By — Nick Schifrin Nick Schifrin By — Zeba Warsi Zeba Warsi By — Sonia Kopelev Sonia Kopelev Leave your feedback Share Copy URL https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/afghans-seeking-refuge-in-pakistan-ordered-to-leave-or-face-forced-deportation Email Facebook Twitter LinkedIn Pinterest Tumblr Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Transcript Audio Following the 2021 U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan and subsequent Taliban takeover, hundreds of thousands of Afghans sought safe haven in Pakistan. Many spent years working with the U.S. and Afghan government and fled a Taliban crackdown. But as Nick Schifrin reports, they are on the run again after Pakistan began implementing its threat to deport more than a million undocumented Afghan refugees. Read the Full Transcript Notice: Transcripts are machine and human generated and lightly edited for accuracy. They may contain errors. Geoff Bennett: Following the 2021 U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan and subsequent Taliban takeover, hundreds of thousands of Afghans sought safe haven in Pakistan. Many had spent years working with the U.S. and Afghan governments and fled a Taliban crackdown.But, as Nick Schifrin reports, today, they are on the run again after Pakistan started implementing its threat to deport more than one million undocumented Afghan refugees. Nick Schifrin: It was supposed to be their refuge, an Afghan family's home in Pakistan's capital. But, this week, it was torn down by the government they hoped would keep them safe.And so Afghans in Pakistan bear the burden of again being uprooted; 100,000 have loaded everything they own onto buses, forced to return to their home country. But many others are resisting this move that would be far too dangerous.Benazir Akhtari, Daughter of Afghan Human Rights Activist: We have too many problems in Afghanistan. And the Taliban arrested my mom. And the Taliban wants to kill my mom. Nick Schifrin: We spoke today to Benazir and Zohra Akhtari from Islamabad. Zohra Akhtari was a human rights activist in Afghanistan under the U.S.-backed government. Last year, she even protested the Taliban after their takeover.After this demonstration, the Taliban arrested her and tortured her. Shortly after, they escaped to Pakistan. Since taking over, Afghanistan's Taliban rulers have persecuted Afghans who worked with the U.S.-backed government and blocked nearly all female education and many female careers. Benazir Akhtari: I have a dream that I come in Pakistan and continue my lesson and my study, but now I cannot. I cannot continue my education in here. And in Pakistan, I also — in Afghanistan, also, I cannot continue my education, because Taliban don't allow Afghan girls or women to go on some education centers, school or university. Nick Schifrin: How scared are you right now? How scared is your family? Benazir Akhtari: And every time, I am scared, because I am — I say now come police in my house. And it's really hard, because I have a fear.It's really hard for every Afghan that's living in Pakistan. Nick Schifrin: That's because Pakistan's deportation threat has sparked a crackdown. Police have arrested hundreds of Afghans, no matter their documentation status. Zohra Wahedi Akhtari, Afghan Human Rights Activist (through interpreter): Since September, the cops have come to our place twice. They threatened us that: "The next time we come, we will deport you."We haven't slept a moment. Muhammad Mudassar Javed, CEO, SHARP-Pakistan: We have seen reports that people are getting arrested, or if you are Afghan, whatever the document, whatever the category you are in. Nick Schifrin: Muhammad Mudassar Javed is the CEO of SHARP, a Pakistani human rights organization focused on refugees.Why do you believe Pakistan is pushing these undocumented Afghans out? Muhammad Mudassar Javed: After almost 10 years, Pakistan has the highest number of terrorist attacks in this year, 2023. Nick Schifrin: The terrorist tipping point apparently came after two attacks in late September that killed or injured more than 100.But Pakistan's security fears have nothing to do with the Afghans who fought and then fled the Taliban and now have no refuge.The United States left Afghanistan, some argue abandoned people like you. Do you feel abandoned again? Zohra Wahedi Akhtari (through interpreter): I have been beaten up and tortured there. I came here to secure a better future for my daughters, but no one has helped me. I feel like all my e-mails go to the sky. I feel like the U.N. and the government of Pakistan have failed to help me, and there is no legitimate government in Afghanistan.I wonder if there is some space for me and my kids in any country in this world. Nick Schifrin: And it is a wonder that, after abandonment by her government, by the Americans, and now her neighbors, whether anyone will listen.For the "PBS NewsHour," I'm Nick Schifrin. Listen to this Segment Watch Watch the Full Episode PBS NewsHour from Nov 01, 2023 By — Nick Schifrin Nick Schifrin Nick Schifrin is PBS NewsHour’s Foreign Affairs and Defense Correspondent. He leads NewsHour’s daily foreign coverage, including multiple trips to Ukraine since the full-scale invasion, and has created weeklong series for the NewsHour from nearly a dozen countries. The PBS NewsHour series “Inside Putin’s Russia” won a 2017 Peabody Award and the National Press Club’s Edwin M. Hood Award for Diplomatic Correspondence. In 2020 Schifrin received the American Academy of Diplomacy’s Arthur Ross Media Award for Distinguished Reporting and Analysis of Foreign Affairs. He was a member of the NewsHour teams awarded a 2021 Peabody for coverage of COVID-19, and a 2023 duPont Columbia Award for coverage of Afghanistan and Ukraine. Prior to PBS NewsHour, Schifrin was Al Jazeera America's Middle East correspondent. He led the channel’s coverage of the 2014 war in Gaza; reported on the Syrian war from Syria's Turkish, Lebanese and Jordanian borders; and covered the annexation of Crimea. He won an Overseas Press Club award for his Gaza coverage and a National Headliners Award for his Ukraine coverage. From 2008-2012, Schifrin served as the ABC News correspondent in Afghanistan and Pakistan. In 2011 he was one of the first journalists to arrive in Abbottabad, Pakistan, after Osama bin Laden’s death and delivered one of the year’s biggest exclusives: the first video from inside bin Laden’s compound. His reporting helped ABC News win an Edward R. Murrow award for its bin Laden coverage. Schifrin is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and a board member of the Overseas Press Club Foundation. He has a Bachelor’s degree from Columbia University and a Master of International Public Policy degree from the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS). @nickschifrin By — Zeba Warsi Zeba Warsi Zeba Warsi is a foreign affairs producer, based in Washington DC. She's a Columbia Journalism School graduate with an M.A. in Political journalism. She was one of the leading members of the NewsHour team that won the 2024 Peabody award for News for our coverage of the war in Gaza and Israel. @Zebaism By — Sonia Kopelev Sonia Kopelev