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Ask The Behaviorist
Dogs:
Dr. Karen Pryor
answering questions Please be aware that the following
suggestions are general advice and are not intended to
be a
substitute for taking your pet to a veterinarian.
Posted February 6, 1998 |
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Question:
I have four dogs, the smallest is 5 pounds and the largest
is 50. My problem is with one of the middle dogs. George is
an 18-pound Shih-Tzu. He was 6 months old when I got him and
had been left in a cage most of the time so he had behavior
and medical problems that needed to be dealt with. He got
along well with the other dogs until I got the largest dog,
Jojo, from the pound. George is very confrontational. He
will walk into the room and just growl at Jojo until Jojo
growls back and then I must separate them or they will get
into it. As you can predict, Jojo gets the better of George
and, even when George is losing, he will go back after Jojo
after I separate them. I know that it has something to do
with territory and that Jojo is so much larger. George is
not bothered by the other two dogs who are smaller. Things
have gotten somewhat better gradually in the 4 years I have
had Jojo. I even got a fourth dog last year, a 5-pound
Pomeranian. But George ignores him. I have been told that
perhaps I should allow them to fight to establish who is in
charge but George would get clobbered. I also know I need to
establish dominance for the larger dog but, because I have
one dog in a cart whose back legs are damaged, my order of
taking care of the dogs and feeding, walking, etc. is
regulated by that fact. Is there anything I can do to reduce
George's aggressive and confrontational behavior towards
Jojo? I should mention that this confrontational behavior is
worse when I am around and I try to leave the room when it
happens. That sometimes works, sometimes not.
(name witheld by request)
Response from Dr. Pryor:
So your little dog, George, picks fights with your big dog,
Jojo. You always step in before George gets injured, because
naturally 50-lb. Jojo could clobber 18-lb. George. It's
worse when you are around than when you are not, and
sometimes if you leave the room, it stops. And this has been
going on for four years.
Well what fun for George! He can pick fights with the
biggest dude in town, because his even BIGGER fairy
godmother will save him if things start getting ugly. From
George's standpoint there is no downside to this, it makes
him feel very superior, and it sure helps pass the time and
keep things lively.
I sort of like your friend's suggestion to stay out of it
and leave the disciplining of little George to big Jojo.
Jojo seems reluctant to growl back, so he probably is not a
foolish or hot-tempered dog, and we know he is at least four
years old, so he has the wisdom of maturity. I daresay that
were Jojo allowed to finish an argument or two George would
be wiser, and perhaps not hurt at all except in pride. Dogs
have arrangements about matters like this, and it is
unlikely to be a dangerous fight.
However, I can understand why you don't feel like letting
that happen. How about this? When George starts growling,
pick him up, pleasantly, and make George leave the room. He
can spend 20 minutes in a crate somewhere else, can't he? So
what if he yaps? When he finds out there's a new rule, that
growling dogs are banished from the group, he may decide to
give up the sport of baiting Jojo. Give George a treat when
you let him out of the crate. And if an hour goes by when
all the dogs are pleasant, give them all a treat; everything
doesn't have to be negative.
Question:
Our large dog, Nagnu, lives on the Kenai Peninsula (Alaska)
with my husband and me. Nagnu's problem is whining and
chasing/barking at moose. Nagnu's typical day is spent on a
long lead outside the house, roaming around the inside of
the house (although he prefers to be outside where the
action is), riding in the camper part of our pickup (the
window between it and the front of the truck is always open,
so he can have contact with us), and running free at one of
many of his special places (fenced in airport, etc where
there are no moose) He has "a thing" for moose. They are
content to eat around our yard, and ignore Nagnu. Nagnu
barks and charges them. Tonight I had to rescue him. One of
the moose was within three feet of him and standing her
ground. His barking frustrates the moose who are just trying
to survive—to find food in the snow. One day I'm
afraid Nagnu's going to annoy the wrong cow and get the
greenie weenie. Furthermore, when we are driving, Nagnu
whines continuously—he is always on alert—on
moose patrol. Any suggestions for behavior modification will
be appreciated. Thanks.
(name witheld by request)
Response from Dr. Pryor:
Your large dog, Nagnu, has a thing for moose. I can
understand that; I'd be pretty excited if a moose showed up
in my yard, too. And Nagnu doesn't understand that an angry
moose can and will do serious harm to a dog. It sounds as if
you love your dog and want to do what's right for him. It
also sounds as if you have a Nordic-type dog—husky,
malamute, or related cross—and perhaps this is a very
young dog, going through the excitable period of adolescence
(from which some Nordic dogs never emerge, so that's not
much help.)
There are several problems here. Nagnu is sometimes tied up
outdoors. This is not a good way to keep a dog. No matter
how long the line, the dog feels somewhat defenseless, and
tends to become rather excitable and even aggressive. Nagnu
would be better off in a stout chain link pen, where moose
could not get him even if he did bark.
Also, NO dog is really safe left alone on a long line for
anything to happen. What if another dog showed up and picked
a fight? You SHOULD be prepared to run out and bring him
inside at the drop of a hat, just as you would call in a
child if a moose appeared, or a strange dog. Secondly, Nagnu
whines continuously in the car. This is distracting and
unpleasant. But scolding won't fix it; Nordic dogs are very
forgiving; and they are designed to put up with hardship, so
they pay very little attention to choke chains and other
forceful methods of control. They respond beautifully,
however, to "clicker training," or training by a "yes"
signal when they do the right thing. Have a look at some of
the free instructions at www.clickertraining.com. Nagnu
needs to learn to come, to lie down, to wait for his ride to
the park, and to be quiet in house and in the car (I'd put
him in a crate, in the car, for driver safety if nothing
else). You can shape these behaviors by rewarding the first
tiny steps in the right direction. Once the dog learns to
try to find out what YOU want, in order to get you to do
what he wants, all of your difficulties with him will be
much easier to manage. Good luck.
Question:
I have a chocolate lab, female who is 2-1/2 years old. She
is constantly gnawing at her back section of her body, just
along side her anel [sic].
She is also scratching her paws, both front & back.
I have taken her to the vet and they seem to think her anel
[sic] glands are full. This is being taken care of with
medicine, but she is still chewing at her paws. do you have
any suggestions? I feel so sorry for her. Is there anything
I can do to relieve her itching. Thanks in advance.
Ellen Simon Little Egg Harbor, NJ KissVend@prodigy.net
Response from Dr. Pryor:
Your 2-1/2 yr. old lab is constantly itching at her back and
paws. Your first step, to take her to the veterinarian, was
certainly the right thing to do. You should also make sure
she is free of fleas and mites, and that her diet is
nutritious and varied. Some dogs have allergies; and some
dogs get more skin problems as they age. Here again, your
veterinary can help. That said, it's possible that an
inactive, indoor dog, especially a young dog of a very
active breed, like your Lab, has developed licking and
gnawing as a sort of nervous habit, like fingernail biting.
Owners sometimes exacerbate this by fussing over the dog
when it licks or chews, thereby reinforcing the behavior
even more ("Oh, the dog is chewing herself, I'd better take
her for a walk!")
I'd suggest that a young dog like this doesn't need
sympathy, she needs work to do. Find some activity for her
that you can fit into your life. You may not want to take
her duck hunting, which is what she was bred for, but just
regular play dates with other dogs, or a long walk in a new
area now and then, would help. Dog agility is a great sport
for owner and dog alike, always trained positively, and
available in almost any part of the country. You yourself
don't need to be physically fit or an experienced trainer to
take up this sport. Even one class a week, and some practice
in the park, will give your dog something to occupy her
mind. Or, look into the various programs for pets visiting
hospitals and nursing homes. This would be a rewarding
experience for both of you. Any kind of shared work will
bond your dog more deeply to you, and you to your dog, and
you may see all that itching disappear, as well.
Question:
I have a Belgian Tervuren male, "Kodi," about three years
old. I also have three other dogs, two are malamute-shepherd
mixes, and one is a black lab-springer spaniel mix. Kodi
(short for Kodiak Bear), is hyperactive, and has this
irritating snorting and "smiling," and "leaning" behavior
when we are either with him outside or have him inside.
These behaviors are making it very hard for us to enjoy
being around him. If it wasn't for the hyperactivity and
snorting behavior, the smiling would be cute. When he leans
on us, you have to be careful not to fall over. Is there
anything we might be doing wrong, or is there anything we
can do to stop it? What about medication for the
hyperactivity? He's 95 pounds and too big to be that
hyperactive. Thanks for any help you can give.
Sue McHenry Waldorf, MD shenderson@olg.com
Response from Dr. Pryor:
Your 95-pound Tervuren, Kodi, annoys you by sniffing,
snorting, smiling, and leaning on you whenever you are with
him. This is owner-trained behavior. Kodi probably enjoys
being pushed away and spoken to appeasingly or WHATEVER you
do when he snorts, smiles, and leans. Plus you have three
other big dogs, so Kodi gets the most attention by being the
most obnoxious. Manners is the answer, not drugs; Kodi needs
to learn at least one behavior, and preferably three or
more, that will pay off for him without driving you crazy.
Get a noise maker, a Snapple jar lid or baby-food lid will
do. Put all the dogs outside except Kodi. Snap the lid and
toss a tiny piece of hotdog into Kodi's dish. Repeat until
he Notices the snap. Now snap the lid any time he happens to
look away from you. He will start moving away from you more
and more. If he sits or lies down, Click. Do this for a few
minutes, a couple of times a day. By and By Kodi will sit
away from you if he wants attention. Great! Give him lots
for that. He needs to learn things he can do that you DO
like; then he'll give up the stuff you don't want.
Question:
We have a rescue basset hound, Bailey, who cries (bays!)
when she is left alone with our other basset, Booker. For
example, every night when they are put in the garage at
bedtime, she bays. This is the reason we are her third home.
We will never give her up, but for the sake of the
neighborhood, what could we do about the baying? Thanks very
much.
Barbara Gose Riverton, Wyoming bgose@interserve1.cwc.whecn.edu
Response from Dr. Pryor:
Your Basset, Bailey, bays when she is left alone in the
garage at bedtime, even though the other dog is there too.
So, why not let her sleep indoors?
Question:
My dog will not let my husband near me. Everytime we
embrace, she attaches herself to his leg in a sexual manner.
If we make her stop this she growls (playing, I hope) and
tugs on his pants leg. She continues this until he stops
paying attention to me. We live in a RV so this creates a
real problem with our intimate needs. We have a dog crate
for her for these times but she whines and hollers so much
there is concern about her bothering our neighbors as well
as the distraction this creates. Please, please help us with
this problem. Our kids finally grew up and left but now we
can't be romantic because of the dog. If it helps any, I
think she doesn't want me near him-he is her favorite.
Diana G. Blackwelder Georgetown, GA dianagb@l-a-net.net
Response from Dr. Pryor:
Your dog is aggressive to your husband when he starts being
romantic to you. When you put her in her crate she carries
on something awful, which might upset the neighbors.
Just an idle question, but who is in charge here? Put the
dog in the crate. Not at romantic moments, just right now.
For five minutes. Let her holler. Let her out for five
minutes. Now put her back in. Use the clock, I'm serious.
Sooner or later she will stop yapping, if only to catch her
breath. Yay! Jump up and let her out and give her a treat.
Ignore her for a while, then put her back in the crate for
five minutes. She is going to find out that you will let her
out by and by and that you will let her out sooner if she is
quiet. She will start being quiet more often. Now, when she
is quiet, click or say good and treat her right in the
crate. You are going to teach her that being in the crate
and quiet is a good thing.
Don't be surprised if the yapping gets worse, at first. The
dog is thinking "It used to work so well, how come it
doesn't now? I'll yap harder, and scream, too." But if even
this escalation makes no difference to your five-minute
rule, by and by silence will increase. Practice this a
little, twice a day, and gradually lengthen the time you
leave her crated.
Next, any time she tries to give the human beings
instructions, by growling, pulling on clothing, or being
obnoxious in other ways, put her in the crate. She should
learn to sleep in the crate all night, and to be in the
crate if you have to go to the store. It's not a punishment,
it's just life. You have yours, she has hers, sometimes hers
involves the crate, and that's that.
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