JUDY WOODRUFF: The Congressional Budget Office is out tonight with its analysis of the Republican health care bill. It includes the nonpartisan agency’s best estimates on cost, coverage and other issues.
Our Lisa Desjardins has been looking at the numbers, and she joins me now.
Lisa, what’s the headline here?
LISA DESJARDINS: There are several, but let’s start with a very big one. What will this mean for health insurance coverage for Americans?
The Congressional Budget Office looked at the numbers and found that this Republican bill in just the first year, next year, would mean some 14 million Americans who have insurance now wouldn’t have it. The ranks of the uninsured would go up and they would continue to go up.
Next year, that’s because, Judy, they say the mandate ends. So people would choose no longer to have coverage because there is no mandate penalty. That shifts in 2024, where we see now another 24 million Americans or a total of 24 million Americans over now uninsured. And it grows because of the Medicaid changes, largely Medicaid cuts.
JUDY WOODRUFF: And you were telling that members of Congress, that the White House and others have already been commenting on this.
LISA DESJARDINS: That’s right.
We had very quick reaction from congressional Democrats. Let’s start with House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi.
REP. NANCY PELOSI, D-Calif., House Minority Leader: The CBO has reported that the Republican bill pushes 24 million people out of health care, off of health coverage. This is a remarkable figure. It speaks so eloquently to the cruelty of a bill that the speaker called an act of mercy. I don’t know if he thinks it’s an act of mercy to all the people who will lose coverage
LISA DESJARDINS: And, Judy, Republicans didn’t waste time either.
The White House — new Health and Human Services Secretary Tom Price spoke. He thinks these numbers on CBO coverage are wrong.
TOM PRICE, U.S. Health and Human Services Secretary: It basically says that we will be right back at pre-Obamacare status with about 40 million people uninsured in this country.
We believe that the plan that we’re putting in place is going to insure more individuals than currently are insured. So, we think that the CBO simply has it wrong.
JUDY WOODRUFF: So, Lisa, CBO, Congressional Budget Office, also looked at what is going to happen to premiums and their costs. What did they say about that?
LISA DESJARDINS: Right. That is the other big personal effect of this.
And is a mixed bag. Let’s look at what the CBO found there. In the next two years, the Congressional Budget Office found that actually this plan will increase premiums overall. They say that’s because healthy people will leave. The mandate penalty is removed and people that don’t have to have care will leave.
But then, after that, they say, that the premiums will actually go down. And that’s because there will be more choices, that there will no longer be these bronze plans, silver plans. There will be bare-bones insurance plans that are not allowed now. And they think more people will choose them, premiums will go down.
But one very important note, Judy. They think it’s by age. So premiums will likely go up for older Americans in general.
JUDY WOODRUFF: Which people we will of course be paying attention to across the board.
And, finally, Lisa, what about the effect on the budget?
LISA DESJARDINS: Right.
This is something Republicans care about dearly. The CBO found something that Republicans like. They say that this Republican plan would save over $300 billion in the deficit over the next 10 years. How does it do that? Well, a large part of that is the Medicaid cuts, over $800 billion in Medicaid cuts in this.
But Republicans for a long time have felt that Medicaid spending was out of control. They’re reining it in here. That’s going to be a very big debate.
JUDY WOODRUFF: Well, Lisa Desjardins, I know you have only had an hour or two to look at this. It came out after 4:00 Eastern this afternoon. Thank you.
And we will continue to look at the impact of the CBO report.
LISA DESJARDINS: My pleasure.
JUDY WOODRUFF: Thank you.