Speaker I mean, I'd love to hear all of it. I mean, as much as you feel like kind of I would love the familial aspect of this, the family aspect growing up. You know, the antics, the everything, but also the career side of all of this. And also I house of the individual who's very famous father that preceded you both.

Speaker So, yeah, well, we grew up in Mar Vista, L.A., which at that time was a brand new neighborhood with vast fields of celery where our street was kind of the last one. And then we used to have Sellery bomb fights in the fields, say we stack up the the old wood boxes, crates and make forts out of them.

Speaker And Jeff, eight years younger than me, so I school and pretty hard and a lot of things taught him how to catch the ball, wrestle and fight. And I really put him through it, but he got me back.

Speaker Years later, he was telling that he was telling a story. And then Jordan was also telling a story of his he was telling the story of the two of you sort of learning how to movie fight from your dad. Yeah. And staging quite a number of those on you on these flatbed trucks.

Speaker Yeah. Yeah. My dad taught us how to box. And so we always enjoyed that, Jeff. I believe if he didn't knock me out, I came pretty close to it. Here we were fighting in the air in our garage with boxing gloves. And he hit me and that's my head back up against the refrigerator. He floored me. And that's when I figured maybe I better stop trying to punch this big old guy. You see, it's bigger than me.

Speaker And Jordan was telling the story of when you were doing was doing next to normal used with Jordan. And you had this fight.

Speaker Yeah. We so, you know, we love fighting in the movies like The Baker Boys. We had a fight in there and we asked Steve Clawless, our young director, if we could help contribute to figuring out what the fight was going to be.

Speaker And we worked with our choreographer, you know, the stunt guy.

Speaker And Jeff and I had this idea. We wanted to fight up against a chain link fence because we figured it would sound kind of horrific, but we'd have enough give so that when we crashed up against it, it wouldn't it wouldn't be like Lorber would whack us. And we wanted the fight to be real awkward. These weren't, you know, boxers. They were brothers that were going crazy on each other.

Speaker And I knew that the fight had to end with my brother on top of me, grabbing my fingers, threatening to break them, because in the movie I was a piano player and and I know my brother and I to him, look, I know you're very passionate in what you do. You get into your creative mode. Do not hurt me, man. Do not twist my fingers, you know?

Speaker And I said, I'm gonna have a word that will work within the context of the scene. And if I said I think it was, oh, twice row, if I say that, you know, you're really hurting me.

Speaker And back off, so comes the time. And he goes bananas and he's on top of me and he grabs my finger and oh and I go, oh, oh.

Speaker And Jeff, as you know, he's out there. He's not even hearing me. So I had to say, you are breaking my FSD finger.

Speaker I did go to the hospital that night. He didn't break my finger, but he came close to it.

Speaker Well, this is a cure. This is interesting to me. This a fight dynamic because brothers fight in normal life brothers.

Speaker But he also one time up at his house. I tortured him a lot when I was when he was a kid. I could. I had him gone so bad. All I had to do was just point my finger at him. We got like this and look at him. I would just send him bonkers. He would start to cry. And then I could do it. The rest of the family sitting at the table. I would do it under the table. So he just knew this. Look at how I look at him. I knew that the finger was going. And, you know, and also I was a perfectionist with him. He had sports and everything. I wanted him to be perfect and I would make him run the gauntlet and all that stuff. So anyway, he was a perfectionist. So anyway, years later, I'm up at his house and he suddenly we're just partying. We're hanging out.

Speaker And he jumped on me, pinned me back like this. He's so big and then started tickling me so bad that I you know, I was crying, you know, it hurt her. So he got me back. He did. Then we did. Another terrible thing he did to me was we did Saturday Night Live. We cohosted, I can remember was run the baker by this time. And they allow you to write one skit, which we wrote.

Speaker And we wanted to always do us something about men touching each other. We were fascinated by that and how, you know, in our family, you know, people would hug each other a lot and kiss each other and other families. They didn't. And we were kind of curious about this. So we wrote this this thing that first day they were going to let us put it on. But then they said, well, we we have a couple minutes to fill. You can do it at the very end. We didn't really have time to rehearse, so we had no ending for it, kind of. So were quickly talking about it. And it just quickly what happens is I knock on the door and I'm all dressed in the tie and everything, and Jeff comes on white ducks. And I said, I'm looking for Sandra and he says, I am. Sondre says, I'm kind of a Swedish accent. He's got this tight white t shirt on with his nipples protruding anyway. And he says, come in. And he he gestures to a massage table there. And I come in. I'm kind of nervous, you know, and I'm looking around trying to make Congress. This all looks very European and hear what I'm saying all this. He's like pouring oil over the top of his head. It's drool dribbling all over his body. Anyway, he gets me on a massage table and he is a great mazouz. In fact, he is the favorite in the family if you get Jeff your home free. And so he starts to massage me and now I'm starting to relax and do a good he says he goes like, This is I need you now.

Speaker And I said, What? What? He says, No, no, I need you like bread.

Speaker And he starts to work me and now I'm relaxing. Hi. I feel pretty good. And then I had my knees up like this and his hands slip off my knees into my crotch area. And I jump off the thing and I say, what do you do?

Speaker And I say, How dare you? And, you know, I know what you're trying to do. He's no noises. I sleep. I sleep. I'm European people.

Speaker And he starts to go like this. He has a nervous breakdown. And then I told Jeff, I said, you know, we can't leave it sad like that for the audience. We have to have a nice, happy ending. So I said, let's shake hands at the end and I'll say, I understand. So I did. I shook his hand. We're on live now. And I said, no, I understand. Let's let's call it as a nice shake his hand and I take my hand away. My brother will give me my hand. He's got my hand now. He starts to work my arm. He just it gets up my arm like this. He grabs hold of me. I'm in my underwear. He throws me on top of the massage table and gets on top of me and starts to hump me. This is on live television and it was crazy.

Speaker And the guy from the network comes running down. It's like being standing out on this. He says, how could you? How could you?

Speaker He is the only reason we let you guys do this was because your brother's show is like the irony of that. And yeah, that was it. They I think they've made Blanket off the last part in L.A. by the time you got here. But I think the New Yorkers saw my brother on top of me was that was bad.

Speaker You have a very weird looking sick.

Speaker Well, I hope there's a little of that.

Speaker Yeah, no, you it's very interesting dynamic. The two of you as brothers are very known in your own right. Both of you are known in your day. I mean, just the legacy of your great father and your family. But it's also interesting to play brothers, to be seen to be an mean. You've got two instances of this, you know, Baker boys in which you are brothers as brothers, your brothers are you.

Speaker Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker And then in heaven in America, you both show up in no way.

Speaker He was my boss now and I was his baby. Yeah. It was a wonderful film to be involved in. And then he acted in a movie that I directed for Disney called the Thanksgiving Promise. He had like a smile. He came into a small park as I out of the whole family would be in it. It was kind of a family thing. We love working together. We're always looking for something else to do, which is extraordinary.

Speaker Doing very nice. But the other thing I want to say is that you have those levels of looking at the audience, looking at you and going to the view and knowing that you're brothers, you're very believable as broad. I mean, I was told by both Jordan and Jeff that they've given him this list of who would you think of being your brother and the fabulous being the mom isn't obviously.

Speaker Yeah, well well, you know, we've kind of even though we've only worked a couple of times together as actors, our careers, we've affected each other's careers.

Speaker Like years ago I went in for a boxing movie with John Houston was doing and he John really liked me. But he said, you know, you're just a little bit too old. And I got everything that this character needs, but just a little bit too old. And I said, well, I think I got a guy in mind for you. I said, Jeff came and got the part. Yeah. What was it called? Fat City. And then years later, he's doing the Baker Boys. He's cast. They they went to the studio, went to cast somebody else. Jeff said, Now I want to do this, my brother. And so Steve Clovis, who's a young guy, 26 years old, never directed anything.

Speaker I go to lunch with him and we're talking. And I brought out a little Polaroid picture that I had of my brother and I in the back of a flatbed truck when Jeff was about 17. And we I did a lot of what we used to call street theater in those days, and we'd pull into the parking lot of a market or something and staged a fight. So people the crowd would gather around and then we put on scenes from come blow your horn, some crazy thing. And I think that probably got me the part when Steve saw that.

Speaker And and the two of you are actually I would have to say it just in terms of my sense of both of your lives.

Speaker You are two very different actors. You are two very different actors in style, your two very different actors in moving parts and everything. But I also sense that there's two different personalities I'm feeling right now. I'm talking to you. And obviously not to be surprising people, but in the in the bag, those bigger boys.

Speaker What dynamic of that tension, that whole thing of being so loving of each other and so frustrated by each other is it's this it's palpable and very real. And I'm sure there's an element of that that exists in real life, you know, in terms of frustration, all that.

Speaker I mean, you know, one of the favorite questions that I get is, you know, is there any jealousy or competition between you and your brother? And my stock answer to that is no, because I taught him everything that he knows. And but the truth of it is, you know, being my younger brother, I mean, all his you know, everything that he accomplishes, I, I revel. I mean, it's it's it makes me so happy.

Speaker I mean, this whole music thing of his is so exciting for not only me but his whole family, you know, because when he was about 14, I had a dad electric guitar, which now would be worth thousands of thousand dollars. My brother gave it away to one of his friends. Thanks, Jack. And he had that thing. And I was off, you know, playing sports in school or something. And he picked this up guitar and got quite good on the guitar early. And I was doing a bunch of movies with Quincy Jones. Quincy, who was scoring at that time. Quincy said, What did you come into the studio and let's mess around and we can put a record out. And if this movie hits over, don't make some money. And I said, Quincy, I can't sing. And says, you haven't come on in and bring somebody to play the guitar for you because I know you can't play and sing at the same time. So I brought Jeff at 17 years old at the time. And after I struggle through a few songs, I said, Quincy just been writing some stuff you to just hear him just for fun. And I said, Yeah.

Speaker Puts the recorder on. And Jeff goes off for about an hour with some of his tunes right on the spot right there. Quincy bought one of Jeff's tunes that he put in John and Mary. And I was so excited. I thought, wow, my brother is going to his career as a musician. I hadn't done any movies. I was so excited for him because I'd always loved music. And then he got. First movie was nominated for Academy Award. And so that was kind of the end of his music theme for a long time, not for him personally, because he was always doing it. But it wasn't till the Baker boys that he got to do a little bit of it. And now a crazy heart. You know, he's a rock star and he's traveling all around. And with Elton John and all these guys, it's it's so much fun. I just love watching him do it.

Speaker Well, it's also fascinating to see, you know, because now when does know, as one starts to know him, that this has been a passion of yours a long, long time. And it is the sort of and when you start looking at the films, that was things to Jeptoo. I've seen the films over the years as the audience. Then you come back now and do be me and this and start having this really concentrated rescreening of so much of it in the art of music kind of music coming in and out of it is remarkably strong, which you sort of don't realize of all weird things, Thailand.

Speaker But I think my brother is in every sense of the word.

Speaker He's a renaissance man. And he can do many, many things. You know, and I'm sure you'll touch upon it and in your interviews. But he can. He's a wonderful artist and a lot with a lot of different mediums. And he's a potter. He can paint, draw.

Speaker And everything that he does, even when he was a little kid. And I could show you the things that he did when he was very young.

Speaker There is a very unique kind of specialness about it. And I think that continues. And in his you know, in his home, he loves to garden. And he takes that, you know, the way out there, you know, with his garden. He loves it.

Speaker And, of course, his music and his acting. Well, you know, it's it's fun to be his bro and so on. I get it. I get good Christmas presents.

Speaker I won't back up a little bit to an earlier point in my have in Jordan. I think he said to me that you and ever echoed this as well.

Speaker Great athlete in your when you're a kid and scouted for the Dodgers and played basketball. And so were you.

Speaker And then and that he had this great love for music. And even I think John Goodman said he'd kind of want to be a rock and roll star. And you want to be. They thought you may have thought you were gonna be an athlete. And yet both of you actually did go into the family business, as it were. And how did that evolution sort of.

Speaker Yeah, when when Jeff was younger, I mean, I loved sports. I was consumed by my so I enjoy them. And I saw in Jeff the possibility that I could mold this little guy into better athletes. And I was someone who would really take it out there because he seems strong. And so I worked on it. I remember one time his first Little League moment. He woke up in the middle of the night. He had some terrible dream. He was wandering the hallways trying to catch a ball. And perhaps I did go a little too far with him. But then he he wasn't interested in the team sports very much at all, the individual sports.

Speaker I got him into surfing and he really still likes to surf. I went to the University of Hawaii and loved surfing. So Jeff got into that. Yeah, but he.

Speaker Wait. Sure. But the thing they're trying to get at this moment was sort of in those of you you with both of these and I think both of you are passionate in your individual interest and yet that the careers became the acting career. Are they known careers CEO?

Speaker This is lovely, by the way.

Speaker I can talk about.

Speaker Right.

Speaker OK. Yeah, well, my dad I just want to show him. OK. My dad, Lloyd, he was our teacher. Both of us.

Speaker When? A guys.

Speaker When they so you know, someone or Neil who who are still. Just tell me who started the film.

Speaker Nielsen, understand the stakes.

Speaker OK, so my dad, Lloyd, was our teacher, Jeff and myself, and. And we basically both went to work in our father's shop. And for me, it's been a wonderful life. And I think Jeff is really he enjoys his work. My dad was a real perfectionist. He demanded a lot of himself and his family had a sense of humor about it. But he really and Jeff, you know, he's interesting because on the surface, he seemed very laid back and very easy guy. Sometimes some of his calling the Slosson because he likes to just hang has although he's been pretty busy lately. But when he works, he loves detail and that he's teasing about and the Baker boys that came into the makeup room one time and he was working on putting a freckle on his hand and just the right spot. And I guess he figured they'd be close on his hands when he's playing the piano.

Speaker I love it, but I think that's why it's good, because he's very disciplined. He cares so much.

Speaker Well, I like you said before that he's very passionate and I think it is. I mean.

Speaker Interestingly enough, now gotten to witness it, because as I was telling you, this this moment yesterday where you really became I think it became engaged with this painting and and was quite dramatic in in executing.

Speaker I think also, you know, on the homefront, he's very passionate about his family. He I think that's truly the center of his world, his daughters and to his wife. And he. I know that that's the most important thing to her, which is evocative of how you all grew up to.

Speaker Yeah.

Speaker But you have my parents were great parents. We were very fortunate to have those parents. But Jeff is a great dad and a very loyal, caring husband.

Speaker And I think, you know, one of the qualities that he has which helps him in that regard is he's very patient, patient with others and with himself. You know, he he knows the things, especially the good things don't come immediately. And you you have to have faith and and be patient.

Speaker Let's talk about him in America a little bit. Also, what a sad and touching, amazing film.

Speaker Yeah, well, my father one of the words we heard all the time growing up was respect and respect for your fellow man. And he also wanted us all to.

Speaker Do our best to become true citizens of our community in an effective way. And I just really taken that to heart, he said in his movie Hidden in America, which I present. You know, that was all about Jeff trying to shed some light on the problem of hunger here in America, where you think, oh, no, not in America. Well, you know, there's a lot of people walking around. Their clothes look pretty decent and everything else. But at night, they're hitting the garbage bins behind a takeout joints looking for burgers to take home to their family because maybe some medical emergency happened or something. There's a lot of people living on the edge. And I think that film went a long ways to illustrate that.

Speaker Yeah, and it was tough because, you know, we wanted to make a movie that was entertaining, but that also had this information. And that's a tough combination.

Speaker Well, it was actually was those I mean, those children were quite extraordinary. Yeah. And, you know, incentive for those kids, it's just. Yeah, it's perfect.

Speaker And I was it was an exciting movie for me to be a part of because, you know, I totally sympathize with everything that the movie is about, but I'd never really experienced any of it.

Speaker And I did go downtown and just wait in the lines to get food and to see what that was like. And the bureaucracy was unbelievable. No, no, not too many. I mean, everyone swab and not too much, but people would you know, they'd wait in one line. You'd wait in one line for like an hour and a half, two hours. And they finally call your name. You go up there and they tell you you were in the wrong line or in the wrong building, and then you had to go somewhere else. And, you know, these people who, you know, like all of us are proud, you know, proud of themselves. They feel badly about having to wait in the line in the first place. And then when they get turned away, sometimes that's all it takes, two or three times and then they just give up.

Speaker And I can't do this.

Speaker What was it like having him as it was?

Speaker Well, put it pretty much like, you know, like he usually is.

Speaker He's very effortless, you know. And I don't I can't remember seeing much, to tell you the truth. What he truly came on this little do his little bit there. He did a small part of that.

Speaker He shows up in the film and he interesting. And there is he's so diametrically opposed to your character. Then you look at this film and you go, oh, this is Jeff and Beau. And in bigger voices, it's exactly the opposite. So you've got that's a brother thing going well with you and sort of then as a as a curiosity.

Speaker And I also think that Jeff, he likes to surround himself, create when he's doing something creative with his friends and his family. It's kind of like my dad was like that, too. He feels relaxed that way. Martin Bell, who directed him in America, was a buddy of his and Clovis. We didn't know close to well, but we got to know real well. The nice thing about that was we had about three months before the movie began. So we got to really play with the material and get to know Steve and Michelle when she came in and joined us. We'd go out to, you know, these tacky bars around the airport and, you know, where they had lounge singers. And we'd hang out there and say our lines. And we played each other's parts. Even Michelle, we played Michelle's part and Steve would play some of our roles and then we improvise on all the dialogue. But then we came back to just Steve's dialogue. It was so good in the end, but we went down all these different roads, so we felt very comfortable. I think that's Jeff likes that. He likes to feel very comfortable when he's creating.

Speaker And the two of you. I mean, then you've got that other dynamic to that. You know each other extremely well. Yeah. You have to sort of divorce your own brother wants to be those brothers or do you know really?

Speaker I mean, I think the way I approach a part and Jeff probably does as well as you know, it's more about finding the parts of yourself that don't belong in there and getting them out. But all the other stuff that was just gonna be there, regardless of what was happening because of who we are and our brother relationship. But, you know, there are certain things to that that's good about working with family and friends. Is you because of that trust that's involved, you will take chances maybe and do things that you normally wouldn't do. Like, you know, one of the things that happened on Baker Boys is Jeff sometimes likes a lot of takes. You know, he did 12, 13, 14 takes, whereas I'm used to doing it real quick, like one, two, three and order. And, you know, at first I didn't like the fact that doing all this takes us so. This is a comedy is a lot of funny stuff, you can't do it over again.

Speaker He hears noises when you get tired and you get to that point where you say, enough already. And I says, that's where sometimes the most etcetc things happen. And I think he was right in a lot of ways.

Speaker John Goodman, tell a great story to us about being on Mascot Anonymous. And they had been doing I don't know whether it was a matter of taste, but it was late, late maybe am or something. He said they'd been just they were just tired to the point that you couldn't find anything funny anymore.

Speaker Cheffy sort of turned out, was it? Come on, Walter. If it fell into immediately The Lebowski, The Lebowski mode. Come on, Walter. We can do it again. And I said the John. Did he did you think he knew that? He said no easy way. Wasn't meant to be funny. He just kind of fell into that into that zone again with that. Just from sheer exhaustion, which is kind of interesting. I'd like to talk about some of those moments, too, especially. I know I know the story of you're actually joined. Tell me the story of your mother seeing Lebowski, just hating it when everybody was so loving it because you so didn't want him to be that character. But he has created it. He's got he's had a couple of amazing roles. But that one and the and the whole the Boesky thing is quite something.

Speaker Yeah. I would love some day. I haven't done it yet, but I would love somebody. Go to one of those Lebowski feature whenever they call me with all the people together to see what that's like.

Speaker But that was that was a wonderful role for him because he was so perfect for that role. Yeah, I enjoyed him in that.

Speaker But it's because he's my brother. It's kind of hard for me to see him any other way.

Speaker Yeah, I wouldn't have it. In some ways, it's all movie.

Speaker Yeah. My mom was a tremendous critic. She. She was tough, you know.

Speaker I mean, she's a wonderful mom. But I mean, when she was watching your stuff, you know, she'd always give it to us.

Speaker I give you a little bit about your. I mean, I do. I'd like to talk a little bit about the beginning of how that stuff, because, I mean, I, I just as I said, the landlord is such a skill and it's kind of that's another kind of darling little thing. Synchronous moment.

Speaker Yeah. When I did the landlord that was House First film, Hal Ashby. Sure.

Speaker Show and how I had been Norman Jewesses Ed for many years. You know, I think he got some kind of Emmy Award nominations actually for some of that.

Speaker And I did a movie that Norman directed called Galey. And how was an associate producer on that one, which was a joke because he wasn't suited for that at all. He was always going up against the exaction the other way around. But he was there and that's when I got to know him. And then then came the landlord. He was the next movie.

Speaker And I think Norman was gonna originally direct it himself, but he gave it to how to direct sort of us because how is this buddy? And, you know, it was a it was a wonderful experience. He was I think Jeff and I learned a lot from how. And then years later, Jeff did his his last movie. So we bookended house career.

Speaker Yeah. He said that how really talk about really bugging these guys. He was really doing that. Made my way to die.

Speaker Yeah. That was tough. They took it away from it in many ways to die. But but ah. As he was just starting and he was full of all kinds of wonderful creative ideas. And you know, he had one of the greatest cinematographers in the business shooting at Gordon Willis.

Speaker And Michael Chapman was his his operator. Both those guys have Academy Awards and. And how is, you know, stretching the limits all the time, but always with great joy and making, you know, that, you know, I've told this to my brother and when I'm one of my mentors and my life was my basketball coach, John Wooden, who had a thing called a pyramid of success that he established as an English teacher, actually not as a basketball coach.

Speaker And the pyramid, first of all. Yes. It all leads to your success. And to coach success was peace of mind and nothing to do with winning. I was finding peace of mind. And the blocks in the pyramids are all the qualities that you need to reach the apex. And the two cornerstones of the pyramid are industriousness, which is hard work. And the other one is Joy, because he always said that anybody can bring hard work to the table. But when you bring it with joy, something special going to happen. And that's what how Ashby did. I think my brother does that. He loves what he does and he works hard, but he brings great joy to it. And then the top of the pyramid is divided in half. When you finally have that moment, the big game, when you can win at all, then it's divided in half and you must have faith.

Speaker You must have patience and faith in God or faith in yourself. And you must be patient because it doesn't happen.

Speaker You cannot use them. Right.

Speaker And if you get that one shot, you know the big jump shot from the corner, two minutes to go and you blow it. You miss it. You got to have patience with the ball. Come your way again and you can win it all with that.

Speaker Very that's very that's very it's very, very hard.

Speaker Jeff, I think this was Jeff heard a lot about John Wooden growing up.

Speaker I made sure that LeBron thing is quite interesting, by the way. Yeah. Yeah. The Lakers. Yeah.

Speaker We did a couple of things with him and actually two different ones. The one that's on his property in and out has a friend who has a like an Alice in Wonderland type. He's a high hedge and he's he's a he's the symbol that little symbol keeps recurring. It's one of the things he did with us.

Speaker Yeah. He's trying to get me to do one house. And Kawhi. He wants me to do that. I have a maze of his in my dining room that I'm sure he does.

Speaker And it does. And it seemed to also quite fit him that sort of, you know, you'll get there. Yeah, you're right. It may seem like you're the furthest away. He said to me the other days may seem like it. And the furthest out point but you get there is also in and of itself. Yeah.

Speaker Positive. Great and great. I'm a virgin. What? What other directors have you shared? But not at the same time. Mm hmm. I'm just trying to think. I mean, you shared how Hal be together.

Speaker Bigger boys. Yeah.

Speaker The Houston experience, which is you didn't I didn't work here, but I'm trying to think. I don't know that maybe yet. Maybe.

Speaker I just was curious when you said I started thinking I wonder if there were other things that one doesn't know immediately. No, I think that Jordan told us a great story, too, about you taking him to your agent and him sitting down in Reno.

Speaker Yeah. Yeah, there were Jeff was just starting. There was a casting agency, a casting agent called Millie Garcia.

Speaker She was kind of a legend in the business at that time, an older woman and probably my dad had made a phone call to her chief.

Speaker Jeff could come in and do just a general audition, just show her what he could do. Not for a particular role.

Speaker And I told Jeff I'd work with him and I suggested Catcher in the Rye and that opening monologue so great.

Speaker And at that time, the book had been out. But a lot of people, especially of the older generation, were not aware of it. And I thought that I said, Jeff, you can come in and do this thing because they're always gonna say to you first thing they ask you. So what's been going on? And you can say, well, I was the manager, my fencing team just launch into that whole crazy world of whole. And cough goes on for about three pages and it's absolutely hysterical. So I worked on that with Jeff and he nailed it. I mean, he had that very natural kind of thing. And and then I came to the interview with him, but I didn't show myself to Malagasy. I hit out in the hallway there and listened at the door. And when he finished with his monologue and she bought, you know, she thought this was just Jeff talking about his experience. And then when Jeff was finished, I opened the door and came in as all loose.

Speaker The guy who talks to him about sex and stuff, that's about it gets better. And we went into that. There was so much fun.

Speaker That was great. And her response must've been.

Speaker Oh, yeah. She was amazed. I mean, I think she, you know, got behind him, man.

Speaker Did you did you have films with your dad, too?

Speaker Yeah. Oh, yeah. I directed my dad a couple of times in this movie Thanksgiving promise that Jordan had a lead in you. Yeah. Let's talk about my mom and everybody. Well, my dad always loved working with family. I mean, in the beginning, we were just starting. You know, he gave us all our first jobs. We were really blessed with that because in this business, that's the hardest thing. I mean, there are so many talented young actors who can't get that first job. So we were so lucky after the first job, of course.

Speaker Then you have to produce. That's why our dad. You know, he was very strict about preparation. And he said, you guys gotta be I just loaded to the hilt. When you come into work, because there's a lot of hard work and people out there that would like that opportunity.

Speaker And a double edged sword for you a little bit, too. I mean, also fuming that you were carrying the mantle of your dad all the time.

Speaker Not really. I mean, I felt pretty blessed with the opportunity. And so we a period on my dad's show, Sea Hunt and all of that. And then after Jeff and I both got rolling, my dad would say, so you heard that you got. Did you get that part? Yeah. He said, is there anything in there for me? Or how about your your nephew or you know. And he would go down the line. He loved working with family. And we we did, too.

Speaker What was also lovely is now you have Jordan also coming into his eyes and getting his. This is a quite remarkable. I mean, how many examples of Hollywood families are acting families? I'm always struck by how acting families are one of those ones that really does kind of go into the genes and in very different ways in this many bearing worries that, you know, there's many examples.

Speaker Well, the tough thing about it, I think the hardest part about working with family is the audition, the audition aspect, because, you know, obviously, even if they're family members, they're going to have to. The boss is the director and the producer. So you have to go audition. And I would rather get turned down than, say, watching my son or my daughter or son or my nephew or whatever get turned down.

Speaker But we also believe, Jeff and I, that, you know, the opportunity is the important thing. And, you know, so I can say, you know.

Speaker Yeah. You know, you've got this opportunity. But, you know, unfortunately, you have to go with it yourself. If I was up to me, I would pick you. But that's not. The way it works and that can be kind of awkward, but the other option is just not to do it at all. That may be the most comfortable way. But we've never done that. We've always said. I haven't seen my shot. How about showing my daughter, my brother? Whatever. If it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen.

Speaker Well, Jordan also told the story of an after school special with Jeff and how Jeff didn't give her many. Didn't give him any. I you want to use the word breaks. I don't mean that it just didn't treat him in any way. Really made him, you know, step up to it and really made him.

Speaker Yeah. Work, work.

Speaker Work is certainly in you guys. There's no question the feeling of hard work is there and the feeling.

Speaker And I think your word with respect is absolutely visible all the time in both of you and all of you and everything that I've seen of your of your family. And it's a it's a it's a very it's interesting how quickly you notice when it's not there and it's so often forgotten, man. So that quality is something you actually prize is really quite lovely to know and see because it's it's great. Have you got.

Speaker I'm sure you've got some a couple of other just great anecdotal moments. Or maybe, you know, just now then. Little boys. Middle boys.

Speaker I know we talked about quite a few. We might I. Yeah, I'm very happy that, you know, we don't live too far from each other. Chafin actually each other quite a bit. Which is always great. I miss him when he's gone. But, you know, I consider him my my best buddy.

Speaker I think he would say the same. I can actually imagine the two of you as little boys and him just trailing after you. It's massive and quite tiring. And darling, it does seem that sometimes I'm sliding away.

Speaker Yeah, well, I was the only one for eight years. We had one brother, Gary, who died. Yeah. But so Jefferis, you know, he was toddling after me for quite a while.

Speaker You remember. You then remember that death of your brother that would have been between. So that also has given us a different experience for you than him of not having known that, you know.

Speaker Yeah. Probably just a different, different way to register. So you were how old then? Six.

Speaker So, yeah, it's still interesting.

Beau Bridges
Interview Date:
American Archive of Public Broadcasting GUID:
"Beau Bridges, Jeff Bridges: The Dude Abides." American Masters Digital Archive (WNET). 29 Jun. 2010,
(2010, June 29). Beau Bridges, Jeff Bridges: The Dude Abides. [Video]. American Masters Digital Archive (WNET).
"Beau Bridges, Jeff Bridges: The Dude Abides." American Masters Digital Archive (WNET). June 29, 2010. Accessed January 27, 2022


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