own problems that are clean, innovative, and beneficial to all involved. You may claim ignorance yourself, in your involvement, but that still doesn't change the basic fact...You are involved. Great program.

Jing Fu
Atlanta , GA
Quite unfortunately, the documentary is strongly biased and inaccurate. I have a good friend, who, alas, was one of the researchers who worked on the prove-of-concept for the Dam in the 80s. It was those research, based on solid science, that paved the way for the Dam, not sheer political will.

The original proposal called for a 150-meter-tall structure, and it was approved by Chinese leaders. There are a lot of opponents, but journalists like Dai Chin didn't really carry as much weight as she claimed in the documentary. You may find it surprising that the main opponents were Chongqing city and China's Department of Transportation. Chongqing is the major city upstream from the Dam. Both the city and the DoT criticized the plan because a 150-meter dam will not make a lake high enough to allow big ships to reach the city.

So there was a long delay, and a very public debate. In the end, with a kind of democratic process rarely seen in China, its legislature adopted the new proposal, a 185-meter dam.

The animation in the documentary is also quite questionable. The thickness of the base of the Dam is about a kilometer thick, so it does not exactly look like a wall if you cut it up.


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