By — Nick Schifrin Nick Schifrin By — Kayan Taraporevala Kayan Taraporevala Leave your feedback Share Copy URL https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/pentagon-leaders-brief-lawmakers-on-u-s-boat-strikes-fueling-debate-over-legality Email Facebook Twitter LinkedIn Pinterest Tumblr Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Transcript Audio A new bipartisan divide has broken open after senior U.S. military officers showed Congress video of multiple strikes on a boat in the Caribbean in early September. Republicans backed the decision by a Special Operations commander to target survivors of the first strike, while Democrats accused the commander of targeting a shipwreck. Nick Schifrin reports. Read the Full Transcript Notice: Transcripts are machine and human generated and lightly edited for accuracy. They may contain errors. Amna Nawaz: Welcome to the "News Hour."A new bipartisan divide has broken open after senior U.S. military officers showed Congress video of multiple strikes on a boat in the Caribbean in early September. Republicans backed the decision by a special operations forces commander to target survivors of the first strike in the administration's campaign against alleged drug boats. Geoff Bennett: But Democrats accused the commander of targeting a shipwreck, which would be a violation of international law. Both sides agreed that Secretary Hegseth did not provide what would have been an illegal order to kill everyone on board.Nick Schifrin begins our coverage. Question: Admiral, General, what's your message to the American people? Nick Schifrin: On Capitol Hill today, the U.S.' most senior military officer and the admiral at the center of a contentious strike gave their version and revealed more video of the September two attack that targeted what the administration says were 11 narco-terrorists.A U.S. official tells "PBS News Hour" that Admiral Frank Mitch Bradley and chairman of the Joint Chiefs, General Dan Caine told lawmakers in classified briefings that the first strike killed nine people and that, after the first strike, the boat was still seaworthy, the men on board still had drugs and communications, which meant they were still combatants, and a rescue boat was approaching.Bradley then ordered the second strike 30 to 60 minutes later to kill two more people. A third and fourth strike sunk the boat.That narrative embraced by Republicans, including Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Tom Cotton. Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR): I saw two survivors trying to flip a boat loaded with drugs bound for the United States, back over so they could stay in the fight. The first strike, the second strike, and the third and fourth strike on September 2 were entirely lawful and needful and they were exactly what we would expect our military commanders to do. Nick Schifrin: But one of the lawmakers critical of today's briefing tells "PBS News Hour" that the ship was capsized by the first strike and almost submerged. The survivors had no means of communication and it's not clear if the boat nearby would come to their rescue. House Intelligence Ranking Member Jim Himes: Rep. Jim Himes (D-CT): What I saw in that room was one of the most troubling things I have seen in my time in public service. You have two individuals in clear distress, without any means of locomotion, with a destroyed vessel, who were killed by the United States.Any American who sees the video that I saw will see the United States military attacking shipwrecked sailors. Nick Schifrin: But there was bipartisan agreement that Secretary Pete Hegseth did not give a written or verbal order before the strikes to kill everyone on board. Sen. Tom Cotton: Admiral Bradley was very clear that he was given no such order. Rep. Jim Himes: The admiral confirmed that there had not been a "Kill them all" order. Nick Schifrin: The U.S. military says, since September, it's launched 21 strikes, killing more than 80, in a mission designed to save American lives from drugs. In mid-October, the U.S. struck this submarine and, instead of targeting survivors, rescued them, because, unlike the previous case, their ship was no longer seaworthy, Cotton said today. Sen. Tom Cotton: They were treated, as they should be, as noncombatants. They were picked up by U.S. forces. Nick Schifrin: Democrats and many former military lawyers still question whether the overall campaign is legal. But when it comes to the September 2 strike, it appears Republicans, who lead Congress, are satisfied with the military and administration's explanations.For the "PBS News Hour," I'm Nick Schifrin. Listen to this Segment Watch Watch the Full Episode PBS NewsHour from Dec 04, 2025 By — Nick Schifrin Nick Schifrin Nick Schifrin is PBS NewsHour’s Foreign Affairs and Defense Correspondent. He leads NewsHour’s daily foreign coverage, including multiple trips to Ukraine since the full-scale invasion, and has created weeklong series for the NewsHour from nearly a dozen countries. The PBS NewsHour series “Inside Putin’s Russia” won a 2017 Peabody Award and the National Press Club’s Edwin M. Hood Award for Diplomatic Correspondence. In 2020 Schifrin received the American Academy of Diplomacy’s Arthur Ross Media Award for Distinguished Reporting and Analysis of Foreign Affairs. He was a member of the NewsHour teams awarded a 2021 Peabody for coverage of COVID-19, and a 2023 duPont Columbia Award for coverage of Afghanistan and Ukraine. Prior to PBS NewsHour, Schifrin was Al Jazeera America's Middle East correspondent. He led the channel’s coverage of the 2014 war in Gaza; reported on the Syrian war from Syria's Turkish, Lebanese and Jordanian borders; and covered the annexation of Crimea. He won an Overseas Press Club award for his Gaza coverage and a National Headliners Award for his Ukraine coverage. From 2008-2012, Schifrin served as the ABC News correspondent in Afghanistan and Pakistan. In 2011 he was one of the first journalists to arrive in Abbottabad, Pakistan, after Osama bin Laden’s death and delivered one of the year’s biggest exclusives: the first video from inside bin Laden’s compound. His reporting helped ABC News win an Edward R. Murrow award for its bin Laden coverage. Schifrin is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and a board member of the Overseas Press Club Foundation. He has a Bachelor’s degree from Columbia University and a Master of International Public Policy degree from the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS). @nickschifrin By — Kayan Taraporevala Kayan Taraporevala Kayan Taraporevala is an Associate Producer for PBS News Hour.