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Every election year there are a few words and phrases that stick. "lockbox" or "fuzzy math," anyone? After the last presidential debate, clearly this year's is Joe the Plumber.


The business owner from Toledo, Ohio who questioned Barack Obama about his proposed tax on small businesses at a rally on Sunday was mentioned 26 times during Wednesday's debate, and made the morning show rounds on Thursday.


LA Times' Top of the Ticket blog has the full conversation with the real Joe the Plumber.


Of course, this guy in Amarillo, Texas, might beg to differ.


But what does "Joe the Plumber" really represent?


He's being pegged as the "perfect representative of everyman," but NPR's Chris Arnold notes in this podcast that Joe is a little above the average citizen's pay grade. Joe the Plumber "maybe isn't the best example if he's supposed to be representative of Joe America," Arnold notes, since he's making over $250,000 per year with his business.


So maybe Joe the Plumber is only a distant cousin of Joe Six-Pack. That said, the Plumbers Union is officially endorsing Obama.










9 Comments

Yeah, what caught my attention was that Joe the Plumber is debating about buying his job. I know most Americans like to think of themselves as middle class, however, I wonder how many American's can bowl in same league as Joe the Plumber


AL the Barber said:

These comments about Joe the Plummer are stupid the fact is that most Americans want to be rich, hopefully most want to work to get there, others wnat to steal and others think that hand outs are fine, The Obama organization believes that its all right to give my blood sweat and tears to anyone else, And thta its patriotic to pay taxes, BS, its not patriotic to give our hard earned dollars to a goverment thats spends our money foolishly and to those who havent worked for it PERIOD.

No give us crap that we should do the AMERICAN thing an just open our wallets up and give it to people who dont work, everyone has an opportunity in this country to make the most of themselves, and Im sick and tired of hearing whinning from those who beleive entitlements are their second names,

This constant belief that we have to take care of everyone, when they dont do anything to take care of themselves will kill this country, what ever happened to self responsibility.

The problem with Obama besides hiding his history, is he takes no repsonsibility for anything bad in his life, and he is selling the Big brother can take care of you philosophy to the masses, this attitude will eventually bankrupt this country, havent we jsut learned, that you cant give everthing away and not expect consequences, this housing cirsises is an byproduct of cheap and easy money to everyone, and we have the Liberal Dems in congress to thank, if we elect Obama there will not be any checks and balances, Nancy Harry Reid and Charlies the tax dodger Rangel will ride all over us with help from Obama.

wake up America, before our chickens come home to rost.


AL the Barber said:

These comments about Joe the Plummer are stupid the fact is that most Americans want to be rich, hopefully most want to work to get there, others want to steal and others think that hand outs are fine,

The Obama organization believes that its all right to give my blood sweat and tears to everyone And that its Patriotic to pay taxes, NO its not Patriotic to waste my money or anyones, its not Patriotic to give our hard earned dollars to a goverment thats spends our money foolishly and to give it to those who havent worked for it PERIOD.

Now we are getting the BS pitch that we should do the AMERICAN thing an just open our wallets up and give it to people who dont work, thats Crap, The only thing that this goverment should provide is safety and the opportunity to be the best I can, We should all have personal responsibility and help those who truely need help, not those who havent worked hard, this isnt the OLD USSR, and we all know how that experiment failed.

Im sick and tired of hearing whinning from those who beleive entitlements are their second names,

This constant belief that we have to take care of everyone, when they dont do anything to take care of themselves will kill this country, what ever happened to self responsibility.

The problem with Obama besides hiding his history, is he takes no repsonsibility for anything bad in his life, and he is selling the masses the philospohy under the pretense that Big brother can take care of you.

Thiss attitude will eventually bankrupt this country, havent we just learned, that you cant give everthing away and not expect consequences, this housing mess is an byproduct of cheap and easy money to everyone, and we have the Liberal Dems in congress to thank,

If we elect Obama there will not be any checks and balances, Nancy Harry Reid and Charlies "the tax dodger" Rangel will ride all over us with help from Obama.


It doesnt matter that Obama is black white green or blue, its its beleiefs that scare me, its his philosphy that Big Brother should take care of you, its his belief in class warefare, he lieves by two sets of rules, he didnt even give 5% to charity last year, and he made almost 1 million dollars, He truely is Elmer Gantry, we should be afraid of his ethics, his beleifs, his poliitcs, but not his color, on that who cares, America is ready for a black man, a woman, hell anyone, but not based on their Liberal socialistic tendencies.

To quote Obama's most influential socialist, teacher, wake up America, before our chickens come home to rost.


Voice in the Desert said:

Laura -

Your comments are misleading, almost a page out of the Obama talking points. It sounds great to say Joe "maybe isn't the best example if he's supposed to be representative of Joe America" however, Joe the Plumber was NOT supposed to represent Joe America. Did you get that? He was NEVER supposed to represent Joe America! That particular segment of the debate was focused on small business owners, not on the average worker. Joe the plumber is actually a very good example of the average small business owner and he is likely to be negatively impacted by Obama's reckless tax policy. Additionally, of the $250,000 in income Joe makes, how much of that goes to supplies? How much to paying for the work truck? How much for the gas that he uses to get from one customer to the next? How about the cost of his office? Obama would still tax the guy as though he is wealthy, and that is a very dangerous thing to do indeed.

On a separate note - why would we want to raise anyone's taxes right now? Please explain the math to me. Obama repeatedly invoked the name of Exxon as a scare tactic to those of us that are pinched at the pump. He feels that McCain's tax policy would help the evil Exxon empire. Guess what, he's right. Guess what else? If Exxon pays less in tax, you pay less at the pumps. If Exxon pays more in tax, you pay more at the pumps. Does anyone REALLY believe that if "Big Business" pays more in tax, it will result in a net benefit for the average American? Big Businesses are the foundation of the U.S. economy, and if we increase corporate tax rates, the cost of American goods will increase, consumers (that's you and me) will pay more for goods and services, and ultimately, a percentage of those same businesses will ship operations to other countries with more favorable tax structures, further adding to the rot of the American economy.

Why would anyone want to raise taxes???

P.S. -The democratic governor of Michigan (Jennifer Granholm) took office and declared that raising taxes would result in more money with which to fund social programs and boost the Michigan economy. Under her reign, Michigan has seen their economy steadily plummit (long before the rest of the U.S. began experiencing recession). MI businesses increased their prices, MI consumers bought less, and the MI government collected LESS tax. How could this be? They raised taxes...shouldn't that result in more money for the government to spend? If less goods are produced and purchased, there will be less revenue to tax. If taxes are raised, less goods will be produced and purchased in a tight economy. Ignore the rhetoric and look at the facts...


Wendy said:

I have yet to find information on Obama's"tickle up" economic policy. At first glance it sounds good but it seems illogical to me. How do wage earners create jobs?


Joe from Mississippi said:

Guess you guys didn't pay attention to Joe's comments. He is CONSIDERING buying into a plumbing company. If he does, he estimates the company could make $250,000. Leave the guy alone. He's just trying to make a better life for he and his son. You need to stop watching and listening to all the media pundits and tune into FoxNews for a more realistic picture of life!


Carl from Louisiana said:

Agree with Joe from Mississippi and Wendy. Also, saw the video interview with Professor Milller and disagree with his assertions that the party (REP) are disinfrancising (sp) voters on many levels. He alluded to the election of 2000 as being stolen. I disagree. I voted in Florida by absentee ballot for 15 years, that used the punchcard for selecting my choices and never had a problem. I was dumbfounded that that election was held up because the officials who originally set up that system in the affected counties (DEM) believed they could review the ballots to determine the "intent" of the voter from those ballots. Finally, professor Miller makes a lot of assertions about the voting irregularities, but only offered general observations without specifics, but kept referring to the Republican side. I would like to point out that ACORN, the origanization he was directly praising, is under investigation for voter fraud in connection with this election. That interview was rather biased, in my opinion.


f,america said:

Be realistic. The economy is set up so that there HAS to be lower paid to support the overpaid. Taking advantage of the underpaid and exploiting people is what a fractional monetary economy is based upon.
Ignorance is no excuse, nor' is hating those below you. Take the time to wonder why people are in the place they are in, rather than think they are thieves or less than yourself. People are still people, and behaviour is mainly environmental. Don't be a fool; the fact that ACORN is under investigation over something that could threaten the republican system isn't a surprise. The supposed voter fraud is a simple fact of every day voter fraud which is filtered every day.

Believing the crap that you are being force-fed is only a tribute to the society that is failing us right now. YOU are the reason society cannot move forward. Enjoy your reign of power believing you are working harder, deserving more than others. Burn in the hell you believe in. OH wait, you adjust your own beliefs to allow your devious behaviour.. Stop poisoning the world, let people live. We have the resources to feed everyone on earth, yet people die and yet rednecks say they deserve to die because they didn't work hard enough.

Problem with the world located, bleep, bleep, stubborn people who have no idea what is going on around them and just make passing commentary based upon what they have believed for their entire lives because they'd commit suicide if they actually realized the pain they've caused to others. Enjoy.


steve spelling said:

If Obama wins the Presidency, the Democratic Party, the Obama Campaign & the Democratic Media will have perpetrated the biggest fraud in the history of U.S. elections. I've never seen such a one sided media, shilling, covering up for, and protecting "the one".


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