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extraordinary rendition
Extended Interviews

Jack Cloonan
Jack Cloonan

Jack Cloonan is a former Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) agent assigned to the Osama bin Laden team in the FBI’s New York field office. He joined the FBI in 1972 and worked on the bin Laden case from 1996 until he left the bureau in October 2002. He is currently president of Clayton Consultants, a global risk firm, based in New York and California. In this interview, he discusses the case of Fazul Abdullah Mohammed, a key al Qaeda suspect in the 1998 African embassy bombings still at large. He also explains why he believes the government’s extraordinary rendition program does not work. This interview took place on September 28th, 2007.

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Bisher al-Rawi
Bisher al-Rawi

Bisher al-Rawi Iraqi citizen has been a resident of the UK since 1994. In November 2002, while traveling to Gambia, al-Rawi was detained and handed over to U.S. intelligence officials. He was then rendered to Afghanistan via Egypt, where he spent 10 months at a secret U.S. detention center near Kabul, known as the “Dark Prison,” before eventually being transferred to Guantanamo Bay. No formal charges were ever made against al- Rawi, who spoke with reporter Stephen Grey after his release earlier this year. In the interview, al-Rawi describes being held in total darkness and bombarded with music 24 hours a day. He also describes his treatment in U.S. custody, telling Grey: “Do I consider myself hurt, being tortured? Yes, I consider that….Torture is a part of the way they run things.” The interview took place on October 8th, 2007.

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John Bellinger
John Bellinger

John Bellinger joined the State Department in 2005 as the senior legal advisor to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. Before that, he was legal advisor to the president and the National Security Council. In this interview with FRONTLINE/World reporter Stephen Grey, Bellinger responds to criticisms that the Bush administration is holding detainees indefinitely at Guantanamo and elsewhere without access to a fair trial and continues to send prisoners to third-party countries where there is probability they will be tortured. "We obviously haven't got it perfectly right," Bellinger tells Grey. "But what we are trying to say is it's not as easy as critics think. What do you do when you clear out al Qaeda training camps in Afghanistan, when every single person is going to tell you, ‘I have traveled from Yemen or Egypt simply to engage in charitable good works and look for a wife?’ Should we have let every single one of them go right there on the spot?" The interview took place on May 4th, 2007.

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Lawrence Wilkerson
BLawrence Wilkerson

Lawrence Wilkerson was Secretary of State Colin Powell's Chief of Staff from August 2002 until the secretary resigned under pressure in January 2005. Colonel Wilkerson is a career military officer and veteran of the Vietnam War, as well as a U.S. Army “Pacific hand,” who served under then General Powell. He has written extensively on military and national security affairs and now teaches at George Washington University. He has become one of the most outspoken critics of the Bush administration and its national security policies, including the CIA's secret rendition program. In this interview, he provides firsthand observations of the struggle between the State Department, the Department of Defense and the Office of the Vice President. This interview took place on May 1st, 2007.

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