By — Ali Rogin Ali Rogin By — Andrew Corkery Andrew Corkery By — Juliet Fuisz Juliet Fuisz Leave your feedback Share Copy URL https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/new-book-explores-the-science-behind-super-aging-and-longer-healthier-lifespans Email Facebook Twitter LinkedIn Pinterest Tumblr Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Transcript Audio Imagine a future where the aging process can be delayed and more people live active, healthy and disease-free lives well into their 90s. That reality may be sooner than you think, according to Dr. Eric Topol, author of the new book “Super Agers: An Evidence-Based Approach to Longevity.” Ali Rogin speaks with Topol about the rapidly advancing science of healthy aging. Read the Full Transcript Notice: Transcripts are machine and human generated and lightly edited for accuracy. They may contain errors. Ali Rogin: Imagine a future where the aging process can be delayed and more people live active, healthy, disease free lives well into their 90s. That reality may be here sooner than you think, according to Dr. Eric Topol, author of the recently published book "Super Agers: An Evidence Based Approach to Longevity." I talked to him earlier this week about the rapidly advancing science of Health Aging.Dr. Topol, thank you so much for joining us. What is a superager?Dr. Eric Topol, Author, "Super Agers": A superager we could roughly define as somebody over age 85 who's never had cancer, heart disease or any sign of neurodegenerative disease. Ali Rogin: And what research were you undertaking that led you to coin this term and identify this population? Eric Topol: Yeah, well, we actually called it the Welderly study. It was a very long study of seven years to find 1,400 people. And we did genome sequencing of this 1,400 person group and we found very little of genetic underpinnings to explain their remarkable healthspan. Ali Rogin: So what are some of the keys to becoming a superager and is it ever too late to start trying to become one? Eric Topol: People who are physically active, who have a healthy diet, have good sleep, health that connected with other people, these are all factors that contributed in the elderly. Some of it is luck, some of it, of course, is genetics. But that's not a dominant thing. And the biggest thing that I think we've uncovered beyond that study is that the immune system is playing a critical role in keeping people healthy at 8th, 9th and 10th decade of life.We know that the major age related diseases, cancer, neurodegenerative, cardiovascular, they take 20 years to incubate in our bodies before they actually show clinically. So we have such a great runway and we have so many ways to help prevent these diseases or certainly defer them for a long time from ever occurring. Ali Rogin: And you write about a health span. How does that differ from a person's lifespan? Eric Topol: Right. Ali, that is the biggest gap that we have to get over, which is we don't want to go after longevity per se, because if you have Alzheimer's or If you're frail with so little quality of life, that really isn't the objective. But if we can maximize the years of healthy aging healthspan, that is the primary goal. Ali Rogin: And how long do you think humans are capable of prolonging that health span? Eric Topol: I think if we get people into their late 80s and 90s fully healthy without these age related diseases, that ought to be the goal. Some of these folks might even get beyond 100 years old. But if we just get over 85, age 85, that's a huge improvement because right now the average person 60 is in what we call the elderly group. These people have at least one chronic age related diseases, if not multiple diseases. So we have a long way to go to flip from the elderly to the elderly super aged people. Ali Rogin: How important are genes and family history, in other words, the factors that we can't control to predicting our health outcomes? Eric Topol: There's no question that our genes do have some role, but I think that's been overestimated. It's much more the things that are, as we know, these critical lifestyle behavioral factors at play such an essential role. Ali Rogin: The notion of longevity has become a buzzword within the wellness industry. There are any number of products on the market. What are some tips you might have for somebody looking to cut through that noise? Eric Topol: Well, noise it is. It's really a circus whereby the longevity companies are marketing anti-aging supplements that have no data. There are no definitive studies to show that these things that are being marketed right now, these various supplements, these companies, these scans, have changed the course of a person's health span.And we actually have a much better chance to prevent these age related diseases rather than promoting things that have no basis or data to back them up. Ali Rogin: The book is "Super Agers." Dr. Eric Topol, thank you so much for joining us. Eric Topol: Oh, thanks so much for the chance to talk about it with you. Listen to this Segment Watch Watch the Full Episode PBS NewsHour from Aug 02, 2025 By — Ali Rogin Ali Rogin Ali Rogin is a correspondent for the PBS News Hour and PBS News Weekend, reporting on a number of topics including foreign affairs, health care and arts and culture. She received a Peabody Award in 2021 for her work on News Hour’s series on the COVID-19 pandemic’s effect worldwide. Rogin is also the recipient of two Edward R. Murrow Awards from the Radio Television Digital News Association and has been a part of several teams nominated for an Emmy, including for her work covering the fall of ISIS in 2020, the Las Vegas mass shooting in 2017, the inauguration of President Barack Obama in 2014, and the 2010 midterm elections. By — Andrew Corkery Andrew Corkery Andrew Corkery is a national affairs producer at PBS News Weekend. By — Juliet Fuisz Juliet Fuisz