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Meet the Team: Dr. John R. Delaney
Dr. John R. Delaney, the father and leader of this expedition,
is a professor in the School of Oceanography, University of
Washington. He spoke to NOVA about his hopes and fears for his
brainchild as well as about the bigger picture: Why study
these chimneys? What can they tell us about how life started
on Earth, and how it may exist on other planets?
NOVA: Is this a risky endeavor?
Delaney: There's always a risk, I think, when you're
trying to do something no one's done before. There's not a
book we can go to to get the answer, there's no one we can
call up and say, "How strong are these things, how easy is it
to detach it from the seafloor?" There are no answers. We're
going to develop those answers ourselves as we go.
On the other side of the coin, though, I'll say there's risk
in not doing something like this. The risk is clear. There are
a lot of things we wouldn't understand if we didn't try to do
something new and different. So there's risk both ways, and I
would far rather try and not succeed fully than to have the
idea and just not pursue it.
NOVA: What was it like seeing your first black smoker
chimney?
Delaney: The first time I ever saw one of these large
sulfide structures was in 1984, and it was absolutely
awe-inspiring. It was not just a straightforward
chimney-shaped object with billowing black smoke coming out
the top. It was draped with a hanging-garden type arrangement
of lush animal growth in the form of tubeworms and limpets and
snails. It was a stunning experience, and I've never forgotten
it. It's as vivid today as it was 14 years ago.
NOVA: Why study hydrothermal vent systems?
Delaney: Submarine hydrothermal volcanoes constitute a
very primitive form of system. It is probably one of the most
common systems that existed on the planet throughout much of
its early evolution. There were few continents in the early
Earth, there were few warm, shallow ponds, as Darwin would
suggest life began in. But there were submarine volcanoes and
there was an ocean. So understanding the very basic building
blocks of life and the mechanisms by which those building
blocks come together can be attacked by looking at submarine
hydrothermal systems in a comprehensive way.
NOVA: Why bring up a black smoker?
Delaney: There's a great deal that we can learn by
simply going to the seafloor, picking up small samples, and
bringing them back; there's a great deal we can learn from
visiting once a year, maybe once every two years. But to truly
understand the system, you must observe how it functions. It
would be the equivalent of trying to understand the human body
without ever being able to look inside. You couldn't really
observe a human and say, "Well, I know how that organism
works." They wire astronauts when they put them in outer
space, because they want to keep track of how they're
functioning. We need to wire the seafloor in order to
understand how it functions.
NOVA: What will happen when you remove an active black
smoker from its site?
Delaney: In a sense, this is a controlled experiment,
in that when we detach the sulfide structure from the
seafloor, we may change the way the entire submarine
hydrothermal system behaves. Or we may not. It would be the
moral equivalent of removing one of the flutes from a large
church organ and hearing everything else go out of tune,
because you've plucked the flute. If that happens, we'll get
major new insight into the geometry of the fluid flow below
the seafloor, which is very difficult to do.
NOVA: If you succeed in bringing it to the surface,
what will you do with it then?
Delaney: We plan to dissect it. If we're to understand
how submarine volcanoes can support life without sunlight, we
have to dissect those systems and analyze them as thoroughly
as possible, and compare that with information we have about
how they behave. How does the fluid flow through the pores?
How does it deliver nutrients to the system? Those are the
things we're trying to understand.
In fact, the insights we'll gain by dissecting the entire
structure after having documented it thoroughly in place is
one of the most exciting aspects of this whole program for me.
Those two keys—thorough documentation in place and
thorough dissection—are the heart and soul of this
program. We will pore over this thing like no sulfide
structure from the seafloor has ever been examined before.
This will be the most thoroughly dissected and analyzed piece
of rock since they brought back moon rocks.
NOVA: Will you do before-and-after studies of the black
smokers you're going after?
Delaney: To truly make the most of this experiment, we
need to be able to make real-time measurements on the seafloor
before, during and after the recovery, so that we can see what
the effects are. We want to know boundary conditions on what
the environment was like prior to recovery. We want to know
what the effects are when we actually snap the structure off
the seafloor. And we'd like to know how it recovers.
NOVA: Could life on Earth have gotten its start in
hydrothermal vents, and how will we ever know?
Delaney: Ten years ago people laughed when you
suggested that life may have originated in submarine
hydrothermal systems. They're not laughing anymore. It's still
controversial. There's a lot to learn, a lot to be proven. And
it's going to be very difficult to truly examine what the
origin of life might have been. I don't honestly believe that
what we're doing will illuminate that particular issue in a
definitive way, partly because it happened about 3.5 billion
years ago, and it's a difficult experiment to rerun once life
has been spawned on a planet.
But to understand the dynamics of the system in which it might
have happened is a step in the direction of refining,
developing, and throwing out models that either work or don't
work. And that's really what science is about—coming up
with hypotheses, testing the hypotheses, and dropping like a
hot potato the ones that don't make sense or can't fit the
data.
NOVA: What does the study of hydrothermal vents and
their associated life suggest about the possibility of life on
other planets?
Delaney: The discovery that life can be supported by
volcanic activity in the presence of liquid water without
sunlight is a profound new insight—new meaning one or
two decades. Also the discovery from some of the NASA programs
that volcanoes are common in the solar system. The combination
of those two insights is a powerful guideline for the search
for life on other planets.
Recent evidence from the Galileo flight has shown quite
clearly that liquid water exists in the subsurface of
Jupiter's moon Europa. In my opinion there is also evidence in
those images for the presence of volcanic activity below the
ice. And so the presence of liquid water and submarine
volcanoes, one could argue, is a blueprint for how life may be
existing elsewhere.
The search for life beyond Earth has been going on for a long
time, but I would remind you that exo-biology is the one
business for which they have nothing yet to study. The closest
that they will come to having something to study for a few
years anyway will be, in my opinion, the systems that exist on
the seafloor. One of my great dreams, in fact, is that our
understanding of the submarine systems here on Earth will
guide us unerringly to the discovery of life elsewhere.
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