By — Nick Schifrin Nick Schifrin By — Sonia Kopelev Sonia Kopelev Leave your feedback Share Copy URL https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/russia-continues-to-link-terrorist-attack-to-ukraine-despite-conflicting-u-s-intelligence Email Facebook Twitter LinkedIn Pinterest Tumblr Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Transcript Audio The March 22 terrorist attack on Crocus City Hall killed 145 people and injured hundreds — the deadliest attack in Russia in 20 years. Russia blamed the U.S. and Ukraine despite specific U.S. intelligence shared with Russia of an impending attack by ISIS-Khorasan. Nick Schifrin takes a look at Russia’s unfolding accusations and the state of the U.S.-Russia relationship. Read the Full Transcript Notice: Transcripts are machine and human generated and lightly edited for accuracy. They may contain errors. Amna Nawaz: The March 22 terrorist attack on Crocus City Hall killed 145 people and injured hundreds, the deadliest attack in Russia in 20 years. Russia blamed the U.S. and Ukraine, despite specific U.S. intelligence shared with Russia of an impending attack by ISIS Khorasan and that group having claimed responsibility after the attack.Nick Schifrin is back now with a look at what a U.S. warning and Russia's subsequent unfounded accusations say about the U.S.-Russia relationship and Russia's intelligence services. Nick Schifrin: Before the band could take the stage, what was supposed to be a raucous concert became a living nightmare.(Gunshots) Nick Schifrin: Those they didn't slaughter, they tried to burn alive.(Gunshots) Efim Fidrya, Concert Attack Survivor (through interpreter): These screams of people, I understood, shots and screams from people who are frightened, who are now maybe dying. This is pretty hard to ever forget. Nick Schifrin: Efim Fidrya bought tickets for the rock group Picnic to celebrate his wife Olga's birthday. The shooting started as they arrived. Efim Fidrya (through interpreter): We headed toward the entrance to the hall and almost immediately heard shots. We ran down the stairs and took refuge in the toilet stall. Someone was praying. Someone was calling their loved ones, screaming emotionally to get us out of there.After a while, smoke began to seep in. We decided to leave. A girl's body lay near the escalator that led to the first floor. She was dead. Nick Schifrin: You mentioned how it helped when you heard that the terrorists were arrested. President Putin has described them as radical Islamists, but having a connection to Ukraine. What do you think when you hear that statement? Efim Fidrya (through interpreter): Considering that their behavior is different from typical radical Islamists — they did not try to commit suicide. They did not take hostages and went towards the Ukrainian border. It is possible that the official version will actually be correct. Nick Schifrin: Putin provided the initial official version. Vladimir Putin, Russian President (through interpreter): The crime was committed by radical Islamists. But we also see that the United States is trying to convince its satellites there is supposedly no trace of Kyiv. Nick Schifrin: Today, Russian investigators revealed what they said was a suspect's phone, with photos inside of iconic symbols of Ukrainian resistance and Crocus City Hall.And Russia's top intelligence officer, Alexander Bortnikov, has blamed the attack on Ukrainian and American intelligence. Alexander Bortnikov, Director, Russian Federal Security Service (through interpreter): We believe that the action was prepared by both the Islamist radicals themselves and was facilitated by Western special services. The Ukrainian special services themselves are directly related to this. Nick Schifrin: The U.S. and Ukraine both say only ISIS was responsible.Two U.S. officials tell "PBS NewsHour" the U.S. warned Russia of a possible terrorist attack and named specific targets, including Crocus City Hall. On March the 7th, the U.S. Embassy in Moscow made the warning public. "Extremists have imminent plans to target large gatherings in Moscow to include concerts, and U.S. citizens should be advised to avoid large gatherings over the next 48 hours."Despite the U.S. specificity, Russia would later call the intelligence — quote — "too general." And before the attack, Putin disparaged the U.S. warnings. Vladimir Putin (through interpreter): All these actions represent outright blackmail and the intention to intimidate and destabilize our society. Andrei Soldatov, Russian Investigative Journalist: There is a sense and a climate of conspiratorial thinking, which is quite widespread in Russian society these days, that Russia is a besieged fortress. Nick Schifrin: Andrei Soldatov is a senior fellow at the Center for European Policy Analysis and an investigative journalist who covers Russia's security services. Andrei Soldatov: They have this sense of extreme fragility of the Russian state. And they think that — again, that this state, which is extremely fragile, is under constant attack. So, even if they see and they have this evidence that the real radical Islamists are behind that attack and they caught them red-handed, they would try to develop a bigger theory that there are some hostile forces behind this facade. Nick Schifrin: Soldatov points out that Russia did make some arrests immediately after the U.S. warning. But he says Putin has created a climate where it's impossible for society to question the security services and impossible for intelligence officers to work with the West. Andrei Soldatov: People who became too close, from the Russian point of view, to the Americans and shared too much with the Americans, in terms of counterterrorism, these people were immediately punished and sent to jail.The other problem is that, if you shield your security and intelligence services from any kind of criticism, your security services will always fail you, because they feel completely impenetrable. Nick Schifrin: And so Putin's besieged fortress failed to protect its own people, the price, 145 innocent lives.For the "PBS NewsHour," I'm Nick Schifrin. Listen to this Segment Watch Watch the Full Episode PBS NewsHour from Apr 05, 2024 By — Nick Schifrin Nick Schifrin Nick Schifrin is PBS NewsHour’s Foreign Affairs and Defense Correspondent. He leads NewsHour’s daily foreign coverage, including multiple trips to Ukraine since the full-scale invasion, and has created weeklong series for the NewsHour from nearly a dozen countries. The PBS NewsHour series “Inside Putin’s Russia” won a 2017 Peabody Award and the National Press Club’s Edwin M. Hood Award for Diplomatic Correspondence. In 2020 Schifrin received the American Academy of Diplomacy’s Arthur Ross Media Award for Distinguished Reporting and Analysis of Foreign Affairs. He was a member of the NewsHour teams awarded a 2021 Peabody for coverage of COVID-19, and a 2023 duPont Columbia Award for coverage of Afghanistan and Ukraine. Prior to PBS NewsHour, Schifrin was Al Jazeera America's Middle East correspondent. He led the channel’s coverage of the 2014 war in Gaza; reported on the Syrian war from Syria's Turkish, Lebanese and Jordanian borders; and covered the annexation of Crimea. He won an Overseas Press Club award for his Gaza coverage and a National Headliners Award for his Ukraine coverage. From 2008-2012, Schifrin served as the ABC News correspondent in Afghanistan and Pakistan. In 2011 he was one of the first journalists to arrive in Abbottabad, Pakistan, after Osama bin Laden’s death and delivered one of the year’s biggest exclusives: the first video from inside bin Laden’s compound. His reporting helped ABC News win an Edward R. Murrow award for its bin Laden coverage. Schifrin is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and a board member of the Overseas Press Club Foundation. He has a Bachelor’s degree from Columbia University and a Master of International Public Policy degree from the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS). @nickschifrin By — Sonia Kopelev Sonia Kopelev