By — Nick Schifrin Nick Schifrin By — Zeba Warsi Zeba Warsi Leave your feedback Share Copy URL https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/u-s-pushes-for-de-escalation-as-india-and-pakistan-trade-fire-and-accusations Email Facebook Twitter LinkedIn Pinterest Tumblr Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Transcript Audio Tensions in South Asia are running high after India and Pakistan accused each other of firing at their respective military sites. Secretary of State Marco Rubio called leaders in both countries and pushed for what he called immediate de-escalation and direct dialogue. But there is heavy shelling on both sides of the disputed border. Nick Schifrin reports. Read the Full Transcript Notice: Transcripts are machine and human generated and lightly edited for accuracy. They may contain errors. Amna Nawaz: Turning to the day's other headlines, tensions in South Asia are running high tonight after India and Pakistan each accused the other of firing at their military sites. Geoff Bennett: Secretary of State Marco Rubio called leaders in both countries and pushed for what he called immediate de-escalation and direct dialogue. But, tonight, there is heavy shelling on both sides of the disputed border.Our Nick Schifrin has more. Nick Schifrin: In the fog of war tonight, there are blackout air raid sirens, Indian air defense firing into the Kashmiri night sky, and long lines of people in India-administered Kashmir fleeing out of fear.Today, India and Pakistan traded volleys and accusations. First, India accused Pakistan of a major attack. Vyomika Singh, Wing Commander, Indian Air Force: Pakistan attempted to engage a number of military targets in Northern and Western India using drones and missiles. Nick Schifrin: But Pakistan insists it did not fire any missiles or drones. Lt. Gen. Ahmed Sharif Chaudhry, Director General, Pakistan Inter-Services Public Relations: It is such a fantastic and cooked-up story. Nick Schifrin: But India and Pakistan did acknowledge Indian drone attacks across Pakistan against air defense systems in Lahore near India's border, Rawalpindi, where Pakistan's military is headquartered, and Karachi, Pakistan's largest city, where an Indian drone crashed into the home of Faizan Ali. Faizan Ali, Karachi, Pakistan, Resident (through interpreter): It hit my house and broke my rooftop. Everything became dark below. Everything is broken. There was dust everywhere. Nick Schifrin: The nuclear-armed neighbors have fought four major wars, three over the disputed territory of Kashmir, where in April in Pahalgam, gunmen killed more than two dozen mostly Hindu tourists. India blamed Pakistan, and overnight on Tuesday launched its most widespread aerial attack on Pakistan in half-a-century.Pakistan once again today vowed to respond. Lt. Gen. Ahmed Sharif Chaudhry: When Pakistan will strike… (through interpreter): … you and I don't need Indian media to tell us.The whole world will come to know. The reverberations will be felt everywhere. Nick Schifrin: To which Indian Foreign Minister S. Jaishankar today threaten escalation. Subrahmanyam Jaishankar, Indian Foreign Minister: If there are military attacks on us, there should be no doubt that it will be met with a very, very firm response. Nick Schifrin: But already both sides are shelling across the de facto Kashmir border. In Pakistan-controlled Kashmir, authorities say at least a dozen have died. In Indian-administered Kashmir, villagers say at least 15 have been killed.Malkeet Singh, Poonch, Jammu and Kashmir Resident (through interpreter): It is a terrible loss. We appeal to the government that there should be a cease-fire as soon as possible. Nick Schifrin: Neither side wants war, but, tonight, there's still fear of escalation, and the mood in cities near the border is darkening.For the "PBS News Hour," I'm Nick Schifrin. Listen to this Segment Watch Watch the Full Episode PBS NewsHour from May 08, 2025 By — Nick Schifrin Nick Schifrin Nick Schifrin is PBS NewsHour’s Foreign Affairs and Defense Correspondent. He leads NewsHour’s daily foreign coverage, including multiple trips to Ukraine since the full-scale invasion, and has created weeklong series for the NewsHour from nearly a dozen countries. The PBS NewsHour series “Inside Putin’s Russia” won a 2017 Peabody Award and the National Press Club’s Edwin M. Hood Award for Diplomatic Correspondence. In 2020 Schifrin received the American Academy of Diplomacy’s Arthur Ross Media Award for Distinguished Reporting and Analysis of Foreign Affairs. He was a member of the NewsHour teams awarded a 2021 Peabody for coverage of COVID-19, and a 2023 duPont Columbia Award for coverage of Afghanistan and Ukraine. Prior to PBS NewsHour, Schifrin was Al Jazeera America's Middle East correspondent. He led the channel’s coverage of the 2014 war in Gaza; reported on the Syrian war from Syria's Turkish, Lebanese and Jordanian borders; and covered the annexation of Crimea. He won an Overseas Press Club award for his Gaza coverage and a National Headliners Award for his Ukraine coverage. From 2008-2012, Schifrin served as the ABC News correspondent in Afghanistan and Pakistan. In 2011 he was one of the first journalists to arrive in Abbottabad, Pakistan, after Osama bin Laden’s death and delivered one of the year’s biggest exclusives: the first video from inside bin Laden’s compound. His reporting helped ABC News win an Edward R. Murrow award for its bin Laden coverage. Schifrin is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and a board member of the Overseas Press Club Foundation. He has a Bachelor’s degree from Columbia University and a Master of International Public Policy degree from the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS). @nickschifrin By — Zeba Warsi Zeba Warsi Zeba Warsi is a foreign affairs producer, based in Washington DC. She's a Columbia Journalism School graduate with an M.A. in Political journalism. She was one of the leading members of the NewsHour team that won the 2024 Peabody award for News for our coverage of the war in Gaza and Israel. @Zebaism