By — Nick Schifrin Nick Schifrin By — Sonia Kopelev Sonia Kopelev Leave your feedback Share Copy URL https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/as-russia-continues-to-wage-war-nato-meets-to-plan-ukraines-future-defense Email Facebook Twitter LinkedIn Pinterest Tumblr Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Transcript Audio Moscow insisted that it must participate in any security guarantees provided by the U.S. and Europe to Ukraine. That is likely a non-starter for the West and shows the challenge facing allies as they try to forge a path toward peace. Russia’s demand comes as U.S. and NATO military chiefs are working to create a plan that would provide Ukraine the ability to defend itself. Nick Schifrin reports. Read the Full Transcript Notice: Transcripts are machine and human generated and lightly edited for accuracy. They may contain errors. Geoff Bennett: Today, Moscow demanded that it must participate in any security guarantees provided by the U.S. and Europe to Ukraine. That is likely a nonstarter for the West that illustrates the challenge facing the allies as they try to forge a path toward peace. Amna Nawaz: Russia's new demand comes as the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff met today with his European colleagues here in Washington and NATO's military chiefs met in Europe, hoping to create a plan that would provide Ukraine the ability to defend itself and ensure its future security should the two sides come to a peace agreement.Nick Schifrin begins our coverage of today's military meetings as Russia continues to wage its war on Ukraine. Nick Schifrin: In Northeast Ukraine today, on day 1,273 of this full-scale war, life looks like hell. And for the residents of Sumy today who escaped their homes hit by a Russian drone, peace feels impossibly distant.This is the kind of attack that 32 NATO military chiefs met today to try and help Ukraine prevent. They plan security guarantees to protect a postwar Ukraine, as did Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Dan Caine, whom European officials tell "PBS News Hour" met his European counterparts today in the Pentagon.France and Britain are willing to deploy thousands of troops into Ukraine to help observe any peace deal. They would also help support and train Ukrainian troops, Europe's most capable military, often fighting with Western weapons that need maintenance.But they can't do it alone. European forces need American intelligence, coordination, logistics and weapons. Ukraine wants $90 billion worth of American weapons paid by Europe, both offensive and defensive, including Patriot air defense. The U.S. publicly hasn't revealed how much military support it will provide, but it will include assistance from the air, President Trump said yesterday in a FOX News phone call.Donald Trump, President of the United States: When it comes to security, they're willing to put people on the ground. We're willing to help them with things, especially probably if you talk about by air.We will give them very good protection, very good security. Nick Schifrin: What's new this week is President Trump's assurances on Monday to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and to European leaders the U.S. will help. That's enough direction for the military planners to begin to detail how the U.S. can help backstop a European force. And European officials say U.S. help is necessary. Emmanuel Macron, French President: And this coalition will work very actively now with the United States of America, which is a great news. Nick Schifrin: But Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov today demanded Russia have a say in those security guarantees, suggesting Moscow would demand the ability to reject them. Sergey Lavrov, Russian Foreign Minister (through interpreter): We cannot seem to agree that issues of security and collective security are now being proposed without the Russian Federation. It won't work. Nick Schifrin: Which shows enormous gaps between the two sides as Russia continues to wage its war.For the "PBS News Hour," I'm Nick Schifrin. Listen to this Segment Watch Watch the Full Episode PBS NewsHour from Aug 20, 2025 By — Nick Schifrin Nick Schifrin Nick Schifrin is PBS NewsHour’s Foreign Affairs and Defense Correspondent. He leads NewsHour’s daily foreign coverage, including multiple trips to Ukraine since the full-scale invasion, and has created weeklong series for the NewsHour from nearly a dozen countries. The PBS NewsHour series “Inside Putin’s Russia” won a 2017 Peabody Award and the National Press Club’s Edwin M. Hood Award for Diplomatic Correspondence. In 2020 Schifrin received the American Academy of Diplomacy’s Arthur Ross Media Award for Distinguished Reporting and Analysis of Foreign Affairs. He was a member of the NewsHour teams awarded a 2021 Peabody for coverage of COVID-19, and a 2023 duPont Columbia Award for coverage of Afghanistan and Ukraine. Prior to PBS NewsHour, Schifrin was Al Jazeera America's Middle East correspondent. He led the channel’s coverage of the 2014 war in Gaza; reported on the Syrian war from Syria's Turkish, Lebanese and Jordanian borders; and covered the annexation of Crimea. He won an Overseas Press Club award for his Gaza coverage and a National Headliners Award for his Ukraine coverage. From 2008-2012, Schifrin served as the ABC News correspondent in Afghanistan and Pakistan. In 2011 he was one of the first journalists to arrive in Abbottabad, Pakistan, after Osama bin Laden’s death and delivered one of the year’s biggest exclusives: the first video from inside bin Laden’s compound. His reporting helped ABC News win an Edward R. Murrow award for its bin Laden coverage. Schifrin is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and a board member of the Overseas Press Club Foundation. He has a Bachelor’s degree from Columbia University and a Master of International Public Policy degree from the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS). @nickschifrin By — Sonia Kopelev Sonia Kopelev