Leave your feedback Share Copy URL https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/shields-brooks-weigh-democrats-delegate-disputes Email Facebook Twitter LinkedIn Pinterest Tumblr Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Transcript The fight for the Democratic nomination was shaken up once again this week as Hillary Clinton defeated Barack Obama in the Ohio and Texas primaries. Also, Florida and Michigan might hold new primaries after they were stripped of their delegates for holding early contests. Mark Shields and David Brooks discuss the week's news. Read the Full Transcript Notice: Transcripts are machine and human generated and lightly edited for accuracy. They may contain errors. JIM LEHRER: And finally tonight, the analysis of Shields and Brooks, syndicated columnist Mark Shields, New York Times columnist David Brooks.Mark, this proves, Wyoming, everything counts in this thing right now, does it not?MARK SHIELDS, syndicated columnist: It does, Jim. And it's an example, I think, of where the Obama campaign out-planned the Clinton campaign.The Clinton campaign, by their own admission, thought very little beyond Feb. 5. And they never devoted the time, effort, energy and resources to the caucuses. And to this date, of the caucuses, Obama has won every one, save one, and that was Nevada. JIM LEHRER: And is it a simple organization thing, not only in Wyoming, but every one of these states where he does well in the caucuses, he gets there early, gets people on the ground and they do it better than the others?DAVID BROOKS, columnist, The New York Times: I think that's basically it. He also has just a native group of people who are going to show up, whether you control them or not, and that's what we've seen in state after state. People just show up spontaneously, and then he takes advantage of what they've done.But whether it's Wyoming or anywhere else, I think what we're seeing is this pattern, and it's a demographic pattern. He does well, just about without exception — except for Wisconsin, this pattern has pertained. He's done well amongst the well-educated, the more affluent and the African-Americans. She's done extremely well among the less-educated, the Catholic voters, the Latino voters.And that pattern has pertained in just about every state, as I said, with the exception of Wisconsin. And so as you look forward, you do think that pattern will probably pertain in places like Wyoming, places like Florida or Michigan, if we vote there again, places like North Carolina, in Pennsylvania, forever. JIM LEHRER: Did you find it fascinating the curiosity factor that he raised, that here's a Democrat — I mean, a Republican leader is going to go to hear Barack Obama because he wants just to hear him and see him? DAVID BROOKS: Yes, well, Obama's cousin is Dick Cheney, so he's from Wyoming.No, he's a show. He's an amazing show.