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#1

Why can’t they geld Cloud and other males to control breeding and turn them back out to live their lives.I’m sure we can raise enough $$ to accomplish this and save the wild herds from extinction and from multiplying.

#2

In response to Desiree Barbazon’s post, 7-2-08…If they geld or castrate Cloud and the other males to control breeding this will lead to extinction. I Mustangs are part of are national heritage and a real treasure and should be treated as such. I don’t think she has a clue as to what she’s just stated!

#3

As a lover of God’s creations, wild mustangs, let’s save Cloud and the herd. Let’s be good stewards of the earth and preserve this national heritage.

#4

I’ve always thought the wild horses should run free and have always admired their beauty, grace and spirit. We should do whatever we can to give them what they need to survive.

#5

These constituents are of the worst quality I have ever seen.
They are Roman nosed, pig eyed, short necked (my God, their heads are longer than their necks), low neck set, apple butted, short croup, low tail set junk that should all be shot! Craaaaaaap!

I wish I could attach a photo of what a proper constituent is suppose to look like. There is no comparison. The only reason anyone would think these horses are valuable is 1.) ignorance, 2.) Because they are roaming being wild, 3.) Some unknown reason I haven’t thought of.

The bottom line is they are not good examples of what a horse should look like. Go study conformation and breeding before gasping with awe.

#6

Cloud is NOT WHITE - he’s a rare pale shade of palomino known as CREMELLO. In the closeups you can clearly see the white marking of his face, while his body color is a few shades darker.

#7

Tim, you are obviously a horse snob of gigantic proportions. “Shot” That’s pretty strong language from someone who must think of himself as a horse lover - true horse lovers admire and respect all breeds and even ‘wild’ horses for who they are. Go back to your show ring of small boned, head and necks in the air, tails over their backs horses and quit watching PBS! As far as wild horses go - these looked pretty darned good.

#8

Re: Tim’s comments 07/06/2008 … sounds like you are a believer of breeding the ‘Master Race’ … “should all be shot”?? Shades of the horrors of WWII. You are wound up too tight if you can’t find the beauty in these beautiful animals.

You are one scary ‘human’ being (i use the term loosely)!

#9

While a wonderful show on wildlife and freedom.

#10

I’m a believer that believers in “breeding” to the extent that there is no room for the true, wild breeds, are themselves throwbacks … and should be breed out of the human population. In the meanwhile, saving wilderness trumps all the inbreed, overbred species perpetuated by the pinhead purists.

#11

I have worked with horse for years and they’re indomitable spirits never cease to amaze me. They’re undying passion for purpose and love for all things will forever remain imprinted on my heart. They are an incredible gift from God; here only to make our journey’s full of joy. I pray anyone watching this wonderful series will come to expereince the horse as he was meant to be experienced. Thereby,understanding our responsibility to God in how to care for our gifts. Thank you Ginger Katherns for honoring them!

#12

I am not a hunter nor a country boy, strickly a city boy for 50 years and I was fortunate to have lived in Montana 2 years in the 70s while in the Armed Forces. I had the wonderful opportunity to go off roading on my motorbike many times, in one of thos occasions we came accross a band of wild horses, about 15 of them. The term wild is no joke for whatever reason they came after us. One of our riders was bitten by a horse and almost knocked him off the motorbike. I have shear respect for the speed and the aggresiveness these horses displayed. I am not a “horse” person but I do believe that they are a greeat part of out heritage. It is important to keep in mind that without horses we would not have the rich western culture of the past 150 years, that without these animals the lands west of the Mississippi would have taken much longer to settle. I hope that young Americans and “new” Americans understand that the future of this issue and other similar issues concerning wildlife has to be kept on the forefront of education.

Oh yes, Tim is you know nothing.

#13

These horses are not native.
Why should they be allowed to breed?

#14

No, the horses aren’t native. However, they’ve been here for hundreds of yrs. To not see the beauty in them is ridiculous! Watch Cloud when he’s running. His mane and tail flowing, the muscles moving. Absolutely beautiful. Whether or you believe in God or some other supreme being, we are to take care of the animals. They let Cloud go because of his unusual color, to breed with a mare(s) to see his offspring. Surely, adoption and the laws of nature, their numbers could be kept intact. (The thunderstorm took several horses out during the show. Some froze during the winter.) The area they roam in is so remote, at least in Cloud’s case. I think it would be a terrible loss to not have them here any more. I LOVE horses, altho I can’t afford to have one. I live in huge horse country here in north central FL - ALL types of breeds including horses brought in from out west for adoption. Tim’s not right and neither is Mike. People are known by the way they treat animals.

#15

They are beautiful animals. That is not in dispute
Kudzu vine and Purple Loosestrife are beautiful also.
And Nutria are SO cute.
But, we are destroying what is unique by allowing this constant stream of alien invaders to supplant our native species.

#16

I love Mustangs. I think they should be allowed to roam free and live wild.

#17

I believe humans should mind their own business. Our government needs to figure out how to take care of the people first, before they decided how to take care of wild horses or other animals. The animals seem to do much better than we humans. It’s called having a heart and soul.

#18

RE:Tim: yikes! What do YOU look like? These animals are likely much kinder than you could ever become, based on your remarks.
RE: Mike: Are you a native here? Have you bred? And if so, what do YOUR children look like. I wouldn’t want to see you in person. You sound quite scary!

What have these animals done to either or both of you that you are so full of venom?

#19

The simple fact is that Tim has a very valid point, and I will add to. Wild horses were introduced to Northern America. They are feral. They do not belong here in the wild. There is not enough land, not enough food, not enough water, and not enough resources for an introduced species that is suffering from years and years of inbreeding.
Shot? Well, would you rather have them shot or starve to death?

#20

Tim, you are narrow minded and clearly evil and apparently mentally ill (i.e., in the category of Hitler and a master race).
Mike, you are just plain ignorant. I like what Dina says to you, “Have you bred?” And if so, what gives you the right? Unless you are an American Indian, you are not native. Why should you breed? And what gives you the right to determine what other species breed?

#21

07/07/2008 :: 11:30:15 PM
Dina Says:

RE: Mike: Are you a native here? Have you bred? And if so, what do YOUR children look like. I wouldn’t want to see you in person. You sound quite scary!
To Dina:
I am native and have not bred. It is my way of giving back to the planet.

What have these animals done to either or both of you that you are so full of venom?
To Dina:
They have done nothing.They are victims of human meddling and manipulation. There is no venom. Only a realistic and pratical viewpoin concerning our ever dwindleing native speices.
-Mike

#22

Who among us has the right to say who lives and who dies? Tim, you must be in the horse business for money only. If you own horses, you have learned nothing from them and you have flunked your test here on Earth!

#23

This country wouldn’t be what it is today without the contribution these hourses have made in its history.

#24

All horses came to this country one way or another the wild horses have survived for hundreds of years. As for inbreeding by looking at them I don’t see the effects they are a beautiful animal in the fact that they are free to roam. I beleive that in a way it is called selective breeding because only the strongest and wisest stallions have mares.

#25

It seems as though Tim is comparing these wild mustangs to quality show horses–REALITY CHECK!! These AREN’T show-quality horses! They are not thoroughbreds, nor should they be compared as such. Thoroughbreds are ungainly, emaciated, brittle-boned horses who collapse when too much weight is applied. Wild horses are the exact opposite–They are magnificent creatures who yes, inter-breed,(*gasp*) not for beauty but for the SURVIVAL of the species. Why is that any worse than mix-breed dogs, cats, or humans?
And if they can survive in this brutal world we humans have created for them, I’d say they’re doing rather well. So how dare you say they should all be murdered!! SHAME on you.

#26

Yes I too think that Gelding the stallions is better then killing the wil horses. they can do around ups, geld most of the stallions they have then let them go, and also I no they have a number of wild horses in a very small paddock and are thinking of killing them all since they don’t have enough money to feed them. But what i think is they should let them go, and no there may not be enough food, since there numbers would be greatter so some may die but from natual causes. & Mustanges are none to live in Harsh conditions. SO they may even be able to live though the no food, or find something else to eat. we have to stop this soon though, contact th BLM and tell them your point.
I own 2 horses, one which is a mustang, there wonderful :)
Thxs

Oh and RE to: Pamelia Brow, they don’t have to geld all the stallions just most, say 7 out of 10. so that there still will be wild foals, but not as many.

#27

Thank you,Ginger Katherns, for the deeply moving (to me)films about Cloud and his greater tribe. I am thrilled they exist, saddened to know they are rounded up regularly. Unlike some above, I do not have a solution in mind for their situation. Maybe one isn’t needed. That which people call God doesn’t seem to interfere with homosapiens. I would love to know your view on this.

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