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The Controversy Over Wright

This week on the JOURNAL, Bill Moyers spoke with Jeremiah Wright of Trinity United Church of Christ (TUCC) in Chicago and Sen. Barack Obama’s (D-Il) pastor for more than 20 years, who’s been embroiled in controversy.

“When something is taken like a sound bite for a political purpose and put constantly over and over again, looped in the face of the public, that's not a failure to communicate. Those who are doing that are communicating exactly what they wanna do, which is to paint me as some sort of fanatic or as the learned journalist from the New York Times called me, a "wackadoodle"... I think they wanted to communicate that I am unpatriotic, that I am un-American, that I am filled with hate speech, that I have a cult at Trinity United Church of Christ... To put an element of fear and hatred and to stir up the anxiety of Americans who still don't know the African-American tradition, know nothing about the prophetic theology of the African-American experience, who know nothing about the black church, who don't even know how we got a black church.”

Some have argued that TUCC’s “Black Value System,” which emphasizes commitment to the “Black community” and “Black family” rather than to communities and families in general, prioritizes racial identity in an inherently racist way. Arguing that Wright himself might be a racist who holds racial animus against certain groups, commentators have pointed to his statement that “white folks’ greed runs a world in need” and to his accusation that the U.S. government “invented the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color.” Furthermore, Wright’s association with Louis Farrakhan, whose history of anti-semitic and anti-white statements has been condemned, has brought further controversy.

In contrast, some have come to the defense of Wright's rhetoric and his notion of “the prophetic theology of the African American experience” and black liberation theology. In today’s Dallas Morning News, Gerald Britt dismisses “attempts to delegitimize Dr. Wright and Trinity United Christian Church for its Afrocentric theological emphasis” and argues that the black church “has been admired for its powerful presence within the African-American community; its worship is envied for its emotional freedom.”

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The condemnation of Rev. Wright for his comments on AIDS in the black community are taken from impressions. I did not actually hear him say that white people made HIV-AIDS to kill non-Whites. Prehaps he did at some other time. However, your own organization PBS in its program "Secrets of the Dead" shows that Northern European Whites who survived the plague of the Middle Ages and later possess genetic protection from both HIV and AIDS. This may be where this bel;ief comes from. Having worked as an engineer and a scientist I know that we lacked the ability to construct such a virus at the time of its onset.
Now, Obama has finally quit the whole church. Gone. Done. The comments of Wright, plus the new comments of Otis Moss III, and now the outrageous, outlandish rantings of Fr. Michael Pfleger while a visiting speaker at the church -- it was all too much. The Obama Campaign knew their guy had to cut his losses. The American public was finding the church to be more and more extremist. But with so many apparent supporters or Jeremiah Wright, and Moss and Phelger(!?!) to be seen on this weblog, will Obama now be seen as an opportunist, willing to throw his former spiritual advisors under the bus for the sake of appearances, to advance his political campaign? Interesting how the Obama campaign let the news slip out on a weekend, just as the news of the Florida-Michigan delegate resolution was breaking. Do you suppose that Obama submitted a letter of resignation days ago, and the campaign held the story until just the right moment? A "Wright" moment?
I work on organs for MOST of the black churches in Boston & Providence & have NEVER heard any of them preach the Hatred that Wright has for America... No wonder Obama won't salute our flag...
I am still hearing echoes of voices in the media saying that Rev. Wright's comments about the government being responsible for the spread of AIDS in the African-American community (he did not say that the government invented the disease) were little more than paranoid rhetoric. As a young woman living in San Francisco during the 80's, i watched helplessly as many friends died from the disease as the president and government did little to nothing to help us for years. We thought the government was trying to kill us off, and It wasn't much of a stretch to come to that conclusion. I am quite certain that the government did allow AIDS to spread in certain communities; as a matter of fact, I was witness to it. No one cared when it was just drug addicts (often minorities) and Homosexuals dying off. As Americans we have varied histories and experiences; don't be so sure that his fears are unfounded. We weren't all brought up in nice, white-collar, white bread communities, yanno.
Thank you Mr. Moyer, A friend sent me a clip of the piece you did with Dr. Wright. Although I don't understand or agree with all of his views and I certainly do not agree on how he has handled himself in the media, but some of his views is right on target. Dr. Wright has step on some toes and the people who are yelling the loudest are guilty of the deep rooted ugly feelings they have for African Americans. Some of the whites that disagree or just don't care to hear or understand are simply afraid to say out loud; I DONOT WANT TO LOSE MY POWER! This is a power struggle. I thank you Mr. Moyer and I wished we could get you on Prime time telvision. You have spoken the truth for both sides. What do we need to do to get your voice heard loud and clear.
The Children Must Adapt….. BJ, You bring up an interesting hidden truth in the Black community. I believe Pastors like Rev. Wright help these children realize that they come from a strong people, that they can achieve greatness and to believe in themselves. It is this truth that you mention, that I believe is a huge problem and why in some cases the children do not make it past the 11th grade. We must begin to discuss this openly because it is my belief that we lose some of these children during what I will call the awakening period or transformation period. Some of our children do grow up wishing they were White and this may be an issue more in the suburbs than in the city. I believe by the time they get to 6th and 7th grade it is a determining factor time on what course in life this child will experience. While their ancestors suffered greatly, they now have a chance to reach for the stars. These children deal with or experience some of what I listed below before the 8th grade or they have a higher chance to be on a separate course in life that...
If Barrack Obama became our President, nothing would please me more than if he reconciled with Jeremiah Wright and appointed him either Director of Homeland Security/National Intelligence or Ambassador to the United Nations. Wright provides the EXPERIENCE we need. Hell, Clinton or McCain could also benefit from Rev. Wright in their administration! He could remind everyone how public office remains a sacred trust even after the required separation of church and state. Posted by: Jack Martin Amen!
If Barrack Obama became our President, nothing would please me more than if he reconciled with Jeremiah Wright and appointed him either Director of Homeland Security/National Intelligence or Ambassador to the United Nations. Wright provides the EXPERIENCE we need. Hell, Clinton or McCain could also benefit from Rev. Wright in their administration! He could remind everyone how public office remains a sacred trust even after the required separation of church and state.
May God watch over those suffering from Great turmoil and disasters. My heart and my tears continues to be with them and my prayers are with them every minute of the day that more will be saved from this tragic moment in time across the ocean. We are their brothers and sisters today. God bless their children and save their children and families.
Let them speak part II: When we the people challenge you on subjects such as Where did Aids come from? and why is it the the Black population has the highest rate and why was Africa cited as the origin? Is it some genetic reason that Blacks and gays have such a high concentration of the disease or is this information propaganda also? When we point out our arrogance, get the best and the brightest or better yet get the common man to discuss what they believe. There is no wrong or right answer. While we waste time on issues that don't aid us in our day to day living we missed the chance to make a change in our future. There is a pattern in the political realm of America and it is no accident that we are discussing recessions, depression and redistribution of wealth in my opinion. Living through our economy for the last 40 years and analyzing our the political scandals and decision, I have noticed a pattern. Ask the question. Who is in power when the stock market, financial market, housing market, savings and loan market, oil market, accounting market, as well as other entities that...
Let them speak Part I: Let me say that you all have brought up good points and I am liberated to be able to debate and discuss issues that affect the American people. We must realize that in less than a week or so, Rev. Wright exposed the hidden issues that many of the “Have mores”, “elite society”, “concentration of power ‘Ole Great ones’” or “special membership” or whoever this few / 10 % group of people are and the special interest groups do not want discussed in the public debate arena. Anytime the injustices that I mention on 5/11 are discussed, it puts a segment of the population or a special group of people on the defense and thereby making it impossible for them to drive the public debate or discussion to advance their own agenda or propaganda. The ones who blindly follow these “elites” believe they are a card carrying member, who will benefit by advancing the agenda and arguments of the few in power. If you bring up something off the subject, they can not debate if it is off Script from what their favorite commentator handed them that day.. If mainstream, America is discussing real problems...
gaprddesc (5/11) lists many continuing injustices and rightfully asks for reason; Moises (4/26) may be venting passionately rather than offering "scientific" discourse, but if you have no comprehension of American apartheid or compassion for those who suffered under Jim Crow, then you're suffering from snowblindness; d'ann (4/26) and others have appropriately pointed to American history as one way to understand Rev. Wright's apparent diatribes; that's where I will add another thought, specifically regarding the "chickens have come home to roost sermon" for the 'love it or leave it position' taken by John (5/13) and others who, I believe, are not looking past the propoganda machine. The context for Rev. Wright's sermon, if one were permitted or willing to listen to it, would have been made plain. For just a few historical examples: (1) The British enlisted the aid of Arabia against the Ottoman Empire in World War I. Remember Lawrence? He was able to forge that alliance because he was authorized to promise independence to the Arabs following defeat of the Ottomans. At Versailles, the British broke that promise. The United States has inherited Britain's role and reputation in the region. (2) Do you know that contemporary Iraq was created...
Black liberation theology is not racist. Check your facts. Dr. King is from the same tradition. I guess Dr. King was a racist as well. Check your facts again. Obviously you know nothing about the history of liberation theology and have not heard Dr. Wright's sermons in full. Dr. Wright has not criticized any other religion or race. Having pride in Blackness is not racist. BJ
I think that William Andrews’ post of May 7 on this blog eloquently gets to the crux of the Rev. Wright controversy, wherein Mr. Andrews states “It offends Americans that he includes the United States among the perpetrators of illegitimate state violence…the evidence is of no importance. All that matters is the comfortable assumption that the United States uses violence responsibly and only as a last resort. There is no greater offense than disturbing that assumption and that comfort.” I have seen that offense, face to face, while marching in an anti-war protest and being called a terrorist by a counter-protester, because I carried a sign that read “War is a Racket” – a quote from Brigadier General Smedley Butler. Here in the United States of Amnesia, as Gore Vidal so aptly puts it, there is little knowledge among the general populace of our history, and what is taught is largely sanitized, and those people on whom our actions have been and continue to be inflicted, both here and abroad, are largely dismissed. There is a correlation between the African American’s enslaved ancestor, whose only record of existence can be found on the master’s estate inventory with the hogs and...
We still do not know if Obama believes or subscribes to Black Liberation Theology. It matters to me if he does hold those views of blacks and whites and will take it into the White House with him. He has rid himself of Jeremiah Wright for other things said - not because Wright is a Black Liberation Theologian. Oh that subject, Obama has been mute.
Correction: I meant eugenics was practiced in the U.S. and African American woman where sterilized, most times without their knowledge.
Charles: African Americans have very good reason not to trust the government and link it to HIV/AIDS. The Tuskegee experiment was not stopped in 1972 and their was a cure found in 1947. And eugenics was practiced on African American women. Most times without their knowledge. This knowledge and mistrust of the government is simply passed down from our elders. The U.S. is all too good at trying to cover up so many injustices that not only happened to Black Americans but native Americans and immigrants as well. I have heard stories of African American males getting castrated as well in the past. Dr. Wright is not political campaigning for Obama and so what if he is, he has a member/ex-member that is running for President. Dr. Wright is trying to instill pride in African American culture. Other cultures do the same thing. Don't you know that Black children grow up wishing they were white at some periods in their life. Some how they are getting the message in school and abroad that being Black is bad and being White is good. How? Dr. Wright speaks truth when he says "Different not deficient." Other cultures in America instill pride...
BJ - I am sorry. I don't equate "misspeaking" with what became a central thesis of a prepared speech to the largest dinner audience in America, broadcast on national television. Wright is thoroughly unrepresentative of what I view as mainstream Christianity in America. So is Reverend Hagee. I have attended a wide variety of Protestant and Catholic churches, and the kind of political rhetoric that seems to be routinely utilized by Jeremiah Wright and John Hagee seems to me to be extreme. It is puzzling and disturbing to me, the number of commenters who have said that Wright's most controversial views are actually shared by significant percentages of the African-American community; that what he is saying is not felt to be radical; and that the amount of political speechmaking and secular history theorizing is not unusual for any black church. If indeed that is really the case, then I'd say that all churches -- the few white churches like Hagee's and the the many black churches like Wright -- ought to do a whole lot more Christianity and a whole lot less political campaigning.
The Sacrifical lamb. Rev Wright did nothing more then review History! Granted the 'Deveolpment of AIDs' may appear to be 'off the Wall' to anyone who has avoid our Gov'ts activities when it comes to ANY minority. But one thing they can Not deny (if the return just back to the Reagna Regime0 Is that it was intentionally allowed to flourish in the minority Communties- And which is more criminal the investion or it's spread? I was never offended by Wright, in fact he could have gotten this 'Recovered Catholic' back in the Pew. I left Heirarchial Organized Religion because it constantly was a odds with what was Written in the Bible.They spewed hate, or just Judgement on 'Creations', They determined what would be their punishment, They demanded our undying loyality (worship) of Their interpretations, They even decided who would be saved & who would not. Blasphamy & heresay.Judging the 'Almighty's 'Creation' placing themselves above to levy judgements and sentencing, demanding they be worshipped like Idols and proclaiming divine knowledge regarding what an omnipotent being has planned for the great Design. Mere Moratls claiming to be 'Holier than Thou' not just US but their own maker. Evangelicals like Hagee...
Nicholas A Loisos: Could it be that you can't understand how Bill Moyers reached his point of view because you are ONLY seeing things from YOUR OWN point of view? Clearly the media took what Dr. Wright said out of context. And this is not the first time the media has tried to ruin someone for their own agenda. Black, White or Brown. They are supposed to report the news unbiased. Not use sound bites to sum up what a person is about. Bill Moyers allowed us to see who Dr. Wright was and all he has accomplished to go along with the sound bites. BJ
Charles, Dr. Wright simply miss spoke in his understanding of what Dr. Hale was trying to say in her book. No big deal, people miss speak all of the time. Again, you are looking for some reason not to like the man and link him to Senator Obama. Dr. Wright not trusting the government and linking the government to HIV/AIDS and the demise of Black folks throughout the diaspora has nothing to do with his patriotism. He was not goddamning the American people, he was goddamning American policy (the bearucrats)for allowing innocent people to die due to arrogance. He is a pastor and this is typical from a religious man. Scripture talks about God punishing and damning people for sinful things all through it. America is not some all holy place that has never practiced terrorism. Isn't that why we go to church to pray for forgiveness of our sins etc? BJ
The level of respect I have for Bill Moyers suffered some fraying when I clearly heard him blame the media for R. Wright's statements. This is a clear case of a person with an incredibly twisted perspective of the world, which is more obvious as one listens to more of his "sermons." He is an extremist on the same level of a KKK person, intent on distortion for political agenda. To say that it is disappointing that Bill M does not see this, is a vast understatement, one that I can only attribute perhaps to the aging process, catching up to him. I cannot see how else he can reach this point of view.
Bill: Did you REALLY comment that the media was responsible for what came out of Rev. Wright's mouth...??? *Shaking my head in disbelief...!!! THa would be like blaming the ambulance for the death of the patient. Granted...the media loves to cover (even enflame...???) controversy, but to say they are the root cause of fomenting his responses. Respectfully, there is NO agreement. BOTH Rev. Wright and the press should aim for higher values and practices that demonstrate them.
Right now, as the hour grows near...we need to make a clear, concise, wise and unobstructed choice as to which Democratic candidate has the best chance of beating McCain...That's just the bare-naked truth of the matter...The alternative is unacceptable...This country has been damaged so severely in the last 7+ years by the current administration that I personally feel we need someone who's been there before or very close to it...The past elections scared me to my core...The imbecilic 'sheep' of this country, with the help of those who threw their vote away on the likes of a narcissist-Nader (or chose not to vote at all (which was inexcusable, considering the circumstances and importance of what was hanging in the balance 'OF OUR CHILDREN'S FUTURES!!' Or if you place ANY value on human life, whatsoever)...And lastly...& most importantly: 'How America allowed the (election,HA!) to be completely hijacked, held hostage, then outright stolen (or bought and paid for...either way, it was done openly for all-to-see, regardless of how illegal)...Just the simple fact that people, who have audacity to call themselves 'Americans' stood by and watched one of the most morally and ethically bankrupt instances in history take place 'without so much as...
Kahale - Let's just take one example. One example that does not and should not rely on soundbites, but is best understood in terms of detailed and lengthy context. At his speech to the NAACP in Detroit, Rev. Wright went out of his way to acknowledge the professional work of Dr. Janice Hale of Wayne State University in Detroit. Wright then proceeded, in his own, uninterrupted words, to ramble on for four or five or more paragraphs about the differences between the Right-brain and Left-brain learning differences between white and black children. As I sat and watched and listened to Wright's speech, broadcast live and uninterrupted by both Fox and CNN, I thought to myself, "This is a disaster. An unmitigated disaster for the Obama Campaign, and for Rev. Wright personally." I felt the same way as when I saw (also live), Howard Dean's "I have a scream" speech that marekd the disastrous end of his own Presidential speech. I thought, "No white person could ever say such things on television without the severest and most deserved criticism for racist junk science." But at the time, Rev. Wright's comments didn't seem to sink in with many commentators. I was puzzled...
Please go on youtube or whatever you choose & PLEASE tell me what was INcorrect about what this man said & how it DID NOT come out of & tie into the Biblical Scriptures! Now make sure you watch the WHOLE THING/SERMON & put everything in CONTEXT (con=with or within; text=written or spoken body) before you truly form an opinion. If after that, you understand, but you STILL have issue with his words or the choice thereof, then say what you will. However, don't act COMLETELY ignorant, or at least look in & around the BANDWAGON before you COMPLETELY jump on board!!! Thank you.
Please go on youtube or whatever you choose & PLEASE tell me what was INcorrect about what this man said & how it DID NOT come out of & tie into the Biblical Scriptures! Now make sure you watch the WHOLE THING/SERMON & put everything in CONTEXT (con=with or within; text=written or spoken body) before you truly form an opinion. If after that, you understand, but you STILL have issue with his words or the choice thereof, then say what you will. However, don't act COMLETELY ignorant, or at least look in & around the BANDWAGON before you COMPLETELY jump on board!!! Thank you.
First of all a preacher shouldn't be damning America to its parishiners if he doesn't like it go live somewhere else no one is forcing him to stay. He said alot of anti-american remarks and Obama should have denounced him from day one thats one reason I will not support him. I just can't trust him there is something about him that is not trustworthy from the people he dealt with to never really answering honestly questions about his relations with these anti-americans. Every church I've been to has never cut down blacks or america and if this isn't racial I don't know what is . We are talking about the next President here not a grocery clerk lets get real. I hope Hillary goes Independant and takes away his chances from becoming the first anti-american President.
Are John F. Kennedy or Robert F. Kennedy the kind of "Catholic politicians" you are talking about? John Kerry? Teddy Kennedy? Patrick Kennedy? Dick Durbin? Pat Leahy? How about Robert Casey, Jr. (D-PA), Barbara Mikulski (D-MD), Robert Menendez (D-NJ), Mary Landrieu (D-LA), Ken Salazar (D-CO), Tom Harkin (D-IA), Maria Cantwell (D-WA), Patty Murray (D-WA), Jack Reed (D-RI), Christopher Dodd (CT-D) or Claire McCaskill (D-MO)? All "Catholic politicians," every one. Should they all take responsibility for "travesties" in the priesthood? It seems to me that this Comments thread has jumped the tracks in terms of commentary on the methods of Bill Moyers' journalism, which is what I had presumed was its focus.
I think it is unfortunate that all this attention is being given to this man and His opinions. I wonder how many Catholic politicians knew their priest were molesting little childrens all the years that they sat in the pews and applauded their speeches?? Did they NOT know what their pastors or priest were capable of; are they not responsible for their behavior??? If they feel they are not responsible; then how can they blame Mr. Oboma for what another adult does; says or thinks. Some one should ask them what portion of responsibility do they share in the travesty that has affected so many children by the hands of those that many thought they could trust; like their Priest. It is a shame America; because you do not want to take responsibility for your ancestors behavior toward Africans whom were forced into slavery; but you waste so much energy on this pathetic issue in a presidential race. I think all politicians pastors should investigated if this is how it is going to be. Let see what the research shows; and how many have sorted backgrounds that they never knew about; but sat in the pews weekly.
Correction: Applaud should be replaced Apall or outraged, sicken.
Charles, It is Rev. Wright’s job to inform his congregation of those things he believes are true. It is our duty as citizens to study, research and explore whether Tuskegee incident could ever happen again. It is our duty that we research, study, confirm whether designer diseases could be created to target a certain race of people. If during your research, you find that those people in 1972 was a unique people and that it is not happening today, then it is your duty to debate this issue and inform the public. However, those of you that hear something, then dismiss immediately, as if it never happened, have no place in public debate. How can you debate someone who lacks knowledge of history and purposely stick their head in the sand and ignore the past? I'm sure that people were offended and appalled when it was stated that Black men were being purposely infected with syphilis and that the U.S. government allowed this along with the Public Health System to continue for years. I am sure they were outraged as Americans to think that someone would even say that the government had the cure but did not treat black men...
Can anybody explain what good there is in telling the members of Trinity United Church of Christ that HIV was an invention of the U.S. government? Sen. Obama says that such statements "are rightly offensive to most American." So can anyone explain why Wright would ever have said it in the first place, why he wouldn't retract it and apologize, and why he would be defended for having said it? Again, I ask specifically, what good does such a statement do for the churchgoers at Trinity? Even Bill Moyers is repelled by the Wright allegations as to an AIDS conspiracy, right?
If in fact it is true that fear is the motivation for the demonization of African American, Black and Negro Reverends, what is it that they fear? Angry “white men”? 1. Do they fear redlining? Being steered to homes that are in bad areas, dangerous plants and electrical lines? 2. Do they fear walking in a bank with a better paying job, better credit score, and greater track record only to be denied or given enough to stay in debt, while their friend from other race, agrees to the experiment, applies for the loan that you did with lessor credit score, lessor paying job and they get the loan plus more money and you are denied or given just enough to stay in debt? 3. Do they fear a doctor telling them that their pain is in their head and let them continue to suffer and in some case die of something as simple as a cold? 3. Do they fear driving while white? 4. Do they fear that the demographic make up of the jails will change to a lighter color? 5. Do they fear being denied a job because of their color? Or Denied a position because they...
Charles, I don't think people really care about what Hagee said. If the media made it a top story and ratings went up then all the news stations would talk about Hagee. The truth is, I have never seen any white reverend demonized in the media, ever. Not that I watch that much but I am pretty sure that the only reverends demonized in the media are Black. If Hagee wanted to explain he could contact the media himself. I am sure that the media would not miss the opportunity. Did you ever consider that Hagee did not want to address the issue? He has no reason to defend his words because the media is calling for it. Obama'08 BJ
I think the problem here is that people are using the Dr. Wright thing to have some reason to not trust Senator Obama because of his race. The media, especially the Fox News channel are basically creating fear in the people about Obama. Senator Obama should not have to answer any questions about Dr. Wright. It had nothing to do with the campaign and most Americans were tired of it and wanted to hear about the real issues that affect their lives. What did Dr. Wright say that hurt people? What did he say that offended people? We have a right to question, debate and disagree with government policy as we are tax payers and have a constitutional right to speak our minds. Senator Obama simply needed to end the focus on Dr. Wright so the media could move on from it. He answered the questions about Dr. Wright and the media has to move on now (thank goodness) because we know that if he did not end it the media would have milked it forever. What did Dr. Wright say that peeves you so? And how does that reflect on Senator Obama? I think Dr. Wright spoke out to...
It is interesting and very disappointing to see all media, commentaries and pundits spin the Rev. Wright words to be negative and even with the truth spoken the story was still spinned as a negative. I was disappointed to see Barack Obama fall for the rhetoric by the media, pundits and commentaries. Why did he feel the need to denounce a man of Rev. Wright's caliber. Group Think has taken over the media and we no longer get the news unfiltered. Stop asking the question Media! This new style the media has with asking stupid questions instead of reporting does not fool us after this last event any longer. You matter as well go ahead and say what you believe on any subject because you truly showed you colors on the Rev. Wright’s prophetic sermon and the question at the bias press club. The media and it’s pundits have been exposed. The conservatives start at 8:00am in the morning until after 6:00pm propagating lies, half untruths and public hatred toward the black race and nothing is said. One Black man stands up and dares to challenge the establishment and ruling party and they tar and feather him. It is because...
BJ, are you saying that Obama's "kicking Wright to the curb" was somehow done with a wink and a nod? That it is somehow understood to have been an insincere denunciation by Obama? Something that he just had to do, as a politician, as Wright himself has suggested? With Obama secretly agreeing that Wright's comments were not that offensive at all? If so, what does all of that tell us about Obama? On the other hand, if Obama truly thought that Wright had crossed a line of decency, but has somehow forgiven Wright after denouncing him, how should we feel about the offensive comments by the Reverend John Hagee? Should Bill Moyers be offering Reverend Hagee a cahnce to explain himself in a face-to-face interview?
I am not mad at Dr. Wright or Senator Obama. I feel that Dr. Wright is serving his community well and only has to answer to God. Senator Obama denounced some of the things he said. The reason he denounced Dr. Wright is because he felt that Dr. Wright did not apologize for possibly offending people. I think Dr. Wright really offended Senator Obama at the National Press club interview. He did say some things that I thought were unnecessary. But as humans we are imperfect and I understand. When he read his speech, it was very good. "....different not deficient...." But when he answered questions he was on the defensive and it was not a good look for him. Whether Senator Obama denounced Dr. Wright or not it still hurt his campaign. It was a double edge sword. On one hand he was going to alienate white voters who fed into the news loops and on the other end he was going to alienate black voters for denouncing Dr. Wright. In the end I like that he gave Dr. Wright a chance to speak for himself before kicking him to the curb. Obama '08 BJ
I really don't get it -- if Reverend Wright was speaking such profound wisdom and if "most of what he said was true" (interesting phraseology), why did Senator Obama denounce him? Particularly after Obama said, "I could no more denounce him than my own white grandmother." Should Wright be denounced? Because that is what Obama did. Or should Obama be denounced for thowing his pastor overboard? It has to be one or the other, right?
To those of you who have commented so negatively about the Reverend Wright and see some sort of conspiracy by Senator Obama, I have only one thing to say to all of you. Your racism and blindness is overwhelming. The double standard here is also very troubling. It seems pretty obvious that White preachers can say anything they want, even condoning murder of blacks by the Ku Klux Klan, murder of doctors or perform abortions, of Catholics and Jews, yet Reverend Wright cannot do the same. I am white and quite frankly ashamed of this country for the way it treats people who are not white. If those of you who have made such racist comments consider yourselves christians, then you need to take a long hard look at yourselves. Most of what Reverend Wright said was true - and the truth hurts. It's time to take a long hard look at the history of the policies of this country which have been nothing short of devastating to those less fortunate. Shame on all of you
To those of you who have commented so negatively about the Reverend Wright and see some sort of conspiracy by Senator Obama, I have only one thing to say to all of you. Your racism and blindness is overwhelming. The double standard here is also very troubling. It seems pretty obvious that White preachers can say anything they want, even condoning murder of blacks by the Ku Klux Klan, murder of doctors or perform abortions, of Catholics and Jews, yet Reverend Wright cannot do the same. I am white and quite frankly ashamed of this country for the way it treats people who are not white. If those of you who have made such racist comments consider yourselves christians, then you need to take a long hard look at yourselves. Most of what Reverend Wright said was true - and the truth hurts. It's time to take a long hard look at the history of the policies of this country which have been nothing short of devastating to those less fortunate. Shame on all of you
Many of Rev. Wright's ideas remind me of Malcom X, Stokely Carmichael, and the Black Panthers. Too bad our country has no memory, especially for truth. I'm not black, but I have always appreciated those who speak their mind while they actually take care of their community. Obama would seem the bigger man (to me) if he had actually stepped away from Wright years ago. Now he seems rather the self-serving "politician" in his remarks about Wright. Geese. I respect Wright more than Obama for being truthful.
Explain then, Ralph, the differing treatment of Wright and Hagee by Moyers. With Wright, it was a warm, softly-lit conversation between two people who so clearly were in sync with each other that it was more of a therapy session than a a hard political interview. With Hagee, it was an arm's-length hit piece. Soundbites of the most inflammatory rhetoric, no interview of Hagee giving him a chance to explain himself, etc. I'm more than confident that I am the one being even-handed in this analysis, and that all the Obama supporters among the Moyers viewership are the ones that cannot see the imbalance.
C'mon, Charles. To say that there's no substantive difference between the constant barrage of inflamemotainment propaganda from Fox, the explicitly hateful and distorted inanity of Hannity in particular, and that of Moyers sit down interview with Rev. Wright is, well, silly. Moyers lifelong commitment to the democratic party and liberal social principles notwithstanding, his discipline to high journalistic standards and openness to other viewpoints is what defines him and so inflames the narrowness of the rigid right. Fox, on the other hand, with it's diatribe force and repetitive, agenda driven content is not only a parody of journalism, but of itself. We're it not for the likes of Moyers, the desolation of broadcast journalism would be a grim fait accompli.
BJ, I appreciate Fox News because it is such a good antidote to the rest of television news. And Fox, in particular, is unafraid to criticize our PBS and NPR networks (even as Fox News employs Mara Liasson of NPR and Juan Williams of NPR). I have not utilized this blog to campaign for any candidate as you (Obama '08) have. I have tried to keep the focus on Bill Moyers' journalism standards, which is precisely the focus and function of this Comments page. Neither Hagee nor Wright would have merited national debate but for the fact that both McCain and Obama sought the two pastors' support and blessing. I kind of wish that neither candidate had involved themselves with either pastor. But my greater point wsa that there was no substantive difference between what Bill Moyers, a loyal Democrat and a very liberal television personality did, and what Sean Hannity an upwardly-mobile conservative ideologue, did. Moyers wanted his viewers to be scared by Hagee soundbites, as he tried to link Hagee to McCain. Sean Hannity tried to scare his viewers with the Wright sermon soundbites, as he linked Wright to Obama. Condemn both equally if you want to, but...
Charles, You must be a Fox News supporter. How is this one interview compared to months of Dr.Wright being looped over and over again in the media. He only tried to show the real man behind the loops. I have never heard of Hagee, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Clearly the Fox News network is trying to change the way people see Obama because they have their own agenda. Anybody could have a pastor or similar in their faith that may have unflattering opinions about the government. So what, shouldn't we all question our government. You don't have to agree with everything your pastor says, especially if it is politics. Give me a break. I have had co-workers, friends, and family that have said controversial things. What are we supposed to kick them out of our lives because of it? No! Because you know deep down they are good people who have good hearts. That is what Mr. Bill Moyers showed us with his interview with Dr. Wright. Obama '08 BJ
Here is a link that some Bill Moyers viewers might be familiar with. It is a link to this very website: Bill Moyers' carefully-produced report on the group, Christians United for Israel, and Pastor John Hagee. http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/03072008/profile.html Note the use of the video production tools that Bill Moyers has decried in the case of Rev. Jeremiah Wright. In the Hagee story, Moyers himself apparently never spoke to Hagee at all. There was no chance for Hagee to speak without his words being edited by Moyers' producers. They used the most inflammatory "soundbites" that they could find on Hagee. I don't much care for Hagee, just as i don't care for Jeremiah Wright, but I do know what Wright would say if he had been put in the position of Hagee on the Moyers program. He'd have asked Moyers -- "Have you been to my church? Have you heard any of my sermons? The WHOLE sermons? Have you ever given me the chance to come onto your program to speak for myself?" As I have stated before, the notion that Bill Moyers represents some journalistic ideal is nonsense. Bill Moyers is nothing more and nothing less than a left-wing version of...
LunchAdmin: You not fooling anyone with this crap link. Everybody knows it's a fake, bigot. You're anti Obama and that is fine but when you start making up stuff just to feed your own bigotry, that is truly pathetic. Obama '08 BJ
Beware the terrible simplifiers? You are one such simplifier Mr. Moyers. Did John McCain campaign from Reverend John Hagee’s pulpit? No HE DID NOT. Did Barack Obama do just that from Reverend Jeremiah Wright’s pulpit? Yes HE DID. Did John McCain distribute pamphlets claiming him to be a “committed Christian” complete with photos of him praying in Hagee’s church? No HE DID NOT. Did Barack Obama produce such a pamphlet complete with photographs praying within Wright’s church? Why yes … YES HE DID, and in so doing he violated campaign guidelines – but that’s an issue needing a separate blog post. See the pamphlet here. http://departmentoflunch.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/pander.jpg So you know what Mr. Moyers? Barack Obama ignored the Constitution’s ban on religious tests for federal officeholders; he put his preacher and his faith out there for everyone to judge. John McCain has been endorsed by a few racist crackpots, but so far he has not worshiped with them or written books praising their message. In no way do I write this in support of John McCain. It’s just that your argument that black preachers in this case are getting the short end of the stick does NOT hold up.
Mr. Moyers: Thank you for your very informative piece on Rev. Wright. I, as a Black American, wish that all Anglo Americans could sit down with someone that they may not agree with and seek the truth and the real reasoning behind their position. You do so and as I watched you over the years. You seem to be able to get to the root of the controversy with honest questions with a clear intent. I taped your program on that day and on the following day, had a friend, Anglo & staunch Catholic, start off with comments about that racist Rev. Wright. I invited him to sit down and view your program. I was dissapointed that he only viewed half, but what really made my day, was when he said was "In context the man is telling the truth and is teaching from the Bible" That really made me feel good to see a mind changed and the truth let out. All I can say is keep shining your light and please shine some in the direction of our people in the governance of our country, our clergy that want to talk about " this week's ladies tea", Our...
Racism, Jim, is harboring hate against other races, not supporting your own in a reasonable, and in this case, in a unique candidacy. And, you're overstating the percentage, there are many people of color that support the opposition.
Why can 99% of afro-americans vote for obamas and not be labeled as obvious racist? Yet when whites for for clintons they are considered racist? Double Standard
The odd thing to me, William, is that Wright's historical expertise seems so suspect on so many other dimensions that I am not sure that he is credible on any of them. For instance, Wright finds time to talk about the U.S. nuclear attacks on Nagasaki and Hiroshima, but at the same time butchers history with the urban myth that the U.S. invited the devastating sneak attack on Pearl harbor. I also wonder why, if Wright is such a prophet of peace, he wouldn't find time to mention the Japanese war crimes, the Bataan Death March and the rape of Nanking? I am very much struck by the amount of politics that Wright has invovled himself in. That may be somewhat normal in the black church, I don't know. I do know that it is more or less required that any politician seeking election in any large American city must pass through the approval of the city's black ministers. In every church I have gone to, politics were less than 1% of the church's mission. I know that there are the Pat Robertsons and Falwells and Hagees of the nation, but those are NOT representative of mainstream Protestantism and Catholocism...
For the real offense of Jeremiah Wright one need look no further than Bill Moyers's interview with him. In that interview, he provides a fairly scholarly critique of state violence and compares it with other forms of terrorism. He says that violence that destroys innocence people, whether conducted by the state or by free-lance terrorists, is not pleasing to God. In keeping with the prophetic tradition of the Old and New Testaments, he points this out in his sermons. It offends Americans that he includes the United States among the perpetrators of illegitimate state violence. He has obviously thought a great deal about this, and he can eloquently array the evidence, from the fire bombing of Tokyo, to the saturation bombing in Southeast Asia, to the attacks on Sadr City today. But the evidence is of no importance. All that matters is the comfortable assumption that the United States uses violence responsibly and only as a last resort. There is no greater offense than disturbing that assumption and that comfort.
To Mr. Bill Moyers: Thanks again for offering some insight and perspective into the media's spin and distractions. Your show is a bright beacon in the darkness of the information blackout we have in this country over issues that matter to all of us who live in the U.S. To Mr. Charles Brown: If you aren't a “neocon”, you must at least be a stauch supporter of the Bush Administration. It's becoming clear why you have such an interest in attacking both Obama and Wright. They’re both imperfect humans and as such will not be 100% correct all the time. None of us are 100% all the time. However, Jeremiah Wright isn't running for office. He's taking a stand, wrong, right or indifferent. You give away your position when you make absurd comments like these: “As for any "government lie" about a link between the Saddam Hussein government and the attacks of 9/11, I don't know what supposed "lies" that Wright was talking about. I've never heard a member of the Bush administration claim such a link. I have heard the Bush administration discuss links to terrorism within the old Baathist Iraqi regime, but only becuase there were such links...
Only Bill would have to try to fix an interview after the fact by commenting on it and trying to spin it in a different direction. The people who were interested already saw the interview, Bill, and it is way too late to try to fix your poor interview skills with even worse commentary.
It is very interesting how sensitive Americans are w/Wright's comments. Our history speaks for itself and I pray that we will not loose our freedom of speech in the future. There are many angry Blacks in this country regardless of the their professional titles or economic status and that is the reality of the situation. Enough is enough and "it is" time for change. It is time for blacks to speak up and speak out to fellow Amercians about the continued racism in "our" country. As a Christian, despite my imperfection, I am inspired by Rev.Wright and it is not about color. It is about his courage to take on the ever growing beast in America that has the potential to devour everything that has made America what it is today. Study revelations folks. Study our history folks. Now, as for Blacks, we have so much to be angry about and I do believe that if it were not for religous leaders such as Rev. Wright that provide an enviorment for "honest" conversation, the rage will only get worse. There is nothing equal about our society and many of our leaders have done little to bridge the gap between all...
Dear Bill, Thank you so much for such insightful comment on Rev Wright; we all could almost be fooled again by a media machine... Please keep up the great efforts!!! America is a great country with great people; given time and good work she will shine again. First we need to find all the root causes that's killing our country, be it anyone, or any group. Who is benefiting from the pain of the majority; who has hijacked our policy, foreign and domestic, our finances, our values... Our real enemy is only a tiny few manipulating us right here living at the top and behind the scenes. Good people have to unite and make them pay, dearly. Think for ourselves! Take care
Dear Mr. Moyers, I would just like to say I am disappointed with your toothless and inept interviewing style made evident during your interview with Rev. Wright. You just sat there and nodded sympathetically while the esteemed reverend bitterly complained about being treated "unfairly" by the media. Let me get this straight! Rev. Wright is free to espouse and express any beliefs, however unpopular. Indeed, his holding and expressing those beliefs is essential to the functioning of our democracy. What makes him a brazen hypocrite is his claim (stated or implied) that by virtue of him being a black clergyman he and his statements are exempt from scrutiny, criticism and ridicule. When his remarks first surfaced, a lot of people perceived them as a direct attack against their values. Naturally, those offended fought back. Facing scathing criticism Rev. Wright appeared on your show and instead of defending of what he so passionately believes in on the merits, he began to whine. As far as I know there is nothing in the Constitution that prohibits criticism of a clergyman's or layman's statements made in the public domain. I find this attempt to justify and advance one's political agenda using religion repulsive...
Dear Mr. Moyers, I would just like to say I am disappointed with your toothless and inept interviewing style made evident during your interview with Rev. Wright. You just sat there and nodded sympathetically while the esteemed reverend bitterly complained about being treated "unfairly" by the media. Let me get this straight! Rev. Wright is free to espouse and express any beliefs, however unpopular. Indeed, his holding and expressing those beliefs is essential to the functioning of our democracy. What makes him a brazen hypocrite is his claim (stated or implied) that by virtue of him being a black clergyman he and his statements are exempt from scrutiny, criticism and ridicule. When his remarks first surfaced, a lot of people perceived them as a direct attack against their values. Naturally, those offended fought back. Facing scathing criticism Rev. Wright appeared on your show and instead of defending of what he so passionately believes in on the merits, he began to whine. As far as I know there is nothing in the Constitution that prohibits criticism of a clergyman's or layman's statements made in the public domain. I find this attempt to justify and advance one's political agenda using religion repulsive...
Dear Mr. Moyers, I would just like to say I am disappointed with your toothless and inept interviewing style made evident during your interview with Rev. Wright. You just sat there and nodded sympathetically while the esteemed reverend bitterly complained about being treated "unfairly" by the media. Let me get this straight! Rev. Wright is free to espouse and express any beliefs, however unpopular. Indeed, his holding and expressing those beliefs is essential to the functioning of our democracy. What makes him a brazen hypocrite is his claim (stated or implied) that by virtue of him being a black clergyman he and his statements are exempt from scrutiny, criticism and ridicule. When his remarks first surfaced, a lot of people perceived them as a direct attack against their values. Naturally, those offended fought back. Facing scathing criticism Rev. Wright appeared on your show and instead of defending of what he so passionately believes in on the merits, he began to whine. As far as I know there is nothing in the Constitution that prohibits criticism of a clergyman's or layman's statements made in the public domain. I find this attempt to justify and advance one's political agenda using religion repulsive...
Dear Mr. Moyers, I would just like to say I am disappointed with your toothless and inept interviewing style made evident during your interview with Rev. Wright. You just sat there and nodded sympathetically while the esteemed reverend bitterly complained about being treated "unfairly" by the media. Let me get this straight! Rev. Wright is free to espouse and express any beliefs, however unpopular. Indeed, his holding and expressing those beliefs is essential to the functioning of our democracy. What makes him a brazen hypocrite is his claim (stated or implied) that by virtue of him being a black clergyman he and his statements are exempt from scrutiny, criticism and ridicule. When his remarks first surfaced, a lot of people perceived them as a direct attack against their values. Naturally, those offended fought back. Facing scathing criticism Rev. Wright appeared on your show and instead of defending of what he so passionately believes in on the merits, he began to whine. As far as I know there is nothing in the Constitution that prohibits criticism of a clergyman's or layman's statements made in the public domain. I find this attempt to justify and advance one's political agenda using religion repulsive...
The good Reverend Wright speaks the truth and to many the truth hurts. The people who react out of anger, hate, and fear must be in an emission of guilt!
Without getting too much into the merits of Reverend John Hagee versus Reverend Jeremiah Wright, I still think that as it pertains to Bill Moyers, there is a remarkable double standard. On the one hand, Bill Moyers actually did a story on Reverend John Hagee, and Moyers did the things that he chastised the corporate media for: he used soundbites of Hagee for his own editorial purposes. Moyers did not interview Hagee, and he did not give Hagee a chance to speak more openly and at length, as with Wright, to put himself "in context." So beyond any serious question, Bill Moyers has acted precisely as a left-wing analogue to Fox News, baiting the opposition with sound bites for his personal benefit. Speaking for myself alone, I find Hagee and Wright to be equally abhorrent. I'd take no pleasure in attending either one of their respective churches. But it is also clear to me that the soundbite versions of Hagee and Wright are plenty accurate enough. Neither one of them gets any better with hearing more of their comments. And it is a huge conceit on the part of Bill Moyers if he can't see what he's done on his...
In his efforts to give Wright a fair and even-handed treatment, I feel Mr. Moyer's has perhaps bent a bit too far, so much that he's glossed over or ignored a few of the key issues. As but one possible example, I believe many people were in fact NOT all that shocked or insulted by the basic idea behind the "chickens coming home to roost" sermon. No intelligent person can argue with the premise that a country takes actions and must therefore expect certain consequences. What WAS shocking and insulting was that fact that Wright and at least a few in his congregation appeared almost joyous that chickens were coming home to roost. The applause and cheers were quite loud! What exactly were they applauding? This was the interesting and important question - and unfortunately one that Mr. Moyers chose not to ask.
In Bill Moyers' summary, he referred to the double standard in that white preachers such as Falwell, Robertson, and Hagee have made hateful and controversial comments but have not been treated like black preacher Wright. Moyers must have a poor memory, for every comment that has been hateful, outlandish, and divisive by these white preachers has also been renounced, opposed, chided, and covered by the media - much of the time in proportion to that person's relevance to national current events. What is your purpose in distorting the facts, Mr. Moyers? Race-baiting benefits no one.
Elizabeth Sheppard - Yes, it is true that whe pressed at the National Press Club, Wright evaded the substance of the direct question put to him, with his own flippant comment that the government was "capable" of doing such a thing. It would be nice, wouldn't it, if Wright would answer the question squarely and without equivocation. For me, Wright gave away his position when he turned on the questioner at the National Press Club and asked, "Have you read Horowitz's book?" The reference was to a crackpot theorist who wrote a book alleging that there was in fact a government conspiracy and/or a major biological accident that created the HIV/AIDS virus. Wright doesn't have the personal command of those facts, so instead he tosses the notion out, with a wink, saying, "It might be true!", just as it might be true that the mafia killed John F. Kennedy, or it might be true that the Apollo mon landing was a hoax. These kinds of theories are beneath the dignity of serious discussion. But then, Elizabeth, we can go back to the original sermon in which Wright launched a whole handful of similar theories and charges, each of them as...
Wright speaks truth about race and power relations in the U.S. and in how our power structure relates to the world. It is very disappointing to see Obama distance himself from Wright in such a transparently politician-like self-opportunistic way. White folks in this country still benefit from racism and white supremacy and refuse to acknowledge it. It really is as simple as that. This can truly be a turning point to get white liberals to come to grips with their own privilege in the U.S. and in a true telling of all of our history.
Thanks for your thoughtful follow up Friday night regarding The Rev. Wright. I have one slight correction; he did not say the US Government created the AIDS epidemic; he said, given some of their previous actions (he gave notable examples including the syphilis experiment), he believed they were CAPABLE of doing it. And that, for me, doesn't require such a stretch of the imagination, given their past performance.
I read the intro that illicited all of these comments on the issue of Rev. Wright. I read the Black Value System just now and that issue is twisted way before Rev. Wright. Manford Byrd's no. 1 value mention Commitment to God. And like I said in one of these comments before, the politics bleeding into the black church community makes for a very unhealthy body of Christ. I think there REALLY DOES need to be more unity within our community, more responsibility to each other and rearing up our black men in the fear of God. But starting with the Black Value System, for example, that's just a bad idea. Using the black church as black activism isn't all together good. Dr. King didn't do that. If TUCC decided to set up an black activism group outside of the ministries of their congregation, maybe it would stay separate from the Gospel of Jesus Christ from the gospel of Black Power. We are within our rights and quite justified for the anger we feel as a community, but it has gone too far and Obama's campaign is suffering for it.
THE CLASSIFICATION OF AMERICANS BY RACE AND ETHNICITY MUST END The Racial and Ethnic classification of Americans is nothing more than institutionalized racism and must be ended. The United States of America has been known as a country of rugged individualism based on individual freedom and liberty. Why has America become a country obsessed with classifying its citizens into different racial and ethnic sub-groups? The only groups that actively support the continued collection of racial and ethnic data are big government bureaucrats and "racial and ethnic special interest groups” that also happen to receive significant funding from the federal government. These organizations argue that identifying people by race and ethnicity is necessary in order to redress some past injustice and that the federal government must continue to collect and use this information in order to set up special racial and ethnic programs, affirmative action quotas and other set-asides for these groups, some of whom consist of new immigrants, illegal aliens and non-citizens. Nothing can be further from the truth. In a country where we can no longer ask people what religion they are, what their party affiliation is or what their sexual orientation is, why are we still asking them...
THE CLASSIFICATION OF AMERICANS BY RACE AND ETHNICITY MUST END The Racial and Ethnic classification of Americans is nothing more than institutionalized racism and must be ended. The United States of America has been known as a country of rugged individualism based on individual freedom and liberty. Why has America become a country obsessed with classifying its citizens into different racial and ethnic sub-groups? The only groups that actively support the continued collection of racial and ethnic data are big government bureaucrats and "racial and ethnic special interest groups” that also happen to receive significant funding from the federal government. These organizations argue that identifying people by race and ethnicity is necessary in order to redress some past injustice and that the federal government must continue to collect and use this information in order to set up special racial and ethnic programs, affirmative action quotas and other set-asides for these groups, some of whom consist of new immigrants, illegal aliens and non-citizens. Nothing can be further from the truth. In a country where we can no longer ask people what religion they are, what their party affiliation is or what their sexual orientation is, why are we still asking them...
I have an American friend who introduced me to that delightfully instructive book "The Power of Myth" - she also predicted that, in the next election, neither the white woman nor the black man would be allowed to win. As a parent concerned over escalating american military tactics (overseas and at home) I fear that I see my friend's prediction coming true. I don't usually watch american news but do read alternet and I did watch the entire sermon on youtube and as a white canadian, I could plainly hear Rev. Wright talking a lot of sense ... Here in Canada we have been bent over a barrel by NAFTA, which has contributed mightily to our current unhappiness with the war in the middle east. The good ol' US is in fact sueing us for such outrages as our refusal legalize Bovine Growth Hormone. Incidentally, our government has tried to patch things up by firing the Agriculture Canada scientists responsible for decrying BGH. Once again, our only salvation lies in education. Thank you, Bill Moyers, for trying to educate us!
Mr. Moyers, regarding your essay on Rev. Wright: Thank you for saying what isn't being said elsewhere in the media and applying reason to help sort out the many influences underlying how the Wright controversy is covered in the media. In fact, the syndicated media is as controversial as Rev. Wright in its unending efforts to reinforce the legitimacy of linking the beliefs and policies of Obama to his paster. Clearly this line of reporting could get pretty messy if every public official was held to this standard of "association." I thought that we (as a society) had worked through that approach already with Sen McCarthy and found that it didn't serve the public's best interests? I'm looking forward to your thoughtful analysis of Rev. Wrights thesis on reconciliation and how this may be timely given recent events.
Bill Moyers, I have always had great respect for you, and I didn't think I could like you more, but I do. We have banned tv from our home for many years, and I'm never a victim of the media situation; recently, I've been following the stories, videos, blogs online vociferously. It's astounding. Listening to you tallk is so refreshing, smart, thoughtful, and thought-provoking. Makes me want to at least have pbs.
Bill Moyers, I have always had great respect for you, and I didn't think I like you more, but I do. We have banned tv from our home for many years, and I'm never a victim of the media situation; recently, I've been following the stories, videos, blogs online vociferously. It's astounding. Listening to you tallk is so refreshing, smart, thoughtful, and thought-provoking. Makes me want to at least have pbs.
To Ms. Joyce Allard. I will do my best to explain this anomaly from a young black american female perspective. It has been a long standing fact that since slavery and Jim Crow, that the dominating White majority applied the one drop rule to those who are known to have the one drop of African blood. This has lopped mulattos and light-complected people into this African American experience. The experience itself is something someone is brought up in. There are plenty of people out there who are passing for white or walking around without the knowledge of their African blood. But they may not know the black american experience. Wright's complexion is not a factor. How much white blood or black blood he has isn't the issue. He's been speaking from an African American experience because he has experienced it. It is an interesting observation, but the human genome and the many forms it takes is beyond our control and has nothing to do with a cultural experience. Now, I also want to make note that not all of Wright's broadcasted sayings speak for the African American community as a whole. Like any of race of people, the perspectives are...
To Ms. Joyce Allard. I will do my best to explain this anomaly from a young black american female perspective. It has been a long standing fact that since slavery and Jim Crow, that the dominating White majority applied the one drop rule to those who are known to have the one drop of African blood. This has lopped mulattos and light-complected people into this African American experience. The experience itself is something someone is brought up in. There are plenty of people out there who are passing for white or walking around without the knowledge of their African blood. But they may not know the black american experience. Wright's complexion is not a factor. How much white blood or black blood he has isn't the issue. He's been speaking from an African American experience because he has experienced it. It is an interesting observation, but the human genome and the many forms it takes is beyond our control and has nothing to do with a cultural experience. Now, I also want to make note that not all of Wright's broadcasted sayings speak for the African American community as a whole. Like any of race of people, the perspectives are...
Jeremiah Wright is lighter-complected than Barack Obama. Why has no one (Wright included) revealed his racial heritage? I deplore the fact that anyone with a drop of African blood is automatically considered black. That is just dumb, and generates racism on both sides. Someone please explain this to me. Thank you, Joyce Allard (Caucasian)
While I do not like everything that Rev. Wright has said, I cannot find it in my heart to condemn the man. What gives me the greatest sympathy for him is the fact that he is not altogether wrong. Just today, one James E. Woodard, a 55 year old black male was released from prison in Dallas Texas. He was falsely accused and imprisoned for 3 decades for murder. DNA evidence finally freed him, but the reality is that the evidence against him was never there. To date 17 black men have been released from jail in Dallas after an examination of the DNA evidence. That's 17 out of 40 cases examined. That's a pretty high error rate by any measure; one, dare I say, driven by racism. No white men or women have been freed, none were imprisoned on the same kind of slim evidence that convicted Mr. Woodard; apparently our drive to imprison someone in every case only extends to black men. Of course the black men in Dallas have it better than black men in other Texas cities. Dallas was the only city that made a substantial effort to save DNA from such cases. Tough luck if...
As long as we as people attempt to isolate ourselves as other than just american's or just religious we will never be united. Every underprivileged group who came to america either by their own will or in shackles was mis-treated or abused by the capitalist system. It is the nature of the beast. Get Over It. The Native Americans have been mis-treated and abused more than any other group and yet I see no special empathy toward them either. Our next president Barack Obama is living proof of opportunities in this great nation. The time has come for ALL americans to Get Over It already. Poor people of every race and ethnicity have had as much opportunity as anyone if they really desired to better their life. Instead of whining and claiming foul. I as well as others are the son & daughters of abandoned welfare mother's, although from drive & desire rose through the ranks to achieve the american dream after attending poor inner city schools. Go and make a better life instead of whining about the sins of america. America is the land of opportunity!
It is simplistic to describe opposition to Wright as “racial”. Wright joins others who are anti-scientific: this includes Falwell and Liberty “University”, the present Republican Administration, and Bryan “University” in Dayton, TN, to name three. Wright attributes Hurricane “Katrina” to causes other than scientific: Falwell and Liberty “University” and others teach that astronomy, geology, biology including evolution, physics, chemistry, and other scientific disciplines are wrong. What a strange contrast occurs when all want young people to participate in scientific education but no one denounces the anti-scientists!
It is simplistic to describe opposition to Wright as “racial”. Wright joins others who are anti-scientific: this includes Falwell and Liberty “University”, the present Republican Administration, and Bryan “University” in Dayton, TN, to name three. Wright attributes Hurricane “Katrina” to causes other than scientific: Falwell and Liberty “University” and others teach that astronomy, geology, biology including evolution, physics, chemistry, and other scientific disciplines are wrong. What a strange contrast occurs when all want young people to participate in scientific education but no one denounces the anti-scientists!
After weeks of reading commentary and hearing inflammatory rhetoric about Obama and Wright on the Internet, it is frustrating to find that - as usual - the real issues aren’t being addressed. The reason most of you responding negatively to Wrght and to those who are supportive and in agreement with him is so you can divert attention from these bigger issues. It's easy to ignore the context of Wright’s speeches and answers and focus on a comment or two. God forbid one actually get the big picture. To focus on and denounce Wright's belief about U.S. involvement in creating AIDs or that he appears "hateful" or wouldn't denounce Farrakhan certainly helps to keep the focus OFF all the other pointed comments he made and we all should know about this country's legacy of slavery and injustice - though some pretend not to. From genocide of Native Americans and theft of their land, imperialist wars, from the Mexican-American War to Iraq today, government corruption can all be ignored when the focus is on Wright's "arrogant attitude" or some of his angry responses to absurd questions. After all, what's he got to be angry about? We know Jesus never got angry...
"Jeremiah is a bullfrog and he's a friend of mine."
Thank you, Bill Moyers, for your courage once again to express the painful truth about the Wright controversy in your follow up piece on May 2nd.. The diatribe spewed by a majority of the media was certainly the politics of personal destruction and a very sad commentary on their ability and willingness to hold an intelligent conversation on race. On the other hand, Senator Obama has the intelligence, willingness and ability to have this conversation and many other conversations that would move the people of the United States in to a higher and more conscious vibration. Hopefully, we can count on enough people to have the discernment to recognize a very capable leader when they hear one.
Jeremiah Wright is obviously a self-hating member of the Mulatto Elite whose anti-white ravings mask his belief that he's not good enough for the honor of this European ancestry. His skin is lighter than Obama's and I'll bet at least one of his parents looks as white as Obama's mother.
Dear Mr. Moyers: If there is a time when someone should be commended for taking a stance against hypocrisy in the field of journalism, it is you! I applaud your sentiments expressed on your show, which aired Friday, May 2nd, 2008 on PBS in a eloquent rebuttal to the controversy involving Reverend Jeremiah Wright. My husband and I believe that there is not enough 'true' journalistic individuals in today's mainstream media spectrum, but you, sir, have undoubtedly shown to the public why we, the general public, regardless of our race, ethnicity, religious beliefs, or geographic origin of birth, that our maligned ignorance that is often taught early in life by sheer covert & overt racism bred from generation to generation, will in the long-run become a self-actualization of spiritual demise with an ultimate goal of achieving disunity for many many years to come in America. Your 'on-point' introduction to the foul air of discontent spewed by mainstream & cable media outlets to continue feeding negative and overt overtones of straight & reverse 'psychological racism' that is designed to foster fear mongering of racial discord in America among American born men, women, and children from every spectrum of the hu[e]man race...
I think even Bill Moyers has not had the opportunity to see the videos of Pastor Wright's appearances at the National Press Club or at the NAACP. If he had seen them, then he would not give the slightest bit of credence to the smear campaign being waged against Wright. You do not have to be a psychologist to analyze behavior that did not happen. The behavior that did happen was the media once again distorting Wright's remarks. I know a lot of you are thinking, "Surely the media cannot be blatantly distorting these recent events after they have been called to task for distorting his sermons." Well you would be wrong. You should be thinking, "If they did it once, why wouldn't they do it again?"
For all the wailing there is in support of Rev. Wright "spekaing truth to power," it remains that Barack Obama and the highest-level leadership in his campaign have decided that Wright was toxic. I wonder how much it was that Wright's "AIDS conspiracy" comments were the straw that broke the camel's back in this instance. Because the AIDS support community, a mjor force in Democratic politics must have been rightfully outraged and offended (Obama said "all Americans" would be "rightfully offended" by Wright's comments) by the scientifically and morally deceptive theory that AIDS was the product of a government conspiracy. Liberal Democrats are good at railing against racism and injustice as long as they don't step on the toes of any of their own special interests in the process. Consequently, while Democrats might talk about past racism, they'll rarely mention the past racism of the labor unions. And while Democrats might talk about limiting the influence of the wealthy and powerful, it's not likely that they'll mention the wealthy and powerful trial lawyers.
It is obvious the reason Barack Obama remained in a setting/church community that gives him an identity, of which the racism of America robs people like him! Barack Obama was conceived in a white womb. Barack Obama fell from white loins. Barack Obama played 'hide and seek' under a white skirt as a toddler. Barack Obama grew up in a white household as a youngster. Then tadaa! Barack Obama began to grow into a young man. And Barack is reminded that he (COMING FROM A WHITE HOUSEHOLD) needed to learn to accept the racist-ASSIGNED identity that he was now a Black man in America! And so Barack Obama fortunately found acceptance, in a Black Chicago community/church, of his pigmentation and WHITE UPBRINGING. All the racists Americans who continue to wail on Obama over his association with a Black church, which helped to cement the RACIST-ASSIGNED Black identity in America, will surely be damned! lol
The good rev has said during his remarks before the National Press Club that his comments were edited. Moyers and company should post the entire, complete interview without editing on this web site so that all may watch and judge for themselves. To do less is to suggest that Moyers and staff are preventing this man from making his case in full. On the air there are the restrictions of time, online, here, there is not. Please post the entire uncut interview. It's the only right thing to do. Thank you
As long as people attempt to isolate ourselves as other than american we will never be united. Every underprivileged group who came here either by their own will or in shackles was mis-treated and abused. The Native Americans have been mis-treated and abused more than any other group and yet we feel no special empathy toward them either. Our next president Barack Obama is living proof of opportunities in this great nation. The time has come to get over it already. Go and make a better life instead of whining about the sins of america. America is the land of opportunity!
Rich Kirk One senses that you are trying to be sincere in your position on Moyers' insightful comment. However, generations of mis-education seems to get in the way. The hoopla over Rev Right RELIGIOUS RHETORIC says more about Americans' racism and IGNORANCE than it does about Rev Right, AN OLD MAN! THREATS (which are the precursors of actions) ARE the kinds of words on which Americans should be wasting so much time, energy and attention! When maniac muslims THREATEN to destroy Americans and DO demonstrate that they follow through with ACTION, then those are the kinds of words that deserve the kinds of attention Americans are wasting on the RELIGIOUS RHETORIC of Rev Right! No one who is virtuous, honest and effectively educated will blame Rev Right for the much ado over mere HARMLESS AMERICAN RELIGIOUS RHETORIC! For anyone who thinks even slightly on the hoopla surrounding Rev Right, the CONSTANT REPLAYING of particular clips of sermons by the media morons, should be a DEAD GIVE AWAY that replays were done by racists. The clips were OVERPLAYED to polarize Americans by taking advantage of their ignorance and racist disposition? It is not like Rev Right words were real threats and...
"I tremble for my country when I think God is just and justice does not sleep forever". Thomas Jefferson Wright spoke about: As you sow, so shall you reap. Wright, then is the fruit sown by Jim Crow and RIP, Emmett Till who could be celebrating turning 67 this year along with Wright. Obama had it right he first time~he understood Wright and his character and did not agree with him on many things. If there were no white supremacists there would be no Rev. Wrights. Why would a Supreme Court Justice (Sandra Day O'Connor) rule in favor of the Ku Klux Klan over 14th Amendment rights of "equal protection under the law" of those being terrorized in 1998 by the Klan. Case decided in 2001, I believe letting the terrorize off the hook. Moyer, sir, you have it right, the commenters will never "get it". They are part of the problem.
Bill Moyers has written a touching lament for the tragedy of Barack Obama and Jeremiah Wright. "All the rest of us should hang our heads in shame for letting it come to this in America..." All the rest of us, specifically everyone except Barack Obama and Jeremiah Wright, should hang our heads in shame? Shame on us... for anything and everything that happens anywhere ever in the history of the world? For every stupid, hateful thing that anyone may ever say or do? This garbage sounds like a parody of "bleeding heart" liberals by Rush Limbaugh on one of his really bad days! We should "hang our heads in shame for letting it come to this in America," when a black Senator can become the leading candidate for President of the United States? We should "hang our heads in shame for letting it come to this in America," when the only thing that can keep Barack Obama out of the White House is his own cowardice for not confronting Jeremiah Wright? I feel so ashamed that Barack Obama didn't have the balls to confront his hate-freak pastor for 20 years! But look, says Bill Moyers! Jeremiah Wright doesn't scream hate-speech...
Reverend Wright speaks his truth. If white America (I am white by the way) can not hear or understand his truth, it is only because they are living in denial of what race in America means. Having white skin means having the privilege of not having to think about race. Reverend Wright is right about so many things he said. Even his comments about the US government being complicit in bringing HIV to the black (and I would add, gay) community, is not that off-base. I remember hearing an ex-CIA agent, named John Stockwell who went public with all he knew about what the CIA has done in the interest of "national security" - horrifying experiments that have been done on unsuspecting Americans. I do not trust our government today - the government that lied to us about Iraq, any more than I trust the government of Ronald Reagan, that traded arms for hostages and lied to us about it. Blind faith in our leaders just makes us blind. Because Wright is speaking the truth, he is seen as a threat, and that is why the media is so intent on discrediting him. How about discrediting the real threats to...
I wonder whether this needs to be the racial issue that many are making it. Former Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives Newt Gingrich had this to say about the matter: ********** GINGRICH: Well, let me say, first of all, I think that there are a lot of other issues that matter. I think health matters, the environment matters, the economy matters, a lot of -- energy matters. But where I think it's hard to even explain this, and you're going to hate this answer... COLMES: Thanks for letting me know ahead of time. GINGRICH: ... is Jeremiah Wright is actually not so much representative of the black church as he is representative of the hard left. He's much closer to -- to Noam Chomsky. He's much closer to Bill Ayers. He's much closer to a tradition that sees America as the center of evil in the world. And that's actually an ideological base. ********** I think that there is great merit to what Gingrich says. The more I hear of Wright, the more I am convinced that the soundbites, the snippets, are actually in keeping with Wright's overall message. Wright hasn't been misquoted. He's been one of the...
I was unable to view your program in which you interviewed Rev. Jeremiah Wright but did catch your follow-up comments last Friday night. For perhaps the first time in memory, I found myself taking issue with what you were saying. Like Nixon, the Rev. Wright was arrogant enough to have himself recorded making statements that to say the least, prudence would have dictated that he should not have done. I was in very white Oregon (I live in central Philadelphia) when the tapes were played nationally, and I found myself explaining to folks there that it is impossible to be black in America and NOT be exposed to this kind of rhetoric incessantly, and not just in church, either. If you are black, this kind of rhetoric can and will come from some of your dearest friends and not all of them are Reverends. Of course, the folks in Oregon had not construed the remarks as particularly anti-American, as the press always reports it. They had construed the remarks as anti-white. There is a difference. I have to agree that the Rev. Wright’s bitterness and frustrations are totally and completely understandable. Those of us who have really studied American history...
Well, Bill, I was watching Reliable Sources and they played a clip where you said "BILL MOYERS, PBS: This is crazy and wrong. White preachers are given leeway in politics that others aren't. All the rest of us should hang our heads in shame for letting it come to this in America, where the gluttony of the nonstop media grinder consumes us all and prevents an honest conversation on race." I thought the point was important enough to watch the entire clip. I was not disappointed. I think your brand of journalism is on decline. The soft news has taken over and has made fools of the American public. We don't want a media personality interpreting the story for us. We just want the facts on a 24 hour basis. If people want to slant our opinion, why not leave that type of opinion on a network devoted to a particular brand of politics. The decline in media's ability to give us basic information means our democracy has eroded beyond belief. The Fourth Estate is not in that position to give us propaganda. It is in that position to give us the who? the what? the where? and how it...
Bill and D. - The Civil War "argument", which it was not, was an effort to point out that during the Civil War, more people were killed in trying to secure the right of all men to be free, to be treated equally; as many as were killed in all our other major wars. Anyone who really read the post knows it wasn't a "we saved your butt" comment. If fighting and dying over every man's freedom was that important to those men - then it should be at least of "equal importance to us now." I hope that helps clear up that comment for you. Wright, is right in what he points out but since your interview with him he has been negative in his presentation. Obama is coming from a positive direction. Wright's remarks in regard to Obama, are negative and regressive. It appears that Obama would present the problems with less rancor and move us "all" forward.
I see that there are still some people who are deluded and think that racial strife in America is something that is just a minor annoyance. They wax eloquently like a Rodney King, talking about can't we all just get along. They don't see it, the insidious and destructive way that racism has entrenched itself in the very being of some people and perpetuates itself generation after generation. These people with blinders are lamenting the same old song since the beginning of slavery, "Hey, everybody else has it bad too, what's your beef?" If you think that the Indians aren't feeling the pains of the past, read a book, visit a reservation. Last hired, first fired, police racial profiling, or just straight up police brutality, being dragged behind trucks, are just some examples that racism is alive and well. Rev. Wright is not racism, Rev. Wright is a response to racism. You can't just wish something away. If you want racism to end, then find out what it is, define it, talk about it, don't do it yourself, and make sure when it shows up in your presence, you let it know it's not welcome. Stop suffering from naivete, misinformation...
I liked the Bill Moyers interview, especially the first part. I don't think it was wrong to softball the questions after parts of Wrights sermons were looped. Maybe PBS should take the opportunity to revisit the origins of aids question. That is the title of Tom Curtis' 1992 Rolling Stone article. Is he still around? Edward Hooper could be interviewed as well. No vaccine has been developed so far - does that have anything to do with the origin of AIDS?
Trish your eloquent and 100% correct statement reveals the "real" truth that even a marginal commentator like bill moyers refuses to admit Thank you for being you!
Bob, I am not a left-wing propagandist. I do not understand the terms 'left-wing' and 'right-wing,' any more than I understand the terms 'liberal' and 'conservative.' I know a fair amount about war because of the course I developed and taught for an Honors Program, which was called "Documentary Film and Literature of Modern War.' What I learned from extensive research for the course is what led to my closing comment about America's perhaps unwitting slide into corruption and danger. The United States, historically, has been-and remains-naive about war in comparison with European countries, which have had far too much direct experience of it. I have lived in Paris and London; I have spent a great deak if time traveling in Europe; I was in Britain when the Israeli-Lebanese war broke out; I was convinced we were on the brink of World War Three. I remain convinced that we are moving toward that potentially apocalyptic conflict. Anyway, I regret that you miscontrused my remarks. Regards, M A Wimsatt
Bill Moyers did this whole discussion a great disservice by not asking the hard questions in his "conversation" with Rev. Wright. I the Reverend says that his words were taken out of context then ask him what he meant in context. Bill didn't even go that far. His questions were softball and his approach was to advocate for his interviewee rather than to ask any informative question. Bill showed no journalistic instincts in this situation and we all have lost out because of it.
Reverend Wright is the perfect example of why we still have the KKK, we still need the EEOC, and every other program that we have been subject to since Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves. There have been and continue to be massive divides in our country that we've never been able to breach simply because we can't seem to move past the issue of color, religious differences, sex and every other issue that makes us all unique and different which is how God created us. People like Wright are the reason that we cannot unite as one people and move past the issues that we have allowed to divide our nation. Wright’s inability and unwillingness to move beyond the bitterness of the civil rights violations, the battles of the past, battles that continue today. Battles that never see the light of a press announcement or merit an obscure story line on page 13 of any paper published. Wright and others like him just re-enforce the belief of a minority of people that our nation can never work past our differences, and move on as a nation of ONE, which we should have done years ago. As a child and young...
Who is Barack Obama? The first thing that comes to MY mind is: “right rap, right look, right conman”. Americans look to Obama or any other smooth talking politician to tell them what they want to hear, whether it be regarding hope, change or more perks. Americans have proved themselves naive before and will prove themselves once again dumb as dishwater after being sucked into another politicians self serving smooth talk. Regardless of who wins the election we will not prosper, the politicians get richer and we will keep dreaming until death due us part.
Thank you Mr. Moyers for further clarification that you my friend are not a non-biased responsible journalist. It now is rather evident that you my friend have out lived your usefulness as a "marginal" commentator, perhaps you could return to the shameless promotion of Joseph Campbell's Myth's & Mysticism (Opiatic religious mumbo jumbo and general brainwashing for the common masses)? You have now officially turned PBS into the FOX network. I can only hope they keep you off of NPR. I have always supported and loved PBS because of the truly non-biased opinions. Due to this love I would not comment on last weeks obvious sympathetic caressing of Rev. Wright. Now however after your nine (9) minute (viewer paid for) uncalled for justification of the Rev Wright interview and subliminal bias toward anyone not supporting Rev. Wright's views I must chime in. I can only hope next week Mr Moyers will spend as much time and effort promoting Sen Clinton's campaign as his obvious desceptive promotion of Sen Obama's campaign this week. Good Night Bill and turn off the lights on your way out.
5/1/08 Who is Barack Obama? The first thing that comes to MY mind is: “right place, right time, right man”. Americans by the millions are looking to Obama to LISTEN their calls of HOPE and CHANGE. ALL the senses are stimulated. A political organizers dream candidate. People who’ve NEVER gotten INVOLVED before let alone VOTED, are coming TOGETHER calling themselves “Concerned Citizens”. DEMANDS for ethics, responsibility and accountability are becoming more & MORE prevalent on the American. The INTERNET is burning up with the MESSAGE (and Obama support and donations “mybarackobama.com”) CHANGE IS IN THE AIR! The second thought that enters my mind: WHY the #*~/ is the media and a varying 38-46% of Democrats trying SO HARD to ruin that kind of PARTICIPATION… the Obama phenomenon? It IS still about the PEOPLE, right? Y’know, all that about “Of, By, For”, Life Liberty, Happiness, Equal Rights and JUSTICE! This Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers “guilt by association” game is just NUTS! THIS is NEWS? So out-of-touch Republicans, Reagan Democrats and Hilary supporters ARE, they believe ALL THIS PETTY BS, will sway the Concerned Citizens from their DEMANDS. No NO, not NOW! Not in this time of Bush Administration foreign policy BLUNDERS...
Thank you, thank you, thank you Bill Moyers for your sane and balanced comments on your May 2 program. I was extremely saddened by the Obama/Wright split earlier this week and your words helped immensely. I particularly appreciated your candid remarks that the Wright "controversy" is all about race. We have a terrible double standard in this country. I am white and liberal Christian, an Obama supporter, mid 50's middle class. And for the most part, I agree with Rev. Wright. And I'm a big Bill Moyers fan!
Thank you, thank you, thank you Bill Moyers for your sane and balanced comments on your May 2 program. I was extremely saddened by the Obama/Wright split earlier this week and your words helped immensely. I particularly appreciated your candid remarks that the Wright "controversy" is all about race. We have a terrible double standard in this country. I am white and liberal Christian, an Obama supporter, mid 50's middle class. Just so you know... And a big Bill Moyers fan!
Mr. Moyers, thank you for your courage to speak the unspoken. Unfortunately, race is still used, however subtly, as a divisive factor in our national politics. One only needs to read the polls conducted by AP, CNN, etc., the press treats as headline news polls showing Sen. Obama having difficulty attracting white voters over age 50 who do not have college degrees. Neither McCain nor Clinton seem to warrant an equivalent level of electoral parsing from news media. AP issues no headlines reading "McCain Falters with Southern Black Voters".
Thank you Mr. Moyers, as per usual, you get it right. There's another angle that isn't being looked at. conveiniently, as it were it's being used to Swift Boat a great opportunity for our country to take back some of the pride it has lost over the past 8 years of corruption and defamation we have endured under this debacle of an administration. I am not a black man. I believe that what Rev. Wright said and in the context to which he said it was clearly understable and plausable... It takes a real Patriot and an American to the core to defy the mediocrity we are handed these days from the media elite who is solely responsible for our utter demise in-sync with cronism and full out corruption from this administration and their ilke for over the past 40 years period. There are a slent majority of good American peoples that exist who feel exactly like what Rev. Wright spoke up about. I believe that if the media was doing it's job, like when Watergate broke... We'd have the kind of journalism that would give us the adult facts about the real chaos and backroom dealing that is prevailent...
Teri laverne---Mr. Moyers is your Hero? Please get a life! In all due respeckt s. Laveerne we have many hero's out there and if that's the best you can do then you need to do your homework.
Thank you Bill Moyers for your outstanding comments on Rev. Wright. Employing history for context (imagine that) and comparing him to some reverends on the right made for a "fair and balanced" look at what has become a huge missed opportunity to look at race with some honesty.(Obama's March speech was a great beginning on this, and gave one hope. How did that get stifled? DId the press response have a rolet?) Now it has become just more of the horse race. Is Obama up or down now because he said this or Wright said that?What a tiresome conversation? There are real problems in this country and the world. Are Obama and Clinton so undifferentiated on the real issues that only sensationalized issues are going to get the attention of the press? If so, broaden the coverage and allow us to hear about third party candidates. Nader,for instance, has a different idea on health care policy, Palestine and Israel, nuclear energy, and corporate malfeasance.
Bill Moyers, Thank you for the opening piece concerning the Rev. Wright & Sen. Barak Obamma fiasco. You brought a keen insight, compassion,& an open "Heart" to your piece, which is rare these days in media journalism. You also brought something else to your piece, "nuance", which seems to be lacking in our public discourse now days.With the dumbing down of the American public with info-tainment, I see why, & that to me is very sad ! As our world grows so ever more complexed & convoluted, being able to bring a nuanced perspective, should become the norm ( this is one of the gifts about Sen, Obama I love, he brings "nuance") that seems to be lost on a large segment of the American population. Instead people become suspicious, untrusting, shut-down,& confused.We need more elevated discourse instead of less, in my humble estimation. Again, thank you Bill Moyer & PBS for being that oasis for those of us who thirst! Sincerely, Robert Hill
Mr. Moyers, Thank you for this insightful and brave essay on the Rev. Wright "problem".To watch this gave me hope that not all the media is propagating more of the misunderstandings that keep us all so far apart. In the midst of this Wright controversy Sean Bell's NYPD killers were acquitted ; one of them had fired off at least 31 rounds into an unarmed Sean Bell celebrating the night before his wedding day . Yet where is the coverage of that?or the outrage? THe truth that many white americans cannot face is the truth that Wright has described about this nation.It is the truth that conitnues to be palyed out in the lives of many balcks such as Sean Bell. AMerican culture says criticism of govt/country is unpatriotic and this has led us where we are today: in an illegal war without end, paying record prices for gas while jobless and homeless in record numbers and generally in dire straits. Somehow the coverage of a black preacher who has a right to his anger and outrage managed to trump all these other issues. Racism indeed.
Mr. Moyers, Thank you for this insightful and brave essay on the Rev. Wright "problem".To watch this gave me hope that not all the media is propagating more of the misunderstandings that keep us all so far apart. In the midst of this Wright controversy Sean Bell's NYPD killers were acquitted ; one of them had fired off at least 31 rounds into an unarmed Sean Bell celebrating the night before his wedding day . Yet where is the coverage of that?or the outrage? THe truth that many white americans cannot face is the truth that Wright has described about this nation.It is the truth that conitnues to be palyed out in the lives of many balcks such as Sean Bell. AMerican culture says criticism of govt/country is unpatriotic and this has led us where we are today: in an illegal war without end, paying record prices for gas while jobless and homeless in record numbers and generally in dire straits. Somehow the coverage of a black preacher who has a right to his anger and outrage managed to trump all these other issues. Racism indeed.
Bill: You are my hero and I am glad I can depend on your honesty and integrity, but I feel you are giving Reverend Wright a pass on his very bad behavior at the Press Club and NAACP. This man makes his living (whether money or just the spotlight) on the currency of hate, resentment, bitterness and lies. He may have done good things in the past, but last week he took vengence on a parishioner for dissing him and he torpedoed the hopes of Americans of all ethnicities whose support for Obama demonstrates the desire to get past this and work on our future together. The last thing he wants is for us all to get along. Selfishness on this scale should not be explained away.
Mr. Moyers, Thank you for this insightful and brave essay on the Rev. Wright "problem".To watch this gave me hope that not all whites are propagating more of the misunderstandings that keep us all so far apart. In the midst of this Wright controversy Sean Bell's NYPD killers were acquitted ; one of them had fired off at least 31 rounds into an unarmed Sean Bell celebrating the night before his wedding day . Yet where is the coverage of that?or the outrage? THe truth that many white americans cannot face is the truth that Wright has described about this nation. THe culture that says criticism is unpatriotic is what has led us where we are today: in an illegal war without end, pauying record prices for gas,while jobless and homeless and in dire straits. Somehow a black preacher who has a right to his anger and outrage managed to trump all that. Racism indeed.
Dear Mr. Moyers, Your essay on Reverend Wright is one of the best essays I've ever heard you do. I think you're right on about the double standard and the pass Bush, McCain, and their preachers get. So Obama is forced to distance himself from a man who has done a lot of good things for human rights. Wright may be a little "bombastic", but, as you said (I'm paraphrasing) he never shot or lynched anyone, nor did he ever set a bomb off in someone else's church. I think that oppressed people need a safe place to support each other, make each other stronger, and (sometimes) use strong words (admittedly, I don't watch a lot of mainstream media, so I may have missed some of the sound bites that people are finding so offensive). After hundreds of years of slavery and oppression, I think it's a little unfair to expect oppressed people to talk nice 100% of the time. Their oppressors surely do not. The sermon Wright did that appeared in all the sound bites had completely different meaning when I heard the more complete version on your show last week. And it's a message I happen to agree...
Pastors, pundits, and flag pins--OH MY! I can hardly believe most of the posts here. I haven't seen people so indignant, so self-righteous, and so self-deluding since the Bush administration began drumming up support for the war back in 2003. By the by, my favorite post thus far is the "civil war" argument, reminding me of the "we saved your a**es in WWII!" statements reserved by nationalists who weren't anywhere near WWII. Just for the record, it's myopic logic like yours that required an unbelievably costly war like the civil war to liberate the slaves. So many scared bigots, who don't think they're bigots. So many scared folks who can't even read an article exploring why Wright said the things he did without accusing the author of "excusing" what he said. That's where we are these days--if it isn't a 24 hour op/ed piece, it's suddenly not "news". If an interview consists of someone guiding a conversation as opposed to conducting an interrogation, it's a "bad" interview. I for one thank Moyers for, God forbid, interviewing Wright (who, for the record, I disagree with in a multitude of ways) without condemning him. I'd love to see him interview Hagee ("How...
I just watched the Hagee Video- I'm not outraged, I'M TERRIFIED!! Why is his sociopathic Doctrine not being played on EVERY media Loop for Weeks, the topic on every show??? Hagee Presents far more of a Threat to US and the Rest of the World than Wright. And considering 'Public Servants' who support him (Leibermann, Mac...) his Terrorist doctrrine has far more ability to be carried out with Nukes then the Islamic extremeist with Box Cutters (they don't ahve an arsenal of Weapons/Nukes). Hillary's Proclaimation of her willingness to 'Obliterate Iran' baffled me- It doe not any more. I was foolish enough tot think she was merely a Covert Corp Operative willing to enslave mankind for Greed. Now I realize she was signaling she is fully iniatied into this 'End of Days' philosophy and will be a 'Warrior for God'and being Armegeddon. This doctrine is as twisted as Jim Jones et al, but has far more capability of actually coming to fruition. NOw I AM UTTERLY TERRIFIED!
I just watched the Hagee Video- I'm not outraged, I'M TERRIFIED!! Why is his sociopathic Doctrine not being played on EVERY media Loop for Weeks, the topic on every show??? Hagee Presents far more of a Threat to US and the Rest of the World than Wright. And considering 'Public Servants' who support him (Leibermann, Mac...) his Terrorist doctrrine has far more ability to be carried out with Nukes then the Islamic extremeist with Box Cutters (they don't ahve an arsenal of Weapons/Nukes). Hillary's Proclaimation of her willingness to 'Obliterate Iran' baffled me- It doe not any more. I was foolish enough tot think she was merely a Covert Corp Operative willing to enslave mankind for Greed. Now I realize she was signaling she is fully iniatied into this 'End of Days' philosophy and will be a 'Warrior for God'and being Armegeddon. This doctrine is as twisted as Jim Jones et al, but has far more capability of actually coming to fruition. NOE I AM UTTERLY TERRIFIED!
For those of us enlightened by Moyers from his “World Of Ideas” series, to “Power Of Myth” with Joseph Campbell, it’s sad to see Moyers fall so hard, so fast. His struggle to justify Jeremy Wright’s venom (and we’ve seen the whole sermon now) shows Moyers to be no different than Rush Limbaugh in failing to apply critical reason if doing so refutes his dogma. Wright does what all good liars do, intermingles their flat-out lies or half-truths that may as well be, with truth we all know. We all know the crimes of Tuskegee, but that doesn’t make government creation of the AIDS epidemic directed at blacks true, or acceptable grounds for Wright’s charge. We all know the cavalier nature with which blacks were enslaved 150 years ago, and Natives were simply exterminated, but that does not put the bomb on Hiroshima in the same category, “Without bating an eye” as Wright claims. But Moyers won’t challenge Wright and already forgot what Shelby Steel taught him and the rest of us on Moyers’ program mere months ago. As eloquent as Moyers sometimes was in his defense of Wright, Moyers only served to descend to the ranks of conservative talk...
Having watched the first interview with rev Wright and then hearing his speech given a few days later-I'd have to say, you Bill Moyers, my Hero, were PUNKED...The person on your show speaking in that quiet soft voice was replaced with that disgusting ranting self serving person who gives ministers a bad name-he is not doing Gods work-he is doing his own work, I believe his bursting out of the closet NOW is a direct result of a publicity stunt to boost sales of his soon to be released book. Who is going to by the nice version of Rev. Wright-Were you not amazed at his difference in speech and content from your interview-to his speech later to ministers???Did it not cross your mind to question his motives in using you? the fact that you gave a follow up defense of him on your show friday nite was unbelievable to me. I have certainly lost some respect for you. Please regain your perspective and again give us some great unbiased stories
It's obvious why you've made a fortune playing a liberal on TV. You've got just the right unctously caring and sorrowful tone. But for those paying attention, you define yourself by how you actually use your power. I don't know whether Barack Obama will survive your leading the pack in reviving the Jeremiah Wright story. I hope he will. But then he'll have you to revive it again at just the most damaging time. And you'll probably bring back your friend Shelby Steele for a third crack this election season at pitching his book defining Obama as a "Bound Man." But to me, what you don't do with your power as top dog TV liberal is much more telling. As a Texan you know all about GWB's apparent perjury, obstruction of justice, and influence peddling at the heart of the lawsuit against him known as Funeralgate. Yet you went along with the NYT and the rest of the national media in suppressing it during the 2000 campaign and the first several months of his presidency while it was going through the normal discovery process before being secretly settled -- using taxpayer funds -- after 911. Had the public known about...
Mr Moyer: While I agree somewhat with some of the comments you make about race in our country the unfortunate thing is that you're only talking usually about one particular race. If you spoke about all of us then I might appreciate your wisdom more in depth. I'm Caucasian and Native American and I've never heard you talk about the racist ideology being perpetuated against these particular groups. You only talk about supposed African Americans. The lines of race become nebulous at best when you call Obama a black American. He mixed and calling him a black American is like referring to me as a Native American. 20% of children born in this country today are of mixed marriages or arrangements. It's one thing to talk of predjudice against one group, it seems more pertinent to put a proper perspective on what is real and what is many times a matter of conjecture and fantasy. To assume that black Americans are not prejudiced is folly and a ludicrous notion at best. I enjoy your show very much but your appraisal of relations in our country is being portrayed in a limited fashion. I understand though that you don't have time...
Mr Moyer: While I agree somewhat with some of the comments you make about race in our country the unfortunate thing is that you're only talking usually about one particular race. If you spoke about all of us then I might appreciate your wisdom more in depth. I'm Caucasian and Native American and I've never heard you talk about the racist ideology being perpetuated against these particular groups. You only talk about supposed African Americans. The lines of race become nebulous at best when you call Obama a black American. He mixed and calling him a black American is like referring to me as a Native American. 20% of children born in this country today are of mixed marriages or arrangements. It's one thing to talk of predjudice against one group, it seems more pertinent to put a proper perspective on what is real and what is many times a matter of conjecture and fantasy. To assume that black Americans are not prejudiced is folly and a ludicrous notion at best. I enjoy your show very much but your appraisal of relations in our country is being portrayed in a limited fashion. I understand though that you don't have time...
620,000 people. This country is the only country in modern or ancient history which fought a war to end slavery. America is a participatory democracy and non-christian men often lead this country and its industries. Those circumstances should not be used to distance any group of people or christians from the fact that if we participate if we struggle for the right we can change the country to the better. That gift, the ability to change this country was twice given - by those who fought Revolutionary war, 25,324 killed and those who fought the Civil War,620,000 killed. It takes the combined total of Americans killed in WI, WWII, Korea and Vietnam to pass the Civil War losses. Maybe before that next fire filled, prophetic sermon fills the air, "we" should think on these things.
Dear Bill, DEEPEST THANKS for your commentary last night re: Jeremiah Wright. What you said was so TRUE, DEEP, HONEST, and HISTORIC! Wishing every person in the nation and the world could hear what you said, I have sent it to all my friends. You are truly an amazing Southern White Guy. Please know how much I appreciate your depth of knowledge and understanding of where Rev. Wright was coming from in his preaching. THANK YOU! THANK YOU!!
Thank you Mr. Moyers for further clarification that you my friend are not a non-biased responsible journalist. It now is rather evident that you my friend have out lived your usefulness as a "marginal" commentator, perhaps you could return to the shameless promotion of Joseph Campbell's Myth's & Mysticism (Opiatic religious mumbo jumbo and general brainwashing for the common masses)? You have now officially turned PBS into the FOX network. I can only hope they keep you off of NPR. I have always supported and loved PBS because of the truly non-biased opinions. Due to this love I would not comment on last weeks obvious sympathetic caressing of Rev. Wright. Now however after your nine (9) minute (viewer paid for) uncalled for justification of the Rev Wright interview and subliminal bias toward anyone not supporting Rev. Wright's views I must chime in. I can only hope next week Mr Moyers will spend as much time and effort promoting Sen Clinton's campaign as his obvious desceptive promotion of Sen Obama's campaign this week. Good Night Bill and turn off the lights on your way out.
Congratulations Mr. Moyer for saying it so clearly and for PBS allowing you the time to do so. I see layers of complexity in your explanation: I watched the full and required 6+ minutes on YouTube; but at least one viewer gave up after a minute and 36 seconds - - - probably because he has accepted the concept that a sound bite is enough to summarize any complex issue. Equally disturbing is that your argument may simply be too complex for even those who listen to the entire segment - - - the viewer who condensed the essay into "not the rehashed issues from 400 years past". Like it or not, this is representative of the electorate of the country we live in; and probably a majority of those voters. I will make one subtle distinction that you sort of gloss over. You equate Wright with Robertson and his ilk; and you are perfectly correct in doing so and in your conclusion that white preachers are given a pass in allowable political rhetoric - - - that a Black man is being judged far more harshly then his white counterparts. There is a distinction, however, when trying to compare...
Dear Mr. Moyers: In reference to the Rev. Wright situation and the negative pouncing from the media, you’re mentioning MNSBC, and other media on your program was so vital to our National Morality. From the moment I heard your interviews with Joseph Campbell, which has influenced my life greatly; I follow your programs and am truly grateful you are a voice for many and me. You in so many words and programs express the importance of “Virtue”, which grounds the human in moral behavior. I am not a researcher or scholar, but know the great philosopher, leaders, journalists, politicians and theologians who are humanitarian go to “virtue” a source for guidance. Jesus embraced all of mankind, which defines him as great of all humanitarian. Jesus, so often misunderstood, was the greatest model a virtuous life. Not to equate suffering with virtue, but to point out how the human needs to destroy the good in nature. To point out how we need to “take down what is good”? Mr. Moyers, why? What is this “destroyer factor” in the human that “good” cannot rise? Mary Ann Greco
Bill Moyers you are my hero!!! You are the voice of reason and sanity amidst all the political operatives, rabble rousers and self aggrandizers. Your opening comments were right on point! The media took hold of this story and ran with it and everyone jumped on their moral high horse without examining the facts or having ANY knowledge of history and viewing these events through their limited experiences. Your southern background gives you an insight that most wouldn't have or at least acknowledge and the collective amnesia that this country exhibits allows them to engage in a feeding frenzy and painting someone guilty by association. I appreciate your show and your thoughtful rational observations while avoiding the typical histrionics.
Thank you Thank you Thank you Mr. Moyers for further proof that you my friend, are not a non biased responsible reporter. I have always supported and loved PBS because of the truly non-biased opinions. Due to this love I would not comment on last weeks obvious sympathetic caressing of Rev. Wright. Now however after Mr. Moyers nine (9) minute (viewer paid for) uncalled for justification of the Rev Wright interview and subliminal bias toward anyone not supporting Rev. Wright's views I must chime in. I can only hope next week Mr Moyers will spend as much time and effort promoting Sen Clinton's campaign as his obvious desceptive promotion of Sen Obama's campaign this week. You my friend have out lived your usefulness as a marginal commentator, Good Night Bill and turn off the lights on your way out Thank you James Jones Senior Manager, Customer Service Programs
Thank you thank you thank you Mr. Moyers. Your comments at the beginning of your program (May 2, 2008) dealing with the 2000 responses on the Controversy of Rev. Wright, your program. You hit it on the nail. I was so happy to hear everything you said. That speech to all of us should be written down and passed around for all to read on a daily basis. as a mantra. We need to hear the truth and really look into our minds and hearts about judging without really looking at all value systems. Thank you Mr. Moyers. I am wanting more of your insightful thoughts. Mary Helen Moore
Mr. Moyers thank you very much for the program on Rev. Wright. At the beginning of the controversy I was not sure about Rev. Wright but during and after your program I felt good about who and what Rev. Wright is. He had some important issues to address. I think many persons do not know about American Black preaching and how they address the everyday issues. I thank you for providing me with a better understanding of Rev. Wright through your program. I am just sorry about how so many people have not understood or accepted who Rev. Wright is. Mary Helen Moore
Mr. Moyers thank you for having Rev. Wright on your program. When the controversy surfaced
Thank you, thank you, thank you for your direct response to the furor over Jeremiah Wright. Your insightful analysis of the conflict between race, religion, politics, and hypocrisy of us all should be the starting point for further discussions in an effort to understand ourselves and each other. Thank you for phrasing the issues succinctly and in such a way that I was able to determine the source of my anger and irritation at the continued superficial coverage of these issues by headline and soundbite.
Dear Mr. Moyers, Thank you for your response to the comments since the Rev. Wright interview - they were clear-eyed and insiteful. I agree with Margaret Randall's assessment in her post. There seems to be a huge fixation on the Aids issue and what I got from your commentary is that, while not validating or dismissing the conspiracy question, you allowed that, in view of such as the Tuskeegee experiments, it is understandable how a people would consider such a thing. This idea seems to just freak some people out, that our government would willingly subject us to something dangerous or even lethal and cover it up or lie about it. Let me remind you all that our government has done just that, and has been racially inclusive about it, as well. In 1951 and over the next 12 years, 126 atomic bombs were detonated into the atmosphere at the Nevada test site. Radiation spred over the entire country. Radiation injured workers and infantrymen at the site, and beyond the site killed or burned sheep, horses and cattle, and caused men, women, and children to die of cancer, and caused severe birth defects, as well. For 30 years the American...
Mr. Moyers, I was an Obama supporter until this situation unfolded on the public stage. Surely this current generation still places some value in loyalty to long time relationships, especially those that involve their faith. Obama could have ended all this early on by supporting his religious mentor’s right to have an opinion, or is that another right that has been taken out of the Constitution ? Once again, the political wranglers in the Democrat party and the Main Stream Media have sided with a vigilante mentality that feeds the ongoing division in this country. Reverend Wright expressed opinions that had previously been put forth by a large segment of Americans from both political extremes. For example, the sixty year history of the CIA is that of clandestine intervention in the affairs of foreign countries and the agency has long been aware of the Chickens-Coming-Home-To-Roost scenario which it calls Blowback. The policies of the World Bank, United Nations, and other U.S. backed international organizations, have resulted in economic oppression, starvation, and millions of deaths in various third world countries; hardly what FDR and his supporters envisioned 65 years ago. Professor Noam Chomsky was recently asked about the harsh response from...
Mr. Moyers, Thank you for being, as always, the voice of truth and illumination. Everyone should send this transcript to every media outlet and demand this kind of journalistic integrity. If we are at sea in a fog of deception and the politics of personal destruction, we are partly to blame for allowing it to go on unchallenged.
Why can't Kathleen Hall Jamieson run for president?...She undoubtedly has the 'common sense' that seems so lacking in everyone that's come to the plate...Regardless, I'm glad to hear her comments concerning this matter, as well as any other...What a level-headed, cut-thru-the-crap persona...She's got my vote. As far as Barack goes...he's shown (more than anything else), that he's another wealthy politician that will say what 'his team' feels necessary to get your vote...The reverend wright mess (as an example) Barack makes the comment that 'it happened to him'...This isn't anything that 'happened to him' at all, but a part of the truth as to 'who' he is and good or bad, it's just that: part of the truth. Instead, he takes the 'victim mentality' way out and in my mind it reinforces what I had suspected about his tactics...He'll say what he needs to, what 'the team' thinks the voters want to hear...One week, reverend wright has the same importance as the grandmother who raised him and the next week he's dupped barack for over 20 years...So which is it?...Who's confused?...Him?...I know I am. I also think 'the job' is too big for him. The Washington machine will continue as business...
Bill Moyers' editorial of May 2nd was one of the finest assessments of morality and US politics I have heard. It should be must listening for everyone in this country. One just doesn't get that depth and complexity anywhere else. Thank you!
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Thank You Mr. Moyers for the interview with Rev. Wright as well as your follow up commentary of the Corporate Media response. I appreciated all the media time that was given to Rev. Wright because it allowed me to hear him speak directly. I found his remarks and assessments to be honest and courageous. He clearly spoke from a foundation of his study, practice and understanding of Liberation Theology. Your interview of Rev. Wright was valuable for me in that it illuminated the subject of Liberation Theology and it's function in the American Black Community. I am a caucasian naturalized citizen. I have never been to a Black Church. I found Rev. Wright to be an unapologetic free thinker. Following your interview I took the time to read and watch Rev. Wright's subsequent two presentations. I learned much from both. What continues to amaze me is the characterization of Rev. Wright's responses to the press as being outlandish or inappropriate. Given the context, the questions presented by the press to Rev. Wright were down right insulting and mocking of his intelligence. As a viewer I felt insulted by the hollow baiting of the questions. I applauded Rev. Wrights retorts to...
If you accept that Rev. Wright--and, indeed, Bill Moyers, according to his May 2 commentary--are correct when they assert that the AIDS virus may have been visited upon black people because of the history of the Tuskegee experiments, then one must: assume that all Japanese Americans who were sadly arcerated during the war assume that their imprisonment must be imminent today; that Jews must blame all colleges today because at one time there was a quota system against Jews; that all Irish must suspect employment discrimination because of the want-ads that said, "No Irish need apply"...well, you get the idea. Yesterday's history is not necessarily a bellweather of today's truths. Rev. Wright,I would think, would do better to spend his time working on the unmet needs of African Americans, particularly the youth, and by extension, to the election of the first African-American who can wield the ultimate power to improve the way blacks, whites, Latinos, Asians--live. Orwould that put Rev. Wright out of a job?
After following Rev Wright's escapades over the past two or three weeks, watching and reading all the media coverage of the whole business; after reading the many responses and opinions on this suject, and finally, after listening to most of Jamieson's comments on the candidates, the campaign, etc., I despair. Friedrich Nietzsche was correct: History is the eternal recurrence of the same thing [der ewige Wiederkehr des Gleichen]. It is enough to make one cycnical.
Mr. Moyers in his commentary tonight said very definitively that all the furor over Reverend Wright's appearances was all about race. I do not agree. I think it is about religion and politics, church and state. On another forum I said that had such appearances transpired after John Kennedy made his speech about his Catholic faith - had a representative of his family church spoken as Reverend Wright did in public on contraversial issues - whatever they might be - casting blame upon a segment of the American population, or America itself in general - I think we would have the same difficulties as we have been trying to deal with since last week's interview. It's too easy to say that the problem is race, that different standards are applied to white preachers, so there is indeed this inherent division we all ought to recognize. I don't believe this is so. I think we have been sensitized to the misuse of religion by the far right, and I for one am very glad that Barack Obama steps away from any suggestion that this could also be happening on the left. It has nothing to do with race.
I really don't need to wonder why some folks in this country think racism is a figment of African Americans overactive imagination. These same folks don't even know the definition of the word. They think that if the Indians, and the African Americans have a suspicious nature, then they are just living in the past, never mind the absurdity of that observation since we all reach conclusions based on our past experiences. If a belief in a HIV conspiracy exists it's because of, right or wrong, past experiences. History, real history, has countless stories of the mass killings and unwarranted murders of Indians and Africans alike. Even today, in 2008, there are still those in America who would deny me the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, simply because I'm an African American. They are far less numerous now than in the past, but even a few hundred thousand is still too many. Rev. Wright is not talking like a fanatic, indeed, the fanatics are after him. The hatred that Americans are feeling from other countries is the same hatred African Americans have felt here at home. Ain't nothing worse than being hated in your own home...
What a whining, befuddled, useless commentary from Bill Moyers as a follow up to the Wright "interview." Moyers didn't say why he failed, in his chance to interview Wright, to ask about the AIDS "conspiracy." We are left to the presumption that such a question was not asked because it did not fit in with Moyers' greater goal, which was not to pursue truth, explanations, or clarity. Moyers' true goal was to try to sell America on Wright, and, by extension, Obama. In the end, the Moyers interview of Wright will go down in journalism history as one of the great, glaring, non-interviews of all time. This episode becomes the touchstone of the Moyers career in using the nation's public broadcasting network for the slanted, soft-leftist preachings of Moyers himself.
How disappointed I am in your response to Rev. Wright. He spoke more truth than all three candidates. I heard no racism. i heard only the disgust for the same policies that I share. As a white Catholic Republican, I find more credibility in Wright than in Bill Moyers. Like Tuskegee, the truth about AIDS is hard to take. Still, I believe Wright closer to the truth that you cannot handle. Whose side are you on?
Mr. Jones, I don't believe congressman Conyers' record says anything about the government (CIA) creating viruses. It only addresses the issue that the CIA, during the Iran Contra affair, did supply drugs to the USA. This is an issue that blacks are particularly peeved about. However, if you are interested in genome specific weapons of mass destruction, you will find the neo-con "Rebuilding America's Defenses" a good read. You may find it on William Kristol's website http://www.newamericancentury.org/. The Wright connection of Aids and the US government is probably not as believable as this unabashed neocon call for genome specific biological weapons appearing on the neocon website. All the other neocon goals mentioned in this document have pretty much been implemented by the Bush administration. The question is can we really continue our Imperial Hegemony with the mounting debt? The dollar is declining. If it falls from grace, we face hyper-inflation due to need to reduce debt. This says nothing about moral considerations.
In defense of Rev. Wright PUBLIC LAW 106–398—OCT. 30, 2000 NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION, FISCAL YEAR 2001 See pages 119 ff for a description of what the government knew about the attacks on Pearl Harbor. These writers are convinced that the commanders at Pearl Harbor were wrongly accused of negligence, since the government knew an attack by Japan was imminent.
So based on the below data we are to believe the CIA created the AIDS virus and further justify Rev Wrights spewing of venum? eh hem, That was your intent? Thank you for the insightful information ;-)
Information concerning Rev. Wright Congressional Record May 7, 1998 Entered by John Conyers A Tangled Web: A History of CIA Complicity in Drug International Trafficking WORLD WAR II The Office of Strategic Services (OSS) and the Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI), the CIA's parent and sister organizations, cultivate relations with the leaders of the Italian Mafia, recruiting heavily from the New York and Chicago underworlds, whose members, including Charles ``Lucky'' Luciano, Meyer Lansky, Joe Adonis, and Frank Costello, help the agencies keep in touch with Sicilian Mafia leaders exiled by Italian dictator Benito Mussolini. Domestically, the aim is to prevent sabotage on East Coast ports, while in Italy the goal is to gain intelligence on Sicily prior to the allied invasions and to suppress the burgeoning Italian Communist Party. Imprisoned in New York, Luciano earns a pardon for his wartime service and is deported to Italy, where he proceeds to build his heroin empire, first by diverting supplies from the legal market, before developing connections in Lebanon and Turkey that supply morphine base to labs in Sicily. The OSS and ONI also work closely with Chinese gangsters who control vast supplies of opium, morphine and heroin, helping to establish the...
Information concerning Rev. Wright Congressional Record May 7, 1998 Entered by John Conyers A Tangled Web: A History of CIA Complicity in Drug International Trafficking WORLD WAR II The Office of Strategic Services (OSS) and the Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI), the CIA's parent and sister organizations, cultivate relations with the leaders of the Italian Mafia, recruiting heavily from the New York and Chicago underworlds, whose members, including Charles ``Lucky'' Luciano, Meyer Lansky, Joe Adonis, and Frank Costello, help the agencies keep in touch with Sicilian Mafia leaders exiled by Italian dictator Benito Mussolini. Domestically, the aim is to prevent sabotage on East Coast ports, while in Italy the goal is to gain intelligence on Sicily prior to the allied invasions and to suppress the burgeoning Italian Communist Party. Imprisoned in New York, Luciano earns a pardon for his wartime service and is deported to Italy, where he proceeds to build his heroin empire, first by diverting supplies from the legal market, before developing connections in Lebanon and Turkey that supply morphine base to labs in Sicily. The OSS and ONI also work closely with Chinese gangsters who control vast supplies of opium, morphine and heroin, helping to establish the...
Thank you for pointing out the hypocrisy of the media's portrayal of Rev. Wright vs. Rev. Hagee or Pat Robertson. There is no other way to view the obvious difference except to express outrage at the overt racism in coverage.
Tonight for 9 long viewer paid for, wasted minutes Mr Moyers attempts to justify his obvious sympathetic cuddling of Rev Wright. Bill get over it already. You and all of the PBS sponsors know you lips were chapped after that obvious butt kissing session last week.
When people claim that this story was somehow created by "corporate media," I truly wonder what it is they are talking about. First, the video recording of Wright's sermons was done by his own church, not the corporate media. The networks used portions of those recordings, of course, but the original capture was done by Trinity. So, far, no "corporate media." When Obama decided to speak out ultimately, he did it on his own terms, in a speech in Philadelphia, which I heard on an NPR radio station, not "corporate media." Next, Wright goes to Detroit, at the invitation of the NAACP branch there. And he gives his speech, without intereference from the "coporate media." Finally, Wright goes to Washington and the National Press Club, which is broadcast on C-SPAN. C-SPAN! Is that what counts as "corporate media?" This is so weird. Even when your candidate, your hoped-for leader of the free world says that his fellow Americans are "rightly offended" by Wright's comments (and not by "corporate media"), some of the Bill Moyers faithful are still defending Wright and thanking Bill Moyers for not having asked him any hard questions when he had the chance.
I was extremely disappointed with Bill Moyers and this interview. He spent more time coddling Wright than holding him accountable to any of the ridiculous and insulting things that he has said...
Just a couple comments/questions here: Can Rev. Jeremiah Wright's church retain it's tax free status? Where is the ACLU? They must still be busy with last years Christmas nativity scenes. If comments like this were made in a white church, there would be hell to pay. White churches can barely hand out voting registration cards - wow the ACLU wouldn't be ignoring this story - would they? I find that hard to believe. Here is a pastor that supports abortion, and nobody is saying a word. Do I need to remind him that the founder of the abortion movement - Margaret Sanger's goal was to target and eliminate minorities. Oh - by the way, when did Jesus Christ become pro-abortion? Excuse me - pro-choice? Did I miss it in the Bible or in one of my pastor's sermons? All of you naive people that still believe Rev. JW comments were taken out of context should continue to support his ministry and his new 10,000 SF home in his new white neighborhood. Did I say white neighborhood - oh the horror! Don't forget to throw in some gas money for his Mercedes. I had no idea the people of this Chicago...
The Journal interview with Wright was Moyers at his best: presenting us with the depth of context, giving a man who had been vilified for utterly partisan reasons the opportunity to focus on his life overall, a life of great merit. Wright's subsequent appearances at the Press Club and elsewhere, however, and particularly the timing of those appearances, do make me wonder what his goals are. It is sad to see such self-serving arrogance on the part of someone who clearly has contributed to society. Wright's comments, offensive to some while plausible to others, are no longer the primary focus. The corporate press's insistence on keeping this story alive, and Wright's own stoking of the fires, only diverts attention from the very serious issues at hand, and the campaign of perhaps the only candidate committed to addressing those issues head on.
I wish I could do more, I wish I could write more, and create work that makes a difference, and inspires people to think, to accept truth and question the lies that we are being fed by media that is so obviously controlled by corporations, who’s sole interest is to sell and make money at what ever cost. I wonder if I’m just wasting my time right now and instead of trying to think these things through, and question in my mind the issues that matter in our world, for our own well being and the well being of our children, I shouldn’t be out there enjoying the sun, drinking, dancing, laughing, and ignoring the blister that impedes me from walking with grace. Is it all the same? Will the powers that have a hold on our psyche always get away with murder and treason, until that day arrives, that unfortunate end, when it’s too late and we all are forced to suffer the consequences. I can’t stand the idea that so many wonderful people out there believe that nothing is wrong, as long as they are comfortably numb, and that the only topic of importance is whether Obama should...
Just imagine if Rev. John Hagee went on television before a national audience and said, "Hurricane Katrina was visited upon New Orleans because of its sinful embrace of homosexuals, transvestites, prostitutes and all other manner of vice. And the Roman Catholic Church is nothing but a cult." Imagine further in the course of that interview, Rev. Hagee talked about the importance of morality in our public discourse, preventing teen pregnancy and drug abuse, discouraging divorce and domestic violence. Does anyone among the Bill Moyers loyalists think, for even a moment that the "Katrina" and "Catholic" comments would not draw the most attention? And would the faithful be saying, "He may be controversial, but he has a right to his opinions, and he has a message worth listening to"? No way. And Bill Moyers would not be inviting Hagee onto his program to "explain" his views in some kind of greater context. Commenter Lyn-MD wrote this about Wright: "Wright is in part basing his distrust of the government, concerning his views on the HIV virus and the black community, on the Tuskegee syphilis experiment. No one really knows if it is a valid fact or not." Say what? "No one really...
Will the real J. Wright please stand up! Dem. have some good issues, but the noise filtering out intended communication has rarely, if ever, been louder! J. Wright's snippets became a problem for Obama & then an attempt to justify them was made, the hope was that the issue was over. J. Wright appeared on Moyers' & smiled, was mild mannered, was calm, but said Obama was just speaking politics & did not distance hinself from his ole mentor & pastor. Ooops! This renewed "the issue" & enlarged the coverage. Obama had justified Wright & to now denounce him would be a flip-flop--which would be an equally large problem. What to do? The National Press Club allowed J. Wright to speak & his weird appearance allowed Obama the needed "change" he has been looking for & then was able to say Rev. Wright was not the man he thought he knew for 20 yrs. Did this solve the Wright issue or did the right issue come to the surface? Did Obama just admit to having such poor judgement that after spending 20 yrs. with a man that he was not able to judge his message? How will Obama judge how...
I have now listened to the Moyers interview and I found the National Press Club interview to watch. It is true that Rev. Wright was the most effective when he stuck to his prepared remarks. He got silly and mocking when he did the quesion and answer period but even then his answers were very considered and worth listening to. If, as I often do, I was judging a High School debater I would have chided him for his attitude which ultimately detracted from his message. But his message even in his question and answer period was well worth listening to. Rev. Wright may say that this is not about him, it's about an attack on his church, but I would beg to differ. I think the attack has been quite personal and aimed at him. I think his cockiness was a response to that. Last impression: the question and answer period did evoke Jesus and the Pharisees for me. ANd I totally loved it when he they asked the question, quoting scripture, how he viewed Islam in the light of no one can come to God except through Jesus...and he answered scripturally noting that not all of his sheep...
It's interesting, how the Republicans react to what Rev. Wright Said, but say nothing about the Lie Bush told, that caused Thousands to Die.
I would like to see a roundtable discussion with Wright, Hagee, and Parsley - with input from Dr. Marty and Joan Campbell Brown - on the role of religion in American politics. And a complete "airing" and explanation of the statements made: Wrights contention about AIDS, Hagee's proclamation about the Catholic Church; and Parsley's edict on Islam.
Judi, What's scary is the idiot that won two terms in office, and happens to be our current president. The PBS, Bill Moyers interview with Wright, was neither brilliant nor despicable. It was preferable to the tabloid journalism "gotcha" theatrics that we've grown accustomed to. I hope Wright does not go away. You may not agree with everything that he says, but he has a right to his opinion, just like you and others have the right to blindly follow along with everything our government tells us. Most of the country, for the sake of being patriotic, fell for the pathetic, unfounded reasons Bush and Co. gave on the run up to the Iraq invasion. The corporate run media, proudly fell in line. Anyone who questioned it, was deemed unpatriotic and were told, if you're not with us then you're with the terrorist. Wright is in part basing his distrust of the government, concerning his views on the HIV virus and the black community, on the Tuskegee syphilis experiment. No one really knows if it is a valid fact or not. Wright cannot prove it, but can anyone disprove it? It does seem odd that a virus that was once...
Judi, What's scary is the idiot that won two terms in office, and happens to be our current president. The PBS, Bill Moyers interview with Wright, was neither brilliant nor despicable. It was preferable to the tabloid journalism "gotcha" theatrics that we've grown accustomed to. I hope Wright does not go away. You may not agree with everything that he says, but he has a right to his opinion, just like you and others have the right to blindly follow along with everything our government tells us. Most of the country, for the sake of being patriotic, fell for the pathetic, unfounded reasons Bush and Co. gave on the run up to the Iraq invasion. The corporate run media, proudly fell in line. Anyone who questioned it, was deemed unpatriotic and were told, if you're not with us then you're with the terrorist. Wright is in part basing his distrust of the government, concerning his views on the HIV virus and the black community, on the Tuskegee syphilis experiment. No one really knows if it is a valid fact or not. Wright cannot prove it, but can anyone disprove it? It does seem odd that a virus that was once...
Judi, What's scary is the idiot that won two terms in office, and happens to be our current president. The PBS, Bill Moyers interview with Wright, was neither brilliant nor despicable. It was preferable to the tabloid journalism "gotcha" theatrics that we've grown accustomed to. I hope Wright does not go away. You may not agree with everything that he says, but he has a right to his oppinion, just like you and others have the right to blindly follow along with everything our government tells us. Most of the country, for the sake of being patriotic, fell for the pathetic, unfounded reasons Bush and Co. gave on the run up to the Iraq invasion. The corporate run media, proudly fell in line. Anyone who questioned it, was deemed unpatriotic and were told, if you're not with us then you're with the terrorist. Wright is in part basing his distrust of the government, concerning his views on the HIV virus and the black community, on the Tuskegee syphilis experiments, done on men without their knowledge. No one really knows if it is a valid fact or not. Wright cannot prove it, but can anyone disprove it? It does seem odd...
Beware of the Jabbertalkers; they will create death and destruction where ever they go. They remind people of why others should hate other people and undermine their human status so that they can be punished while at the same time exalting themselves. They not only want an eye for an eye; they want a life for a minor mistake or a life just in case "Their Enemy" might be thinking of doing something wrong while at the same time they are doing plenty of evil themselves. Blessed are the peace makers because they will be crucified and all of that for people who are self-righteous bigots. We all fall short of the glory of God and our righteousness is as filthy rags. When will we see the light as Christ taught it and have compassion for our fellow human beings? We are here to live our life and tend the earth not create hell on earth. No religion is better than false pretense. "He who bears the interests of humanity in his breast, that man is blessed." Johann Heinrich Pestalozzi
I don't know why we are wasting time still making statements about this farce of an interview. Maybe if we stop talking about Wright he will go away. But the same things are being repeated daily on here. Let's move on to more important issues. Wright is a lunatic and Obama is a follower. Has been for twenty years. No getting around it. He admitted it himself. Now it's up to the American people who the want for there next President. My personal opinion is that I don't think any of these candidates are capable of running our Country which is so sad. But this topic here has to end. It's tiresome. Wright has only made a fool out of himself. I will make this my last comment on here but I have to say just one more thing about Wright. I think what is even more disturbing is that there are people out there who believe in him and he gets applause. Scary! Let's move on!
As I continue to read the posts of this blog, I'm beginning to think that "some" here are actually against the "truth" contained in Rev. Wright's infamous sermons and his recent rants. While most of us had a huge problem and level of discomfort with recent speeches of Rev. Wright, I do think that there were granules of truth to many of his statements. I also noticed he was quick to disclaim agreement with all of Farrakhan's beliefs as well. So, I thought the Moyer's interview was ok considering. On the other hand, like others, I DID NOT like the melodramatic mannerisms of Rev. Wright in his recent National Press speech. I DID think he appeared as some sort of stand-up, comic grief, not relief, and he so reminded me of the old caricatures of the Black Face. It was awful. The Rev did in fact state things in his sermons and in his recent speeches which I've heard ordinary White and Black citizens have said...especially regarding the 911 crisis. I've heard people of all backgrounds, (yes White too) say that the U.S.A has in some ways placed us in harm's way by our international policies and we have become...
While watching Bill Moyer's interview of pastor Wright, my wife and I were in agreement that he spoke as an intelligent man who has given much serious thought to the positions he has taken on a variety of subjects. He has also taken on the responsibility of making the black community of his church whole, self respecting and involved in the larger community in which it is located. The video tapes of his sermons chastising the U.S. for the actions which may have indeed led to 9/11 was only alarming in the respect that this is not a sermon that takes place in more Christian places of worship. Where are the spiritual leaders who take their flocks to task for committing sins against other humans? Why is there no uproar concerning the church's blind eye to this country's financial and military imperialism as has been and is practiced on many poor countries in the world? As to his accommodation, not acclamation, of Farrakhan, Wright pointed to the good Farrakhan had done with young black men while stating he did not agree with many of his philosophical positions. Jeremiah Wright has now done in Detroit and at the Press Club what...
Ultimately, Rev. Wright may slowly vanish from the public debate and be discounted as a mere distraction, and an irrelevancy to serious discussion. Pretty clearly, he will be kept as far away from the Obama campaign as humanly possible. Then the focus will turn to Obama himself. And whether his dismissal of Wright has been as earnest and yet as painful as some suggest. James Taranto, of the Wall Street Journal's OpinionJournal.com webpage and the Editor of the "Best of the Web" oline column, has pointed out that almost exactly a year ago, the New York Times reported this fascinating exchange: ====== Mr. Wright, who has long prided himself on criticizing the establishment, said he knew that he may not play well in Mr. Obama's audition for the ultimate establishment job. "If Barack gets past the primary, he might have to publicly distance himself from me," Mr. Wright said with a shrug. "I said it to Barack personally, and he said yeah, that might have to happen." The New York Times, April 30, 2007. ====== In other words, the political calculation between Wright and Obama was never any sort of arduous personal exploration by the two of them; rather, it...
Moyers did not explore Wright's racism. Moyers failed to ask Wright why he has called Italian Americans "garlic-nose," and why from the pulpit he has repeatedly badmouthed whites in general. Apparently, Moyers' job was to sanitize the man for the sake of the Obama campaign. Shame on Moyers. How he has fallen. Wright is a fitting albatross hanging from the neck of the junior Illinois senator of ever-so thin credentials. Express all the politic outrage he may, Obama cannot account adequately for a twenty-year close association of "lamb" to pastor, with Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Voters are not idiots. And they know what Obama and Wright know, and what Moyers failed to point out: that you are known by the long-term company you keep.
Hi Bill I am ready for my next interview. Please call me when I should give me next interview on PBS. JW
BEWARE: continued use, over and over again, of long answers, by the same individual/s, is an attempt to SABOTAGE this blog. Those in power are scared of losing their power. The worst thing that could happen to them is for individuals from the MIDDLE CLASS to rise up, and be heard.
Lyn-MD--In all due respect don't quit your day job. They only person confused here is you. Mr. Brown is right on target. Maybe you weren't paying attention to what Obama had said in his last speach.
Just a couple more brief points, John... You said that Moyers extends the same kinds of courtesies to conservative guests as he does his many liberal guests. I think you're mostly right about that, as far as it goes. Moyers doesn't do much "tough questioning" of ANY of his guests. Moyers' style is to attack persons who are not his guests, but to only invite the persons with whom he can ask nice questions. So Moyers invited the great and fascinating black conservative Shelby Steele, and they had an illuminating conversation. But then there's the case of the radical fundamentalist, Rev. John Hagee. The left loves to claim that the same scrutiny that has applied to Wright should apply to Hagee. I mention Hagee here only to point out that Moyers actually did an attack-piece story on Hagee and his ministry and some of HIS inflammatory outbursts (none of which I defend), but he never invited Hagee onto the show. That's really the Moyers modus operandi. An appearance of journalism, but with a very, very soft lens.
Now, John, with respect to the Moyers transcript portions in my post immediately below, those are as close as I could find to "hard questions." If I had been in a courtroom with Moyers and Wright, I'd have said, "Your Honor, he's leading the witness!" The closest thing to a challenge of Wright was Moyers' observation that Farrakhan's anit-semitic remarks had been "inexcusable." But Wright evaded that, and then went on to talk about the good of the Nation of Islam. Personally, I find Farrakhan's role in all of this to be mostly irrelevant. Obama long ago denounced Farrakhan, and rejected Farrakhan's political endorsement. But for his own reasons, apparently, Obama brought it up again this week, probably becuase the National Press Club audience asked Wright a more pointed question about Farrakhan, a better and more insistent question than Moyers' slow-pitch softball, and Wright called Farrakhan one of the great men of the 20th and 21st centuries. But more than anything, Moyers didn't ask Wright, "Why did you claim that there was a U.S. government conspiracy to spread AIDS?" Do you really believe it? Why make the claim if you have no proof to back it up? Isn't it a...
John, It was pretty easy for Bill Moyers to ask, and for Jeremiah Wright to answer, a lot of softball questions like these: BILL MOYERS: Let's start with first things. When did you hear the call to ministry? How did it come? ... BILL MOYERS: So, when Trinity Church says it is unashamedly black and unapologetically Christian, is it embracing a race-based theology? ... BILL MOYERS: So, God is not, contrary to some of the rumors that have been circulated about Trinity, God is not exclusively or totally identified with just the black community? ... BILL MOYERS: What does the church service on Sunday morning mean in general to the black community? ... BILL MOYERS: Are you saying that the members of Trinity leave the world of unemployment, leave the world of discrimination, leave the world of that daily struggle and come to church for- ... BILL MOYERS: Lots of controversy about black liberation theology. As I understand it, black liberation theology reads the bible through the experience of people who have suffered, and who then are able to say to themselves that we read the bible differently, because we have struggled, than those do who have not struggled. Is...
Charles, Moyers asked Wright to explain his "God damn America" comment, his relationship with Louis Farrakhan, etc. The point of this interview was obviously to give Rev. Wright the opportunity to provide the context, beliefs, philosophy, etc. that lies beneath the ubiquitous sound-bites. Bill Moyers gives the same opportunity to all of his guests, many of whom are on the other end of the ideological spectrum from Jeremiah Wright. Could you name other journalists, or news programs, that offer the same sort of respectful dialogue? If you like "journalists" who aggressively corner and shout down individuals they disagree with, while giving corporate and government power structures a free ride, then you have plenty of sources to choose from. But for those, like myself, who appreciate someone who has the mind, spirit and character to have an intelligent conversation with a wide range of guests, and the courage and perspective to expose power abusers, there are few if any like Bill Moyers. In one of your postings, you said that Bill Moyers "role in all of this...(is) a sterling example of journalism as propaganda." I'm sorry, but I find that absurd. What is your opinion of the pro-war propaganda served up...
John, what "tough questions" did Bill Moyers put to Rev. Wright?
When the corporate media was endlessly looping Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld-Rice soundbites about the need to attack Iraq, Bill Moyers was a visionary voice in the wilderness doing what journalists are supposed to do: ask the tough questions. On the fifth anniversary of Bush declaring "mission accomplished", imagine the death, destruction and deficits that could have been spared if more "journalists" had sought the truth, rather than beating the drums for war. Now, the same corporate media feeds us endless loops of Rev. Wright snippets, while barely mentioning the escalating violence in Iraq, Afghanistan, the Administration drum beats for war in Iran, direction of torture by Condi Rice and co., endangerment of public health caused by Administration meddling into EPA science, on and on. Barack Obama's campaign is about a deep change in direction from the lies, corruption and incredible damage perpetrated by the Bush Administration, which Bill Moyers has unflinchingly chronicled from the beginning of their reign. The interview with Rev. Wright gave a context for his sound-bites, that showed that his main message is speaking of God as an ally of the oppressed, the poor, a force for peace. It is no doubt this Rev. Wright that attracted Barack Obama and...
But Lyn - Surely you understand that among the "soundbites" were excerpts in which Wright theorized that AIDS was a government conspiracy. Another "soundbite" (a photo-op, in fact) was Wright honoring Louis Farrakhan. And as to the "coming home to roost comment," even Barack Obama found Wright, IN CONTEXT, to have crossed into an area of disgust and offense when Wright compared the U.S. military to terrorists. Those are only three examples where the "soundbites" appear to have spoken the truth. I chose those three because Obama himself itemized those three in his formal rejection of Wright. what could possibly be clearer? In context, in his own words, Wright repeated his earlier outrageous comments without any editing whatsoever. Barack Obama watched it, and says he was offended. You are of course free to support Rev. Wright if you wish. But there is some kind of schism going on, wherein first Obama and now Northwestern University seem to regard Wright as radioactive. (NU just announced that it is withdrawing its offer of an honorary degree to Wright.) I don't propose to change the minds of devoted liberals. But I do propose to challenge the view that unfair "soundbite media" is what...
Charles Brown, I don't know if you are genuinely confused or if you are deliberately trying to confuse others. The "soundbite media" did make Wright a scapegoat because the soundbites were taken out of context. When you thought you heard Wright saying "Goddam America", on the soundbite, What he really said was "God Damned America", for our past actions against others. "GOD damned America", not Wright asking God to damn America or Wright cursing in church. When you heard " The Roosters are coming home to roost", on the soundbite, what you heard is Wright quoting Peck, the ambasador of Iraq, who happens to be a white man. Mr. Peck made that statement on the Fox network, after 9/11, and there was no uproar about it. The uproar came after Wright quoted Mr. Peck, during a 2001 sermon that was taped. Portions of that video was leaked to the media for obvious reasons. When you observed Wright at subsequent events, after the PBS, Bill Moyers, interview, He was being Pastor Wright, speaking and preaching and answering questions as himself. That is what he does. I guess he could have turned down the rhetoric, but maybe he felt that since Barack...
Some people say God bless Bill Moyers. I say God damn Bill Moyers.
It seems to be an article of faith that Rev. Wright was done wrong by "soundbite media." And that the Bill Moyers interview was so much better than that kind of media. But it was not Bill Moyers' interview that exposed Rev. Wright to Barack Obama. It was the events of the subsequent days -- the Wright speech in Detroit, and the appearance at the National Press Club -- that seem to have exposed Rev. Wright to Obama as a person that Obama had somehow not known for the previous 20 years. Judging by what Obama has determined, the soundbite version of Wright is the more accurate one than the one that was seen on warm and fuzzy Moyers interview. In retrospect, Obama would have done well in his Philadelphia speech to have drawn the lilne in the sand between himself and Wright then and there, instead of saying that he could no more disown Wright than he could disown his white grandmother. Because now, he has disowned Wright. Why is it that "soundbite media" is continually made the scapegoat in the case of Rev. Jeremiah Wright?
Thanks so much, Bill Moyers, for once again giving us a bigger context for the inflammatory sound bites fed to us by the corporate media. I found the interview to be extremely enlightening about the history of race/religion/culture/politics in the US in our time. Reverend Wright is obviously very well educated in these issues and has lived them. I was very inspired by the humanitarian work they're doing in his congregation, that's what churches should be about. I also totally agree with the statements he made that were clipped out of context. I think it's pretty common knowledge that U.S. foreign policy is bringing us back only misery. What goes around, comes around. It's sad that in the name of politics, Barack can't talk about these issues as easily as he can talk about race. Nothing is going to change for the US if we can't confront these issues head-on without being marginalized as America-haters. The wealthy military-industrial complex counts on our "patriotism" to stay in power (over us).
Barack Hussein Obama is indeed doing what politicians do as Rev Wright said. He is distancing himself from Wright now that it is all out in the open. The fact is that BHO and his wife (Michelle O could do stand-up with Wright, she is no different)were comfortable with Wright for 20 years - they knew who he was and what he was about. They could have changed church a long time ago if they weren't comfortable. Why suddendly now? He a running for President, that's why. Don't be hookwinked America - and don't make excuses for the politician BHO.
I may be wrong but I believe that true patriots are always few. That's why they have special recognition in our society and in our history books. That's why they are marked as courageous. If your easy patriotism causes you to believe what the masses believe then you should make sure that you're still a patriot.
The issue is will PBS continue to enable Bill Moyers to continue his leftist agenda using public funds? Barack Obama’s action validated my opinion of Mr Moyers journalism. Moyers had the unique opportunity to illuminate Wright’s comments and their underlying message. He failed to do that, not because he is inept, he is very astute and subtle, but… because he has an agenda. I believe Reverend Wright’s misguided beliefs have been shaped by years of honest, empathetic work in a parish with lots of disadvantaged people. But there is no excuse for Moyers dishonest approach to journalism.
What surprises me is that so many racists (mostly men with curt names) pretend to be surprised and outraged by Jeremiah's conspiracy accusations. The same power and ruthlessness you seem to admire in "your team", the United States, he is describing from "below the deck." (Maybe he ain't personally "below the deck" these days but as a U.C.C. pastor he speaks for the victims current, past and present at home and abroad.) He feels compelled to do this by his faith, and is even disappointed that Obama refuses to sacrifice his campaign by going the distance. I really wish Jeremiah could join with people like myself who are convinced 9/11 was an inside job. I am disappointed that Jeremiah has not gone the distance because the United States has become an organization of covert secrecy and ruthless, cruel behavior in pursuit of profit and suzeranity for its wealthy class. It shows the self-defeating nature of the Nazi mind that they embrace sadistic heirarchy, and undermine their immediate personal interests, by attacking any party accusing their "betters" of crimes against the American people and humanity. Maybe they do it in hopes that the Big Man will pat their little bottom or...
Janet, the generosity and understanding that you are apparently willing to show me and to demonstrate to others appears to be something that Rev. Jeremiah Wright is incapable of in the political context. (And as a now-retired minister and future author on societal and political issues, politics seems to be where his bread is buttered these days.) Wright seems to hold his political enemies ("the government," the Bush Administration, etc.) with such an unusual degree of contempt and hatred that he is willing to perpetrate outlandish and despicable lies, like an "AIDS conspiracy" in order to advance his ajenda and influence his credulous congregants. Janet, I don't think this is a matter of Christian understanding. What Christian purposes are served by spreading an enormous lie about a devastating disease? Persons on the left of the political spectrum seem to like to talk about speaking truth to power. Well Rev. Wright is a powerful man; a wealthy church leader who commands a large enough media audience so that his address to the Detroit Branch of the NAACP was broadcast live on two national television networks. Wright had (now discharged) a prominent position in a national presidential cmpaign. Now, I am speaking...
There are violent comments about Senator Obama on iVillage. One poster has a thread running entitled "I found Obama. He was under a bus" in which he talks about a knife in Obama's back. http://messageboards.ivillage.com/iv-elpoliticsto Yes the statements turn out to be metaphorical if you read the post. This is still unacceptable and inappropriate. iVillage has refused to take down this inappropriately titled thread. I suggest posters get on iVil and express their outrage. These kind of statements need to be stopped and removed. Casual words can lead to action.
Rodney King in 1992: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jgc6vOjCiE (don't read too much into this, I'm just pointing out the call for peace)
I found a an interesting advice on the following blog to which I posted an interesting advice of mine here is the link and my advice: Always "put yourself in the shoes of the other side/the adversary to see if you would like your treatment of others/other-nations. For example see if you would appreciate the manipulative playings (for cynical and illegitimate political gains) with the ancient name (thousands of years old) for a very famous Gulf; the Persian Gulf. Listen to this truthful logic (even from a horrible kicked-out dictator: http://youtube.com/watch?v=hQgZ3oLp_WY&feature=related Shah of Iran on Persian Gulf, and American Jewish Lobby === Frannie Em - 5/1/2008 1:05 AM M Morgan - huh? what kind of shoes did the Shah wear? reply M Morgan - 5/1/2008 1:12 AM Listen to it (click the link) to find out that he had been wearing the magic shoes of the always-truthful Iranians/Persians. At that moment he had become one with the rest of truth-telling people of the world. reply
A demogogue mixes truth with lies. Rev. Wright has a valid cause to be upset, but his reactions do not always make much sense. The point is that he is not helpful to Senator Obama, to voters, or to himself. Sad.
Charles, I see that you are a person who finds it hard to live with uncertainty. I don't much like it myself but in truth there is little alternative. Once upon a time I was taught an "affirmation"--a statement that you can make to yourself or others that simultaneously acknowledges an individual's imperfection and their inherent worth. It goes like this. "You are a precious, worthwhile, mistake-making person." You, Charles...you, Rev. Wright...all of us are precious, worthwhile, mistake-making persons. So, yes, Charles I can live with it. I can tolerate knowing that Rev. Wright does not have to generate perfection to be able to teach me something. I work with families all of the time and they tell me profoundly silly things about their health conditions. Sometimes it occurs because of miscommunication between physician or health care provider and patient. Sometimes I am dealing with someone who has a limited understanding of their body and its' function. But these folks teach me all sorts of things and I can live with the dissonance even though it bothers me sometimes. So while I do not believe that the government spread AIDS among people, I believe the government's deliberate policy neglect of...
Mr. Moyers: You asked the wrong question, unfortunately, of Rev. Wright. The question is not why say "Damn America" but rather why say "America" as opposed to some Americans, or some American leaders or some individuals. Why does he damn America instead of individuals? Unless, of course, if is appropriate to condemn all for the actions of some.
I apologize to Mr Moyers. Your interview was before Rev Wright told us that blacks have different brains and learn subjectively , not objectively. You did know that he thought the US government created and spread AIDS to kill blacks. I wonder if Trinity UCC give advice to their congregants to not identify their race on social security applications. That would be risky because the Dept of Health and Human Services would know where to find the blacks. Granted they probably used AIDS so it could be done passively. But what if that specific government department (maybe it was the Defense Advance Research Project Agency) decided to get a little more aggressive. You'd have to be very careful about identifying your race.
Posted by: Charles Brown | April 30, 2008 07:12 PM "The third option is that Obama 'condemned' Wright for pure political expediency, but he doesn't really mean it. In which case Obama is a remarkably duplicitous figure.)" [you were responded to Posted by: Janet | April 30, 2008 06:14 PM] RESPONSE: Barack Obama took too long to come out stronger against Reverend Wright's controversial and divisive remarks. Reverend Wright just echoed what Barack Obama has heard previously. Really, nothing new. My conclusion is that political expediency drove Barack Obama to distance himself more from Reverend Wright on Tuesday, April 29, 2008. And, that's why I am appalled.
Amazing to see all the good reasonable moderates just ‘enabling away.’ Apparently Bill Moyer's agrees with Rev Wright that little black children learn differently from whites...God bless their different brains. I guess Bill Moyer's agrees that those black children are 'subject' oriented. As Wright said they just love climbing all over their teachers (the subject) and just can't get into those pesky 'objects' like books. And as Wright implied those teachers were just freaked out that the black children could not stay in their seats. That cracked up the NAACP convention. Whooweee funny. Wake up people. I heard this growing up in Miss. And of course they provided schools for the distinct learning style of all the little black children. My aunt and sunday school teacher stuck my nose in the bible, made me sit there, and taught me, from the Book, that 'Jesus loves the little children, all the children of the world...' That propositional truth from the Bible showed me I could never be a racist. Racism did not comport with the reality of creation, as revealed to us in God’s revelation. (I think T. Jefferson had the same source).
One additional point, janet, because you used a phrase that I find troubling. In civilized discourse, there are statements about which I cannot "agree to disagree." You wrote, "okay, I'm going to agree to disagree on HIV as a plot against blacks..." No. I won't "agree to disagree" on that. I might "agree to disagree" with you on whether Bill Moyers is a good journalist, or who should be our next President. But I shall not "agree to disagree" on 'AIDS as a US government conspiracy. I likewise won't "agree to disagree" with anyone who denies there was a holocaust in 1936-45. I won't "agree to disagree" that 'one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter,' and I won't "agree to disagree" that one racial group is superior to another. Those things are, to use another popular metaphor, "Non-starters." They are non-negotiable. I will not "agree to disagree," and I respectfully suggest to you that you should not either.
I don't understand, Janet. It is one of two things. Either Barack Obama is right, and Wright's comments "rightly offend all Americans, and they should be denounced,"* or else Wright is an important, valid voice in public affairs who has been wrongly denounced by Obama. Which is it for you? (I suppose there is a third option, but I suspect that few of Bill Moyers' loyal viewers would bite. The third option is that Obama 'condemned' Wright for pure political expediency, but he doesn't really mean it. In which case Obama is a remarkably duplicitous figure.) *Per Obama's statement yesterday
Well, Susan, your disingenous and I'm dishonest but all in all, I feel like I'm in good company. Charles, you are absolutely fixated on two points and with that you indict the entire credibility of a man and his life's work. I am under no illusion that I am going to change that for you. My point, which apparently was too nuanced, was that when the first wave of AIDS cases arrived, the national response under Reagan was to ignore. However, gays are as a group more well educated and thus better paid. ANd they used all of their clout to bring attention to the issues. And some of their most strident activists were likewise branded as crazies. But they did an amazing thing. They did get funding for HIV/AIDS research and treatment that made a difference. They were pretty activist with their own people and for a time waged pretty effective safer sex campaigns. Now I claim to be no expert on HIV/AIDS health policy but a widely impacted group who is not particularly well funded or activist is IV drug users and women. Blacks are disproportionately represented in this group. These are facts. These are facts that have...
Susan, you're being disingenuous. Rev. Wright brought up the Tuskegee experiment in order to scare his listeners into thinking that it was quite likely that the U.S. government similarly created the AIDS virus. It is a hateful lie to suggest that, no matter how nuanced you may want to be. Barack Obama knew that, and that is why he condemned Rev. Wright in the strongest possible terms. Rev. Wright's suggestion of a government AIDS conspiracy to his listeners (one poll suggests that 26% of black Americans share that view) is, in my humble opinion, very near to a form of hate-speech, so offensive it is to our civilized society and to rational discourse. Let's be clear about why Wright would do such a thing. It is utterly inexplicable on theological grounds to scare a susceptible audience and plant such falsehoods with them. But it is explainable if Wright views himself as a quasi-politician, a local kingamker in Chicago ward politics, where he is saying to his congregants: "Don't believe what you hear in the news. I know better. The U.S. government is evil and it is out to get you, but there is hope for you with my church. I'll...
Once again we are not aware of the destruction we are causing. Some of us know better, other don't even care. Here we have two people representing others, acting like children. We all know racism still exist. Among our own races and against others. Because ignorant adults taught their children how to hate. I think if we focus more on what God's plan for our lives then what this person thinks,has or done; this world would definitely be more peaceful. We take too much time trying to satisfy everyone. That is God's job. People stop playing GOD and let his will be done. If we could come together in prayer as much as we come together to tear one another down, the world would be a better place. But the book of Revelation prepares us for this time. Be wise in your decision making and listen to GOD not just what you hear and see!
Lyn from MD - well said. Have you considered running for office? :-) To Appalled, to address your views: As to the AIDS statement in Rev. Wright's sermon, when I first heard in the sound bite, I was appalled, too. I couldn't believe a learned man like him would say something so ludicrous. However, when I saw the context in which he said it, I understood. He was saying that instead of putting our trust in government, we should put our trust in God. He cited the infamous Tuskegee experiment where black men were infected with syphilis. He said he wouldn't be surprised if AIDS had been planted, etc. He wasn't saying it had happened - just that, governments can do bad to people. So don't put your trust in governments. Put your trust in God. It is our faith in Christ that leads us to speak up on behalf of the downtrodden, the exploited, the poor, and the oppressed. Please see Luke 4:18-21. Also interesting to note: After Jesus preached that sermon, they tried to throw him off a cliff! Folks haven't changed much over the centuries, it seems. A church that has gone from 87 to 8000 members...
I would like to say one main point. I am of African American decent. None of had a choice on what our race would be God did when he created us. He created us each different. But why must we as a people continue to find faults in others be it Pastors, Politicians, everyday people. I wish many of us could just keep our free minds we had as children. Ignorant adults teach our children were different. Whether it is your color, a disability or whatever.We all have a history and a past. Talk about it, yes. Dwell on it NO. Learn from it. When will we learn from it? Life is too short to discuss the small stuff...I feel sorry for us all, because believing this, believing that. Believe in God, pray about the decisions you make and the RIGHT person will be our PRESIDENT!
Brava, Lyn, for your thoughtful comments, in particular "The problem is, most of Barack's supporters ended up embracing Pastor Wright, after seeing the PBS, Bill Moyers interview, and with Barack now, rejecting Pastor Wright, it is surely looking like Barack is just a politician." I admit that I assumed that the Rev. Wright must be a "wackadoodle" until I listened to the Moyers interview and two of the Rev's sermons; I saw that the inflammatory soundbites (chickens coming home to roost, G-D America), were part of an argument more nuanced and supportable when heard in context. I'm not yet ready to join the Jeremiah Wright Fan Club, but I do wish that we'd stop demonizing the man, stop forcing Barack Obama to defend or denounce him, and get on with life. The Rev himself can get back to ministering to his congregation.
Dr, The thing that scares me the most is someone like you is in a position to teach our children your leftwing propaganda.By the way, I'm black !
The only people who don't believe that America could even possibly be damned are those who are causing it to possibly be damned.
I watched and listened carefully to Bill Moyers' interview with the Reverend Jeremiah Wright, and I also watched the segment with Wright on 'The NewsHour With Jim Lehrer' for April 28, 2008. The Reverend Wright is a charming, charismatic person who says exactly what he thinks. In the main I agree with his statements. I am Caucasian, but I have taught African-American literature for decades, and I also have many African-American friends. On the basis of what I have learned from them, and also from the writing of Richard Wright, James Baldwin, Ralph Ellison, and other black authors, I understand why the Reverend Wright said what he did. Were I black, I would say 'G-d damn America' as well. I'll say it anyhow, because the country with its insatiable appetite for war is rapidly becoming the most corrupt and dangerous nation in history.
"The whole commerce between master and slave is a perpetual exercise of the most boisterous passions, the most unremitting despotism on the one part, and degrading submissions on the other. Can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with his wrath? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just: that his justice cannot sleep forever." -Thomas Jefferson damning America (1781)
Thank you PBS for this great interview. Fox News has people convinced that the litmus test for a good interview is how often the host badgers or interrupts the interviewee. Thank you for reminding us that a lot can be learned by listening.
First, I definitely differ with the Rev. on certain points on the spread of HIV/AIDS, drugs etc. They are all very conspiratorial. But, by the same token, anything, though improbable, is still possible. Overall, I see a good man in Rev. Wright who harbors a few dissenting opinions with which I vastly disagree. I also think Mr. Moyers could have been a lot tougher on those issues. This was not a horrible interview, not an A, but not horrible.
Oh come on, Janet. Your response is practically dishonest in its non-responsiveness. What Rev. Wright said about AIDS wasn't nuanced. He wasn't making any sympathetic points about gay life in America. you'd have to question the gay rights credentials of anyone who so enthusiastically praises Louis Farrakhan anyway, wouldn't you? Wright CHOSE to exploit a comparison to the infamous "Tuskegee experiment" in his mention of AIDS and the government. He referred the National Press Club to a book by a notorious conspiracy theorist. Those aren't nuanced, intelligent responses by Wright. What it is, is pandering, to the lowest and least-informed among Wright's select audience. It is shameful, intolerable. Barack Obama said so; do you somehow not agree with Obama's pronouncement on the subject?
First, I definitely differ with the Rev. on certain points on the spread of HIV/AIDS, drugs etc. They are all very conspiratorial. But, by the same token, anything, though improbable, is still possible. Overall, I see a good man in Rev. Wright who harbors a few dissenting opinions with which I vastly disagree. I also think Mr. Moyers could have been a lot tougher on those issues. This was not a horrible interview, not an A, but not horrible.
I peruse the blogs almost everyday since Barack began his campaign. I love Barack and I will support him in the General, but I think Barack has made a BIG mistake in the way he handled the Jeremiah Wright issue. I thought his speech on race relations was needed and the right thing to do, but I feel that when those sound bites first appeared, Barack should have immediately diffused the situation by stating adamantly, that his former pastor is not a racist, and he does not hate America. He should have followed that up with, he is just very passionate and concerned about the state of black America, and he teaches and preaches black pride, and how to better the black family and community. There is nothing racist in that. Just like Jews, and the Irish, and other nationalities take pride in and celebrate their ethnicities, and help their communities. He should have made it clear that Pastor Wright never preached black supremacy, or hate for any other race. He should have made it very clear that as far as the sound bites were concerned, not only was he not in attendance on those days, but he would have...
Susan | April 30, 2008 12:01 PM "The role of the pastor - in the black or white church - is to speak truth to power. That is part of our prophetic role." RESPONSE: Reverend is embroiled in controversy because he has used his clergy position to espouse ideas that are not connected to the teachings of Jesus Christ. In his position, he has told [paraphrase] people that the US govt. created the AIDS virus to kill black people. In his position, he has told [paraphrased] people that the US govt. brings drugs into black communities to imprison blacks. Telling these things to people will, probably, not lead them any closer to accept God's free gift of salvation in Jesus Christ, which is the most important thing he could ever do. And, that's why I am appalled.
Charles, my Pastor preaches that birth control is bad. I tend to get my health information from health resources. (I'm a nurse.) While I do not think that the authorities "created" HIV for blacks, American policy certainly selects who gets health care. And I think history indicates that it took strong gay activism to mobilize an American HIV response. You can say that the government was slow to respond or that they were slow to respond becauses of the de-valuation of gays but the net impact was the same. A lot of gays died and the AIDS epidemic amplified. When my son was little we would watch a movie and he would ask (about characters), "Is he bad?" And we'd give it to him in a nutshell. But you seem to have the same taxonomy as my then pre-schooler. People are either good or bad, right or wrong. I would suggest to you that Rev. Wright is not always right but he does have something to say and maybe you ought to listen.
I want to hammer this point for Pastor Susan's benefit one more time. These are the words of Barack Obama as he figuratively threw Rev. Wright overboard, concering the statements that much of the world found to be loony, but about which Bill Moyers never asked Wright. Senator Barack Obama: "Now, I've already denounced the comments that had appeared in these previous sermons. As I said I had not heard them before. And I gave him the benefit of the doubt in my speech in Philadelphia, explaining that he has done enormous good in the church, he's built a wonderful congregation, the people of Trinity are wonderful people, and what attracted me has always been their ministry's reach beyond the church walls. But when he states and then amplifies such ridiculous propositions as the U.S. government somehow being involved in AIDS; when he suggests that Minister Farrakhan somehow represents one of the greatest voices of the 20th and 21st century; when he equates the United States' wartime efforts with terrorism, then there are no excuses. They offend me, they rightly offend all Americans, and they should be denounced. And that's what I'm doing very clearly and unequivocally here today." Apparently...
Susan, as an assistant pastor, are you comfortable with Rev. Wright having preached that the inception and spread of the AIDS virus may have been plotted by the U.S. government through the CIA? Do you think that serves the interest of the church and the community? Do you not think that such statements are an affront and an abomination to persons who are HIV-positive and who live in fear of AIDS? Do you think that Barack Obama was right, or wrong, to condemn the comments of Rev. Wright ON MONDAY OF THIS WEEK, about the origin and spread of AIDS, or his praise for Minister Louis Farrakhan, or his comparison of the American military to terrorists? Clearly and unequivocally, those comments were an offense to Barack Obama. Do you think that Obama is somehow mistaken in his response to Rev. Wright's comments?
Thank you, Bill Moyers, for presenting the interview with Rev. Wright. Based on comments here, I decided to look for myself at the speech Rev. Wright gave at the National Press Club. There was nothing out of line at all with what he said. Rather than posturing, he said it like it is. I am a white minister of the Gospel and have studied liberation theology and MLK in depth. Rev. Wright's comments were right in line with the kinds of theology studied in accredited seminaries. He is absolutely correct that the dominant society has no idea what the black church is about. There is great misunderstanding out there, especially among us whites. What I am hearing in some of the comments is an incorrect assumption: that if you are pro-black, you are automatically anti-white. (I call it "white fear" - our society instills it in us, sadly.) Rev. Wright is pro-everybody, regardless of color. (I know white folks who've been members of his church for years and believe me, they would not stand for any kind of racism.) Trinity UCC is about black empowerment, which means they work to help black people become the people God meant them to...
I remain surprised that there are still people who defend the Moyers interview as having shown the "true" Jeremiah Wright, when Barack Obama himself now says that after 20 years, he now feels that he doesn't know the person that Wright has become. It is simple. Moyers' goal was to help "sell" Wright to the American public. The National Press Club's goal was to question Wright. That fundamental difference puts Bill Moyers to shame, as a professional journalist. None of what has happened to Wright over the course of the past week is the result of editing or sound bites. Wright had his full address to the Detroit NAACP broadcast in full and live on two national cable networks. At the National Press Club, he had a chance to speak fully on his own prior to answering queations. Then, the questions themselves were moderated and the answers were unedited as I viewed it. I was one of many millions who correctly appraised Wright as soon as I saw him. The questions now are why did Obama not see this coming before, and why did Bill Moyers' interview obscure the reality that Wright demonstrated on his own just a few days...
Coronado | April 30, 2008 09:48 AM You quoted the Christian Scripture James 3:7-10. RESPONSE: I agree with you! And, I don't think some of Reverend Wright's comments follow Christian Scripture, and that's why I am appalled.
James 3:7-10 7 For every kind of beast and bird, of reptile and creature of the sea, is tamed and has been tamed by mankind. 8 But no man can tame the tongue. It is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison. 9 With it we bless our God and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in the similitude of God. 10 Out of the same mouth proceed blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not to be so.
I heard Bill Moyers excellent interview and I agree with Rev. Wright, which is why the media is really to blame for allowing distorted messages which do not show the whole picture to be presented. Of course big media conglomerates are afraid of Obama because if he kills the special interests, who will advertise on their network? It is so hypocritical for the FCC to get huffy and fine the network's about Janet Jackson's boob and yet do NOTHING about allowing network's to air distorted excerpts from speeches. Tell me, which one corrupts the moral fiber of this country more? Thank God for Bill Moyers and shame on the FCC and the networks.
Posted by: Amy Miller | April 30, 2008 12:05 AM "...I have learned through the Rev. Wright incident and through this blog. I appreciate the willingness of people (such as "Appalled") to help me understand their views..." RESPONSE: Amy, I have learned a lot from you and others who have posted on this blog. As I have stated previously, too many Christian leaders dive too deeply into the political arena. At times, this may be necessary, but I believe that Reverend Wright goes too far, unnecessarily. And, I don't understand why people say "prophetic" or the "prophetic black church." I believe Jesus Christ was the last "real" prophet. There are a lot of people today, who say they are prophets, and only God will be able to properly judge those who deceptively tout themseleves as prophets. As I opened up my daily Scripture lesson, this is what it said. Ephesians 4:30-31 (Apostle Paul writing) "And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. Get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with every form of malice."
I was impressed with the reasonable way Moyers spoke to Wright which was a very different style to the rude style of Bill O'Reilly. FoxMedia (Faux) spend an inordinate amount of time on this matter. Thank God for Larry King and the BBC News. I suppose you Americans have an egocentric view of the world. Your economy was built on slavery and later low paid employees.
Richard, Your words are so insightful. We are allowing those who would destroy our nation in their continued quest for power and money. Senator Obama is that voice of change and the 'powers' that be are trying to silence him. But, this is America and we have the freedom to oppose this nonsense. We can push back as citizens by doing 3 things: 1) Click PBS home page, click 'support PBS' and make a donation of any size to this great network. Also, report 'user' abuse from right winged news anchors,hiding behind user names. You can tell who they are because their posts stop when they have to go on air. 2) Start a petition letter and send it in to the networks that allow these knuckleheads to spew their venom. Refuse to support their sponsors. They will listen. 3)Volunteer to help the candidate of your choice. Join their campaign.Work harder than ever to get them elected. Let's show the media that 'dirty' politics don't work. It's a new day in America. It's up to us to get that message out. Do not be willing participants in this nasty mind game that the political pundits are playing. IT'S TIME FOR...
In the 21th century of America, some use religion to get elected and further personal agenda for enrichment of a few in the name of the God. However, the real religon leader speaking with a belief that there is a higher order than the government will be crucified. There is a good reason why our media would pay more attention to what a pastor said than what Bush did. Those who control our nation resist the candidate who can possibly bring in changes.
In the 21th century of America, some use religion to get elected and further personal agenda for enrichment of a few in the name of the God. However, the real religon leader speaking with a belief that there is a higher order than the government will be crucified. There is a good reason why our media would pay more attention to what a pastor said than what Bush did. Those who control our nation resist the candidate who can possibly bring in changes.
Odd. I still think Moyers did the right thing in letting Wright tell his side of the story, since he had been maligned for weeks without getting such an opportunity from the mainstream media. Yet having watched the National Press Club comments, I just found him inappropriately goofy. Not hate-filled, not ideological, just goofy like the class clown. Like, "what on earth is he smoking?"
Mr Moyers, you're a hack journalist. The only thing that makes me angry is that you get paid with public money. Some of it - mine. I never witnessed such a fluff reporting job in my whole life. Rev. Jeremiah Wright needs to repent. This whole idea of bits of his speeches being taken out of context is a joke. You are a intelligent man that does not tell the truth anymore. 'Pride comes before a fall'.
Judi, One strike and you're out? PBS as a whole is responsible for one interview for all time? As a sinner myself, I hope you're not a friend or family member of mine 'cause I screw up a lot more than that and I need forgiveness.
I have read with considerable interest, the many posts pro and con the whole Rev. Wright debacle. Many of these posts have been insightful and educational. Others have shown that some people are in need of enlightenment on the issues and concerns of different cultural groups and their experiences. Some posts have shown downright ignorance. I do appreciate the Moyer's interview with Rev. Wright last Friday. It "did" give people an opportunity to see a different side of the man. I was impressed with all of his accomplishments in his own and the larger African-American community. He established a very dynamic and self-sufficient church work which began with merely 80 or so parishioners and grew to almost 10,000. That's pretty inpressive in this day and age. His contributions to God's work with the varied ministries can never be taken from him....period. On the other hand, dear Rev. Wright definetly needs to re-evaluate himself before the larger body of Christ. He has offended many people with his beliefs, diction, rhetoric, and I'd also say...melodramatic style. We are encouraged to be examples of the believers in "word and spirit" and to "not sin, by offending our brothers and sisters." Unfortunately, in the...
I watch PBS all the time and enjoy most of there programs but they flunked miserably on this one. I will not support them anymore and that saddens me. Because like I said I really enjoyed there programs. I could have given a better interview. Shame on Mr. Moyers for not exposing Wright for who he really is.
Well, now,,, First we have an interview which supports the premise that Rev. Wright is mis-used and misunderstood because he is being smeared by sound bites. Mr. Moyers fully supports this premise in his questions and comments. The "saint" leaves, halo restored. Then, the "saint" shows his true self in the various speeches, presentations, etc in which he loudly states everything he and Moyers agreed were trumped up. Then, I read an article from Rolling Stone (Feb. 22, 2007) in which words from a Rev. Wright sermon are included. The same hate-filled tirade as shown in the videos and recently as yesterday's live performances. Mr. Moyers must (should) be embarrassed to have the wool pulled over his eyes. He should have done more research into the Reverend's beliefs and comments prior to the show and should have taken him to task for his comments. Bill should have asked him to explain rather than allow him to claim it was taken out of context. Veracity - the truth - is the first law of journalism. Mr. Moyers broke that law. I don't understand his rationale for that decision but it does sadden me. I am a firm supporter of public television...
"Lily" referred to the Bible (I think mainly the OT) in asking whether pastors should make political statements. Although that's a good place to start, I think it may be one of the areas in the Bible where we do have to look at the differences in culture and communication between ancient Israel and contemporary America. In the former case, a prophet would generally speak to his people face-to-face; if it was not possible for someone to hear the original sermon, he or she would receive it by work of mouth from someone who was there. It was pretty clear what these prophets meant: there were no out-of-context sound bites and no cultural divides. In our society we are constantly bombarded with messages that we have little or no time to listen to. We have many subcultures within our greater culture, so the words used by Rev. Wright (or even the late Rev. Jerry Falwell) have different connotations for their immediate followers than for many in the culture at large. After all, when we study the Bible and don't just read the words, we learn the various contexts and assumptions of the societies in which they were originally written. This...
Dear Mr. Moyers. I have watched you and your programs since the 1980’s and have enjoyed and agreed with most everything you stand for. We are very much aligned ideologically and politically while sharing a certain activist bent and genuine empathy for the injustices in this world. Your insight is profound. I have on many occasions called you my hero, and wished I chose journalism as a career. However, your interview of Rev. Jeremiah Wright left me disappointed and empty. I listened intently to your broadcast and tried to be fair in my observation, since I have so much respect for you and your views. I felt it necessary to give both you and Rev. Wright the benefit of the doubt, considering his public vilification over the youtube video clips portraying him as a virulent, angry militant black man with an agenda. Your delicate treatment of his controversial, divisive, inflammatory views and ideology gave him a forum to temper his views into acceptance. The delivery of a message can alter the message itself, and your program changed that very same message, sugar coating the one he was delivering with anger, bitterness, and vitriol in his pulpit with one of clarity...
The Rev. Mr. Wright made a positive impression during his interview with Mr. Moyers. Nothing else that the media reported about the man the rest of the weekend made a positive impression.
Hey Michele, is your last name Obama ?
I was not surprised when on the morning of Sept the 11th 2001, I heard that the World Trade Center was attacked! "Americas chickens had come home to roast." It's not the greatest of phrases, but it's true. I've listened to Wright's three events from this weekend and I have to say, that as an Irish emigrant living here for twenty years I understand and agree with everything he says. He is right on! He is not running for office, he does not have to be politically correct. I hear echoes of Martin Luther King's denunciation of America, as well as Martin Luther Kings love of America in his words. There is no hate in his speech. Anger, yes! But also hope. The audacity of hope...and anger...and truth! There are differences between the races! And there is at least subtle racism everywhere. This country was built on as much terrorism as heroism but we would would rather believe the fairy tales. Wright shows us a more realistic view and it's not a pretty sight.
The Rev. Mr. Wright impressed me in his interview with Mr. Moyers. He said much that we need to say and hear. He speaks from what we know directly and indirectly about racism, imperialism, and out-of-control capitalism in the United States, but he still seems to distort what he says with a bitterness that undermines constructive responses to the problems we endure. I appreciate that Mr. Moyers interviewed the Rev. Mr. Wright for an hour and gave him, what I think, is a fair hearing.
Discourse should be carried out at this level: the courteous Rev. Wright allows us to weigh his perspective, and the less excitable among us see much to ponder. An admirable interview. What a pity the attention of the body politic is limited to the duration of a TV ad (and what a tragedy that so admirable a person as Mr Obama should be so hasty today as to condemn the reverend from fresh hearsay, and so fall into its trap).
And when all is said and done, most of us will believe what we want to believe. Thx to Bill and PBS for the Wright interview. Once again I was reminded why Bill Moyers is the only hour of American TV I watch.
Well, I watched the interview and I watched the sermons....and felt I'd been suckered by the MSM. Then, I watched Rev. Wright do everything he could to ruin Mr. Obamas' chances to win the nomination and felt I'd been suckered by Rev. Wright. Good God, this nation is one f***ed up mess. There is no hope for the good-hearted people in this land. We're doomed.
It will not be lost on Mr. Moyers that several times in referring to the Friday night interview during his remarks on Monday, Reverend Wright announced, somewhat as an aside, that oh, that particular part of the interview was cut. I think we all have been played, by someone who has a very mixed up opinion of himself, of people in general, and if it has already been stated that these are the actions of someone of malicious intent against a presidential candidate, then I join that side of the argument. The Reverend dissembles. He has made himself the center of attention in order to bring down Mr. Obama because the latter separated himself from his histrionics. This is very sad for both of them. I do not think this display of egotism on the part of Pastor Wright is at all helpful. He actually joked about the manner of speech of John Kennedy, and he actually suggested (I suppose with a grin) himself as a vice presidential candidate. I can understand why Mr. Obama was offended. Reverend Wright, with Mr. Moyers' perhaps unwitting help, entered the political arena while saying he is 'only' a pastor. It has been a...
Michele did you not hear what Wright said? Problem is this man actually believes what he says. Why do you think Obama is distanting himself from him? You need to listen my dear girl. This man is a maniac.
Allyn---I couldn't agree with you more. I think even Obama feels he's lost this one. Although it is Wright who is acting like a fool Obama is getting the brunt of it. Wright scares me. I'm to a point I don't know who to believe anymore. I am disappointed in all three candidates. Our country is a mess. I want to vote and have no idea who to vote for. I don't think any of them of capable of running our Country. Sad truly sad!
Mr Wright seems to have a genuine love of all people, and it seems if we were to listen to his 'controversial' sermons in thier entirety, and with an open heart, there is much to be learned. I was actually moved by his "God damn America" sermon. It spoke of history to me, not hatred. To me, it meant that human beings never get into trouble if they follow God (I am agnostic, but the basic tennants apply). God will always be true, just, love all mankind regardless of nationality, race, etc... Humans only get into trouble when they try to project the qualities they expect from thier God onto thier Governments. We the People, we as voters, as citizens, would never knowingly vote for someone, or some policy that could be percieved as evil. Therefore, we can get defensive if an action of our government is charactarized or criticized as being evil or of evil intent, as afterall, it is ulimately a judgement on us. And no one likes to be judged poorly. I believe this is what Reverend Wright means... America is a product of man, not God. If the government of America by its policy commits acts...
As an African-American, I became saddened when it became apparent only the most outrageous accusations of Wright's has often turned out to be the focus. After listening to him, I have found he not only has a grasp of history, but is extremely insightful, with the ability to explain the true calling of the black church-to call for justice and reconcilation. But when Rev. Wright yelled AIDS conspiracy from the pulpit and neither retracts nor provides proof for his accusations, his main message gets shunted by the wayside. And all some people get is AIDS and Farrakhan on the brain. I think Obama was geniune in his anger. The problem is, is some people, and I even read it happening on this blog, is that people will be inclined to dismiss the important truths that Wright brings up. And that I think is very sad. A baby out with the bath water kind of thing. BTW: The African-American slave experience was unlike any other immigrant story i.e. Irish, Jewish, Polish, or even Afro-Carribean or Afro-Brazilian experience. Unique to this country was the idea that black slaves= animals, a critical distinction. The the legacy of which we ARE CURRENTLY dealing with.
America is & has been in a world of hurt as long as I can remember. For me it started with JFK's killing & LBJ lying about Vietnam & hurting this country to no ends. Now we have Bush & his staff running unchecked. I am not suprised that "The chickens are coming home to roost", just I am surprised 9/11 took so long. P.S. I am white & a disable veteran that has never voted for any politician and don't believe in the american dream anymore. You're all on your own, get used to it.
I just watched the NewsHour and saw Obama destroy any chance he had to be President. Don't blame Dr. Wright for standing up and speaking truth to power. This was the time for Obama to step up and begin the dialog to heal the racial divide and bring this country together, but he played the safe game and lost the nomination. It was time to challenge Americans to live up to the ideals of America, to break from the old ways of fear, and Obama dropped the ball. Dr. Wright, keep speaking truth to power. Don't let anyone silence you. Maybe the next Black candidate will have the strength to stand up and speak truth to the American people. In January 2007 when the Dirty Tricks gang started trying to smear both Hillary and Obama--with the fake e-mails from Hillary's office about the madrasa garbage--I knew that events in this election would make the 2004 "swift boat" garbage look like an episode from Mr. Rogers Neighborhood. Obama is out, who knows what event will sink Hillary now. I suspect that come the convention neither Obama nor Hillary will be the choice. The same thing happened in 1968. All the front...
America is & has been in a world of hurt as long as I can remember. For me it started with JFK's killing & LBJ lying about Vietnam & hurting this country to no ends. Now we have Bush & his staff running unchecked. I am not suprised that "The chickens are coming home to roost", just I am surprised 9/11 took so long. P.S. I am white & a disable veteran that has never voted for any politician and don't believe in the american dream anymore. You're all on your own, get used to it.
America is & has been in a world of hurt as long as I can remember. For me it started with JFK's killing & LBJ lying about Vietnam & hurting this country to no ends. Now we have Bush & his staff running unchecked. I am not suprised that "The chickens are coming home to roost", just I am surprised 9/11 took so long. P.S. I am white & a disable veteran that has never voted for any politician and don't believe in the american dream anymore. You're all on your own, get used to it.
America is & has been in a world of hurt as long as I can remember. For me it started with JFK's killing & LBJ lying about Vietnam & hurting this country to no ends. Now we have Bush & his staff running unchecked. I am not suprised that "The chickens are coming home to roost", just I am surprised 9/11 took so long. P.S. I am white & a disable veteran that has never voted for any politician and don't believe in the american dream anymore. You're all on your own, get used to it.
I'm embarassed that my ignorance is showing! In the last 30 minutes I became aware of the latest on Wright's news conference and Obama's response. I thought we were just talking about the Moyer's conversation. Charles, I think you are right to point out that the Reverend ought to be a better role model...a few minutes ago, I would have said it's not his fault that he has the perspective he has...but at this moment I wonder if he is not an egomaniac looking to have more influence than he deserves. It looks like he is currently riding Obama's tail to have a level of media access he has never had before. His manner is very different than in the sermons or with Moyers. I still stand firm in my belief that Wright is not a lunatic-I believe he has done good work, and as Janet says, he speaks of realities we don't really want to think about. Unfortunately, he also speaks of realities that...aren't real. And right now he is doing some work that doesn't need to be done: delegitimizing the black church, and by extension, wounding Obama. This just feeds straight into the fears whites have about a...
Gina, I admire your courage. I don't like every word that comes out of Rev. Wright's mouth but he is presenting a single perspective that American's don't even like to ponder: that American policy is skewed to profoundly help some and its' cost is mostly disregarded. Rev. Wright is asking us to ponder out cost. Necessarily America prefers the view of itself as an innocent victim on 9/11 and I would echo the person above who says no one really knows the entire truth of much of our recent past, including 9/11, but our policies have brutal impacts both in America and abroad. I personally think that too many forces who could not contemplate a black president will grotesquely balloon Rev. Wright's comments, tie them unequivocably to Obama and will inflame racial tensions to insure that America will not have a black president. Look at Rev. Wright's life works. Yes, it is possible to scrutinize this overfocussed picture the media has created but LOOK at the man's works. He's not perfect. But his overarching plan has helped a lot of people. Americans have lost their ability to do critical thinking. Who wants you to hate and be afraid of this...
Gina, persons of authority in the community, who are educated, are supposed to preach and teach and lead in ways that cure them of sociopathic lies like, "AIDS is a government conspiracy." But Rev. Wright didn't do that. He perpetuated the myth. With a wink to his parishoners, saying in effect, "Don't believe what they are telling you. Listen to me." There is no excusing that. Obama said so today. And yet, Wright said the same thing long, long ago. And Obama didn't condemn it until his advisors told him it was destroying the campaign. And, returning to the topic at hand, Bill Moyers sat Wright down for a long interview and never asked him about it. So shame on Wright, shame on Obama and shame on Bill Moyers. This day is their worst nightmare, and they have all three earned it.
Dennis, Could you give me some of what your smoking....
The Truth Has Been Spoken Some Americans Are Ready For It And Some Are Not.... For The Record I am WHITE.
Hi Charles, No, I was not specifically referring to you, and your response to the Wright controversy is not of the rabid type that is disturbing. Frankly, I think that Obama has to take a very strong stand against Wright unless he wants to look like a anti-American black power leader. I live in NC, one of my jobs is social development with poor minority youth (almost entirely black, even though we have a large Hispanic population). The perspective of Wright is familiar to me as a young white woman because I have been exposed to black social perspectives in a unique way-through the youth...The kids I work with do not yet realize what is off-limits in "polite company." Wright has a specific perspective that echos the ideas of the black grandparents I have met and whose words I hear through their grandchildren. There is a paranoia, a strong distrust of the government (thus the AIDS infection theory-and more). There are truths that support these theories (Tuskegee-and more I probably don't know about), so I understand how the distrust spreads among blacks in this country. I perceive that Obama does not share this perspective, as most black people of his...
I can't decide if two African-American leaders having very public problems with each other is completely tragic, some weird kind of progress, or something imbetween. Is there anything good about this situation?
Gina, perhaps you were referring to my comment, just below, as one of the "unintelligent" comments. What I ask you, in your defense of Rev. Wright, is whether you agree or disagree with Barack Obama when he says the following, which is an edited quote from his press conference today: **** "You know, I have been a member of Trinity United Church of Christ since 1992. I have known Rev. Wright for almost 20 years. The person I saw yesterday was not the person that I met 20 years ago. His comments were not only divisive and destructive, but I believe that they end up giving comfort to those who prey on hate, and I believe that they do not portray accurately the perspective of the black church... But when he states and then amplifies such ridiculous propositions as the U.S. government somehow being involved in AIDS, when he suggests that Minister Farrakhan somehow represents one of the greatest voices of the 20th and 21st century, when he equates the United States' wartime efforts with terrorism, then there are no excuses. They offend me. They rightly offend all Americans. And they should be denounced, and that's what I'm doing very...
Barack Hussein Obama is indeed doing what politicians do as Rev Wright said. He is distancing himself from Wright now that it is all out in the open. The fact is that BHO and his wife were comfortable with Wright for 20 years - they knew who he was and what he was about. They could have changed church a long time ago if they weren't comfortable. Why suddendly now? He a running for President, that's why. Don't be hookwinked America.
Reading the unintelligent responses to Reverend Wright, I can't help but think of this: "They teach the boys to drop fire on people but won't let them write the word 'F***' on their aeroplanes" (Apocalypse Now). I can't imagine how anyone could argue against Wright using logic & awareness of reality. The only stance available to assail him is blind patriotism-which is why, I assume, all the criticism sounds unthought, emotional, and incredibly empty. I admire the work Wright is doing, and I can't argue against a single thing I have heard him say (from this program and on Youtube). If I did not agree with some of his words, this would not affect the worth of his work. By the way, I am not black, and I am not a Christian.
AS I listened to part 1 of this interview, I appreciated the demeanor in which Rev Wright spoke. I agreed with SOME of the things he clarified, but being a person who studies the Bible, He is sharing his views on "God Damning America" in a way that is misleading and inflamatory. When Michael the Archangel was contending with Satan, the Bible says he dared not bring a charge against Satan, he said "The Lord rebuke you". Matthew's account of Jesus' sermon on the mount quotes Jesus as saying bless those who curse you, bless and curse not. The Apostle Paul says do not pay evil for evil, but leave vengance to God. Jesus says do good to those who dispitefully use you. If your enemy is hungry give him food...you heap burning coals (of shame) on his head. The New Covenant of the New Testament of the Gospel of Jesus Christ in no way shape or form incites His followers to stir up seeds that promote further division. Rev Wright like everyone is just a man, at points an intelligent man, but just like Elliot Spitzer who won the governorship of NY position by a landslide, and was praised...
Whatever your politics, it must be conceded that Bill Moyers' interview with Rev. Wright was an abject failure. He failed to ask the salient questions that the members of the National Press Club did, just a couple of days later. In his quest to support liberal politics and a liberal politician, Moyers betrayed his journalism. So it was left to another night (a speech in Detroit) and another forum (the National Press Club) to expose Wright for what he was. It turns out that the much-maligned soundbites were more accurate, more revelatory, than a long interview with Bill Moyers. Now, we know Rev. Jeremiah Wright better. And so does Barack Obama. Obama now says that Wright is not now the same person he thought he knew. But we have all obtained that understanding with no thanks to Bill Moyers, the ol' liberal apologist. Thanks, Bill. For nothing.
After events of the past few days since Bill Moyers interview of Rev. Wright, it is shocking to me to see how so many have attacked Rev. Wright with little regard for journalistic integrity. What was Rev. Wright talking about? What did he say? What did it mean? What did the thousands of individuals in the audience have to say who were cheering Rev. Wright speeches? Reporters seemed to have abandoned their duty. I'm not interested in how angry and incensed the reporters are (and their select commentators), yet this seems to be all we are getting from the corporate news media. I'm bi-racial, Black/White, and in my 50's. What I see the corporate news media doing is the most shallow, biased, hate-based, reporting I've seen in a long while. How sad to see Rev. Wright so abused. Shame on the corporate media, and the few Blacks who have taken advantage of this unfortunate situation. Hear that Juan Williams? It was stunning and sad to see Soledad O’Brien (CNN) report live from the event on how funny, enjoyable, and meaningful Rev. Wright’s “home run” was in delivering his speech at the NAACP dinner—then dramatically shift the next day where she...
I'm sorry. I generally like Moyers, but the comments from Wright are outlandish. Also, Wright made every effort to tone down and appear benevolent, and, from viewing the comments here, many fell for it. Yes, I listened to his entire speech, both the original one aired and the one given in Detroit. Yes, African Americans have been treated horribly in the past. So have other in varying degrees. The Jews. The Irish. The German and Japanese in our country during World War II. The list goes on and on and on and on worldwide. But I don't see the Jewish people, for example, acting out, ranting and spewing. Tuskegee occurred many, many years ago at a time when racism was rampant. It was also done for a progressive purpose, albeit horribly. It was not done to destroy the black population. It was done to study syphilis and it was done on black people because they were seen as inferior, less than human by the people performing the experiments, just as many prisoners on whom experiments are performed today are viewed, just as Jews (who suffered even more horribly)were viewed by the Nazis. To claim that AIDS is spread by the...
Keep up the good work PBS! This interview has totally motivated me back up my moral support of the network with financial contributions as well. It's good to know that news networks with journalistic standards still exist in today's media
Moyers' and MR. Wright! What a pair of anti-American idiots.(Along with the Wright ass kissers on this blog) I fully expected Moyer's to kiss Wrights ass...maybe he did....among other things! The only good thing that has come of this is myself and several neighbors have ended our support and membership to PBS...that is until they get rid of Moyers!
Thanks, I enjoyed your interview with Rev. Wright. He seems to be a man with great passion and convictions and I respect him. I agree & disagree with Rev Wright beliefs, not necessarily Christianity. Nevertheless, I disagree with the views and perception of mass media with its sound bites and misleading headliners. Why are Americans so upset about Rev. Wright’s beliefs on HIV, 911, etc.?? Who knows the truth? Do you? In regards to Obama, who cares what his Pastor believes. Obama's belief system is not solely based on Rev. Wright views. Come on America Wake UP and move forward to the issues that the media are avoiding! One of the things that I did learn from Rev. Wright’s sermon about governments……Governments are only as “good” & “righteous” as the people who are in office and the people that vote them into office. As of today, we, Americans, have declined on our ethics and morals, which explains our government.
Good interview. I'm glad that Mr. Moyers let the Rev. speak and explain himself and his remarks including his intentions, the full context of his words, and some of the basis for his comments (agree with them or not). Sen. Obama has risen above the fray and handled himslef with integrity during this fiasco. The Rev. will obviously continue to say what he feels and let's not forget, that is his right in this wonderful nation - you don't have to agree with him - this is just one man's opinion after all. I believe that Sen. Obama has made his positions crystal clear. The MSM blew this way out of proportion (shocker) - it is a waste of energy at this point, but I found his perspective interesting at a minimum. Let's move on!
This guy has great stuff. I just love it when he said - "Barack Hussein Obama! Barack Hussein Obama! Barack Hussein. It sounds like Osama, Obama.
So Barack Obama is now denouncing Rev Wright. Why? Barack states how Wright's idealogies are divisive and not reflective of his own idealogies. Was Barack the last person on the planet to figure this out? So Barack has OFFICIALLY charged Wright with the same things some of us have been trying to tell you liberals about Wright from the beginning. All I hear from you blow-hard liberals is that we are "twisting the truth" and we're using "snippets" to make false accusations about Wright. Now that you've heard it from the horse's mouth (Obama), what say you now? Do you continue your liberal defense of Wright to spite Conservatives, or do you now side with Obama and admit that you were once again wrong? Do you actually believe that Obama was so out of touch with reality that it took him 20 years to figure it out? Would you still vote for an idiot like that or is he simply lying to us?! Think America, think! None of this adds up in any way. Barack Obama is either a fool or a liar. The sludge that is currently on this board is living proof that you liberals got it wrong...
Sojourner Truth delivered her famous speech, "Ain't I a Woman," at a convention in Akron Ohio in May, 1851 (157 years ago) and this quote is from Wikipedia: "Reminiscences" (from that convention) by Frances Gage: "There were very few women in those days who dared to "speak in meeting"; and the august teachers of the people were seemingly getting the better of us, while the boys in the galleries, and the sneerers among the pews, were hugely enjoying the discomfiture, as they supposed, of the "strong-minded." Some of the tender-skinned friends were on the point of losing dignity, and the atmosphere betokened a storm. (Kind of like now, eh?) When, slowly from her seat in the corner rose Sojourner Truth, who, till now, had scarcely lifted her head. "Don't let her speak!" gasped half a dozen in my ear. She moved slowly and solemnly to the front, laid her old bonnet at her feet, and turned her great speaking eyes to me. There was a hissing sound of disapprobation above and below. I rose and announced "Sojourner Truth," and begged the audience to keep silence for a few moments." "The tumult subsided at once, and every eye was fixed on...
What a different three days makes! After watching your interview with Rev. Wright, I was convinced he was the victim of a babid press corps(which to some extent, he was). But, after seeing his behavior this weekend and at the Press Club, I must now modify my opinion. He is a selfish, posturing, destructive voice, more concerned with taking center stage than engaging in a useful exchange of ideas. Barack Obama gave him the benefit of the doubt, even defended him at some cost to his own standing, because he believed the man was being unfairly caracatured. And how does the good reverend repay him? By demeaning and belittling the essence of his campaign, which is and has been from the start, one of unity and mutual respect. Barack has lived his life in service of closing the racial divide and promoting understanding among all races, religions and social backgrounds. For Wright to demean such efforts as political rhetoric was a classless, even vindictive gesture. Obama today did the right thing. He renounced a man who clearly has no regard for him and who does not truly share his values. It is a pity that the political discourse in this...
Shame on you Bil moyers for the useless interview with Rev wright! the only thing lacking was a kiss! How dare you take public money and personal contributions and not ask ny tough pertinent questions of this out of date racist. Having been rasied with heroes suach as MLK and my personal favorite, Dick Gregory, I am totally disgusted with BillMoyers and this waste of time. How dare you not ask about the HIV, 9-11 comments among others. Never agin wi I make contributions to this obviously left wing medis outlet that has forgotten what it's call letters stand for...PUBLIC Broadcasting system. Fox claims to be "fair and balanced", this is what PBS is supposed to be and why it was formed. You contribututed to the 15 minutes of fame that this zealot is looking for. He has done more to set back race realtions than any white zealot could ever ask for. He may as well join the US of KKK hinself. I'm sure that the KKK is laughig all the way in their white robes. Terrible, Bill, for your lack of honest journalism, you should be removed from the taxpayers public funded system today! You did nothing but...
After Senator Obama's complete divorce from his ex-pastor today, I'm struck by how long ago last Friday seems. Bill, I still think your interview was well done! My views concerning that, or you, hasn't changed. My views of your subject, however, has. People are responsible for their own words, especially when taken in context! I've never heard Senator Obama utter anything that has offended me so my opinion of him has not changed. On the contrary, my heart goes out to him and his family. Altering something as fundimental as a relationship associated with one's faith or values is one thing. Doing it in public during a presidential campaign is quite another.
I'm starting to think that this is big deal only so that the MSM can present it's favored candidates, Hillary and McCain; people they can do bidness wid. After watching the Moyers interview and the following links of Wright at the Press Club, I feel that even more strongly. Rev. Wright at the National Press Club (1 of 3) http://youtube.com/watch?v=q2H1dMbkYa4 Rev. Wright at the National Press Club (2 of 3) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gXnZKUG_ic&feature=related Rev. Wright at the National Press Club (3 of 3) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aM8VU47pKU&feature=related I never did recommend a book for the President to read because the top three were already recommended. If I may? The Best Democracy Money Can Buy (ISBN 0-452-28391-4, Penguin Plume USA) is a 2002 book written by investigative journalist Greg Palast http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Best_Democracy_Money_Can_Buy
Has anyone else noticed the use of the word "prophetic" in most every posting that praises Wright? Guess everyone at Wright's church received the memo with the talking points, huh? No conspiracy? Yeah, right.
I think the softball interview that Bill Moyers conducted only lack them "kissing". this was typical of the problems woith the media that we now have. Not one tough question was asked. how do you explain not questioning Rev. wright about his comments about the US gov injecting the HIV virus into the black community Or his 9-11 comments. despicable, Bill. will never contribute to PBS again. I a ashamed that my public tax dollars and personal contributions go to such wasted use as Bill Moyers! Bill Moyers should be removed from the PBS "airwawaves" today. A total waste of time letting this man rant for his own personal 15 minutes offame. wright has set back the race problem in America like no person ever i history. Having been raiseda proponent of equality and idolized person such asMLK and my personal favorite Dick Gregory, whom I felt privelaged and honered to meet, shake hands a nd talk with, this man lives in the past and is disgusting to America in 2008! MLK must be turningover in his grave! How could the question of his multi million dollar home not be asked? Shame on you Bill Moyers, Sshame on PBS for...
I take back my apology to Rev. Wright for the attacks he's had to endure. He deserves them. Had he ended with your interview he would have looked much better. After his performance yesterday, I think he is a disgusting man and deserves whatever criticizm he gets. With a Pastor like Wright, who needs enemies?! I will continue to support Obama and don't think he should be held accountable for Wright's outrageous beliefs. Shame on Wright for causing these problems for Obama.
Bill- you do not show the PBS spirit....This is a murder of PBS...dividing the country
Bravo Bill Moyers, What has infuriated me in all this is that the MSM failed in both of the most controversial clips shown to offer them more completely, which in both cases would have put what Rev. Wright said into context. I am beginning to believe that at the risk to the freedom of the press, media should be required to obtain and post the approval/disapproval of those not in public office being broadcast in the form in which it is being presented; or if not, play video clips in their entirety. The MSM knowingly created this issue for their commercial and/or political needs. Disgusting. A wonderful and prophetic interview! Thank you Bill Moyers for making me prouder than ever to be a supporter of PBS.
At the risk of not seeing the log in my own eye...I believe I heard Bill Moyer say he and Pastor Wright are members of the UCC denomination. No wonder both of them are confused. The UCC does not hold to the full authority of scripture. Once a protestant church leaves behind the foundation of scripture, it will be a ship blowing in the wind with broken mast. Jesus' parable was straight forward. You've got to build your house on the rock, the word of God. The UCC is built on trendy sociological thinking. I've listened to Bill Moyers disparage 'orthodox' or 'fundamentalist' or 'evangelical' thinking for years. But I think you are looking at the flower, the fruit the fuzzy thinking without the careful guide of scripture.
Jack Martin said: "...but I think it does show organized campaigns are involved, more so on the racist side" You might be right (I think you are, to an extent) - however, I fear that the majority of racist or borderline racist posts are from racist, or merely culturally conservative individuals ;/.
"However, none of them are speaking the truth. Just liberal, racist jibberish. Poor mind-numbed robots." lol, yeah, that's right, it's a big conspiracy, there can't be THAT many sensible people on this board who totally understand what Wright is talking about... right?
Although names suspiciously similar to my own and to my associates have appeared on this page I have not spoken until now. I never expected the intense response Jeremiah Wright has drawn. I admit to wasting my time reading these many posts, many of which seem ingenuine. Some are repeated many times on various blog pages and others seem to be joking. The nature of a blog is that submissions are anonymous barring a criminal investigation or electronic policing on the part of webmasters. How can anyone say what the intent of a post is unless people reveal more personal information than might be prudent, excert by reading and evaluating the argumentative content. In comparing this "Wright controversy" page to that of "Books the President should read" I find a more respectful tone and a higher quality of argument on the books page, even considering the 9/11 exclusion issue. I don't entirely understand what this says about racism, since candidate Obama and Rev. Wright are nominally black, but I think it does show organized campaigns are involved, more so on the racist side. Content reveals that some racist submissions were composed by persons who had not watched Moyers Journal or...
Wow, the same interviewer who has issues with the questions posed during the last dem debate then shows his complete incompetence at asking even a single probing question to this highly racist individual. He then lets the interviewee re-direct the question and Bill fails to follow up in any significant way. Way to go, Bill!
After revisiting this board numerous times, it is obvious that it is being sandbagged with two, maybe three distinct groups of people. 1.)Members of Wright's church that are going to praise the racist no matter what he says or does or 2.)White people with a terrible guilt complex that think that they need to be harshly rebuked for something that happened 150 years ago or 3.)Members of Wright's church pretending to be part of "white America" that whole-heartedly agrees with Moyers and Wright. Hmmm, probably some out of all three sub-sets. However, none of them are speaking the truth. Just liberal, racist jibberish. Poor mind-numbed robots.
This interview and Rev. Wright's truth-speaking are a breath of fresh air in this campaign of distortions and misleading sound bites. As a white southerner, I am grateful for the courage of Rev. Wright to speak out in the prophetic tradition about the wrongs all around us. And I am always grateful for Bill Moyer's quiet thoughtful and balanced interviews. Thank you!
It is obvious from this interview and from Wright's comments in context that he is a prophetic voice in America right now... one that the rich, middle class whites who vote Republican (and I am a white woman myself), and many others do not want to hear because it doesn't line up with their fascist views of what corporate America is. I love Jesus Christ first and this country second. Thank God there are still ministers who speak truth when there are so many who do not and who simply have pulpit warmers who feel good about themselves each week. Jesus didn't go around making Pharisees and others feel good, and neither did the Old Testament prophets.
I taped the interview and watched it a second time hoping that I could make some sense of Wright's remarks. Although Moyers lobbed softballs and Wright responded with platitudes while knocking down a few straw men, it became obvious that Wright is a man who is so completely full of himself that he thinks he is Christ. His remarks from the pulpit are just a black version of the Falwell/Robinson/Hagee rants. Hopefully, Wright will quickly pass from the scene and America can get on with the long, hard process of racial reconciliation without his preening exploitation of legitimate black grievances.
"Should pastors be making political statements?" My response: Assuming that pastors are Christians and believe the Bible to be the word of God I think the question shold be "What does the Bible say about Christian leaders making political statements?" I think there's lots of evidence of leaders who made political statements especially the prophets. Christianity is supposed to shape the values of Christians and applicable to everyday life so I don't see how pastors can not make political statements. A lot of times it's had to slice between what's political and social issues.
This interview was simply fantastic, uplifting and a fresh of breath air. This is really what journalism should be about - with professional journalists facilitating a discussion or interaction between the public and people in the news on the questions that matter so that the public can get a full picture and make their own judgments. I have lived in Rwanda and South Africa where the mainstream media distorted truths and spread misinformation, turning the simple differences between races into the fuel for fear, hate and a complete disregard for humanity and the fundamental right to life. The result - genocide and decades of the murderous, dehumanizing apartheid system all perpetuated and sustained by ordinary people like you and I. It is impossible for me not to see the similarity in the actions and role of the media in the US today and in the responses of bloggers here and on other sites. This country, like all others, has a past and present replete with mistakes and the sign of its maturity isn't going to be found in denial or a refusal to discuss these but in the commitment shown by ordinary people to set any fears and prejudice aside...
Posted by: Amy Miller | April 29, 2008 03:28 AM "Appalled, I'm supposed to be studying right now so this is the last post from me tonight, but: I'm excited because I think I might actually understand your point, although I don't necessarily agree with it." RESPONSE: Amy, I respect your opinion and really appreciate the friendly discourse. And, I wish you success with your studies. A heartful, God bless you, too.
Appalled, I'm supposed to be studying right now so this is the last post from me tonight, but: I'm excited because I think I might actually understand your point, although I don't necessarily agree with it. When I heard Rev. Wright's comments, I automatically placed them in the context of my past experiences with African American churches. They fit there,and he didn't say anything I hadn't heard before. LOL- if I heard the same words in my own church, I would walk right out. Anyway, in a society where it often seems like everyone's shouting and no one's listening, I'm glad we can have a civil and productive exchange. May God bless you...
Posted by: dksu | April 29, 2008 02:48 AM "For example, he said "Bill Clinton is ridin' dirty" and "Hillary aint never been called a n..r." This is not appropriate words from the pulpit." How is this not appropriate? It's not the clean, removed 'fantasy-land' Christianity, as Wright said. RESPONSE: DKSU, I appreciate your comments. I am basing my views from what I have learned in my Christian faith. It was written in the Christian Scriptures that Apostle Paul said "there must be no filthiness and silly talk..." (Ephesians 5:4), and "...your speech always be with grace.." (Colossian 4:6). As I try to be more like Jesus Christ in my daily life, I don't believe I am pursuing fantasy.
Thank you Mr. Moyers for imparting insight and clarity in your interview with the Reverand Jeremiah Wright. In lieu of the recent controversy surrounding the Reverand--instigated in large part by the media’s repeated broadcast of craftily edited and seemingly incriminating sound bites--your questions were fair, broad-sighted and respectful of giving his voice equal time to be heard. Above all, you offered the American viewer an opportunity to formulate their own opinion based upon information not manipulated by political ulterior motives or media bias. Your bio on the man himself and footage of the sermons helped put into context the messages conveyed by Reverand Wright and gave me a clearer perspective on the essence of his point of view. By the interview’s end, I was reminded of the biblical passage found in Proverbs chapter 4 verse 7 that reads “Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore, get wisdom; and with all thy getting, get understanding.” Again, thanks for your journalistic integrity in handling this subject matter with sensitivity, but most importantly for generating greater understanding.
I think a lot of people are missing the point that Rev. Wright was actually quoting Edward Peck, former U.S. Ambassador to Iraq and deputy director of President Reagan’s terrorism task force, who was speaking on FOX News. He mentioned this before and after the sound byte which was conveniently left out by the satans who doctored it. So the real shame is on all of you who keep perpetuating this lie! Most of the comments here are sad and pathetic. Anyone telling a Jewish person to get over it is anti-semitic, yet it's no problem to say that to an African-American?
... Not to mention that it's downright hilarious!
"For example, he said "Bill Clinton is ridin' dirty" and "Hillary aint never been called a n..r." This is not appropriate words from the pulpit." How is this not appropriate? It's not the clean, removed 'fantasy-land' Christianity, as Wright said. It's dirty, gritty, serious, like the real world. Wright said himself that his point is to connect the actual world and church life, not to separate the two. He talks about peoples' lives in the real world, probably using language that you wouldn't approve of. But that's how people speak. And that's what his people connect with, not metaphysical and purely theological preaching. But I suppose you could disagree...
Posted by: Amy Miller | April 29, 2008 02:21 AM "Pastors have been making political statements for a long time now, particularly in the past 40 years or so. G.W. Bush was in large part elected because of political use of the pulpit." RESPONSE: Thanks for you thoughtful response. It does not make a difference to me about the political ideology of the preacher, when it comes to my discomfort with preachers getting political in the pulpit. As I have posted previously, Reverend Wright has said some things in the pulpit that would not lead a person to accept God's free gift of salvation through Jesus Christ. For example, he said "Bill Clinton is ridin' dirty" and "Hillary aint never been called a n..r." These are not appropriate words from the pulpit.
Posted by: Amy Miller | April 29, 2008 02:21 AM "Pastors have been making political statements for a long time now, particularly in the past 40 years or so. G.W. Bush was in large part elected because of political use of the pulpit." RESPONSE: Thanks for you thoughtful response. It does not make a difference to me about the political ideology of the preacher, when it comes to my discomfort with preachers getting political in the pulpit. As I have posted previously, Reverend Wright has said some things in the pulpit that would not lead a person to accept God's free gift of salvation through Jesus Christ. For example, he said "Bill Clinton is ridin' dirty" and "Hillary aint never been called a n..r." This is not appropriate words from the pulpit.
"Perhaps a question we should all consider is how we feel about pastors making political statements. It's a tough question considering the degree of overlap between government and morality." I don't see what's wrong with pastors making political statements. I mean, there's no dividing line between politics and 'life'. The idea that there is, and that only politicians (and others in the field of 'politics' as such - the fact that I'm separating those 'in the field of politics' and those who aren't is itself troubling...) can be political is seriously cancerous. It's clear that Wright sees politics as a grassroots affair, and thinks that it's his duty to help people organize at this level. He's helping people realize that there's no gap between life and politics, between oneself and the structure of society. And he should be commended for this, and for challenging the 'low intensity democracy' status quo.
Posted by: MossaB | April 29, 2008 02:09 AM "The truth to what the man meant by what he said is in the very words of the man himself. The case whether Dr. Wright misspoke or not should be closed. We have seen more of the actual sermon and heard clear explanation." RESPONSE: Reverend Wright is speaking out about how he has been depicted in the media, so this situation continues to roll on. He also adds to the fray. Barack Obama has not told the truth about what views from Reverend Wright he has internalized from their 20 year relationship. It is not unreasonable to conclude that Reverend Wright has some controversial (and unbelievable) viewpoints.
Guess said: "At the University of Chicago Divinity School, Jeremiah Wright earned another master's in the history of religions with a focus on Islam." Great, this can only be a good thing. We need more people who understand the history different religions and cultures. Especially ones that have been influential not only in Wright's own community, but in the world!
Appalled, Pastors have been making political statements for a long time now, particularly in the past 40 years or so. G.W. Bush was in large part elected because of political use of the pulpit. Not all pastors do it, and I actually like the fact that my priest does not. On the other hand, many pastors feel the need to address moral outrages going on in society. Perhaps a question we should all consider is how we feel about pastors making political statements. It's a tough question considering the degree of overlap between government and morality.
"Thanks for your response. As I mentioned, I am appalled because of Reverend Wright's political use of the pulpit." This is precisely his strength. He's so popular because he helps to address the needs of everyday people, and to educate them as to the necessity for real structural reform. Personally, I disagree with his 'he's a politician, I'm a pastor' line - Wright is obviously intensely political, this is exactly what makes his sermons so worthwhile (I'm not a religious person and even I can appreciate them).
I don't think any Pastor should use the Pulpit for Politics. If that were the case in all Churches we would all walk out very depressed. Since Politics these days are very depressing. I think we are all capable of making up our won minds when it comes to voting. We all need to do our homework and pay attention to the Candidates NOT there Pastors. Do most of you remeber the old saying when your out and about and your enjoying yourselves stay away from Politics and Religion otherwise the night can turn into a disaster. There is a time and place for everything. Church is NOT one of those places. I actually think Wright believes what he says. That is why I think Obama has distance himself from him. My personal opinion and I think I'm allowed that under Free speech I am getting sick and tired of getting blames for something I had nothing to do with that happpend years ago. I am Irish and I remember signs that said Irish need not apply. So with that said let's move on and I will not apolgies for something I had nothing to do with. It's getting tiresome...
Never heard anything?? In his 1993 memoir "Dreams from My Father," Obama recounts in vivid detail his first meeting with Wright in 1985. The pastor warned the community activist that getting involved with Trinity might turn off other black clergy because of the church's radical reputation. Later he would base his 2004 keynote speech to the Democratic National Convention on a Wright sermon called "Audacity to Hope," --also the inspiration for Obama's second memoir, "The Audacity of Hope." Though Wright and Obama do not often talk one-on-one often, the senator does check with his pastor before making any bold political moves. Last fall, Obama approached Wright to broach the possibility of running for president. Wright cautioned Obama not to let politics change him, but he also encouraged Obama. At the University of Chicago Divinity School, Jeremiah Wright earned another master's in the history of religions with a focus on Islam. earned another master's in the history of religions with a focus on Islam. Jerry Wright loves islam. No!!! Say it aint so. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/custom/religion/chi-070121-relig_wright,1,271630.story?page=1&ctrack=1&cset=true&coll=chi-religion-topheadlines
The truth to what the man meant by what he said is in the very words of the man himself. The case whether Dr. Wright misspoke or not should be closed. We have seen more of the actual sermon and heard clear explanation. Respectfully, those who still hold any negative and judgmental view on this man -and the relationship with Mr. Obama, clearly have a deeply inherent hate within. These individuals should seek to understand the history of this nation -but most importantly, their very own history. The conversation on this issue is over! Let's move on to more important issues that threaten our way of life -that of blacks, whites and every human beings in this world.
Donna Moyer, Thanks for your response. As I mentioned, I am appalled because of Reverend Wright's political use of the pulpit. You did not address this. I appreciate that you have tried to speak for Barack Obama with your response. But Barack Obama has not specifically addressed any of the items in the list. My point is that people don't really know, but are guessing and trying to speak for him. "6 or 7 out of 9 ain't bad. It's too bad that Obama's views are likely in no way similar to Wright's."
Appalled wrote: "Most the people who have posted on this blog appear to agree with Reverend Wright. Below are tidbits from Reverend Wright. A lot posters like them. 1. Barack Obama says things because he is a politician. 2. US govt. is a terrorist govt, equivalent to those we are fighting in the Middle East 3. US govt. created AIDS virus to kill African-Americans. 4. US govt. brings drugs into the black community to imprison blacks. 5. US of KKK is a valid description of our country 6. US military was not justified in using nuclear weapons to force Japan to surrender in World War II. 7. Today, he made fun of JFK's Bostonian accent when he mimmicked JFK's "ask not what your country can do for you" famous words. 8. Hillary aint never been called a "n..." 9. Bill Clinton is "ridin' dirty" 1. Of course, this is correct. 2. The U.S. is/has certainly engaged in and has facilitated international acts of mass terror. 3. This is false. 4. COINTELPRO 5. There's quite a bit of racism in the U.S., though today more often than not, it is cloaked in humanitarian garb. 6. Completely agree. The U.S. was not...
Never heard anything?? In his 1993 memoir "Dreams from My Father," Obama recounts in vivid detail his first meeting with Wright in 1985. The pastor warned the community activist that getting involved with Trinity might turn off other black clergy because of the church's radical reputation. Later he would base his 2004 keynote speech to the Democratic National Convention on a Wright sermon called "Audacity to Hope," --also the inspiration for Obama's second memoir, "The Audacity of Hope." Though Wright and Obama do not often talk one-on-one often, the senator does check with his pastor before making any bold political moves. Last fall, Obama approached Wright to broach the possibility of running for president. Wright cautioned Obama not to let politics change him, but he also encouraged Obama. At the University of Chicago Divinity School, Jeremiah Wright earned another master's in the history of religions with a focus on Islam. earned another master's in the history of religions with a focus on Islam. Jerry Wright loves islam. No!!! Say it aint so. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/custom/religion/chi-070121-relig_wright,1,271630.story?page=1&ctrack=1&cset=true&coll=chi-religion-topheadlines
Donna Moyer, I appreciate your response to my post. An excerpt of your post is below, and my response will follow. Dona Moyer | April 29, 2008 01:48 AM OK Appalled, I would like to know what is so appalling about the statements Barak Obama made, ie the ones you quoted. Do you agree with everything your minister says? The most important thing a Christian pastor can do is lead people to Jesus Christ. I am appalled that Reverend Wright, and too many preachers, use the pulpit to espouse political views. Reverend Wright has used his pulpit to get into the political arena. His primary job is to lead people to Jesus Christ. He needs to stay out of the politcal fray. Some of the things he has said are paraphrased below. They will not lead people to Jesus Christ. Below are some of the statements from Reverend Wright, from the pulpit. Help me understand how they would move someone to accept God's free gift of salvation through Jesus Christ. 1. Barack Obama says [untruthful] things because he is a politician. 2. US govt. is a terrorist govt, equivalent to those we are fighting in the Middle East 3. US...
OK Appalled, I would like to know what is so appalling about the statements Barak Obama made, ie the ones you quoted. Do you agree with everything your minister says? Always? If you have small children, do you even hear everything your minister says? I am Catholic now but I grew up in a Baptist church. I sure didn't agree with everything my minister said. Otherwise I'd still be a Baptist. I still respect that faith though. As my priest says, if they aren't against us, they are for us. Every man should owe loyalty to the person who led him to Christ. Yet all of you are sitting, waiting for Barak Obama to denounce the man who led him to Christ. I'm a white conservative Republican who intends to vote for Barak Obama. I am voting for him because he has the integrity that I believe Hilary Clinton lost years ago. I think McCain has that integrity also but he is too much a part of the Washington machine for me to vote for him. I want the fresh face as long as he keeps it fresh and doesn't fall into the dirty tricks the media expects of him.
Barack Obama says he knew of controversial remarks by Reverend Wright. His response in a an interview question about this is pretty weak. I think it is not unreasonable to conclude that he has internalized some of Wright's views. Internet link to interview transcipt: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352785,00.html Transcript: Barack Obama on 'FOX News Sunday', Monday, April 28, 2008 WALLACE: By the way, in your speech on race, you said that while you hadn't heard these remarks that have been public, that you had heard controversial remarks from the pulpit. OBAMA: Right. WALLACE: But you've never said what those were. OBAMA: Well, you know, I didn't have any particular examples. WALLACE: I mean, can you tell us anything you heard him say that was... OBAMA: Well, you know, I think that he has oftentimes talked about some of the problems in the black community in very controversial ways. I mean, I think — or in sharp ways, in ways that are provocative. You know, he will talk about the failure of fathers to look after their children in ways that sometimes people might be taken aback by. He can use street vernacular in his sermons in ways that people wouldn't expect to hear...
I am saddest about the fact that it seems that half the people who have written on here are only listening to what the commentators have said about Rev. Wright and not about what Rev. Wright, himself said. Some have said 'don't bring slavery into it'. sorry, slavery is part of the black man heritage. I'm not black. I don't have that heritage. Sometimes I think some black men use that as an excuse. I don't believe that is Rev. Wright's position. Neither is it Barak Obama's. However, I can understand Rev. Wright's talks. Why can't other white Americans? Is it because they are too used to the 'good old boys (and woman's, in regards to Hilary) politics? This 'good old boy' system is what I think Obama wants to change. Do you really believe the Republicans have started all this hoop-la about Rev. Wright??? Look at Bill and Hill's track record. Anyone who has ever crossed them has been drug through the mud. Rev. Wright is just the one who THEY chose to use to drag down Obama. I believe the Clintons are part, and a big part of the problem with Washington. I think McCain is part of...
why does the media hold the feet to the fire when ministers and pastors are somewhere in the political picture, but on the other hand some discusting floozie from hollyweird can "endorse" a politian and nobody blinks an eye? (maybe nobody cares what the hollyweird floozie says?) why doesn't the media start scraping through the george cloony types movie gibberish "sound-bites" every time THEY "endorse" some politcal person? why doesn't the media scrape through the resume of the governor of "kally- forn- eeee-aaaaah" and some of his rediculous "sound bites" and crrrrrrreeeepy face stuff? eeeeek! he made his fortunes on icky movies....then marched right into office. i'm not going to vote for any of the three unfortunate choices that are scraping their way up to the presidency and i have really come to distrust major media. media wastes so much time with second hand stuff, and they AVOID first hand stump speaches etc. media pays a handful of people to sit around a table and blab on with "hersay",and their own interpretation, not the original speech! i think obama is a "wolf in sheeps clothing", hillary is a liar, who kept her head in the sand when her bill was...
I find it interesting that the comments here have moved from mostly feedback from people who watched the interview Friday night to a large number of simple-minded trolls. The time lag suggests to me that most of the trolls are not people who watched the interview and reacted to it, rather people who were told something and reacted to what they were told.
Newt, Hannity, Oreilly and others... At least give credit when it is due. You only knew of Obama granting 75k to a terror fund as director of the Woods Fund because you read it here first. At least mention the blogger "Truth" speak about youor new found facts. Thank You all and keep up the good work. Also steal my other posts where Osama admitted a year ago that he and wright talk politics everyday.
"What I value most about Pastor Wright is not his day-to-day political advice," Obama said. "He's much more of a sounding board for me to make sure that I am speaking as truthfully about what I believe as possible and that I'm not losing myself in some of the hype and hoopla and stress that's involved in national politics." http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/custom/religion/chi-070121-relig_wright,1,271630.story?page=1&coll=chi-religion-topheadlines&ctrack=1&cset=true Didn't wright just say they never discuss politics? Didn't wright just say that he will be gunning for obama because they disagree politically? Why then do they seem so connected a year ago? Jerry Wright LIES! And this is all a game. Osama will repudiate wrong in the next few days and all of the liberal biased media will say... Look.. Osmama repudiated him! BS.. It's all a game!!! This is ALL A GAME!!!! “If Barack gets past the primary, he might have to publicly distance himself from me,” Mr. Wright said with a shrug. “I said it to Barack personally, and he said yeah, that might have to happen.” http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/30/us/politics/30obama.html?_r=1&pagewanted=3&oref=slogin
Jeff S. Not only do we all have the "right to berate" our country, we have the PRIVILEGE and more importantly, the DUTY to question and berate our leaders when we question their leadership. No, wear of the uniform does not give one the right to "berate", being lucky enough to be a citizen of this great nation does though. (By the way, I proudly wore the uniform for 20 years!)
On the Sunday after the terrorist attacks of 9/11, Mr. Wright said the attacks were a consequence of violent American policies. Four years later he wrote that the attacks had proved that “people of color had not gone away, faded into the woodwork or just ‘disappeared’ as the Great White West went on its merry way of ignoring Black concerns.” Mr. Wright, who has long prided himself on criticizing the establishment, said he knew that he may not play well in Mr. Obama’s audition for the ultimate establishment job. “If Barack gets past the primary, he might have to publicly distance himself from me,” Mr. Wright said with a shrug. “I said it to Barack personally, and he said yeah, that might have to happen.” http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/30/us/politics/30obama.html?_r=1&pagewanted=3&oref=slogin
Moyers is a disgrace to journalism. Wright is a disgrace to the clergy. PBS is a disgrace to fair and balanced broadcasting. The congress is a disgrace for giving all of these entities our hard earned tax dollars to present this tripe to us!
Moyers is a disgrace to journalism. Wright is a disgrace to the clergy. PBS is a disgrace to fair and balanced broadcasting. The congress is a disgrace for giving all of these entities our hard earned tax dollars to present this tripe to us!
This conversation only solidifies what has been known by most thinking people in this country. This man censured America for her racist past. I dare any person, regardless of race, creed or color deny any of the charges Pastor Wright uttered in his denunciation of America. Let your minds not be controlled by the media as we are in very dangerous times. They know that if we the public hears something over and over again, we will come to believe it. George Bush used this tactic to get re-elected. I have a problem understanding how many in our country can PRAISE our President and Vice President (George Bush and Richard "Dick" Cheney) for the selling of the big lie "WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION" yet, we condemn and vilify a good man such as Reverend Wright for telling what we all know is the truth. Yes, every word uttered in Pastor Wrights sermon concerning his condemnation of America for her history of inhumanity to man is sadly and shamefully true. For the record, I doubt most people who have openly condemned Dr Wright for his flammable statements have actually read or heard them in their entirety. We have been fed snippets...
Jeff S---Couldn't agree with you more. I don't think any of these Candidates are capable of running our Country. Sad truly sad.
That wasn't an interview, it was an infomercial for Wright. Moyers served up softball after softball to Wright. Never pressing him on any of the crazy views he had. Wright contradicted his own views several times and not a peep from Moyers. This was not good journalism, or TV.
It’s simple, if the issue of slavery bothers you, move on. Be the bigger man and move on. Just ignore it. You don’t have to pay anything, so your good. As a matter of fact, use this post as an official certificate that exonerates you from any blame. I ___________ have officially been exonerated from any blame of owning slaves. The issue is for my government to settle while I keep my nose out of that which does not concern me.
I think what it is really scary about this interview is that people actually agree with some of the Statements made by Wright. I did watch the whole tape and I didn't feel any different then I did when I only saw small bits. I'm tired of the Reverend and I think Obama is also tired of him. He has distant himself from him. Now what does that tell you?
Bill, You made Larry King look like a Cy Young Award winner. What a joke...
Dawn, Your points are well made. I am not afraid of any Black man doing any job. More power to them in any endevor they try in life and the same for any man or woman. I just feel Mr. Obama is not the right man for this time, nor is John McCain or Mrs. Clinton. We are in a tough spot and these three do not cut it. They all have too much baggage in their carpet bag!
Bill, you threw the Reverand a softball and then another one and on and on it went. Why no tough questions for the Man of God. I am 48 years old and have been raised in Lutheran and Methodist Churches all my life and I have never heard a Pastor take the name of the Lord My God in vein. Has the Man of God, Reverand Wright not read the 10 Commandments? Maybe he feels they do not apply to him. They apply to "all" of us Reverand. Shame on you. JUst because you serve this nation in the uniform of our military(thank you for your service)does that give you the right to berate the USA? Not where I come from. Montana, Idaho and Washington State. Oh, they are too white to understand you Reverand. I do not think so. This is where we are in America today? Your speechs are not OK. Shameful, distasteful, disrespectful and yes, unpatriotic. You as a man of the cloth are supposed to bring people together, not divide them. Open mouth insert feet! The Lord is watching you Reverand. Better think about that.
Please tell your friends in mainstream America, particularly those who are Conservatives - or those who may be White, male, and over 50 - that their paranoia is getting the best of them, and the media needs to quit pandering toward it. Tell them that at the crux of this issue is that THEY are the ones who are AFRAID. They are AFRAID of Black men in positions of leadersihip. Malcolm X was not and Louis Farrakhan is not interested in killing you or doing you any physical harm - period. Reverend Jeremiah Wright is NOT a threat to you! Jesse Jackson and Al Shaprton to not support legislation - nor do they lead movements - that result in the disenfranchisement of White people. Barack Obama is not running for President for only the Black community. He is not just in it "for the Blacks." You will not lose your current socioeconomic or political status just because the President is Black. It will not cost you one red cent or a morsel of food out of your mouth. You WILL, however, have to COMPETE, in a way that you never have before, because automatic entitlement will be OVER for ALL...
After this lovefest that was advertised as a interview, I'm wondering how Moyers can call himself a journalist. It was appalling to watch such a travesty of journalism. PBS should be ashamed of itself. As a member of PBS for over 35 years, I will not be renewing my membership !
Scary thought: In Germany in the 1930's and 40's there was a racist leader that spewed racial hatred that could be compressed into 10 and 20 second snippets. People also blindly followed him and thought he was "telling it like it is". Fast forward 60 years and we have another racist (a "preacher") spewing vile rhetoric(that can also be compressed into 10 and 20 second snippets) against his country and his countrymen and people blindly back his play. These sheeple are the ones "stuck on stupid". We are in some deep poo, people.
It was quite apparent that many of the posts are from those that are still "Stuck on Stupid." How in the world can anyone think that this man is a racist, teaches hate or anything else negative for that matter? This is clearly a man of God and like God says if you mess with his children, you will reap the consequence. This man was appointed as was Senator Barrack Obama to fulfill a divine purpose. Read your bible because it is apparent that many still do not understand, yet comprehend what the Bible truly says. And yet many say that they are Christians. For Pastor Wright: Isaiah 54:17 - no weapon that is fashioned against you shall prosper, and you shall confute every tongue that rises against you in judgment. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD and their vindication from me, says the LORD."
Well. Today is days after the great interview with Bill and the Reverend. Since then, the meek mild man of God who spoke with Bill has taken off his mask and the firebrand angry American-hating man has evolved. Bill should be embarrassed for being taken in by the charlatan. Since then there have been many more moments of "sound bites" but also words from the man himself. MLK would roll over in his grave when Obama compared the Rev. to him. Shame.
PBS, thank you for being a place (almost the only place) where I can get some truth and in-depth insight. You all are thinkers unlike the mainstream media who is interested in sensationalism and entertainment. I am starving for real journalism out there, but I know that I can get fed here. Bill Moyer's Journal focusing on Rev. Wright was real. God Bless.
You really want to know what is sad? The fact that those of you who know nothing of Dr. Wright other than the 10 seconds of tape played 50 times per day by Sean Hannity are so willing to vilify and destroy him. And some of you call yourselves Christians. Sean Hannity is a coward. He wants to jump over this sentence taken WAY out of context and wants to use it to attack a man who didn't even say it (Barack Obama). There is no way any person of intelligence would do this. A thinking man would listen to the entire context, as Mr. Moyers aired, and from that make a determination as to whether they agree or disagree. I don't think honestly that most people who heard the entire passage believe the rhetoric as the media (Hannity) has hammered into the ethers. Perhaps it is the truth staring people in the face makes them so uncomfortable that blaming the victim, passing responsibility to something/someone else makes it easy, and certainly feels better. Wake up ladies and gentlemen. See what is really going on outside of your neighborhood. Life does not end at your subdivision.
Bill you have done a great public service by informing us and in the bargain you may have rescued the dignity of a very honorable man. Something tells me that this time Republican tricks may not be that effective....eventhough the press was asleep. Hard to figure Bill and Hillary's excuse for cruxifying the pastor?
What a disgrace! Now I read that "Reverend" Wright is going to live in a $1,000,000 house in a gated community and is being endowed with a $10,000,000 trust fund;all courtesy of his church. Seems to me that if Mr. Wright is so concerned about the downtrodden people of his race that he should give at least 90% of the money to help with HIV education classes, birth control classes, etc. That will never happen as he is a racist hippocrit that is no better than Paula White, Kenneth Copeland and the other WHITE preachers that live high on the hog at the expense of others. Shame on them all; but particularly shame on Wright as he accepts all the good that America offers and then runs America and a majority of her people down with his hateful rhetoric. It's sad that many, many people are ignorant enough to buy into his garbage and support him. Sad day for America.
I have been very busy the last couple of days and have not read any of the postings. I did listen to Rev. Wrights speech via NCAA last night. I watched News programs tonight because I wanted to see if anyone could possibly find fault with the things he said. I was amazed that most of the media did. WHY??? As I said in an earlier post, I am white conservative Catholic, but I was raised in a Baptist family. I heard things like Rev. Wright said all the time. Nobody criticized our minister. My sister, who is married to a Baptist missionary has said the same things, and they are missionaries to the military. I wonder to myself if it is merely because Barak Obama is black or if he just dared to oppose Hilary Clinton. I sent Obama an email several months ago telling him that I thought he might be too naive to run against a machine like Hilary's. I didn't realize at the time that he would be having to fight the whole Rush Limbaugh machine too. Rush believes that if all independents vote for Hilary it will keep the Democratic party fighting dirty and will...
I am going further than not ever giving PBS another dime, I'm going to visit every germane chat room, blog, and put up my own web page. I don't have to exagerate, just quote J. Wright's supposed interview with your mealy mouthed, journalist(?)Bill Moyers. How can a man who puports to be a journalist, not question at least some of the racial rhetoric spewing forth from Mr.(?)Wright? Does he really believe that our "GodDamn America" developed HIV and spread it in the black communities? Does that account for the 70% unwed births in the black inner cities. Maybe the government developed a stuck on stupid gene, and infused it into the black community, that causes the unwed birth rate to be what it is today. Unprotected sex spreads AIDS, just as it causes their unwed birth rates to soar. The impetus for that, harkins to the "great society" that rewarded young black girls to have as many kids as possible, to increase their government check amounts. Bill Moyers is nothing short of a white Jessie Jackson, or black apologist, never taking responsibility for anything. There are more blacks per capita incarcerated, simply because they commit more crimes, per capita. PBS...
Moyers gives Wright a pass on selective history Expanded editions of Wright’s “sermons” only made him worse. Among only one example, Wright noted America’s dropping the A-bomb on Hiroshima “Without bating an eye.” But the land war was on schedule and expected to kill up to 2 million more Japanese and Americans over another 2-3 years. The last 6 months before Hiroshima cost more American lives than the previous 4 as Japan triumphed in Manchuria. Truman and staff considered a myriad of options. Warn Japan of the new weapon? Would they send even more American POWs to ground zero as Truman knew those already there would die? Give a demo to Japan? What if it was a dud?. There were only two. Would that embolden Japan already fighting to the death on every island? But such facts do not serve Wright’s agenda to assign blame on whites and thus maintain power (ala Shelby Steele), nor reduce his hatred of those whites who chained and enslaved him as he said the following weekend after Moyers – which of course never happened. As a “critical” reporter quite familiar with history, one wonders why Moyers gave Wright a pass? Unless he was following...
I've already posted my comment on this travesty of journalism. But a liberal friend of mine said to me today " Rev Wright can't be all bad,after all he was in the Marine Corp". And I said to him " so was Lee Harvey Oswald" !
Robert Stiefel: What mistake? It was Wright who invoked Malcolm X's remark "... Chickens coming home to roost." in the wake of September 11th. However correct Malcolm X's comment regarding the JFK assassination was some 40 years ago is not the issue. It is simply that Wright's use of that inciting phrase is so mis-directed, unsympathetic and corrupt morally in light of the fact that innocent people of all stripes cruelly died that day. My Brother is dead and cannot defend himself. I will not tolerate any affront to his suffering and death. I cannot make myself any clearer. Careful reading of my post reveals no error. Moreover, my expressed sentiment regarding Reverend Wright's attitude towards September 11th still stands. John
Thank you for offering your viewers an opportunity to hear Rev. Wright's sermon. I read the transcript of his sermon in the Chicago Defender but it helps to be able to see it as well. Pastors in many churches after 9/11 were urging their parishioners to resist the understandable urge for retaliation. Rev. Wright was not alone. Best regards,
first, i would like to thank you, bill moyers, for listening to your subject and not bringing a pre-planned agenda to the interview a la fox, cnn, et al...you get the picture. next, the arrogance of the comments i've seen is amazing, including those who believe they are being fair minded...things are all "cleared up" about Rev. Wright as if he needs your approval? you, america, who benefit from discrimination in education, employment, and finance today, this day, in addition to benefitting from the genocide of native americans, slavery, jim crow, poll taxes, dred scott, plessey v. ferguson, standardized tests, lynching, police acquittals in "liberal" NY in the amadou diallou, sean bell, eleanor bumpers (are you going to call her a drug dealer, too?) and other cases ad nausem; tell me when i should stop. how many blacks work as traders on wall street? how could david dinkins not get re-elected in supposedly "democratic NYC"? let me help you; because you vote your color, white, then deride blacks and other ethnic groups for doing the same. if rev. wright had not come along to give you an excuse for not voting for a black man (who has worked overtime to...
Not another cent for PBS, after this embarassing interview.
im always amazed at how diverse opinions can be between the left and right minded posters. its obvious that left leaners are presupposed to be sympathetic to Wright and Moyers. thus offering little critisism and porfuse praise. Though to be fair the right is very critical of Moyers interview. to me it was a forgone outcome. we have moyers who is a left wing like minded guilt ridden white man trying to forever pay pennance to the black for past wrongs. and of course Wright is completely justified in his unabashed hatered of the country, the same country and opertunities that have allowed him to accrue a huge amount of wealth and creature comforts, that im sure he despises every time he pulls his beemer into the garage at his beautiful multi million dollar home. but it is america. and hes a citisen ....i think. anyway he can pedel hate of the usa and whites, and promote anti white racism. i mean hes a black minister after all. we can all look the other way while he trashes us cant we? its only fair and as a plus it relieves us a small amout of our white guilt to allow...
Hello, I typically don’t write programs but in this case I think you are so wrong I can’t contain myself. What you are saing trying to gloss over what the traitor Jeramiah Wright has and is still saying is pathetic. I am by no means a right winger as a matter of fact I lean much more left but I am still an American and a Veteran and I am completely offended by what this idiot is spewing and what is just as offensive is the news media like you that is supporting him. Can’t you see he is now trying to “explain” what he said and whine about everything except the fact that HE SAID IT and is still saying it. I was not a Hillary supporter but I am now and I really thought highly of you but not now, now you have demonstrated that you are just a pathetic lackey and are defending a tyrant. Obama is a liar when he says he didn’t now about what Wrigt was saying, that or he is way too stupid to be president. Too bad for you, An ex fan
That interview friday night was a disgrace to every true journalist in the country. I thought Larry King was a softball artist, but he doesn't hold a candle to Moyers. It makes me sick to see my tax dollar going to trash like this interview on PBS.Hey Bill, another Peabody Award for this great piece of journalism? I think not.....
Being neither African American or a Caucasian, I feel compelled to give what I consider to be an unbiased opinion. Watching this farce of an interview just proves that there is no end to the guilt complex of liberal whites and the two faced attitudes of select African Americans who are willing to exploit this guilt while living a double standard in multi- million dollar houses in predominantly white neighborhoods, while spewing hateful rhetoric about America and its past. Shame on you PBS for allowing this sham of an interview, Mr. Moyers for your spineless approach and you Mr. Wright, for being a warmonger! Thank goodness Mr. Obama has had the sense to distance himself from you..
Thanks Moyers, you stunningly naive and myopic twit, for torpedoing Sen. Obama's campaign. Neat work. A question: How much are the Clintons paying you? Or are you back in cahoots with your old Texas buddy Rove?
Bill, way to ask the hard hitting question the majority of Americans want to know about. I would love for you to pitch softballs against my team
Okay, everyone on here that owned slaves or were slaves, raise your hands... Hmmm, no hands---Okay, everyone on here whose parents or grandparents owned slaves or were slaves please raise their hands....Hmmm, again no hands. Come on people get over it. Can't we just move along as Americans and quit all this "pity party" stuff. There have been plenty of races that have been treated badly years and years and years ago. You don't hear them perpetually whining. They've moved on. Time for others to do the same. As to Moyers and his milquetoast interview of Reverend Wrong; Don't get me started! Wimpy, pandering questions. Where were the hardball questions regarding HIV, U.S. as terrorist, etc. that would deal with the ignorant invective that Wright spews out on a daily basis. The man is as much of a racist as David Duke ever thought of being. He is the black equivalent of a Grand Dragon of the KKK. Nuff said!
How is this sermon leading people to Jesus Christ? In Reverend Wright's own words, "Hillary aint never been called a n...r" in the video link below. Someone explain this as a proper use of the pulpit. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAYe7MT5BxM
I LOVE YOU REVEREND JEREMIAH WRIGHT AND BILL MOYERS!!!! PBS YOU ARE THE BEST!!!!!!!
How is this sermon leading people to Jesus Christ? In Reverend Wright's own words, "Hillary aint never been called a n...r" in the video link below. Someone explain this as a proper use of the pulpit. http://www.youtube.com/watc h?v=hAYe7MT5BxM
Kevin, I agree with you. However, the posts that follow will thank Mr. Moyers for allowing Reverend Wright to give his side of things on a few points. Reverend Wright, Mr. Moyer, or all of the thankful posters can cannot the dots with all of the hurtful and divisive things Reverend Wright has said, and continues to say today. The non-Wright lovers are in the minority on this blog, for sure.
Bill, Another great interview. You gave Rev. Wright a chance to set the record straight, and he delivered the goods. He is far from the fanatic that the MSM is making him out to be. After seeing this interview it is obvious how poor a job the MSM has done in covering the Rev. Wright.No wonder Obama stuck by Rev. Wright. He sees him for the honorable man of God he is. This video should be must viewing for the entire media which can't seem to comprehend the teachings of Rev. Wright.
Is there still racism in our country, yes, but by preaching about it and making up lies that USA gave black people aids, is CRAZY!! and only creates more racism! I've had a black teacher who was fired for calling a classmate a "Nazi" and when they got rid of her, she sued the school because she felt she was let go because she was black and WON! That is CRAZY!! Racism is horrible, but so is reverse racism, we need to stop all the blame game and grow as a country!
Thank you for having Rev. Wright on the air. I really didn't know anything about him other than the media frenzy junk food we have all been given. He is obviously a very intelligent man and sincerely concerned about the people in his community. It is so sad that questioning America's foreign policy, for example, makes people hate him. From all I can see he is speaking the truth. Wake up America, your country can do wrong, and does wrong all the time, from its very beginning through today. The only way you can help is to point out the problems and find solutions.
God Bless America! And that goes for those of all ethnicities but what no one understands, except for blacks, is that America is racist today. Based on pieces of information, Pastor Wright had already been destroyed. He had already received death threats. His church members were harrassed. Do you think that there will be a pubic apology from FOX News or the many many other publications that lamblasted him? Remember that Bill Moyers was the only one who gave Pastor Wright a chance to clear his name. This is what African Americans deal with every day. We are attacked and crucified by the very people that we work for and work with in this country and because they live in a myth, they won't even try to understand. It has only been about 40 years since "integration" occured (as we can see from these posts, it really hasn't occured). I'm 32 and my generation was one of the first to go to integrated schools from kindergarten through college. We dealt with the racist teachers that were left over from Jim Crowe days. We dealt with the text books that only taught us that we were slaves and the white teachers...
Reverend Wright has used his pulpit to get into the political arena. His primary job is to lead people to Jesus Christ. He needs to stay out of the politcal fray. Some of the things he has said are paraphrased below. They will not lead people to Jesus Christ. 1. Barack Obama says [untruthful] things because he is a politician. 2. US govt. is a terrorist govt, equivalent to those we are fighting in the Middle East 3. US govt. created AIDS virus to kill African-Americans. 4. US govt. brings drugs into the black community to imprison blacks. 5. US of KKK is a valid description of our country 6. US military was not justified in using nuclear weapons to force Japan to surrender in World War II. 7. Today, he made fun of JFK's Bostonian accent when he mimmicked JFK's "ask not what your country can do for you" famous words. 8. Hillary aint never been called a "n..." 9. Bill Clinton is "ridin' dirty"
You people see one interview and think Bill moyers show was great, go to his archive and see how he turns the table when the Preacher is white and consevitive. he blasted Pastor John Hagge ,and tried to hurt John MCcain's campaign,now compare the two, Bill Moyer is a left leaning biased two faced commie. ps.why does he keep deleting my message. don't belive me just keep track and see for yourself.
Dear America Senator Obama's words regarding a portion of America as being “bitter" is accurate. The Southern Poverty Law Center reports that hate groups have grown by forty eight percent (48%) between the years 2000 to 2007. This is a sign of increased bitterness in our nation. There are twenty six (26) recognized hate groups in New York State alone. Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols are the tip of this bitterness that continues to grow as people lose faith in their government. The vigilante actions by many on our borders with Mexico with guns in hand against workers trying to find work in America. These actions are being taken by citizens who have lost faith in their government's ability to secure the border. This is the anti-immigrant attitude that Senator Obama describes. The various local municipal ordinances being passed against undocumented workers are occurring mostly in small American communities not in the big cities. The borders were secure until President William Jefferson Clinton signed NAFTA and subsequently PNTR with China. These trade bills destroyed good union jobs with health benefits and pensions here in America. The North American Free Trade Agreement destroyed Mexican jobs and forced this mass migration north...
Peace & Blessings to ALL !!! In regards to the comments of Rev., Dr. J. Wright, I preface with this scripture from Proverb 13:16, “Every prudent man deals with knowledge: but a fool lays open his folly.” (Read the entire chapter for better CONTEXTUAL meaning !!! ) Also, there's a scripture that states, "For those that have eyes, let them see...for those that have ears, let them hear... " It's very unfortunate that many who have or will comment after "hearing" Dr. Wright's comments, "heard," but did NOT "Listen," and with that of an "Open Mind." A "mind" that is in DENIAL of historical FACTS about this nation’s history of VIOLENCE from it's beginning. PYSCH 101 teaches one that "Extreme Denial" of Reality is a form of mental illness, whether that is mild (neurosis) to severe (psychosis). The American Psyche has been "sickened" from its GENOCIDE of Native peoples in the Americas, to its unprecedented form of chattel slavery of tens of millions of Africans... which continues today in various forms of Institutionalized Racism, Sexism, and Classism (which includes the economic disenfranchisement of the poor, of ALL ethnicities)!!! ... for those who would say either, "I had nothing to do...
Dear America Senator Obama's words regarding a portion of America as being “bitter" is accurate. The Southern Poverty Law Center reports that hate groups have grown by forty eight percent (48%) between the years 2000 to 2007. This is a sign of increased bitterness in our nation. There are twenty six (26) recognized hate groups in New York State alone. Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols are the tip of this bitterness that continues to grow as people lose faith in their government. The vigilante actions by many on our borders with Mexico with guns in hand against workers trying to find work in America. These actions are being taken by citizens who have lost faith in their government's ability to secure the border. This is the anti-immigrant attitude that Senator Obama describes. The various local municipal ordinances being passed against undocumented workers are occurring mostly in small American communities not in the big cities. The borders were secure until President William Jefferson Clinton signed NAFTA and subsequently PNTR with China. These trade bills destroyed good union jobs with health benefits and pensions here in America. The North American Free Trade Agreement destroyed Mexican jobs and forced this mass migration north...
Great show as always. I'm always pleased at how you manage to get great guests and great interviews from them. It feels as though we truly are seeing INTO them and beyond the image associated with them. Speaking of that, could you coax Bill O'Reilly into an interview? I'd like to see how he is with a gracious host who wants more than "Talking Points." I hope if you extend an invitation that he would be gracious as well and *accept* the invitation.
Appalled, Your response is exactly the problem facing our country that I noted below. For every one of your examples, they apppear to be biased, sarcastic "anti-facts" in your eyes. What right do you have to pass judgment on others until you have walked in their shoes? If you can fulfill the following criteria, I will shut up. 1) Been called a white, black, asian, and every other categorical racist epithet known to man kind because one does not "fit" the ethnic labels of the US Govt (or any other govt for that matter) 2) Been the subject of Jim Crow discrimination in school, life, worship, and work as well as other types of discrimination, even today 3) Had relatives fight and die for the US as late as Vietnam in SEGREGATED units with DEROGATORY nicknames (the "Yellow Brigade", "Black-Eyed Peas", etc.) 4) Been on the receiving end of a nuclear weapon (I lost family fighting for the US in both the Pacific and Atlantic theatres in segregated units so I have a vested voice here) 5) Seen the effects first hand of the hegemonic poicies of the US. Go to Vietnam, Laos, Iraq, the Middle East, etc. Dig through...
I enjoyed the interview and was delighted to hear Reverend Wright speak at length. I have a question though, when will you host Bill O' Reilly so that he gets a chance to show us what he's like when he's not on his show. I hope that he can be as honest, yet nuanced as Reverend Wright. I also hope that should you extend an invitation that Mr. O'Reilly would do you the kindness of *accepting.* Great show as always.
Most the people who have posted on this blog appear to agree with Reverend Wright. Below are tidbits from Reverend Wright. A lot posters like them. 1. Barack Obama says things because he is a politician. 2. US govt. is a terrorist govt, equivalent to those we are fighting in the Middle East 3. US govt. created AIDS virus to kill African-Americans. 4. US govt. brings drugs into the black community to imprison blacks. 5. US of KKK is a valid description of our country 6. US military was not justified in using nuclear weapons to force Japan to surrender in World War II. 7. Today, he made fun of JFK's Bostonian accent when he mimmicked JFK's "ask not what your country can do for you" famous words. 8. Hillary aint never been called a "n..." 9. Bill Clinton is "ridin' dirty"
Great interview with Rev Wright. It was thorough and fair. I found Rev Wright to be honest, insightful, and gracious - all things missing from the media blitz against him. People like this are a national asset and public servants should not have to apologize for cultivating relationships with them. There are few places where good-will dissent has a home these days. Rev Wright was vindicated - if he needed it - and the Journal is to be credited with doing a good deed for all of us.
Thank you, Bill Moyers & Rev. Wright, for all of your comments last week. I was relieved to hear all that Rev. Wright had to say -- he was erudite & articulate & cleared up all of the controversy from those sound bites we kept hearing last week, & unfortunately, are still hearing days later. I can see why he is a revered pastor, & why people with the class & goodness of a Barack Obama would attend his church. From some of the comments already posted, I fear that not everybody actually listened to what he had to say or the "controversy" would have ended by the end of the interview. (For the record, I'm a white woman, well over 21, from the Chicago area, & Catholic. :-)
I really enjoyed the interview but I was hoping to hear the reverend talk about the AIDS origin allegation. Where can people learn about Wright's views on the origin of AIDS in Wright's own words?
I find it interesting that "John" thinks that Malcom X said something cruel and unacceptable about 911. Malcolm X was assassinated (in America by an American) forty years ago. This slip calls into question all that "John" offers as commentary. "John"s rhetoric betrays an intolerance of the sort he decries. I find this very sad. I suspect we all know whom "John" meant - and that asks the question: when we demonize one another, what good can come of it?
It is unfortunate that we, the human family, have allowed ourselves to be reduced to such nothingness. With the serious issues facing America, we are reduced to 30 second soundbites, especially from the candidates, to try to determine who to vote for for President. We are getting caught up in the nonsense of name calling instead of trying to determine the depth of the candidates ideas on fiscal policy, education, healthcare etc., We get to hear the same old doodoo over and over again. Think about what could be done with the money that has been raised by the candidates to even run for office. I believe in February, over 80 million dollars was raised between Clinton and Obama for their campaigns. THAT'S JUST FOR ONE MONTH! Just think about how that money could be used in your neighborhood or town or city or state. Schools, teachers raises, repairing the infrastructure (roads) providing services for those in need. I pray that one day we will see that we are all one and put the madness to rest. May god bless everyone, all over the world!
I was disappointed in the interview with Rev. Wright. Frankly when I saw his indendiary remarks in context I found them more disturbing, not less. What disturbed me most was the fawning tone you took with the Rev. He is entitled to his outlandish views, naturally, but I have asked my 12-year-old more challenging questions about his day at school. I could never vote for anyone who chose as his moral guide a man who has these feelings and who presumably must have exercised some influence over his protege all these years. How can we trust Obama's choice of Secretary of State or Treasury secretary of Supreme Court Justice when his choice of moral guide is so way out in the hinterland of reason?
I have read comments throughout this site and I find that with the interview a lot of things was cleared up, with modern technology it is so easy to make someone out to be a bad person, but to outright set out to destroy a person character, demean as a man and a person and what he stands for, the bible says yeah without sin cast the first stone, some of the comments are very harsh and if you would sit down and think about some of the things that have been about you or to you how did that make you feel, if someone would paint you as a very nasty, unhappy hateful person how would you feel, we sit and we judge and we condemn easily without all the facts and then when we are presented with the facts we still think we are right, people are entitled to how they feel, it is amazing to me that because of his comments he will be condemned as someone says until he dies but the lies that Hillary clearly made n national tv is easily forgiven, we live in a racist country and that is something we might as...
Thanks, Mr. Moyers, for your interview with Rev. Wright. One of the comments on this site says that he is getting favorable reviews because the commentators must be black. Well, I am white, and I was very glad to have had a chance to hear him over the course of the hour, rather than in 10 second snippets taken out of context. I think he explained himself very well. If people would go back and read Martin Luther King's speech in April 1967, he said that "the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today is the United States." He was referring to our involvement in the Vietnam War which he came to see as an unjustified, evil and cruel invasion of another country. Millions of Vietnamese died and about 55,000 Americans - even more if you count those whose lives fell apart from the effects of fighting in Vietnam. Dr. King's words were as strong as Rev. Wright's, and he was condemned for them, his patriotism questioned. The mass media today does not remind us of his forceful stand against U.S. policies that undermined peace in the world. He is incorrectly seen as a dreamer of a better world...
Dear Bill Moyers: Thanks once again for providing the public with an opportunity to get a more holistic view of a good man that has been made a virtual enemy of the state by way of the propaganda that we call the MSM. jaylynn writes: "But judging from these blogs, you and the Reverend sure fooled alot of people" If anyone has been fooled, I would suggest that it is you who would rather cling the obviously false impression created by the propaganda you are so willing to accept with unthinking glee. jaylynn writes:"If a White candidate went to a church for even one month where the minister preached the kind of hatred and bigotry..." What hatred and bigotry? Against who? It seems that the only bigots and racists are those people who had access to the full range of information but decided to cherry-pick it for information that helps them to score some kind of narrow-minded racist victory. Jeremiah Wright is not running for office of the president and those comments are several years old so you are a little late to the self-righteous-indignation pity party. If you did not understand it the first time, go back and watch...
The nail and the dirt together. Who's the nail?
Dear Mr. Moyers, Thank you for airing your conversation with Revered Jeremiah Wright April 25, 2008. In many ways I am the typical viewer of your show, eastern educated, liberal-minded Manhattanite and I watch your show whenever I am home at the time of its airing. Illuminating as it was, in so many ways, reverend Wright is not the issue for he clearly has every right to hold onto his beliefs and to speak to them. The real question for me is whether I would tolerate the polemic and vitriol coming on down from my pulpit. That answer is a defiant “No!” and I would expect nothing less of those for whom I would vote. That said, in other ways I am quite unique a viewer of your show; my younger Brother perished in the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001. Having sat in a room of grief-stricken African-Americans similarly affected only the most cold-hearted of sadists would invoke as succor Malcolm X’s infamous phrase regarding the events of September 11th. And my personal response to Reverend Wright’s invocation of Malcolm X is for me to roundly tell him to go f*ck himself.
The Interview with Reverend Wright was very informative. Having only heard the sound bites, some are indeed taken out of context and hearing some of them in the context of the sermon clarifies the issue. There are some that were not discussed during the interview clearly where there was not enough time. In the final portion of the interview Reverend Wright discussed some variance with the text of the bible (I believe approval of concubines) and the need for interpretation. It would seem reasonable to apply some of the same logic to a recitation of "an eye for an eye',a vengeful Lord's words in an Old Testament framework compared to the clearly more gentle God in the New Testament. What is sadly but abundantly clear is that racism still exists in this country today, as does sexism and other unfortunate trends. The harsher evaluation by Reverend Wright seems to deny any progress and paints all white men and women with the same broad brush whether it fits or not. I believe this type of approach is ineffective and is more likely to help those who wish to maintain the status guo. I don't believe, in the final judgment, that God...
The Interview with Reverend Wright was very informative. Having only heard the sound bites, some are indeed taken out of context and hearing some of them in the context of the sermon clarifies the issue. There are some that were not discussed during the interview clearly where there was not enough time. In the final portion of the interview Reverend Wright discussed some variance with the text of the bible (I believe approval of concubines) and the need for interpretation. It would seem reasonable to apply some of the same logic to a recitation of "an eye for an eye',a vengeful Lord's words in an Old Testament framework compared to the clearly more gentle God in the New Testament. What is sadly but abundantly clear is that racism still exists in this country today, as does sexism and other unfortunate trends. The harsher evaluation by Reverend Wright seems to deny any progress and paints all white men and women with the same broad brush whether it fits or not. I believe this type of approach is ineffective and is more likely to help those who wish to maintain the status guo. I don't believe, in the final judgment, that God...
Dear Mr. Moyers, Even after your OUTSTANDING interview with Reverend Wright, the mainstream media is still not reporting the truth. Here is what I wrote to them and have sent out a message to others to demand the truth! Please keep up the honest and truthful journalism you do. Unfair Journalism - As a person that watches your station everyday, I am extremely disappointed that on Thursday evening, your broadcast showed clips of the interview with Reverend Wright on the Bill Moyers show CREATING a news story to REIGNITE the controversy surrounding this story. I watched the interview on PBS and what I saw was a very different picture of Reverend Wright AS WELL as the whole sermon and not just sound bites played by your station and many others. But as I watched your station and others over the weekend and now today, Monday, your station is still playing to the drama and to the controversy. Where are the sound bites of what Reverend Wright said after the GD America comments? Why isn't your station playing other parts of the interview? I think this does a real disservice to the American people by not showing what's really going on...
Every now and again an individual is thrusted before us in the grandeur of what is the national spotlight, much like a sacrificial virgin ceremony from past earlier cultures. Often, the incident goes unchallenged by the public at large, or by the community that is the media. But, every now and again the media pauses for a brief moment to take a breath and in that moment of breath, the emergence of fairness creeps into media where the truth is exposed, and the sacrificial virgin is heard. Such was the case with this weeks episode of Bill Moyers' The Journal where he interviews Mr. Wright. After listening to the sermons in their entirety, it became obvious that mainstream corporate media has villified a man who was using religious scripture as the platform for understanding the acts of evil men, and coping with the pain America felt after 9/11. America has had historical moments when an individual has made us gaze into a mirror and see past the reflection to a place that lies between our conscience and our souls, and challenges us to reevaluate what makes up our moral values. Often, moments like these will open up national scares that...
The interview with Dr. Wright, including significant portions of the two sermons whose soundbites caused such a furor, point out the toxic potential of artful editing. I am not predisposed to favor the utterances arising from any organized religion, but I found both the bits of video used to raise the race issue in the presidential campaign to be pertinent and true in the larger context of the two sermons. I was also impressed that what Dr. Wright had to say during the interview flowed with flawless logic from the combination of his faith and his sociological observations. Like Barak Obama himself, Dr. Wright thinks in complete and coherent paragraphs, in both the pulpit and in explaining his worldview to the unconverted. Many thanks to Bill Moyers and his staff for this.
I find Rev.Wright to be a very pround man with the true word of God in his mouth.The truth is hard to digest and because he do not bow down to race or the establishment he is an outcast...You can say the same for Jesus..Man can not sever man and God...Render unto Ceasar what is Caesar and render unto God what is God.. Anglo Saxons have an that they must always be right and they can be if it is Line upon Line precept upon precept of the Holy Bible. Rev.Wright told you the truth and you want to find every way to discredit him. I feel so sorry for the ignorance of America, you teach the english langauge and dont articulate it yourself.. What is it that the man said you dont understand.. I admire you Rev.Wright and thank you for not letting those ignorant people make you compromise the word of God and Black Culture... One thing we must understand as a people God come before Barrack Obama,Hillary Clinton, and the other republican candidate.. THATS A FACT....
I find Rev.Wright to be a very pround man with the true word of God in his mouth.The truth is hard to digest and because he do not bow down to race or the establishment he is an outcast...You can say the same for Jesus..Man can not sever man and God...Render unto Ceasar what is Caesar and render unto God what is God.. Anglo Saxons have an that they must always be right and they can be if it is Line upon Line precept upon precept of the Holy Bible. Rev.Wright told you the truth and you want to find every way to discredit him. I feel so sorry for the ignorance of America, you teach the english langauge and dont articulate it yourself.. What is it that the man said you dont understand.. I admire you Rev.Wright and thank you for not letting those ignorant people make you compromise the word of God and Black Culture... One thing we must understand as a people God come before Barrack Obama,Hillary Clinton, and the other republican candidate.. THATS A FACT....
This interview coupled with the verdict in the Sean Bell case here in NYC are poignant. They echo other in that America does not provide justice for all. The words of Rev Wright about "violence begetting violence" are as true today as they were when he spoke them. America is blindly in love with itself and not willing to see its flaws. Americans of color, while loving the country, can see what others don't want to see that it is not good enough to be the greatest nation in the world by default. We can do better than this, but we must be willing to see our faults and also willing to work to fix them.
I have listened to Mr. Moyers' conversation with Rev. Wright and read the transcript. Moyers was overly solicitous. The discussion left me with only one conclusion: Rev. Wright is nothing more than a bitter and angry black man. Wright used his pulpit to vent his personal anger over the special brand of racism historically visited by U.S. society on its black citizens. His bitterness and anger is personal, not founded on theology. Much of his commentary during the discussion was extraneous, and his attempt to conflate "d-e-m-n" and "d-a-m-n" was laughable. There is no question that the context of his choice of "God damn America" was the conventional use of taking the Lord's name in vain. Wright's use of "chickens coming home to roost" when referencing the attacks of 9/11 is no different from Malcom X's use of the same phrase in referencing the assassination of John F. Kennedy. It is an echo of thoughts expressed by another bitter and angry black person, Alice Walker (The Color Purple). In an early 2003 interview on NPR's The Diane Rehm Show, Walker remarked that when she saw the planes go into the twin towers, she "felt for the hijackers." When asked to...
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Thank you Bill Moyers for the insightful interview with Rev Jeremiah Wright. His comments all make so much sense. Yes if we are American we must hold ourselves accountable for the violence done in our name starting with Native Americans up to today in Iraq and Abu Ghraib. I was glad to get a more whole picture of Wright's theology and refer folks to read James Cone's Theology of the Oppressed. We should be angry about the violence of the isms but we need to have justice and love together to work for change. We don't need cozy Christianity-- We need Christianity with sharp edges that calls us to reform and change and grow. Thank you Rev Wright and thank you Bill Moyers & PBS.
As an ex-Southerner whose ancestors came to America in the 19th century and who is neither black nor white, who pulled oneself up by the bootstraps and made it through highly racist settings in the South, North, and ex-US to gain multiple graduate degrees at Ivy League institutions and abroad (I grew up in a gun-fire racked ghetto and earned scholarships, worked full time, and took out tons of loans - all paid back in full), and to this day faces overt and explicit racism in the executive world, I find it rather interesting and extremely sad to hear these comments from all sides and know that 200+ years later, our founding fathers dream is still just that: a dream. Whether I or anyone else agree with Obama and Wright's poilitical and personal views are irrelevant for us as a SOCIETY. What is important for us as a society was Obama's speech on race. To condemn Obama just because Wright's words were INTENTIONALLY taken out of context is just as ignorant as taking Wright's words in themselves. As Barack noted, he cannot dissociate himself from the "bad" of any individual any more than the "good". I totally relate to his...
My good sister Beck, Where was the righteous indignation of the church when Africans and African Americans were being held as slaves? Where was that righteous indignation when those that built many of the "historic churches" were relegated to the balconies while their masters worshipped below? Where was the righteous indignation over the fact that people of color were treated as cattle? That same indignation should have been apparent when whites chose to close schools rather than to integrate them. So white congregations and pastors have historically been complicit in segregationist religion. The need for a black church arose out of a belief that loves black folks too. Many whites seem to want us to forget about all of that and offer forgiveness without repentance. That behavior is why the white church has more work to do before looking at the speck in our eyes.
As I write this I am listening to Rev. Wright at the National Press Club (c-span, replay). I hope that Wright will remain a significant public figure and a spokesperson for justice and reconciliation in this country. In the long run he may prove to be a much more significant and constructive figure than Sen. Barack Obama. His line of thinking is a line of survival for the United States, which if we ignore it, we do at our imminent peril. Prophesy remains possible, as Wright demonstrates.
What an inspiring interview! I found the Reverend to be utterly charming and extremely intelligent. We must remember that all history is biased, including Biblical history. The media continues to perpetuate this bias every day. We all need to stand up against those who intentionally twist words for their own purposes. Anybody can choose to disagree, but they have to take the entirety of the statement in its intended context, or they are cowards. It's that simple.
Excellent point Marilyn... After watching the news clips of Wright from this past Sunday, April 27th, he seems more fired up now than he was before. His comments are more ignorant, separatist, and racist than ever. I can honestly say the BIGGEST mistake America has ever made, actually it was made before America was the America we know today, was importing African slaves from Africa sold by their own African leaders. America has fought the bloodiest war in its history because of it and America has been paying for this ever since. Funny, I don't see Africans running back to Africa yet we endure with people like Wright.
I'd like to respond to Marilyn Beck's question. I do not think Rev. Wright's efforts can be characterized as separatist anymore than Oprah or the Lifetime network can called separatist. Different people have different experiences. When black youths on the south side of Chicago see far more media representation of young black men as thugs and hustlers than they do as successful professionals, that is an experience that black professionals and black mentors are best posed to address. Of course these youths could also benefit from the encouragement of whites, Latinos, asians, and whoever else wants to give it. But isn't there something particularly meaningful about getting encouragement from someone who looks like you...who can identify with you...who shares identity with you? An argument is commonly made that it is as wrong for 'Ebony' magazine to exist as it would be for 'Ivory' magazine to exist. But that argument ignores the fact the Time, Newsweek, the New Yorker, and most mainstream publications cover the lives of mostly white people. Yes, people of color are included, but non-blacks are also included in the coverage of 'Ebony' magazine. You seem to be making that general argument: if a white pastor would be...
If any other pastor in America made such segregationist comments from the pulpit, he or she would be vilified by the Christian community. Why is there a need for a separatist BLACK church, why does it have to be about being BLACK and not about Christian love? Shouldn't the message be Christian love for ALL races, all colors, all peoples? My God, my Christ didn't segregate people into categories. My Savior loves all. Rev Wright seems to want to emphasize the black church, the black revolution, the black history and struggles. I understand the need to do so, to understand the past, to honor one's culture and history, but isn't it time within the church to move forward with unity and love for all?
I was so glad to hear Rev. Wright reference Harriet Washington's book MEDICAL APARTHEID during the question and answer period this morning (in response to a query regarding his controversial comment regarding AIDS). Good! Now maybe folks will go out and read Washington's book and understand the context of Wright's statement?
American whites (I would suspect white people worldwide) are in such denial when it comes to racism that it is profoundly sad. In reading some of these posts one can see just how far we in America have come yet one can also see how far we have to go in realizing the effects that racism has had, and continues to have on this country. I guess I would feel bad too and not want other races to constantly bring up the FACT that my race (whites) has had their hand in some of the most HORRENDOUS ACTS committed against every ethnic group on the face of the earth. That American whites stole the very land we live on from the Indians, bought and sold human beings (African-Americans), murdered 6 million Jews, and thought nothing of the impact these acts have had on the generations of these races. Interred Japanese Americans, knew the Holocaust was happening and did nothing about it, and the LATEST, invades Iraq and make that country a MESS, because white men knows whats best for EVERYBODY. I won't even begin to address the evil doings of the (white) British, Germany etc... America continues to operate racist...
Thank God for Jeremiah Wright. He's the gift that keeps on giving. If he continues to flap his lips like this, America may dodge the Obama bullet after all.
Having watched Bill Moyers' interview with Rev Jeremiah Wright on PBS and CNN's broadcasts of both the Reverend's comments before the NAACP convention and the National Press Club, I feel that the great disservice done to both the American public and to Rev. Wright has finally been somewhat mitigated Prior to these broadcasts, all the major news outlets did was mindlessly repeat the sensational, out-of-context video clips that the lunatic right wing wanted drummed into the electorate's consciousness. Now, fortunately, any reasonable person can clearly see that this man is not an incendiary, America-hating mau-mau, but, in fact, a brilliant, highly educated, charming, funny, soulful, articulate, sensitive, impassioned advocate of civil rights and brotherly love. Thanks to your program for attempting to set the record straight. Henry Lebo North Vancouver, BC Canada
These days, what passes for news and public discourse is actually entertainment and should be dismissed as such. The lazy sound bites, the attack journalism is not to be trusted regardless of whether or not it matches your political bent, right or left. (HuffPo is as bad as FoxNews) Our lack of respect for the political process is shameful. What I hope others will notice about this interview is Moyers' willingness to listen. Many will say, and perhaps rightfully, that he should have asked tougher questions. Leave that for the next interviewer. I would consider it progress to see left, center and right leaning journalists take the same care with their subject, a calm rational approach to exploring the issues rather than the overheated, frothing at the mouth we see day in and day out and which does all of us a disservice. We should be directing other news media to Moyers' example, encourage media to by all means promote their values (I don't believe media can be unbiased) but to have standards in doing so. It is beginning to happen but I think many Americans are realizing that much as we are dissatisfied with our leaders we are also...
These days, what passes for news and public discourse is actually entertainment and should be dismissed as such. The lazy sound bites, the attack journalism is not to be trusted regardless of whether or not it matches your political bent, right or left. (HuffPo is as bad as FoxNews) Our lack of respect for the political process is shameful. What I hope others will notice about this interview is Moyers' willingness to listen. Many will say, and perhaps rightfully, that he should have asked tougher questions. Leave that for the next interviewer. I would consider it progress to see left, center and right leaning journalists take the same care with their subject, a calm rational approach to exploring the issues rather than the overheated, frothing at the mouth we see day in and day out and which does all of us a disservice. We should be directing other news media to Moyers' example, encourage media to by all means promote their values (I don't believe media can be unbiased) but to have standards in doing so. It is beginning to happen but I think many Americans are realizing that much as we are dissatisfied with our leaders we are also...
My husband and I loved Bill Moyers' interview with The Rev.Jeremiah Wright. In his speech to his congregation he talked about all the injustices that many nations have done around the world including our country with the Native Americans,Japanese Americans, and African Americans. The Rev. Jeremiah Wright is so right that I had to write! Thank you as always for your insightful and thought provoking programs!
My husband and I loved this program! The Rev. Wright is so right that I had to write! After listening to his interview with Bill Moyers,we love Obama even more! Thank you for airing such thoughtful and insightful information as always!
Rev. Wright and his cult represent the reason(s) I left the demoncrapic party. As a person of color, I have seen my people bought and paid for and turned into a monolithic voting block of welfare slaves. It's all whiteys fault. When the sun don't shine, whiteys fault. When jobs dry up, whiteys fault. Black men irresponsible for their children, whiteys fault. Inner city youth growing up in an unsupervised environment, whiteys fault. My great, great, great, great, grandfather was a freed slave and the first thing he did was move north with wife and kids in tow. He is the patriarch of our family to this day. We have Doctors, lawyers and college professors in our family these days, and it didn't happen by blaming whitey and expecting to be supported for life by whiteys government. Rev. Wright screams from the pulpit that we as a black community have a right to expect white tax payers to pay for the sins of their fore fathers. If that is so, then I suppose we in the black community should go after the rich Arabs that made fortunes by selling our ancestors. In fact we might even go to the Hague...
I just heard Rev. Wright's speech at the National Press Club on C-SPAN. It was very powerful, very uplifting, and very INCLUSIVE of ALL men and women. Bless you, Rev. Wright - fight the good fight!
Thanks Bill Moyer for a very interesting interview of a very misunderstood person. It's because of the Reverend Wright snippets that I've stopped watching cable news...the Scarboroughs, Chris Matthews, Hannitys & O'Reillys are not smart enough to do their own analysis. Instead, they speak to the miseducated and misinformed who are to lazy and prefer to be given the news rather than getting it themselves. I find it extremely important that people understand that the Word of God to the black community was used as a means to overcome a struggle to achieve equality. Frederick Douglass once said that I like the religion of Jesus Christ, but dislike the religion of America...because America used its religion to enslave, rape, and mutilate those of African ancestry. Reverent Jeremiah Wright is not a wacko for not agreeing with America's foreign policy...Ron Paul expresses the same sentiment, not as abrasive in his tone, but they are speaking to different audiences.
I may not agree with Rev. wright, but i believe he has a right to freedom of speech just as the news and politicians do. should he be different because he is African-American? I have conversed with Caucasians who say they are not racist, and they were not around when there was slavery in America, but they benefit from racism beause of their color. Some people seem to think that African Americans should forever stay un the background and be good little African Amerians and let others dictate to us. We can speak just like other nationalities. African Americans are not a race of people, becaur in a race everybody starts out at the same time. We did not start out at the tarting line that other races started out at. We were supposed to be an indentured people but when our anceters wer brought over here Europeans saw a people who could not peak english and they used that to their advantage and got rich off the back of what we know now as slaves. Ye I think Rev. Wright hould say whatrver he believes and has the right t speak just like all other Americans. I am glad...
Just as children learn what they live, so too do adults. Stop thinking "racism" and watch what happens ...
Anyone who thinks that Wright's comments regarding AIDS are paranoid and unfounded, needs to pick up a copy of Harriet Washington's MEDICAL APARTHEID:The Dark History of Medical Experimentation on Black Americans from Colonial Times to the Present. Here are some reviews of the book: Kirkus(* Starred review) Ethicist and journalist Washington details the abusive medical practices to which African-Americans have been subjected.She begins her shocking history in the colonial period, when owners would hire out or sell slaves to physicians for use as guinea pigs in medical experiments. Into the 19th century, black cadavers were routinely exploited for profit by whites who shipped them to medical schools for dissection and to museums and traveling shows for casual public display. The most notorious case here may be the Tuskegee Syphilis Study, in which about 600 syphilitic men were left untreated by the U.S. Public Health Service so it could study the progression of the disease, but Washington asserts that it was the forerunner to a host of similar medical abuses. Among her numerous examples is the radical brain surgery performed by a University of Mississippi neurosurgeon on African-American boys as young as six who were deemed aggressive or hyperactive, a procedure...
I find it fascinating that Rev Wright's comments have been on the news constantly, yet Rev Haggee (Senator McCain's supporter) has made horrific comments about Hurricane Katrina being a punishment from God and said the Catholic Church is "the Whore Of Babylon", yet it's barely make made a ripple in the news.
I find it fascinating that Rev Wright's comments have been on the news constantly, yet Rev Haggee's (Senator McCain's supporter) horrific comments about Katrina barely make make a ripple.
I find it fascinating that Rev Wright's comments have been on the news constantly, yet Rev Haggee's (Senator McCain's supporter) horrific comments about Katrina barely make make a ripple.
Lady, Reverend Wrights' comments on Aids are not unfounded your lack of knowledge as to this truth is sad, Look up this information about aids and its origins check Dr. Boyd Graves and the research he has provided that proves this allegation. Even after hearing Reverend Wright you still want to hold onto your bias. Same on you.
Lady, Reverend Wrights' comments on Aids are not unfounded your lack of knowledge as to this truth is sad, Look up this information about aids and its origins check Dr. Boyd Graves and the research he has provided that proves this allegation. Even after hearing Reverend Wright you still want to hold onto your bias. Same on you.
At best, Wright is a stranger to the truth. Just as it is troubling that conservatism has become a Satanic cult bent on practicing ritual human sacrifice and dismemberment in Iraq for the next 100 years, so too is it disturbing that a cult on the left thinks they can curse America and lie about it or that we are to supposed to admire them for the way they curse us. Well in that case, dm U too! And in the words of FUtus, the sitting VP, fu as well.
No matter what interpretation follows the statements, those statements were made from a pulpit with the full force of the clergy and all it stands for. It's one thing to state exaggerations in small groups, it's entirely another to state them to those who wish to believe and follow. It is violent language no matter what 'media' person or web site or utube repeats it. Why would a minister bluster and fume on "America"? THIS IS PURE POLITICS. I thought church was a house of God and a place for understanding and compassion. It's way over the top and no matter how you try to spin it, it remains as much as Rodney King's "Why can't we just get along?" YOU HAVE TO LIVE BY WHAT YOU SAY AND WHAT YOU MEAN. PERIOD.
Thank you for the interview, Mr. Moyers. As always, it takes a deeper look into the news to determine the real story. Although I always suspected that Rev. Wright was not a lunatic, this interview clears him of all charges.
@ Jack Howard: There is nothing for me to prove (re: "definite conclusion of a motive"). History has proven that the motive is racism - a firmly held belief that blacks are inferior, despite the fact that there is no BIOLOGICAL differences among the races. Do us a favor and pick up a book - preferably one written by someone who doesn't look like you, so you'll be able to derive a different perspective of things and not just confirm your existing ignorance.
Just finished listening to the interview via podcast. Thank you! Bravo! This program has motivated me to make another donation to PBS. I do hope the truth penetrates into other media and that Americans are finally beginning to realize that those selling divisive sensationalism make it harder for us to join together to find common ground and common sense solutions to the problems we face. I'm a white 58 yr old female in Colorado and join in the post below: I'm white and Wright is right.
Just finished listening to the interview via podcast. Thank you! Bravo! This program has motivated me to make another donation to PBS. I do hope the truth penetrates into other media and that Americans are finally beginning to realize that those selling divisive sensationalism make it harder for us to join together to find common ground and common sense solutions to the problems we face. I'm a white 58 yr old female in Colorado and join in the post below: I'm white and Wright is right.
REV. WRIGHT.. THANK GOD FOR YOU... "PRAISE GOD FOR WHOM ALL BLESSINGS FLOWS", PLEASE KEEP THIS COUNTRY IN YOUR PRAYERS!!!!!!
Wright Moves On Up: http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=291855469309054&kw=Wright Barack Obama Exposed: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dailypolitics/docs/ObamaExposed.pdf ...Because 90% of the Black community support Barack Abama just because he is Black, the remaining 10%, or thereof choose to support a candidate based upon merit, and not based upon his or her race! .....and there are many Black people, and/or others, who do not support Barack Obama!
Thank you so much for doing this interview. I found Rev. Wright to be both thoughtful and well-prepared to stand by his previous assertions. I detected hints of pro-life and anti-gay (what did he mean by "sodomy"?) bias, but beyond that he seemed remarkably inclusive in his attitudes and his judgments: in his "God @@#$ America" speech he speaks of America as "we", not "they." Any time hate speeches given by white preachers are reported in the press, the language is always exclusive. It seemed obvious to me that Rev. Wright feels very much a part of this country and has a vested interest in working for its future. The fact that one of his ex-parish members is now waging a strong bid for the presidency of this country (to me) says volumes more about the patriotism and values he holds than any two minute sound-bite or newspaper op-ed piece ever could.
Thank you so much for doing this interview. I found Rev. Wright to be both thoughtful and well-prepared to stand by his previous assertions. I detected hints of pro-life and anti-gay (what did he mean by "sodomy"?) bias, but beyond that he seemed remarkably inclusive in his attitudes and his judgments: in his "God @@#$ America" speech he speaks of America as "we", not "they." Any time hate speeches given by white preachers are reported in the press, the language is always exclusive. It seemed obvious to me that Rev. Wright feels very much a part of this country and has a vested interest in working for its future. The fact that one of his ex-parish members is now waging a strong bid for the presidency of this country (to me) says volumes more about the patriotism and values he holds than any two minute sound-bite or newspaper op-ed piece ever could.
http://africanamerica.org/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/79160213/m/2461000262/p/1 ....and far too many preachers control the electoral process in the Black community. It would be a good thing to exclude preachers entirely, to think for yourself, to support the candidate who speaks for you, who stands to truly represent you.....
Maybe this is God's plan for this whole situation. Whether Obama wins or not, America has been challenged to really heal our racial issues. I see real HOPE! A real deep conversation has begun. Praise God from whom all blessings flow. God has heard the cries of the people. We are OK, just like we are. I'm OK and you're OK. We can learn to love one another, while appreciating our differences. Different, not deficient... Rev Wright doesn't hate white people, he is explaining to a diverse audience why black children hate themselves before they are six years old. He is explaining that if we view each other both white and black as different, but not deficient we can understand and appreciate each other. I love you, but first, I had to learn to love myself. I hope this makes sense. God bless America. Do not be afraid, but you are watching a miracle unfold, a prayer being answered, by which all of us (all of America) will be blessed if we get through the pain. God bless America!
I totally agree Observer. How anyone can come out two days after the innocent killings of 9/11 and say those people deserved to die for any reason whatsoever; have to be over run by hate and total evilness. Likewise, any person who could embrace this person is quite questionable as well. Obama should be impeached from the senate and never be aloud to run for any kind of office. The fact that he will be the nominee for the democratic party speaks volumes about the party itself as well as the mindset of today's Americans. Innocent people died and the democratic nominee secretly believes those people deserved to die. Frightening.
1947 Jackie Robinson broke baseball's color barrier - Change! 1948 The Armed Services integrated - Change! From the Revolutionary War to the Wars in the Middle East, African Americans have fought and died for America. We owe it to the men & women who put their lives on the line for our freedoms to end this climate of Racism! I believe the problem is MSM and the lack of spiritual tolerance and compassion. For those few who harbor racial animosity toward, when it comes to Rev. Wrights interpretation of scripture and his weaving it into social commentary - "Confusing God and Government" is he Wrong? Whether you like the way he preaches, are the scriptures interpretations -Wrong? Yet first and foremost, there's a reason we don't mix Religion and Politics. Thank you PBS
Maybe this is God's plan for this whole situation. Whether Obama wins or not, America has been challenged to really heal our racial issues. I see real HOPE! A real deep conversation has begun. Praise God from whom all blessings flow. God has heard the cries of the people. We are OK, just like we are. I'm OK and you're OK. We can learn to love one another, while appreciating our differences. Different, not deficient... Rev Wright doesn't hate white people, he is explaining to a diverse audience why black children hate themselves before they are six years old. He is explaining that if we view each other both white and black as different, but not deficient we can understand and appreciate each other. I love you, but first, I had to learn to love myself. I hope this makes sense. God bless America. Do not be afraid, but you are watching a miracle unfold, a prayer being answered, by which all of us (all of America) will be blessed if we get through the pain. God bless America!
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Mr Moyer, my only regret is that you do not have a regularly news show. I have sat in total amazement over the last few weeks at how every one of the major news stations (FOX, MSNBC, CNN, ABC, NBC) exploited the "God-Damn America" soundbite for the sole purpose of destroying Senator OBama, as well as Rev Wright. For all of these "News" stations (I use that term lightly) to have decided to tell this same lie, and yet claim that they are handling the news in a fair and balanced manner is inexcusible. But because of your interview God caught them with their draws down on this one. The Media, Hillary and John McCain continue to make a point that Barack OBama has no experience, is not vetted, is not ready for the job of Commander in Chief. Why then is it necessary for them to use these kinds of rabid , vicious attacks. Especially since not one of the candidates has Executive Office experience, unless one wants to count Hillary's Bosnia sniper fire episode. And as sad as it may seem there are some people out there who are still probably counting...
Does anyone have the Fox News Wright interview?
Jeremiah Wright is downright evil. The man is just evil to the core. All he preaches is hate and black supremacy while faking his love for Jesus. Anyone who follows his words is either evil themselves or stupid. The constant people thanking moyers for ths infomercial are either J. Wright himself or a cult follower. Speaks volumes for Obama and his wife. islam is evil as well and look at Obama two dad's and where he went to school. Throw in the fact that Obama's Mama was an atheist and it keeps getting scarier by the minute.
To the black and white persons, and to all persons who have been victims of racists, I am very sorry.
Thank you Mr. Moyers for conducting your interview with Reverend Wright. It's nice to get beyond the sound bite. And thank you Reverend Wright for doing the interview.
All I can say is whenever Rev.Wright talks I have to turn down the TV. I watched part of the NAACP speech and I had to turn the volume down a lot because he can't seem to give a speech without screaming and the man before him really screamed. I think all the screaming is bad for his vocal cords and bad for his blood pressure. I was surprised to see how much the Rev.Wright has aged since 1987 ,I think its all the screaming ,its adding years to his face. I could never go to that church,I would need ear plugs and I would need to take a traqualizer to calm my nerves. All that screaming is unsettling. He thinks screaming is normal . I think he needs anger managment therapy. His attitude says "shut up and listen" .He is used to bullying his church followers. I don't buy it. I was raised to be polite and not yell. He makes fun of polite white people. His speech was very objective,it makes sense to him and I'm sure he would get angry and yell at anyone who disagrees with him. Maybe thats why Bill Moyers tip toed around him...
All I can say is whenever Rev.Wright talks I have to turn down the TV. I watched part of the NAACP speech and I had to turn the volume down a lot because he can't seem to give a speech without screaming and the man before him really screamed. I think all the screaming is bad for his vocal cords and bad for his blood pressure. I was surprised to see how much the Rev.Wright has aged since 1987 ,I think its all the screaming ,its adding years to his face.
All I can say is whenever Rev.Wright talks I have to turn down the TV. I watched part of the NAACP speech and I had to turn the volume down a lot because he can't seem to give a speech without screaming and the man before him really screamed. I think all the screaming is bad for his vocal cords and bad for his blood pressure. I was surprised to see how much the Rev.Wright has aged since 1987 ,I think its all the screaming ,its adding years to his face.
Please be informed that the Reverend Wright does not represent the Judea Christian views, Mr. Bill Moyer, you have only allowed him a pulpit to makeup his own context to hide his own personal agenda. "Let a Prophet judge a Prophet by the word of GOD". According to scripture, Romans chapter 13:1, says Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: The powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resistest the power, resistest the ordinance of God; and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. FOR RULERS ARE NOT A TERROR TO GOOD WORKS, BUT TO THE EVIL. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? Do that which is good and thou shall have praise of the same. FOR HE IS THE MINISTER OF GOD TO THEE FOR GOOD. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain; for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. 1 PETER 2:13,14,15 says, Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the LORD'S sake whether it be to the king as...
http://africanamerica.org/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/79160213/m/9131049962/p/1 There is no doubt that racism exists, and has contributed to the demise of Black People. More so than racism on the part of Caucasians, or others, in addition, the deceit, the disgraceful actions of far too many Black leaders, preachers, and/or the so-called university educated from within the Black community is the greater enemy, and contributes to: A. the destruction of the traditional Black family. B. the illegal, unlawful, un-American incarceration of the truly innocent Black men and women. C. trash the meaning or the essence of what it means to be a U.S. citizen, by their blatant disregard for the U.S. Constitutional and respective State Constitutional rights of law abiding citizens, within the Black community. D. place more value in the rights of the truly criminal, illegal immigrants, and/or the deceitful at the expense of the lawful rights of the law abiding, the lawful citizen, the legal immigrant, and/or the truly ethical. A,B,C and D make it very difficult and/or next to impossible for the truly law abiding, the ethical to escape the misguide wrath of their own Black leadership and/or the misguided, and many times deceitful, university educated Black middleclass. The qualm that I have...
Thank you for this interview, Mr. Moyers. Your Journal is an oasis in a desert. I learned so much from getting to hear Reverend Wright. I will encourage others to watch the program. I guess it is up to the rest of us to be "broadcasters" by sharing this feast of information. What a dignified exchange over such important issues. We were invited and allowed to listen, experience, and ponder the issues along with the host and guest. Unlike the diseased sound "bites" offered by so many of the corporate media news stations, meant to stir up our emotions and bypass our brains and hearts, this encounter like the 23rd psalm “leadeth me beside the still waters” and “restoreth my soul.’
Deb in Fla: This may be beside the point, but Jesus was actually highly educated. http://www.shamar.org/articles/Jesus_education.php I wonder why the opposite belief has been propagated?
Is it racism when black people hate white people? Is it a hate crime only when it's committed by a white person?
I watched the interview with great interest. It definitely demonstrated how badly the media can misrepresent someone - especially how the right wing pundits (mostly on the FOX channel) used a very dishonest political tactic against Barack Obama to great effect by repeatedly showing clips of Rev. Wright totally out of their context. Yes, Jeremiah Wright used a very poor choice set of words in that clip. But the content of that sermon, and of what Jeremiah Wright communicated with Bill Moyers, is very much in line with what many Christian teachers and preachers have communicated over many years. Some of you may be familiar with John MacArthur's book "Can God Bless America?" I haven't read it, but I skimmed it for about 15 minutes in a bookstore when it came out. The book came out in the wake of 9/11 when the phrase "God bless America" was coming back into popular usage. MacArthur asks Will God bless America? Can God Bless America? Should God Bless America? In short, MacArthur's answer is not unless America repents of her sins. Wright was making the same general point (though I think Wright has a greater emphasis on social sins and MacArthur emphasizes...
To tradamerican: Do you always begin a debate or discussion with someonw you might disagree with by insulting or name-calling? My original comments were not even directed to you, yet you reply by calling me a "troll"? That's mighty enlightened, eh? Going back to the premise of my original point, you cited the ratification of voting laws in 1870 as a way to tell me....? Are you somehow denying the fact that blacks could not vote until 40 years ago? Are you somehow denying the historical fact that blacks were not LEGALLY full citizens until 40 years ago? And are you still referring to Reverend Wright as "un-American" when he volunteered to serve as a Marine to defend America even though he was not allowed to even vote?
You shall know the truth and the truth and truth alone shall set you free. Ignorance, misinformation or mis-education will not save America. Let us face the truth and have an honest conversation about race and racial injustices in our society. I see Rev. Wright as a courageous and intelligent man. Not at all because I assume or expect him to be perfect nor because i agree with everything he says, but because he has served America, his community and God to the best of his ability. I understand why most white people want to deny or run away from the truth about racism and what America has done and continue to do to black people. It is a ugly, bloody and cruel record. So instead of facing it, accepting the truth about it or dealing with it,they would rather hide it and try to destroy anyone who tries to force them to face it. I hope America listens to what he is saying. God bless Rev. Wright and God bless America.
I watched the Wright speech at the NAACP dinner tonight. He says he's not running for the oval office, but he sure sounds like a politician. He's not running for Jesus either as Jesus was not an educated man , nor was he racist. Wright should stick to preaching the gospel and not educating us "Whites" on differences between the races and saying that a big change is coming.If you watch Wright's face during his rant you can see how self-serving he is. I hope he fades into the background.
Thank you "FOX NEWS" Rev. Wright is pure love, and without the hate of corp. media, such light might only shine in Chicago. Shine on Rev. Wright, Shine on Obama. I've not seen Bill shine so bright since his interview with Joseph Campbell. Shine On ;-)
Fight Fair: I'm sorry you had such bad experiences, but that was how many men in how many cities? And you suggest they represent all black men? I recommend therapy and a martial arts class.
I thank God for His Holy Spirit. You see American Citizens it is written; "Satan M.O. is to steal, kill, and destroy." The mainstream media is guilty of being the workers of Satan. They all gathered themselves together in order to destroy Rev Wright like the Pharasee and the Sadducees did against our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. However, God has exposed them all. Now when the media speak all I see is that their zippers are down and their dress is up over their heads. It is just funny. Now CNN, MSNBC,FOX, ABC,CBS, NBC media talking heads have no creditability just like America, Bush, and the Clintons. My question is "Was it worth it?" SAD! SAD! SAD!!!
To US CITIZEN: Your comments were articulated quite well and equally as well received. On your comment that we should agree to disagree, I concur. I respect your decision. I will cast my vote for Senator Obama and here's why. He has a long track record of being able to see the issue from both sides. (Not just Black and White). He also proven that he has the ability to reach across the isle for solutions to issues.I admire his fight for our veterans and how he pushes to get funding attached to legislation that he voted for which increased funding for armoured vehicles for our soldiers. I don't know how he is going to handle the 'association' attacks from the right. I know as a concerned citizen, I researched every attack and I found them to be superficial at best, (except Reverend Wright). I also do not agree with Senator Obama on every point concerning immigration. but I also know that he will have people who feel as you do, and people who feel as I do, as well as immigrants at his round table of discussions, trying to decide the best way to handle these issues. I also...
I just saw the speech Rev. Wright gave at the NAACP dinner tonight. It was powerful, and very different from the Bill Moyers interview last Friday. I expect Rev. Wright's speech at the National Press Club tomorrow will yet be different still. These three events together create a much more complete picture of who this magnificent person, Rev. Wright, really is. As to Bill Moyers Journal, Bravo Public Television! Bill Moyers’ interview with Rev. Jeremiah Wright was phenomenal. This is why Public Television is so essential to our democracy. Finally, we have a chance to see and hear from someone whom we find, thanks to Mr. Moyers, is among the finest examples of a true American patriot. The photo Mr. Moyers shows of Rev. Wright standing over President Johnson at his most vulnerable, lying unconscious on an operating table, was nothing short of outstanding and revealing of Rev. Wright’s trustworthiness and profound patriotism. I hope each of us will consider the atrocity FOX News engineered, which was quickly amplified by many other so called "news media", essentially creating a campaign of fear and rage--showing and reporting on the relentless looping of sound bites made highly incendiary, like napalm bombs of...
JUSTICE, if you want white women to quit holding their purse close when you walk by, DEAL WITH the black guys who steal! grab at them, kiss them in the hall at school,hiss as they walk by,etc. and attack! shoot with a big water gun from out the car window when you are walking in the pedestrian side in georgia.... etc. if YOU will deal with THOSE guys, THEN white women will stop clutching their purses when you walk by! i KNOW from terrible experiences with black guys! i am SO TIRED of hearing and reading about "racisim" when the problem is black guys acting like jerks! and thinking they can get by with it, because they are going to dish it out but not take it and blame their NASTY behavior on "racism". oh ya, i forgot the guy in the park in minnesota who grabbed me and announced "if you want one, you have to GRAB one." made me sick. i didn't notice he was there until i was GRABBED! since he grabbed me, the girl with him, got mad at me and slobbed snow cone or something on me! none of this nonsense was my idea!so JUSTICE....where...
Thank you for this informative hour of programming. I had only seen the snippets of Rev. Wright. Each of us are complex beings and I know I wouldn't want the worst 30 secs. of my life played over and over distorting who I am. I don't know if this interview will change any minds but if we are to progress in this nation we need to listen to others who have experiences that are not our own. Bill Moyers demonstrated excellence in journalism.
Thank you for providing an objective viewpoint on Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Your interview provided us with a more complete objective view of who the Rev. is, his work and accomplishments. I have only respect and admiration for the work of Rev. Wright. If only there were more like him to help our economically and spiritually poor communities in America. Thank you Bill Moyers for taking the risk of conducting such an interview! It is sad that even after such a thorough and objective piece, there are still ignorant people who will continue to capitalize on the hate and racism promoted by the unfair politically motivated sound bites of the Rev. Wright. These hate mongers are what is wrong with America today. Those hate mongers who are also spewing their hate in this blog should be ashamed of themselves! Don't they have anything better to do?
I watched the Bill Moyer interview w/ Rev Wright on Fri and the CNN coverage of Rev Wright's NAACP speech and I was pleasantly surprised to see that this pastor is well spoken, compassionate, intelligent and steadfast in his effort to do GOD's work. At first I was a bit bewildered about why he was explaining the differences between the races but by the end of his speech I got it. As a caucasian person, I will admit that I have been guilty of criticizing things that were done by others w/o giving consideration to other people's culture. Because of this speech, I will do more to understand and embrace cultural differences in hopes of accepting that just because someone doesn't do things the way I do does not make them inferior, just different.
I had promised that I would not blog anymore because it saddens me that my children live in such a racist country. Even with that, I love America because I know that somewhere in all of its flaws there are still really good Americans. Reading these posts just reaffirms the truth....THAT THERE IS STILL A HUGE PROBLEM WITH RACISM IN AMERICA. Many people are mad because Pastor Wright called out racism in America and specifically in the acts of the government. But your posts only confirm his beliefs. It shows how big the problem of racism is in America and why we need to address it. Jeremiah Wright does not influence my beliefs that racism still exists in this country. White women who clutch their purses as I walk by confirm my belief that racism still exists in this country. A white teacher showing my friend's daughter a picture of the four white Disney princesses and telling her that she is not a princess because she does not "look" like these princesses. My son continuiously scoring within the 90+ percentile on standardized tests and still not being able to get into the top schools in Chicago confirms my belief that...
As I watched the mea culpa, errr...I mean news coverage of the NAACP convention tonight on CNN, I am reminded again of what a chasm exists between the privately owned media and public television. What if the same were to hold true with health care? That the quality of care would go UP if we took the profit out of it? Thank you to Bill Moyers for a thought provoking interview with Rev. Wright. Though I am not a religious person, if any pastor founds a church based on "white liberation theology" I will be its first member! Maybe the black liberation churches could be our mentors. Mmm.
I watched the show on Friday night and thought about it this weekend. I was impressed by a compassionate, intelligent, fair-minded individual. Tonight, Sunday, I saw his speech at the NAACP and was shocked to hear an angry, bitter, divisive man who was mocking and derisive of others in his remarks. I feel I have heard two completely different people, and Bill, I wonder if you have been conned.
Partisans of any stripe are the stupidest people on earth, and have absolutely no interest in seeking the truth.
Nicely said, Timothy. CNN aired Rev Wright's address to the NAACP LIVE! and is so full of themselves, that they are offering ongoing commentary now, and promising to keep going. Nothing they have had to say so far has come close to the Rev's straightforward and funny "sermon" in Detroit. The Rev is a stitch, and one of the few people who could really get away with saying some of the things he has over the years, given his service to this country, his commendations from the White House, his ministry to the poor, and his astounding intellect. I've heard some people discount his service in the military because of rats like Timothy McVeigh and Oswald, who of course were both in the military. These people share more with McVeigh and Oswald than they do with the Rev because of their cheap shots. Hey, lots of vets are homeless too. Being a vet doesn't make you a saint, but don't tell me that Cheney and Rumsfeld are equal in service to their country because they have been in government. Big difference between humping as a grunt and what they do. I pray that God will bless America, though Exodus 20...
(Once more into the breech I go.) Had supper, went for a walk, then checked to see how many posts so far. The column on the right shows about 1663 posts, and I noticed that other topics had the same corporate trolls posting there. I went to look and realized that they are posting comments about "The Controversy Over Wright" all over the place. These guys are so bored and so out of it that they don't even know what topic they are posting in. It's sad to see how little corporate trolls even care about doing a hatchet job well. If you are going to smear somebody at least make an effort to make it look good. I just realized these guys are probably paid per post, so they don't care. (I'm going to go read a book now. Don't stay up too late.)
Mr. Moyers and PBS - THANK YOU!!! I am an ardent Obama supporter, but I must admit much discomfort over Rev. Wright's views and comments. All of that changed with your interview. He was engaging, compassionate, knowledgable and, more than anything else, a man of God. His truth about America's brutal history may be disturbing to some, but the truth will, indeed, set us free.
Are you people so bullheaded that you can't recognize and admit you've been obviously tricked and used as puppets for someone's crooked agenda?!?! Someone in the media FINALLY (since you have to have your hand held & can't research on our own) lays the whole thing out for those of you who say "video doesn't lie" so that you can see EVERYTHING that Rev. Wright actually said, instead of just what some anti-Obama body wants to spoon feed you, so that you can regurgitate it on others! Congratulations, you're the reason why racism and the need for change and unity are such BIG issues in 2008 A.D. We've put men on the moon, found ways to fight cancer, and gone leaps and bounds with technology, yet we still can't come together because of differences in our skin pigmentation. You should feel proud. Wait...anyone perpetuating this foolishness is stupid, so let me let you know I'm being facetious. Sorry, I'm not really congratulating you. Sorry, (gotta make it real simple for you) you're dumb. It is truly sad but not surprising to see such hatred, racism and even worse, blind idiocy spewed across blogs. This done by those who knew NOTHING...
To expose Obamadot.com: Do these remarks below truly represent your web site and its' visitors? They are the kind of excuses all abusers give to their victim wives, children, girlfriends ect... "It is your fault, I did it, or it is your fault I hate you, it is your fault I blackened your eye, or it is your fault I had to beat you, or burn you, or shoot you, or worse, and so forth and so on. They do have classes for people given to abuse others. I'm sure you did not mean to imply you are an abuser, along with the people who follow you. No one but you is to blame for your hate speech and misinformation. I wish you well, and I wish you truth. Most people here now know Rev. Wright intended no hate toward anyone. They listened to his speech. Did you? "Obama supporters are making us whites hate you blacks and it's your own fault." "Posted by: exposeobamadotcom"
Thank you, thank you, thank you for exposing this manufactured "controversy" for what it is! I've always prided myelf for being above mainstream media manipulation but i must admit that this time around they got me and got me good! Only 15 minutes into the program i began to realize that there is a carefully orchestrated campaign in some media circles to demonize Jeremiah Wright, with the ultimte aim of stoppping Obama's momentum. I have no doubt that viewers who watched this program with an open mind will be appalled and outraged at the degree to which some commentators who preach the "fair and balanced" gospel have exploited the trust of their viewers in this matter to promote their own agendas. Isn't it curious that no one from the Fox News Channel has ever hinted that Jeremiah Wright's comments about 9/11 were actually a word for word reference to an interview which a former U.S ambassador made on FOX NEWS immediately after 9/11, blaming America's actions for the attacks??? This whole thing is rotten to the core! If there was ever a time for the public to think for itself, this is it.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for exposing this manufactured "controversy" for what it is! I've always prided myelf for being above mainstream media manipulation but i must admit that this time around they got me and got me good! Only 15 minutes into the program i began to realize that there is a carefully orchestrated campaign in some media circles to demonize Jeremiah Wright, with the ultimte aim of stoppping Obama's momentum. I have no doubt that viewers who watched this program with an open mind will be appalled and outraged at the degree to which some commentators who preach the "fair and balanced" gospel have exploited the trust of their viewers in this matter to promote their own agendas. Isn't it curious that no one from the Fox News Channel has ever hinted that Jeremiah Wright's comments about 9/11 were actually a word for word reference to an interview which a former U.S ambassador made on FOX NEWS immediately after 9/11, blaming America's actions for the attacks??? This whole thing is rotten to the core! If there was ever a time for the public to think for itself, this is it.
Thank you, trolls, for posting so many of your lies in one place. Since most of the people who watch PBS are thoughtful and don't take things at face value, we will research every one of the "facts" you have posted here. You make our lives much easier.
I have heard that people are paid to write destructive blog posts that are full of vile, cruel remarks. It seems that this is true here. Let me say that I totally agree that this was a constructive interview. I understand much more about Rev. Wright from this interview than I could possibly understand from the sound bites from commercial TV. Thank you, Bill Moyers.
Dear Jack: You're not here because you need information or education. It appears information has been offered, and opportunities for education have been made available to you. Are you being paid to purvey misinformation? Why are you here?
As I came back to the blog and again see so much hatred of Blacks. It is like JH said, disconcerning and sad. I see also lots of approval of what was said and the fact that Rev Wright was given an opportunity to express himself. But you still see the hate because these people claim that they are offended by God Damn America but did you serve this country? Did you place your life on the line? Some would say he joined so that he could get money for school but lots do join the service to go to school and do better for themselves. But if you are rich and do not need to serve in the military for school money, why don't you serve for the sake that you love this country only? For the ones who claim that Rev Wright did not have the right to say anything because he is Black but who but the native American have more right to say anything? Blacks have died for this country from the time they were brought here in all the wars and even now. So that you are offended that a Black man said GD America...
Catch Rev. Wright speaking on CNN in a couple of minutes!
In 1981, the first cases of AIDS (Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome) were identified among gay men in the United States, acquiring the designation, GRID (Gay-Related Immune Deficiency) So much for Jerry Wright's comments that the government created AIDS to get rid of blacks. AIDS was even called Gay Related Immune Deficiency back then, not, Black Related Immune Deficiency. Jery Wright LIES!!!!!!!
Shame on the main stream media.
Dear Lady 49: After reading your comments I think that I might conclude that our reasoning is similar, but our conclusions differ. I also think that we could have a long, calm conversation about everything you mention and at the end, things would still remain the same. I really do have the "live and let live" philosophy. This is why any "rabble-rousing" is bothersome to me. If everyone were to live by the Golden Rule, as you say, be respectful of one another, things would be much better. I am as bothered by the far-right preachers as I am with Reverend Wright's comments. This may be surprising to you. Whenever anyone uses the "holier than thou" argument, there is trouble. Whenever anyone divides by using the WE are a united group, this is bothersome to me. If we could all respect one another and live in peace that would be great. Maybe the complaints would cease, but as Henry David Thoreau so aptly wrote: "The fault-finder will find fault even in Paradise." I believe this to be true. I can only take responsibility for my own actions, and again, won't accept the blame for the actions of others. I also...
Your show made me realize what a hatchet job the commercial media is doing on Wright and Obama. They had me thinking Wright was some demon, but hearing a longer clip of his sermon on your show what he said would make perfect sense to a Church serving a University community even if the people were all white. I think he is in the tradition of an orator and peacher of almost a Mark Twainsian character and he was speaking the truth. To watch Hannity and Combs on fox tell it they he is some imminent danger and hater and I can see the media now turing against Obama on a number of fronts. Hillary may well win the nomination after all and an opportunity would have been lost. I am surprised how quickly race has been injected into this campaign and how sneakily and meanly the powers that be have done this. Anyways Wright is not a threat, but more a national treasure as well as a bit of a character and we are better for it. Next they will criticize Bill for doing this important show. But at least he is reporting the news and not making it...
I am sorry to say, that in this full interview, Rev Wright has exposed himself as lacking in true understanding of scripture,or much worse. When the Israelis were being taken away to become slaves, they decided to kill their children. Rev Wright said they wanted revenge against their captors and then it became revenge against their own babies. He needed that point for later analogies re America. he needed it so much that it caused him to unconsciously, or consciously (that is a big question) twist the truth of that historical scripture into the Israelites hating and killing their own babies. No, the fact is, that the Israelites did not want their children to grow up as slaves. To be brutalized and spiritually diminished, so, out of deep love, they believed death would be a better choice for them. That is obvious, they never hated their babies - that is the height of blindness in scriptual and human understanding. He railed against slavery - yes it was awful and so wrong, but to pray and exhort G-d Damn America, is to again be (purposefully?) blind to the fact that millions of white people fought (hundreds of thousands died) to end...
Jack Howard, You still have not taken off the blinders. Why? Are you afraid of change? It will be good for this country. You must have never been bit in the butt by the bureaucracy. You lucky ducky you. You aren't one of the investors of the prisons are you, trying to protect your investment? Are in with the pharmaceutical companies making record profits for HIV and AIDS medications? That is no conspiracy that is the truth. Who always get experimented on and stepped on and marginalized the most in this country? Black folk. All for the love of money and power. Sincerely, BJ
exposeobamadotcom I agree that pastors don't deserve "golden parachutes." IF (Big "IF") that is true, I'd look at it this way. How many millions have CEO's received for running their companies into the ground after FOUR years? And how many WHITE pastors received great deals from their own churches? And how many times did you complain about that? But here, Rev. Wright grows his church from 89 to 6000 over THIRTY years of service and you squeal like a little pig. I don't know for a fact that Wright is going to receive what you say. If he does, then it's up to his congregation to complain. It is, after all, THEIR money, not yours or mine.
How refreshing! I would like to attend a few sermons by Reverend Wright, thought provoking and truthful. You know sometimes the truth hurts, but if we are to change, we must look at our ugliness as well as our goodness. What the media is today is mostly composed of sensational sound-bites lacking in context which are used to promote one-sided views. Not giving people all the information in the media but only limited sound-bites, is not in my opinion responsible, ethical journalism, but a manipulation of peoples judgement. Thank you Bill Moyers for your challenging, thought provoking, intelligent, open minded, heartfelt interviews. Thank you Reverend Wright for being brave and speaking the truth as you see it. Debra
Hey exposeobamadotcom, Then how come you are not mobilized against white people who are openly racist? I heard the head of the republican party in NC say that Jesse Helms was a great American. He is a known bigot and obviously she is one too. With her passive-aggressive personality. Also what about those KKK and Aryan Nation folk who are openly anti government and have their own "white power" Christian views about being the Aryan pure white true decedents of the Israelites, I hear no out rage when they make their way to the media. You probably understand and sympathize with them right? Maybe that is your true calling, a skinhead. Go join up cause you already think like them. You are them aren't you? Sincerely, BJ
Unfortunately, I was right. Very few are taking Bill Moyers' advice. And no one in the media is "watching and listening" to Rev. Wright's words. Instead, the media is using Rev. Wright as a code-word. He has become the 2008 version of Willie Horton. The public is taking its cues from the media that only says, "Rev. Wright is the gift to the Clinton campaign that just keeps giving." The media purposely replays Rev. Wright stating that his job is to teach his congregation about religion and Obama's job is to inspire people about politics. Thus, Rev. Wright tells his flock how the bible shows us when God rejects a nation that goes astray. (i.e. How God condemns America.) This is nothing new, folks. How many times do priests and preachers warn us that God will punish us if we disobey? HELLO. But Rev. Wright says it and people want to tie him around Obama's neck. But the media doesn't want to hear it and the public is too lazy to care. What we get as a result is what we deserve. The roosters will, indeed, come home to roost.
Mr Moyers thank you for your courage and integrity in your interview of Rev. Wright. Thank you Rev. Wright for speaking the truth as you see the truth and remaining true to your calling. Very few saw the need for prophetic witness in the days following 9/11. The tragic consequences of a nation over-reacting to what happened that day. Very few saw a war in Iraq as unjust, illegal and unwarranted. But there were some who saw through the smoke screen of deception. It seems that same smoke screen is going up once again. Attempting to cloud the senses of us all once again. Weapons of mass distraction once again.
Church builds $1 million mansion for Wright http://www.suntimes.com/business/867629,CST-NWS-wright29.article
FYI. In the Chicago Sun-Times on page 2 recently, was a picture of Rev. Wright's new $1 Million home in a gated community. They dug deeper into the paperwork, and there is a $10 million trust fund attached, presumably for Rev. Wright's retirement. I don't know about you, but most pastoral servants don't get an $11 million "Golden Parachute". You don't hear anything about it, but it must be OK with Barack. I posted that as a comment to Barack, and I got back a canned email about the Wright comments. I am more cheesed about this "retirement package". Yes, Wright worked for 30 years. No, he doesn't deserve $11 million dollars working for the church. There may be further on this in the Chicago Sun Times, but I only saw the one story. It deserves a lot more play. Kind of elitist to look the other way while the "spiritual mentor" retires on multiple millions. Happy Hunting!
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TO XTRINITYMEMBER: They are posting the same "thank you" and "bless you" pathetic notes because they were mobilized by the RACIST CULT as well as the OBAMA CAMPAIGN. They are trying to manipulate people the same way Bill Moyers tried to manipulate public opinion with this so called "interview". The person/few people that post all the "thank you" and "bless your wonderful soul" :-) notes are not even familiar with the concept of the "IP ADDRESS" that their computer/s/ leave here.
xtrinityMember,.. because Obama has his puppets working overtime.
I recd this interesting email...hmmmm: Rudy Giuliani's priest has been accused in grand jury proceedings of molesting several children and covering up the molestation of others. Giuliani would not disavow him on the campaign trail and still works with him. Mitt Romney was part of a church that did not view black Americans as equals and actively discriminated against them. He stayed with that church all the way into his early thirties, until they were finally forced to change their policies to come into compliance with civil rights legislation. Romney never disavowed his church back then or now. He said he was proud of the faith of his fathers. Jerry Falwell said America had 9/11 coming because we tolerated gays, feminists and liberals. It was our fault. Our chickens had come home to roost, if you will. John McCain proudly received his support and even spoke at his university's commencement. Reverend John Hagee has called the Catholic Church the "Great Whore." He has said that the Anti-Christ will rise out of the European Union (of course, the Anti-Christ will also be Jewish). He has said all Muslims are trained to kill and will be part of the devil's army...
TO xtrinitymember: They are posting the same "thank you" and "bless you" pathetic notes because they were mobilized by the RACIST CULT as well as the OBAMA CAMPAIGN. They are trying to manipulate people the same way Bill Moyers tried to manipulate public opinion with this so called "interview". The person/few people that post all the "thank you" and "bless your wonderful soul" :-) notes are not even familiar with the concept of the "IP ADDRESS" that their computer/s/ leave here.
Obama is a lier and a snake.
Rev. Wright is 100% right with regards to the miseducation of America. This is a good man. I think I would rather vote for him. It is sad that we can longer identify the truth.
Obama supporters are making us whites hate you blacks and it's your own fault.
Hey MR exposeonstupidity: Everybody and their uncle including Govenor Rendell of Pennsylvania praised Minister Farrakahn for his Million man march and his work promoting family unity. Where were your objections when THE OPPONENTS DID IT Now don't get it twisted you can't have it both ways.
Why is the same person's (Obama supporter)using different screen names to post the same rubbish? It's so obvious.
(I couldn't stay away. I had to check back before supper.) Since the trolls are still spamming this blog I thought I'd post some of my own thoughts about how to fix the system. Here is another one: When President Lyndon Johnson signed the Voting Rights Act long ago, he had tons of liberals demanding all sorts of civil rights laws be passed. He pointed out that all people really needed was the right to vote and the politicians would be forced to listen to the voters if they wanted to be re-elected. Over time we have all lost the vote. It didn't just start in 2000 with "hanging chad" the vote has been whittled away as the press has become less and less "free" and more and more corporate letting the politicians and the voters off the hook. Here are four things that we must do to regain the vote. 1. Quorum Calls In every elected body, from the local Garden Club to the US House/Senate, there is a thing called a "quorum call". That's where anyone can demand that at least two-thirds of the people be present to hold a vote. Every elected body uses "quorum calls", every...
Thank you for the professional, and HONEST report. i wish the cable networks would follow your example, and allow the sources of stories (or character assasinations) speak directly for themselves. It provides for clarity and understanding that is necessary. Thanks for not creating a soundbite, but demonstrating ethical journalism. [I am a white christian,republican, woman who desires unity in our country and in the church] AND i appreciate Rev.Wright's proclamation of truth, and the message of redemption in Christ.
Brenda, I am responding to your question, "If black Americans are healed, will white Americans suffer?" If justice and equality is meted out across the board to all Americans, everyone can prosper. No one suffers. Some of the media and some unscrupulous polictians tout FEAR to Americans for their own gain. Unfortunately, some Americans fall for it. When equality and justice prevail in America across the board, all Americans will prosper. Where there is injustice, there is no peace and all of us as Americans suffer in end because of it. Our mindset has to start changing into the understanding that we are all in this together. We are a UNITED States of America regardless of race. It is imperative that we become a united people because a house divided against itself cannot stand.
bj,bj,bj, one does not have to prove a negative.
Where Was Obama? Again. Where was Obama, when Farrakhan said: “In the last 10 years America has experienced more calamities than at any other time period in American history. Why, America? God is angry.”[Farrakhan] Obama was in the crowd, listening. For a man whose campaign had no qualms about using even the vaguest reference to race, as a charge of racism, where was Obama (?) when Farrakhan said: “The real evil in America is the idea that under-girds the setup of the Western world, and that idea is called white supremacy.” [Farrakhan] Where was Obama (?) when Farrakhan said: “And so, white folks are having heart attacks today because their world is coming down. And if you look at the Asians, the Asians have the fastest-growing economies in the world.’ [Farrakhan] Obama was in the crowd. Was he nodding? After all, his pastor, who had led Obama to see the Truth in Christ, who had briefly employed Obama, and would some day come to depend on Obama’s financial contributions, this pastor who had married Obama to a black women whose mind was singularly preocupid with White racism, a pastor who is still shepparding Obama’s children, this pastor had co-organized the...
Hey, Big Al, you're right. The pastors of the OTHER candidates have a lot more destruction on their minds. Rev. Wright speaks of what has gone before and how we can improve ourselves. The other pastors, who endorse candidates (esp. McCain), speak of what is to come and how they are hoping for the destruction of the human race- nuclear war anyone? Even Hillary said she would 'obliterate' Iran under certain circumstances - with thousands more innocent people sacrificed. Haven't you killed enough people to date?? OK, lets stop Obama, as one poster wants to do. Firstly, that is not the subject of this post. But having put it out there - let's ask who this poster wants in his place? I am posting from outside the USA so have no vested interest in the elections - except that more bombing of innocent people in far off countries does not do it for me. We all follow what you do from all over the world and Obama is the most outstanding candidate to get your country back on track. Shame on your MSM for the smear job. Rev Wright is one of the most authentic people in your country. God...
Lady & Beverly,... the fact is that Trinity is not about love to ALL but to BLACKS.
US CITIZEN, The questions I posed to you were purely rhetorical. Only food for thought. I made no assumptions. I think that while you want to about unity, you want to do so only on your terms.One of the core principles of GOODWILL is RESPECT. You have to give the other person credit for having a different set of circumstances that are equally as legitimate as yours. When you heard some of Reverend Wright's comments, you were offended as many of us were. That is a good thing on your part because at least you cared enough to be concerned that you were being accused falsely. But when I listened more carefully and thought about his motivation for saying so,I understood that they did not come from a place of hatred or disdain for America or "White" people. Those comments were not directed specifically at you. So I have a few more questions to ask of you: 1) Don't you realize that Reverend Wright knows and understands that Sojourner Truth did not get the slaves to freedom without the help of White people who believed that slavery was wrong? 2)Don't you think that Reverend Wright knows that the parents of...
I knew this interview would not get the attention that the sound bytes received because the media does not want the controversy to be over. I have friends who could not see the interview because their PBS channel did not work but their other channels did (that is not hard to believe). This country wants to condemn Pastor Wright for saying some things that were true. I may not agree with everything he said, but some were true. I am African American and the descendants of slaves that helped build this country and have yet to get an apology from the people (and you know who you are). I went to Ghana, Africa last year and that country is giving every African-American free land, which is an apology for selling us. Africa has done its part but the United States has not. This country is built on GOOD & BAD history and you will have to live with that. Fortunately, Obama does not have to be reminded of slavery because his family is White and African---I hope he can look pass the hurt that was not so long ago (just look back 40 years ago). Moreover, for you who say...
Hey exposeobamadotcom, I think you are coming to terms with yourself. Keep rationalizing through your thought process and I think you will finally come to terms with your problems. Sometimes blogging can be the best therapy. You know go back and read your own posts. That way you don't have to repost the same thing over and over. You really seem upset about CHANGE. Go Obama! Sincerely, BJ Sincerely, BJ
Now you know why Moyers is called the "Papal Nuncio" of the Hard Left. Please leave an offering in the collection plate. And don't forget to genuflect as you exit your pews.
Thanks, Bill Moyer and PBS. I am so glad I got a chance to see this interview today and the rest of the sermon. It made me realize this was a very low political attack against Senator Obama. I don't agree with all the comments in Rev. Wrights sermon. However, there were more portions of his sermon that were true than not. I have great respect for someone who can speak the truth without fear. I was surprised to see nothing racist or Anti-American about his sermons. The message I got was God Damn America if we don't change and do what is right. Due to what I had seen previously blasted in the media about Rev. Wright, I didn't expect this, but I saw a man who is passionate about America and injustice. I saw a man wanting us as Americans to get on the right track so that we can be a better country. I believe if we all work together as a true United States of America that we can do it. I can see why Senator Obama attended his church. I have friends I hang out with and I don't agree with everything my friends believe...
Eric Burton [4/25, 2:47], the American taxpayers you reference who support public television include liberal, voting Democrats and Republicans who believe in truth and the value of a quality, informed, non-biased media. Bill Moyers is the last true American journalist who is also a statesman. His faith is in God, not in the government. Moyers' mission is to "speak the truth in love" as commanded by our faith in God. You and your conservative Republican racists have placed your faith in your political identity and replaced God with a Republican label. You take comfort in your hatred of the gospel that commands love and charity and inclusion. You and others like you have made your party your god. The far-right wing conservatives, aka racists Republicans, wouldn't know truth if it bit them on the tongue. This is still America and public television is American. If you need to suck your tongue, go watch Fox Nonsense Network. Jeremiah Wright is right. Devotees of Fox are false. Fox is faux, a fraud for fools. Go confess your sins to Hagee.
Hey exposeobamadotcom, What seem old is your old ways. It's seem the group that you hang with is getting alot smaller. I have read your comments and what I'm talking from it is that you are a scared person. What are you scared of. I guess that you feel like some blacks felt back in the days. Hate won't get you anywhere. I know that your head is huting right now. Because you seem like you keep running into a brick wall with nowhere to go. Hate is a very ugly word and I see that you are getting a feel of why that word is what it is.
The Shepard’s Crook of Christianity Ebola is to humans what Black Liberation Theology is to the church. Ebola was popularized in the movie “Outbreak” and the book, “Hot Zone.” The virus is what they call a Level 4 pathogen that causes severe hemorrhaging and rapid death through the massive destruction of the liver. But, unfortunately, for those in favor of reducing the number of people on the planet, it also kills animals. The strains of the virus have eerie sounding names – Ebola Zaire, Ebola Sudan, Ebola Reston, Ebola Tai and Marburg. Amazingly, the Ebola virus under an electron microscope looks a little like a sheep herder’s staff, hence the name, “Shepard’s Crook.” If it happens to show up in your blood, or in that of your pet monkey, there is a nine out of 10 chance of death. Black Liberation Theology (BLT) is the Shepard’s Crook of Christianity and one of its prophets is Reverend Jeremiah Wright. Without one of his flock running for President of the United States, Wright’s message would probably not have hit front page news. But since Obama, unifying-man-for-all-seasons and candidate-for-Hope-and-Change, is running for the top job it only makes sense that all of his...
Reality of Brutal Media Bias, Framed by Axelrod http://www.stop-obama.org/?p=261
Here’s another one. Obama claims on the View TV show that his preacher Jeremiah Wright has acknowledged that his remarks were inappropriate and hurtful. This is utter BS. Wright has said no such thing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11QmVyFR_mw&feature=related
HERE ARE SIX SUGGESTIONS FOR WHAT TO DO. 1. Your stump speech is sounding old and out of touch. You made a mistake by not giving the bored press (and voters) something new last Tuesday when you lost Pennsylvania. Come up with something fresh that's focused on the general election. Recapture the optimistic tone of your start and discard the weary, prickly and distracted tone you've taken on. 2. When you get into trouble, pick one, simple explanation. And stay with it. Take the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr. You said you weren't sitting in church when he said those ugly things. Two days later, you excused him, saying his comments didn't give "a well-rounded portrait" of him. Two days after that, you condemned his statements as "not only wrong but divisive" but still couldn't "disavow him" any more than you could your grandmother. Ten days later, you implied if Wright hadn't retired, you might have left his church. It would have been better to say from the start that Wright's words were wrong and offensive and you should have spoken out earlier. The applause would have been deafening. 3. Your lack of achievements undercuts your core themes. It's powerful when...
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!! Bill you did a great and important interview. Thanks for giving Rev. Wright the opportunity to rebut the slander, hatred and narrow-mindedness of so many people's misconceptions. I'm telling all my friend (and enemies) to watch your interview online.
Here are two more sources for Obama’s lie on campaign financing: http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/content/Questionnaire_Midwest_Democracy_Network_Obama_02192008.pdf http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/04/obama-prepares.html At best, he’s a flip-flopper (who doesn’t want to give up his huge piggy bank). At worst, LIAR.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXxkctYRAZQ
Imagine that, letting Pastor Wright speak for himself. Would that outlets like FOX actually would just report and let us decide. I think there are some goofballs on here, but at least they got to hear J. Wright in his own complete words before making up their minds, unlike the folks who get their news from FOX, CNN and ABC.
Hey Lady J, Well I guess you get catch that life line. Well let me easy your mind some. You want to read passage from the bible. But you are not reading deep into the bible. But just say did have ok in that same bible say don't put judgement on anyone. That a sin. The problem you have is that you are walking into the deep in of the sea and don't know how to swim. Now you want to talk about Black Liberation Theology. If you don't know anything about it, well fid out. Black Liberation Theology is something that many black understand in more was then one. It more to help blacks deal with all the racism and struggle that blacks have been face with for more then 400 plus years. That is something you don't know anything about. You don't know just how this country have treated there own but when they need blacks that is when they want to call them Americans. This war and many others wars blacks have die day after day. Doing the civil war blacks fought for freedom, it didn't happen and that happen many years ago. Blacks have die by...
Hey Jack Howard: Where is your proof that the US Government has no connection? You still have blinders on. I can not believe that American citizens are so gullible to believe that the people running the US government do not partake in conspiracy that potentially hurts the people that are already suffering from being marginalized for MONEY and POWER. Which in turn has created more prisons being built to house these people for more MONEY. You are just arguing for the sake of arguing? I do not necessarily think it was planned to the T, but the US Government have done nothing to help genuinely look into the matter. They just are drawn into the same stereotypes and ignorance about African Americans and pass policy based on their own biases. Sincerely, BJ
To obamaexposeddotcom: ENOUGH OF YOUR IDIOTIC POSTS. We get it that you hate Obama, but stop spreading lies about him. He doesn't hate america or anything else. You are an idiot. If you want to take him on based on policy fine, leave the personal stuff out of it. Tool.
You know I missed Obama's whole message until this interview... WIERD I KNOW.... but blacks have to have faith that all whites are not racist, and whites have to have faith that all don't think they are racist. It's hard to think either of these things when reading these internet post. but whether we vote for obama or don't. PLEASE DON'T MISS THE MAIN MESSAGE LIKE I HAVE BEEN DOING!!!!!!!!!!
If we expect hard ball from journalists, the Wright interview was Bill Moyer playing over-50 slow-pitch softball. As for the Rev. Wright, the best thing he could do for Sen. Obama is avoid the spotlight, but apparently the pastor's ego won't allow it. He is putting himself above Sen. Obama's run for the Presidency.
Thank you Mr. Bill Moyer, Your interview with Rev. Jeremiah Wright was open and honest. The media committed a travesty, when they incorrectly picked out sound bites and put spins on them. Rev. Wright is an educated, Harvard graduate, who has only spoken the truth. There are some, who just don't want to hear the truth, including the Clintons, who are hypocrits. I noticed there has been very little media coverage of the wonderful interview. The same media representatives who wouldn't stop playing the sound bites, are asking why doesn't he just go away??.Because, they wouldn't let him go away!!I will watch the repeat interviews, next week. Thank you again and God bless you!!
I've read a certain harsh series of posts. Gradually, each post got closer to the posters real truth. The question implied was this, " If black Americans are healed, will white Americans suffer?" Sounded like the poster may have decided, that white Americans will suffer, and is turned off. I'm wondering what others think. Now, that this implied truth is on the table. It can now be discussed. America is a great grand wonderful successful experiment. I believe in hope!
If we expect journalists to play hard ball, this interview was Bill Moyer playing over-50 slow-pitch softball. As for the Rev. Wright, the best thing he could do for Sen. Obama is stay out of the spotlight, but apparently the pastor's ego won't allow it.
Dear Lady49, Please forgive my clumsy posting here. I have failed to clearly delineate to whom I am addressing my comments. I do not deem you to be an internet troll. But there are folks trolling/posting here who care nothing about the path of a true human. Internet anonymity leaves open a bit of doubt in my mind as to whether you are who you say you are or that you're are even a lady - but I will take you on your, ahem... word. You would prolly enjoy the berating I just got from, "she who must be obeyed" for tweaking you thusly. I go now with the rejoinder that Bill Moyers is no friend of the truth. indigenously yours in the pursuit of truth, Traditional American
Thank you for providing the information on this web site. If the MSM had vetted Barack Obama 4 months ago, Hillary could have clinched the nomination on Super Tuesday. Voters should scrutinize the personal choices (e.g., choosing ‘Black Liberation Theology’) of a candidate which can influence his/her perception of the world and the events taking place in the world. Many Lies + Obama’s Choice of ‘Black Liberation Theology’ + 20 Years of Significant Financial Support For The Preaching of ‘Black Liberation Theology’ + Exposed His Daughters To The Anti-White Ideology of ‘Black Liberation Theology’ = Barack Obama Is Unelectable. Linda Chavez wrote “Afrocentrism Is the Problem” in the 3/19/2008 edition of ‘National Review Online.’ Check the archives at: http://www.nationalreview.com/archives/?q=MjAwODAzMTc
Rev. Wright's speech to the National Press Club will air tomorrow morning, Monday, April 28 at 9am on C-Span 2.
Rev. Wright's speech to the National Press Club will air tomorrow morning, Monday, April 28 at 9am on C-Span 2.
OBAMA LAUNDRY LIST OF LIES as of April 16, 2008 (76 lies and counting) 76) “I am the only candidate who isn’t taking a dime from Washington lobbyist” - LIAR- The record shows quite the opposite. According to USA Today, Obama’s campaign fundraising team includes 38 members of law firms that were paid $138 million last year to lobby the federal government, records show. Those lawyers, including 10 former federal lobbyists, have pledged to raise at least $3.5 million for the Illinois senator’s presidential race. Employees of their firms have given Obama’s campaign $2.26 million, a USA TODAY analysis of campaign finance data shows. Source: http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-04-15-obama_N.htm 75) “I did not take money from oil companies” -LIAR- It is against the law to take money from oil companies. None of your opponents take money from oil companies either. 74) “I did not recall meeting Nadhmi Auchi at any time or on any occasion” - LIAR - But a government witness said on Monday, during Antoin Rezko’s corruption trial, that he recalled seeing Sen. Barack Obama at a party that Rezko held in 2004 to honor Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi-born tycoon. Two other guests at the party declared the Obamas were present...
Jason, you've documented a possible connection the contras, the drug trade, and Reagan financing the battle against the contras. Big deal. The question is whether there was a U.S. govt. conspired to introduce drugs into black cmmunioties in order to imprison the black population. This you have provided no evidence for, because this did not happen.
Thanks for listening Mr. Moyer real love your style you listened your patience I value. Loved the interview classic. Am an African American living in the UK I just really feel that in the US it's a dangerous thing being a blackman in this day an age.
2 comments- first to Lady J re: the statement "Rev. Wright needs to take a vacation". Didn't you know he retired from the church several months ago? Your wish is granted. And James, cut out the repetitious copy and paste of a post you made yesterday many times - get a life. Love it when the racists get angry - shows they are not getting their way. Rev. Wright "turned the other cheek" in his interview, and confirms his goodness even more. God Bless!
You call that an interview? My 7 year old daughter throws harder softballs that that. No question about Farrahkan at all, or how an award to a racist bigot furthers his mission. No question about 9/11 chickens come home to roost or U.S. caused AIDS; and no explanation provided.
Thank you for the program, Bill Moyer. And for your understanding of religion in America. Rev. Wright is a powerful force for good in Chicago and, now, the U.S. The Rove tactics exposed on this comment file remind us of just how dirty those people play. May they choke on their own venom! We need to continue this discussion of race, for most Americans have a lot to learn about the good and intelligence in the black community. (P.S. I'm white.)
As a 3rd generation, arab American, I found Rev. Wright's speech--as a whole--not at all racist, or preaching hatred or aggression towards whites. But rather, he explains the ramification of ones actions in his analogy of "...coming home to roost". In that rgard, he is absolutely correct; one reaps what one sows. Everytime anyone has spoken out against this war, or has criticized President Bush; especially from 9/11 to 2005, these people were castigated, verbally assaulted and labed as cowards, anti-American; they were ostrasized. I applaud Rev. Wright for having the courage to speak. Bravo Rev. Wright. The next time I am ever in Chicago, I know what church I will happiuly visit. GC Assad
Crack cocaine makes its first documented appearance in California, the same year the influential Meneses family in Nicaragua establishes relationships with Colombian drug sellers. 1977 MENESES June: Norwin Meneses is arrested and jailed briefly in connection with the murder of Nicaragua's top Customs investigator. 1978 April: FBI reports Meneses is smuggling multi-kilo quantities of cocaine into U.S. August: DEA links cocaine seized in Panama City to Meneses smuggling ring. 1979 BLANDON SOMOZA One of the Meneses' houses June: Meneses and Danilo Blandon arrive in the United States as political refugees. Meneses goes to San Francisco; Blandon goes to Los Angeles. July: Nicaraguan dictator Anastasio Somoza is overthrown by Communist rebels. He and his followers flee to U.S. AP photo November: Meneses and his wife buy two homes in Pacifica. 1980 ROSS Ricky Ross begins dealing small amounts of cocaine in South Central Los Angeles. March: Former Nicaraguan National Guardsmen begin forming guerrilla army in Honduras and Guatemala. September: Somoza is killed in Paraguay by leftist hit squad. November: Ronald Reagan is elected President. 1981 Contras form in Honduras and Guatemala under auspices of the CIA REAGAN BERMUDEZ June: Contra official Julio Zavala begins selling cocaine in San Francisco. AP photo...
Thank you Mr. Myer, you have shown what it means to be a good journalist or interviewer. You listened and you gave knowledge a cHance. Even the Bible says my people parish for lack of knowledge. Am an African American living in the UK, I honestly feel that America is a dangerous place for a Blackman.In light of the recent verdict in NYC a Blackman shot 50 times and the defendants all found innocent speaks to race and racism in America. God forbid,ff Chelsea Clinton was mistakenly shot 50 times would Senator Clinton the junior Senator from NY not be up in arms ? If by bad luck,Al Gore's son was mistakenly shot 50 times would corporate American Networks not be up in a roar ? Well I'll always love America its the idea that a white person blood is more vaulabe than a Black person bothers me. Would Americans be mad,angry or disgusted once they find out that George Bush started planning to invade Iraq from the very 1st NSC Meeting.uuuuHMMMMMM
truth... As I've said before, the fact that the cia was involved in the drug trade during this time is light years away from proving a conspiracy by the U.S. govt. to introduce massive quantities of drugs into the black community specifically for the purpose of imprisoning the black population. that just plain didn't happen, and there is no evidence whatsoever that this did occur. Wright is a dangerous fanatice for preaching this obvious lie.
It is trully sad to live in a country where race is such a big issue. I'ts even sadder when you see Christians not fighting for equality and leading by example. I have been inspired by the Lord to write this poem. To GOD be the glory What role will race play in heaven ? This is a question I often ponder Especially when I am at church, I often wonder. “Why are most church congregations so segregated, Is it by design or satan’s plan to keep us seperated”? I believe it’s a test that GOD has given us to take on race, love, harmony and the decisions we make. We often say we love all people and treat everyone the same until a problem occurs then we look for others to blame. This is when our minds run and we begin to sterotype and our passion for others turns into just hype. Then we use one situation to judge an entire race by not separating the incident from the color of their face. Daily we must all renew our minds and examine are hearts by taking a stance against inequality and doing our part. Lets get beyond status quo...
What a beautiful interview. I hope Moyers interviews Obama after he wins the Presidential race. R. Wright; there was a resonance of truth in his sermons, his quotes, one that echoes in the voices of the many he speaks for, speaks with. Wonderful, enlightening, even inspiring. A generation that is beholden to the largess in the history of America. Wonderful, enlightning, even inspiring.
tradamerica: Let me address you first. My comments are not pro-Obama, they are pro-the Opportunity to have an open, honest dialogue with someone who holds a different point of view than I. My comments were in response your obsession with reparations: In your own words: "And admittedly I have an ax to grind in regards to white guilt and reparations for black Americans, and the complete disregard for people like my grandmother." Before responding to you this last time, I re-read all of my comments. 1) I have never "lumped" you. I intentionally separated my comments to you, athough I answered you and another in the same space. If you were confused, please accept my apology. 2) Reparations is not an issue in this dialogue--you brought it up. You mentioned your grandmother and I was just trying to direct you back to the point of the 'conversation'. I'm sure you and your entire family are fine people. 3)The purpose of my comments to you is to try to get you to think about why you feel it necessary to call people who don't think like you...'trolls' Additionally, I was pointing out to you that it takes a bigger man/woman to...
Thanks for airing the Bill Moyers interview of Rev. Wright. Mr. Moyers demonstrated what real television journalism looks like.
I hope Rev. Wright will open his remarks to the National Press Club tomorrow with this simple question: "How many of you here today actually heard or read the full text of my post-9/11 sermon before you commented on it in the media? Please raise your hands." I, for one, had not, and am ashamed to say after seeing the Bill Moyers interview, had managed to draw an entirely wrong-headed conclusion about its meaning based on a wholly misleading sound byte. Thanks, Bill, for reminding at least one former journalist about the need to check the whole truth before joining the herd in drawing a lame-brained conclusion.
Stories on Bill Moyers Journal should make the viewer think; consider; ponder; reflect. The interview with Rev. Wright did just that. Going into the interview I had an opinion quite different than the one I had after the interview. Thanks, Bill.
Bill Moyers, thank you for the interview.
Thank you for airing the interview of Rev. Wright. In trying to compete with one another the TV news people no longer act like professional journalists. They are too busy trying to entertain and "out-fox FOX". Bill Moyers showed them what real journalism looks like.
Rev. Wright has a messianic complex. No one is talking about crucifying him. He made hateful statements towards whites and the government, and totally unsubstantiated claims relating to AIDS being created to kill blacks and he expects not to get any reaction from that, especially since one of the front runner candidates and one of his most prominent congregants has sat under this vitriolic teaching for over 20 years, Barak Hussein Obama. He wonders curiously why he is getting such a negative reaction? Come on Rev.Wright!!! What do you expect? You can't go around insinuating hatred and spewing unfounded accusations unfairly towards whites and the government and expect the media not to cover it. What is going on in your mind? You have been around long enough to know better and quite frankly I think you do it purposely because you enjoy the attention. Rev. Wright is misguided in his religious beliefs. He may have done a lot of good in the black community and raises some valid points on governments and leaders through history being evil and corrupt, but if he were a true man of God, which I question exactly of "which god", he would teach what the...
Thanks to Bill Moyer and Rev Wright. Finally some intelligent, balanced conversation on this subject. I for one am tired of sound bites labeled as journalism. Bravo to both of you for having the courage to share this conversation with us.
Hey Question, I can tell that you don't attend church or have a clue about church going. Poeple don't go to church for a pastor, we go for worship of GOD, see in GOD words he tell us, not to put know one before him. That include pastor,priest,haters ect. But one thing I do know is that you don't put judgement on one of his childern. But anyway I glad to throw you an life line before you get lost. The one thing that I just don't get is that you have some people on here claim that they have done they research on issues but after finding them they still don't have a clue. But I know where this is coming from and that is from lack of education. For the ones that claim to have they facts straight need to look pass the FoxNews and other that tell part of a story and they personal opinion on our airwave. The sad part is that the ones that don't know too much about the past or just live in a glass house love to throw stones. Be care because that same stone will get thrown back into your face...
I think this interview was fair and balanced. FNC should take a note from PBS. Great job Bill... We love you Paster Wright.
Some advice for Obama. http://www.newsweek.com/id/134322
It is disturbing how media manipulation creates a different experience for each set of facts. Mr. Moyers decided to go easy on Pastor Wright, which is Bill's right to do so. It is a disservice and does not allow for explanation of how it is that a minister standing before the altar utters profanity and asks Almighty God to inflict pain on a group of people. That the people just happen to be WRight's fellow citizens is doubly puzzling. Here is all you need to know about Barack Obama. Mr. Obama is a smart, talented man. He decided that he wanted to be the President of the United States. He set about with Illinois State Senator Jones to do what amounted to a "master class" in the state senate (since Republicans had owned the first 6 years of Obama's tenure and he only had one year left to make his case for the U.S. Senate) to have all of the hefty bills passed his way. In one year, Obama catapulted himself to the spotlight and became U.S. Senator. This was just a scant 4 years ago. During most of his tenure in the U.S. Senate, Obama has voted present, rather...
I sat down to watch the interview last friday night at 9pm on my local springfield, Illinois PBS station. what was shown was a repeat of a BMJ show from several months back.I don't know why they chose not to show the program. A friend of mine saw the interview and told me that Rev. Wright was very intelligent and well spoken. I hope to see the program at some point in the future. I can read the transcripts and get an idea of what was talked about but to tell you the truth, my comprehension of the interview is greatly increased when i can see and hear the nuances of the interaction. Even though i wasn't able to see the interview, I am glad some people were able to do so and thank you bill for your program.
EXCELLENT JOB PBS?
Thank you Bill Moyers and Reverend Wright for using broadcast to educate and inform the American people. I have nothing but respect for Reverend Wright and plan to vote for Senator Obama. The mass media perpetuates ignorance with misinformation and omission of information. There is no sense of public service in news - shame on the mass media for eroding democracy at a time when information and truth are crucial to our future as a nation.
Jack Howard ignorance is bliss During the Reagan years and under Reagen the CIA new of kilos of cocaine coming into the US the government sponsored it and some fashion or form. I don't believe that the USA is a bad nation; It is still the best country. There are powerful and ignorant rotten apples that at times spoil the basket
First off, I respect Bill Moyers for his contributions to journalism. I'm a former longtime journalist and have long considered him an island of truth-telling in a vast sea of wimpy, corporate, ratings-obsessed, herd-mentality journalism. He brought out some interesting points in the interview with Rev. Wright that help balance the picture that has been painted in recent weeks. But I also agree with the post by Tim H., because Moyers granted Rev. Wright a cushy platform and failed to do his journalistic duty to probe some of the rev's views. Rather than the mere 85-mph fastball down the middle that he offered Wright ("Did you somehow fail to communicate?") Moyers needed to pursue the substance of the comments -- for instance, lumping in the United States' WW II nukes v. Japan with the other supposed atrocities; or likewise, "state terrorism against the Palestinians," obviously a swipe at Israel. Because Wright is trying to have it both ways -- saying that he's a pastor, not a politician, but at the same time pumping out political opinions to his flock. Having taken these positions, the good rev is fair game for tough questioning on them. Moyers had the talent and credibility...
thank you, reverend wright. i am a white atlantan who takes the bus and confronts the "color line" on a daily basis. it is so good to hear the truth. we live in a very sick and hateful society. thank you, reverend wright for having the courage to speak truth.
What's the Matter With Obama http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV0MmuRxnNs
THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH - OBAMA’S CIRCLE OF FRIENDS AND SUPPORT http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/
Obama family EXPOSED.. See it for your self. http://www.stop-obama.org http://www.obamatruth.org
I have read some comments trying to make rev. Wright out as wacky for saying the government has something to do with HIV. Nobody is quite sure how the virus originated but some theories attribute it to the government or govt sponsored programs. These theories are supported by some scientists (http://www.slate.com/id/2186860/). And besides, rev. Wright was arguing that the govt indirectly aided in the spread of HIV due to neglecting the problem.
Well, once again I listened to the Sunday morning talk shows this morning and cannot believe that Moyer's Friday evening interview with Dr. Wright, was mentioned either positively, negatively, or informatively. It was instead more or less dismissed as "interesting", by Gwen Ifill of PBS. No one else admitted to having watched it. The only quote out of the Wright interview was that of Wright saying that Obama "said what he had to say because he is a politician, and I (Wright) had to say what I had to say (during his sermons)because I'm a pastor. Except for Moyer, the press still doesn't get it. Will we never get to "fair and balanced" reporting, even if for only one news "show". Why should Obama be favored with hours of media coverage involving something someone else said, while the person who said it (Wright) isn't recognized in the mainsteam media for at least the essence of what he said during that interview? Isn't it about setting the record straight? I thought the whole idea of the media, especially when it involves issues and charges that could so profoundly affect the outcome of the election and government, was to amplify the facts...
For chima the troll: In 1870 the 15th Amendment was ratified, which provided specifically that the right to vote shall not be denied or abridged on the basis of race, color or previous condition of servitude. This superseded state laws that had directly prohibited black voting. Congress then enacted the Enforcement Act of 1870, which contained criminal penalties for interference with the right to vote, and the Force Act of 1871, which provided for federal election oversight. None of the above is meant to mitigate or otherwise condone the treatment of black Americans, (I am of mixed blood myself), but whiners like you continue to provide the stones that have weighed down the black community for decades. Oh, picked a nice hat full of early Morels. How many of of you uppity urban trolls even know what they are? trad (as in traditional Americans) america
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I was very dismayed in the recent interview with Rev. Wright. I was sure at the time of the controversy that his views had been skewed to put him and Sen. Obama in a bad light. But after hearing his own words I have to admit I was wrong. I listened to his sermon that you played from 2001 that was given shortly after 9/11, if I heard you correctly, and his rambling on and on about how the United States almost deserved what had happened because of what we had done in the past. I was even with him until he lumped Hiroshima and Nagasaki in with those of past evil deeds. That was just absurd. We were attacked and Americans killed even though, with almost half the world at war, we sat out and had not taken up arms against any country in that conflict. We fought on two different fronts at the same time four 5 almost 6 years. We had suffered tremendous losses, as did others, in that struggle. The Japanese military at that time was just as brutal and evil as the Nazi's. They killed and enslaved hundreds of thousands of people of all colors...
why did it take 20 years for obama to figure it out that wright was radical and out of the loop? obama made wright walk the plank for obama's political future, now if the politically correct winds blow in wright's favor will obama fish his old "uncle" out of the sea?
The Rev is right. I am not offended. He teaches and informs and grows my world view. For this I am thankful.
I'm quite amused that 48 hours after Reverend Wright's PBS interview, so many people are still posting comments here that accuse him of "blaming America for 9/11." It is OBVIOUS none of you even took the time to watch the interview, because if you had, you would have seen he was QUOTING the former US Ambassador to Iraq under Reagan, Edward Peck. Wright expressly told his church in his 9/11 sermon that he was quoting the words of Edward Peck, so why are you people choosing to remain willfully ignorant? You just don't want to know the truth, eh? Also, how can you people call Wright "un-American", when he VOLUNTEERED to fight for America as a Marine DESPITE not having the right to vote as a black man in the late 1950s???
Interesting that leftwing trolls attempt obviate my posts by lumping me in with the rightwing trolls. It's the same thing that the Daily KOS did to Obama when he sided with Republicans on tort reform. Just Google it. Entertainer Rush Limbaugh did the same to McCain for breaking with the Repubs on issue after issue. Lady49, I mentioned my Peigan grandmother in context of being raised by she and my FULL BLOODED African American grandfather. (The reason for the caps is that Wrights obvious mixed heritage makes his hate speech all the less circumspect.) They were fiercely independent and taught me to be the same. My gramps believed the secret to success in America was, "to get up in the morning and let your feet hit the floor." In other words, go to work and don't blame your problems on the white boogie man. Peigan people (you would call them Black Feet) were never defeated and to this day are the rightful owners of the land you would call Chicago. Pardon me if I don't hold my breath waiting for the likes of Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackass, and Rev. Wright to do right by First Nations people. My grandfather was...
if obama thought wright was radical and out of the loop why did it take him 20 YEARS to figure that out? since obama had wright walk the plank for his own political advancement will he go fish wright out of the sea if the politically correct winds begin blowing again in wright's favor?
I watched all the Sunday morning news shows waiting for someone to address the defamation done to rev. Wright's reputation. Not one corrected themselves. In fact, they did the opposite. Meet the Press tried to stir controversy about Wright calling Obama a politician. They all insinuated that Wright is now spinning his sermons to preserve his legacy. Either none of the Sunday morning news hosts watched the show or they are purposely trying to tarnish Obama and garner ratings by attacking Jeremiah Wright. Maybe they do not want to admit that they were wrong. I am deeply disappointed in Tim Russert, whom I have respect for as a journalist, as well as the other political pundits.
Lady49: It's interesting that you want CONTEXT for Wright's comments, but criticize some of these blog comments without knowing context. You have no idea about my background or the service I have given to others in my life and I need not tell you. (You might be surprised.) My comments are not about hating anyone, they are about my concerns when people blame those who aren't responsible. No one wants to be blamed for something that is not their fault. Is that fair? Does that promote goodwill toward others? This blaming MUST stop. Until it does there will not be unity or peace. Until we stop labeling and considering things in Black or White, we will fail to unify. It can't be done, because then it is always them vs. us. If Reverend Wright truly wanted to do good, then he would use his power to unify Black and White, to explain that all people have the opportunity to succeed and that we are all in this together. Remember, when white radicals cheer on whiteness, they are called racist. I am sorry if this offends some of you, but this is how many of us perceive the hypocrisy.
I am in absolute AWE of Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. of Trinity United Church, and would be so PROUD to sit in his congregation anyday. There is no reason for Barack Obama, or anyone else in this world to question, be embarrassed about, or feel any shame on account of what this remarkable man of God says, who's words stand for truth and rightousness (not HATE) as his does. God BLESS him for his courage to say and do the right thing in these terrible times!
Bill, Thank you for helping me, a white male, lower middle class, understand exactly what rev. Wright has done for the Church he has dedicated to serve. Mr. Wright is clearly a man who speaks with a sense of purpose and direction, and speaks only under the leading of his God. I also found the full sermon and listened to it. I cannot dispute it. I believe Rev. Wright very faithfully is a servant and, although controvertial, is not afraid of speaking and preaching truth.
Thank you Mr. Moyers for this interview with Reverend Wright. I just hope the good ole boys and the victims being tortured by those out of context sound bytes take the opportunity to get clarity and understanding and view this broadcast.
I've had two messages deleted from this site because I'm telling people to go to Bill Moyer's archive's and see how he treated Pastor Hagge and his connection to John MCcain, whom has never stepped foot in Haggee's church, Moyer is an eleite commie so called reporter.
I so trusted the mainstream media that I almost did not watch this show, but I want to elect the Person that will correct the huge mistakes made by the current President. Fox news ABC news NBC news all jumped on the first report that sliced and diced Rev. Wright’s words and made the spin mister Rove look Like amateurs Whoever concocted sound bite in the bits and pieces are so convoluted with that same skill could make Hitler look like a saint. Bill Moyers cleaned up the twists done on Reverend Wright’s Sermon with a simple tactic he played them in context. . In context even Pat Robertson would be ill at ease to disagree with Rev. Wright’s statements.
STEVE and TRADAMERICA It is OBVIOUS that you are not looking to be fair in your comments so, in my opinion you are both "STUCK ON STUPID!!" in 2005 before it was popular, Senator Obama passed legislature to prevent fraudulent lending. His opponents tried to block his efforts but he won. He laid the framework for what is being done to today in the Federal Government. His legislature passed to help Veterans receive the best care this country can offer was passed last year. He put forth legislature that would prevent our soldiers from loosing their homes while away at war. WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT! You, this very day are benefitting from legislature passed by Senator Obama being elected to the US SENATE. Your tired rhetoric is getting so OLD!!!!
Ree the poet: No, children continue to fight with one another: He said, She said, as do immature adults. My feelings about NOT being responsible for this "problem" are real, and I stick to them. Obama alluded to them during his RACE speech. I could continue to complain about MY plight in life because of past injustices (and there have been many against the white race), but it is a ridiculous argument! Those who want to spend their lives complaining about the past rather than moving forward with whatever situation their life (and God) has given them, will live a life of despair and anger. It is our job to make the best of our own lives. And I still don't understand why no one criticizes Reverend Wright for accepting the 10 million dollar line of credit...remember that's 400 families to help with $25,000!
Reading through the posts I can see the trolls spamming the heck out of this blog and I'm reminded that it's Dirty Tricks season. Consider the fact that some of these trolls may be sitting in the West Wing having a great old time chumming the waters. Heck, one of them may even be Karl Rove. (Everybody wave, "Hi", to good old Karl.) At the very least there is a good chance that various trolls are high priced dirty tricksters just paying the bills. Real people just don't have the time to sit here and spam like this. (Heck, I'm going to post this message and then go fix lunch, maybe watch a movie after, then check back in a few more days and comment some more; and I bet you the same corporate trolls will still be here posting non-stop.) Think about this. Would the firestorm over Dr. Wright have even occurred if there was a free and independent press doing their job. Good old Karl and his high price buddies get away with all this because they know that Corporate Media will do as they are told and shout loud enough to drown out the few voices that...
To tradamerica I whole heartedly agree with your right to have an opinion, because it is just that, an opinion. Your opinion has no more worth or value than mine. Having said that, when did I mention your grandmother? Everything I spoke of was present day? My comments directed towards you were quite brief. Since January, I have already doubled your gifts to this station, but I will continue to do more for PBS. Public means 'not paid for by special interests'.It doesn't mean paid for by your dollars to stroke your ego. Any comment you read after I typed: TO US CITIZEN was meant for him/her. However, I will repeat my statement to you. There are many, many people who love their pastor, love their church and don't always agree with every statement made in every sermon by the pastor. My response to you is, rather than 'wallowing' in hatred for an issue that is not being discussed-LET IT GO! This is not a major topic in Reverend Wright's sermons. Try listening to them. Are you upset because Reverend Wright taught his congregation to shed the veil of self loathing and to understand that they have the power within...
And for all those here despairing at the racist pr negative comments I say this: everyday more people are choosing to come together. Don't focus on the hate. Focus on the love and respect that many here are showing.
Bill, I am glad and grateful for your interview of Dr. Wright. I have been bothered by the fact that the mainstream media have not pursued this story more thoroughtly and fairly. I have been hoping for something to be broadcast on this church and what its congregation is about, let alone a larger perspective on Dr. Wright. Thank you for both. Context is important for genuine understanding. You have exposed the narrowness and small-mindedness of mainstream media.
I learned too much from watching the interview and reading some (not all) of the comments. There are so many comments to read. But the one that stuck out for me... @ uscitizen Your comments are Classic. I will not repeat them because they leave such a bitter taste in my mouth. When there is a problem what should you do first? Own up to the problem. What do people like you do, make comments like the one you have made. Clearly there is a problem in America. Whether you yourself had something too (personally) to with it or not, it is a lingering problem and issue that needs to be addressed and dealt with once and for all! Hey uscitizen, guess what the problem is still there!!! My forefathers and your forefathers didn't resolve it. So guess what, WE HAVE TOO!!! But I don't expect any help from you. You are a child...I wasn't me...I didn't do it...Okay. Then go hide in a corner and let the adults handle it and keep your childish comments to yourself. Can you do that?
Very interesting interview. I love that the full context has been finally given for that infamous sound bite. His sermon is dead on. Sad that people don't understand or agree. There is nothing to fear from this man. He is a man of God. a man of peace. I found Rev. Wright refreshing, thought provoking, and a gifted speaker. I personally am glad that Senator Obama had the opportunity to listen to this man.
Hey tradeamerica You are asking Lady to respect your opinion, but you trying to push your opinion on other just because they don't agree with you. That is the main reason why we are having these issue today. You get mad over PBS and Bill M. over his show and the what he did it. Well HELLO, I give them credit because what we have been force to see and hear over the last few weeks was something that wasn't the truth, I'm sorry you didn't see the angry black man that you though you was going to see. We was told this man hate america, a racist and the BS that my man Jack Howard on here trying to spread. What you got was a very smart man. You have your opinion and other have there. Now if you don't like the ideal of have a black man as president, that cool but don't try to make force your opinion on other and try to make them feel like they are stupid or something. My man I'm throwing you a life line because I don't want you to drown or get lost in the wood and can't fine you...
Such is the state of ignorance in the U.S. that we need interviews to debunk soundbites. Sadly, I don't think many will watch this and rather than casting ballots on Iraq, & the economy, a majority will vote on empty lapels and a supposedly racist pastor.
One more thing before I head out into the forest to look for Morel mushrooms: Obama may not be muslim (no caps on purpose), and that's a good thing. But...ignorance as to Islam's covenant is NOT a good thing. PBS as well as media in general have been derelict in reporting the truth about Islam. Muhammads Q'ran promotes: pedophilia, murder, misogyny, torture, incest, and intolerance for any other religion. These are not allegations but facts supported by reading the Q'ranic surahs. For Wright to be a supporter of Farrakhan makes sense when one considers Wrights hate for America. By the way, not all brown skinned Americans are Wright or Farrakhan sycophants. PBS would do well to understand this dynamic.
Is Reverend Jeremiah Wright “Right”? For the past several weeks since the Reverend Jeremiah Wright sermons have been the primary focus of the political news stories, I’ve had to wonder why everyone is missing the “real story” here. Senator Barack Obama did what I felt was appropriate which was to address the issue head on in a speech. However, even though the speech is being held as one of the best speeches ever given in modern times, I still find that I’m frustrated that the real issue of race is still not being addressed. I grew up in the deep South after being an army brat and having attended integrated schools and having my religious beginnings in integrated churches. When my father retired from the military and decided to return to his “roots” I found myself literally in “another world” from what I had been accustomed to. I didn’t understand why there were no “white” people at the “black” Catholic Church that we attended and I never forget the answer that I got when I asked my grandmother that question. She told me that long ago they had attended the “white” Catholic Church and were seated in the back of...
Moyers, you just weren't up to the challenge. But judging from these blogs, you and the Reverend sure fooled alot of people. If a White candidate went to a church for even one month where the minister preached the kind of hatred and bigotry (not to mention outright lies, such as the totally unsupported HIV nonsense) which you, Bill, let him sit right there and get by with without even probing, that candidate would be dead in the water in a couple of days. Yet Obama, who is lying about what he heard and went along with in that church, is still the darling of the liberals. I imagine you think you have taken a reasoned and balanced approach to this issue. In fact, you functioned as an enabler for those who are happy to continue this kind of racial hypocrisy, which has done so much to hurt our country. Go back and read Shag's blogs. He's got it down.
I was so heartened by Moyers' interview... and so disheartened by the comments read here... It fills me with despair that people are still unable to hear the heart of a pastor, unable to understand that self-love, self-responsibility, pride in community is NOT equal to racism. I spent my entire adult life in a Black church, choosing to raise my biracial children in the context of strong Black community. I was embraced and loved within this community, and interestingly... it was the Black community and the Black church who challenged my very young white liberal guilt and self effacement. In that Black church, I was taught to love myself in a profound way, and I was accepted and embraced as I was gently taught that stereotypical white guilt never changed anything--but authenticity and commitment to ministry to hurting people had the potential to change everything. As Rev. Wright spoke, those years flooded back to me, and his heart as a pastor touched me. I am pained that others continue to dismiss and twist this man.
Sorry. Not buying either side on this one. Not even the one I'm supposed to as a liberal. And reading the ignorance in the comments doesn't give me much hope for the future. As much as I love the idea of a black POTUS, I don't see Obama addressing *any* of the substantive policy issues that I think are important. Of course I'd rather have Obama than McCain (btw, how could anyone vote for someone whose name rhymes with Hussein like McCain does :-) but I'm not going to vote for the lesser of two evils when there's a perfectly good alternative on the ballot in the person of Ralph Nader. Funny how when this actual hero gets mentioned the debate usually starts to sound a bit like Lord of the Flies. Sharpening a stick at both ends and all that. Here's what Matt Gonzalez says about Obama: http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2008/Obama-Craze-Gonzalez27feb08.htm I'm sorry to see that Obama's voting record is apparently nothing to be proud of.
Question, will fox news take a 30 sec. clip from this? >>> Answer: They already have. The "he says what he has to say as a politician" is their new mantra I'm sure Rush and Hannity will drive it in the ground tomorrow.
Wright is right! Bill Moyers write on...! Mahalo PBS!
TO RU: I am so glad that you asked the question about what is so bad about whether Senator Obama could be muslim. There are people running for office in this country, where THEY and THEIR surrogates aspire to turn AMERICA TOWARDS HER GREATER GOOD. Then there are people, where THEY and THEIR surrogates salivate after the POWER not the PRIDE that comes from serving this country in the highest office of this nation. Here's the problem, the American Voter is caught right in the middle. So, I am giving you some sites to check out to help clarify the situation. From about June -November 2006, the parties opposing Senator Obama sent out over 5 million flyers across this nation falsely accusing him of being muslim. These flyers went predominately to senior citizens, along with an absentee ballot and the opposing party's name already circled. (I know because my father and my grandparents on both sides of the family got them) So that by January 2007, the false rumor had become widely circulated. The truth is that we have 2 Senators who were elected and are now serving in Washington who are muslim and were sworn in on the Koran...
Dear Bill Moyers: Thanks again for providing an opportunity for people to see the truth about Rev. Wright. I think that this piece served its objective of making available to the public a more complete picture of a man that has been virtually made enemy of the state by those with political motivations. As can be expected, I have also notice the usual influx of Internet trolls who keep posting (spewing) the same empty-headed-nonsense over and over again in hopes of drowning out the support, importance and impact this information has to the public. Another poster asked: "what are they afraid of?" I would suggest that the fear and hate-mongers who are a small but very active and coordinated group are afraid that people will see this information and realize once again how it was so easy for them to be manipulated by the propaganda that passes for news. Success for these people, is based solely on people accepting their "versions" of events and to hell with any and all information that could cause one to come to a different conclusion. But ultimately their purpose is to short-circuit the thought process, because when people are not thinking then they are...
Great Show. Question, will fox news take a 30 sec. clip from this? Mr. wright is a good man. The media have too much power. They can show you what ever they want, and some folks will believe it. Sad. People like Hannity have so much hate in them.
Excellent interview, Mr Moyers; thanks to you and the Rev. Wright for seeking and speaking the truth. It's reassuring to know that the Rev. Wright preached to Senator Obama; how sad for our country that Mr. Bush was never guided by someone so wise and so right.
Oh the unbounded joy with which the good Reverend crowed "America's chickens have come home to roost"! Did you not see him? Oh how he danced, oh how he pranced, oh how he sang and revelled in his moment. Did you not see him? Finally someone had hurt America, as he had so long preached that someone would. Finally someone had proven the great Reverend right, that his God, his really angry black God, would smite this wicked country. White America would suffer as the black man has suffered! Now if we will just elect his protege, how this country will be made to pay! If you like reparations, you'll love Obama.
Dear Lady, I must respond as you have conveniently lumped me in with those you despise. I am neither right or left winger, rather I am of the eagles' wing, Independent and not bound by a partisan covenant. My wife and I contributed over $22,000 to PBS. Money wasted IMO. It will not get another dime until the PBS puts the "public" back into public broadcasting. For balance sake I will admit to taking issue with people like you, who stumble over yourself to genuflect at Wrights altar. And admittedly I have an ax to grind in regards to white guilt and reparations for black Americans, and the complete disregard for people like my grandmother. Again, I deem Moyers' interview a sham, a travesty, and a deceitful deal cut in order to scoop competitors. I hope you would support my right to have an opinion, even if you disagree with it.
Great interview. I believe Dr Wright. After listening to the full context of his speech. I understand that politician will do anything to prevent the leader of the primaries from this historical event from succeeding, at the cost of the democratic party.
to tradamerica & uscitizen I am a lifelong contributor to PBS and whatever your check was let me know and I promise you that I will DOUBLE IT. Since this interview with Bill Moyers, I have contacted 150 of my fellow PBS donors and we are all contributing. So, keep your little check...We don't need it. US CITIZEN, You've gotta let go of the HATE! If you really take a look at the tapes,even the ones that FOX NEWS "doctored" up, you will notice that just behind Reverend Wright,look closely, while he was preaching, when he made the infamous 'GD America' that was TAKEN WAY OUT OF CONTEXT, you can clearly see a pew member's face expressing a kind of disbelief. and many members in the pews were not applauding. So,your argument against Senator Obama fails. You're being willfully ignorant of the fact that people can love a pastor, love a church and not agree with everything the pastor says in every sermon. While you are being so critical of Senator Obama, ask yourself these questions: 1) In the past 20 years of your life, how many people did you help who needed money to get milk and diapers for...
I would really like to get an understanding of religion in politics. I know Sen. Obama is a Christian, but many still make an issue of him being a muslim! I am at a loss to understand even if that were true, why is that such a big issue – is there something in the Constitution that says that only Christians should be allowed to be presidents. I am not a Christian or a Muslim, but what about those young people born into Buddhist, Zorastrian, Atheist, Hindu, Muslim families who practice valid religions or spiritual paths – Does that make them unpresidential material. Are we a free democracy or what? A lot of Christians are also criminals – does that make them electable over good honest non-Christian citizens of the US? I am over 60 and not looking to run for any office – but I worry about the freedom of this great country of ours.
Some of the right-wingers posting on this blog are sooo clever! :) They have nothing but personal attacks against Reverend Wright, Bill Moyers and Obama. Do they really think anyone believes their pathetic arguments such as blaming the financial troubles of PBS on Bill Moyers. It's a clear sign that they know they have lost the debate. They can't stand up and debate the real issues so they retreat into their racist tirades and personal attacks. Daniel Portland, OR
So it starts... Name calling; flawed mitigations; partisan agendas pulled from ready quivers like so many arrows. Moyers did not "interview" Wright. Moyers cut a deal to scoop media opponents. The deceitful part of the deal to get Wright was a concession to allow him unfettered access to PBS' dwindling viewer base. Those inside the PBS hegemony know this to be true. D.Richards: My African grandfather, as well as my Peigan grandmother did not raise me to be a victim. My thoughts on this matter are steeped in a pursuit of truth. And if the results step on my toes, and the toes of others so be it. Of course our government is flawed too. But Wright's not so concealed Jihad for reparations doesn't consider that Chicago was a First Nations holding and reparations will start with giving back the land to it's original owners. Oh, but that would complicate your agenda, wouldn't it?
I'm very pleased that this was done, I give you all the repect that is due to you Bill. The problem that we have in this country is racism and it comes from lack of education. People should study your history and understand why so many blacks feel the way they do. If you look at it, this country is the reason why blacks feel this way and it sad that the truth hurt. You have some whites that don't have a clue about blacks and the way they have fought the fight to be free in this country. It not about the programs that the goverment had handed out to cover the wrong doing that this country has done. But what still and always be is that you have people that smile n your face but at the sametime will stab you in the back. I see the tide is turning back in the days blacks in this country was afraid to stand up. Well hello those days are over and now you have a few slow minded whites that scared of a black man. But the sadder part is that Sen.Obama is half white and those same slow...
One important thing to keep in mind is that Obama is not Wright. Just as McCain is not Hagee. The GOP will do all it can, with the help of the corporate media to keep the focus on the Wright sound-bites with the implicit assumption that Obama = Wright. But, the right-wingers can't have it both ways; they can't say that Obama = Wright, and then deny that McCain = Hagee. Remember that McCain actively sought Hagees endorsement, then stood on stage and said how proud he was to have it. Hagee; a nut-case who calls the Catholic Church the "great whore" and a "cult system". Hagee a preacher who has his church focused on end-times prophecy. Wright has every right to say the things he says. Just as Hagee has every right to say the things he says. I agree with Wright, but if you don't agree with him then don't listen. In the end we will need to elect a President in November. We need to see through these right-wing manufactured "controversies", so that we can debate the real issues that our nation is facing; war in Iraq, the economy, healthcare, etc, etc... Thanks Bill and Reverend Wright...
My eyes have been opened...my ears are listening....Rev Wright is on to something...My research has uncovered "Secret US Biological Weapons"....Hmm...Aids, where did it come from?....that Monkey explanation is fishy...and it is a fact that DNA protein in the virus is "similar" to the African DNA....hmmm....maybe that's why Blacks w/ Aids live on and whites die within 5 yrs....LOL....if it was created to kill off people of color, I guess it backfired...LMAO
Bill Moyers' carte blanc (from PBS) to forgo a legitimate pursuit of the truth in his so-called interview with Wright, is at the heart of PBS' financial problems. American's are more savvy than PBS gives us credit for. Look at the meteoric rise in FOX News ratings. Liberals rant and hate that fact, but as an Independent I for one find hope in FOX's scathing scrutiny of ALL sides of a debate. Moyers' has relegated his legacy to that of a bitter old (and irrelevant) socialist.
Let me first say that I was deeply encouraged by this interview and the opportunity Rev. Wright had to say his piece and speak his mind. However, it never fails me to be irritated and significantly disappointed in the deeply biased, un-objective, mis-educated and ignorant, extreme comments that are made by unreasonable people. I shall continue to have hope, but my goodness!! I can honestly say that I have a very real appreciation for different views and perspectives but when you cross the threshold of being unreasonable, down-right ignorant and extreme - that's when there are problems...precisely the type of problems that limit, restrict and even block real conversation and open communication between the speaker and the active listener, which only then can facilitate a level of understanding that can allow forward movement and progress. Like, how idiotic were the comments made by "tradeamerica" at 11:24am today?!? Who gives a darn about your money and your check! That's such an empty threat (in my opinion) relative to this situation because it shows just how bogus some people can be when everything doesn't go THEIR way or in a way that 100% pleasing to you. Grow up! I understand that the...
Thank you ever so much for broadcasting the interview with the Reverend Jeremiah Wright. Fatigued of the controversy, sick of the video loops and scared to death this would sink the Obama campaign, I hesitated to watch. Now I feel strongly that I too have been a victim of the media. Even the bites in advance of the show were a bit of more of the same. It is just too difficult to feature such a complex figure in the short frames allowed by television. I was blown away by Jeremiah Wright's intellect, compassion and wisdom. Were it only possible to convey this to an average person without theological leanings! I can't say how much I appreciate and respect your doing this interview at this point in time. It is for David Axlerod and Barack Obama to use it to advantage rather than letting the pundits tell the world how they feel about it.
Thank you for this interview!! As we know the truth...hurts. It's time, for my children and others to understand why we are the way we are. When there are differences, some view them as deficiencies. Try to examine yourself and ask yourself what kind of world we are leaving our children to inherit. My grandparents see the youth today as unappreicative of their struggle. I do not want my children to believe it was all in vein. There are principalities working hard to confuse and divine the masses. We must stay strong and prevent the global destruction, before it's too late.
Thank you Bill Moyers for this wonderful interview! You are the last real broadcast journalist we have. Your work is truly inspiring. Matt San Francisco, CA
I feel Moyers' interview was helpful to me in understanding Rev Wrights "chickens come home to roost" statement. This comment, however, has in other words been asserted by the more liberal in our media on a regular basis after 9/11. What Moyers failed to do is ask Rev Wright about his HIV and drugs being started by whites to destroy blacks comments. Now why would that be? It is not just because Moyers is unable to to interview in a balanced manner, or that he is afraid to ask the tough questions. Rather Moyers failed to ask about these comments because it would fail to support the idea that a liberal white man or liberals in general might question a black man thereby opening them to the racist criticism. It is not your job to protect the white liberal agenda Bill but apparently it is in your mind.
The media owe both Wright and Obama apologies...great interview...Stephanie
It's not that far from reality. http://www.infoplease.com/spot/bhmtuskegee1.html
JLH you brought this out of me, you should not be disheartened, you should accept the reality of this campaign and why Rev. Wright is an undue focus of it; America, particularly White Americans don't want to take responsibility for any role in a systematic and government sponsored wrong (slavery and jim crow both were legal) and whenever someone or anything remains them of its perpetual legacy-racism, they lost the ability of logical reasoning and condemn them. For years, hundreds of years, African-America's (if it comforts you - other's too) have challenged America to live up to its creed; this traditional is being carried on by Sen. Obama's campaign (sight his speech on race). Very interesting though, when voters go to the polls without being pressured by public protest (Sharpton, Jackson, etc.), they will have to either ignore or confront their own "personal" prejudices when they choose "not" to vote for a woman or a Blackman – unfortunately this is pathetically American. Who will you blame this time? America you have the choice! Finally, Sen. Obama should not have to be perfect to be Commander and Chief, no President before him has been. He should not be placed under a...
Moyer's tepid interview of Wright is another deceitful chapter in his serial efforts to corrupt a fair and balanced account of current events. I was a loyal and loving Moyers fan for many years - backed it up with time and treasure for PBS. No more. Moyer's is now the main reason I will not cut another check for PBS. For the record: I am a multi-ethnic American; a former registered Democrat (now Independent), and a US Army veteran. I also have attended many "black" churches and understand the deep mistrust that the black community still harbors for the US government. Having said that, Wright's theology reveals a pathological hate for his own light color. He is so guilty for his own white blood, that he overcompensates in an effort to "be a brother." It ain't workin' for me, and his efforts at community help in Chicago obviously ain't workin' there either. When PBS decides to cover ALL sides of an issue, I'll cut a check. How about an interview with O'Reilly? Anyone at PBS got the guts to go face to face with one of the few people who dares to hold Wright accountable for his pattern bigotry?
Reverend Wright is in the news because Barak Obama sat in a church where the preacher made anti-American and anti-White (or as some might call them, racist) statements. This is a fact. It is also a fact that Obama orignially stated that he never knew of such comments. He later changed his statements to admit that he did know about them, but had never personally heard them. What is the truth here? It's the "I do not recall..." defense. Wright isn't running for President. Who even cares about him? What a waste of time! Before the outcry was "Let's talk issues--now the outcry is Cannonize Moyers, Wright and Obama!" The only reason there is racism in the country today is that we ARE still talking about it. Forget it. Get a life! Look around. Slavery is over. Most of us are not even related to anyone who owned a slave! This is why WE are so upset about this conversation. We have Affirmative Action. Get over it! We are all just trying to live a life and raise a family. What ever happened to the simple American dream of a house, yard, one car, a dog, and a child or...
We are talking and asking the hard questions about institutionalized racism, regardless to whether it's Black versus White or other racial divides in this country. We as a Nation are evaluating our history with others - we are our neighbors keeper - and having to face some ugly truths about how we have treated our neighbor. This is a pivotal time in history both on all divides: race, religion and politics. And we have to evaluate them in order to move forward in this 21st century. This is GOOD. We are talking and seeking and reevaluating and getting honest. Yes, there is conflict now, but at least we're wrestling with the past and with our current reality so that we can make progress in the future. This is GOOD. And I predict that just as Martin Luther King is lauded by this Nation 40 years later, this period in history will be lauded as well. Thank God for His grace and His Love that looks beyond our faults and sees our need.
Memo to the GOP, the Clinton Campaign, or anyone else who wants to make an issue of Rev. Jeremiah Wright: DON'T DO IT! You're going to have to stick with Senator Obama because Rev. Wright is WAAAAAAAAAAAY out of your league!
Thank you, Mr. Moyers for your dispassionate, intelligent interview with Rev. Wright. I kept trying to understand why Mr. Obama would be influenced by someone who has been portrayed by the MSM as incendiary, racist and otherwise despicable. Was that what Rev. Wright was? Well, no. The interview points out his intelligence, empathy and determination to make a positive difference in the lives of the people he can reach. I appreciate you putting Rev. Wright's comments in context--both in terms of the sermons themselves and his thoughts about the message he was giving to his congregation. This is journalism at its best. You are to be commended.
After watching Mr. Wright's interview, I thought to myself - why are they trying to make a demon out of this extraordinary, intelligent man? It's time to wake up and see beyond your own views, beyond what others are trying to make you believe ... Thank you Mr. Moyers for the wonderful interview.
Great interview. How do I buy the DVD?
Great interview.
Love you Moyers. I am black liberal, but am sick of the "victim's" rage that has my people entrapped. Those weren't "selected soundbites" that did him in, it's the old-style "blame the whiteman" theolgoy that keeps so many of us from progressing. I see in everyday in so many people and we can't move beyond it and it's destructive. I am no fan of Wright, Sharpton, Jackson or any of the "ministers" of that ilk. I am with Coscy, let's find some solutions and move forward.
I posted yesterday but reading thru subsequent posts wanted to make a couple of additional comments. Many folks here have expressed astonishment and delight at Bill Moyers' caliber of journalism as compared to main stream (corporate) media. I seldom bother with MSM and get my news and commentary mainly from PBS and NPR, and also independent (non-corporate outlets) like Democracy Now! on the Pacifica network. Amy Goodman is a fantastic, gutsy journalist who has a wide range of guests, including Bill Moyers himself back when he was standing up to the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and their shenanigans in trying to stifle him. These outlets are far more in-depth and broad in their reportage and commentary. Also, I listen to C-SPAN which is highly informative and again broader in terms of information and view points. I just suggest this for those who grow weary of MSM. I would also like to comment as one reads thru these blogs it is glaring how so many who oppose Rev. Wright and/or Obama accuse those of us not in their camp, specifically liberals, of being "haters" while THEIR blogs are the ones filled with hate speech. They re-post the same entries, ad nauseum...
Wonderful, wonderful interview. It brought tears to my eyes. I feel a great amount of gratitude and hope knowing that there are courageous people like Rev. Wright in the world. We need more like him to help heal the wounds. Thank you, Bill Moyers, for providing the oportunity for Rev. Wright to speak and for us to hear.
Mr. Moyers, First off, I am a big fan, and am thrilled with the fact you came back to the best journalism in the bushiness, I am black and a liberal. I am born and raised in L.A., and as a child spent alot of time reading about and watching on tv the best and the worst of the civil rights struggle. That said, I am so disheartened that with so much access that we've been given,there are so many of my people who suffer from the "victim's mentality," and use it for a reason not to succeed. I know people like you mean well, but with that Wright interview you are assisting in the stagnation of a people (follow what Cosby is saying these days.), and even then, I am sure there are black people will find fault with your interview-maybe you're out to get him in some other way. There may have been a time when his type sermons were in empowering; not now. Black issues: 37% in prison, AIDS affecting black women faster than anyone else, murder amongst black young men happening at an alarming rate,(Chicago is in an epidemic) crack addiction, severe health issues. We've got...
Wow, Bill. Riveting, hard hitting questions, and the follow-ups were impressive too. Just the type of fair and balanced interview we would expect from an objective in-the-tank-for-Obama "journalist" like you (snicker, snicker). Moyers: So Rev, what kind of music do you like? Wright: jazz Moyers: tell us Reverend, does your church believe in black theology? Wright: No. Moyers: OK, that settles that. Moving right along. Bill Moyers defending the RELIGIOUS wright! What a hoot. Be careful PBS, Moyers is the type of in-the-Obama-tank journalist we see on MSNBC. They may hire him away. Opps, he probably wouldn't leave though given the millions he has made off the PBS taxpayer-funded public dole.
Rev Wright is the most Christ like person I have seen or heard of it the US. Obama must regret his statements and ask forgiveness to the God of his understanding. Truth is all!
I must say that this interview and the subsequent posts have left me utterly disheartened about America's future. I am a near 40 African American female, well-educated, single mother. I guess that puts me in a lot of demographic boxes. I am disheartened because it appears that America is incapable of having a serious discussion about any substantive issue. Everyone views issues, both great and small, from their own biases and finds it difficult to comprehend what others are saying. Often, we don't want to hear anything that is in contradiction to the way we see the world. I must admit that I suffer from the same limits and struggle to understand those that think differently than me. That does not mean that I should completely close my ears to what they are saying. I just watched the entire interview online. I attend a black church, the African Methodist Episcopal church and have attended my whole life. Does that mean that I hate white people. No it means my church was formed by slaves and former slaves who were not allowed the opportunity to worship fully in the Methodist church. I would never turn my back or forget that history...
I am SOOOO grateful for all the racist and hateful comments on this blog. It reminds us that racism does, in fact, still exist in this country and that said racists are completely blinded by hate. My heart truly goes out to them. I can't imagine what it must be like to have their outlook on life. Even more encouraging is the fact that the vast majority of the comments are positive, intelligent and thoughful. I renews my faith that we might some day rid ourselves of race hate in this country. God Bless America!
Correction: All Power to the Peeps!
thank you Mr. Moyers, we desparately need more quality independent journalism; it will save the world. Can you do a research report on who is funding the exposeobama website? Would be interesting to know who is propagating this gross misinformation.
If only truth was a bucket and ignorance water, then maybe the vast ignorance of America's people could be contained and separated from the on-going contaminates of hatred! "Racism is as American as apple-pie!" For the life of me, I don't understand why Senator Obama puts himself and his beautiful family through this agony. Remember the slogan "these colors don't run?"; the point furthered, they hardly change either." Aluta Continua (the struggle continues) for those fair loving people-full humans, to fight this tenet of beast name racism. All People to the Peeps!
Thank you for a thoughtful in-depth discussion with Rev. Wright. Other than the main media coverage of his sermons, I have not seen any serious coverage of this issue, other than NPR's discussion of the church role in black communities. His response to Obama trying to distance himself was to the point - a politician, while Rev. Wright is a pastor.
I previously had negative thoughts about Rev. Wright that were shaped by sound bites. This interview allowed me to see Rev. Wright as one in the tradition of the Old Testament prophets exhorting followers to go out and right the wrongs of the world.
Thank You so much Mr Moyers for one of the best interviews and bringing to light the WHOLE TRUTH about the sermon. Nation, THIS IS THE MOMENT-OF-TRUTH ! As usual, the CORRUPT CORPORATE MSM stands indicted and EXPOSED for spinning the TRUTH (by showing only 'snippets' ) in order to propagate their RACIST AGENDA. I who am a catholic, is considering switching to Rev Wright's church and sending a donation right away! (At least I know it won't be used toward PAYING OFF the victims of sexual abuse by priests!) This man is being crucified by the MSM, ONLY BECAUSE one of his church members may very well become the Dem Party NOMINEE and quite possibly our next P-R-E-S-I-D-E-N-T !!! (you see, for the CORPORATE MEDIA and THE RACISTS, THAT is an "INCONVENIENT-TRUTH" !) That reminds me, I better go read PSALM #137
Thank you for making things clear to who do not think things through and clearly and only look out for the best interest and not sacraficing themselves to help others to better the whole. Selfishness is a silent killer. Great interview i will add you to my watch list.
Mr. Moyers' hypocracy is absolutely amazing. Given the way he has misused snippets of other peoples comments to facilitate his hatchet jobs in the past, his concern for "context" here would be laughable, if it weren't so sad. Shame on you Mr. Moyers...
I have been watching the mainstream media for so long I had forgotten what real journalism was like. Thank you Bill Moyers for showing America and the World the role of a "GOOD" journalist. Not to badger your guess or try to embarrass but to ask good sound relevant questions and listen to the answer. Thank you again Mr. Moyers.
Some see the truth; some don't. What surprised me is not that Rev. Wright does (I fairly knew that already) but rather so many do besides him. And now, thanks to PBS, still others may get a chance to as well. Thank you for doing the full monty reporting that should have been done in the first place.
Obama did the right thing by NOT seperating himself from this man. It shows good character on the part of Obama - to do what is right over political pressures that derive from the ignorami of people like Sean Hannity, whose faithful followers seek no further then the spoon-feed-2-sentenced slogans (composed of one slyable words) for information to base their opinions and actions on. Ann
Thank you to Bill Moyers for your excellent interview. It proved to me that Jeremiah Wright has more intelligence and compassion than any one of us currently writing our comments. It seems that America has been hijacked by a right-wing, Nazi-like, hate-filled few. Our hope is that, with the coming election, the true majority will gain control of our US government.
Reverend Wright is what we call in biblical terms, a prophet. Prophets are not people who forecast the future; they are the big mouth shouting against the evil of the present. What is the fate of the prophet? The best example is the fate done to John the Baptist; the king ordered his head to be cut off. Symbolically, this is what the representants of the king, the media, did to reverend Wright.
In reading many of these posts it is clear that indeed we have not progressed in 40 years. The ignorance, the hatred, the racists in the US are alive and well. It is clear there are many educated people who are closed minded and disinclined to even give the matter some thought before typing their knee jerk reactions pounding away on their keyboards their impure thoughts. Those that defend their righteous indignation are afraid and in fear of a Pastor's words without even trying to understand what is really being said. You are not listening. Continue sending your venomous words, continue to spread your hateful thoughts, continue in your attempt to justify your abhorrent behavior. You will only have yourself to blame when you meet your maker. God, help your soul. I pray God has more compassion for you then you have shown for your brothers and sisters.
The interview with Rev. Wright was one of the best pieces of journalism in this entire campaign. Bill Moyers is the only TV commentator who makes any sense whatsoever. JFO
Thank you Mr. Moyers. This was a revealing interview with Mr. Wright. Since 9/11 so many of us are living in fear and hate. The media is no different. However this time those who try to brainwash some Americans have backfired as their actions allowed many of us to get to know a very good person. As a Canadian I am surprised to know that some in the American media are getting so out of hand. They need to stick to reporting the news as facts and with honesty. Instead they seem to think that this is where they should feed their hate and fear. If they were to spread love, kindness and compasiion what a wonderful world this would be. It is sad when the media lies and gouvernment lies.
If you think Bill Moyers is an unbiased reporter with no agenda , look at last month's story he did on Pastor John Hagge,Bill Moyers is shameless,and pathetic, and he takes our money to fund his liberal poison...John MCcain has never been to Hagge's church,
After reading countless entries on this blog I have to wonder if my country will ever come together there is so much hate. Even if you disagree with someone you should be able to have a honest discussion. When I see all the nasty and hateful things said about Sen. Obama I ask why my goodness are some people this afraid of possible change in this country? It is just so sad and I pray for a healing. There is something that Rev Wright said that I believe and that is God can make any situation that was ment for bad into good.
How can so many people watch an interview and STILL get the facts twisted. It was NOT Rev. Wright who authored the statement about "chickens coming home to roost". He was REPEATING what an American ambassador (white) said on FOX NEWS to make a point! Some of you idiots STILL attribute this statement to him! Actually, he was saying that was NOT the way to think! Some of you are either too stupid or too racist to even hear what's being said! Unlike you jerks, I'm posting my e-address, I'd welcome a conversation with ANY of you who feel like Rev. Wright's sermons were NOT taken out of context. Even Bill Moyer was doing his best not to really hear what Wright was saying. That wide eyed look of innocence he gave as he said,"you didn't make your point too clear" when speaking about the sound bites, was about as sorry a piece of journalism as I've ever seen! Bill Moyer, JERK!
What a beautiful interview. Thank you Bill Moyers for letting us hear the heart and soul of this man. He radiates love and compassion, not hatred. He is a preacher in the prophetic tradition. Prophets are never very much liked because they do say hard things. They challenge conventional wisdom and try to wrest us out of our comfort zone so that we can be better human beings. This interview lifts up and builds up and inspires hope, generosity, creativity and a desire to do better towards one's fellow human beings. It provides a stark contrast to the corporate owned mainstream media that tears down, inspires fear, and divides. Thank god there are a few good journalists left. When the U.S. lies in ruins one day, the mainstream media need to do some soul searching. Those who buy their garbage will also be complicit in the destruction of the 'city on the hill' that America, whose ideals of freedom and democracy inspire the world.
The sound bites were taken out of context. Thank you for putting them back in context so that we could hear the full hateful rantings of a complete lunatic. It is quite clear that Mr. Wright was sympathizing with the terrorists when he said "God damn America." Moyers asks why America doesn't want the full monty of both good and bad American history. Well Mr. Moyers, you have it bass ackwards. Most of us understand the good and the bad but it is people like your friend Mr. Wright who would rather harp on just the negative and use that to justify condemning America, spreading baseless conspiracy theories about how the government spread HIV and cocaine to control and kill black people, telling lies about how Louis Farrakhan stopped being an antisemite 20 years ago and blaming all white people in general for everything that's wrong with the world. The funny thing is that people like you, Mr. wright and Mr. Obama don't even know how far out of touch you are with America. But your a slow learner like most people of the far-left. Al Sharpton is on the biggest losing streak of his life (Tawana Brawley,Duke lacrosse case...
We bombed Hiroshima.. We bombed Nagazaki.. And we didn't even bat an eye... Governments LIE!!! So does Jeremiah Wright for he left out the part where Japan bombed us first and this was the only way to end the war. Manipulators burn in hell my friend. Get things right with God and stop taking advantage of people who don't know anymore than what you tell them. Stop the inner city manipulation. Stop being a race baiter. Build your 10 mil home someplace else. You live in abundance while you took some fools last dollar?? You will burn in hell as will your protege.
This country is run by RICH WHITE PEOPLE. Cuba is run by RICH HISPANIC PEOPLE!! What's your point? Other than breeding hate and manipulating the inner city minds... what is your cause? You just bought land in a rich white neighbhorhood. Stop manipulating the inner city people and tell otis moss to do the same. Instead of breeding hate, tell your people to go and get a job. The most demoralizing useless existence one could live is to be given everything while working for and achieving nothing. Handouts beget low self worth. You preach the government should hand out everything to everyone, yet, you work hard and are moving into a rich white neighbhorhood on your manipulated customers dime!!! Shame on you Jeremiah Wright and Barack Hussein Obama. SHAME ON BOTH OF YOU! Chicago is in shambles.. Do you care? If so, go take care of that failure you created before you commit a lot more empty promises to a whole ne victim. SHAME ON ALL OF YOU!!
Thank you for using the media to get to the truth! I was skeptical when I heard you were interview Rev. Wright, as I was afraid it would be used to bash Barack. Fortunately we were wrong! His comment that the "sound byte" was used to communicate exactly what it is communicating (i.e. fear), is very perceptive. We left the interview with a deep respect for his ideas and his actions. Thank you! Rita and Terry Flynn
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Great Job Bill . It will now be difficult for those who , at least pretend to be journalist, to continue to distort who Rev. Wright really is . This is a good man who does good works . Got that Lou Dobbs ?
Bill Moyers, Thank you,& PBS for doing such a brilliant piece of journalism, with the Rev. Wright. Your interview will certainlty go down in the history books, for future generations to read & learn from, Robert H.
OBAMA’S CIRCLE OF FRIENDS AND SUPPORT What do each of the following individuals and organizations have in common? William Ayers (Weatherman Underground bomber, unrepentant domestic terrorist) Frank Davis (Member Communist Party USA, Early mentor to Obama) Jeremiah Wright (Black Liberation militant, racist, and Pastor) Tony Rezko (Corrupt Financier, ties to Terror Financing) Louis Farrakhan (Nation of Islam Leader, racist, anti-American) RailaOrdinga (Fundamental Islamic Candidate, Kenya, Obama’s Cousin) Daniel Ortega (Marxist Sandinista Leader. Nicarauga) Raul Castro (Hard-line Communist Leader, Cuba) Communist Party Illinois (US Communist Political Party) Socialist Party USA (Marxist Socialist Political Party The New Black Panther Party (Black Militant Organization, anti-American and racist) Hamas Terrorist Organization (Islamic Terrorist Organisation) They all hate America, they all want to destroy America as we have traditionally known it, they all want the United States to retreat in the war, and they all want to make over the United States into a marxist/socialist/collective nation that is much more disposed toward and condusive to their own ideological goals.
Mr Moyers, thank you for the opportunity to get to know this brilliant, insightful man. How sad and telling that the sound bite repeated by the mainstream media to highlight this upcoming interview, was so misleading; "Barack Obama speaks as a politician. I speak as a pastor..." Is that all they could extrapolate (out of context, of course) from 50 minutes of remarkable, uplifting dialogue? My regard for Barack Obama has soared, knowing now that Reverend Wright is the calibre of person who inspired him. I hope to see Reverend Wright on the campaign trail and also delivering the keynote speech at the inauguration!
People have been making TOTALLY WRONG criticisms of Trinity Church calling it racist. How incredibly crazy! Trinity has white and Hispanic members. People outside Chicago do not understand the role of EVERY ethnic church. And actually ethic churches were pretty much the same in the eastern part of the country too. I was raised in an ethnic church in Pa. Chicago's Polish Catholic churches promote "Polish culture" and values. They play Polish music, eat Polish food, wear clothes made in Poland, arrange trips to Poland, help arriving Polish people get jobs, and have a Polish Day parade. And, many events have the US flag, the flag of Poland and the flag of the City of Chicago. All of this and more promotes a connection to the home country. It's mixing US and Polish culture and values. The Italian Catholic churches in Chicago promote "Italian culture" and values. They play Italian music, eat Italian food, wear clothes made in Italy, arrange trips to Italy, help arriving Italian people get jobs, etc. .... the same as the Polish Churches. The Mexican Catholic churches promote the "Mexican culture" and values. They play Mexican music, eat Mexican food,……. the same as the Polish, Italian...
CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN.. I became a legislator in Chicago and embraced Jeremiah Wright who also works on "inner city causes." Since then, the crime and violence in Chicago has increased ten fold. So, what I am asking all Americans to do is look at what I have done in Chicago and times it by a thousand to equal what I will do for America. If you don't watch the news today, you will not see that Chicago is in total turmoil, thus, you will be a lot more inclined to buy into my Change bull shiiit. Please don't watch any news for the next month or so and donate whatever you can to my campaign. Don't forget, I voted against retaliation towards the people who embrace islam and murdered 3,000 of our own people in our own country. I was against this all along. Heck, I went so far as to grant muslim murderers 75k in grants as the director of the Woods Fund. If you want real Change and Change you can believe in... Vote for the guy who want's to Change the whole face of this country and planet. We will never be hated by other...
Mr Moyers, thank you for the opportunity to get to know this brilliant, insightful man. How sad and telling that the sound bite repeated by the mainstream media to highlight this upcoming interview, was so misleading; "Barack Obama speaks as a politician. I speak as a pastor..." Is that all they could extrapolate (out of context, of course) from 50 minutes of remarkable, uplifting dialogue? My regard for Barack Obama has soared, knowing now that Reverend Wright is the calibre of person who inspired him. I hope to see Reverend Wright on the campaign trail and also delivering the keynote speech at the inauguration!
thanks for this interview--it was balanced and fair. the fullest picture of the reverend that i've seen in any media. thanks again.
Mr Moyers, thank you for the opportunity to get to know this brilliant, insightful man. How sad and telling that the sound bite repeated by the mainstream media to highlight this upcoming interview, was so misleading; "Barack Obama speaks as a politician. I speak as a pastor..." Is that all they could extrapolate (out of context, of course) from 50 minutes of remarkable, uplifting dialogue? My regard for Barack Obama has soared, knowing now that Reverend Wright is the calibre of person who inspired him. I hope to see Reverend Wright on the campaign trail and also delivering the keynote speech at the inauguration!
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In interesting peace of video. youtube.com/watch?v=v8XGy4G8L5M
Bill once again you brought us an intelligent and enlightening interview with Reverend Wright. It was a shame it was so short. This is a man worth talking to. What a wonderful and intelligent man. Being one of the many who knew the sound bites where just what Reverend Wright said..and I saw them as more of a game the press and ignorant play to manipulate people into hate as usual. I was fascinated by the whole sermon. I am a 50 something not religious white woman and the sermon after 911 made me cry. It was so good to hear the truth and to have it related to the bible for people to understand we are accountable for our actions. The people who do not understand this do not want to face the truth of the American history and the recent actions as well. The CIA has been busy for years supporting dictators so american business does not suffer. Because of the Iraq war the Cia is so busy that Central and South America have been able to elect leaders that are for the people. FINALLY. This country is built on slavery and it continues here and in other...
This is one of the most extraordinary interviews in Moyers' long resume of such items. Wright's erudition and compassion overwhelm and video the purveyors of the out-of-context sound bites making the rounds. This is journalism at its finest.
It's interesting to see how the haters project their hate onto other people. Trolls, God loves you. Really.
His greatness, "jeremiah wright" has been helping inner city youth along with the honorable lous farrakhan. barrack hussein obama has been a legislator in Chicago for 2 plus years and he and his family are best friends with jeremiah wright. With all their good deeds combined, how is that Chicago is living in riot conditions today. Why is that none of them believe in 3 strikes your out? The cops are all being handed machine guns to deal with the gang violence today.. Literally today. It's in the news today!! We can only conclude that wright, farrakhan and the obama's are doing a great job!!! But wait, how do a bunch of guys who preach hate and despise punishment ever make a dent in crime? If anything, hate mongers make things worse and this is evident by Chicago's conditions today. TODAY Chicago is worse than ever and every figure head including the front runner of the presidency embraces and endorses hate while criticizing punishment. Obama, you have a great resume man... Next tell us you will do for America what you have done for Chicago.
His greatness, "jeremiah wright" has been helping inner city youth along with the honorable lous farrakhan. barrack hussein obama has been a legislator in Chicago for 2 plus years and he and his family are best friends with jeremiah wright. With all their good deeds combined, how is that Chicago is living in riot conditions today. Why is that none of them believe in 3 strikes your out? The cops are all being handed machine guns to deal with the gang violence today.. Literally today. It's in the news today!! We can only conclude that wright, farrakhan and the obama's are doing a great job!!! But wait, how do a bunch of guys who preach hate and despise punishment ever make a dent in crime? If anything, hate mongers make things worse and this is evident by Chicago's conditions today. TODAY Chicago is worse than ever and every figure head including the front runner of the presidency embraces and endorses hate while criticizing punishment. Obama, you have a great resume man... Next tell us you will do for America what you have done for Chicago.
If you are interested in knowing more of the Obama's i suggest you visit the sites i've posted below. http://www.obamatruth.org http://www.stop-obama.org
The hispanics attending Trinity are of Afro Puerto Rican and Afro Cuban = African bloodline
We were very skeptical about this interview, fearing that you may use it to bash Obama. What a wonderful surprise to find out more about who Rev. Wright really is and what he actually believes. His comment that the "sound byte" is communicating exactly what they want it to is very insightful. We are very impressed with his ideas and his works! Rita and Terry Flynn
For the posters questioning Rev. Wright's "AIDS Conspiracy Theory"...before you and the media start claiming he is wrong, try doing some "real" research on the issue. I'm not talking about listening to the media for answers...you can start of by googling "governemt create aids" and come up with SEVERAL theories to support Rev. Wright's claims. They may all be wrong, but the concerns expressed by Rev. Wright, in regards to the AIDS epidemic, is more than something he just made up on his own. Here are some sites for more information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIDS_conspiracy_theories http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20030703-9999_7m3boyd.html http://www.eaec.org/expose/KateMcClureExcllusive.htm http://www.totse.com/en/conspiracy/the_aids_conspiracy/govtaids.html http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20Government/AIDS%20and%20Population%20Elimination/aids_created_as_biowarfare.htm http://www.israelect.com/reference/WillieMartin/AIDS.htm Also, I have a question...why is that black people, who are "pro-black" considered racist, and white people who are "pro-white" are considered to have a lot of pride? From my vantage point, as a white person with several black friends, I don't really have a need to be "pro-white", because the vast majority of the world I live in is already "pro-white". When I walk into client sites, I am already deemed an expert in my field, and I am immediately accepted by clients and peers, alike. But, when my black co-worker, of whom I often go to for help can go to...
We were very skeptical about this interview, fearing that you may use it to bash Obama. What a wonderful surprise to find out more about who Rev. Wright really is and what he actually believes. His comment that the "sound byte" is communicating exactly what they want it to is very insightful. We are very impressed with his ideas and his works! Rita and Terry Flynn
We were very skeptical about this interview, fearing that you may use it to bash Obama. What a wonderful surprise to find out more about who Rev. Wright really is and what he actually believes. His comment that the "sound byte" is communicating exactly what they want it to is very insightful. We are very impressed with his ideas and his works! Rita and Terry Flynn
That is the reason why I said Hay to you because that what you sound like a Jack A**. The more you talk the more you sound like the end of one. And just to let you know I'm a white rich man that doing very well and the main reason why I'm talking to you is to help you out. I'm giving back to the cluesless ones that lost. But I would love to get that $4000. send it me.HAY Judi did you know that crack kill.
Similarities and Inconsistencies http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R6gcbC9Hz4
People have been making TOTALLY WRONG criticisms of Trinity Church calling it racist. How incredibly crazy! Trinity has white and Hispanic members. People outside Chicago do not understand the role of EVERY ethnic church. And actually ethic churches were pretty much the same in the eastern part of the country too. I was raised in an ethnic church in Pa. Chicago's Polish Catholic churches promote "Polish culture" and values. They play Polish music, eat Polish food, wear clothes made in Poland, arrange trips to Poland, help arriving Polish people get jobs, and have a Polish Day parade. And, many events have the US flag, the flag of Poland and the flag of the City of Chicago. All of this and more promotes a connection to the home country. It's mixing US and Polish culture and values. The Italian Catholic churches in Chicago promote "Italian culture" and values. They play Italian music, eat Italian food, wear clothes made in Italy, arrange trips to Italy, help arriving Italian people get jobs, etc. .... the same as the Polish Churches. The Mexican Catholic churches promote the "Mexican culture" and values. They play Mexican music, eat Mexican food,……. the same as the Polish, Italian...
How did we move to a country of robots? In the old days, everyone would see through all this BS. How is it everyone is so brainwashed these days? Barack Hussein Obama has attended the black version of the KKK for 20 years. He's also best friends with the grand pubar. If a white presidential candidate attended the KKK for 20 years, he wouldn't even win a state. Why is it then that someone who surrounds himself with every anti American, anti white, anti Jew around is the front runner to lead the country? How could a guy who would honestly be on every homeland security risk sheet based on his associations, backround and views actually be in the lead to run the country? I think 50% of the people in this country don't even live in reality anymore. Everyone who Obama associates with, including his wife... Hates This Country. How on earth then could Barack Hussein Obama even be in contention to run this country? How do you give a guy the key to the nuke when he hates our allies and loves our enemies? How was he even aloud to be a senator? Liberalism is truly a mental...
I'm Sure that Reverend Wright is well aware that he has the right to file a heafty lawsuit against several news stations as well as some of their personnel. On the other hand I'm sure he is more of a decent person than that and is bigger than that. I can see how Rev. Wright has taught Barack Obama humility. I could not understand why Barack Obama would not attack Hillary the way she does him. Barack is truly a man of God. He only attacked Hillary in defense when he did so. He is an Honest, decent and honorable man. This is the type of person we need in the White House to represent us to the world abroad.
I am the furthest thing from a church-goer and have actively shunned any sort of organized religion my entire adult life, but I would attend this man's church. In fact, I would relish it. Ironic because I grew up on the south side of Chicago and I think it's because of my purposeful avoidance of church that I never heard of him or his church. I feel like I missed something very special.
Thanks to PBS for offering us a fair and balanced perspective. I appreciate this interview.
I'm Sure that Reverend Wright is well aware that he has the right to file a heafty lawsuit against several news stations as well as some of their personnel. On the other hand I'm sure he is more of a decent person than that and is bigger than that. I can see how Rev. Wright has taught Barack Obama humility. I could not understand why Barack Obama would not attack Hillary the way she does him. Barack is truly a man of God. He only attacked Hillary in defense when he did so. He is an Honest, decent and honorable man. This is the type of person we need in the White House to represent us to the world abroad.
part 2 http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/larry-sinclair-affidavit.pdf
Hats off to Mr. Moyers for this fair and very insightful interview. I have lost so much respect for our media and politicians for how they manipulate facts to achieve their objectives. When you see how FOX, CNN and others have run continuously 10 second sound bites of Rev Wright and distorted his sermon simply to discredit Senator Obama is quite frankly disgusting. The fact that so many white Americans that once were uplifted by the freshness and hope of Obama and were willing to vote for him but who are now dissuaded because of the Rev wright sound bites and media manipulation of the facts and racial fears is even sadder. It doesn't take much to play on suchl fears in this country. I simply hope that in future generations folks smarter than us will stand up and say "enough is enough!!" We will not be manipulated anymore. I just don't think we're there yet, which means Obama's bid for the Presidency is likely going to fail. God bless America.
stop-obamaDOTorg hay God don't like ugly and when the next time something bad happen to you just think about the BS that comes out of your mouth
How did we move to a country of robots? In the old days, everyone would see through all this BS. How is it everyone is so brainwashed these days? Barack Hussein Obama has attended the black version of the KKK for 20 years. He's also best friends with the grand pubar. If a white presidential candidate attended the KKK for 20 years, he wouldn't even win a state. Why is it then that someone who surrounds himself with every anti American, anti white, anti Jew around is the front runner to lead the country? How could a guy who would honestly be on every homeland security risk sheet based on his associations, backround and views actually be in the lead to run the country? I think 50% of the people in this country don't even live in reality anymore. Everyone who Obama associates with, including his wife... Hates This Country. How on earth then could Barack Hussein Obama even be in contention to run this country? How do you give a guy the key to the nuke when he hates our allies and loves our enemies? How was he even aloud to be a senator? Liberalism is truly a mental...
Investigative Report: Murder involving Trinity Church Why isn’t the murder of Mr. Young, the late choir director of Trinity Church, making news? Why is it that only young pretty woman or children make the news when they are killed or abused? And why was Mr. Young allegedly calling Larry Sinclair? Now that Trinity is in the limelight, this murder should be in it too. Was this gay man killed by people who hated homosexuals or was something much more sinister going on? This incident has many more implications for the country than Natalie’s death in Arbua, and yet, not a peep from the mainstream media. What’s going on? In a related development, here is the link to the affidavit that Larry Sinclair filed. Basically, it concerns Mr. Sinclair’s contact with Mr. Young who was murdered in Chicago last year. It also concerned alleged drug use by Obama. You can click the link below to find out more. The question we have is, is there any connection between Mr. Young and Larry Sinclair? We keep you posted as soon as we have any reliable information.
I'm Sure that Reverend Wright is well aware that he has the right to file a heafty lawsuit against several news stations as well as some of their personnel. On the other hand I'm sure he is more of a decent person than that and is bigger than that. I can see how Rev. Wright has taught Barack Obama humility. I could not understand why Barack Obama would not attack Hillary the way she does him. Barack is truly a man of God. He only attacked Hillary in defense when he did so. He is an Honest, decent and honorable man. This is the type of person we need in the White House to represent us to the world abroad.
stop-obamaDOTorg hay God don't like ugly and when the next time something bad happen to you just think about the BS that comes out of your mouth.
Big Al Hay is for horses and I'm the one without the education here. Yikes! When I get that 4,000 I 'll send you an email. Some people will say anything to get elected.
Judi, "The country is divided because Liberals are angry"? That makes a lot of sense. You are making it way too easy Judi with this education thing. I enjoy being a Liberal and a Conservative. You see I do not go by what others say in the media, I research the facts for myself when I vote. I refuse to categorize myself when both parties are guilty of earmarks and taking lobbyist money. Rev. Wright had no bearing on my decision to vote for Obama. McCain is a gutless flip flopper and Ron Paul is an interest to me because he did not vote for the Iraq war and says he will start to pull out carefully just like Obama. But I part with him when he talks about education among other things. Sincerely, BJ
Investigative Report: Murder involving Trinity Church Why isn’t the murder of Mr. Young, the late choir director of Trinity Church, making news? Why is it that only young pretty woman or children make the news when they are killed or abused? And why was Mr. Young allegedly calling Larry Sinclair? Now that Trinity is in the limelight, this murder should be in it too. Was this gay man killed by people who hated homosexuals or was something much more sinister going on? This incident has many more implications for the country than Natalie’s death in Arbua, and yet, not a peep from the mainstream media. What’s going on? In a related development, here is the link to the affidavit that Larry Sinclair filed. Basically, it concerns Mr. Sinclair’s contact with Mr. Young who was murdered in Chicago last year. It also concerned alleged drug use by Obama. You can click the link below to find out more. The question we have is, is there any connection between Mr. Young and Larry Sinclair? We keep you posted as soon as we have any reliable information.
I'm Sure that Reverend Wright is well aware that he has the right to file a heafty lawsuit against several news stations as well as some of their personnel. On the other hand I'm sure he is more of a decent person than that and is bigger than that. I can see how Rev. Wright has taught Barack Obama humility. I could not understand why Barack Obama would not attack Hillary the way she does him. Barack is truly a man of God. He only attacked Hillary in defense when he did so. He is an Honest, decent and honorable man. This is the type of person we need in the White House to represent us to the world abroad.
I'm Sure that Reverend Wright is well aware that he has the right to file a heafty lawsuit against several news stations as well as some of their personnel. On the other hand I'm sure he is more of a decent person than that and is bigger than that. I can see how Rev. Wright has taught Barack Obama humility. I could not understand why Barack Obama would not attack Hillary the way she does him. Barack is truly a man of God. He only attacked Hillary in defense when he did so. He is an Honest, decent and honorable man. This is the type of person we need in the White House to represent us to the world abroad.
Dear Mr. Moyers and members of his audience, The most amazing thing about this interview is arguably the dialogue that has begun on this blog. Your comments reflect our American diversity. The reasonable thinkers on the blog are more numerous than the unreasonable. And I bet the longer the unreasonable stay engaged in the dialogue, the more reasonable they are likely to become! So let this dialogue on race - in government, religion and society at large - continue and deepen...
Judi, The country is divided because Liberals are angry. That makes a lot of sense. You are making it way too easy Judi with this education thing. I enjoy being a Liberal and a Conservative. You see I do not go by what others say in the media, I research the facts for myself when I vote. I refuse to categorize myself when both parties are guilty of earmarks and taking lobbyist money. Rev. Wright had no bearing on my decision to vote for Obama. McCain is a gutless flip flopper and Ron Paul is an interest to me because he did not vote for the Iraq war and says he will start to pull out carefully just like Obama. But I part with him when he talks about education among other things. Sincerely, BJ
Hay stop-obamaDOTorg Look God don't like ugly, so the next time something happen to you just think about the BS that comes out of your mouth.
Investigative Report: Murder involving Trinity Church Why isn’t the murder of Mr. Young, the late choir director of Trinity Church, making news? Why is it that only young pretty woman or children make the news when they are killed or abused? And why was Mr. Young allegedly calling Larry Sinclair? Now that Trinity is in the limelight, this murder should be in it too. Was this gay man killed by people who hated homosexuals or was something much more sinister going on? This incident has many more implications for the country than Natalie’s death in Arbua, and yet, not a peep from the mainstream media. What’s going on? In a related development, here is the link to the affidavit that Larry Sinclair filed. Basically, it concerns Mr. Sinclair’s contact with Mr. Young who was murdered in Chicago last year. It also concerned alleged drug use by Obama. You can click the link below to find out more. The question we have is, is there any connection between Mr. Young and Larry Sinclair? We keep you posted as soon as we have any reliable information. http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/larry-sinclair-affidavit.pdf
Every Nation( their leadership might not admit it publicly) look up to the USA for guidance. We the people of USA have to decide whether we really want to fully assume this leadership or step aside for Europe which failed miserable when they had the chance or to China (Just like Esau, who gave up his birthrights to Isaac). After watching your interview with Dr. Wrights, I decided to do more investigations on the internet regarding those sermons. I am beginning to question who truly our enemies are. Are these our own American patriots who are telling are us the truth and warning the current generation of the repercussions of doing something contrary to GOD’s will? Or our own people working with outsiders telling us what we want to hear for the sake of getting paid? Great Nations perish because the people can’t handle the Truth! Church leaders are supposed to warn us when our Nation is not following the path of GOD. AND our leaders should make the right decision and not adhere to psalm 137:9 if they are true Christians. They should take a stand! . This great Nation can do better! And we are the only hope...
BJ---let's just say we agree to disagree. And it is obvious I am a conservative and you are a Liberal. Otherwise we could go all morning here. I guess you don't mind paying taxes while others don't. And I'm sure if we continue to banter back and forth you would also give me a lesson in History. No thanks I'm all set there. Obama will not be getting my vote because of Wright. I guess we can just end it at that. Obvious I am not going to get an apology for you calling me a bigot and stupid to boot. Shame on you!
Judi, The country is divided because Liberals are angry. That makes a lot of sense. You are making it way too easy Judi with this education thing. I enjoy being a Liberal and a Conservative. You see I do not go by what others say in the media, I research the facts for myself when I vote. I refuse to categorize myself when both parties are guilty of earmarks and taking lobbyist money. Rev. Wright had no bearing on my decision to vote for Obama. McCain is a gutless flip flopper and Ron Paul is an interest to me because he did not vote for the Iraq war and says he will start to pull out carefully just like Obama. But I part with him when he talks about education among other things. Sincerely, BJ
Investigative Report: Murder involving Trinity Church Why isn’t the murder of Mr. Young, the late choir director of Trinity Church, making news? Why is it that only young pretty woman or children make the news when they are killed or abused? And why was Mr. Young allegedly calling Larry Sinclair? Now that Trinity is in the limelight, this murder should be in it too. Was this gay man killed by people who hated homosexuals or was something much more sinister going on? This incident has many more implications for the country than Natalie’s death in Arbua, and yet, not a peep from the mainstream media. What’s going on? In a related development, here is the link to the affidavit that Larry Sinclair filed. Basically, it concerns Mr. Sinclair’s contact with Mr. Young who was murdered in Chicago last year. It also concerned alleged drug use by Obama. You can click the link below to find out more. The question we have is, is there any connection between Mr. Young and Larry Sinclair? We keep you posted as soon as we have any reliable information. http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/larry-sinclair-affidavit.pdf
Judi, The country is divided because Liberals are angry. That makes a lot of sense. You are making it way too easy Judi with this education thing. I enjoy being a Liberal and a Conservative. You see I do not go by what others say in the media, I research the facts for myself when I vote. I refuse to categorize myself when both parties are guilty of earmarks and taking lobbyist money. Rev. Wright had no bearing on my decision to vote for Obama. McCain is a gutless flip flopper and Ron Paul is an interest to me because he did not vote for the Iraq war and says he will start to pull out carefully just like Obama. But I part with him when he talks about education among other things. Sincerely, BJ
Hay Judi, See you made my point, you run your mouth and you don't know me. now let me throw you an life line. I don't care if we don't agree, see I can respect that and that is the main point, you don't know anything about a black church, just like the Rev. I pay taxes and what. Who cares, see people like you act like they know try to play smart just to hang with the in crowd is the reason why things don't change. You say you did your homework, so that mean you went to a black church. yah right or did you get it off of foxnews or youtube. Now I have throw you an life line, now no more. Hay, Sen.Obama will give you $4000 per yr to get you some Education. Hay you can say you are getting something out of your vote
Barack Obama's god isn't the loving, forgiving, wise, and powerful God most Christians know. Obama's god, the god of Trinity, is not in the business of bringing people together, instead he is a god that is totally exclusive to the black community. White Americans need to realize that Obama's god is not here for understanding, or reconciliation. Obama's god is here to participate in the destruction of the white race by any means possible. Barack Obama's Jesus, a black man, was sent to this world by God to endure the pain and humiliation of black people in order to free them from the oppression of whites and transform them into liberating servants. Trinity's Jesus is not the Jesus of the bible. So when Obama says Rev. Wright, "introduced me to Jesus," he is speaking of a Jesus that belongs solely to the black community. In the words of Rev. Wright's mentor and most prominent theologian in this religion, James Cone, "Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him...
Hay Judi, See you made my point, you run your mouth and you don't know me. now let me throw you an life line. I don't care if we don't agree, see I can respect that and that is the main point, you don't know anything about a black church, just like the Rev. I pay taxes and what. Who cares, see people like you act like they know try to play smart just to hang with the in crowd is the reason why things don't change. You say you did your homework, so that mean you went to a black church. yah right or did you get it off of foxnews or youtube. Now I have throw you an life line, now no more. Hay, Sen.Obama will give you $4000 per yr to get you some Education. Hay you can say you are getting something out of your vote
Good Evening. After watching the journal and hearing Reverend Wright's comments about America please get a message to the Reverend and ask the Reverend the following. Did Americans in particular create hate and terrorism? NO, BUT WE HAVE A HISTORY OF HATE, AND TREATING NON WHITE PEOPLE AS INFERIOR, AND HATING PEOPLE BASED ON THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN. SO THE SHORT ANSWER IS, THE DEVIL CREATED HATE, AND WE JUST HELP HIM EXECUTE IT. Were the American Indians using the entire area of what is now known as the United States? DOESN’T MATTER. WE KILLED THEM FOR THE LAND THEY DID OCCUPY. Did America create slavery? SO BECAUSE YOU DIDN’T CREATE SLAVERY, YOU BELIEVE IT WAS RIGHT? YOU ARE THE REASON WHY WE HAVE LAWS. LAWS ARE MADE FOR THE HEARTLESS. THEY ARE MADE TO KEEP THOSE WITHOUT A COUSCIOUS FROM KILLING US ALL. Who did the Americans get/purchase the African slaves from? SHORT ANSWER. SOME WERE BOUGHT FROM OTHER AFRICANS, OTHERS WERE CAPTURED. AND YOUR POINT IS? Who was the president of the U.S. precipitating the Civil War? I DON’T UNDERSTAND THE POINT HERE EITHER. Who fought in the Civil War? ALL PEOPLE, INCLUDING SLAVES. Which War awarded...
I want to commend both Bill Moyers and Rev. Wright for an eye opening interview. Though many will rant and rave at what Rev. Wright said, he was correct on many grounds. Like he said, God's word condemns how our nation behaves. God's word does not look at the name of a nation, but its behavior. I find it interesting that John Hagee, and the late Jerry Falwell can condemn America based upon homosexuality, atheism, liberalism, and hedonism; however, when the Rev. Wright condemns America on policies that are counter to God's word within the bible, he is vilified and crucified. What he said was not incorrect, he simply did not state it in a manner that was palpable to all those concerned. Once again, well done by both men.
I guess this was expected by some. Okay the truth, America had to be pulled kicking and screaming into the civil rights movement which they LARGELY agreed leaving it the way it was because it didn't affect you directly. Yes the extreme racist have been marginalized by many people and the media in general, but to say racism is a dead issue and not worth talking about, only have to look at how Kartina was handled and compared that to the Wildfires in San Diego. You only have to look at the Jena 6 and while the media has left, there's still a major legal struggle going on down there. That is the issue, that is the problem and you need to WAKE UP! Its not dead, its not over and its a constant battle, so give a fug about it and not just if Micheal Vick was involved in killing dogs while he sits in jail and a president with the blood of 4,000 Americans and countless millions of Iraqis is still in office and still has a 30% approval rating. Why is "White America" afraid of a "Black Agenda"? Of course you know why, Black and Brown people...
After watching Rev, Wright I am VERY angry with the media, Hillary, McCain, white church leaders and yes, I'm angry with Obama. I'm angry that Obama didn't try to explain his reverend better. If I were still practicing christian I would be happy to be in Wright's church if they would accept a white woman. I'm angry white church leaders didn't come to the defense of Rev. Wright more forcefully. Samantha Powers was right about Hillary and we all know who the media serves.
Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community … Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.”
Rev Wright YANKED off the sheet,and DARED Americans to wake up from their soft, cushiony and cozy slumber. Thank you Bill Moyers.
When I heard various news commentators reviewing the interview before it was publicly aired, I was afraid to watch it--but I did. What were the commentators talking about???? I don't understand how the reverend's words could be used against the candidate. The reverend is so intelligently articulate and speaks such truth, I (not particularly religious) would like to join his congregation. The interview bears no resemblance to the critical media commentaries. What a tremendous disservice most of the media is doing to the Reverend Wright, Senator Obama, and the public! Thank you Bill Moyers.
Judi, You are in need of education seriously. Do you know any history at all. Again, what exactly do you want here. Affirmation that you are right as a conservative. You are unhappy about paying taxes and you want Rev. to pay taxes like you. If that is your only gripe then you really do not get it. Maybe you should go research how many other pastors black and white do not pay taxes like you. Maybe it will make you feel better. And you are right maybe you are a bigot of another race so what a bigot is a bigot. I am sweet as honey, so thanks. Sincerely, BJ
Jerry Wrong and Obama LIE!!! "What I value most about Pastor Wright is not his day-to-day political advice," rather "He's much more of a sounding board for me to make sure that I am speaking as truthfully about what I believe as possible and that I'm not losing myself in some of the hype and hoopla and stress that's involved in national politics." http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/custom/religion/chi-070121-relig_wright,1,271630.story?page=1&coll=chi-religion-topheadlines&ctrack=1&cset=true Didn't wrong say just say he and osama never talk about politics? Day to day and sounding board implies something totally different than what was claimed... Hmm...
BJ---Obama is very well educated but is NOT capable of running this Country. That is my personal opinion. So your saying I am a bigot because I don't agree with your Politics? Sorry honey there not an ounce of jealousy in me. Just don't let it when I;m paying taxes and someone else isn't. I guess that makes me a bigot also according to you. Can you see me? You just assumed I was white. It just seems to me that your a Liberal and most Liberals are angry people. That my dear is why this country is divided. You don't need an education to figure that one out.
You tell me Jack Howard, Why is the Government policy so anti-black? Rev. Wright feels this way because the government seemingly do nothing help uplift the black community. When people live in despair they try and rationalize it with conspiracy or something to help them come to terms with why there community is forgotten. The fact is there is an assault on the black community by the Government making anti-black policy and sitting on there hands while AIDS and drugs is destroying families and the African American community period. It is very easy to say the words "don't do drugs" and "have safe sex" but when it is not working or not being implemented we must as one American community be there to give a hand to anybody or community that needs help. Right now I know the same system of bureaucratic bigotry still stands for America, unfortunately. Sincerely, BJ
I believe true journalists have been hijacked off there jobs,big thumbs up to Bill Moyer we need to restore journalism as a profession and the jobs need to be given to those who seek to be ethical in the way they report. but think about this again, the two well known so Right wing journalists (talk radio spinners) Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity? i do not know what script they read from, but i know this script is true , no matter how you slice and dice it, listen they are no credible journalists, they are just bloggers like us who got jobs as talk radio hosts and gained some fame, they do not have knowledge about anything other than opinions, you and i can give.Here is a thing Rush Limbaugh is a college dropout like his pal Sean Hannity who is also a college dropout, Rush Limbaugh wasnt only a college dropout but he was among the worst students at his college,every class that he took in college, he failed!but guess what, he is the most influential republican, Republicans make a pilgrimage to Rush before they run for presidence...lol either the party is a a party dumb people or...
Big Al there is nothing wrong with my hearing. I did my homework and watched the same program you did. The problem with people like you is that if we don't agree with you you get an attitude. You are right you don't know me. SDo now you owe me an apology. I got something completly different out of the so called interview. I'll take that apology now thank you very much.
Loved the Rev Wright interview. But now, Bill Moyers,it looks like Bill O'Reilly is coming after you. He stated that he'll decided whether or not he will "hang" you after he views the full interview with Wright. Maybe it's time to fight back with some "911 Truth". Please give Jesse Ventura some air time.
Hay Jack, Have the goverment ever came out and said it not true. This isn't the first time this was said. This HIV issue goes back to the 80's. People have been talking about HIV and the goverment for years I know singer talking about HIV in there songs. If you need info I can throw you a life line. When HIV first came out you had scientist say it from an Africa have sex with a monkey. Blacks don't bang animals.hint hint.
Beverly J---You no nothing about me. How dare you call me a bigot? What because I don't agree with you? I did my homework and I don't like what I read. But I am far from a bigot. No I do not have an education but I am not a stupid person. I am well informed when it comes to Politics. I'll take that apology now thank you very much!
Rev.Wright talks about being taken out of context with soundbites. He may be right,yet thats just what he does by saying this country is so terrible with it's slavery for instance. Well we fought a war to end it and we have had programs such as affirmative action to right the terrible wrong. Rev.Wright says we were terrible to bomb Japan and kill thousands, yet if you talked to anyone who was around at the time they say probably a million or more Japanese would have died if we continued the War in the Pacific. If this were 50 yrs ago I could give him some slack but I know I'm not alone when we are called a racist country and for the vast majority of us it simply is not true. So when he says we deserved 9-11 it's going to get real tiresome.If we are such a terribly racist country why do so many want to live here and very few want to leave. As for Sen.Obama, as a Republican I have considered voting for him, yet if it is found out his children were witnessed to this kind of hatred for our country, it could be a...
Hay Judi, it not about the education, but for someone that want to call someone crazy and stupid and all these other nasty words need to check himself. Now before you start talking about something you must find out what you are talking about because if you don't the only person that looks stipid is that want that on't know what they are talking about. Have you ever went to a black church. If not how do you say what goes on in one. You coming off like we are wrong. I watch the news and what I see and hear I hope that I'm getting the truth, not someone opinion. Now I don't know you and you don't know me. So I can't just go off on you like that.But I pay for my cable and I'm paying for some real info not some BS that fit the way he or she feel. I have a brain I can think for myself. I don't have time for someone that have a problem with someone and he find a few words and put them together and force that mess on my TV all day and it not the whole truth...
There is always two sides to every story. Thank you Bill Moyers for your fair journalism.
Judi, The reason why you do not understand is because like you said you are not EDUCATED. So go educate yourself and then come back and post. What exactly are you trying to accomplish here? You really seem like a scared bigot who is grappling with this great country of ours electing a Great African American President in the very near future. So what, he has a big house and have money, he made it, The American Dream. What is wrong with that? All of these high profile ministers white and black have many homes and much money, so what? It has nothing to do with anything. I think you are just jealous he is making out better than you. Oh my goodness a black man makes more money than a white person, this is un-American. Get over it Judi. sincerely, BJ
When are you going to interview David Duke, Moyers? You don't even challenge him on the lies that are provable. When Clinton bombed the asprin factory in Sudan, he did it at NIGHT when almost no one was there. Wright is a liar as is his buddy Obama.
BJ, I have not "trashed" black liberation theology, but I may get around to it. I understand why blacks (and whites) do drugs. But all that I've said is that this was not the result of a U.S. govt. conspiracy, as Wright proclaims, there is no evidence of it, it is an ignorant, dangerous and inflammatory proclamation, and I condemn Wright for both that proclamation and his other one claiming that the U.S. govt. invented the AIDS virus in order to purposely kill blacks.
So because crack is more addictive you think this is OK to punish them more severely? Instead of putting them in prison why not get them treatment. I mean real treatment and education not these fake court appointed rehab places just in it for the government money either. That way these people who are addicted gets the help they need and saves a family for God sake. It probably costs less than to build more prisons to house more drug addicts. Building prisons has become very lucrative at the expense of the black community. Take your blinders off and research it for yourself. I feel a lot of people have an firm opinion on things that they just pick up from other bigots. I hope this is not you Jack Howard. Sincerely, BJ
For those who stated that Mr. Hannity does not have an education does NOT mean that he is stupid. I am offended by that accusation. I do not have an education and I consider myself well informed about these candidates among other things. That's an insult. With that said since you think someone owes Wright an apology you owe us an apology. Stupid I am NOT. What is stupid is that you didn't do your homework on the Reverend or Obama. If Obama bleievs in his mentor then he should stay at his Church that he has been attending for twenty years. Why has he distant himself from his Pastor if he feels he is right? This is all BS. It seams we got different views of the Wright speech. Because I heard the same speech as many of you did and I came away with a very angry Pastor. Please don't hit me with Fox etc. I watch all news. I am NOT educated but I think I could have given a more interesting interview with the Reverend then Moyers did. It was boring as hell. I was just waiting for them to kiss at the end. I will...
He gave this 60 yr. white girl hope. He spoke the truth as I heard it. I have recorded this wonderful PBS show and pray that we can save our lives and planet from the evil people that twist and lie and manipulate. God of all religions help us.
This was an outstanding interview. Thanks for getting the truth out and airing his comments in context. If we faced the truth about our country, his comments would not have been an issue.
AKing, So-you have no evidence that AIDS was created in a govt. lab to kill black people, and as to the question of govt. introduction of crack to lock up blacks, you say "most likely not". Good for you! As to your "definite" conclusion of motive, how the hell do you prove that?
Hay Jack, you are clueless, let me throw you a life line. God is a great God and True God and an forgiving God. But as they say don't throw stones if you live in a glass house. Oh for you don't live in a trailer in the middle of a tornado. You and Bush had the same teacher in the 3rd grade. Just Clueless. I can see that you are scared of blacks, you use to get your milk money taken when you was in the 3rd grade. Study your history first before commenting on anything else. You must be on that wacky weed or a myth head. Your brains are just fried. Crack kill.
Hey Jack Howard, Do you even see that Blacks especially the poor in down trodden neighborhoods do what they do to survive. You may not understand the racism that is woven into the fabric of this country, even the education. People to cope may turn to drugs or irresponsible behavior and I find this is true for all people regardless of races. I remember when crystal meth started being talked about in the media. They were very sympathetic to these mostly white women who found themselves hooked. I have NEVER seen a news report that was sympathetic to crack users. There is a bias when it comes to black people in this country that is undeniable. You my not be paying attention or have blinders on. Black liberation theology may be controversial to you but it helps black folk get through their week. Someone is speaking to what they are feeling or experiencing from American society. But that does not mean they have to agree with every damn thing the pastor says. He is still moving the people toward righteousness. Just because it does not paint a rosy picture of white America does not mean you have to trash it...
Sir, thank you for doing this and thank you for playing parts of the sermons before and after the soundbites we had been exposed to. I had seen the full sermons, so I was informed, but so many others were not and this interview at least gives some perspective. It may not have been complete, but it sure was conducted with a desire to understand rather than to condemn.
@ Jack Howard: I am answering your two questions, but not with overly lengthy explanations. Should you desire more information, please read it for yourself. 1)The U.S. government created the aids virus to kill blacks. The AIDS virus was trigged by smallpox vaccines given to African children. The live [contaminated] vaccine "awakened" the dormant HIV. Seeing as how these were AFRICAN children that were affected, who's to say that the disease was NOT introduced into the community by similar measures? I don't know how old YOU are, but if you've reached a "certain" age (i.e. at least 25) and you were vaccinated for smallpox, you'd remember it every time you looked at that funny looking scar on your shoulder that was the hallmark of the old vaccine. So yes, I think there is a grain of truth to that idea - but I'm searching for more information. (It's what I do.) 2) The U.S. government introduced crack into the black community so that black men. In the late 19th - early 20th Century, the U.S. government punished the black community more heavily when blacks began using drugs (which was far, far less than whites and the Chinese). The 1910 Report...
mr. moyers, thank you for a professional, responsible interview with jeremiah wright. what the mainstream media has done (or attempted to do) to this man and his church is reprehensible. corporate media has too much power. that has to change. i pray it will sooner rather than later.
Thank you, Bill Moyers and Rev. Wright for this inspiring interview! I'm a white senior citizen and I consider myself very well informed. I am ashamed of our government's continual (and historical) deceptions, so I was awed by Rev. Wright's courage to tell the truth. I couldn't read through all these comments, but was glad to see that most of them appear to be supportive. As for those who want to keep repeating their hateful views... may God bless America... PLEASE! (We need help here!)
This magnificient interview suggests to me that the whole Wright episode needs to be incorporated into high school curriculum. It touches history, religion, politics and the role of very bad television in our troubled democracy. The foulest sh** can spring the sweetest flowers...
Finally a media outlet showed a fair and balance look at the Rev. Wright's comments. I found it sad that only three minutes of this man sermons are defining his thirty-one years in the ministry. Why is this an issue when no one mentions the fact the McCain did not know the difference between Iran and Al Qaeda. That is my definition of a real controvesy
Beverly J, Crack is much more highly addictive than cocaine, and was therefore penalized more severely. If you want to defeat this supposed conspiracy, just don't do crack. Presto, you win. As for the education system, I agree it is a train wreck. But a stable family life, with concerned parents willing to sacrifice their present for their children's future will do more than the NEA to help.
I received an email back in January about Sen. Obama's church. It was not a new issue when it "broke". Those with an agenda just needed more time to develop it. It’s unfortunate that some need to demonize others to feel some sense of self-worthiness. Why is FOX’s fixed fight newsworthy? I don’t mind a fight, just let it be fair. The press and others are true to their own feelings, howsomever light-weight. Cowardice and an undying sense of entitlement is overwhelmingly the message. Michael Moore's rendition of those fearful people going to get their guns in "Bowling for Columbine” depicts the mentality of those who would think that just because they themselves are violent assume others share equally in that trait! I do know a little about Trinity United Church of Christ. My former pastor was mentored by Rev. Jeremiah Wright. My former pastor remains the best teacher of the Bible that I've ever heard. I grew exponentially under his teaching. Our pastors don’t draw us towards themselves, they draw us towards God. I can assume the same for Sen. Obama. Those who spew hateful words about Rev. J. Wright don’t even profess knowing God. Rev. Wright could not...