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Responses and Comments #11
May 20, 1997
Question:
The QuickTime VR pictures are truly amazing. The views are
spectacular and awe-inspiring. Thank you for providing this
opportunity to "participate" in your climb. However, in view
of the most recent deaths (as indicated by the
May 11 newsflash), do you think that some people, for which money is no
object, have started to take the risks of climbing Mt.
Everest too lightly? Making a summit attempt that late in
the day, and without bottled oxygen seems not only foolhardy
but indicative of a death wish. I am also somewhat surprised
by the number of climbing groups, and that the trails are so
well marked. Has a Mt. Everest climb become the "in thing"
to do for those with enough money to spend and who have let
their desire outweigh their common sense? I would very much
appreciate your thoughts on this subject.
K.A.
Response from David Breashears:
When desire outweighs common sense on Everest there is a
thin margin of success for those attempting the summit.
There have always been climbers with the life-long desire to
summit Everest, it's just the media that has brought this
mountain to the attention of the world in the recent past.
Unfortunately, the rise in the number of climbers on this
peak will only result in the increased numbers who fail (or
perish) on its summit. It's important to remember that
Everest has always had a mystique about it, where elite
climbers have come to attain the stature of bravery and
image of strength. Today, with guided climbing, ordinary
people can now reach that stature on the world's highest
peak.
Question:
I would appreciate if you could post this question for me,
as my internet mail service does not work properly. Has
anyone attempted to modify an oxygen rebreather system for
use in mountain climbing? It seems that oxygen is often a
limiting factor in an ascent of Everest, and the rebreather
would provide a long-lasting oxygen source at nearly body
temperature. Also, does any team member have any
recommendations for books about Everest? Hope the weather
improves. Best of luck.
Steven B. Bird, M.D.
Pensacola, FL
Response from Dr. Howard Donner:
Since the 1950's climbers have experimented with rebreathing
systems on Everest. From an informal survey at Base Camp, it
seems that these systems have been fraught with problems
primarily associated with freezing. I am aware that there
are current generation rebreathing systems for marine use
that are very compact and efficient. I am not aware of any
field testing of these units as of yet.
Response from David Breashears:
Some of the best Everest books are: West Ridge by
Thomas Hornbein, Everest by Peter Gillman (photo and
editorial analogy), Everest by Walt Unsworth
(chronological history),
Everest: The Mystery of Mallory and Irvine by Tom
Holzel and Audrey Salkeld, Everest the Hard Way by
Chris Bonnington.
Question:
This is a two part question.
1. I have read some literature that indicates that women are
less susceptible to HAPE than men because their blood
doesn't "sludge" as much. Is this true? And if so, why? What
are the medical-anthropological implications of this?
2. David Breashears, according to interviews, Krakauer's
book, and a recent ABC special, has been very critical of
the traffic of climbers and "clients" descending (or rather
ascending) upon Everest. Could it be that your team, even in
the name of science, is promoting exactly the wrong message?
It is common knowledge that Everest is horribly polluted,
and becoming a geographical cure for anyone with enough
money and chutzpah. (It seems that climbing Everest does
have some long range neurological implications—the
loss of common sense, as I see that Anytoyli Bokureev &
Breashears are back even after the ridiculous loss of life
last year.) I *do* wish you all a safe climb. I see that the
mountain has already claimed many lives this year as well.
Treat her well.
Allegra Blake
Michigan
Response from Dr. Howard Donner:
Although I have heard anecdotes about this, I do not know of
any research that supports this idea.
Response from David Breashears:
How could our team be promoting the wrong message if 1) it
is only a two-person climbing/filming team versus the
average 10-person team; 2) if our purpose for being here is
to study the effects of high altitude on the body and brain
so we might know more when we (and hopefully other climbers)
climb high in the future? To date, none of us on our team
(with a combined 26 years of Everest climbing) has been
diagnosed with any neurological problems or lack of common
sense. Furthermore our combined seven successful summits
shows that we may have an excess of common sense. If the
increased traffic brought with it experienced Himalayan
veterans all would be okay. It is the influx of
inexperienced climbers on Everest that brings with it the
problems.
Question:
To Pete;
Hello my fellow Coloradoen, and congratulations on your
success. While I climb fourtneeres here I will be thinking
of you and your team, and hope to do Everest someday. My
questions is, when I am mountaineering I lose my appetite
and have to force myself to eat, do you guys run into that
problem? And second, when you are at high camps and near the
summit, are you cooking meals or do you eat things like
energy bars to conserve the weight of food, stove, fuel?
Good luck, and I look forward to hearing you speak about
your trip when you get back to Colo.
Scott McCune
Colorado Springs, CO
Response from Pete Athans:
Dear Scott,
Thanks for your kind message. Altitude and appetite have an
inversely proportional relationship. In Base Camp, we have
cooked meals prepared, but by the time we get to Camp III
and IV, we are reduced to eating snack food and soup. Good
climbing.
Question:
WOW! What can I say? What you folks are doing is awesome! I
have "been there with you" through your use of QuickTime VR
and I must say the work you are doing to bring this
experience to the world is appreciated VERY much! All of us
here at Apple Computer wish you a safe and productive
journey to the top of our world! What sort of photography
equipment are you using and how are you processing the QTVR
movies? Are you doing this on-site up there?
Thanks!
David Palermo
QuickTime VR Evangelist
Apple Computer, Inc.
Response from Base Camp:
Funny you should ask....we have two Apple QuickTake cameras
(loaned by Apple) that we're using for our digital imagery
that we transmit via satellite phone and a Powerbook 1400C
(also loaned by Apple). The QuickTime VR nodes are shot on a
Nikon 35mm camera with a tripod and a special QTVR rotator
head. We send the film out immediately by runner from Base
Camp who throws the film on a helicopter in Lukla within a
day (or two) and then the shipment is sent via DHL to NOVA
in Boston where the film is processed and our extremely
creative Technical Director, also known as the world's
greatest QTVR stitcher (check out our site on the
Pyramids of Giza), Annie
Valva, works around the clock to get those 360s up for you
as soon as possible.
Question:
To David Carter,
Greetings from Indiana. Thought you might want to know Arie
Luyendyk won the pole this year at 218.263. Steve Kinser
also got a ride and qualified at 210. Also, Larry Bird will
be introduced as the new coach of the Pacers tomorrow. Hope
the winds calm down soon so you can make your summit
attempt.
Good Luck,
Dave Roberts
Greenfield, IN
Response from David Carter:
We probably will be moving up the mountain over the next few
days. The winds have still not died down, but we're still
going to position ourselves on the mountain to be ready for
when the winds do die. Drink a beer for me at the race!
Question:
Hello!! My name is Tony, and I was wondering, How does it
feel to be climbing the most dangerous and highest mountain
on land? And how do you cope with the fact that you might
die on a big icy rock that few people have conquered?
Signed,
Tony S.
Colorado
Response from David Breashears:
Climbing Everest has had its ups and downs for us and
because it is the highest mountain in the world, we take
extra caution to be careful and use common sense when on its
upper slopes. Climbing Everest is not nearly as dangerous as
it's made out to be. For well equipped and cautious climbers
it's not a "Death Sentence." It is very common to climb
Everest without any mishaps at all.
Question:
As one of many who daily check on your progress and
experience Everest vicariously through you, best of luck for
a safe and fruitful climb! My question is this: what kind of
dreams have you had while climbing in such high altitudes
and stressful conditions? Are nightmares common?
Jacki Treml
Ann Arbor, MI
Response from David Breashears:
We can't really say we have nightmares. Our only nightmares
are waiting for the wind. We're sorry to report that we have
no mountaineering related nightmares.
Question:
Are you connected anyway to satellites or weather service to
help protect you from dangerous weather or is that
impossible? Are there any weather stations on the mountain?
best of luck-it is unfortunate that the climbs on the
mountain have become news worthy because of the tragedy last
year and now this new situation with those reported deaths.
Cheryl Popielasz
Mt. Airy, Maryland
Response from Pete Athans:
We receive sophisticated weather reports every other day
from a UK organization that specializes in winds at 24,000'
and 29,000'. Thanks for your concern.
Question:
During climbs in my local mountains to about 10,000 feet, I
have noticed that my hands and feet swell quite a bit, and
can cause my boots to become very uncomfortable. When
climbing at extreme altitude, is such swelling a factor? If
so, do you have a means to control it? Best wishes to all of
you. My thoughts and energies are with you.
Dirk Petchul
Orange, CA
Response from Dr. Howard Donner:
There are many reasons for swelling at altitude. At any
altitude, especially in the heat, swelling of the hands and
arms may occur due to centripetal force of the swinging arms
or lymphatic and venous constriction from pack strap
compression over the shoulder. At altitude, peripheral edema
may occur in some individuals (studies have shown peripheral
edema to be more common in women). Peripheral edema at
altitude may be benign or may be associated with other
symptoms of AMS (Acute Mountain Sickness).
Treatment for peripheral edema involves either resting at
the same altitude or very small doses of diuretics which
speeds up resolution. I usually don't put patients on
diuretics when they are climbing.
Question:
Information returning to Wisconsin concerning the missing
party seems a little sketchy. Was Anatoli Boukreev or his
party involved? Kick it!
K. Hanson
Milwaukee, WI
Response from Base Camp:
Anatoli Boukreev was not among those that died on the north
side of Everest on May 8. Getting news from the north side
(as explained in a
recent newsflash) is very difficult. As far as we know (and according to a
source close to him), Anatoli was on the permit with the
Kazakh climbers attempting the north side of Everest.
However, we have reports today that Anatoli is now back in
Base Camp here on the south side.
Question:
Best of luck in your summit attempt, sending good thoughts
of safe journeys on Mt. Everest. My question: Do you get a
sense of peacefulness and calmness at that altitude. Feeling
closer to God or your sense of God? I hear your dreams can
be more vivid at that altitude. Do you experience that??
Thanks and safe journeys.
Jayne Gallion
Puyallup, WA
Response from David Breashears:
Response from David Breashears:
Yes, we have a much more relaxed feeling than we do at sea
level being away from the stresses of home. It's also so
debilitating at altitude that we do achieve a sense of
tranquillity up here.
Question:
To Howard Donner,
I heard about your adventure and this website on KOTO. I
just had to let you know that all of our thoughts are with
you back home. I hope all is going well for your party, it's
a little far for San Miguel Search and Rescue to respond to.
Will you be home for "Mountain Film"? NOVA should present
this segment next year. Be safe, have fun, and be prepared
for a million questions at the next SAR meeting.
Axel Koch
Telluride, CO
Response from Dr. Howard Donner:
High winds have delayed the summit climb. Mountain film is
now an impossibility. Look forward to seeing you as soon as
I return. Say hi to everybody on SAR.
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