By — PBS News Hour PBS News Hour By — Nick Schifrin Nick Schifrin Leave your feedback Share Copy URL https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/putins-retaliation-sanctions-echoes-cold-war-tit-tat Email Facebook Twitter LinkedIn Pinterest Tumblr Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Transcript Audio Russian President Vladimir Putin's demand that the U.S. reduce its staff in Russia by hundreds of personnel is the latest diplomatic flash point in a tense relationship that he and President Trump had sought to improve. Special correspondent Nick Schifrin reports. Read the Full Transcript Notice: Transcripts are machine and human generated and lightly edited for accuracy. They may contain errors. WILLIAM BRANGHAM: Yesterday brought another low point between the United States and Russia, as Vladimir Putin elaborated on his demand that the U.S. reduce its staff in Russia by hundreds of personnel.It's the latest diplomatic flash point in a tense relationship that President Trump and Putin had sought to improve.Special correspondent Nick Schifrin reports. NICK SCHIFRIN: This weekend on the Neva River in St. Petersburg, Russia celebrated its global naval ambitions. President Putin hailed thousands of Russian sailors lined up on ships and submarines. He said his hopes for a revamped, reenergized navy had been realized. And he admitted his hopes for a better relationship with the United States had been dashed. PRESIDENT VLADIMIR PUTIN, Russia (through interpreter): We had waited quite a long time and thought something might change for the better. We had hoped that the situation will somehow change, but apparently, if it changes, it won't be soon. NICK SCHIFRIN: On Friday, the Russian government ordered the closure of this U.S. Embassy Moscow storage facility. Today, American workers packed it up. The Russian government also ordered the closure of this country home used by U.S. diplomats, and an unprecedented, even stunning reduction in us staff, from more than 1,300 to 455.On state TV, Putin said he hoped he wouldn't have to deliver further punishment. VLADIMIR PUTIN (through interpreter): We certainly have something to respond with and restrict those areas of joint cooperation that will be painful for the American side, but I don't think we need to do it. NICK SCHIFRIN: Dmitri Trenin runs the Carnegie Center in Moscow. DMITRI TRENIN, Carnegie Center: He cares about the relationship. he is not going to burn his bridge, although it may be a very rickety bridge, that he has established with President Trump. NICK SCHIFRIN: Just 300 miles away from St. Petersburg, Vice President Pence visited NATO and E.U. member Estonia. He praised Estonia's commitment to NATO and called the Russian government's cap on staff drastic. And, like Putin, he said he hoped things didn't get even worse. VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE: A better relationship and the lifting of sanctions will require Russia to reverse the actions that caused the sanctions to be imposed in the first place. NICK SCHIFRIN: Those actions include destabilizing Ukraine and hacking during the 2016 election. Most U.S. officials tell me they want to see a robust response to Putin's moves, and acknowledge these days are echoing the Cold War diplomatic tit-for-tats of the 1980s. DANIEL FRIED, Atlantic Council: He wants to have a Cold War-type relationship? Let's remind him how this ended up. NICK SCHIFRIN: Ambassador Dan Fried led the Obama administration's efforts last year to sanction Russia. Fried urges the administration to exploit the nearly unanimously passed congressional sanctions bill. DANIEL FRIED: If the Russians are messing with us and trying a playbook from the Cold War, then, in general and without prejudice, let's implement those new sanctions with vigor. Let's lean forward and let's mean it. NICK SCHIFRIN: But that is exactly the kind of response that Russians fear will exacerbate a conflict that's increasingly dangerous and increasingly poisoned by the U.S.-Russia investigation. DMITRI TRENIN: Try to distinguish, or differentiate between the Russia story in the United States and the Russia policy of the United States, to make sure that the United States and Russia, who are adversaries at this point, do not become true enemies. NICK SCHIFRIN: And that is something that neither side wanted, but looks increasingly inevitable.For the PBS NewsHour, I'm Nick Schifrin. Listen to this Segment Watch Watch the Full Episode PBS NewsHour from Jul 31, 2017 By — PBS News Hour PBS News Hour By — Nick Schifrin Nick Schifrin Nick Schifrin is PBS NewsHour’s Foreign Affairs and Defense Correspondent. He leads NewsHour’s daily foreign coverage, including multiple trips to Ukraine since the full-scale invasion, and has created weeklong series for the NewsHour from nearly a dozen countries. The PBS NewsHour series “Inside Putin’s Russia” won a 2017 Peabody Award and the National Press Club’s Edwin M. Hood Award for Diplomatic Correspondence. In 2020 Schifrin received the American Academy of Diplomacy’s Arthur Ross Media Award for Distinguished Reporting and Analysis of Foreign Affairs. He was a member of the NewsHour teams awarded a 2021 Peabody for coverage of COVID-19, and a 2023 duPont Columbia Award for coverage of Afghanistan and Ukraine. Prior to PBS NewsHour, Schifrin was Al Jazeera America's Middle East correspondent. He led the channel’s coverage of the 2014 war in Gaza; reported on the Syrian war from Syria's Turkish, Lebanese and Jordanian borders; and covered the annexation of Crimea. He won an Overseas Press Club award for his Gaza coverage and a National Headliners Award for his Ukraine coverage. From 2008-2012, Schifrin served as the ABC News correspondent in Afghanistan and Pakistan. In 2011 he was one of the first journalists to arrive in Abbottabad, Pakistan, after Osama bin Laden’s death and delivered one of the year’s biggest exclusives: the first video from inside bin Laden’s compound. His reporting helped ABC News win an Edward R. Murrow award for its bin Laden coverage. Schifrin is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and a board member of the Overseas Press Club Foundation. He has a Bachelor’s degree from Columbia University and a Master of International Public Policy degree from the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS). @nickschifrin