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Set 5, posted March 16, 1999
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Question:
How did the ancient Egyptians drill stone before they had
copper tools?
Richard White Madison, WI
Response from Denys Stocks, Ancient Egyptian Technologist:
In my opinion, the evidence all suggests that the Egyptians
were able to drill stone—not too-hard stone, certainly
not granite—with hollow reed tubes and sand. Now, the
sand would be dry, because if we use wet sand, that would
make the stem of the drill collapse into a solid drill,
which would be useless. They then took a bow, with an
ordinary string maybe a couple of millimeters in diameter,
and wound it round the shaft once, then put a capstone on,
which had a hollow in it, so that it could rotate. Just
apply a little bit of pressure, and gradually, the reed
moved backwards and forwards by the bow bit into the stone.
Question:
What evidence from the ancient times suggests that obelisks
were raised rather than built on the spot? What I am
suggesting is that, why not build the obelisk piece by piece
on the spot and raise it up gradually, and when it gets high
enough, use pulleys attached to the tip of an A-frame to
pull the small pieces to the top of the obelisk. The height
of the A-frame could be adjusted to a required height each
time a piece is pulled at the top of the obelisk.
Erfan Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Response from Mark Lehner:
All the Egyptian obelisks were single pieces of stone. They
were not like the obelisk of the Washington Monument in
Washington, D.C., which is composed of separate blocks of
stone.
Question:
Being a New Yorker, I read with interest in
'A World of Obelisks'
about the New York City obelisk. Do the Egyptians have a
policy on having such artifacts returned?
Daphne New York, NY
Response from Mark Lehner:
No, because—I would have to check the
records—but I think it was an official gift. And if
something is an official gift, then there is no mandate for
it to be returned. The issue of cultural property outside
the countries of origin is a bit of a sensitive one and is
often discussed. When objects and artifacts went out
legally, then there's no question about it. It's when they
go out illegally, or when artifacts end up in museums and
collections abroad and have questionable origins that you
get controversy—and rightly so.
In earlier decades, there was an official policy of dividing
finds with expeditions, so that you would array all the best
objects, and a representative of the Egyptian Antiquities
Authority and the director of the mission would sort out
what Egypt would keep and what the foreign missions would
take back to museums and institutions. That kind of
tradition is passing and it's right, as we see now, that all
excavated art objects and artifacts of importance should
remain in the country. There is so much dispersed all over
the world now that it would be almost inconceivable to call
for everything to be returned.
As a dirt archaeologist, I can say I favor a very strict
policy of objects staying in their country of origin. I'm a
bit against the market in ancient artifacts and art objects
in general, because I think it encourages illicit digging,
which represents the destruction of archaeological sites and
the trashing of information. If these sites were dug
correctly, we could read from the earth. And, of course,
once sites are dug for treasure-hunting and looting, you can
never put things back, so that you can know the story of
that site. It's also of course the case that when an
artifact is stolen, you no longer know the complete story of
the artifact beyond its value as an art object—a value
that is often very different for the modern world than that
same so-called art object might have been to the ancient
society that produced it.
Question:
Do you believe that pharaonic tombs still remain to be found
in the Valley of the Kings or nearby?
Jack Daw Isle of Man, UK
Response from Mark Lehner:
Well, I think there might be tombs left in the Valley of the
Kings. Some of my colleagues know that subject much better
than I do, and they know the evidence for which kings
they're missing. The great majority of the kings I believe
are accounted for. But the tomb of Herihor is unknown, and
he was high priest and virtual ruler of Egypt towards the
end of the 20th dynasty. There might be a few other tombs
missing, perhaps minor tombs from the Amarna period. It
would be hard for me to conclude that everything is known
and all the tombs are accounted for that were originally
made in that valley. But, like I say, others who are
actually working in the valley like Kent Weeks and others
know these questions much better than I do and obviously
they're out there digging, so there is still information, if
not tombs to be uncovered.
Question:
What is the meaning of the obelisks?
Russell Willner Menlo Park, CA
Response from Mark Lehner:
The meaning of the obelisks has to do with solar worship.
They definitely are inspired by Heliopolis, the ancient cult
center northeast of modern Cairo, which was the seat of
sun-worship, or the worship of the sun god Re.
The sacred item in the Holy of Holies in the temple of
Heliopolis was something called the ben-ben. Ben-ben comes
from an ancient Egyptian word that originally, primarily
means "to swell." The ben-ben was a conical-shaped object
like a small pyramidion. And the swelling, of course, has to
do with the rising of the sun, the swelling of the light and
so on. The Pyramids are thought to have been inspired by the
Heliopolitan ben-ben and so were the obelisks, which have
been called "pyramids on a stick" rather flippantly. The
texts all associate the obelisks in various ways with the
solar cult.
The obelisks were also put up for the pharaoh's Jubilee,
which was traditionally a celebration of 30 years of rule,
but some pharaohs could celebrate it earlier if they
chose.
And finally, my own personal take on it, which is nothing
you could prove or disprove, but just a kind of personal
interpretation, is that the obelisks stand for resurrection.
They stand in front of temple entrances. We know there were
inner obelisks in the innermost sanctuary of Amun. It has
even been suggested that there were portable obelisks that
were picked up and put on the sacred barque when Amun went
in procession to the temple of Luxor for the Festival of the
Opet, and there were sockets there that were put in place
right in front of Amun's shrine. Important people during
their funerals had their own little obelisks, and in their
tomb scenes, in which they show the funeral ceremony, these
obelisks are being set up in the proximity of the necropolis
or right in front of the tomb. So I think the combination of
the solar symbol, the Jubilee—which as a renewal
ceremony—and the use of the obelisks in private tombs,
all suggest resurrection as a kind of key idea behind the
obelisks.
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