LUCKY SEVERSON, correspondent: These people are angry at the North Carolina legislature. This was the 13th week they’d gathered outside and inside the General Assembly for what organizers call Moral Monday protests. So far, 925 citizens have been arrested, even some in wheel chairs.

Protesters: Forward together, not one step back.

George Reed

SEVERSON: At first the crowds were small, but each Monday they got bigger as the Republican legislature approved what the people here view as an extremely unjust budget and far-right social agenda. George Reed heads the North Carolina Council of Churches.

GEORGE REED (North Carolina Council of Churches): You might get your breath taken away for varying reasons, but I think just about everybody would agree it was a breathtaking session.

SEVERSON: The Republican governor said they were "outside agitators."

BISHOP MICHAEL CURRY: It is a fiction that outside agitators have had anything significant to do with this. The people who are protesting and present on Moral Monday are citizens of the state of North Carolina, with a few exceptions.

SEVERSON: The Reverend Michael Curry is the bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of North Carolina.

Bishop Michael Curry

BISHOP CURRY: If you look at the state budget and you look at the weight of the tax reform, it is heavily weighted to the wealthy and, to be sure, to the corporations. And the working poor are the ones who are bearing the brunt of the burden.

SEVERSON: Not everyone agrees. Tammy Fitzgerald runs the North Carolina Values Coalition.

TAMMY FITZGERALD: Immoral Monday is a term I have used and I do believe is true, because I think the issues that the crowds out there every Monday night are fighting for and protesting for are basically immoral positions.

SEVERSON: She thinks the protestors are a small minority, out of the mainstream, against a legislature that’s behaving prudently.

Tammy Fitzgerald

FITZGERALD: The question is whether you want the government to take care of people who have needs, or whether you want private citizens and the church to do that, and it’s a diabolical split in philosophy.

SEVERSON: Politically, North Carolina has been pretty evenly divided. Obama won here in his first presidential election. But in 2010 the Republicans, for the first time since Reconstruction, won both houses in the General Assembly. Then they redrew the district lines, making it easier to win even more conservative seats in 2012. Now in complete control of the General Assembly and the governor’s mansion, the Republicans have managed to push through a very conservative agenda.

FITZGERALD: The state under new leadership has taken the approach that it’s going to live on a balanced budget, and try and control government spending, and make government smaller so that people have more money to put in their wallets and more money to spend out in in the economy.

TYE HUNTER: We have to balance our budget every year; it’s a constitutional requirement. Our budget was balanced. They’ve cut taxes; all the benefit is for wealthy people, or all the real benefit.

Tye Hunter

SEVERSON: Tye Hunter is with a group of protestors from the United Church of Christ in Chapel Hill, who have all been arrested at the Moral Monday protests.

HUNTER: They’ve put a cap on the taxes you have to pay when you buy a yacht, and yet they’re increasing taxes for other things that poor people have to pay every day, like mobile homes.

SEVERSON: Legislators cut education across the board but added money for private and parochial school vouchers. They effectively disqualified more than 70,000 from unemployment benefits; and even though it didn’t come out of the state budget, blocked Medicaid expansion that would have covered 500,000 North Carolinians.

BISHOP CURRY: Who’s on Medicaid? The poorest of the poor. And so we literally, in the state of North Carolina, are casting sick people out into the street, so to speak, and what’s going to happen is our emergency rooms are going to fill up, and it’s going to cost us more in the long run.

SEVERSON: The congregation at the United Church has become very involved in the protests. On this Sunday several members march to the front to be blessed for their next protest. This is Pastor Richard Edens.


PASTOR RICHARD EDENS: There is great biblical precedent for people being arrested. You find it all over the New Testament. So it’s a great heritage to be a part of.

PASTOR JIMMIE HAWKINS: I was arrested on April 29th, with the first group that went in. There were 17 of us who were arrested.

SEVERSON: Pastor Jimmie Hawkins of the Covenant Presbyterian Church says his congregation has been very supportive of the protests.

PASTOR HAWKINS: We used to have tax-free weekend for parents who have children going back to school. This is a group of legislators who the minute they were elected saying they were going to cut your taxes, and they eliminated that, so ultimately they raised your taxes.

SEVERSON: But Pastor Patrick Wooden of the 3,000-member Upper Room Of God in Christ church thinks the legislators did a great job.

PASTOR PATRICK WOODEN: The way I view what the legislators are doing is that they’re providing or making an attempt to provide a business-friendly environment, which is good for everyone.

Pastor William Barber speaking at rally

PASTOR WILLIAM BARBER: (speaking at rally) But if they thought a couple of votes were going to turn us around, then they have another thought coming.

SEVERSON: Moral Mondays was initiated by Pastor William Barber, the head of the North Carolina NAACP. Over the weeks, the number of clergy who endorse the movement has grown considerably. Leaders of the Lutheran, Presbyterian, Episcopal, Roman Catholic, United Methodist, and Jewish faiths signed a statement of support, saying many of the new laws adversely impact the poor, aging, and children.

PASTOR WOODEN: My major disagreement is when men of the cloth are leading a protest and part of what they’re protesting is the legislature's attempt to protect the rights of the unborn and to put a limit on the killing of the unborn.

SEVERSON: The legislature approved one of the most restrictive anti-abortion laws in the nation, and that pleases Pastor Wooden.

Pastor Patrick Wooden

PASTOR WOODEN: We’ve lost more blacks to abortion than crime, violence, accidents, heart disease, cancer, high blood pressure, heart attacks, and strokes combined.

SEVERSON: The legislators also approved what may be the most restrictive voter law in the country. Kirstin Frescom is one of those who has been arrested.

KIRSTIN FRESCOM: The voter suppression is just so wrong to me, because we're in a democracy, and if anything we should be encouraging and supporting voting, and anything that stops that is just wrong in a democracy.

SEVERSON: Another new law further relaxes restrictions on guns.

BISHOP CURRY: Now you can have guns in parks and in public places and in bars. Again, people from across the spectrum, people in the center, what I call the sensible center, are beginning to say, "Wait a minute, this has gone too far."

HUNTER: They repealed the Racial Justice Act, which was an act that looked at the issue of whether race played a role in our death penalty in North Carolina. In fact, several people’s sentences were changed from death to life on account of the Racial Justice Act, and so this new legislature’s response is let's get rid of it.

PASTOR WOODEN: I think overall the General Assembly have done a great job, and I appreciate the work that they’re doing.

SEVERSON: But there are signs that the Moral Monday protests have been getting their message through to the general public.

PASTOR HAWKINS: A lot of people are now paying attention, and you see that the governor’s polls are going down, the polling for the state legislators is just in the bottom, and so I think people are starting to be more attentive, so I’m looking ahead to 2014 where we can have some new elections.

SEVERSON: The legislators have finished their business and gone home for the season, so the demonstrations are now moving to other North Carolina cities and so far drawing big crowds.

For Religion and Ethics NewsWeekly I’m Lucky Severson in Raleigh, North Carolina.

Moral Mondays

Religious leaders in North Carolina are being arrested in growing numbers to protest new laws they say adversely affect the poor, the aging, and children. “There is great biblical precedent for people being arrested,” says Rev. Richard Edens. “It’s a great heritage to be a part of.”

  • cipher

    TAMMY FITZGERALD: Immoral Monday is a term I have used and I do believe is true because I think the issues that the crowds out there every Monday night are fighting for and protesting for are basically immoral positions.

    PASTOR PATRICK WOODEN: The way I view what the legislators are doing is that they’re providing or making an attempt to provide a business-friendly environment which is good for everyone.

    Typical conservative evangelicals – arrogant, obnoxious and utterly clueless.

  • jgrim

    Oh, please. Corporations and their tools in the legislatures have abandoned their responsibilities to this country’s citizens. Profit & power are their gods.

    ‘Business-friendly’ is code for keeping the people who do unsafe warehouse work at poverty level wages; it’s code for forcing part-timers into medicaid so billionaires profits aren’t effected by health insurance costs; it’s code for farm workers who work 80 hrs/week with no overtime; it’s code for firing people who demand safe working conditions; it’s code for cutting social security for the rest of us so billionaires don’t have to pay the match; it’s code to justify giving OUR SS wages to Wall St to gamble with; it’s code for Wall St. to defraud small towns, cities, average investors by selling them cesspool products rated AAA; it’s code for Bank of America to take money from their customers bank accounts if their profits decline and hide this from their customers; it’s code for the amoral chamber of commerce & their puppets when they REFUSE to see 35% of our children live in poverty in the richest country on earth; it’s code for the amoral chamber of commerce and their puppets to claim charities & schools alone can deal with the 35% of children in poverty; it’s code for wage theft; it’s code for keeping capital gains taxes low, it’s code for the LOWEST corporate tax rate in the world; it’s code to deny health care by saying poor people can go to the emergency room; it’s code for cutting medicaid & food stamps by lying about deficits.

    Jesus threw the money changers out of the temple. That’s code for throwing the money changers out of our government- both republicans & democrats.

  • cipher

    You understand that I agree with you, right?

  • jgrim

    Sorry. I reacted before I read to the end of the post and posted before I saw the last sentence. I’m a little passionate about this issue…

  • cipher

    No problem! ;-)

  • bicfj

    Religion and Ethics Newsweekly has usually been advocating SINGLE ISSUE SEX-BASED MORALITY as being the only real morality. I’m talking about birth control, abortion, gays, single sex marriage and everything else related to that evil condition we all have to keep at bay because it is so evil, SEX. Individual Responsibility for actions is ignored. Prohibition is the only way, according to normal R & E news coverage.

    Today Religion and Ethics Newsweekly has finally abandoned its normal path and is covering the restrictive legislation passed by the ultra-conservative North Carolina lawmakers and governor. Finally, R & E has sided with the people against the real immorality. The real immorality is the suppression of the poor and the continued enhancement of welfare for the corporations and the wealthy, and voter suppression of the poor and the disadvantaged. Finally R & E has taken on real issues.

    The North Carolina Morality Monday marches by real people against their government’s actions should be extended beyond the borders of North Carolina and spread into all the many states that have enacted similar legislation and are mistreating their citizens in similar ways. We can hope that citizens everywhere will remember these marches and vote the single issue morality based politicians out of office.

    Congratulations to R & E Newsweekly for finally taking on the real evil.

  • Larry K

    As I watched the 8/26 program it was impossible to ignore the fact it was 80m -90% of those interviewed were supporters of “Moral Mondays” and that Lucky Sevresen was simply promoting this small Chapel Hill cause.
    Being that this on NPR there is not any surprise since NPR only presents what they want people to believe better known as propaganda. Fairness and balance is proclaimed by NPR but never practiced. NPR is incapable of objectivity and it’s a shame that Mr. Sevresen has accepted NPR’s lack of objectivity but maybe that’s the cost of staying on NPR? When you watch or listen to NPR you have to accept their bias.

  • cipher

    As opposed to the “fair and balanced” reporting on Fox news?

  • marleagilbert

    We know Christians disagree about abortion issues. But where is there support for big business in scripture? For Rev. Wooden to praise measures that help the wealthy businesses at the expense of the poor seems utterly opposite of Jesus’ message where the rich are only lauded for what they give away, when it is enough to diminish their wealth.

    Like the singers here in Wisconsin, we need the brave and determined protesters to raise these issues and keep them before us.

  • Steve Knight

    “Rev. Richard Barber”? Come on, Lucky, do a little more research – it’s WILLIAM Barber (not Richard). *sigh* Otherwise a great report.