Bill Moyers Journal: Impeachment: The Conversation Continues

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Posted by: Amanda Dream | May 23, 2009 12:49 AM

Michael V.; I assume you forgot about James Guckert/Jeff Gannon, the homosadist prostitute and erstwhile White House press corps member assigned to ask Dub "softball" questions. Records indicated regular visits far in excess of those necessary for news gathering, and at odd hours. These visits correspond to the President's presence at the White House (He vacationed plenty and often raised funds out of town.). Closer scrutiny might uncover Camp David, Kennebunkport and Crawford Ranch sessions. They might even have met in a secure undisclosed location or mile-highed on Air Force One. Dub has a history of same sex activity in Skull and Bones and other all male organizations. Gay is OK, except when the partaker is a gay basher and rights denier.

Posted by: Grady Lee Howard | October 6, 2008 1:11 PM

everything but a blowjob in the oval office. however, I'm sure Bush has been on his knees in front of Chaney once or twice.

Posted by: Michael V. | October 5, 2008 12:08 PM

I was wondering how Bank of America morphed into a South Carolina firm owned by Saudi Royals? Anybody know? I was once a customer there and it was an Italian bank centered in California, San Francisco.

Posted by: Yellowbird | October 4, 2008 7:31 PM

Bush is the worst president in American history. Bush facilitated the 9/11 attacks. Subsequently, Bush lied to Congress and the American people relative to the reasons for invading Iraq. Bush purposefully misled Congress and the American people. Then, Bush murdered more than 4,000 United States service members. And Bush wounded more than 30,000 United States service members. In torturing prisoners of war, Bush patently violated the Geneva Convention. Bush unlawfully wiretapped United States citizens. In using “signing statements” to challenge hundreds of laws passed by Congress, Bush violated the Constitution. Bush has ignored global warming. Bush is guilty of criminal negligence relative to the response to Hurricane Katrina. Bush disobeys our democratic values and Constitution. Bush is a disgrace to the United States. Submitted by Andrew Yu-Jen Wang B.S., Summa Cum Laude, 1996 Messiah College, Grantham, PA

Posted by: Andrew Yu-Jen Wang | October 4, 2008 7:00 PM

Two questions: Last week, when questioned about the cover of the New Yorker Magazine, Senator Obama concluded his answer by stating that the New Yorker has their 1st Amendment rights. Ironic because just days before the New Yorker incident Obama voted to kill the 4th Amendment. How regal to be able to select and choose which Amendments to support and ignore. Will the 1st Amendment be next? A few weeks ago Carl Rove failed to appear for a Congressional Hearing. Rove says he will testify but not under oath and not if recorded. Why does Rove expect a right to secrecy & privacy when he and his cronies can wiretap & record any American Citizen without their knowing it?

Posted by: Phil Parshall | July 24, 2008 1:53 AM

Sorry for the double posting. My mistake. Jeanne Zindorf San Luis Obispo

Posted by: jeannezindorf | June 13, 2008 7:04 PM

Re: Congressman Dennis Kucinich’s Resolution for Impeachment of President George Bush made before the House of Representatives on June 9, 2008. I immediately responded to my Representative with an open letter to Congress, Speaker of the House Pelosi, with a follow-up call. I also contacted Congressman Kucinich expressing my full support. Mainstream media is ignoring this most historic event. Please Mr. Moyer do not allow Congressman Kucinich’s most historic and critical Resolution for Impeachment to disappear without a whimper. Make it the News that it is. This is the letter I sent to Congress. Dear Congresswoman Capps and Members of Congress, Thank you for the update on bills you have helped get passed. It was helpful in understanding all that is being done on our behalf. However, my primary concern at this point is if President Bush is able, and the Patriots Act did enable him, to declare war on Iran without Congress, and then using his commander-in-chief status to declare martial law. When that happens all your works and efforts are for not. Congress will not have any power to make any laws, block, prevent or control a President who has declared himself the sole authority on all matters...

Posted by: jeannezindorf | June 13, 2008 6:59 PM

Re: Congressman Dennis Kucinich’s Resolution for Impeachment of President George Bush made before the House of Representatives on June 9, 2008. I immediately responded to my Representative with an open letter to Congress, Speaker of the House Pelosi, with a follow-up call. I also contacted Congressman Kucinich expressing my full support. Mainstream media is ignoring this most historic event. Please Mr. Moyer do not allow Congressman’s Kucinich’s most historic and critical Resolution for Impeachment disappear without a whimper. Make it the News that it is. This is the letter I sent to Congress. Dear Congresswoman Capps and Members of Congress, Thank you for the update on bills you have helped get passed. It was helpful in understanding all that is being done on our behalf. However, my primary concern at this point is if President Bush is able, and the Patriots Act did enable him, to declare war on Iran without Congress, and then using his commander-in-chief status to declare martial law. When that happens all your works and efforts are for not. Congress will not have any power to make any laws, block, prevent or control a President who has declared himself the sole authority on all matters of...

Posted by: jeannezindorf | June 13, 2008 6:47 PM

The Bush administration’s actions and policies have been so detrimental to our nation (the campaign of deceit that led us to war, the justification and practice of torture, the establishment of secret prisons, the abrogation of basic human rights) that it seems the essence of our country is dying. The precedents that this president will leave behind are malignancies that need be excised. For the sake of our democracy, our future security, our standing in the world, and our souls, President Bush should be impeached.

Posted by: Jeffrey W. Bush | June 12, 2008 3:58 PM

I am more proud than ever today to call Congressman Dennis Kucinich my friend. Despite the fragile state of our country we need to prosecute this serial felon, traitor and mass murderer George Walker Bush before he leaves office. I was watching him on the BBC last night all coked up and reciting to the Slovenians a retard version of his Iran lines. What an abomination! What a "sack of feces"!

Posted by: Jack Martin | June 11, 2008 12:22 PM

Impeach Bush now.

Posted by: Raz Sage | June 9, 2008 11:32 PM

It isn't too late. Our leaders should be impeached then tried for treason and crimes against humanity. Could it be that all members of the house are afraid of this pair? Or is everyone receiving gratuities they prefer to not be made public? What hold does our pres and vice pres have over the entire congress? With the rise of Blackwater, are they all fearful for their lives?

Posted by: Nina | January 10, 2008 12:44 AM

Hopefully this attempt of mine to post a link to Congressman Wexler's web page will succeed. See comment I posted below earlier today which lacks a link. In short if you want hearings to begin, please put your name on the list for reasons given in the comment below. http://wexlerwantshearings.com/

Posted by: Harry | January 9, 2008 3:29 PM

If you would like to see Cheney impeachment hearings begin, and if you haven't already done so, put your name on the list at US Representative Wexler's web page, WexlerWantsHearings.com. Yes, another "petition", but for a unique opportunity where timing is important. The name list was set up about December 14 and may be taken down in January after it has served its purpose. The creation of the name list web page about Dec 14 was a next move after major media, mainstream media, specifically large newspapers, out and out rejected an op-ed calling for immediate hearings which had been written and signed by Representatives Wexler, Gutierrez, and Baldwin - all members of the House Judiciary Committee where the impeachment resolution, H Res 333 / H Res 799, has been on hold. The list of names of Americans who want hearings to begin is to be plopped down, figuratively, in front of the HJC after they get back to work on Jan 15 as evidence that the impeachment effort is not of a fringe group but of a substantial group of Americans. The larger the list, the more likely to convince. So far it is not that big when you...

Posted by: Harry | January 9, 2008 12:50 PM

I don't understand why we are here, 7+ years into the Bush "Presidency", and wondering about impeachment at this point. The fish rots starting at the head, and in year 2000 it should have been clear to anyone who wasn't brain dead that George Bush was (and of course still is). The really troubling thing is that this individual was foisted on us, and it was done with half the American electorate voting for him and his cast of evil puppeteers. We still need to impeach him and the "Vice President", yes. Of course that's true. But better yet, we need to institute a baseline test of neurological competency to hold that office. If such a test had been in place in 2000, we wouldn't be in the fix we're in now.

Posted by: Wally Klingensmith | January 4, 2008 10:44 PM

This isn't about democrat or republican, it's about America and our constitution - it could be either party abusing the presidency. We have a group of individuals in this administration, not just Cheney and Bush, that are on the path of authoritarianism, or fascism for that matter. They behave ignorantly with no knowledge of history, geography, human rights or the constitution - which is specifically written to limit the power of a president. The fact that most of this administration's top legal advisors have resigned on an ongoing basis over the course of this administration is telling. When their mandated periods of silence expire, I believe this administration will have enough evidence against it to put them behind bars. That is, however, if the judiciary and media aren't all corporate friends and relatives and we as citizens still have freedom of speech!!!

Posted by: frank | November 5, 2007 1:04 AM

This isn't about democrat or republican, it's about America and our constitution - it could be either party abusing the presidency. We have a group of individuals in this administration, not just Cheney and Bush, that are on the path of authoritarianism, or fascism for that matter. They behave ignorantly with no knowledge of history, geography, human rights or the constitution - which is specifically written to limit the power of a president. The fact that most of this administration's top legal advisors have resigned on an ongoing basis over the course of this administration is telling. When their mandated periods of silence expire, I believe this administration will have enough evidence against it to put them behind bars. That is, however, if the judiciary and media aren't all corporate friends and relatives and we as citizens still have freedom of speech!!!

Posted by: frank | November 5, 2007 12:55 AM

So Bush is like Mussolini, Hitler, and Stalin... is this really where we're at? Didn't Naomi Wolf work for the Clinton/Gore campaign... good source to use

Posted by: Jesse | October 28, 2007 1:37 AM

To Lee Partide commentary on July 14: Regarding the comparison of Bush to Hitler.... Please read the book "The End of America" by Naomi Wolf. She has researched history and has found a pattern or a blueprint for destroying democracy for the purpose of establishing a dictatorship. She found that the Bush Administration is employing all the techniques that Mussolini, Hitler, & Stalin have used to gain more power for their own agendas.

Posted by: Sue S. | October 27, 2007 11:33 PM

I fail to understand why so much money and time was spent to impeach Bill Clinton, and NOTHING is done about Bush and Cheney who have committed so many impeachable and even treasonable offenses. Is everyone just asleep, or is our entire government in the hands of Corporate Globe?

Posted by: Lyn Miner | October 27, 2007 7:12 PM

If we are hated around the whole world, then why has Europe been electing "pro-American" candidates? What laws have been broken? Clinton broke laws. Didn't Sandy Berger go into the National Archive to steal all documents pertaining to Clinton's strategy on Bin Laden just before the 9/11 Commission was about to meet? Didn't he do so by stuffing the highest of classified documents down his pants and socks? Isn't he a "unofficial" adviser for Hillary? Why did Berger do this? There is only one reason he would.

Posted by: Jesse | October 26, 2007 2:57 AM

What a shame that this is even a debate. The Bush Cheney administration have lied to and spied on American citizens, have broken laws, have disregarded and disgraced the Constitution, have made made us one of the most disliked countries on earth. Remind me what the reasons for not impeaching them are?

Posted by: Justin | October 21, 2007 10:09 PM

Kucinich is my favorite long lost Beatle

Posted by: Jesse Norman | October 5, 2007 6:35 PM

How can you have a discussion about impeachment and not include Dennis Kucinich, the only true democratic candidate for President in 2008, and his bill HR 333, calling for impeachment?

Posted by: Sandi Tanco | October 5, 2007 3:30 PM

I suppose if I said things you liked you would be okay with me posting as much as I do. Instead of actually trying to argue the points I make you insult me. I have chronic kidney failure so I can't do much, so that explains my availability. My question to you is, why are you paying attention to what times I am posting? I have yet to look at what time someone has posted their opinions.

Posted by: Jesse Norman | September 26, 2007 11:17 AM

Jesse Norman, You sure do post a lot here. Long, long angry messages at all odd hours. Might want to take a break there, bud.

Posted by: leap1 | September 24, 2007 11:40 AM

Every President would be impeached then

Posted by: Jesse Norman | September 24, 2007 11:08 AM

In deference to the late Johnny Cochran . . . IF THERE IS A BREACH ! YOU MUST IMPEACH !

Posted by: wabidoux | September 23, 2007 12:13 PM

Come on Jay, you're about as independent as Kato Kaelin. The only way you're independent is if you hover between the democratic party and the green party. "Refuse to believe the obvious" is your code for saying "I have no proof of what I'm talking about". I blame Bush for a lot. He did nothing about Bin Laden before 9/11, even though he was only President for less than nine months. Bush should not have given the Taliban a month so Bin Laden could hide in the mountains. It was his ego over our military might that had him give the Taliban time to hand over Bin Laden. That was a foolish thing to do. He has yet to seal both borders even though we have good intelligence showing terrorists have come over both borders. They stopped building the fence that was put into law a while ago. Bush is allowing illegals keep on stealing our jobs and lowering our wages of jobs we do have because of competition by the illegals making less than minimum wage. We should rescind NAFTA because of the outsourcing of our jobs and made Mexico even more corrupt than it was. Oh, Clinton adopted...

Posted by: Jesse Norman | September 22, 2007 9:29 AM

Well spoken! The question is WHY? Then it is WHAT CAN BE DONE? Impeachment may not happen, those in Washington do not seem to be listening. It may all come down to our vote in the next ellection. I had an advisor tell me one time that “the best predictor of the future is the past.” It is undeniable that history tends to repeat itself once it fades from social consciousness. When it comes to deciding how to vote in the next election, it may be wise to take a lesson from the past and vote for someone who is in favor of Getting Out of Iraq and moving toward a diplomatic/mentoring/facilitation solution. Below are some comparisons that point out the importance of this decision. Her are some facts I looked up comparing the death statistics of Iraq and Viet Nam. Iraq Deaths First 4 years = 3794 Viet Nam Deaths First 4 years 1956- 60 = 9 Second 4 years 1961-65 = 392 (Linden Johnson) Third 4 years 1966- 69 = 35,751 (Linden Johnson) Forth 4 years 1970-73 = 20,863 Next 24 years = 1178 Total = 58,193 The next President is critical if we want to avoid the...

Posted by: MLM | September 22, 2007 9:21 AM

I am a New Yorker as well and I second your notion. There are many unanswered questions and debate is silenced and dying. The neo-con republicans are unmistakably sophisticated in their ability to manipulate debate through talking points and character assassination. No other political organization comes close to approaching their cohesiveness, dogmatism and funding. They are shaping the world to benefit an elite cadre of ultra-wealthy and have displayed moral ambiguity and killer instinct that liberals lack. How does this relate to 9/11? Because 9/11, regardless of truth and the cloud of misinformation seeded by the neocon republicans, has become a tool for their accretion of wealth and power. Because regardless of neocon talking points, easy-on-the-brain mantras, and general misdirection, our Constitution and the foundations of Democracy are being and have been corroded. Whether Republican or Democract or Non-affiliated independent, the fact of the matter is the majority does not benefit from the neocon rise to power. 9/11 at its heart is a tragedy of exploitation. Exploitation of the American people and regardless of our differences, the net effect has been suffering inflicted by Americans on Americans. Who will shoulder the burden of a trillion dollar war? Why is a...

Posted by: Jade | September 21, 2007 12:06 PM

Jesse, you refuse to believe the obvious when it comes to Bush but quickly believe anything negative about Clinton. As an independent I hold all accountable.

Posted by: Jay P. | September 21, 2007 11:56 AM

That's more reality for ya. 9/11 an inside job... puleez.

Posted by: Jesse Norman | September 21, 2007 8:02 AM

I am a regular viewer of Bill Moyers Journal and applaud you for giving voice to so many courageous people. I'm dismayed, however, that you have not incorporated any of the dozens and dozens of questions being posed by the 911Truth.org movement. There are critical holes in the official 9/11 story regarding WTC7, the Pentagon crash, the Twin Towers collapse, and the Pennsylvania crash. Polls are registering huge percentages of people who believe that key members of the American government were complicit in the attack (http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20040830120349841). Many of the brightest technical minds are on board with this. Many key people in positions of authority are also. I personally believe, after much reading and investigation, that 9/11 was a false-flag operation that allowed the present government to go to war and take away civil liberties. These latter two issues are frequent topics on your program. Please take a moment to look into events of 9/11 with a fresh perspective. It is a brave step, but it is one that could lead to the real truth, the truth that we must have. Please do not dismiss the questions, nor the inconvenient answers until you have read the arguments. Droves and droves of...

Posted by: ricep | September 20, 2007 7:19 PM

Your reality I think is peyote-laced, with all due respect. I think your continual posting of "The real reason we're in Iraq" is something you have saved on your computer and you post that same thing on every blog you find. No way someone repeats themselves like that in verbatim unless they have it saved. If that's true, then that's really disturbing. You can have your own take on reality. I want no part of it.

Posted by: Jesse Norman | September 20, 2007 1:32 PM

To: Jesse Norman Go ahead and live with your attitude against Clinton if it makes you happy. If you have time open your mind up to reality.

Posted by: Jay P | September 18, 2007 12:26 PM

I hate people that's the one true emotion that calls me out to challenge them to a difficult round of it...I was born to stick the needle in the balloon heads of the world... gary alan brumley

Posted by: gary brumley | September 18, 2007 11:55 AM

You guys really are funny with your views. What if I don't get rid of the chip on my shoulder over Clinton? Get real. Jay P, if you were speaking on this thread you'd sound like a tape recorder. This is the third time you've said that same exact thing, one on another thread. Guess what I asked three times to you... in case you didn't answer correctly, it was "WHERE IS YOUR EVIDENCE?????!!!!!" I still haven't got an answer.

Posted by: Jesse Norman | September 18, 2007 10:00 AM

To: Jesse Norman You seem to make many assumptions when it relates to Clinton but are very defensive with Bush. Get rid of the big chip on your shoulder. The Real Reason We're In Iraq: An influential group of conservatives convinced President George W. Bush that it was in America's best interests to conquer Iraq as a first step toward dominating the oil-producing nations in the Middle East. There was no "exit plan" because we never intended to exit. The plan was, and is, to build military bases in Iraq and stay there forever. Our leaders see Iraq as a place to make money. So Bush & Co. have set up their friends to cash in on the rebuilding of Iraq.

Posted by: Jay P | September 17, 2007 5:35 PM

If you have not let your congress critters know your views on impeaching the current occupant and his puppet master I strongly encourage you to do so. If you do not know how to contact these people here is a URL that will help resolve that small item http://www.conservativeusa.org/mega-cong.htm Let your elected officials know what you are thinking and what you'd like them to do, while there is still time and before all your rights are taken away by the imperial shrub.

Posted by: Steve S | September 17, 2007 4:53 PM

While the Congress hesitates to impeach the President and Vice President, what are the alternatives for citizens who think that the President and Vice President have committed crimes against the nation? For instance, is making a collective citizen's arrest a possibility? "A strong argument can be made that the right to make a citizen's arrest is a constitutionally protected right under the Ninth Amendment as its impact includes the individual's natural right to self preservation and the defense of the others. Indeed, the laws of citizens arrest appear to be predicated upon the effectiveness of the Second Amendment. Simply put, without firepower, people are less likely going to be able to make a citizen's arrest. A random sampling of the various states as well as the District of Columbia indicates that a citizen's arrest is valid when a public offense was committed in the presence of the arresting private citizen or when the arresting private citizen has a reasonable belief that the suspect has committed a felony, whether or not in the presence of the arresting citizen." (For details, see http://www.constitution.org/grossack/arrest.htm.) If committing a felony is the benchmark for determining whether a crime has been committed, are violations of their...

Posted by: Roger Chapanis | September 16, 2007 11:21 AM

You've said quite a mouthful Deep Throat. Let's see if I can break down your list: 1. Failed to prevent 9/11: well Bush wasn't even in office for 9 months when it happened. Although I don't feel he did enough if anything at all to prevent it, Al Qaeda was hitting us all over the world when Clinton was in office and Clinton did absolutely nothing about any attack. 2. Failed to kill Osama: you're right, he did. Here's something you won't like reading though. Sudan offered Clinton three times for them to capture Bin Laden, ship him to Saudi Arabia where we could then take him. Clinton said "we can't get him on anything under international law" so he refused. He denies this, but he was caught on audio tape not only getting these offers but declining. 3. Manipulating emotion for Iraq war: I totally disagree, but that's just my opinion as it is yours. 4. Blaming Katrina on Bush is just foolish. While he may have not acted quick enough, the citizens who were trapped in New Orleans were supposed to have been evacuated. Mayor Nagin released a free dvd a year before Katrina saying if there was...

Posted by: Jesse Norman | September 15, 2007 2:22 AM

With all of these failures, there's gotta be something to impeach this one. 1) Failed to prevent 9/11 2) Failed to Kill Osama 3) Manipulating 9/11 emotion to lead us into Iraq War 4) Katrina 5) Partisan Supreme Court. 6) Corruption in Congress 7) Corruction in Business 8) Tax relief for Haves. 9) Uncontrolled Medical coverage. 10) Record deficit/debt. 11) Rising oil costs. 12) Global Warming. 13) Ignoring Genocides and world pandemic diseases. 14) Ignoring War on Drug. 15) Illegal Aliens. 16) Off-shoring US jobs. 17) Dependency in foreign manufacturing facilities. 18) Failed financial regulations. 19) Shrinking middle class, increasing gap between haves and have nots. 20) Loss of credibility in the world and weakening world alliances. 21) Violating Civil Liberty. 22) Releasing spy ID. 23) Refusing to cooperate with GAO, FBI, CIA, Congress by hiding behind executive privileges and national security. 24) DIVIDING OUR NATION.

Posted by: Deep Throat | September 15, 2007 12:47 AM

Thank you, Jesse. We do agree on some things. You have a point. Personally, I take extremist comments with a grain of salt. I don't believe we had much choice but, to trust the President's decision to go to war based on what he and the media presented. If it's technically a war, a not is debatable. I don't know where you are getting your information but, I understood Moyer's to say that the D.C. press tend to be the President's righthand man. At any rate, I don't believe anything should be based on surface value and find a complex world deserves better. The transparency we often hear about and that is so desperately needed becomes the center when we turn away from lies and deception in times of desperation or otherwise. It starts with each of us(me).

Posted by: Carol H. | September 14, 2007 7:15 PM

Finally we seem to agree on something Carol. There is another thread on here from a show done by Moyers about how the press was complicit in convincing the country in going to war in Iraq. Of course many people actually bought this. No one in the press was "afraid" to criticize Bush because they have done it from day one. Is that a bad thing? No, of course not. But Moyers trying to convince people the press was Bush's right hand man is ludicrous. There's further evidence of the liberal bias in the media when Moveon.org received a hefty discount for putting that ad up about General Petraeus by the NY Times. Supposedly they received a $100,000 discount. The Times gave some bs excuse as to why they did, but anyone with any keen sense could see through that. Carol, your point to me beforehand was that the press wasn't honest. Which side were they going towards dishonesty? It would be the left wouldn't it? Obviously the NY Times weren't thinking of profits when it gave Moveon.org their discount. Obviously the print media isn't thinking about profits since their bias has turned many away from buying newspapers. Actually they...

Posted by: Jesse Norman | September 14, 2007 1:03 AM

Good point, MLM. Blogs can be addicting but, please, pace yourself. I believe your input is quite valuable and wouldn't want to lose touch. I believe that there are more that strive for the center are in more numbers than we've heard from or about. It gives me a sense of hope.

Posted by: Carol Huss | September 13, 2007 9:32 PM

These Blogs are too addicting. When it comes to the press, these old ideas of Right and Left leaning really no longer apply. Today the press and the media have been consolidated into huge Corporations. The driving force is profit, shareholders, and stock prices. If anything they have all shifted to the right, because the right is completely pro business and deregulation. One thing for sure, the idea that the media plays a valuable roll in keeping democracy in check is lost. The reason this blog appears so one-sided is that it seems to be the only place where this point of view can see the light of day. I am not excited about either party either. But not participating is NO option. My family heritage goes back, on at least three branches, to the 16 and 17 hundreds on these shores. Radical passionate individualism just runs in the family. My political strategy at this point is to use my vote to try and bring the pendulum back closer to the center.

Posted by: MLM | September 13, 2007 9:08 PM

Thanks for your comments, MLM. I'm glad you just took a break and weren't away for long. Sadly, I'm not very impressed with any of the politicians. Right now I don't see myself at any party affiliation. Facilitating the truth in for democracy and freedom takes a joint effort in diplomacy and understanding without deception. It is a process that requires civil contemplation and debate. The occurances and exposure of that is, sadly, not a standard that is used enough today. We all have choices as well as responsibilities that must be addressed. Jesse, I don't know anyone is naive here except maybe the politicans, if they think the lies and deception will work for them, at least, in the long run.

Posted by: Carol Huss | September 13, 2007 7:49 PM

You know I grew up believeing this BS about the press. This is the debate that is truly irrelevant and trivial -- this seeking to demonize the opposition. It is a totally non-productive debate that diverts the masses from debating the real issues that affect our lives. In order for America to work, it takes both the Left and the Right. What makes our County GREAT and keeps everything in check is the DEBATE between the two, NOT the annihilation of one over the other, as if it were a cockfight, as seems to be the mission of the Republican Party. And, I say that not out of what I hear from the press but by the language of the automated phone calls and letters soliciting donations from the Republican Party. (I was a card-carrying member until recently) Also I receive this same rhetoric from my Republican representatives when they respond to my letters. Having been a conservative for 52 years, it is the Right Wing Rhetoric that has changed my viewpoint. Everything about the current regime is about shutting down debate by demonizing anyone that disagrees. THIS IS A DANGEROUS TREND. I have lived through total Democratic control and...

Posted by: MLM | September 13, 2007 4:59 PM

Well I'm not naive. I realize we don't live in Utopia where everything is at it seems or right. My friends think I'm actually quite savvy. Even the liberal ones. A lot don't like what I have to say, but they definitely respect what I say since they do know I know what I am talking about. Hey, it's a gift. I know most on here won't agree with this, but the press mostly is left leaning. This story and others on PBS are just a small example. Do you recall the Moyer's piece "Let's Get Clinton Impeached"? I don't either because it never happened. MSNBC collected data on 143 journalists who made donations from the 2004 through the start of the 2008 campaigns, 125 gave to democrats or liberal causes while only 16 gave to republicans. 2 gave to both parties. Can't say MSNBC is right-wing since Joe Scarborough said the MSNBC newsroom booed when Bush was speaking at the State of the Union address in 2003. In 1992, 89% of Washington based reporters voted for Clinton. In 2004, 52% of tv and newspaper journalists voted for Kerry, 19% for Bush, and 21% refused to answer. Let's split those...

Posted by: Jesse Norman | September 13, 2007 6:42 AM

Jesse, I give President Bush, Republicans and even Democrats a fair chance to prove themselves worthy of govering us, but if you think that all journalism can be trusted and facilitates the truth in democracy and freedom such as the stories 9/11 and subsequent outbreak of war in Iraq, I find you quite naive. What I would like to know is... when does the healing begin with such outright "picking?" When we are not diplomatic enough, there is no choice but, war. A new administration would at least give us hope for peace, if, and maybe if, we can show them by example.

Posted by: Carol Huss | September 12, 2007 12:24 PM

Meant dyslexia. Darn typos.

Posted by: Jesse Norman | September 11, 2007 12:25 AM

The evidence is in the 9/11 Report which was done by a bipartisan commission. Looks like they posted my comment afterall, only a day after I sent it. I'm sure some postings don't get through for whatever reasons but if you look at the other threads and it's at least 99-1 against Bush or the war. I've also seen the wackiest contributions on here as well. A lot of anti-Israeli sentiment, too. Yeah, blame the only civilized country in the region for protecting it's sliver of land against the continent scale lands of arabia. Didn't know you were dyxlexic. In my first post I did ask if you meant WWII and really didn't know what you meant about "freighting". I assumed "frightening" but didn't know.

Posted by: Jesse Norman | September 11, 2007 12:24 AM

Jessie I am sure your posts not getting uploaded is due to user error, the same has happened to my post and I never took it personally, as I have reposted from a word document and they uploaded just fine. Thank you for pointing out my typos, and obvious problem with dyslexia. I really appreciate that, so kind of you. Of course I intended to say WWII. I disagree that Bush “never” said that Iraq was responsible for attacking us on 9/11. I listened to him with my own two ears. He clearly connected the two and NO one would have made that connection with out the Bush propaganda. But I am sure you hung on his every word and were able to catch his every speech. Show me the evidence that Saddam and Al Qaeda were connected, because the opinions and reports I have listened to say differently. The nonpartisan analysis that seems most reasonable points out that Saddam saw Bin Lauden as a threat to his power, he was much too paranoid of a dictator to allow Al Qaeda to operate out of Iraq. In my opinion this rings true. Saddam was focused on two things, the local...

Posted by: MLM | September 9, 2007 9:13 PM

I guess I'll have to repeat what I tried to send earlier but wasn't posted. I think it was my nicest post too. Weird that I have read some postings calling Bush a murderer made it with no problem. No bias at all though. I have never heard anyone in the administration say "Iraq was behind 9/11". It never happened, so what the poll shows is people will believe anything and certainly will believe what they want to believe. I can read postings here and say it's definitely not a one-sided flaw. Saying Bush or the administration tried to convince us that Iraq was linked to 9/11 is completely false. It never happened. What the Bush administration however said was there was a link between Saddam and Al Qaeda, which there was. It is evident from the documents we've recovered as well as the knowledge that Al Zarqawi was treated in Baghdad before the war. As far as comparing war speeches go, you can do that with anyone. You have to be smarter than that. What are speeches that rally people to war supposed to sound like? It doesn't even have to be about war. I bet if I had...

Posted by: Jesse Norman | September 9, 2007 2:56 AM

In an effort to rally support for a war, any speech will have similarities. That's just common sense. If I had to I could point out things how Reagansaid things that sounded like Ghandi. See, one can do that without comparing speeches on war, so that means nothing. Were Reagan and Ghandi two peas in a pod? No. Did you mean WWII? Because Hitler wasn't anything in WWI. As far as the poll goes people will believe what they want to believe. What you accuse the administration of doing is simply not true. I have never heard of anyone in the administration say that Saddam was responsible for 9/11, therefore not being able to persuade people of believing such a thing. They did say there was a link between Saddam and Al Qaeda which was true. The more time went by the more documents were found linking them together. Al Zarqawi was in Iraq before the war and received treatment on a wounded leg in Baghdad. There are other things linking Saddam with Al Qaeda which you can find on the net. If anything the administration didn't differentiate one terrorist or terrorist organization from the other, which it shouldn't do...

Posted by: Jesse Norman | September 8, 2007 2:15 AM

Several people have objected to the comparison of this Administration and Hitler. I agree that this is a strong statement and of course has a strong element of hyperbole. I in no way wish to say that the leadership in Washington even comes close to that level of insanity and evil. Still there are, I believe some freighting similarities, in the tactics and inflammatory rhetoric that have and continue to come from this Administration. Rhetoric used to build support for the invasion of Iraq when our justifiable retaliation for 9/11 belonged with the Taliban in Afghanistan. The use of fear for persuasion, the demonizing of opponents, the unwillingness to admit mistakes, the refusal to change the tone of this rhetoric even after it was made clear that the basis for entry was false…is what concerns me most. According to a Harris poll In 2004 41% and still in 2005 22% of Americans believed Saddam Hussein helped plan and support the hijackers who attacked the U.S. on September 11, 2001. In 2005 24% of Americans still believe several of the hijackers who attacked the U.S. on September 11 were Iraqis. http://www.harrisinteractive.com/harris_poll/index.asp?PID=623 Neither of which has been proven true. This belief was...

Posted by: MLM | September 8, 2007 12:58 AM

Absolutely, Jay P. Still didn't tell me where your evidence is.

Posted by: Jesse Norman | September 7, 2007 12:17 AM

Sorry, to intrude Jay P but, you might be over simplifying the situation. Technically, Bush & Company's motives to directly benefit from Iraq's oil would be a conflict of interest and, I believe, grounds for impeachment. I'm glad the military study came out in the news today that we need to take "lighter steps" in Iraq and move closer to ending the war without occupation and it's a relief to hear from hearts that may be in the right place. How the President responds seems to be the difference between him being able to then keep his job to the end of this term or not. It'll be interesting how it plays out. It also seems that the executive branch is watering down the responsibilities of the legislative and judicial branches as well... other items in Pandora's Box.

Posted by: Carol Huss | September 6, 2007 6:49 PM

To: Jesse Norman Thanks for your comments. Let me ask you this, if this war was started so Bush and Co. could benefit from the oil and taxpayer expense, would that be an impeachable offense?

Posted by: Jay P | September 6, 2007 4:15 PM

Jay P, where is your evidence of this? You know what evidence is, right? I can make up stuff all I want too but just because I can come up with it in my mind, it doesn't make it fact. Please tell us if you were a fly on the wall when all of this was supposedly discussed. I'd be interested in reading it. I'm tired of all this "American imperialism" talk. Name a country we have really taken over and kept. I don't recall ever hearing the saying "the sun never sets on america". If we went into Iraq because of oil, then how come oil is so high-priced throughout the world, not just in our country. Why do I have a big chip on my shoulder because of Clinton? Because he was very corrupt and I'm sure hardly any of you actually accept that he was. The only thing he really got credit for was a good economy and that was falsely accredited. He was just president at the right time with the internet boom. Just as he was leaving we had the internet bust. Al Gore should have gotten the credit for the economy since he invented...

Posted by: Jesse Norman | September 6, 2007 1:58 PM

It's obviously too easy to point fingers and take sides. Does truth in democracy and freedom require that we choose either Democrats or Republicans? I'm glad the discussion goes on. As far as what the majority thinks or does about impeachment now or what was previously done remains to be seen. Fighting a war is part of a process. There are battles won and lost, a journey. Is it our place to make Iraq a US occupation? The need for it remains to be seen. It's only then that will we find our destiny whether to end the war or not. We have not found the necessary leadership with the UN? It seems not. Discussion and Debate has it's purpose yet, let's not expect the required action to be proficiently done with too much delay.

Posted by: Carol Huss | September 5, 2007 6:54 PM

To: Jesse Norman You seem to have a big chip on your shoulder concerning Clinton. Why don't you focus on the present? The Real Reason We're In Iraq: An influential group of conservatives convinced President George W. Bush that it was in America's best interests to conquer Iraq as a first step toward dominating the oil-producing nations in the Middle East. There was no "exit plan" because we never intended to exit. The plan was, and is, to build military bases in Iraq and stay there forever. Our leaders see Iraq as a place to make money. So Bush & Co. have set up their friends to cash in on the rebuilding of Iraq.

Posted by: Jay P | September 5, 2007 4:42 PM

Charles, who are the people? It seems like most of you think that the majority of the country wants impeachment. Maybe the majority of people YOU all know, but not the majority in the country. Accept it. Selective outrage over corruption gets nowhere because it's just that, selective. Clinton was the most corrupt of any President ever. Much more corrupt than Bush supposedly is. Clinton did so many things that people don't even remember the majority of them because the sheer number is too voluminous to take in. Clinton was said to have "a scandal a day". That was said by Jerry Brown who ran against him in 1992 for the democratic ticket. Not a republican. And that was BEFORE Clinton became President. It wasn't just about his affairs either. Why don't you all get mad at politicians on both sides who are corrupt? How many of you contacted your congressman or woman or senator and ask to at least censure LA Congressman William Jefferson who was found to have $90,000 in cold hard cash (literally) in his freezer? I reckon none of you. I contacted my representatives over this. I also contacted my representatives over the Tom Delay situation...

Posted by: Jesse Norman | September 5, 2007 3:51 PM

I recently sent this letter to the Contra Costa Times in northern California. In the July 28th edition of the West County Times, Representative George Miller explained the Democratic Party’s reasons for not impeaching President Bush and Vice President Cheney. According to Rep. Miller, the Democrats are so busy ending the war they simply don’t have time to impeach corrupt politicians. Based on all the most recent Presidential approval polls, most citizens would disagree with Rep. Miller and the Democratic leadership. Let’s not lose sight of the fact that the Democrats voted for the war. Now, of course, they claim they were ignorant of the facts leading to the invasion of Iraq. I wonder if they even bothered reading any of the many books and articles suggesting that the invasion of Iraq would be a horrendous mistake and that there was no justification for it. The Democrats have failed to bring an end to an illegal war, which they promised they would do. They failed to restore our constitutional rights and they failed to bring the perpetrators of war crimes to justice. Rather than address these pressing issues, the Democrats focus solely on who will run for president in 2008...

Posted by: Charles T. Smith | September 1, 2007 3:55 PM

That is my point, Jesse, there is no place for complacency whether middle ground or not. Thank you for your integrity. I just see a lot of corruption in today's world and without firm, decisive actions in leadership or elsewhere like, at least, careful consideration of impeachment and possible removal from office of the President and others we are doomed to fail. We can do it by being diplomatic...direct, firm, and kind. I do not have the gift of gab for a lot detail but, with intent as a generalist I can readily focus on the big picture.

Posted by: Carol Huss | August 28, 2007 12:33 PM

You do not seriously think Clinton only lied about sex in the oval office do you? If Bill Clinton told you the sky was blue, I know you'd look up just to make sure, just as I would. I laid out many things Clinton did and could have listed many more, and they're undeniable. I won't get into Whitewater even though something wasn't right there, to me it's not an issue. You don't think Clinton had Janet Reno stop those investigations that looked into his dealings on different fronts? Aren't those impeachable offenses? If you believe Bush lied about WMD's, then you must believe Hans Blix, Clinton, Gore, Senator Clinton, Putin, Chirac, China, Jordan, and just about every other member of the UN lied too about Saddam having WMD's. Clinton in the months leading up to the Iraqi war said Saddam had WMD's. None of those I listed I would consider "Bush-friendly".

Posted by: Jesse Norman | August 28, 2007 7:05 AM

For those who want to do something about impeachment: H. Res. 333, the bill put forth by Dennis Kucinich to impeach Cheney, now has 19 co-sponsors. Sign the petition at http://impeachcheney.org/ and a message will be sent to your representative in congress. Over 117,000 have already signed. I am still hoping that Bill Moyers will have Dennis Kucinich on to discuss H. Res, 333. Dennis Kucinich has spoken out against the Bush administration's war on Iraq and now he is speaking out against war with Iran: http://www.dennis4president.com/go/newsroom/bush-setting-stage-for-war-with-iran/ There are more reasons than ever to impeach Cheney; many are afraid that he will do anything to pull us into a war with Iran. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-gareth-porter/cheney-lieberman-and-ira_b_60705.html http://saywhen.wordpress.com/2007/08/27/letter-from-mckinney-sheehan-tarpley-and-kaminsky-warning-of-a-cheney-backed-new-911/ And for those who are wondering where the protesters are: There are ongoing protests -- a good place to start is: http://worldcantwait.org/

Posted by: Stephanie | August 28, 2007 12:06 AM

Clinton lied about having sex with a woman in the oval office. Bush lied to the American people and the world about the reasons for waging war against another country that was of no imediate threat to the US. Bush circumvented the 4th amendment and continues to put American citizens under surveillance with out warrant. Bush has circumvented international law concerning the treatment of prisoners of war. I'd say what Clinton did and what Bush is doing cannot even be compared. I do not take impeachment lightly, impeaching Clinton In my opinion was politically motivated. But, in this case I think we are talking about our core freedoms under the constitution. Impeachment was put in place by the founding Fathers as a last resort way for the people to correct the situation when the balance of power becomes so one sided that Democracy is threatened. It is my opinion we are at such a point in History. For me it is not about party bickering. This is about keeping American Democracy and Freedom alive. I have felt for some years now that it is increasingly in jeopardy. I agree we don't want to make this a trend. But that risk...

Posted by: MLM | August 27, 2007 12:34 AM

First of all Jeff, I'm sorry for your health situation. I myself have chronic kidney failure, so I will be fortunate if I do see 49. Why I have my health problems is because my father was exposed to Agent Orange while he served in Vietnam. Because of his exposure, I have IgA which caused later on proteinuria and hematuria, so I know what you must be going through with your health. I understood your post just fine. If I worked for the republican party or Rove, I'd have to be a follower. To be totally upfront, I am a registered democrat. The reason why I keep bringing up Clinton's impeachment is because Clinton actually did impeachable things, but there was not a program called "Let's Get The Conversation Rolling About Impeaching Clinton" on any network. Not even Fox. I'm all for letting go of the past, but my point was that this is very hypocritical. Many of the ones who were saying bad things (rightfully so) about those who wanted Clinton impeached are now talking about impeachng Bush. That's hypocrisy to the Nth degree. People do disagree with leaders of both parties on major issues and still keep their...

Posted by: Jesse Norman | August 25, 2007 3:59 AM

It actually gives me the "warm fuzzies" to read a blog that attracts so many educated participants. My knowledge is always expanded by watching the Journal and reading the blogs for this series. Several nights ago, I had the pleasure of attending a lecture given by the lead attorney for Hamdan v. Rumsfeld, the case that challenged the constitutionality of military trials at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. Neal Katyal won that case and his remarkable lecture truly gave me hope. Katyal reminded us that Hamdan, a man with a fourth grade education who served as bin Laden's driver, was able to sue the two most powerful men in the world, Bush and Rumsfeld, and win. While I am disheartened that the suit was won only after a man who should have had a presumption of innocence had served years in Gitmo, suffering isolation, a lack of representation, and what anyone subjected to it would call torture, he did win. After the lecture the host reminded us that the kind of freedoms we have taken for granted do not represent the systems under which most of the world lives now or ever has. There have only a handful of times in history...

Posted by: Gail Frank | August 25, 2007 2:34 AM

We elected a Democratic congress in 2006 and yet the "lame duck" President continues to flaunt the Constitution and act more like a monarch than a public servant. Congress does nothing. Too many are in the thrall of the special interests. Impeachment seems like a taboo subject--but I think everyone's just afraid. Two things are different from the turbulent 1960s when the people stood up and made the President and the Congress listen: in the 60s the citizens went out into the streets and the media covered all points of view. Where are the protesters and WHERE IS THE MEDIA? Complacency will destroy Democracy and, ultimately, America.

Posted by: Scott Berry | August 24, 2007 10:43 PM

In the words of George Orwell: "In a time of universal deceipt, telling the truth is a revolutionary act". Please continue being revolutionary. For the sake of keeping our Constitution as it was intended and not allowing it to be subverted, both Cheney and Bush should be impaeached.

Posted by: Marian H. Rose | August 24, 2007 10:22 PM

In the words of George Orwell: "In a time of universal deceipt, telling the truth is a revolutionary act". Please continue being revolutionary. For the sake of keeping our Constitution as it was intnded and not allowing it to be subverted, both Cheney and Bush should be impaeached.

Posted by: Marian H. Rose | August 24, 2007 10:20 PM

Thanks Jeff for trying. I wouldn't acknowledge the personal attacks. The point is promoting and tooling an intelligent, diverse discussion as indicated in Bill Moyers Blog rules. Anger divides. You needn't defend yourself that way. Peace to all.

Posted by: Carol Huss | August 24, 2007 5:59 PM

To Jesse: YOU DID NOT read what I was saying-Please try it again. 1) I asked if you "worked" for Rove or the Republican not if you "followed". 2)I never stated anything about whether you were for or against Impeaching Clinton-I asked why you keep bringing him up? 3)I may suggest that you check out the Hegelian Dialectics in order to help you understand the point I was trying to make. If you cannot figure it out, let me know & I will try to help you. Our society is "side" oriented which I feel divides us and that events are intentionally created to keep manifesting this mentality. I feel ALL people, no matter what race, nationality, or religious beliefs need to recognize this and come together as one-if we all wish to continue as a species. The world has gotten too small to continue the way we have been-we need to stop thinking borders and nationalities and remove greed and personal ego from our thoughts if we wish to live in peace with each other. You are absolutely correct about me-I I am not as smart as you nor as young or good looking and I am retired-Mainly because...

Posted by: Jeff Findeis | August 24, 2007 2:30 PM

Watching the God’s Warriors program on CNN was so depressing to see so many fanatics in our world presenting their fundamentalist ideas under Judaism, Christianity and Islam. To comfort myself I came to Bill Moyers Journal as it rescues me from despair every week by meeting decent people. Thanks Bill

Posted by: anon | August 24, 2007 1:23 PM

complacency.

Posted by: Carol Huss | August 24, 2007 12:24 PM

Good point, Jesse. Yet, complatency is not appropriate in the middle ground either. Impeachment has a purpose and whether a President is permitted to finish the term, I believe, depends heavily on his actions. Let the Constitution work.

Posted by: Carol Huss | August 24, 2007 12:06 PM

You do have a neanderthal iq from what I could read. Is it possible that maybe, just maybe I can disagree with you without being a republican follower of Karl Rove? What you wrote is downright silly and further explains people who are on your side of these issues. I clearly stated that I was against impeachment with Clinton, but can't take my word for it because it describes me as somewhat in the middle. It doesn't make sense to you that someone would be ok with Clinton finishing his term as well as Bush. Great tolerance there. Loved the conspiracy theory you pushed there too. I know people on the left can't resist a good conspiracy. I'm sure some read what you wrote and said "yeah maaan, that makes sense". Define "large percentage". There was a large percentage who wanted Clinton impeached, but it wasn't most. I think "most" is key here. I am quite sure you are not in the majority on this issue. What's my point with Clinton? Gotta be kidding. I'm sure you didn't raise up a fuss when Clinton did terrible thing after terrible thing is what my point was. There was hardly a peep...

Posted by: Jesse Norman | August 24, 2007 5:37 AM

Dear fellow citizens and people of the world. My father John Edward Kwiatkowski was a career foreign service officer with the Department of State of the United States of America for 35 years retiring in 1995 as an FSO-1. As a fortunate son I grew up around the world where many times I was the odd one out a little blonde haired blue-eyed kid in south africa or the bahamas.. I was at College Du Leman in Versoix, Geneva Switzerland from 1977-1979 on the same bowling team as the sons and daughters of the shah of iran and the ayatollah khomeini of iraq not to mention the sons and daughters of other semi-royal families from a variety of countries. Remember rod stewarts Do ya think I'm sexy album? I was 11 years old when that came out and those royal family children and I were on the same school bowling team with miss fisher the math teacher every friday on the bus to the lanes. We drank coffee and wine, and smoked cigarettes and weed together like brothers and sisters often do. And all the while our parents were planning their little war games. Guess what! We will all see...

Posted by: Paul Eric Kwiatkowski | August 23, 2007 7:09 PM

Count me as one in support of impeachment proceedings against the current occupant and his side kick, Dick. What they have done to this country and our constitution, if not criminal certainly warrants impeachment. Bruce Fein and John Nichols, from differing philosophy's, have clearly stated that impeachment proceedings are valid, warranted and needed. I would really like to see Bill, interview Chalmers Johnson and discuss the imperialism and militarism being foisted on us by the military-industrial complex with the elected officials either turning a blind eye or in league with empire building that has been going on for generations. With the elections coming on and campaigning heating up some sunshine cast on the imperial role of the US and our foreign policy would be very timely for the citizens of this nation to know about.

Posted by: Steve S | August 23, 2007 3:47 PM

Dear Mr. Moyers: I just wrote to you about encouraging Oprah to feature a show about impeachment similar to the one that aired on PBS. All Americans and elected officials need to understand why impeachment is so important now. The Oprah Show reaches millions of average American viewers. You, Bruce Fein and John Nichols create compelling arguments, information and television. Contact her producers @ www.oprah.com and lets shine the light of truth upon the secrecy surrounding our government. Thank you for what you are doing!

Posted by: Lynda Hernandez | August 23, 2007 2:58 PM

To Jesse-You keep bringing up Clinton did this, Clinton did that, Janet Reno blah-blah-blah. What's the point? It's now in the past and there is not much anyone can do about it. Should have, could have, and would have, BUT we didn't. It's quite obvious Congress failed to uphold the Constitution then and they are failing to do it now the only difference is that they DID at least put the Impeachment process into motion. Whether you like it or not, large percentage of America is for impeachment. If Congress fails to start Impeachment proceedings against George W. Bush and Richard Bruce Cheney, then we will all be saying should have, could have, and would have-two years from now-and that will be a shame. We need to make sure these politicians are kept in line or at least give them a feeling that they MAY have a price to pay IF they break the law and WE The People are NOT doing a very good job at that-that is even more shameful. This last statement is not meant to insult-your comments and responses raise a question in my mind if you are not who you say you are in here-as...

Posted by: Jeff Findeis | August 23, 2007 11:12 AM

Thank you for pointing out that the impeachment processes are NOT punitive to- but, in fact, favor - all of our long-held beliefs that are held within the Constitution. We have allowed ourselves to perceive too much of our lives as battlegrounds.

Posted by: Christopher | August 22, 2007 12:02 AM

The "liberal media bias", is a fallacy. If the United States had a liberal leaning media, the United States would have never attacked Iraq.

Posted by: william hunter | August 21, 2007 11:52 PM

In the link provided below you see 7 people 4 in color & 3 in black & white...The 3 in b&w were captured 2 on 5/29/2004 & 1 on or around 7/25/2004... (top middle)=AAFIA SIDDIQUI (bot.left)= FAZUL ABDULLAH MOHAMMED - these 2 were nabbed on 5/29/2004 from my 911 call & people in this administration are covering it up - SO THAT THE REWARDS WHICH ARE CONSTITUTIONALLY BOUND TO BE PAID - ARE NOT PAID... Worse yet (F.A.M.)was held in U.S. custody for like 30 months & recently dumped in Somalia - 1/2007 & he was targeted 4 assassination & the airstrikes missed him then as well as in 6/2007.. Released from U.S. custody while under a U.S. Federal Indictment from the Southern District of N.Y. 4 his alledged participation in the 1998 African Embassy all because the U.S. Govt. did not want to pay the reward... (bot.right)= AHMED KHALFAN GHAILANI was found in AMERICA & flown 2 Pakistan 4 Pakistan 2 say they found him there 2 avoid paying his reward as well... The ARRAY of criminality & the numbers of crimes that were committed here alone -DEMAND A THOROUGH/RIGOROUS INVESTIGATION & WARRANTS A IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDING AS WELL AS...

Posted by: national-security-4-us | August 21, 2007 10:04 PM

Dear PBS- Please, please, please stop airing Bill Moyer's program, "Buying The War." The more I see it, the more disgusted I get at this administration, and this rampant cowardice masquerading as patriotism among the populace. People, wake up! You were screwed over royally! There is no link between Saddam, WMD's or 9/11. Everyone in the administration knew it, they decided to tow the party line, and let Bush get away with this atrocity, and make no mistake, signing off on this war continues to wreck havoc on the American economy, and is still needlessly, carelessly, and callously killing thousands of soldiers and Iraquis, and for what? Please, PBS, dont air this program anymore. Nobody, nobody is willing to step up to the plate and demand our elected officials DO THEIR JOB, and initiate impeachment proceedings. Perjury over fellatio is impeachable, but a senseless war isn't? Being deliberately lied to isn't? Premeditated murder isn't? Feinstein, Pelosi and the rest of their ilk don't care about preserving freedom or democracy, they just want to keep picking up that paycheck. PBS can air this program till the cows come home, it wont do a bit of good until a collective "conscience" begins...

Posted by: dlewiston | August 21, 2007 10:03 PM

Not a problem MLM. Jay P, where is your evidence? You didn't mention the UN keeping Saddam in power for a matter of oil. They did that didn't they? The UN kept a dictator in power who they knew killed hundreds of thousands of his own people for oil.

Posted by: Jesse Norman | August 20, 2007 6:52 PM

First: Jessie Norman, your point is well taken and you have my sincere apology for singling you out in this discussion. I respectfully agree to disagree. Second: Thank you Bill Moyers for opening up this discussion. I felt I was alone in my conclusions -- that no one else was seeing what I was seeing. Third: I want to thank EVERYONE who has participated in this on-line debate. You have all helped me to refine and articulate my position. Especially the person who posted the quote used at the end of my letter below. Forth: I believe in the collective power of the people. Below is a letter that I am putting in the mail today to the Representatives from the great state of Texas, and speaker of the house Nancy Pelosi. Now I must get back to running my business. August 20, 2007 Dear , I write to you to appeal and urge you to live up to your oath of office to defend the Constitution of The United States of America. I call on you to rise to the level of true Statesmanship for the continued future of our Republic. Never in my 52 years have I been...

Posted by: MLM | August 20, 2007 11:45 AM

The Real Reason We're In Iraq: An influential group of conservatives convinced President George W. Bush that it was in America's best interests to conquer Iraq as a first step toward dominating the oil-producing nations in the Middle East. There was no "exit plan" because we never intended to exit. The plan was, and is, to build military bases in Iraq and stay there forever. Our leaders also see Iraq as a place to make money. So Bush & Co. have set up their friends to cash in on the rebuilding of Iraq.

Posted by: Jay P. | August 20, 2007 9:59 AM

I also notice that while getting a few posts pointed my way (against me as shocking as that is), none have actually tried to argue against what I actually stated. The Sandy Berger thing is indefensible. As our country was trying to find out where we went wrong with 9/11, Clinton's boy Berger stuffed the highest of classified documents into his socks and trousers which pertained to Clinton's strategy (or lack thereof) against Bin Laden and Al Qaeda. Janet Reno did block investigation after investigation. Isn' that corruption? Clinton did take in chinese agents and took money from China so they could be on the "Most Favored Nation's List". Those agents did steal our secrets. Janet Reno stopped that investigation, too. Al Gore did go into a buddhist temple and take money from more chinese agents in California. Remember this line? "It wasn't a fundraiser, but I was there to raise funds." Does most of the country want Bush impeached? No, we do not. He has low approval ratings, but congress' approval rating (controlled by democrats now) is quite a bit lower. You all are the ones blinded by hate, not me. The republicans stupidly impeached Clinton for lying under...

Posted by: Jesse Norman | August 20, 2007 3:17 AM

You just called me brainwashed MLM. So much for that "demonizing others with other viewpoints" thing eh? My iq is 174, what is yours?

Posted by: Jesse Norman | August 20, 2007 2:50 AM

I just saw a taped video of the July 23rd program on impeachment of Bush and Cheney. Thanks for proclaiming what I've been saying ever since I heard Charlie Savage talking about Bush's presidential signing statements. To save our democracy Congress must hold Bush and Cheney accountable by impeaching them. Then the media would have to shine the light on all their lies, evasions, high crimes and misdemeanors, and the American public may finally wake up. However, I was very disappointed when Mr. Fein said that there are no statesmen in Congress to call for impeacement. Ohio Representative Dennis Kucinich is and always has been a statesmen, and he has introduced articles of impeachment and gotten considerable support. I am baffled that Mr. Fein and the media in general seem to ignore or dismiss Kucinich, even though he is also running for President. I hope that Mr. Moyers will correct this failure to give credit where it is certainly due.

Posted by: Elaine Wells | August 19, 2007 10:19 PM

Anybody who is still defending Bush and Cheney deserves an America, and a military, in the state that it is in right now. As for those of us who can still think for ourselves, without having Rush or O'Reilly filter information and feed it like baby food to us, we won't stand for it. While some of us knew of Bush/Cheney's incompetence and poor character from the beginning, and millions of others who were suckered into voting for them--twice--(first out of anger and the second time out of fear) have finally come out of Karl Rove's sickly green fog, there are still, sad to say, many who would follow these criminals to the ends of the earth. I just hope they get there and all jump off the edge together. I believe in the America we all loved and cherished not only in the pre 9-11 era, but the pre Bush-Cheney era. It's never going to be the same again, and there's nothing more just than to put them through the impeachment process. Who cares about the right wingers who'll be outraged? They are in the minority now, and this act will expose them for what they are---weak-minded fearists who...

Posted by: Barth | August 19, 2007 9:36 PM

Whatever Bill says is truth. His dedication to expose that truth is saintly. PBS would not be PBS without Bill Moyers. I am personality grateful to Bill for introducing me to Joseph Campbell {The Power of Myth}, back in the early 1990s. It changed me, and my life, and I have been on that path ever since. My website Myths-Dreams-Symbols reflects that journey.

Posted by: Jerry | August 19, 2007 7:07 PM

“Find out to what people will submit and you will find the exact measure of injustice that will be imposed upon them” - F. Douglas. As “the U.S. government is in shambles -- paralyzed, polarized, and mired in war, debt and corruption”, the excuse rational use by the leaders, “if we had known there were no weapons of mass destruction.”, “I don’t think we would have gone....”. These excuses does not justify to send our man and women to a war, to have over “3668 killed, over 27000 wounded “ at a cost of over $500 billions dollars. “Ignorance of the constitution - duty, obligation, responsibility to not represent the people is no excuse”. Abrogating the absolute power – duty, obligation, responsibility.” based on a policy that is “fundamentally flawed”, does not justify the lost of life! “The biggest ECONOMIC PERIL.. ignored” by the Congress and Senate is their fiscal irresponsibility"! “ The ECONOMIC PERIL” - “a tsunami of spending that could swamp our ship of state” was their duties, obligation and responsibility. The ongoing sub-prime mortgage crisis, a result of “irresponsible lending policies designed to generate commissions for....”! Rampant corruption, lies, irresponsibility, breached of duties, obligation and plunge our...

Posted by: Chris | August 19, 2007 5:02 PM

To Jessie Norman: Your comments here are a clear reflection of the level of brainwashing that has occurred in this country. No rebuttal is really necessary your words speak to this reality. The real key to America Democracy lies in the debate. Can we have a democracy if the opposing viewpoint is demonized? Is this not how all repressive regimes, dictatorships and even the terrorist operate and control the minds of the masses?

Posted by: MLM | August 19, 2007 4:19 PM

Way back on the 14th someone was upset that people have compared Bush with Hitler. My reaction is this: I remember Hitler. I noticied the similarity within a few days after 9-1-1. Wishing doesn't make it different. We all are judged according to how we behave, not according to our motives or our wishes.

Posted by: Lynn Lamoreux | August 19, 2007 4:18 PM

The more I read and learn about the Bush regime, with its obsession for getting Saddam Hussein and the propaganda campaign on the run up to the war. The only thought I am left with about impeachment is why haven't proceedings begun? It is amazing that after the orchestrated propaganda campaign with it's imagery of mushroom clouds, and tons of biological and chemical weapons ready for immediate. That the American public accepts a "whatever" from the Bush regime as rationale for attacking a country that never did anything to us is pathetic. Even more onerous is the Orwellian tactic of redefining our purpose as the calling to bring Democracy to those people anyway. The more I read and learn about the Bush regime, with its obsession for "getting" Saddam Hussein and its fear mongering campaign on the run up to the war; the only thought I am left with regarding impeachment is, why haven't proceedings begun? It is amazing that after the White House orchestrated propaganda campaign with it's imagery of mushroom clouds, and tons of biological and chemical weapons ready for immediate use that the American public accepts a "whatever" from the Bush regime as rationale for attacking a...

Posted by: Christian Soldier | August 19, 2007 3:45 PM

Bill Moyers has created many great pieces throughout his career. This piece on Impeachment is another. However, he dropped the ball on one very pertinent piece of information. Articles of Impeachment have already been brought against Dick Cheney in the US House of Representatives in HR 333 by Congressman and Presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich. This Bill already has 20 cosponsors and is the opening volley in a battle that will hopefully set our country back on a constitutional course. Every true American should urge their members of Congress to sign on and support this bill while we still have a country to save. G

Posted by: Gary Kent | August 19, 2007 12:45 PM

If President Bush gives up the extra powers he gave himself he should be allowed to continue on as President. If he continues to "Stay the coures" he should be impeached and held accountable for his actions, which should include jail time in one of the dungeons he has been keeping suspected Al Quida members. He should also have to endure the same conditions and "questioning methods" employed there.

Posted by: Kevin Robitaille | August 19, 2007 12:07 PM

I wasn't talking about people. I was talking about the media on the far left. By the way, I'm not asking to impeach someone I don't agree with. Keep your pity.

Posted by: Jesse Norman | August 18, 2007 5:30 PM

From a posting on July 14: Quote "Ken, July 14, 2007: I just caught the end of your show waiting for the British comedies to come on. What a bunch of crap! The democrats don't have the guts to stop the war or impeach Bush or Cheney. What congress should do is remove public funding for this show and send it to the troops in the war." Unquote Huh? Listening to uncensored democratic debate between constitutional scholars may have come as a shock to this commenter, who no doubt is used to feeding on a particularly scrofulous diet of propoganda purported to be "journalism" on Fox "News" Network. The same applies to others who have chosen to post similar, inane remarks. I despise people who obviously disagree with points made on the show but cannot properly articulate reasons why they object beyond what appears to be purely ideological grounds. This feeling goes beyond "despising" -- it goes to the roots of how much I am willing to sacrifice to have the privilege to live in a free, democratic society. Lest we ever forget that the gift of freedom comes with a high price of constant vigilance towards those who would...

Posted by: Kenneth Warn | August 18, 2007 2:43 PM

Consider please the following short sequence of events: 8/12/07, early morning: The Cincinnati Enquirer runs a story revealing that “[d]espite a federal judge’s order to preserve all ballots from the 2004 presidential election--in which Ohio provided President Bush’s margin of victory--boards of elections in 56 of Ohio’s 88 counties lost, shredded or dumped nearly 1.6 million ballots and election records.” 8/13/07: Karl Rove resigns. 8/17/07: Dennis Hastert, former Speaker of the House, officially announces his intention not to seek reelection in 2008. 8/17/07: White House Press Secretary Tony Snow announces that he will leave his post sometime before the end of the Bush presidency. After this, therefore because of this? Maybe not, but I wish someone would look more closely into this missing ballots story. The major media outlets seem to be ignoring it.

Posted by: Nobody in particular | August 18, 2007 12:01 PM

To Jesse Norman: Why are you so angry? Why are you name calling the people you don't agree with as "Loons"? I feel sorry for you.

Posted by: Jeff Findeis | August 18, 2007 1:32 AM

Does anyone know about these Fema Detention Camps-The 600 to 800 FEMA Detention Camps? http://www.sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1062 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P-hvPJPTi4 Doing research I came across information on Herbert Walker Bush and the ties he had financially with the Nazi Party thru Union Bank-there was legal action taken by our Government in the 1940's against Union Bank because of these ties. Then I came across the Skull & Bones Societythat all the Bushes seem to be lifetime members of. So, I did some research on that. It seems the origin of the Skull & Bones Society came about in the 1820's or 1830's and it's three founding members studied the Hegelian Dialectic Philosiphy-The same philosiphy that Karl Marx embraced and the one the Nazi Party seemed to have used. This brings me to some questions-the first is where does GW's first loyalty REALLY lay?According to Wikipidia, 10 other members of the Skull & Bones have had positions in his administration, second-there seems to be simularities in the WTC demolition-er I mean attacks and the Reichstag fire in Berlin-why? I also did some research on PNAC-and my goodness! there are so many familiar names on the list of members. I suggest to all who question and...

Posted by: Jeff Findeis | August 18, 2007 1:27 AM

Funny how you again didn't post what I wrote. Wonder why that was. Who's talking about impeachment but you left-wing loons? Even some of the most liberal democrats won't even hear of it. That's because MOST of this country doesn't want it, and it would be political suicide if they do. Clinton actually broke the law and the republicans paid a hefty price for impeaching him, and rightfully so. What is so comedic to me is that you think you have some real credibility here. Left-wing bias? What left-wing bias? Oh, this one. Yes, bias indeed. What is the impeachable offense? Seriously because I want to know. It's funny how all of you bring up how Bush is tearing the constitution into shreds, but I heard not a peep from the liberal media about how Janet Reno stopped investigation after investigation into Clinton. Where were your cries when former NSA Sandy Berger STOLE CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS BY STUFFING THEM IN HIS PANTS AND SOCKS that pertained to Clinton's position in dealing with Bin Laden and Al Qaeda just before the 9/11 Commission was about to meet? I know you will go ahead and act like it's not a big deal like...

Posted by: Jesse Norman | August 18, 2007 1:27 AM

I signed the petition to Impeach Cheney-Senator Feinstein sent me this: Dear Mr. Findeis Thank you for your letter concerning impeachment proceedings against Vice President Richard Cheney. I appreciate the time you took to write and welcome the opportunity to respond. In our most recent elections, the American people expressed clear disapproval with the path this country was on. They are tired of partisan politics and of an Administration that pays little heed to the wishes of the American people. They want-and deserve-a Congress that holds the Administration accountable and fulfills its Constitutional responsibility to check and balance the Executive branch. I share this sentiment and am determined to work hard and across party lines in the United States Senate to promote issues that are of real concern to most Americans, including the situation in Iraq and Afghanistan, homeland security, global warming, and lobbying and election reform. At this time, however, I believe that impeachment proceedings against President Bush or Vice President Cheney will only divide the country even further, frustrating our hopes for a meaningful change in direction, while having little chance of success. I have been deeply disappointed by many of this Administration's actions and have been outspoken...

Posted by: Jeff Findeis | August 18, 2007 12:30 AM

Because of the format of the blog, I seem to be saying what the chap below me said. I think the current administration should be thrown in prison for a long time.

Posted by: Shelley Marlow | August 17, 2007 10:47 PM

I wish to reply to Jesse Norman's post. I can assure you my views are NOT a liberal vs. conservative argument nor are they personal vendettas against Mr. Bush and Chaney. Actually, I have never voted democratic and have always considered myself to be a conservative -- until that term was applied to the neo-elitist at the far end of the spectrum. For me this is about the Constitution and anger at the flagrant disregard for its fundamental core freedoms such as the 4th amendment, the separation of powers and the separation of church and state. These unprecedented measures have upset the delicate balance of power that our freedoms are built upon. I am asking for impeachment because my vote of confidence has been betrayed. I have been lied to, manipulated and played the fool. So it is not hatred but justifiable anger with an administration that has seemingly become as fanatically misguided as the enemy. By the way I did not vote or support Clinton either and agree that the problem with terrorism, inherited by this administration, was due in part by unsuccessful efforts by previous administrations. It is how the current Administration has used the situation to push...

Posted by: MLM | August 17, 2007 10:11 PM

The last poster is exhibit A as to what I said. "Enlightened"... give me a break. You people really need to get a life. Hopefully the federal government will stop funding this public television fiasco which is so left wing it only flies in clockwise circles. I'd say this channel and its shows preach to the choir, but the mere wording of "preach" and "choir" will have you all convulsing like Linda Blair. Go to France. They understand you and are enlightened as well. But better hurry quickly because their last election they look like maybe even they're starting to wake up. Perhaps you're liberal Utopia is receding as fast as your hold of common sense and fairness. What liberal bias in the media? Puleez!

Posted by: Jesse Norman | August 17, 2007 6:36 PM

I'm sorry, this makes good conversation but, I believe it's going to take more than talk to see the light of day with this.

Posted by: Carol | August 17, 2007 5:14 PM

I turn 61 this year and like many members of my cohort I have subconsciously made the cynical calculation that this republic need only endure for a few more years to satisfy my personal needs. We have as a people, suckled ourselves on the fruits of conquest and carefully cultivated our ignorance so as not to know how the great American sausage is actually made. Unfortunate the cosmic wheel of justice inevitably turns and the chickens are finally coming home to roost. Corrupt governments such as the one we have now, rise to meet a need. Ultimately aggression and oppression are needed to keep the material aspects of the party going just a little bit longer. So it is that parents are more than willing to stack the bodies of their own children on the ramparts of our empire like so many sandbags to secure just a little more of that comfortable, blissed-out, Super Bowl cocoon known as "our way of life". It's always great (and just a little too easy) to have villains like Bush and Cheney straight from central casting to personify the evil we have become. We can point our fingers in their direction and satisfy ourselves...

Posted by: Dale Barcellos | August 17, 2007 1:59 PM

Forgot to mention this too... Why didn't I hear none of you liberals cry and scream when former National Security Adviser Sandy Berger was caught stuffing the highest of classified documents into his pants and socks that pertained to Clinton's policies with Bin Laden just before the 9/11 Commission was about to meet? Why did he steal those documents? Hmm? He even admitted to throwing most of them away. Where was your whining then? When our country was trying to find out our mistakes in not dealing with Bin Laden sooner, the former NSA stuffs his clothes with classified documents so his boss wouldn't be found out for his carelessness in dealing with Al Qaeda. Go ahead and mull all this over while you play pictionary.

Posted by: Jesse Norman | August 17, 2007 4:21 AM

Who's talking about impeachment but for you left-wing loons? Seriously the problem with you people is that you hate Bush so bad that you can't think straight. You gather together with your friends at the book stores and coffee shops and talk about these things: Bush, Foxnews, Haliburton, Cheney, Karl Rove, and jews. Don't tell me you don't because I've seen you do it. You wake yourselves up out of sleep by yelling "BUSH!", drenched with sweat. I bet none of you are asking why Clinton turned down the offer from Sudan (three times by the way) where they were going to send Bin Laden to Saudi Arabia where we could pick him up, since Bin Laden was drawing unwanted attention to Sudan. I know Clinton denied this, but there's an audio tape confirming yet another Clintonian-sized lie. How about how Sudan told us what flight Bin Laden was on and Clinton did nothing about it. Or how we were attacked left and right with Clinton doing absolutely nothing about it. I know none of you are asking why did the UN keep Saddam in power so they can make money and get cheap oil from him. Kofi Annan's own...

Posted by: Jesse Norman | August 17, 2007 4:15 AM

I really enjoyed your show on WWII. My father served in Belgium, Luxembourg and other places under General Patton. I was never able to get any information from him regarding his military experiences. He was a very quiet man anyway but was really closed mouth regarding his army experiences. All I know is that he served in the infantry. The book by Howard Randall seems to fit the bill for information I have been looking for regarding these conflicts. Is there any way to purchase a copy of this book? If so please let me know. I appreciate the time and effort you put into reporting this series because it has helped me so much to understand why my father was the way he was--he passed away in 1989. His name was John Sherman. Thanks again, Jan Mills

Posted by: Jan Mills | August 16, 2007 11:41 PM

I live in a very conservative town in washington state, who refused to vote for a mayorial candidate because he didn't go to church. But trouble is brewing here agaisnt Bush/Cheney because these same people, who once viewed these two in nearly God like terms, want them out, preferably in reverse order.

Posted by: linda hatfield-southern | August 16, 2007 11:16 PM

Impeach both Cheney and Bush!!!

Posted by: Ted Fisher | August 16, 2007 2:38 PM

The discussion was one that I wish more of the mainstream media would have and one in which I wish the Congress would have. Thank you for making time for this very informative show.

Posted by: Paul Cesare | August 16, 2007 12:38 PM

The most vital and critical issue raised by far is that without impeachment the abuse of power by President Bush and Vice President Cheney will be handed down to future administrations. To believe, or trust for that matter, that this power will be relinquished by the next elected President, whether Democrat or Republican is insane. An excellent book written in the form of a fictional grand jury indictment charging the Bush administration with conspiracy to defraud the United States was written by Elizabeth de la Vega, a former federal prosecutor for 20 years, before retiring in 2004. It is published by Seven Stories Press in association with tomdispatch.com.

Posted by: Karen Claras | August 16, 2007 5:08 AM

The most vital and critical issue raised by far is that without impeachment the abuse of power by President Bush and Vice President Cheney will be handed down to future administrations. To believe, or trust for that matter, that this power will be relinquished by the next elected President, whether Democrat or Republican,is insane. An excellent book written in the form of a fictional grand jury indictment charging the Bush administration with conspiracy to defraud the United States was written by Elizabeth de la Vega, a former federal prosecutor for 20 years, before retiring in 2004. It is published by Seven Stories Press in association with tomdispatch.com.

Posted by: Karen Claras | August 16, 2007 5:04 AM

In many stories a counselor influences a weak simple king affecting the populace in negative ways. Sometimes the King is not so bad himself. Sometimes he is. Or as in this case, he has become completely convinced of his more intelligent advisor's points of view. I believe Cheney, Rice, Rove, and others in President Bush's administration will be remembered by history as the most unilateral administration we have had since Nixon's. May the next administration have the strength to fix many of their wrong doings. The most unfortunate result of having had this shrewd corporate minded administration is that they placed two Supreme Court Justices. That will not be negated by an impeachment. I've thought of 'sticking my head in the sand', but have not. Thank you for providing a much different type of broadcast than what is typical of todays ever merging media distribution channels.

Posted by: Heath Carter | August 16, 2007 1:22 AM

Why doesn't Bill Moyers have Dennis Kucinich on the program?? He's the only candidate who supports impeachment proceedings against Cheney and Bush. Why not give this "dark horse" some more visibility??

Posted by: Byron Gordon | August 16, 2007 12:41 AM

Why is Carl Rove stepping down now? A time is coming soon when Carl will no longer have Presidential Privilege. By stepping down now he will still have a Presidential pardon available if things go bad. If he waits, he will lose both at the same time. Very risky.

Posted by: Leo Bowman | August 15, 2007 9:01 PM

I was wondering why Dennis Kucinich was never mentioned during this impeachment program? A little ironic, don't you think?

Posted by: Katie Verley | August 15, 2007 7:47 PM

I doubt anyone will read this because there are so many posts.....I just feels good to post on a forum that for a change offers a little hope for what is left of my country....Up until now despite all of the letters I have written and forums I had blogged on I still had pretty much resigned myself to the fact that my country as I knew it.."Pre-Bush/Cheney" was gone forever.... I have served 20 yrs as a Marine in defense of this country....Only to have to sit by and watch a hand full of politicians take it apart like a tinker toy...throwing parts helter skelter like pigs in a trough....At the end of the day they care nothing for the America the rest of Love and would die for...they care only about where they will be sitting in their "global economy" and what wealth they will accumulate as America is sold to the highest bidder I only hope other Americans have the courage to come forth in the numbers it will take to turn this tide and save what is left of this country before it is gone....

Posted by: mike | August 15, 2007 6:18 PM

The Real Reason We're In Iraq: An influential group of conservatives convinced President George W. Bush that it was in America's best interests to conquer Iraq as a first step toward dominating the oil-producing nations in the Middle East. There was no "exit plan" because we never intended to exit. The plan was, and is, to build military bases in Iraq and stay there forever. Our leaders see Iraq as a place to make money. So Bush & Co. have set up their friends to cash in on the rebuilding of Iraq.

Posted by: Jay P | August 15, 2007 5:49 PM

Since Nancy Pelosi would be the President if both the current president and vice president were impeached and convicted, it would not be appropriate for her to be the one to instigate and promote the impeachment. She should not; however, stand in the way of it. Lets each push our own congressional representative to take the action that the country so desperately needs right now. Time is extremely important, if we wait another year the damage will be irreversible.

Posted by: Jacob Ecker | August 15, 2007 4:54 PM

Some of the proponents of war and this administration are what is truly frightening and pathetic. The number of Americans who still live in denial is the example par excellence of the denial, the ignorance and the misoneism that got us all in this sordid quagmire to begin with -here and worldwide. Instead of looking at our own latent unconsciousness we attack others that don't follow the herd mentality, and eschew and avoid our own darkness. This becomes catastrophic on a collective level and we refuse to see that have become the very thing that we hated. The psychological aspects of our actions an behavior are overlooked and ignored while so much suffering and man's inhumanity to man continues unabated. We are lost and apparently don't even see the signs that history and, for instance, the Fall of Rome taught us. Never have the words of German Shakespeare, Goethe been more true: "There are none more enslaved that those who falsely believe that they are free."

Posted by: Tom R. | August 15, 2007 3:03 PM

Nancy Pelosi has most likely taken her "impeachment off the table" position because (a) she has not yet consolidated her powers as Speaker; and (b - the bigger problem) if she calls for impeaching both the President and the VP, she would be subject to relentless attacks from the right wing because it would look like an attempt to grab the Presidency for herself since she's next in line. Pelosi needs the political cover of someone else from the House Judiciary Committee to take the lead by instigating the call for impeachment. House Judiciary Chairman John Conyers should stand up to this task and be the public champion of this cause. If Pelosi reluctantly agrees to a popular public DEMAND, then she can be the modest, reluctant supporter and largely avoid the inevitable smear attempts on her own motives.

Posted by: Julie Rubenstein | August 15, 2007 12:31 PM

I am always impressed by Bill Moyers's ability to ask profound and insightful questions of the right people on topics that most journalists are afraid of. I scanned the responses below. Most viewers of this show are the kind of thinkers that can hold several different points of view in their minds at once. All of the contrary responses simply spew regurgitated propoganda and loaded language that has nothing factual to add to the discussion. All: please continue to hold this discourse. Ask the tough questions. Act based on the facts you observe.

Posted by: Molly Crawford-Reidy | August 15, 2007 9:26 AM

Powerful. Now...it is time that WE THE PEOPLE do as our founding fathers intended: To immediately urge our congresswomen/men and Senators to take steps to protect our country and our U.S. constitution from the on-going assault, abuses and the disconnected values of the Bush Administration. Their barrage on the very pillars of our democracy...our individual liberties, the separation of powers, to name just two, do indeed rise to the high crimes and misdemeanors which our founding fathers took pains to create an orderly process to cure. This cure is called the Impeachment process. Every citizen and patriot must know that if our fundamental rights and the laws of our land are ignored by the Executive branch, we as a people, and this country we love will suffer permanently. Successor President's will take office and know that WE THE PEOPLE have a track record of remaining on the side lines, permitting any future Executive Branch unchecked powers. Call, email and visit your Congressional reps and Senators. Include Nancy P. and demand that they take action and start the Impeachment process now. Urging the start of an Impeachment process is not radical, this is THE cure and what our founding fathers wrote...

Posted by: K C Jones | August 15, 2007 3:06 AM

A case might be able to made for impeachment of president bush for usurping powers and violating laws. If so, someone should be working on it. However, if we look at the history of wars and conflicts in America … presidents have often during wartime taken extraordinary liberties. From Lincoln to Roosevelt … the kind of legal grounds for impeachment that the two commentators were talking about could probably also have easily been applied to them. It is far from clear whether American jurisprudence needs to be applied to non citizens or even citizens deemed to be enemy combatants during a time of war… In the days of the civil war for example Lincoln took extraordinary liberties in regard to freedom of the press, censorship was a regular thing (something that this president has not done) and a confederate prisioner had no real constitutional protections or “due process” to speak of. The commentators spoke of a zeal to go after president Clinton because he was hated by republicans… But if liberals are honest with themselves, they also have a zeal against the much hated president bush. There has probably never been a conservative president who inspired so much hatred among...

Posted by: marc sommes | August 15, 2007 2:24 AM

LET U.S. WASTE NO MORE TIME...Let U.S. - We The People ACT NOW to force our elected officials to act upon the will of a clear majority of American citizens to bring forth Articles of Impeachment against President Bush and Vice President Cheney. If we do not we have only ourselves to blame for the lowest point in the of history of our country. We are at a tipping point...either we right our ship or our ship will sink.

Posted by: Jeffry Adkins | August 15, 2007 2:21 AM

Every time I watch a program about the current political situation it reminds me of the information that I have heard regarding black operations. We as American people must take action against big government which is currently undermining the core freedoms owed to every man and woman. American's must reunite as a people and understand that our country has become more economically divided and the only way the lower and middle classes will survive is by speaking up. TBC

Posted by: jonty | August 15, 2007 2:20 AM

Bill, I watched your program on impreachment. It is such an important lesson on constitution. Because of your quality program, I pledge my support of PBS. Keep hope alive. Thank you!!! -Wen

Posted by: wen gong | August 15, 2007 2:11 AM

Thank you for making it clear that we need to limit presidential powers now so that future presidents don't go down the same path. It isn't just the year and a half left for this president it is following the Constitution. Now is the time to impeach!

Posted by: Edna Steele | August 15, 2007 12:20 AM

SINCE THE LAST BROADCAST OF THIS PROGRAM IN MID JULY, CONGRESS VOTED ON AN EXPANDED FISA LAW, OUR 4TH AMENDMENT IS GONE. CINDY SHEEHAN WAS ARRESTED IN JOHN CONYERS OFFICE FOR ASKING HIM TO KEEP HIS WORD, DO HIS DUTY AND IMEACH. JOHN CONYERS HAD SHE AND 44 OTHERS ARRESTED.SO WHAT DOES THE CONSTITUTION SAY TO DO NOW? I AGREE DC ON SEPT.15TH, LETS ORGANIZE AND MAKE IT HAPPEN! AMERICANS HAVE TO SHOW UP TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY.

Posted by: LMP | August 14, 2007 10:54 PM

Impeachment is the only answer. I knew Amreicans wouldn't let King George get away with this. MARCH IN WASHINGTON, SEPTEMBER 15 (ITS A SATURDAY) FOR IMPEACHMENT!!!!BE THERE FOR YOUR COUNTRY!

Posted by: lisa petry | August 14, 2007 10:39 PM

Bill Moyer, would you please consider running for President of the United States? You would by far be the most qualified candidate and definitely get my vote.

Posted by: Sharlene White | August 14, 2007 10:04 PM

Where is the Legislative branches spine? No doubt hiding beneath a bushel somewhere in Washington. The Bush/Cheney/Rove machine has divided the country to the point it is a wonder that any two individuals can find common ground. Impeachment, if it comes, will be much too late to repair the damage that has been done to our country.

Posted by: Jim White | August 14, 2007 8:06 PM

John Adams once wrote: "Is the present state of the national republic enough? Is virtue the principle of our government? Is honor? Or is ambibition the avarice, adulation, baseness, covetousness, the thirst for riches, indifference concerning the means of rising and enriching, the contempt of principle, the spirit of party and of faction the motive and principle that governs?" I ask the same. MJA

Posted by: Michael J Ahles | August 14, 2007 6:08 PM

Like Dan Rather, Impeachers will demand confession/proof and then demand impeachment for refusing to comply. When will 'ambassador Joe' get his day in court ? He made his trip to Niger for the CIA ? All information should be classified property of the CIA, NOT for his personal vendetta. ( 007 Joe outdoes James Bond, scouring all of Nigeria by himself ) Sounds like treason/sedition to me. Rather never stopped demanding proof W missed weekend dominoe games while Clinton signed an ROTC contract before skipping out of the country.

Posted by: DBoone | August 14, 2007 4:36 PM

If Bush wants Rove to write a book (or isn't telling him not to), then how can he claim Executive Privilege about the subject matter he's apparently going to publish??? By the way, you know, I criticize Bush for his secrecy. And Bill Clinton was vastly better many ways, such as waiving Executive privilege. But particularly in this environment, Hillary should release her records as First Lady. Hillary should be against, not a part of, the ridiculous secrecy surrounding Washington. Hillary knows that sunlight, as it is often said, is the best disinfectant for rotten politics. http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-clintondocs14aug14,1,1086895.story?track=rss&ctrack=1&cset=true

Posted by: JD21 | August 14, 2007 10:15 AM

HR 333, submitted by Representative and Presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich along with 17 (and growing) co-sponsors, is comprised of three Article of Impeachment against Dick Cheney. It's a shame that PBS seems to be online with the intentional corrupt corporate media "disappearing" of the ONLY Presidential candidate who has the courage to stand up to the political machine, the corrupt corporations, AIPAC, and the miliatry industrial complex and speak the TRUTH and do what is right by ALL of the American people, not just the privileged few.

Posted by: Brad Johnson | August 13, 2007 11:07 PM

The White House duo ahould have been impeached in 2004 when the N.Y,Daily times first advocated it. Pelosi's oversight is failing since 80% of congress still represents corporate America and the administration. Either the Republicans squash a good bill,or it passes and the President vetoes it. The public is between a rock and a hard place with this imperial-military gov't,only 30% of congress to represent them,and an autocrat in the W.H.. Because of this an impeachment will never happen,and the two branches of gov't will have another year+ to destroy what little democracy we have left.

Posted by: Janice Pound | August 13, 2007 11:00 PM

Dear Mr. Moyers, You blatantly neglected to discuss, let alone mention, HR 333 - a current bill before Congress introduced by Congressman and Democratic Presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich to impeach Dick Cheney. Please counteract the major media's blackout of Congressman Kucinich and revisit this important legislation in one of your future programs.

Posted by: Kucinich 2008-Strength Through Peace | August 13, 2007 10:19 PM

General STRIKE 9-11-07 no work, no school take to the streets EVERYWHERE>>>>>

Posted by: benning wentworth | August 13, 2007 8:54 PM

I think that viewing this program should be required of every member of a Congresional Legislative Committee, maybe even of every member of Congress. Those who swear to uphold the Constitution (including the President and Vice President, should be required to understand it. Thanks Bill, for rebroadcasting this amazing program.

Posted by: Barbara Wood | August 13, 2007 5:57 PM

Wow! Mr. Moyers, you have hit the bull's eye again (as you did with Barbara Ehrenreich, as well). Last Friday's encore for Mr. Fein & Mr. Nichols was as powerful as the first visit. And the postings are as hopeful as anything can be these days. I'm encouraged that there are many of us out here. Maybe we can save this nation yet.

Posted by: Susan | August 13, 2007 3:29 PM

I am sending the attached to every member of the California delegation: BARBARA H. BERGEN Attorney-at-Law 1834 Stoner Avenue #8 Los Angeles, California 90025 (310)444-9663 email: barbara.bergen@gmail.com November 19, 2001 California Congressional Delegation Dear Sir or Madam: I am writing to all California members of Congress and the Senate about the unprecedented crisis facing our nation and all of us individually who you are mandated to represent. You will find that my views are neither extreme nor partisan but are motivated by my deep love of country and desire to preserve all that I and millions of others value. The citizen-statesmen who founded our nation understood that the rule of law must be preeminent in light of human flaws and foibles. They refused to accept the arbitrary rulings of a monarch whose self-interest was paramount to the interests of his subjects. The Constitution that resulted from the founders’ deliberations rivals the Magna Carta as the most brilliant codification of mankind’s highest aspirations in all of history. Each carefully crafted word, phrase and sentence was designed to provide the most security and freedom possible to the most people in the newly-formed democracy. The ideas memorialized in the document were formulated with...

Posted by: Barbara Bergen | August 13, 2007 3:04 PM

I too believe in Our Constitution, However I have lost faith in the Congress and The Senate.THey are too busy worrying about being re-elected, and are not going about doing business as it should be done. Checks and Balances are important and the current Politicians are too busy worrying about keeping their positions rather than representing "We" the people...Be Bold and Brave and give partisanship a rest.The oath taken was to the constitution not Republicans, Democrats or any of the other parties.

Posted by: Janet Castle, New City, New York | August 13, 2007 10:59 AM

your voices,letters,emails and telephone calls will not change anything both cheney and bush are international war criminals and still they are not impeached you are under dictator rule congress cannot act or the bush regime will bring down the other boot which is total dictatorship you all dont understand you no longer have a free country it staggers me to read what you people are writting you think you still live in the jeffersonian era today america is finacially banckrupt its over its been since reagan took power only a shuffling of cards and the ppt at the fed keep things afloat along with drug money you have been looted by a series of wars, pork barrel spendng and theft as in the 1.3 trillion missing in the pentagon no one is fired over it its a sham what don't yopu understand China owns you outright the un owns all your national parks you owe more than you can pay and its all by design they elite thinkers have done it under your noses it is thier insurance that the constitution is dismantled for good brake the back of the economy so that if Americans should protest the NWO and...

Posted by: dabe | August 13, 2007 5:35 AM

during the lead up to the war in Iraq Americans cheered for president Bush The Press was like a rabid dog urging war all of the media outlet's news personel were like zombies Pro war what have you become in America ? animals with rabies ! your Govt has looted your economy your govt has and is killing your children both with war and drugs your govt is your nemesis your news media its mouth piece with only lies and propaganda what has become of the proud Americans ask any of them on the street they are so iliterate that they believe America is suppose to be a democracy they dont even know it is suppose to be a constitutional republic now you will face your worst nightmare your own govt and the elites will turn on you your freedom will be gone forever and if you should buck the NWO they will see to it that your dollar is worth only 10 cents (indeed it is well underway )and then you will fall to your knees and beg for the NWO your forefathers spit on all of you from their graves their most cherished gift to all of you...

Posted by: dabe | August 13, 2007 5:09 AM

To sit and watch this program and see the bi-partisan passion of Nichols and Fein--so convincing as to why Impeachment needs to happen but yet knowing full well that it never will leaves a very hollow feeling in the pit of my stomach!

Posted by: Tommie27 | August 13, 2007 1:58 AM

Mr. Moyers, thank you for this episode on impeachment. I'd never before considered that, as your guest said, "impeachment isn't a constitutional crisis; impeachment is the solution to a constitutional crisis." Thanks for making me think.

Posted by: Daren Huber | August 12, 2007 11:57 PM

It is truly shocking that you failed to mention HR 333, the bill congressman Kucinich has introduced to impeach Dick Cheney. For those wondering what they can do to move impeachment forward, start with writing your local congressional representatives and asking them to sign on to HR 333. Your representatives need to know that there is support for this bill among their constituents.

Posted by: Allie | August 12, 2007 11:55 PM

Dennis Kucinich introduced HR. 333 to impeach Dick Cheney. Why don't you mention this on your program? Kucinich in 08!!!

Posted by: Ryan McCarthy | August 12, 2007 10:37 PM

Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Gonzalez should have been impeached long ago. Shame on both houses of Congress

Posted by: John Corey | August 12, 2007 10:35 PM

Thank you for the repeat and original program w/Fein & Nichols. To listen to men supposedly opposite thinkers and hear their agreement is exciting. I learned much re: the Federalist Papers and the Constitution. This administration is Criminal and Contemptible..all of them MUST be CHARGED and Jailed if possible.

Posted by: Lillisn E Goodman | August 12, 2007 10:34 PM

Appreciation for The Rule of Law needs to exceed 12 inches, a litre, or several meters; it needs to fill infinity to the brim and overflowing. It is the glue of civilization. Without it, and the order that it imposes, we are a lost world in the vastness of dark matter. Black Holes belong in the cosmos; not within our government. Cheney and Bush need to resign, or be impeached by the people that they have so cowardly attempted to betray calling their actions, leadership.

Posted by: Michele Woodbury | August 12, 2007 8:57 PM

I have emailed Nancy Pelosi and what else can I do? What else can any single voter do except write outraged emails to members of Congress (their own reps et al) and wait for a "power that be" to act. Where does the power of the outraged American people reside these days? Thank you for provoking thought and exercising free speech. Well done. The well deserved criticism re: the DK bill in Congress that you all failed to mention requires a response from such thinkers as you.

Posted by: Lisa Preney | August 12, 2007 8:25 PM

I watched your presentation on the case for the Impeachment of the President for the second time. I agree with your guests that this is a serious Constitutional crisis. I also know that this President will not be impeached. The country may be inclined to such an action, but it remains paralyzed by division. Most people I know are looking to the next election for a correction of the excesses and violations of this Administration. As a nation, we are in the position of those in Orwell's nightmare vision of the future, a future that is the now of an ill-informed, manipulated and fearful herd of consumers. We have abandoned the position of 'citizens.' This country is now in decline and no one can predict with any certainty how fast it will slde into chaos and tyranny.

Posted by: Kirk Fuss | August 12, 2007 8:17 PM

Thought provoking show but there were a couple of points missing. As others have mentioned Dennis Kucinich has a pending bill. But the least clear statement was the contention that a "true statesman" needs to come forward to put the Constitution first and politics second to start impeachment procedings. The example given of such an indvidual was Barry Goldwater. But the commentators never specified that this seminal moment was a Republican statesman confronting a rogue Republican President. Nancy Pelosi is absolutely correct that if she or the Judiciary Committee starts impeachment procedures without that kind of Republican ( and I very much emphasize Republican) statesmanship than it will be a political move and not a Constitutional one. As she has said, it will be decried as partisan and divide the country. The two commentators needed to specify that it is necessary for this statesmanship to come from the minority party in Congress--the President's own party or no Constitutional correction will occur.

Posted by: Lisa Ehrhardt | August 12, 2007 7:50 PM

Thank you Bill. The show was refreshing and educational. It is time we as Americans retrieve our civil rights. There is no excuse for endangering out constitution, our rights, and liberties. Not to mention the respect of the world. We need to respect the rights of citizens and our country first and if our leaders cannot then they should be removed.

Posted by: Gizelle | August 12, 2007 7:42 PM

I can add little to the positive comments already posted in regard to Bill's conversation with Nichols and Fein except to include my own praise. Like others, I have felt rather politically isolated for the past six and a half years, especially as a resident in Texas. What disturbs me as much as the failure of Democratic leaders to use the levers of power to correct the abuses of the Bush administration is the number of citizens who continue to defend it or who fail to realize the seriousness of its excesses.

Posted by: Mike Brown | August 12, 2007 7:33 PM

I have written letters as well on impeaching Cheney first then Bush...it seems many democrats have gotten quiet...or changed there goals... Rangel, Reid, Pelosi.....do you ever think maybe they or their families have been threatened with violence or whatever?

Posted by: susan | August 12, 2007 7:32 PM

I appreciate the feeling of empowerment I got from the 2 guests; they well summed up what I have been feeling all along about this administration. The balance of power is greatly in peril. I need to press my representatives to act. Congress has been complicit. For example, we all speak of the war. Does anyone recall our congress declaring war? No, instead they abdicated this responsibility by handing the president a blank military check. Read the quotes of James Madison. You'll get a chill down your spine.

Posted by: Tod | August 12, 2007 6:58 PM

How is it that you failed to mention Dennis Kucinich and his bill for impeachment? As others here have pointed out, this is unforgivable. Appalling journalism!

Posted by: Lee Swain | August 12, 2007 6:34 PM

I think it is an oversight not to have mentioned Dennis Kucinich's HR333 to commence impeachment proceedings on Bush and Cheney.

Posted by: Richard Bennett | August 12, 2007 5:06 PM

This discussion of impeachment is long overdue, but very informative. I'm also wondering why Kucinich was not given any credit here. I refer to this comment by JOHN NICHOLS: --there may be such people but their first step, their first step must be something that is very hard in these days of extreme partisanship and these days in money and politics and a media that doesn't cover politics very well. Their first step has to be to say, "I cherish my country more than my party and more than the next election." And so-- probably. We're talking about a Democrat." We're talking about Dennis Kucinich, and I think that you three gentlemen having this discussion should be giving him your support, rather than ignoring him!

Posted by: Betty | August 12, 2007 4:44 PM

Excellent job on pushing the case for impeachment but no mention of H.R.333! Why are you afraid to mention that Presidential Candidate Rep. Dennis Kucinich is already working actively to dispense with the constitutional menace posed by Dick Cheney? Kucinich at this point may well be the last guardian of the Constitution. Even Ron Paul won't take Bush and Cheney on. Where is the backbone in our government AND the media? Come on Bill! If your story isn't more smoke and Bull S. get out there and let the people know Dennis Kucinich is fighting OUR Fight! Working to right the wrongs done to our country and depose these war criminals.

Posted by: Vincent Colletti | August 12, 2007 3:37 PM

Shame on you Bill Moyers for your one sided viewpoint on impeachment and for ignoring Dennis Kucinich. I wonder Who is paying you?A VERY disappointing pro-Bush programme.

Posted by: Brenda | August 12, 2007 2:55 PM

Too many words here to get the average citizen to take action. 1st, we need a bulleted list of crimes (bullet-proof items, extremely well-researched, just the facts, NO hyperbole,no excess verbage). 2nd, buy a page in every major paper to present it. 3rd, make flyers of the list for people to print and pass out & hang on every bulletin board. 4th, call your local or national radio talk shows to note items on the list & explain where people can get it. 5th, organize a day for impeachment demonstrations across the country. Objective: every citizen should be able to cite at least 10 impeachable offenses of this administration. We have short term memories and are so stunned by the latest offense that we've forgotten the specifics of the crimes that came before. We need help to shake us out of our state of shock. Such a list would demonstrate the preponderance of evidence. We can't just keep complaining--we need concerted action to reach everyone.

Posted by: Susan Todd | August 12, 2007 2:18 PM

I support impeaching Bush, Cheney, and Gonzales. Mr. Kucinech really should have been brought into this conversation although it was a great broadcast. I really respect Mr. Fein.

Posted by: Brian | August 12, 2007 2:09 PM

George W. Bush: The Man in Retrospect 1), George W. Bush's lost year(AWOL) in 1972 reveals a cocky privileged son who used his family connections to avoid military service in Vietnam and spend seven months in Alabama partying. He clearly skipped out on National Guard duty and avoided a mandatory drug test, all while learning the politics of "dirty tricks," and deception. 2). Bush was arrested in 1972 for cocaine possession, and taken to Harris County Jail, but avoided jail or formal charges through an informal diversion plan involving community service with Project P.U.L.L., an inner city Houston program for troubled youths at the Martin Luther King Jr. Community Center in Houston's dirt-poor Third Ward. Community service was arranged by the Governor's father, ex-president Bush, after he caught Bush Jr. driving drunk. 3). It is not clear that George W fully understood the grand strategy that Wolfowitz and other aides were unfolding. The neo-cons took advantage of Bush's ignorance and inexperience. Unlike his father, a Second World War veteran who had been ambassador to China, director of the CIA and vice-president, George W was a thinly educated playboy who had failed repeatedly in business before becoming the governor of Texas...

Posted by: Jeffrey Hart | August 12, 2007 2:06 PM

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Posted by: b | August 12, 2007 1:39 PM

The Journal with Fein Nichols and Moyers was awesome. Some one who is good at their job is a beautiful thing to watch. I guess it took Moyers to come out of retirement and back on the air to start this conversation AGAIN (Kucinich and HR333). Bruce Fein is right about everything he said but mostly he’s right about the fact that their is no one in congress that seems to know how to impeach or what impeachment is for. To quote the panel "Impeachment is not the constitution in crisis but the cure for the constitution in crisis" The only way we can sell democracy to the rest of the world is not at the point of a gun but to show them that there are provisions in our system of government to deal rogue officials who make it through the election process but don’t hold the Constitution or the rule of law in high esteem. Impeachment also shows that we believe it when we say that all men are created equal and that no one is above the law. Without that we only show the rest of the world that we are a land of confusion and why...

Posted by: James O. Burns Jr. | August 12, 2007 1:39 PM

This whole idea of impeachment isn't new...Kucinich started it Months ago. I'm offended that mr Moyers left any mention of Dennis Kucinich out. Maybe he is afraid of endorsing him directly, I don't blame him, but he's sorta pathetic to not stand up for himself

Posted by: David Bauer | August 12, 2007 12:41 PM

Impeachment should proceed to ensure the balance of power is restored. Congress must impeach Bush and Cheney to eliminate the secracy that holds us hostage to their power.

Posted by: Gordon Kilgore | August 12, 2007 12:16 PM

Regarding impeachment—Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi don’t want to pursue impeachment due to the distraction from many pressing issues which have been brought on largely by this administration. I see their point. However, apparently half of the population and I believe this administration needs to be removed. Like most things in life, to move forward mistakes of the past have to be corrected, afflictions cured, infections lanced. Remove this festering boil.

Posted by: Jim Mueller | August 12, 2007 12:08 PM

How can you talk about H Res 333 and not talk about Dennis Kucinich?

Posted by: Asher | August 12, 2007 12:00 PM

Why no mention of Kucinich and HR333? We're already going for impeachment, why can't we let it be known that the congress can already start the process?

Posted by: Tom Windelborn | August 12, 2007 11:51 AM

I am tired of the corporate media ignoring actions already taken. HR333 a resolution to begin impeachment against Cheney was submitted by Rep Kucinich of Ohio months ago. You don't even mention this in you program. I truly believe the media has been corrupted by its corporate owners and refuses to pass the new on to the people. YOU are a waste of time if you can't provide accurate coverage of a topic. SELLOUTS.

Posted by: David Peter | August 12, 2007 11:47 AM

We must be mindful we are dealing with a system. Look for the workings of the unseen hand. To a certain extent we must essentially close our eyes in order to clearly see the truth. It has been clear, our own eyes cannot be trusted. Who could tell four or five years ago what we heard and saw was a deception? We question if the ball is red, or is it blue. Maybe my friends, there is no ball at all. Maybe the image of the ball was created in order to give teeth to a more outlandish and grand plan, one that is still in the making, even as we deliberate the virtues of our society. Impeachment is only the begining. Each man, woman and child must be reminded and taught the values of our society. They must understand that each citizen is responsible for the paths of this country. They must be reminded this system is a system of rule by the citizen of this country, and as such it is their responsibility to be informed and to participate in the government. It is a right and a duty,..to mantain and keep the light of democracy burning. For...

Posted by: Michael | August 12, 2007 11:34 AM

An entire show on impeachment and not one mention of Kucinich's bill on Cheney impeachment? Your show seems as biased as any media outlet which tries to sideline everyone who is not in the mainstream.

Posted by: Dave | August 12, 2007 11:31 AM

Why the complete blackout on who wrote and sponsors this legislation for impeachment of Cheney and Bush? Presidential Candidate Dennis Kucinich wrote HR333, the legislation for impeachment and your program never mentions it. He speaks for the people!

Posted by: Anita | August 12, 2007 10:42 AM

To the Editor, I am not naive to believe, “our country is safe”! The Congress and the Senate “abrogated their constitutional obligation”- “the absolute power...”. They transfered the “authority to the president to declare war ” based on a policy that is “fundamentally flawed”. The leaders “breached their duty, trust, obligation and responsibility”. Over 3668 killed, over 27000 wounded at a cost of over $500 billions dollars. “Abrogating constitutional duties, obligation” - justifies impeachment and clean both houses! “The biggest ECONOMIC PERIL.. is being ignored” by the Congress and Senate! “The most serious threat to the USA is not someone hiding in a cave in Afghanistan or Pakistan but our own fiscal irresponsibility"! The ECONOMIC PERIL - “a tsunami of spending that could swamp our ship of state”. $500 billions for the war but no funds for health care insurance for all Americans! $500 million dollars - grants for “the bridge to nowhere”, but no funds for prescription drugs, $700,000,000 million dollars for one district in California, but no funds to lift the standard of living for all Americans. “$50,000,000 for indoor rain forest in Iowa”. Our troops used “plywood, sand begs for protection“ while $2 billions dollars was spent...

Posted by: Chris | August 12, 2007 10:20 AM

I watched a good half of that Bill Moyers panel on impeachment and was pleased to see that Bruce Fein happens to be touted as a CONSERVATIVE constitutional scholar. He certainly minced no words about why he thought that GW should be impeached. Well, Bill Moyers, the GOP looked for every possible rationale as to why Clinton ought to get nailed, even to using his sexual proclivities to try to drive him out of office. But when we are looking at a serious refusal by a president to recognize or respect constitutional law, treaties and so on, we have a serious and federal case to make for removing this man from office. GW, Moyers, has a long track record, even before his days as a politician, of being highly unethical in his conduct. Which may well be why he is forever trying to conceal from the public real knowledge of his actions. Where that was known, the public did have an opportunity and an obligation to remove him from office in 2004. Because that did not happen, Congress now has an obligation to remove him from office beginning now. In response to another poster, it is my understanding that Al...

Posted by: Joan E. Harman | August 12, 2007 10:16 AM

Thank you for airing the Impeachment program again. My PBS station or the cable provider always seems to have technical difficulties when a program like yours is being shown. Anyway the truth is - 1. Bush and Cheney anr responsible for 911 happening. They were told AlQueda was going to use planes to attack us but did nothing at all to stop them. 2. Bush and Cheney were told by many sources Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction but using the fear factor he convinced most of the American population he did. 3. In a time of war Bush and Cheney gave the richest people in this country a huge tax cut not only putting the burden of paying for this Iraq war on the poor but also on the lives of the poor who can't find jobs other than joining the military. 4. Bush and Cheney have conspired to undermine the constitution of this country in the name of homeland security and our congress is letting them get away with it. 5. Bush and Cheney can't do anything unless it's about going to war or giving more tax payer money to the rich companies like the oil and...

Posted by: John Mayes | August 12, 2007 8:49 AM

I am glad that Impeachment is on the table for more people but am disappointed that there was no mention of Dennis Kucinich and his efforts to Impeach Cheney.

Posted by: Jen Parsons | August 12, 2007 3:02 AM

It’s refreshing to see this is happening. Now I can contact Patrick J Fitzgerald and tell him that Jeff Fisher is ready to lower the big boom on Richard B Cheney. The American Turkish Council and its direct relationship with BayPoint School. Mr. Cheney, meet the man who will defend the absolute truth. I am going to have you placed in Shackles for so many crimes. I was very upset the other day when Judge Roberts got ill. I gave to his Chief of Staff key information about you and the ATC and its connection to BayPoint School. Did you try to poison the Chief Justice? When George went into surgery I prayed with many people in DuPont Circle that he would be OK. You are more evil than George could ever be and George is quite evil. Do me a favor. Tell Chertoff his days are finished along with Alberto Gonzalez and Karl Rove I am so glad that James Earl Carter and Gerald Ford gave me the added courage along with my true belief in Jesus Christ to never forget about the 35 dead black teenagers I saw photos of on July 27th, 2004 along with so much...

Posted by: Jeff Fisher | August 12, 2007 12:26 AM

Now for Brad Friedman. Former NYPD member obtains deleted BradBlog info on Jeff Fisher Submitted by John Carter (not verified) on Sat, 2006-02-04 22:24. Jeff Fisher heard Medea Benjamin in Binghamton, New York during the St. Patrick Four Trial. They did not meet because he was working with Tarik. Ms. Benjamin will understand that it was important that Mr. Fisher not risk his exposure to the media then for it could have been disastrous for the Burn's family. Unfortunately his photo was taken and was published in the paper and somebody in law enforcement recognized him. Mr. Fisher got a warning from an individual that he was going to be questioned for his anti-war activities and within ten minutes he was on the road to Ithaca, New York to catch a bus to San Diego with three dollars in his pocket after buying his ticket. The trip took five days. He left with the clothes on his back and just three weeks of medicine. Now for the information that is in the header. Blogged by Brad on 1/8/2006 @ 1:33pm PT... Election Reform Sunday Double-Header Mark Crispin Miller & Brad, Back-to-Back on Air America Pheonix... Mark Crispin Miller and I...

Posted by: Jeff Fisher | August 12, 2007 12:21 AM

Brad Fiedman, you are now exposed. The truth must be completely exposed. Its like the oath of the land. You either adher to it or you get out or office. Tuesday, December 05, 2006 ......MESSAGE TO BRADBLOG DOT COM....... We are no longer playing games with you, or any of the media. You witness a serious and threatening crime relating to National Security, you report on it. http://thejefffisherfiles.blogspot.com http://www.thestraights.com http://www.erichufschmid.net/MasqueradeParty_Part_3.wmv http://chicagobearssuperbowlchamps.blogspot.com/ http://uspolitics.einnews.com/news/mark-foley We're doing this for a Jewish woman and her family, not for you. Its to show the world just how much censorship there truly is out there. You know it. You see its a fact that not only the corporate media, is fully pro corrupt Zionist. But the online media is as well, and we have the proof. http://nomorefraud.blogspot.com/2006/11/whistleblowers-circle-theft-of-country.html http://nomorefraud.blogspot.com/2006/10/musings-of-new-election-fraud.html http://nomorefraud.blogspot.com/2006/11/future-of-voting-now-lies-in.html http://nomorefraud.blogspot.com/2006/08/for-fbi-secret-service-us-marshals-all.html You may think you can hide, but you can't. No other places censor CIA agent Seymour Hersh's comments when he spreads the word of this crime. There isn't another which censors his very name. It happens to be yours, DailyKOS, LittleGreenFootballs and the many right/left wing pro-Zionist sites. Are you that horrified of the truth, that your friends in AIPAC....corrupt Frankist Zionists, for a fact did...

Posted by: Jeff Fisher | August 12, 2007 12:20 AM

Identity theft, Fraud, and worldwide Racketeering. by Jeff Fisher Wednesday November 22, 2006 at 05:40 AM jefffishervsgeorgebush2@gmail.com 770-715-2171 PO Box 7116 Atlanta Georgia 30357 The Truth Shall Prevail for Christ always Protects Me Reposted due to error in Title, email address and zipcode. I am very tired trying to save America from the computer room where my father lives in Buckhead, Atlanta. I just wish he would wake up and find out I have been here for almost two days waiting for him so I can tell him I love him. To: managers@msn.com, info@europol.europa.eu, International Courts pio@icc-cpi.int, US Marshals us.marshals@usdoj.gov, Russian News Agency info@primenewsonline.com, World Metro News World's Largest Newspaper info@metro.lu bcc xxxFBI@msn.com,changed for security issue cloak.dagger@gmail.com, xxxINS@gmail.com,changed for security issue Al James Jack Lancaster jacklancaster@sbcglobal.net>, Attorney Doug Wallace d.a.wallace@sbcglobal.net, Iran Daily News iran-daily@iran-daily.com, J.R.I. [Judicial Reform Investigations] justice@judicialjustice.us, J. Richard Niemela ricniemela@earthlink.net, Al-Jazeerah.info Dr. El-Najjar editor@aljazeerah.info, Foppe Dykstra foppe.dykstra@yahoo.com, Freedom Law School info@livefreenow.org, tom flocco tomflocco@cs.com, The future first lady soulfulchemistry@yahoo.fr, Ted Pike tedpike@truthtellers.org, The Exposé investigativeexpose@hotmail.com, Dr. James Zogby Thank you for letting me present my peace plan at AAI in 2003 with Dr. Casey Homasey in Dearborn Michigan Dennis Kucinich wasn't there but he has read it...

Posted by: Jeff Fisher | August 12, 2007 12:03 AM

Bill, how come you keep making references to agents of bin Laden when talking about the attacks of 9-11? Is it because you think the Philip Zelikow Whitewash Report was accurate? To date there has been NO evidence that might indicate that the attacks of 9-11 were anything other than a false-flag, or inside job. Also you say Al-Qaeda is attacking our troops in Iraq, would it be more accurate to say Iraqi freedom fighters are trying to repel the invaders? Bill don't let us down, tell us why you make the above asseertions. Thank you.

Posted by: Cozmo K | August 12, 2007 12:01 AM

Jesse Jackson, I am so glad you are on my side. Last year you made sure the information I handed you got to the correct people at the NAACP and they in turn got the Secret Service involved to investigate BayPoint School and Identity theft. FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE 7/5/2007 Contact: Butch Wing 510-701-8955 bwing@rainbowpush.org Rashida Restaino 773-256-2714 773-791-0014 rrestaino@rainbowpush.org Rev. Jackson Calls On Democrats to Put Impeachment Back On the Table CHICAGO (July 2, 2007) - The Rev. Jesse L. Jackson, Sr., founder and President of the Rainbow PUSH Coalition, issued the following statement on President Bush's action to commute the sentence of Lewis Libby: While no surprise, President Bush’s move to commute the 2 ½ year prison sentence of White House aide Lewis “Scooter” Libby is an affront to justice and fairness. Libby, chief aide to Vice President Cheney, was convicted on felony charges of perjury and obstruction of justice – caught concealing and lying about the actions of the White House regarding the “outing” of CIA operative Valerie Plame, and its manipulation of “evidence” to justify invading Iraq. Libby’s leaking of classified information and his obstruction of justice goes right to the heart of national security; yet he...

Posted by: Jeff Fisher | August 12, 2007 12:01 AM

Thank you Al Sharpton for being a good man to me and to Jennifer Lynn Masaryk Ellis. I enjoyed you going after IMUS while I was in prison for ready an email entitled Queen Hillary. The Secret Service arrested me for threat to Ms Clinton. The letter is about 44 people that were eliminated by Hillary over the course of time. I even pled guilty to get time served. A book about me got me free. Its because I am a Pro Life Democrat who does place his life in Christs hands when it is needed. To all the men in G-Pod at Northern Neck Regional Jail. I told you I would mention you. To Hassan Dibich, you are innocent and the government should stop trying to make you look like you are a terrorist. You are a Morrocan/American whose ex-wife stole all the money and placed the blame on you. You are completely innocent. Sharpton urges divestment to clean up rap lyrics Rev. Al Sharpton holds a rally in the rain in Dearborn, Michigan August 7, 2007, before attending a rally calling for music lyricists to stop using the "n-word" and derogatory language towards women in front of the...

Posted by: Jeff Fisher | August 11, 2007 11:52 PM

Thank you Edwar Kennedy for your help last year. STATEMENT OF SENATOR EDWARD M. KENNEDY ON IRAQ (As Prepared for Delivery) July 17, 2007 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Mr. President, these are very difficult days in our history. The war in Iraq continues to impose an unacceptably heavy toll on our military, their families, our national security, and our ability to lead the world. I intend to vote for the Levin-Reed amendment, and I urge the Senate to approve it. America is paying an enormous cost for a war we never should have fought, and it’s time to bring it to an end. The war has divided us here at home, and it has made us more isolated in the world. Never before, even in the Vietnam War, has America taken such massive military action with so little international support. As the intelligence community confirmed yet again today, the war has become a significant recruitment tool for Al Qaeda. It said, we assess that Al Qaeda’s “association with Al Qaeda Iraq helps Al Qaeda to energize the broader Sunni extremist community, raise resources, and to recruit and indoctrinate operatives, including for Homeland attacks.” This has obviously made the war on terrorism...

Posted by: Jeff Fisher | August 11, 2007 11:42 PM

To All Prosecutors, Delegates as well as Media; THE BIG FRAUD: VITTER & ABRAMOFF STYLE http://thinkprogress.org/abramoff-scandal http://www.jackinthehouse.org Senator David Vitter was involved in one of the biggest fraud schemes the world has ever seen. Besides being a paying customer to Pamela Martin & Associates, Vitter was also one hundred percent in the pocket of Jack Abramoff & the Turkish Russian Mafia......A match made in hell. " (Reed got $4 m altogether) Abramoff funneled cash to Federal level (Dept. of Interior, indirectly through CREA ($225 000), Gale Norton's former PAC, now run by Italia Federici to get access to Griles and Norton in Interior) and cash to Senators and Representatives to write letters to Interior to stop Jena. Abramoff was on first-name basis with Griles, Griles arranged meetings between Coushatta and MS Choctaw chiefs (MS Choctaw also an Abramoff client, also opposed Jena) and Norton. Meetings occurred at CREA functions as well as officially, at Interior. Vitter wrote letters to Interior, got 26 other house members to sign. Reed promoted Vitter in postcard campaign, who later won LA Senate race. Senators Breaux, Lott, Cochran send letters to Interior. January 29, 2002, In an e-mail Abramoff tells Scanlon "I have to meet...

Posted by: Jeff Fisher | August 11, 2007 11:40 PM

To All Delegates & Prosecutors as well as Media, Very interesting.......Boy oh boy, someone sure went to great lengths to cover this up. How many of us have learned by now what happens when we let the Church, or some organization get away with physical abuse & even murder for years and years??? http://20-248-c.onlinestoragesolution.com/neversurrender/file(4).html http://20-248-c.onlinestoragesolution.com/neversurrender/sembler-italian-kelebekler.htm Another Mel Sembler school grounds bites the dust.........Que Mas? "Pastor accused of dragging girl behind his van A trainer also faces charges in incident at boot camp By JEORGE ZARAZUA San Antonio Express-news A San Antonio pastor and an employee of his Christian boot camp were arrested Friday on aggravated assault charges, accused of dragging a girl behind a van after she failed to keep up during a running exercise. Investigators with the Nueces County Sheriff's Office arrested Charles E. Flowers, 46, shortly before noon at the Faith Outreach Center in northwest San Antonio, said Brad E. Bailey, a spokesman for the Schertz Police Department. Bailey said boot camp trainer Stephanie Bassitt, 20, was later arrested without incident at her home in Kirby. Flowers and Bassitt each were being held on $100,000 bail at the Nueces County Jail in Corpus Christi. Girl alleges second assault...

Posted by: Jeff Fisher | August 11, 2007 11:39 PM

Thank you Mike Gravel for Camp Democracy last year. Your advice of sticking to the facts and to God were so true. The War in Iraq Immediate and orderly withdrawal of troops followed by aggressive diplomacy. Read More about Senator Gravel's withdrawal plan. Iran Senator Gravel firmly opposes a military confrontation with Iran and advocates a diplomatic solution to the current situation. National Initiative for Democracy Empower Americans by giving us the mechanism––The National Ballot Initiative––to vote directly on issues which affect our daily lives. This power is similar to the initiatives used by citizens in 24 states and over 200 communities. A Fair Tax Eliminate the income tax and replace it with a progressive national sales tax - Fair Tax. Global Warming/Climate Change We must reduce America's carbon footprint in the world by passing legislation that caps emissions and improve energy efficiency while generating energy from low-carbon sources. Universal Healthcare Vouchers A National Health Care Voucher plan will provide health care for all Americans.

Posted by: Jeff Fisher | August 11, 2007 11:34 PM

Thank you Congressman Patrick Kennedy. Today I went to the Kennedy Center and cried. It was tears of joy because Rose KEnnedy was so good to me and I will be able to say that Camelot is returning to America very soon. God Bless the Kennedy family. Kennedy Supports "New Direction for Energy Independence, National Security, and Consumer Protection Act Friday, August 03, 2007 Washington, DC – Congressman Patrick Kennedy voted in support of H.R. 3220, “The New Direction for Energy Independence, National Security, and Consumer Protection Act”, which is making good on its promise to increase America’s energy efficiency and independence while reducing global warming. This bill is the first phase of The New Direction Congress’ ambitious energy policy goals. Congressman Kennedy is a member of the House Natural Resources Committee and the Energy and Mineral Resources Subcommittee in particular. This Committee played a large part in drafting the bill. “This Act is a decisive step towards neutralizing America’s carbon footprint. Increased energy efficiency will create jobs and lower energy prices while addressing the growing issue of Global Warming. The act also contains provisions to decrease our dependence on foreign oil, which will significantly bolster national security.” By extending...

Posted by: Jeff Fisher | August 11, 2007 11:32 PM

Thank You Ron Paul for helping me last year. You are a true American Patriot Congressman Ron Paul is the leading advocate for freedom in our nation’s capital. As a member of the U.S. House of Representatives, Dr. Paul tirelessly works for limited constitutional government, low taxes, free markets, and a return to sound monetary policies. He is known among his congressional colleagues and his constituents for his consistent voting record. Dr. Paul never votes for legislation unless the proposed measure is expressly authorized by the Constitution.

Posted by: Jeff Fisher | August 11, 2007 11:25 PM

Thqank you Dennis for being my friend Supporting Documents for H Res 333 Synopsis of Resolution Text of Resolution as Introduced in the House of Representatives Letter to Vice President Cheney Brief summary of impeachment procedure Supporting Documents for Article I Article I (1)(A): Transcripts of March 17, 2002 Press Conference by Vice President Dick Cheney and His Highness Salman bin Hamad Al Khalifa, Crown Prince of Bahrain at Shaikh Hamad Palace. Article I (1)(B): Transcripts of March 19, 2002 Press Briefing by Vice President Dick Cheney and Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon in Jerusalem. Article I (1)(C): Transcripts of March 24, 2002 Wolf Blitzer interview of Vice President Cheney on CNN’s Late Edition. Article I (1)(D): Transcripts of May 19, 2002 Tim Russert interview with Vice President Cheney on NBC’s Meet the Press. Article I (1)(E): Speech of Vice President Cheney at VFW 103rd National Convention on August 26, 2002. Article I (1)(F & G): Transcripts of September 8, 2002 Tim Russert interview with Vice President Cheney on NBC’s Meet the Press. Article I (1)(H): Transcripts of March 16, 2003 Tim Russert interview with Vice President Cheney on NBC’s Meet the Press. Article I (2)(A): Pincus, Walter and Priest...

Posted by: Jeff Fisher | August 11, 2007 11:21 PM

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Posted by: Jeff Fisher | August 11, 2007 11:19 PM

It's refreshing to see this is happening. Now I can contact Patrick J Fitzgerald and tell him that Jeff Fisher is ready to lower the big boom on Richard B Cheney. The American Turkish Council and its direct relationship with BayPoint School. Mr. Cheney, meet the man who will defend the absolute truth. I am going to have you placed in Shackles for so many crimes. I was very upset the other day when Judge Roberts got ill. I gave to his Chief of Staff key information about you and the ATC and its connection to BayPoint School. Did you try to poison the Chief Justice? When George went into surgery I prayed with many people in DuPont Circle that he would be OK. You are more evil than George could ever be and George is quite evil. Do me a favor. Tell Chertoff his days are finished along with Alberto Gonzalez and Karl Rove I am so glad that James Earl Carter and Gerald Ford gave me the added courage along with my true belief in Jesus Christ to never forget about the 35 dead black teenagers I saw photos of on July 27th, 2004 along with so much...

Posted by: Jeff Fisher | August 11, 2007 11:14 PM

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Posted by: Jeff Fisher | August 11, 2007 11:06 PM

What Jeff Fisher fights for as Secretary of Peace for Al Gore & Cynthia McKinney Jeff Fisher | 01.08.2007 21:39 | Indymedia | Iraq | Palestine | Birmingham | Scotland The truth is that I Jeff Fisher will be testifying against Vice President Richard B Cheney, Karl Rove, Alberto Gonzales and Michael Chertoff What Jeff Fisher fights for as Secretary of Peace for Al Gore and Cynthia McKinney Posted July 9th, 2007 by Jeff Fisher Mr. Gore Jeff Fisher is ready for you now in Washington DC The Book An American Patriot by Gary Koniz is the icing on the cake. Never judge a book by the cover, (its George Bush) the inside is dedicated to JFK. Remember Rose Kennedy was my pen pal from 1981-1983 I never gave up sir. I only told the truth about Baypoint School and July 27th 2004 and December 8th 2004. I can not let down America and the world for the atrocities that Baypoint School is responsible for. Our Elections being manipulated and the truth behind 9-11. Jeff Fisher e-mail: jefffisherwashingtondc@yahoo.com Jeff Fisher e-mail: jjf_mlk@yahoo.fr

Posted by: Jeff Fisher | August 11, 2007 11:03 PM

To the Huffington Post Jeff Fisher | 28.07.2007 22:58 | Indymedia | Iraq | Palestine | London | World The truth must prevail and I Jeff Fisher will not let all those that have died due to 9-11 be forgotten about. BAYPOINT SCHOOL To the Huffington Post by Jeff Fisher Saturday July 28, 2007 at 02:52 PM jjf_mlk@yahoo.fr The truth must prevail and I Jeff Fisher will not let all those that have died due to 9-11 be forgotten about. BAYPOINT SCHOOL As U.S. Rebuilds, Iraq Won’t Act on Finished Work As U.S. Rebuilds, Iraq Won’t Act on Finished Work By JAMES GLANZ Published: July 28, 2007 Iraq’s national government is refusing to take possession of thousands of American-financed reconstruction projects, forcing the United States either to hand them over to local Iraqis, who often lack the proper training and resources to keep the projects running, or commit new money to an effort that has already consumed billions of taxpayer dollars. I, Jeff Fisher have already spoken with the Iraqi Embassy last September 11th regarding peace in the region. I even wrote about it to get out of prison to Judge Alexander Williams. I read an email about 44 people...

Posted by: Jeff Fisher | August 11, 2007 11:02 PM

Who is Maria Cantwell? Robert Mak Reporter Former staff says she's smart, driven...but not warm and fuzzy. She went after Enron and saved Snohomish County ratepayers millions of dollars. She stared down Alaskan Senator Ted Stevens over drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. Tackling issues from biodiesel to mad cow disease to tsunami warnings, Maria Cantwell is described by staff and friends as a incredibly hard working and well-studied on policy. But will voters give her another six years? Former Cantwell campaign staffer Mike Seely says without hesitation that he'll vote for her. But Seely and several ex-staffers describe a hard-driving candidate who at times comes off distant and lacking warmth. Let's be honest--politics is filled with candidates who may not have Cantwell's understanding of public policy, but can charm voters with a smile and a handshake. Political consultant Ron Dotzauer, a close friend of Cantwell, says she's actually quite reserved and shy--and not about to pretend she's someone she's not. All of this paints and interesting picture, but in the end, does the way Cantwell treats her staff or relates to voters affect her job performance? Ex-staffers say the turnover on Cantwell's staff does make a difference, but...

Posted by: Jeff Fisher | August 11, 2007 10:58 PM

Where can I get a copy of the second interview with Nichols and Fein? I missed it last nite! thank you... melanie chartoff la

Posted by: melanie chartoff | August 11, 2007 10:55 PM

June 17, 2006 The Bear Ad It's telling that Lieberman's already gone negative on Lamont. It's also telling that his ad looks like it was created on one of those talking storybook programs I had as a kid. This, I guess, is what happens when incumbents are caught napping. And man, to approve a spot this amateurish, ol' Joe must be fast asleep... June 17, 2006 | Permalink TrackBack TrackBack URL for this entry: http://www.typepad.com/t/trackback/5134063 Listed below are links to weblogs that reference The Bear Ad: Comments "I guess, is what happens when incumbents are caught napping. And man, to approve a spot this amateurish, ol' Joe must be fast asleep..." While I understand you're just mimicking the CW through the lefty blogosphere, this is a spot on illustration of cocoon-think wish fulfillment. Because we disdain Bush's Iraq policy, we don't understand how his trip to Iraq could make good video for the average voter. Because we're supporting Lamont, we think the Lieberman ad is not effective. But it's actually a pretty effective ad, if you look at it from the Lieberman perspective. The audience is non-upscale Dems who aren't enamored with the more upscale appeal of Weicker - and...

Posted by: Jeff Fisher | August 11, 2007 10:54 PM

SANDIEGO INDYMEDIACynthia McKinney HOLDING PRESS CONFERENCE?Nick Trupiano 2006-12-09 16:51PRESS RELEASE:PRESS CONFERENCE REVEALED: WILL CYNTHIA MCKINNEY BE TALKING ABOUTELECTION FRAUD?Cynthia McKinney, official Congresswoman of Georgia retires after sending an impeachmentbill against President George W. Bush to the House Floor this Friday.Subjects to be discussed are according to our sources, Election Fraud, Impeachment, MarkFoley, Jeff Fisher and word has it an expose on the Administration.Is there something happening soon? It sure seems to be the case, follow us all through-out theweek and be sure to check in for our updates!PRESS RELEASE:PRESS CONFERENCE REVEALED: WILL CYNTHIA MCKINNEY BE TALKING ABOUT ELECTION FRAUD?Cynthia McKinney, official Congresswoman of Georgia retires after sending an impeachment bill against President GeorgeW. Bush to the House Floor this Friday.Subjects to be discussed are according to our sources, Election Fraud, Impeachment, Mark Foley, Jeff Fisher and wordhas it an expose on the Administration.Is there something happening soon? It sure seems to be the case, follow us all through-out the week and be sure to checkin for our updates!"Geoff Staples said...Bill,I can confirm. I just got off the phone with Tony, our station affiliate manager and Cynthia McKinney indeed is holding apress conference today.Nobody has any idea what its about, but...

Posted by: Jeff Fisher | August 11, 2007 10:51 PM

California | Indymedia National WhistleBlower Hotline by Roger Rancourt ( realcountscount [at] gmail.com ) Tuesday Aug 7th, 2007 2:01 PM Today, Jeff Fisher made so much noise in Washington DC that the website was attacked. Mr. Patrick J Fitzgerald from the Department of Justice is quite upset with this action against the First Amendment. Now we are going to try to post the site cached information for the world to see. National Whistleblower Hotline 202-580-8531 DISCLAIMER: All Donations pay for our whistleblower's food, clothes or housing. Please take just a minute out of your day. Your support is appreciated. All donations are accepted via paypal/stormpay. Also call 404-291-4171 for donating towards our court cases that will restore america. Send one in and call us directly. Wednesday, October 11, 2006 ELECTION FRAUD COVERUP http://www.sendnomoney.com/Sound/LouDobbsVoterFraudSeptember2006.mp3 (Disclaimer: Whistleblower Jeffrey Fisher married into the Fisher family. His ex-wife, Amy Fisher is who accomodated him with this surname. While Fisher is not his real last name, the Fisher family are in fact his ex-inlaws who live in Florida. For security purposes Jeff's real last name will be kept private.) ELECTION FRAUD COVERUP http://thestraights.com/the-straights/st-st-pete/abuses-st-pete.htm http://thestraights.com/theprogram/suicides.htm http://thestraights.com/theprogram/suicides-page2.htm#sheriff http://www.thestraights.com/index-p2.htm As we all know, AIPAC covering up election fraud...

Posted by: Jeff Fisher | August 11, 2007 10:49 PM

June 17, 2006 Weird What's wrong with this paragraph: IF ANYONE OTHER THAN POLITICAL JUNKIES cared about the race for Duke Cunningham's old congressional seat in California's 50th District, Democratic candidate Francine Busby's "you don't need papers for voting" blunder would rank with Gerald Ford insisting Poland wasn't communist, Michael Dukakis joy-riding in a tank, and John Kerry reporting for duty. Did Kerry's acceptance speech salute become a legendary gaffe while I wasn't looking? The "I voted for the $87 billion before I voted against it," maybe, but I seem to remember his speech going over surprisingly well. June 17, 2006 | Permalink TrackBack TrackBack URL for this entry: http://www.typepad.com/t/trackback/5134070 Listed below are links to weblogs that reference Weird: Comments Yeah, that and there isnt more than one period in the whole damn thing. Posted by: tony | Jun 17, 2006 6:24:33 PM From what I remember the "Lt Kerry, reporting for duty" thing was mocked pretty much on all sides. Maybe nothing huge, but certainly of the eye rolling type. Posted by: Nanette | Jun 17, 2006 6:34:13 PM I think the "reporting for duty" line was "mocked on all sides" in the sense that the people who were...

Posted by: Jeff Fisher | August 11, 2007 10:48 PM

EzraFolson Recent comments by this user Lessons Not Learned I agree but there are now 20 memeber of the congress that are onboard to impeach Cheney. I think some of it is because Jeff Fisher keeps going to embassies and human rights group seeking help in exposing the absolute truth behind BayPoint School. posted 08/07/2007 at 17:21:08 Now that is a loaded question. Why don't you all ask Jeff Fisher. He is the man that is making Democrats and Republicans sweat a lot. Now lets see if a link can be saved here, http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2007/08/07/18439338.php posted 08/07/2007 at 17:18:17 Clinton Cleavage Controversy Reaches New Heights Your wish and many more are going to happen. You can thank one man who did not fail America. Democrat Jeff Fisher who discovered the absolute truth on July 27th 2004 about BAyPoint School. Google AL Gore Jeff Fisher This is what the media has been trying to censure http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Al+Gore+Jeff+Fisher&btnG=Google+Search posted 07/31/2007 at 08:07:42 White House Salaries Released: Rove, Senior Aides Get $2,800 Boost Rove is finished thanks to Jeff Fisher. posted 07/30/2007 at 14:22:09 Ex-Rep. McKinney Sues Atlanta Journal-Constitution For Libel very good observation. I would love to meet this person and present them to...

Posted by: Jeff Fisher | August 11, 2007 10:46 PM

EzraFolson Recent comments by this user Lessons Not Learned I agree but there are now 20 memeber of the congress that are onboard to impeach Cheney. I think some of it is because Jeff Fisher keeps going to embassies and human rights group seeking help in exposing the absolute truth behind BayPoint School. posted 08/07/2007 at 17:21:08 Now that is a loaded question. Why don't you all ask Jeff Fisher. He is the man that is making Democrats and Republicans sweat a lot. Now lets see if a link can be saved here, http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2007/08/07/18439338.php posted 08/07/2007 at 17:18:17 Clinton Cleavage Controversy Reaches New Heights Your wish and many more are going to happen. You can thank one man who did not fail America. Democrat Jeff Fisher who discovered the absolute truth on July 27th 2004 about BAyPoint School. Google AL Gore Jeff Fisher This is what the media has been trying to censure http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Al+Gore+Jeff+Fisher&btnG=Google+Search posted 07/31/2007 at 08:07:42 White House Salaries Released: Rove, Senior Aides Get $2,800 Boost Rove is finished thanks to Jeff Fisher. posted 07/30/2007 at 14:22:09 Ex-Rep. McKinney Sues Atlanta Journal-Constitution For Libel very good observation. I would love to meet this person and present them to...

Posted by: Jeff Fisher | August 11, 2007 10:43 PM

vote for Gore... online! Posted July 19th, 2007 by gorewon2000 in Al Gore Politics CNN is linking to an online poll that could use more Gore votes: http://www.2008presidentialpoll.com/ Please vote in it, and share the link with your own groups. Also, I think we should each pledge to write at least one newspaper letter to our local papers and at least one to a newspaper that has a national reach in support of Gore for president. Letters to the editor do not take a lot of effort, and they can reach a massive audience. Not all letters get printed, but if a news outlet gets flooded with letters on an issue then they're likely to print at least one as a representative. The most obvious newspapers with a national audience are: The New York Times letters@nytimes.com The Washington Post letters@washpost.com USA Today letters@usatoday.com Let the day begin! Ben gorewon2000's blog Login or register to post comments The absolute Truth about why Al Gore will be President On July 19th, 2007 Jeff Fisher said: The truth why Al Gore will be President On July 9th, 2007 Jeff Fisher said: Reasons why Jeff Fisher fights for Al Gore and Freedom On July...

Posted by: Jeff Fisher | August 11, 2007 10:41 PM

http://www.democrats.org/a/2007/07/bush_has_18_app.php Bush Has 18% Approval Rating in New Jersey Posted by Stephanie Taylor on July 20, 2007 at 02:54 PM Email this Print this Blog this Digg this Holy cow. According to a new poll of 800 likely voters in New Jersey, Bush's approval rating has dropped to 18%. The question: "Do you approve or disapprove of President Bush's overall job performance?" Of the voters polled, 18% approve, 71% disapprove, and 11% are undecided. Comments - 13 » Comments - 13 « WOW! That's even lower than the 19% he's getting in Wisconsin! I especially like this line from the Milwaukee Journal/Sentinel: Strategic Vision is a GOP firm based in Atlanta that has polled independently in Wisconsin and several other states since 2004. The poll had a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points. (bold, mine) Bush's approval rating hits new low in state poll Job approval at 19%; 17% back Iraq handling Posted by DPD on July 20, 2007 at 04:46 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by DPD on July 20, 2007 at 04:46 PM Good grief! Anyone else out there have polling to report from your states? Posted by Stephanie on July 20, 2007 at 05:04 PM...

Posted by: Jeff Fisher | August 11, 2007 10:39 PM

What Jeff Fisher fights for as Secretary of Peace for Al Gore & Cynthia McKinney Jeff Fisher | 01.08.2007 21:39 | Indymedia | Iraq | Palestine | Birmingham | Scotland The truth is that I Jeff Fisher will be testifying against Vice President Richard B Cheney, Karl Rove, Alberto Gonzales and Michael Chertoff What Jeff Fisher fights for as Secretary of Peace for Al Gore and Cynthia McKinney Posted July 9th, 2007 by Jeff Fisher Mr. Gore Jeff Fisher is ready for you now in Washington DC The Book An American Patriot by Gary Koniz is the icing on the cake. Never judge a book by the cover, (its George Bush) the inside is dedicated to JFK. Remember Rose Kennedy was my pen pal from 1981-1983 I never gave up sir. I only told the truth about Baypoint School and July 27th 2004 and December 8th 2004. I can not let down America and the world for the atrocities that Baypoint School is responsible for. Our Elections being manipulated and the truth behind 9-11. Jeff Fisher e-mail: jefffisherwashingtondc@yahoo.com Jeff Fisher e-mail: jjf_mlk@yahoo.fr

Posted by: Jeff Fisher | August 11, 2007 10:37 PM

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Posted by: Jeff Fisher | August 11, 2007 10:34 PM

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Posted by: Jeff Fisher | August 11, 2007 10:31 PM

This is for Patrick J Fitzgerald to use as evidence if this is censured. http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/blog/2007/08/impeachment_the_conversation_c_1.html

Posted by: Jeff Fisher | August 11, 2007 10:28 PM

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/blog/2007/08/impeachment_the_conversation_c_1.html

Posted by: Jeff Fisher | August 11, 2007 10:26 PM

It’s refreshing to see this is happening. Now I can contact Patrick J Fitzgerald and tell him that Jeff Fisher is ready to lower the big boom on Richard B Cheney. The American Turkish Council and its direct relationship with BayPoint School. Mr. Cheney, meet the man who will defend the absolute truth. I am going to have you placed in Shackles for so many crimes. I was very upset the other day when Judge Roberts got ill. I gave to his Chief of Staff key information about you and the ATC and its connection to BayPoint School. Did you try to poison the Chief Justice? When George went into surgery I prayed with many people in DuPont Circle that he would be OK. You are more evil than George could ever be and George is quite evil. Do me a favor. Tell Chertoff his days are finished along with Alberto Gonzalez and Karl Rove I am so glad that James Earl Carter and Gerald Ford gave me the added courage along with my true belief in Jesus Christ to never forget about the 35 dead black teenagers I saw photos of on July 27th, 2004 along with so much...

Posted by: Jeff Fisher | August 11, 2007 10:20 PM

It’s refreshing to see this is happening. Now I can contact Patrick J Fitzgerald and tell him that Jeff Fisher is ready to lower the big boom on Richard B Cheney. The American Turkish Council and its direct relationship with BayPoint School. Mr. Cheney, meet the man who will defend the absolute truth. I am going to have you placed in Shackles for so many crimes. I was very upset the other day when Judge Roberts got ill. I gave to his Chief of Staff key information about you and the ATC and its connection to BayPoint School. Did you try to poison the Chief Justice? When George went into surgery I prayed with many people in DuPont Circle that he would be OK. You are more evil than George could ever be and George is quite evil. Do me a favor. Tell Chertoff his days are finished along with Alberto Gonzalez and Karl Rove I am so glad that James Earl Carter and Gerald Ford gave me the added courage along with my true belief in Jesus Christ to never forget about the 35 dead black teenagers I saw photos of on July 27th, 2004 along with so much...

Posted by: Jeff Fisher | August 11, 2007 10:18 PM

It’s refreshing to see this is happening. Now I can contact Patrick J Fitzgerald and tell him that Jeff Fisher is ready to lower the big boom on Richard B Cheney. The American Turkish Council and its direct relationship with BayPoint School. Mr. Cheney, meet the man who will defend the absolute truth. I am going to have you placed in Shackles for so many crimes. I was very upset the other day when Judge Roberts got ill. I gave to his Chief of Staff key information about you and the ATC and its connection to BayPoint School. Did you try to poison the Chief Justice? When George went into surgery I prayed with many people in DuPont Circle that he would be OK. You are more evil than George could ever be and George is quite evil. Do me a favor. Tell Chertoff his days are finished along with Alberto Gonzalez and Karl Rove I am so glad that James Earl Carter and Gerald Ford gave me the added courage along with my true belief in Jesus Christ to never forget about the 35 dead black teenagers I saw photos of on July 27th, 2004 along with so much...

Posted by: Jeff Fisher | August 11, 2007 10:15 PM

I'm very disappointed that Bill Moyers is still ignoring Kucinich in regards to this issue. I think we would have all been better served if Bill had invited Kucinich on the Journal to talk impeachment rather than just play this piece again. Anyone looking for leadership in congress on the impeachment issue among many others should visit kucinich.us. He also happens to be running for president.....ahem.

Posted by: Matt | August 11, 2007 9:27 PM

While I agree with everything that was said by your guests about Bush and Cheney, I am sick and tired of the comparisons to Bill Clinton. PBS played it safe by showing a vignette of Clinton's impeachment, pictures of Paula Jones, etc. Clinton was impeached purely as a power grab, by hypocrites like Bob Barr, who was having an affair of his own. Moreover, how could you possibly ask, with any sincerity, whether we needed more Tom Delays in Congress. Like Bush and Cheney, he would do anything to feed his greed. Bush and Cheney should be impeached immediately. Clinton's impeachment was a despicable act and destructive to the country.

Posted by: Mark | August 11, 2007 9:26 PM

Bruce Fein and John Nichols explaining why Bush and Cheney must be impeached. They did a fantastic job of explaining what is at stake for the future of our democracy if Bush and Cheney are not held to account by being impeached. Bravo!

Posted by: Charles Novitski | August 11, 2007 8:55 PM

Another outstanding job of investigative reporting by Bill Moyers. This is the kind of information the public needs in order to begin to take back our government from the neoconservatives who simply do not believe in democracy. I do however take issue with the short video on John Kerry which was totally taken out of context, and actually distorts his views about the war. Let's look at what Kerry said after that quote used here as he voted on the senate floor: "The administration, I believe, is now committed to a recognition that war must be the last option to address this threat, not the first, and that we must act in concert with allies around the globe to make the world's case against Saddam Hussein. Let me be clear, the vote I will give to the President is for one reason and one reason only: To disarm Iraq of weapons of mass destruction, if we cannot accomplish that objective through new, tough weapons inspections in joint concert with our allies. In giving the President this authority, I expect him to fulfill the commitments he has made to the American people in recent days -- to work with the United...

Posted by: Connie Schuett | August 11, 2007 8:20 PM

let's bring the fairness doctirne to PBS so both sides can be present with the same amount of time. Once agin bill you left leaning ideas are there. Let's defund PBS or have PBS give the same amount of time to the other side to be FAIR>

Posted by: david | August 11, 2007 7:20 PM

I'm going to send this link to CNN, FOX and MSNBC. Those lame "journalists" need to get off their duffs and make like they belong to the Fourth Estate. Edward R. Murrow must be spinning in his grave! Thank the gods for PBS.

Posted by: Wanda LaCroix | August 11, 2007 7:18 PM

Encore! Encore! Bravo!!!Bravo!!! Mr. Moyers show may be the tipping point that has not occured..the one where Impeachment appears at the center of a great big round table and all Americans can see it on CSPAN!!! Mr. Moyers, John Nichols, and Bruce Fein have my respect and gratitude for what may help save the Constitution and our freedom!!! I vote to see it again after Sep 4th if Pelosi does not act following her vacation. For more Impeachment News and Reviews..see... AfterDowningStreet.org

Posted by: Stephen Maxwell | August 11, 2007 6:51 PM

Bill Moyers, you are a Saint in my book! Bless you and PBS for producing and airing this program on Impeachment (and your entire Journal program). If only the network channels showed such courage, compassion, creativity and spunk. I believe Cheney and Bush W. should have been impeached in 2000. Was this premature? Hoho, I think not! Their crimes against our Constitution, the Environment and People of the World are gut-wrenching, depressing, demoralizing and disempowering...how successful they are! They came into power illegally and they are devastating all I hold dear. But, there is hope...if we insist our Congress get off thier butts, develop spines and take action! Thank you, Bill Moyers and PBS. More, more, more...please! Bill Moyer’s Journal is the best program on TV...superb journalism. I wish every citizen 10-years-old (younger? sure!) to 110 would tune in.

Posted by: Susan Livingstone Montana | August 11, 2007 6:09 PM

I agree with John Nichols that Impeachment is not a constitutional crisis but the remedy to a constitutional crisis; and that if congress and the media were doing their jobs the Bush-Cheney team would have been nipped in the bud. Congress needs to start impeachment proceedings on both of them, NOW! Bill, Id like to see you invite Chalmers Johnson onto your show to provide another wake-up call to America. Maybe Noam Chomsky as well.

Posted by: Steve S | August 11, 2007 5:55 PM

This is an opportunity to find out more about the actions taken by Congressman Ron Paul to restore the Constitution to it's rightful place as the law of the land: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFfdB5OzlyQ

Posted by: Craig Thomas | August 11, 2007 5:13 PM

It was so refreshing and inspiring to finally hear an intelligent dialogue between a Democrat and a Republican on Bill Moyer’s Journal! Not to mention, honest conversation about the need for Impeachment! The candid discussion, between the three of you, educated the public in understanding that Impeachment is a cure, and not a punishment. It is a necessary process to control the Executive Branch’s lawlessness. It is clear that at this moment in time, an Impeachment is essential for the future of America. Our Democracy is crumbling. This Administration has made a mockery of our principles. Incredulously the entire Congress, Senate, Executive Branch and the Media seem to be bound together, unwittingly promoting a Fascist Ideology. They have made us trade our Liberty for an illusive Security. Their answer to ‘Terror’ is to terrorize other countries and any body who happen to be in their way. This Administration has deceptively taken us into an illegal war. Our Government has brought shame upon our country and to humanity. The world sees us as hypocrites. They view our Nation as fair weathered Democracy. What happened to the simple proven notion that torture never produces any viable information! What about the fundamental rights...

Posted by: Marco Biswas | August 11, 2007 4:28 PM

Write your congressmen and tell them to support Dennis Kucinich's bill to impeach Cheney. There is a Representative from Ohio who comes from defending the constitution, voted no on invasion of Iraq, voted no on funding the war, and stands on all important issues instead of dancing the dance of politics to the big oil and the insurance corporates tune. Thats Dennis Kucinich. Look him up: Kucinich for President. Another good website: ww.expertvoter.com

Posted by: Anna Marchant | August 11, 2007 4:09 PM

I posted twice yesterday and haven't seen either one. There are apparently numerous people and organizations that are attempting to "reinstate" the Constitution and it's limitations on the Federal Government as the law of the land. The document has been trashed by all three branches of government for many years prior to the Bush administration, perhaps not to the degree that this current Executive Branch has, but it has been done in increments. Unfortunately, the American people are apathetic to information that is not of the " feel good" variety. But I thank Moyer for trying to present a different view not usually heard on the six o'clock network news. With respect to impeachment, the democrats have no credibility since it appears they are attempting to pay back the republicans for their treatment of Bill Clinton. Although he hasn't call for impeachment as far as I know, Congressman Ron Paul has been the champion of the Constitution for many years in all cases, and has been the most articulate critic of the Bush administration specifically and the neo-con movement in general.

Posted by: Craig Thomas | August 11, 2007 4:05 PM

My congratulations on running the impeachment program again. I hope that more Americans will pay attention to this vital issue. As to Nancy Pelosi's position, I feel that both your guests failed to understand the predicament she is in. There are just not enough votes in the House (or Senate) to support impeachment at this time -- all Republicans would vote against it, and so would some Democrats. If this were brought up for a vote, it would suffer an embarrassing defeat, killing off any prospect of it being introduced later. If more Republicans would cave in, it would be a different story, but we have what we have. Trying to open a serious impeachment investigation would also be doomed to defeat. About the only strategy left open to Pelosi and Reid is to keep up the investigations by Waxman and others, in the hope that the truth will eventually prevail and reach these stubborn GOP holdouts. At the same time, I urge everyone to write to Nancy and our congresspersons regarding the evils of this presidency and the need for impeachment. Let's keep up the pressure.

Posted by: William Barrett | August 11, 2007 3:56 PM

Bill .. just a short added suggestion .. I am not computer illiterate, but I did have a little trouble posting on your blog (about Dennis Kucinich H. Res. 333 to impeach); it was not very intuitive. Better get your webmaster to make it easier. With all the positive comments, it blows my mind how many there might have been had it been easier!

Posted by: Elizabeth Sheppard | August 11, 2007 3:54 PM

With everso sincere gratitude, thank you Bill Moyers for such Keen, Objecitve and realistic Journalism and your show Friday Aug 10, 2007. Let us" WE THE PEOPLE" - all U. S. Citizens living into this twentyfirst century- set a well balanced tone for Democracy in this Republic - IMPEACH the BUSH/CHENEY ADMINISTRATION; even dis-elect those who in congress are not more than a " Pot calling a Kettle Black "; and thereby together, teach to succeeding generations of "WE THE PEOPLE" that the Wisdom of the Founding Fathers imparted through the United States' Constitution gives us the means (IF/ When-Necessary) for a Peaceful diplomatic -under RULE of LAW REVOLUTION. YES! Absolutley! WE THE PEOPLE SHOULD IMPEACH and demad from Congress the Process of Impeachment for Both the Vice President and the President and thereby send a Clear message about Democracy to all the World and restore hope for each and all whose rights are now clearly in jeopardy by many within our unwholsome government. Yours Very truly yours, L.R.McC.-G.

Posted by: Leander R. Mccormick-Goodhart | August 11, 2007 3:51 PM

There are no words in any language of this earth that do proper justice to the sheer rot in the bowels of George Bush and Dick Cheney...and their mere presence anywhere near the nation's capitol constitutes proof positive that the average American votes with his or her big toe...and it is not the one that contains the single brain cell, and that the American people don't care what gets dredged out of the estuary and dumped on the plush carpeting of high office. Throughout six very miserable years of the mass murder of 3/4 of a million Iraqi people on their own soil and bald faced pathological lies, the Bush reptilian regime has made certain that as a once free nation, America now lies dead...I mean face down in the gutter in a pool of its own blood DEAD. Not a solitary bit of this has to do with whether I am a phlegmocrat or a gopster---quite in fact I solemnly hate both parties and the way they have BOTH sold the American people and our CONSTITUTION out to Israel. The impeachment, criminal prosecution and execution of Bush and Cheney is but a mere first step on the long and...

Posted by: Bob Hauser | August 11, 2007 3:27 PM

I agree with Bruce Fein for the most part- “Most important thing for the American people to know is that the great genius of the founding fathers, their revolutionary idea, with the chief mission of the state is to make you and them free to pursue their ambitions and faculties. Not to build empires, not to aggrandize government. That's the mission of the state, to make them free, chart their own destiny. And the burden is on the government to try to understand why that freedom has to be curtailed for a security purpose or otherwise.” I found last nights dialogue one of the only intelligent non political discussions I have seen on Television in the last few years. This isn't about Republicans or Democrats this is ABOUT America and OUR FREEDOMS. As a long time conservative I find it so so hard to believe what some of the new cons ...I mean NEO CONS are saying and I find it harder to believe how so many of my fellow Americans buy the trash that is flushed down their throats. This President and VP needs to understand that we see him and understand how he is under the cover of...

Posted by: Paul Revere | August 11, 2007 3:05 PM

I posted already, but I don't see it out there, so I'll try again. Does everyone know about the march on Washington re. insisting on impeachment proceedinds starting now?? I hope that many who are posting plan to attend this on September 15. Ramsey Clark is putting it together and it should be not only enlightening, but fun as well. This subject couldn't be more important, but a public who is raised on the pablum they call history have missed out on really the most vital struggles of the American people. If we pull away from all of the tv watching in favor of public participation in our own governing, we CAN actually cause change that is way overdue. Wouldn't the corporations such as the pharmaceuticals and the big defense contractors be surprised??

Posted by: Betsy Morrow | August 11, 2007 2:51 PM

I saw the program on impeachement last night. I have wondered why impeachment proceedings have not been started for most of time that Bush/Cheney have "reigned". I particurarly liked the comments that they believe they are above the law and reign like kings. My question is: since no one in the congress seems to have the courage to begin the impeachment process, is there a way for the public to get it started? Bush/Cheney have got to be "reigned in" before there is so much damage done that US & the world can't recover. Please tell us how we can take back our country and stop the damage being done by power mongers like Bush/Cheneny. The Congress is not much better than the Pres as they have abdicated their power and rights. Can somebody please get us back on the path that the founding fathers dreamed for us?

Posted by: Sheila Hammond | August 11, 2007 2:41 PM

Thanks once more for the show last night. I will send Nancy Pelosi an email and encourage others to do the same. Keep it up.

Posted by: Thayer Heath | August 11, 2007 2:38 PM

Apparently some of the people writing in didn't actually view the program. To call Bruce Fein a "liberal" is laughable. Mr. Fein is a Constitutional scholar who served in several positions in the Reagan Administration, has been an adjunct scholar at AEI and the Heritage Foundation (two extremely far Right think tanks), writes for the Washington Times (a far Right publication), and led the charge to impeach President Clinton. If I may quote Mr. Fein himself as a proper description of him, "He is a man who places his love of his country over the love of his party."

Posted by: Ron Shafer | August 11, 2007 2:33 PM

The Oath of Office of The President of The United States of America is as follows. “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States”. It is the primary job of the President of the United States of America to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States. This, the President has failed to do. A Constitutional crisis exists and who among you will step up to challenge that we face as a nation. Who among you has the courage, conviction, and sense of what the framers of the Constitution had in mind when they determined that no one, not even the President is above the law. Who among you will put the fate of the Nation, the fate of the United States Constitution, above party politics, partisanship, party loyalty, or reelection campaigns? A very real threat exists to our very form of government, to our very Democracy. A very real crisis faces the basic tenets and foundation of our way of life, our Constitution and our Democracy and our...

Posted by: Skip Speer | August 11, 2007 2:22 PM

I fully agree with impeachment (check out the link in my email signature below, and please feel free to make this your email signature as well). However, the larger problem is the public being uninformed about these HUGE problems to anywhere even remotely close to the degree that we should be. To help solve this problem, NPR and PBS need to be extremely well funded by the government. They are one of the few public services available to keep the public informed, which is a critical part of the proper functioning of our country. In fact, all TV stations should be required to have extremely well-funded news programs that the stations or owners can not affect any editorial or management decisions of. These programs should have daily prime-time spots as part of the requirement for each TV station license. The funds to support these news programs should just be part of the license deal: funded by those who are applying for the license. The networks make so much money anyway, they will definitely agree: to the serious betterment of our country! See: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9185122577177790396&hl=en Read: Hostile Takeover Read: The Assault on Reason Act: http://www.workingforchange.com/activism/ -- Stand for something or fall for...

Posted by: Bret | August 11, 2007 2:19 PM

Could we please make this required viewing for all Americans? I've often felt that this view is ridiculed by the right-wing pundits. When people receive their news from entertainment sources like Fox News, they don't hear this kind of thing. We need to push the Democrats to do the right thing. I'll call.

Posted by: Carol L. | August 11, 2007 2:02 PM

I have reviewed the the posts here concerning the Impeachment of President Bush. The particulars have been adequately stated here at length. It sufficient and accurate to say: This President is dangerous to our way of life. " . . . when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. . . ."

Posted by: Brian Duncan | August 11, 2007 1:52 PM

Dear Mr. Moyers, I was happy to catch the re-broadcast of this show. As a veteran, and an American who is disheartened by what I see happening in, and to, our country, I wonder what exactly we can do at this stage to rein in this administrations blantent misuse of power in just about every sphere of our lives. When the people are ignored by their elected representitives, what real options do we have. It pains me to say that, as I have given part of my life in service to this country, but we must take back the control. And I would be all for any one of the "moderator's" who will be involved in the future debates (if you want to call them that, to date they've been pretty lame) who would hold all of their feet to the fire. But, that's not very likely. So, all I would ask is that you, Mr. Moyers, make this issue a staple part of your show. If you've got to shout it from the rooftops, I'll bring the ladder.... In the mean time...keep up the work on these rouges...

Posted by: Wayne Soares | August 11, 2007 1:37 PM

I thoroughly appreciated this program, Mr. Moyers. But I would like to know why you did not make mention of the fact that Congressman Dennis Kucinich introduced articles of impeachment of Dick Cheney, and that it has 19 cosponsors. There is a huge movement among the people, who are being led by Presidential candidate Kucinich to clean up the poison which is polluting Washington and America. I am sure you are aware of Kucinich's bill, and would like you to address why it was not mentioned in your program.

Posted by: Tomi Phillips | August 11, 2007 1:30 PM

As long as the president and Vice President think the rule of law does not apply to them and try to use Executive privledge to cover there tracks the bill of Rights is in Jeopardy and so are our freedoms,If impeachment is the only way then hop to it we elected a president not a King.

Posted by: Robert Reddard | August 11, 2007 1:26 PM

i have suspected for some time that 9/11 was aput up job to scare us all so that bush/cheney could do what they wanted.and that 2000 and2004 werecoups.wake upamerica,there wont be an 0/8, unless we start impeachment proceedings now

Posted by: barbara walling | August 11, 2007 1:18 PM

Bill Moyers may call himself a journalist but he is just another actor with an agenda. To present opinions as facts, which is what Nicols and Fein did, without rebuttal is typical of the liberal spinmeisters. They haven't gotten over losing in 2000 yet! Quite frankly, if Bush is responsible for all they blame him (wars, hurricanes, bridge collapses, etc) he's quite a guy. How come they never give him credit for the low unemployment, thriving economy, job creation, etc.?Typical liberals. And those who preach impeachment should be careful what they wish for. Pelosi is a pathetic leader. She can't even get her own party to do what she wants.

Posted by: A Murdock | August 11, 2007 1:02 PM

My only regret about this program is that no one mentioned Cheney's PNAC , and how this racketeering organization conspired all this mass murder even before W got into office. If PNAC had been RICO'd before November 2000, then we might not have to discuss impeachment now. I guess the topic of PNAC would be best dedicated to an entire seperate program. But why has the press, even independant press, muzzled and censored itself when it comes to the PNAC? If they had only reported the cause, there would have been no need to report , hopefully, the cure. http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf

Posted by: yankhadenuf | August 11, 2007 12:23 PM

With the Congress so reluctant to impeach Bush and Cheney have basically become impeachment proof. They have no reason to change their conduct because no one is willing to stop them in the least. Congress can pass a million laws on what the President can and cannot do. He can even sign everyone of them. But they all mean nothing if the President just ignores them and does as he wants anyway especially when the Congress does nothing about it. And Bush and Cheney know it. I feel the real reason Congress is reluctant to go after Bush is because he is seen as a war president. They don't want to take the fall if we get attacked while he is impeached and especially after he is driven from office. They also don't want to be seen as being the reason we lose in Iraq. If Bush is removed from office and Iraq war effort fails shortly after the Congress, particularly the democrats, will be blamed for the loss. The cry will be we almost won but the democrats pulled the plug before we could finish the job. By the way for what reason does Bush have to be so...

Posted by: Tim Gruber | August 11, 2007 12:02 PM

With the Congress so reluctant to impeach Bush and Cheney have basically become impeachment proof. They have no reason to change their conduct because no one is willing to stop them in the least. Congress can pass a million laws on what the President can and cannot do. He can even sign everyone of them. But they all mean nothing if the President just ignores them and does as he wants anyway especially when the Congress does nothing about it. And Bush and Cheney know it. I feel the real reason Congress is reluctant to go after Bush is because he is seen as a war president. They don't want to take the fall if we get attacked while he is impeached and especially after he is driven from office. They also don't want to be seen as being the reason we lose in Iraq. If Bush is removed from office and Iraq war effort fails shortly after the Congress, particularly the democrats, will be blamed for the loss. The cry will be we almost won but the democrats pulled the plug before we could finish the job. By the way for what reason does Bush have to be so...

Posted by: Tim Gruber | August 11, 2007 11:59 AM

I've been on the streets of Kentucky capturing events with my video camera. The people are ready for impeachment and ready to end the Iraq debacle. Below is a link to some of the events I've covered. http://www.hillbillyreport.com/blog/2007/07/hillbilly-re-19.html

Posted by: James Pence | August 11, 2007 11:53 AM

Good luck with impeachment, you will need it. The democrates are almost as corrupt and complicite in these high crimes that that is no power that will hold this criminal regime to account. I have watched this whole war criminal regime from north of the border and the thing that has amazed me the most is the complicty of the media in promoting the lies and cover ups of this regimes crimes. The american people are in grave danger as is the constitution, and you are under threat from both the democrates and republicans and the plutocrates who own both parties and your media... Here is to a fools hope.

Posted by: kai taylor | August 11, 2007 11:41 AM

Two points. First, impeachment is unrealistic. The Republicans, regardless of their views, will not vote for it and therefore any attempt will be merely symbolic. Better to spend energy on a good outcome in the next Presidential year. Second. I don't want my next point to be misunderstood. As bad as Bush and Cheney are (and they are bad), they are not Hitler, and I am not comparing them to Hitler. Nevertheless, we should think about what we would have and should have done had we lived in Germany when Hitler came to power. For most of the past six years we, the people, and our elected representatives have stood by and allowed abuses of the Constitution with little more than whimpers. The noise level is rising - better late than never, and the Fourth Estate is finally piling on after years of being afraid to speak out (with the exception of a minority of brave ones like Bill Moyers). We need to turn around our national complacency or we may not be able to restore the greatness of our system. We need a robust public discussion of how to put a stop to the abuse of power by any...

Posted by: Lynn Lander | August 11, 2007 11:40 AM

Its too late. The American people should have acted long before now during the first rounds of Watergate, Iran-Contras which never was rectified in the minds of Americans or the courts. What we have in this nation is an enormous body of people who have contributed to this mayhem and miasma and who have and will continue to profit from a lawless land. I grieve for what has become of a once great nation.

Posted by: DTLincoln | August 11, 2007 11:30 AM

it is time to save our constitution and move to impeachment mode. time for action.

Posted by: Ginger Bonham | August 11, 2007 11:27 AM

In response to Naida Lavon's post: please find yourself a place in a faith group where support and action can be yours. If you're in Portland or Seattle, let me know here, and I'll direct you to specific congregations that include people who are justice/action/ progressively involved and also supportive of each other. I can suggest churches in many other NW localities. People from other faith groups could respond to you with their recommendations. I am meeting with Sen. Wyden this week in a church in Bend, OR. Called by him but the 'invitation only' format is being accomplished by locals, not Wyden staff. Tho subject is Iraq, I will be insisting on an impeachment discussion. We got his ear due to earlier immigration issue discussions. Hang on, we care about you and your work.

Posted by: A. Henson | August 11, 2007 11:26 AM

Reading through your blog, I’ve noticed how many truly miserable people there are in your audience. It warms one's heart to know just how low you all feel about Bush. I, for one, bask in the warm glow of my schadenfreude in the knowledge of your wretched existences. I will sleep better at night knowing you all live in such stark, paranoid terror. It is no better than you deserve, and it is a condition, after all, of your own making. Remember the little girl with the daisy, Bill? (I do: In my guts, I KNOW you’re nuts!) But, in all sincerity, please do have a nice day, and you might try listening to Rush if you want to have some fun for a change.

Posted by: Esteban | August 11, 2007 11:17 AM

Good show - seems too many are afraid to use the "I" word! I would like to see the Democratic candidates asked in the next debate or forum (a) if they feel this administration has accumulated too much / too many powers unto itself, and if so, (b) what specifically they intend to do to return those powers to the appropriate branches. And I would hope that the questioner would have the courage to both demand a straight answer (what a concept!) and/or highlight their refusal to give one. Thanks for the show and, by the way, thanks for leading me to the book "Invasion of the Party Snatchers". All very enlightening, as usual.

Posted by: Tom Tofelt | August 11, 2007 11:15 AM

The purpose of the opposition party is to OPPOSE. The Democrats are the party of the people. How about doing some opposing - the people need you!

Posted by: Bill Ross | August 11, 2007 11:09 AM

This is the second time I have tried to add to this bog. I think I am being edited out, Mr Free Speech. While impeachment may make a lot of the contributors to this blog happy, what message would it send to our enemies---that the only man in the West who has stood up to the terrorists is thrown out of office by his own people who could not tolerate the conflict needed to overcome those enemies who seek to destroy that happiness.

Posted by: John Sturgeon | August 11, 2007 10:55 AM

Dear Mr Moyers, I watched your program last night and I must say that it seems like you can no longer be embarrased,or you are just so filled with hate for George Bush that you can no longer think clearly.I wound like go through each issue of the "debate" but I don't think it would matter.The real sad part is that the Amercan tax payers have to fund this propaganda.

Posted by: Terry Godshall | August 11, 2007 10:51 AM

I’ve read a number of the articles that people have written about impeachment. What are the chances? Practically NILL! John Nichols spoke about the news media and their absurdity about reporting things that matter, especially the constitution. We get all this wonderful news about miners being trapped in a coal mine, we heard about Katrina, and many other misgivings in our nation. But the truth remains, that the news media does not give an accurate accounting about the Bush administration. Are they simply afraid of what might happen to their so-called news agenda? The Democrats are spineless as is Nancy Pelosi, not coming down on Bush and Chaney for their misgivings. I normally listen to CNN but recently MS-NBC. Their outtake on Bush is somewhat in agreement with what is actually happening in our nation. Too bad others do not take their position. Fox as I leaned during the 2004 election is a big supporter of Bush and Chaney. I haven’t watched Fox news since then and am still wondering if their position still remains the same, who knows? I’ve almost gotten to the point where I would rather watch a baseball game than watch the evening news. Perhaps I’ll...

Posted by: Stephen Zimmett | August 11, 2007 10:50 AM

Thank you for showing this again. It was refreshing (and long overdue) the first time. So what retaliation has Karl Rove, et. al., taken so far? It is encouraging to see some good ideas coming out of the Heritage Foundation. (Is Mr. Fein still employed there?)

Posted by: roger werner | August 11, 2007 10:43 AM

How disappointing that the rebroadcast did not mention that in April Dennis Kucinich introduced a bill to impeach Cheney. H.Res.333 has at least 15 co-sponsors. Read about it here: http://kucinich.house.gov/SpotlightIssues/documents.htm Many of us wrote to Bill Moyers after the first broadcast, bewildered that neither he nor his guests mentioned this action. It seems as though Dennis Kucinich is again being ignored by the media, even the "liberal" media. Yet, he is the only candidate running for president who has had the guts to speak out against this administration and to demand impeachment. So please, if you want impeachment, look up H. Res. 333 and take action. Write to your representatives. Here are websites to help you: http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/cheney http://www.usalone.com/cheney_impeachment.php http://www2.kucinich.us/

Posted by: Stephanie | August 11, 2007 10:28 AM

All I could think last night was: Power corrupts; Absolute Power corrupts absolutely! Bush & Cheney are living proof! The Impeachment programs plus Buying the War plus another which puts it all in order: 911mysteries.com. That is the Science of it. The Why is there, too. The How is explained. The ?, the Who's.It all adds up to Impeachment & can't come too soon for me! The only thing worse than what has happened in and to our Country in the past 7.5 yrs is realizing without Impeachment of Bush & Cheney this can and will only be escalated by some others. As either Nichols or Fain said: "no one voluntarily gives power back." We cannot afford to be silent anymore or wait for others to do it. We are the ones who need to start calling and writing. The difficulty in reaching my Reps from CA, which include Pelosi, is how increasingly difficult they've made it. They're simply not accessible. This makes for disenfranchisement and that makes for the stuff of revolutions when the Voice of the People continues to be ignored as it has since 2000. I'm hopeful people will finally become involved and ACTIVELY protest for Impeachment.

Posted by: Diane Whitmire | August 11, 2007 10:27 AM

One of the comments herein raised the idea of a "hidden agenda". Is there something to this in Iraq? Questions: What was the real purpose of the Iraq war? What does troop withdrawal mean? The question was prompted by the report that, next month, the U.S. "embassy" in Iraq is slated for opening. This, it is reported, consists of 21 large buildings and several smaller ones on 104 acres. It is purported to be six times the size of the U.N. complex in New York. Now, this sounds more like a fortress, a staging ground for something else.

Posted by: POLpursun | August 11, 2007 10:10 AM

Good!!!! The program was repeated. The call for incessant pushing of this issue coming out of the first airing got some traction. Now extremely strong pressure must be focused, yes focused, on Pelosi and Conyers. It is known that Conyers is not the obstacle that Pelosi is. Nevertheless, he has acquiesced to the wishes of Pelosi. Is this fertile ground for added pressure? Impeachment, "Buying the War", NOW --- the income disparity, The EXPOSE program last evening. Next up, with the pressure applied simultaneously from all directions, Pelosi and Conyers, particularly Pelosi. Yes? As was stated categorically last evening, "Pelosi is wrong!" How about everyone from all over the country write Pelosi an e-mail with subject, "I beseech you, fulfill your Constitutional duty, i.e. do your job" and copy his or her congress person. Flood her office! Each day you receive no reply resend it indicating that you will not be ignored. Flood, say, the Washington Post with them also. Keeping the initial document in the sent folder and forwarding it repeatedly should not be too time consuming. Think of it as "an e-mail march." This type of march is very cost effective, does not require too much time and...

Posted by: POLpursun | August 11, 2007 9:49 AM

Congress will not impeach the President or Vice President as long as they keep doing the will of Israel.

Posted by: Anton Grambihler | August 11, 2007 8:43 AM

Please, tell me something I DON’T know. I just finished watching Bill Moyers with the two guests discussing impeachment of (or lack of) Dick Cheney and George W. Bush, and David Brancaccio talking about the broken promise to Americans that hard work will get needs met. I have heard ALL of the stories, and to be honest, feel I have LIVED them all. It feels like the movie Ground Hog’s Day. We are saying the same thing OVER, and OVER, and OVER, and OVER, and OVER! It is 4am here in the Northwest. I am awake because I am so distressed about feeling there is no way to win, no way to improve my life, in spite of having followed all of the rules. I am a middle aged single female who relatively recently completed a Masters degree, but I feel trapped in my low wage job, and today especially, feel threatened that I am walking on eggshells, about to lose my job if I make too many waves (after literally being threatened by the police while doing my job at a Group Home for mentally ill adults). I have no savings, a $1000 401k, and a $10,000 pension through...

Posted by: Naida Lavon | August 11, 2007 8:20 AM

I just saw the rebroadcast of your show and thought it was amazing. In this time of crisis we need to discuss how best to begin to heal our broken country. Impeachment seems to be the key. But as your guests pointed out, not to go after Bush and Cheney, but to reign in the office of the President. No one should be above the law, least of all our leaders. If anything, they should be held to sticter standards. I have always opposed Bush, but in the later months of his reign, I have become truly terrified of what our once great nation has become. Our leaders disregard the wishes of the people they were elected to represent,they operate outside the law with impunity, and the only people who are in a position to do anything about it are too afraid of political suicide to do what is so blatantly right. Impeaching Bush and Cheney is a strong start. However I think that they should also be tried as criminals in the world stage. Too many have suffered at their whim.The time is now. Please visit www.impeacbush.org

Posted by: Peyton Jett | August 11, 2007 8:12 AM

Great show! Thank you. The Green Party has been calling for impeachment for many months. Before you scoff, please remember that David Cobb, the Green candidate for president in 2004, is principally responsible for uncovering the appalling disenfranchisement of many Ohio voters in that election. In 2004, Greens raised more money in support of a recount in Ohio (and for investigative work in New Mexico) than we raised for Cobb's entire national campaign. Alas, we don't yet have a Green in Congress or the impeachment ball might already be rolling.

Posted by: Jane Elioseff | August 11, 2007 8:09 AM

It is very clear in hindsight (missing ballots from 2004, among other items), that we had a coup in this country. And people in other nations look at us and wonder if the current President is going to declare (or create) an emergency and simply NOT EVEN HOLD an election in 2008. Sounds far fetched, but when has the current administration ever cared for anything other than power and keeping Republicans in control? This country has been a plutocracy for some time. But now with erosion of civil liberties it is downright scary. Thank you, Bill Moyers, for being the only journalist on the only station to talk about what is going on in this country.

Posted by: Clem | August 11, 2007 7:04 AM

In answer to the question, should George W. Bush and Richard Cheney be impeached? Clearly, unequivocally, indisputably yes! "The darkest places in Hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality. in times of moral crisis." – Dante Alighieri Thanks, Bill Moyers, and your two guests, Mr. Nichols and Mr. Fein, and PBS, for that invigorating wake up call. It's time to get to work.

Posted by: Noreen | August 11, 2007 6:56 AM

In cases of Impeachment where the President and Vice President are removed at the same time, it seems that the Speaker of the House should not become President.

Posted by: Anton Grambihler | August 11, 2007 6:21 AM

Amending the United States Constitution is a more permanent fix than impeachment. See www.CitizenAmendments.org for a list of the minimum amendments required.

Posted by: Anton Grambihler | August 11, 2007 6:18 AM

In post 911, as in WWII, we have special needs to be able to determine enemies in our open society. when abuse of the special powers is seen then the people will peel away the special powers. Impeachment of the President because you disagree with his politics is absurd. Scooter Libby committed not crime. First, never should an Ambassador's family member be allowed to be in the CIA. The job of the Ambassador to a country is to evaluate the host country and that includes his family. Having a CIA employee in the Ambassador's family endangers our Ambassadors and National Image. So we have wasted a lot of time and energy chasing a non-crime. Global warming can be solved by elimiating half of Television broadcasting, turning off the internet, and having Bill Moyers and the news media stay home.

Posted by: William Hayes | August 11, 2007 5:57 AM

I am very excited by the beacons of light by Moyers', Fein's and Nichols' shining words. However, I am even more hopeful due to the comments left here. If everyone just passed the link of this program of Bill Moyers' Journal to everyone they know in America, then our beloved nation very well may be saved... for the people and by impeachment!

Posted by: yankhadenuf | August 11, 2007 5:45 AM

I am so disheartened by this administration in so many ways. I have never been a Republican, but I did conceed, as did the rest of the country, the day that Bush was claimed to have won the election. Since the day that he took office, there has been a slow, steady decline of the quality of life in the U.S. and I don't think that is just a matter of my opinion. But for the crimes he has committed against this country, the abuse he has committed in the name of freedom, the sheer atrocities he has committed globally in the name of defense are all unjustifiable on any level. Moyer's insight is important, especially right now. It's now or never. America stood by and almost allowed an honorable U.S. President to be dragged through the mud by the media, the Republican Congress and in front of the world. For what?! A small lie. To count the lies that this administration have hurled over the years would take a well oiled statistician and he would need the help of several accountants to do so. Again, while America stands idly by watching corporate big business media and getting disinformation by...

Posted by: christopher | August 11, 2007 5:38 AM

I am for impeachment of bush/cheney, but it bothers me that would leave us with pelosi and she has not proven herself as a leader. I do feel it is time for we the people to hit the streets. It is time for a full scale revolt!!!!

Posted by: nancy lapan | August 11, 2007 5:14 AM

Thank you Bill Moyers for repeating the program on the impeachment of Bush and Cheney with Bruce Fein and John Nichols. The precision of these two gentlemen's argument for impeachment was again a delight to my ears. I have been writing to my congressman and woman as well as my senators. Your programs help me formulate my own arguments against the overreaching and criminal administration of George Bush and Dick Cheney. Please keep more guests of that caliber coming to your Journal! Sincerely, Louise Barr Honolulu, HI

Posted by: Louise Barr | August 11, 2007 4:41 AM

Thank you for raising and championing the impeachment issue on PBS. It's about time a jopurnalist had the courage to start this conversation. You even got me to write to Nancy Pelosi and demand that she take action.

Posted by: joe Ferraro | August 11, 2007 4:39 AM

The US military is the largest single consumer of fossil fuels on earth. Every day Bush demands - and congress authorizes - troops and gas-guzzling war machines to operate in Iraq could be a MONTH lost in solving this country’s enormous contribution to Global Warming and rapid climate change through prodigious and perpetual emissions of Greenhouse gases. Frustrated activists could easily come to believe there is a "hidden agenda" – even among progressives like Bill Moyers - to keep these linked, global emergencies from being discussed as one topic in public debate. What is it Bill…can’t handle the truth?

Posted by: Harold Saive | August 11, 2007 4:10 AM

President Bush, Vice President Cheney, Secretery of State Condoleeza Rice and Department of Justice Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and almost all of Congress should be impeached for the mere fact of having a symbiotic relationship with companies receiving special privileges for government oil contracts in Iraq (such as Halliburton, CACI, Blackwater and others). This major conflict of interest has been scarcely reported on in the mainstream media. James Madison warned us of the perfidious nature of the politicians of this country towards the people they represent and the loyalty they express to their constituents and unto themselves through their own blind ambitions. What makes me sick is that these "chickenhawks" are killing off a generation of patriotic men and women to suit their own needs for power and wealth! In knowing this, I call not only for their impeachment, but for their arrest, along with former President Clinton (giving technology to China,undermining the FBI's efforts to stop companies from doing this and entering this country into NAFTA and the WTO), former secretary of Defense and former CEO of Pharma Donald Rumsfeld (instigating a war on false intelligence) and Paul Wolfowitz (Wolfowitz Doctrine; U.S. Patriot Act), for the crime of treason...

Posted by: John F. Orrell | August 11, 2007 4:09 AM

I missed the first broadcast of this story. Very powerful and articulate. The guest hit home again and again for the reasons that articles of impeachment should be brought against Cheney and Busch. Our democracy is in dire peril, the fundamentals of reviveing the function of the 4rth estate and removing the influence of the corpratacracy is a goal to strive for, but in the moment, right now we must bring this imperial president / Vice President to account.

Posted by: Shawn Hansen | August 11, 2007 3:59 AM

I watched the broadcast all over again tonight and once again felt impotent rage over our inability to get Congress to initiate impeachment proceedings against this despotism masquerading as democracy. I am ashamed to be an American and no longer believe there is any way to affect the so-called political process. Thanks Bill and bless you, but it's a lost cause.

Posted by: AKT | August 11, 2007 3:44 AM

If this Congress fails to protect the Constitution then we as a nation must be extraordinarily careful about who we elect to be President in the coming elections. The only candidate that I have heard speak consistently and intelligently about the sworn duty to uphold, protect, and defend the Constitution is Republican 'long shot' Ron Paul from Texas. While some of his conservative views may not sit well with many Democrats his record and viewpoint regarding upholding the Constitution are clear and indefatigable. In the most recent Republican debate in Iowa, Ron Paul explicitly stated that he will remove the powers that the 'Cheney' administration has assumed unconstitutionally. Not to mention ending the Iraq war as soon as is safely possible for our troops and bringing them home. His voting record as a Constitutionalist in Congress is beyond compare. If these issues are important to you as an American citizen I recommend learning more about Congressman Ron Paul from Texas. If you like what you hear then register as a Republican and vote for him in the primary. As Ron Paul has stated, "The purpose of government is to protect the secrecy and the privacy of all individuals, not the...

Posted by: Rob Balchunas | August 11, 2007 3:44 AM

If this Congress fails to protect the Constitution then we as a nation must be extraordinarily careful about who we elect to be President in the coming elections. The only candidate that I have heard speak consistently and intelligently about the sworn duty to uphold, protect, and defend the Constitution is Republican 'long shot' Ron Paul from Texas. While some of his conservative views may not sit well with many Democrats his record and viewpoint regarding upholding the Constitution are clear and indefatigable. In the most recent Republican debate in Iowa, Ron Paul explicitly stated that he will remove the powers that the 'Cheney' administration has assumed unconstitutionally. Not to mention ending the Iraq war as soon as is safely possible for our troops and bringing them home. His voting record as a Constitutionalist in Congress is beyond compare. If these issues are important to you as an American citizen I recommend learning more about Congressman Ron Paul from Texas. If you like what you hear then register as a Republican and vote for him in the primary. As Ron Paul has stated, "The purpose of government is to protect the secrecy and the privacy of all individuals, not the...

Posted by: Rob Balchunas | August 11, 2007 3:43 AM

Finally ,there is some discussion about conduct and the way that the present Bush regime is running the country. For many years I have thought that it was heading in the direction of a dictatorship and had given up hope for the future of democracy. There is no politician visible today who could compare to any of the Founding Fathers. There is too much money involved for self gain they are not devoted to good of the country , the law or for upholding the principals of right and wrong on a global stage. Impeachment is the only way. We need a government with the intelligence and integrity of Founding Fathers.

Posted by: Barbara Baker | August 11, 2007 3:26 AM

Finally ,there is some discussion about conduct and the way that the present Bush regime is running the country and international affairs. For many years I have thought that the US was heading in the direction of a dictatorship. I feared for the future of democracy. There is no politician visible today who could compare to any of the Founding Fathers. They are spineless and only interested in themselves and personal gain, not for the good of the country, or the law or for upholding the principals of right and wrong on a domestic and global stage. Impeach Bush and Chaney. Form a new government of Founding Fathers and Mothers to sort out the mess. Internationally I hope that the US can work with other democratic countries to do what is right, to ensure a future where truth, compassion, and integrity fundamental in all global issues.

Posted by: Barbara Baker | August 11, 2007 3:17 AM

Our country is being taken away from us. The country I grew up in did not kidnap or torture people or spy on its own citizens. Devilishly clever political operatives like Karl Rove enable the Bush regime to shape and control the entire political conversation. The American people should be outraged, but they are instead pacified by folksy religious and conservative rhetoric. We must pick up the public conversation on what this president and his men are doing and whether it is the right thing for our country. The media has a special responsibility in this country to keep people informed and to help interpret the events being reported. Why is everyone rolling over for George Bush?

Posted by: Mark C. Carbone | August 11, 2007 3:16 AM

Another thing: The first time the budget for Homeland Security came up for vote, Congress debated the amount... and low and behold envelopes with white powder showed up in the mail... Anthrax virus from a government lab... ? And ever since when there is a "problem" and Bush wants his way... New INFO suddenly appears... or suudeen progress is made... sounds like a poorly written TV script... Dan Rather was our bulldog Journalist, and they set him up, and took him out. The week Cheney shot the man in Texas, I told my Husband, I wonder what Bush is hiding, why does he want the media's attention someplace else... Go back and check what bill made it through congress that week... And Bush made a JOKE of it... Gonzoles said it was ok to hold people without trial or even a hearing as long as it wasn't on American soil... If they can do that to Afganis, how long before American people who disagree with him also disappear. That tactic is what makes people compare him to Hitler... G.W. Bush & Homeland Security, Hitler & the SS. And we are head over heels in debt to the Chinese and Lord...

Posted by: Effie Strickland | August 11, 2007 3:10 AM

When Bruce Fein and John Nichols so clearly pointed out that the remedy to our constitutional crisis is for Congress to begin impeachment proceedings, neither you nor they mentioned that someone in Congress has taken this step -- Dennis Kucinich. Last I heard he has 18 co-sponsors to his H. Res. 333 for impeachment. Why didn't you acknowledge this, and why doesn't it happen?

Posted by: Elizabeth Sheppard | August 11, 2007 3:10 AM

It would be nice if each and every member of Congress would watch the program and publicly respond.

Posted by: John A. Dery | August 11, 2007 3:03 AM

I just happened to see the rebroadcast again of this excellent show- still takes my breathe away with how tightly presented the concepts are- and how they confirm all my feelings about theis administration. I have written to my Representative- and told him that promoting this would be the single best thing he will ever be able to do with his position. Thank you so much for shows like this- this is the America I felt we had lost- the open airing of real issues-

Posted by: Tim Dowling | August 11, 2007 3:01 AM

There are a few members of congress that have signed on to Dennis Kucinich's articles of impeachment for Cheney. But if we can't get congress to start the proceedings, there is DIY (do it yourself impeachment) a right we have as citizens. You can find out more, and how to summit your memorial for impeachment at impeachforpeace.org. These memorials support the impeachment of Vice President Dick Cheney. Dennis Kucinich will read all of them all into the congressional record. Citizens DO HAVE THE POWER!! Thank you Bill Moyers. Thank you PBS>

Posted by: marie | August 11, 2007 2:55 AM

Dear Mr. Moyers, Its seems that through the conglomeration of the media by the corporate elites, the mainstream media is unwilling or unable to report the truth about anything that truly hurts the public and benefits our government officials and the corporations. Their avariciousness and penchant towards creating a "New World Order" under a plutocratic society has undermined the fortitude and well-being of the people of this great country by eroding our constitutional rights. Although I believe that you provide a very deep and narrow objective approach (as it needs to be to be factual), it is just a piece of a very large and complex puzzle between the dichotomy of what is true and real and what is processed and fed to us by top White House officials and top corporate executives mostly through the medium we call television. After reading many books and talking to soldiers and people in government and working for the government myself, I have become a great deal more skeptical on what is factual and what is fabricated. I have also become more aware of how our government works and how our money system works and it is very disconcerting. I believe that there...

Posted by: John F. Orrell | August 11, 2007 2:47 AM

Thank you and PBS for bringing this to the attention of PBS Viewers. I wish the show aired when more people would see it. It needs to be aired often. I was told in 8th grade I have an IQ of 168+ Quincy Durant said the same things I have been feeling and saying: Bush was appointed President, not elected in 2000, and the ballots were tampered with in 2004. G.W.Bush is a consumate conman, after all he did get the state of Taxless Texas to pay for a football stadium with a sales tax, that's how he made his millions, and Cheney is his hinchman, we know where his loyalties lie, wonder if Hallowburton has a nice place for him in Dubia?, but Carl Rove is the Puppetmaster. I'm quite sure Rove read, The Politics of Rich & Poor and the other books written by Republican author Kevin Phillips, including the one on the Republicans gaining power. He helped to put a lot of Repelicans (mine, mine, mine), oops I mean Republicans in office. I wonder if Carl has read the latest ones, on the Bush Dynasty and Arrogant Capitol? There is another good book written about how oil...

Posted by: Effie Strickland | August 11, 2007 2:40 AM

Thank you for your show. You always bring us the best interviews and the most timely topics. It is high time that the impeachment process begins. I suspect that there are still some statsmen among our elected leaders. I believe that the fear of not being re-elected or not being popular has probably robbed them of their moral fiber and vision of doing what is best for the nation. Doing there job in other words. When this present administration is finished with the job of dismanteling our democracy it won't leave much for the elected officials do with their time so they had best act fast.

Posted by: Gail Lyons | August 11, 2007 2:38 AM

I have been writing to my congress people and senators for years requesting and demanding impeachment for this administration. I never get a response. I feel it is not only this administration but Congress and the Senate that is in cahoots to destroy the civil rights of all citizens of this republic and I am terrified at the consequences of this attitude for my children and their children, in fact for myself. We need to impeach and it should have been done in 2003.

Posted by: Mary Ann Fahlstrom | August 11, 2007 2:36 AM

Articulate expert guests. This kind of synthesis really needs to be reiterated and "taught" to the public at large, just as Fox pounds the company line into their heads. Great TV, inspiring.

Posted by: steve slattery | August 11, 2007 2:33 AM

welcome back, bill.....so good to see you on the screen and hear some "media" that makes us think....thank you for tonight's show...i hope it inspires others as it has me...it gives me a bit of hope. thank you Granny G. for your comments as well.

Posted by: marie a delloue | August 11, 2007 2:31 AM

Jon and I have appreciated every program you have presented on PBS! The latest program on impeachment was especially provocative and educational. We learned a lot, and it made us not feel quite so alone as we have thought for the last several years that impeachment would be imperative to put a check on this administration. Thank you immensely for your brave broadcast. We are sending your program to Nancy Pelosi and one of our senators from Alaska.

Posted by: Carolyn Nickles | August 11, 2007 2:28 AM

I would ask a few questions about this administration. First question, how do you impeach Cheney when he has denied he is with the executive branch? I am sure everyone recalls the recent changing of Presidential power to VP Cheney so; the question is if he is not in the executive branch how was the transfer done? Does this President assume he has the power to release his power to anyone? If he cannot, then Cheney must be part of the executive branch and should be impeached among other things for not responding to Congress. Supposedly no person or entity is beyond the power of the Constitution. However, in 1951 the Federal 9th Circuit Court ruled that the United Nations Charter superseded our Constitution as the Supreme law of the land. Last question would be; where do we stop or start the removal of those who would rule in place of govern?

Posted by: Robert Taylor | August 11, 2007 2:17 AM

I am heartened by the bulk of these comments affirming the value of this program. What I found most revelatory was the reminder that if the policy is followed of waiting this administration out, the precedents for future executive power have been set. Severe damage will have been done to our constitution. I have heard it said that the dems are afraid of being accused of being soft on terror and security for not taking a stronger stand on the eavesdropping their and folding in front of the president. PLEASE - the mantra should be that the reality is not that they are being soft on terrorism, but rather that they are strong on upholding the constitution. I am so disillusioned by the democratic congress. As one of your guest said, there are no statesmen [sic]today who will call our leaders to task by referencing history, our constitution, and founding values. A tragedy. What will it take to remedy it? I concur that beginning impeachment proceedings would go far towards remediation. At the very least, the attorney general must be taken to task.

Posted by: P.A. Lake | August 11, 2007 1:55 AM

Lee Partide...would you care to point out the misrepresentations and refute what was aired on the program?

Posted by: jack harley | August 11, 2007 1:54 AM

THANK YOU Mr Moyers for re-running this program! Please see if you can arrange to have PBS stations offer it at dinner time and other times when more people can see it - and DO send copies to all members of Congress (you can run a fund-raiser to pay for CDs and postage - you'll have no problem raising the money!). I share others' frustration that you did not mention Rep. Kucinich, a frustration I also felt the first time I viewed the show. That is an unforgivable lapse, given everything this admirable, hard working, honest and brilliant public servant has been doing for We the People for many years! Bravo Dennis, you would make a hero of a president! I also feel frustration that NO ONE in the mainstream media, including you, questions the juxtaposition of all the lies, criminality and monarchical / fascist behavior with the assumption that 9/11 really was an attack by outside "terrorists" - in SPITE of truly incredible amounts of evidence that it was an inside job. Won't you even LOOK at that? It makes ALL of the illegal, unethical and over-reaching behavior make total sense. It was not just a "convenient excuse" to...

Posted by: LMC | August 11, 2007 1:49 AM

What timing. I just signed on with th local Impeachment Committee. I agree wholehearedly that we need to stop this secrecy and lawlessness now, or face a future of "kings" who rule with immunity. If that happens, there goes my protection under the law, and yours. cat

Posted by: catherine | August 11, 2007 1:49 AM

impeachment of bush and cheney will not happen, because a former great and democratic people are now too frightened of 'the terrrrrorists' .... sad but apparently true.

Posted by: n. gordon | August 11, 2007 1:48 AM

As a Canadian, formerly resident of Nova Scotia and now of British Columbia, I have always been able to receive PBS tv and it is my channel of choice for American and international commentary, and entertainment topics often as well. I only saw the tail end of this most recent Impeachment discussion and I find the whole American response to 9-11 such a tragedy for the USA. There must be a "closure" and way out of this problem, somehow. Perhaps an attempted impeachment and the surrounding discussions would help. The question, as a Canadian, I would like to ask is, did no one see the 9-11 attack as a provocation, a terrible invitation to enter into an expensive, draining war with enemies which have for generations used mountain hideouts no one can get at, who can melt away in various guises, who use innocent, and ignorant, civilians as pawns -- the IRA was as bad. Yes, certain tough measures would have had to be taken, but they should have been covert, focussed, swift, un-boastful, grim, and concentrated only on the guilty in the first territories [Afghanistan and Pakistan] of Al Qaeda and not involving Iraq. Iraq posed a separate problem...

Posted by: Janet Doyle | August 11, 2007 1:48 AM

America is failing. The American Dream is turning into a nightmare--not just for Americans, but for all the people of the Earth. I am frightened--and sadly I am glad that I have no children to leave behind to suffer this bitter outcome. I wish a genuine Patriot would arise from the gaggle of American politicians and cry out for a reckoning. Unchecked, this presidency is leaving behind a terrible, chilling, and deadly legacy of precedent. I wish I could be positive--I am not! I wish I could harbor hope--I do not!

Posted by: Robert Schleyer | August 11, 2007 1:48 AM

On July 15, 1968, I took an oath “to support and defend the Constitution of the United States, from all enemies, foreign and domestic…”. I have renewed that oath several times since. Just because I have retired from both military and civil service to the United States, I have not reneged on that oath I took so long ago. Our Constitution is currently under siege by the current regime in power for, if nothing else, failure to follow the Constitution and the rule of law. Unfortunately, the current leaders in our Congress have failed in their duties also to protect and defend the Constitution for expedient political reasons. You need to know this if you want to make a difference for your country, your family and yourself. I hope you will investigate the issues brought forth in this blog so you won’t wake up some morning and wonder where did democracy go in this country. If this does not encourage you to register to vote, then you deserve to lose what little or much you have as the regime continues to whittle away at our rights and privileges as citizens of this country.

Posted by: joey | August 11, 2007 1:48 AM

I believe there is no real way to correct the wrongs of this presidency without impeachment. Bush and Cheny have signaled their intention to flaunt the constitution. We must act for the good of this country. Mr. Moyers, you have once again clarified the discussion. Your guests were outstanding, reasonable, and notably bipartisan. Please post the various ways groups are taking action. Faye Krause

Posted by: Faye Krause | August 11, 2007 1:38 AM

Bush has not been impeached because we would be left with Cheney, which would be even worse. If it is possible to impeach both of them simultaneously, we have a duty to do so NOW. And if they are not impeached, then we are all to blame and we will all - present and future citizens - suffer the far-reaching consequences.

Posted by: Kim Hanke | August 11, 2007 1:36 AM

Thanks for the very interesting program. If the legislative branch fails to do their duty and provide checks and balances of the executive branch, what can we as citizens do to get them to do what they're supposed to do? Writing to our elected officials doesn't seem to work. Writing to newspapers and giving our opinion doesn't seem to work either. What can the average American do to get this country back to where we're supposed to be?.We all need to do something otherwise we'll be living in a police state reminscent of Germany after world war one, when Hitler took control. Are we headed in that direction? If so, then shouldn't we be doing something about it? Isn't our constitution worth fighting for?

Posted by: gene romero | August 11, 2007 1:35 AM

I hope that everyone who believes that Nancy Pelosi needs to be enlightened is sending their emails to her also. The more pressure put on her to begin impeachment hearings could make a difference. She needs to hear over and over what John Nichols and Bruce Fein had to say on this most recent broadcast. I do not agree with Mr. Fein that there isn't a member in Congress that has the conviction and knowledge to speak up. Dennis Kucinich has tried and I do believe there are others. We, the people, need to push them to do it.

Posted by: Kris deLancey | August 11, 2007 1:29 AM

Hi Bill Moyers, Thank you for the excellent discussion on impeachment. This puts into a proper perspective all my frustrations about the administration and what my representatives should be doing about it, with our urging. I have written to Nancy Pelosi and hope she will be spurred by the many messages she must be receiving. It is indeed a scary time when none of our representatives will actually do something about these huge issues which will have so much bearing on our future. Thank you and your guests for waking us up with rational direction for action! Sincerely, Tom Winn

Posted by: Tom Winn | August 11, 2007 1:27 AM

We are asking the Iraqi people and government to put their country before tribal, religious and ethnic differences, to wrok together for the good of their nation, their people, their future. Why aren't we doing the same? The level of political discourse in this nation has become very, very narrow. We are a great nation and deserve better than this administration. Our Constitution starts out, "WE THE PEOPLE,". Fein and Nichol are right: if WE don't demand proper government, WE don't deserve it. Freedom and Responsibility go hand-in-hand; we don't have the right to give it away, to abdicate the responsibility that our founders fought for, that our forebears died for and left to us, who are their posterity. They are right on another point: if we don't do it now, we will be handing a blank check to the next administration. Jefferson, Franklin, Washington, all the signers of the Declaration must be stirring in their graves. I'm writing my congresspersons in the morning. The emails I've sent previously to the White House have had no effect; I'm sure they never reached The Decider.

Posted by: Lynne Burt-Jenkins | August 11, 2007 1:21 AM

This was an absolutely great show. I intend to purchase copies for my local Congressional representatives. I was very disturbed by one omission. I came in about half way through, but I heard no mention of Dennis Kucinich's resolution H.RES.333 calling for the impeachment of Cheney. This resolution now has eighteen co-sponsors, at least five of whom are on the House Judiciary Committee. What more does it take to wake up the Pelosi puppets? Perhaps we should impeach her for dereliction of duty.

Posted by: Kirk Alexander | August 11, 2007 1:21 AM

Thank you for repeating the impeachment program. I watched a second time. I will call Speaker Pelosi and let her know how I feel.

Posted by: Lee Oler | August 11, 2007 1:21 AM

Ken's comment, from July 19, is correct: "The democrats don't have the guts to stop the war or impeach Bush or Cheney." I would add, 'or the brains'.Multiple respondents have also mentioned Dennis Kucinich's personal and articulate commitment to the impeachment of King George the Incompetent and his evil twin, Dick. Congress is about politics, not truth, duty or even the Constitution of the United States. It's sad. I always thought America was about integrity, justice, and all those things a mythical superhero represented: the American way. Now it's become Cheney's way. No wonder most of the world dislikes or flat out hates us.As a christian, I believe, with Joe Biden, that we should tear down Abu Graib and build a hospital and medical education facility on the site, then turn it over to the Iraqi's.It'll never happen, but it would be a great start.This trillion dollar war will only make it worse. Jesus said if someone steals your shirt, offer him your coat. He may need it more than you. If someone nails you to a cross, ask for them to be forgiven. Someone else said people rarely hate you for saving their children. How many clinics and clean...

Posted by: Devesvar | August 11, 2007 1:21 AM

After listening to the impeachment discussion I was encouraged to know there are guardians of our Constitution. Unfortunately like the melting of the ice cap this form of government well be nonexistent in fifty years. The argument that the impeachment process against Nixon, should have continued if only to show us that the checks and balance do work. Our forefather had a dream because they had a passion for freedom. Today freedom has been compromised with fear and worse apathy that is the engine that is melting the dream.

Posted by: David Sicotte | August 11, 2007 1:19 AM

What a great program from one of America's best journalists. Our system of government has been hijacked by megalomaniacs. It is all about finding your niche in the group with the most power and staying there for as long as you can. The reason the Democrats won't take on the administration is precisely because they want what George has. The best way to get it is to lay low and run their most compromised candidate against the Bush administration regardless who the Republican candidate is. God help us.

Posted by: Sonny Aros | August 11, 2007 1:15 AM

I watched your program tonight regarding Impeachment. I belong to a Care2.com network where many are discussing Impeachment. We have called and called and called Pelosi's office in favor of Impeachment. We have written. Some are saying that Bush and Cheney are so full of themselves that they will cancel the 2008 elections and stay on as dictators. Could this really happen? With such a do-nothing Congress it does seem possible. Thank you so much for all your shows. You do America GOOD!

Posted by: Marcel Sneddon | August 11, 2007 1:14 AM

Thank you again for a wonderful and inportant discussion. We must gather together and make it known to Nancy Pelosi that she should show courage and conviction and beging the impeachment process of both Bush & Cheney. Thank you PBS & Bill Moyers for making our Friday evenings educational and provoking. We are your fans and supporters.

Posted by: Lee & Marlene Brand | August 11, 2007 1:12 AM

Thank you again for a wonderful and inportant discussion. We must gather together and make it known to Nancy Pelosi that she should show courage and conviction and beging the impeachment process of both Bush & Cheney. Thank you PBS & Bill Moyers for making our Friday evenings educational and provoking. We are your fans and supporters.

Posted by: Lee & Marlene Brand | August 11, 2007 1:11 AM

Mr. Moyers: Thank you for your program on impeachment with Bruce Fein. While I do not remember the other guest who wrote the book "The Genius of Impeachment", I found the program informative, educational, and inspiring. It was a hopeful sign that there are intellectuals with conviction, strength, and a true sense of patriotism speaking without restraint on the true nature of our malady with regard to an administration with no respect for the rule of law. I only hope there are more people out there that are listening and hear the warning that we must act to remove any President or Vice President who do not follow the rule of law. Clearly, the country is in need of a real leader with courage and conviction and an absolute commitment to uphold the constitution of the United States

Posted by: Peg McGraw | August 11, 2007 1:11 AM

Impeach both the scofflaws! I've written to Pelosi asking her to do her job. To impeach the President/Vice President. To uphold the Constitution of the United States. I have blogged, written emails and talked with people. The fact remains it's politics as usual and we truly have no statesman/woman in Washington D.C., nor do we have congress people who believe they're accountable to the voters, the People of this country. I pray each day that one of these Representatives will have the courage, the guts, to see beyond his/her own nose [next election] and do the right thing! It's called integrity! Our country depends on it! The world depends on it as well. Peace

Posted by: Pamela Maclaren | August 11, 2007 1:11 AM

Dear Mr. Moyers, Thanks again for a wonderful program of 10 August 2007. I was hoping there would be a follow up program and this one exceeded my expectations. Our Congress, our media, our country falls woefully short on knowledge of our Constitution as your guests proved once again. I only hope that you will continue to point out the profound ills that beset our nation. Same oh, shame oh! One only hopes we will find the courage to stand up against this bullying tyranny. Thank you for all you do, Brian Bressler

Posted by: Brian Bressler | August 11, 2007 1:10 AM

Thank you for this enlightening program. I know that this administration has been overstepping it's constitutional authority and I understand how this has harmed our country over the past 6 years+. But, tonight's program shed light on the far reaching damage that Bush and Cheney are establishing for the future of our country. The fact that they are "getting away" with their agenda is beyond frightening. I want to do something to stop them. I no longer want to wait until the upcoming election ( which I hope turns our country around). I now see it is of the utmost importance to hold Bush and Cheney accountable for their abuse of powers. We must not let this administration bend and manipulate powers for the next administration to inherit. Thank you for airing this very important program.

Posted by: nicola tugwell | August 11, 2007 1:08 AM

Let me begin by saying how good it is to see and hear your comments about abuse of power by President Bush and Vice President Cheney. I feel totally disillusioned by what is going on in our country. As though no one knows the difference between right and wrong. Most of television media don't even begin to question the actions of our leadership. We started a war against Saddam because he had Weapons of Mass Destruction. When in fact we knew there were no weapons of mass destruction. That's why we have a staff of agents earning 6 figure salaries. We pay people to know the answers in the CIA and the United Nations and least of all in our congress who evaluate right or wrong in terms of political profitability. So there were no weapons. The reason for war was changed to disposal of a cruel dictator who killed his own people. Then to keep the war effort alive the new reason was to establish a democratic form of government in Iraq. This reason for war is the most vexing. We the people of the United States, who have lost our Democracy over the years and most recently by...

Posted by: Jack | August 11, 2007 1:07 AM

don't see any of my posts- don't like idea of defunding PBS for their liberal trash???

Posted by: russ | August 11, 2007 1:05 AM

After eleven years of study on history and the laws of united States of America (a Republic, not a corporate DEMOCRACY as noted at Article 4, Section 4 of the Federal Constitution)I believe we have already lost our freedom. Congress, ignoring the mandates of the above-mentioned constitution, gave away the People's monetary system. Presently the government national debt amounts to more than all the personal and real property onced held by the People, but is legally held by the government. We the People no longer receive Deeds or Titles for our real or personal property, but warranty deeds and certificates of title. He that holds the deed or title has all legal title. The People do not! In the words of Samuel Adams (Father of the American Revolution): " Without ownership, you have no liberty, without liberty you have no freedom." As for the unjust oil war being waged by Mr. Bush, I quote in the words of Polo, I believe: "When you do wrong in order to defeat evil, you have met the enemy and they are you."

Posted by: Shane Patrick: O'brien | August 11, 2007 1:05 AM

I'm hoping that there will be primaries around the country to unseat the current reprentatives on both sides of the aisle. We need people with courage, who care more about the welfare of the country than there own cushy jobs in the capital. The last person who called me asking for money for the Democratic party was told that I wasn't interested in sending a check until the party got some guts. They could start with the Attorney General and go right up the ladder. I told them I wanted to go on record with my statement and asked to be taken off their call list. Maybe they'll start to get it, whcn the money starts to dry up.

Posted by: Kathy V | August 11, 2007 1:04 AM

What if we offered to change the entire political landscape of the planet by making America act and live up to what we say we want to be, BEFORE we pursue the aspirations of reshaping our neighbors in the world community. If we did it right then our enemies would have so much less support for the plea of having been left out and marginalized. We are the melting pot and you don't get that with unchecked imperial power micro managing the rest of the world by telling them how they got it wrong. The failure of a country or a government system is related to when the people accept being subjugated to the role of silly children, accepting a government as the father land. Impeachment is the necessary cleaning of the slate to reestablish a government by the people. Thank you Mr. Moyers for reminding us of our responsibility.

Posted by: Bruce Beery | August 11, 2007 1:04 AM

Dear Bill & Honored Guests, Thank Goodness you are back on the air in a forum that allows you to truthfully expose and discuss important issues like Impeachment for our Current Constitutional Crisis Created and Exaserbated by the leaders in the current administration. I saw about half of your show tonight and it was Brilliant. THE most intelligent and frank discussion on this subject anywhere on broadcast television media. In response to the call for legislators with strong spinal integrity to call upon the leaders of Congress to begin impeachment procedings, Russ Fiengold, a brilliant and publicly integral US Senator has called for Censoring and Impeaching the president and Vice President. It has been hard to get other legislators to join the cause because they're all too woried about keeping their jobs instead of doing their jobs. Also, our senators Patrick Leahy, Bernie Sanders and Congressman Peter Welch have been strong leaders calling this adminstration to task for it's legal improprieties. (Especially Senator Patrick Leahy, Chair of the Senatorial Judicary Committee.) Regarding the absolute mandate and need for impeachment of Bush & Cheney, I completely agree that the appropriate presidential powers must be restored to proper proportion before the end...

Posted by: B Stevens | August 11, 2007 1:03 AM

I am ready to stand up as a citizen of the United States of America and request of my representatives that they initiate an Impeachment Proceeding against both Bush and Cheney now. I now understand the precedent that has been abused and that it is my duty to require my representatives to stand for my wishes. Thank you for educating us about what is going on.

Posted by: S. R. Weinheimer | August 11, 2007 1:02 AM

Rep. Dennis Kucinich has introduced H Res 333 for impeachment of Bush/Cheney. Why no mention on the Journal?

Posted by: Lynn | August 11, 2007 1:00 AM

FANTASTIC SHOW ON IMPEACHMENT. Thank you for providing a crystal clear voice of reason in the midst of this insanity. The abuse of power in this country has been looking far too similar to Germany in the early 1930s. I pray that you succeed--and that we all join you. Bless you a million times over. Susan Todd

Posted by: Susan Todd | August 11, 2007 1:00 AM

Thank you for some encouraging words! It figures Dennis Kucinich- the peace candidate- is the one who's called for impeachment hearings. The madness has got to stop- Bush & Cheyney are and have been out of control! We need to take our country back. Speaker Pelosi needs to speak up for impeachment!

Posted by: carol | August 11, 2007 12:54 AM

Thank you Bill Moyers for your heroic efforts to teach us, the public, that we must be the responsible citizens that any democracy needs in order to function. If we continue to be children led by a government that treats us as such, we will not deserve to enjoy the liberty that so many have given their lives to protect. Keep up the great work you are doing, Mr. Moyers, in bringing reason and thoughtfulness to the public discourse we so sorely need .

Posted by: betsy fenhagen | August 11, 2007 12:53 AM

Your show was an eye-opener, providing the truth of Bush's and Cheney's fracturing of our Constitution's laws and principles. Having a solid, genuine conservative Republican and constitutional expert like Bruce Fein speak so clearly about the urgent need for impeachment, agreeing with John Nichols, a liberal Democratic writer, gave great credibility to the show. I want to get multiple copies of the DVD so I can show my well-meaning, Bush-supporting friends what the issues really are. They may like him because they think he is personable and a good Christian, but seeing the DVD will help them to understand what is truly at stake. I hope that will change many views. Keep it up, Bill Moyers.

Posted by: Carol | August 11, 2007 12:52 AM

I am so glad I tuned in to this discussion of impeachment of Bush and Cheney. So much of the time I feel like the only one who is incredibly frustrated with this administration - no one seems to care about what Bush is doing, or at least no one will speak seriously about taking measures to stop him. I can't count the number of times I have shouted at the TV when Bush is being his arrogant self "You are not king!!" Thank you for airing this show again, and I want to hear more talk of about IMPEACHMENT.

Posted by: CM | August 11, 2007 12:49 AM

Regarding impeachment: if Congress is waiting for a written invitation from "we the people," I'd be happy to be one of the folks to sign at the bottom. I will not live in fear. THAT is terrorism. I love my country and I hate to see it so badly misrepresented. Lisa Nordeen-Nelson, Ventura, CA

Posted by: Lisa Nelson | August 11, 2007 12:48 AM

Regarding impeachment: if Congress is waiting for a written invitation from "we the people," I'd be happy to be one of the folks to sign at the bottom. I will not live in fear. THAT is terrorism. I love my country and I hate to see it so badly misrepresented. Lisa Nordeen-Nelson, Ventura, CA

Posted by: Lisa Nelson | August 11, 2007 12:46 AM

The First Lady "The Constitution of the United States" is been hurt left and right by the Bush Administration---he took us into a war that was made up of lies and distortions--he denies The Congress of The United States of America documents required in due process of law---I mean, this Lady Constitution is being raped by this administration and the sad part of it---no one is doing anything about it to protect her. The Founding Fathers are turning over in their tombs---and the reason for all this?? president´s preferential treatment in bringing about his duties--I just don´t get it.

Posted by: Manny Ortiz | August 11, 2007 12:44 AM

I watched this interview for a second time. This time I was aware that we do have and have had a House member who does honor and know the constitution is very aware of the vision of the founding fathers, has stood up and called for impeachment of the Vice President, voted not to fund the war, voted not to invade Iraq, exposed that one of the “benchmarks” for the Iraqi government that is being pushed by the administration and the congress is to privatize their oil turning 80% of their undeveloped oil fields over to foreign investment out of their power and administration. The invasion and occupation is pressure on this Iraqi government to give over their wealth in oil resources. This congressman is Dennis Kucinich, one of the democratic presidential candidates. And we hear very little about him. The press have become nothing more than cheerleaders. Why aren’t we hearing from the press about other campaigns besides Hilary and Obama. I am puzzled that Bruce Fein and John Nichols or for that matter Bill Moyers were not aware of Dennis Kucinich’s stand made in congress and publicly in every debate and beyond. They acted like there was no...

Posted by: Anna Marchant | August 11, 2007 12:42 AM

this program will fit right in with the Iowa state fair cow chip throwing comp & toilet races-all friends money well spent.

Posted by: russ | August 11, 2007 12:41 AM

Frustation is what I feel at the democratic party . The stance taken by Nancy Polosi is insane and she is disregarding the fact she too was elected and NOT appointed by the President . We must uphold our constitution or we do NOT have anything to hold on to in this country. What is the the procedure to remove the Speaker of the House and Senate?

Posted by: Profull Gupta | August 11, 2007 12:38 AM

After the initial broadcast, I wrote not only Pelosi, but my two senators and congressman to consider hearings on impeachment of the president and vice president. I wrote my local newspaper, I wrote blogs, I wrote the networks. Now, I believe that if enough of us put pressure on our representatives in congress, they will have to eventually act! Time is running out, people. We need to do it now! They have been afraid to act before because they are afraid of losing their jobs and though I know this is a somewhat jaded point of view, I agree with Bruce Fein, that there are few people in either chamber of the legislature who have the vision or the integrity to convince their colleagues to begin impeachment proceedings. And so, it is up to us! We need to assure them that it is the right thing to do and that, after all, they work for us -- we the people DO have the power, enough to make it happen. Write to Speaker Pelosi and your representatives now! Do it now!

Posted by: S. McGhee | August 11, 2007 12:38 AM

While impeachment proceedings might pacify your guests, what message would it send to our enemies---that the only man in the West to stand up to them was thrown out of office by a people who could not tolerate trying to win a war with them????

Posted by: John Sturgeon | August 11, 2007 12:38 AM

Dear Mr. Moyers, Having respected YOU for years, it was against my instincts to listen to your 'Impeachment' program tonight. Further, I've been a diehard Republican since I could vote. I'm now 60 years old. In addition, I've been a lawyer for over a third of a century and therefore inclined to initially 'follow' Attorney Bruce Fein in his very legal and intellectual analysis of this crucial matter. He was indeed excellent. John Nichols as a 'media person' was initially discounted by my evaluation. I WAS WRONG !! Even given my bias against 'media', John Nichols clearly carried the day. Nichols' erudite and extensive knowledge of our Founding Fathers grave concerns about executive power abuses was exquisite, to say the least. Even as impressed as I indeed became by Nichols presentation, his real message was distress over the LACK of outrage over the abuse of the constitutional respect for the 'Rule of Law' in our great country !! Nichols was correct: It's not about 'King George' (or Cheney), it's about our nation's commitment to respect for the concept that "NO person is above the law." The programs 'balance' via criticism of both Clinton's escape from impeachment and Pelosi's abdication of...

Posted by: Michael C. Schaefer | August 11, 2007 12:38 AM

Thank you Bill Moyers for the most knowledgable and intellectually sound discussion I have heard yet. Bruce Fein and John Nichols have finally brought the topic into focus with clarity and intelligent good sense. It's about what we stand for as a society, not partisan politics, not the personalities. Impeachment is the prosecution of the law, implemented to remove those who abuse power, defy the Constitution, and demean the values it espouses. Not to punish those we don't like, but to prevent them from doing any more damage. Bush and Cheney do not have "divine" right. Impeachment is necessary for the good of the country. Impeach them first, prosecute them in court for their crimes afterwards. When are we all going to start acting like responsible citizens instead of sheeplike "subjects", too busy consuming mindless garbage to notice the erosion of our civil liberties? When will we be ready to act for the higher good. Wake up everyone -- time is running out. Learn the lessons of history. Tell Congress to do their job!

Posted by: Jacki Apple | August 11, 2007 12:35 AM

I have watched the John Nichols and Bruce Fein discussion twice now. Could you run it again? Could you run it on a larger network to educate more people in the U.S. Perhaps CSPAN would run it. However, I feel hopeless about educating many Americans who are watching American Idol instead of the news. But thank you for trying to inform some of us who are willing to have the smog wiped from the windows of our eyes.

Posted by: Mary Hafner | August 11, 2007 12:34 AM

Many people knew this was coming before Bush was elected. We were silenced by fear then. I personally felt dread. Elections stolen, our country is being bankrupted... What I want to know is what can we (as individual citizens) do now? What organizations are rallying on this issue and gathering the people?

Posted by: Renee | August 11, 2007 12:32 AM

The anecdote about Tip O'Neill's wanting to spare the country any more suffering after the Watergate scandal contrasts sharply with the mean spiritedness of today's Republican leaders--and of many of their followers. Tonight's broadcast makes me wish someone could corner Speaker Pelosi and have her watch, if nothing else, at least the last 15 minutes. She and her colleagues have an opportunity to go down in the history books as the saviours of our democracy and in so doing reverse the bad name democracy now has in many parts of the world due to the actions of our current President. Mona Bee Valdosta, GA

Posted by: Mona Bee | August 11, 2007 12:31 AM

Bruce Fein and John Nichols have stated the case for impeachment in the best way I've ever witnessed. How do I join the members of the American public who would endorse such a step?

Posted by: Eugenia Parry | August 11, 2007 12:29 AM

its clearly time to initiate impeachment proceedings against the bush/cheney regime. it's also congress' job to begin the process. speaker Pelosi, wake up! do your job and protect the constitution, rather than protecting your political career. moyers is to be congratulated for finally lhaving a discussion that reflects a national problem rather the parochial/peckerwood concerns that his Texas background usually mandates.

Posted by: richard birmele | August 11, 2007 12:28 AM

Impeach! Bush AND Cheney.

Posted by: Wena Dows | August 11, 2007 12:28 AM

We are facing a constitutional crisis of historic proportions and pbs is the only one sounding the alarm. I thank you, Bill Moyers, and your guests but I wonder if it's enough. Due to Mr. Fein's "congress of invertebrates" we have no one who will stand. Barry Goldwater advised Nixon to resign but we have no one of Barry Goldwater's stature to come forth. I agree with every word that was said tonight and I fear for our nation.

Posted by: Clint Brooks | August 11, 2007 12:27 AM

Great program. Let every student (ie. citizen) of this great constitution witness this discussion and continue it. Pelosi, do your duty.

Posted by: Bill Boyson | August 11, 2007 12:27 AM

After watching the Bill Moyers Journal this evening, I also feel Impeachment of the Bush/Cheney Administration is a must. Pelosi must do her job and get the impeachment process moving toward bringing the Bush/Cheney Administration before congress. It's time congress gets a backbone and stand up for whats right for America and the people.

Posted by: Jerry Ratterree | August 11, 2007 12:26 AM

It seems to me an equally compelling argument can be made to show that congress has slowly diminished the power of the presidency for the last half century. This is the stated belief of the vice president and others, and would explain the recent efforts to bolster executive powers. Whether or not this position is correct, it participates in a power struggle between the two branches of government that has persisted throughout the whole of American history. To assume this is a new struggle for power, unique to this presidency, denies the continual tension that is iherent in the structure of the constitution, and betrays a bias that is not disimilar to the claimed Republican bias which lead to the impeachment of president Clinton. The balance of powers in government is a dynamic and often violent affair. Add a little terrorism and foreign war and we find we are in extraordinary times. Personally, in such times, I'll take a strong president over a strong congress. When the war is over, as in all American wars of the past, the powers will shift again. There is nothing new to our current situation other than the belief in the media that we...

Posted by: Jon Hughes | August 11, 2007 12:23 AM

Re the Bill Moyers interview w/Bruce Fein and John Nicols. I am a firm believer in the wisdom of the Constitution and fear that our Congress is so chicken sh-- that the impreachment proceedings will not happen. I will be writing to my Congresswoman, Lois Capps, CA, to encourage her to stand of for the big fight that I know it will be if we take on the current Pres and VP. I've always thought Bush is an idiot and elected crookedly, but Chaney is downright scarey (esp w/a gun?!) YIKES! Anyway, its good not be be alone in this matter.

Posted by: Penelope Slade` | August 11, 2007 12:22 AM

Many thanks for yet another important program. I must agree, however, with an earlier commentator that the principled work of Congressman Dennis Kucinich was slighted when an entire hour went by without mention of his impeachment bill, which has begun to gain cosponsors. We have an opportunity and a duty to press our Representatives to sign on.

Posted by: Jerry Markatos | August 11, 2007 12:22 AM

"Is there not one person in the House who will place their country before politics-as-usual?" Of course there is, and he's running for President. His name is Dr. Ron Paul, the Congressman for Texas

Posted by: Craig Thomas | August 11, 2007 12:20 AM

I was in nyc on 911 and saw the south tower hit by the plane. I saw alot of what happened that day and the weeks and months after in nyc. If anyone would want to know fear that was a time i was the most afraid in my life. But now i see how this idiot lying president and facist vp hav been lying about 911 and the war in iraq. They are trampling on the constitution. What is next? is it iran? i can see all of the same lying crap happening again. I know i want to support the green party because the democratic leadership is inept and is doing nothing about impeaching this president. Bush and Cheney need to be impeached. they are dangerous to the USA and the world.

Posted by: matthew loughran | August 11, 2007 12:19 AM

It seems to me an equally compelling argument can be made to show that congress has slowly diminished the power of the presidency for the last half century. This is the stated belief of the vice president and others, and would explain the recent efforts to bolster executive powers. Whether or not this position is correct, it participates in a power struggle between the two branches of government that has persisted throughout the whole of American history. To assume this is a new struggle for power, unique to this presidency, denies the continual tension that is iherent in the structure of the constitution, and betrays a bias that is not disimilar to the claimed Republican bias which lead to the impeachment of president Clinton. The balance of powers in government is a dynamic and often violent affair. Add a little terrorism and foreign war and we find we are in extraordinary times. Personally, in such times, I'll take a strong president over a strong congress. When the war is over, as in all American wars of the past, the powers will shift again. There is nothing new to our current situation other than the belief in the media that we...

Posted by: Jon Hughes | August 11, 2007 12:19 AM

I just finished hearing the impeachment conversation again with Bruce Fein and John Nichols. It just makes me feel a little hopeful that others are feeling and thinking many of the same thoughts that I have been lo these past several years. The time is well past due for all of us out here who are still conscious to take whatever steps we as individuals can to stop the misuse of authority that has torn at the fabric of this nation's conscience and well-being. There will be a march on Washington on September 15th (just a few weeks now), for all of us to come to stand together and insist that our Congressmembers listen to us. I hope that you can join me!

Posted by: Betsy Morrow | August 11, 2007 12:18 AM

At last, Bill Moyers, Bruce Fein, and John Nichols are showing the courage to talk impeachment for Bush & Cheney when the Congress won't. With the exception of my Congressman, Henry Waxman, my Senators & the Speaker are not joining this dialog in public places and should!

Posted by: Richard Jewett | August 11, 2007 12:18 AM

Thank you, Bill Moyers, for your responsible coverage of the "situation" in OUR White House. I also thank Fein and Nichols for their responsible coverage and reporting of the "situation." Having said that, I must disagree on one point (made by Fein). Fein said that if Bush and/or Cheney repent when impeachment proceedings begin then they (the proceedings)should be stopped. NO!!! Stopping the proceedings would be counter-productive, at best. Once begun, impeachment MUST be followed through to completion. Take the following analogy: A child engages in unacceptable behavior and does it so often that punishment must be undertaken by the parents. To the extent that the parents threaten punishment but relent at the sound of the child's apology nothing is learned, and so nothing is derived from the entire experience. To the extent that you don't like that analogy, I offer the following: have not Bush and Cheney lied limitlessly throughout their hideous administration? Why should we believe that a representation of "repentence" from either of them would be truthful or honest? Further, how would any statement of "repentence" by them help us, in fact? Then, too, what would that say to our children except that (again) all one has...

Posted by: H.L. Haynes | August 11, 2007 12:18 AM

Thank you for re-running the Fine-Nicholas segment on the neeed for impeachment of the President and Vice President. Is there not one person in the