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Pelosi Predicts Democrats Will Have Nominee in June

With the race for the Democratic nomination reaching the home stretch and continued clashes between the president and Congress, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi assesses the fight between Sens. Obama and Clinton, the racial, economic and gender divisions in the party, and the Democrats' legislative battle to end the war Iraq.

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  • JUDY WOODRUFF:

    And to our Newsmaker interview today with Nancy Pelosi, speaker of the House of Representatives, who told me it will damage her party for years to come if the super-delegates go against the will of the pledged delegates.

    We talked in her office at the U.S. Capitol.

    Madam Speaker, thank you very much for talking with us.

    REP. NANCY PELOSI (D-CA), Speaker of the House: My pleasure. Thank you, Judy.

  • JUDY WOODRUFF:

    The presidential election first. Last night, Barack Obama declared he has now won a majority of the elected Democratic Party delegates. Is he now the presumptive nominee?

  • REP. NANCY PELOSI:

    I'd like to see this process work itself out until June. We only have, what, three more primary dates left. And when that happens, then we'll have a nominee.

  • JUDY WOODRUFF:

    Well, you said earlier this year that the super-delegates should essentially follow the will of the elected delegates. Do you think we're going to see a rush to Senator Obama in the days to come by the super-delegates?

  • REP. NANCY PELOSI:

    Well, we shall see. I have not had any conversations that would lead me to believe that there will be a rush. But I keep kind of away from it.

    I'm the chair of the convention. I have to be neutral. So whatever they do, they will decide maybe by the end of this week, next week, but by June. June is right around the corner. It's very soon. I think we can all be patient.

  • JUDY WOODRUFF:

    And, in fact, Senator Clinton said she's very much still in the fight. She's emphasizing the fact that she — if you count those disputed votes in Michigan and Florida, she says she's ahead in the popular vote.

  • REP. NANCY PELOSI:

    How delegates are selected is by a process, and the person who has the most delegates becomes the nominee of the party. It's not been about the popular vote.

    So we can have an elementary discussion, if you wish, but at the end of the day, someone will have the winning number of delegates. The delegate vote is the currency of the realm at the Democratic National Convention.

  • JUDY WOODRUFF:

    One more question on that. The Democratic Party Rules Committee is meeting at the end of May, just 10 days from now, and there's reporting already that they're going to agree on a 50-50 formula to seat those delegates from Florida and from Michigan. Does that sound right to you?

  • REP. NANCY PELOSI:

    I do think that Florida and Michigan should be seated, and I believe that they will be at the convention. It will be done in a way that I think is signed off on by both of the candidates, Senator Clinton and Senator Obama, by each of the states, Michigan and Florida, and also by the Democratic National Committee, of course, which is, until the convention, makes the determination.

    The convention will seat who it wishes to seat, but I believe it will be that Florida and Michigan will be seated.