By — Domenico Montanaro Domenico Montanaro By — Lisa Desjardins Lisa Desjardins By — Rachel Wellford Rachel Wellford By — Simone Pathe Simone Pathe Leave your feedback Share Copy URL https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/college-degree-matter-president Email Facebook Twitter LinkedIn Pinterest Tumblr Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Does having a college degree matter in a president? Politics Feb 18, 2015 9:37 AM EDT Today in the Morning Line: Scott Walker doesn’t have a college degree. Should anyone care? Nine presidents — two on Mount Rushmore — didn’t have college degrees But just one president in the last 114 years didn’t have one How Walker’s lack of a degree might actually help in a primary ‘College’: Jeb Bush’s speech on foreign-policy will get the 2016 attention today, and we noted yesterday that Bush at some point needs to show how his handling would be different than his brother’s. But the other story that continues to get buzz on the presidential trail is the fact that Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker does not have a college degree. Liberals have tried to draw a line between Walker’s lack of a degree and his slashing of funds for higher education in the state. But how much does having a college degree matter? And will the fight help or hurt Walker? (By the way, Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul, who doesn’t have a bachelor’s degree, either, but does have a medical degree from Duke — yes, you can do that — inexplicably referred twice in one day to his “biology degree.” That sparked the Washington Post’s Fact Checker to call him out.) Walker’s not alone: For the record, nine presidents have been elected without a degree — George Washington, Andrew Jackson, Martin Van Buren, Zachary Taylor, Millard Fillmore, Abraham Lincoln, Andrew Johnson, Grover Cleveland, and Harry Truman. Two of them, you’ll notice — Washington and Lincoln — are on Mount Rushmore. The last elected without a degree, though, was Truman in 1948. He is the only one, by the way, in the last 114 years. Republican Barry Goldwater in 1964 was the last to be a major party nominee without one. Democrat Paul Simon in 1988 was the last major candidate for president without a college degree. So does any of this matter? Walker was 34 credits short of his degree at Marquette when he left. That’s at least a year of full-time work — not just a couple classes. His reason? “I kept thinking I’d go back, got married, had one kid, had another kid, next thing you know… you’re worrying more about paying for your kids’ college education than you are for your own,” he told the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel last year. As hard as it might be to believe for the intelligentsia, some 60 percent of Americans actually say they do not have a bachelor’s, associate’s or college certificate. But views have changed about the importance of a degree. Gallup found that 70 percent said a a degree is “very important,” while 23 percent said it’s just “fairly important.” That’s a switch from the late 1970s when a plurality — 46 percent — said it was just “fairly important” and just 36 percent said it was “very important.” Walker will ultimately be judged on his record: Of course, that has to do with how jobs and industry have changed. It’s much more important to have a college degree today than it was a generation ago, because factory jobs have been reduced or outsourced, manufacturing doesn’t pay as well, and vocational training has been decreased. Clearly, Walker was able to get a job and be successful, rising to governor in his home state. His lack of a degree might even help him in a GOP primary. He can use his attempt at changing the University of Wisconsin’s focus from the “Wisconsin Idea” to “workforce needs” and any kind of lefty critique of it or his not having a degree to paint a picture of himself as an anti-elitist, who didn’t need a fancy degree to make it. It’s kind of the anti-Obama, anti-academic. Instead of a “contemplator,” he’d be a “common-sense fighter.” In a general election, though, Walker’s lack of a degree could hurt with some; they might question his depth and willingness to dive into important issues and ask why he chooses some of the fights he does. It’s a gambit Walker is willing to play to get through a primary and then point to the fact that he has won in a blue state. Ultimately, Walker will be judged on his record as governor and what his policy proposals are. That will be good enough for some and too controversial for others. Daily Presidential Trivia: On this day in 1861, Confederate President Jefferson Davis was inaugurated in Montgomery, Alabama. Who is the only U.S. President to have served in the Confederate Congress? Be the first to tweet us the correct answer using #PoliticsTrivia and you’ll get a Morning Line shout-out. Congratulations to Claire M. Steen (@BearLoves14) for guessing Tuesday’s trivia: Which Chinese leader did Nixon meet with during his trip? The answer: Mao Zedong. 2016: Rand Paul is reportedly considering announcing his candidacy on April 7. Right now, he needs to convince the state GOP to hold a presidential caucus, instead of the primary, so that he can also run in the GOP primary for Senate. Jeb Bush will seek to distinguish himself from his father and brother on foreign policy during a speech in Chicago on Wednesday at 11:45 a.m. ET . …But he’s bringing on 21 people who advised his father and/or brother on foreign affairs. Bush is also picking up another Mitt Romney adviser: Former Minnesota Rep. Vin Weber called Jeb “the conservative Bush.” Millennials for Jeb, a new super PAC, is trying to get young voters excited about a Bush candidacy. Long before Bush started giving signs he was running, a small group of advisers was planning a “fundraising blitz,” Politico reports, so that if and when he decided to, he’d be ahead. In a new CNN/ORC poll of seven 2016ers, only Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren were viewed as representing the future more than the past. The latest Quinnipiac poll pits Clinton against Sen. Rand Paul in key purple states. In Colorado, Virginia and Iowa, Clinton beats Paul, but not by a large margin. LINE ITEMS Court rulings will determine much of President Obama’s legacy, the Washington Post’s David Nakamura and Juliet Eilperin report. The administration has delayed Mr. Obama’s executive actions on immigration. The White House will host the second day of a summit on countering violent extremism Wednesday. Mr. Obama penned an op-ed in the LA Times ahead of the summit, laying out the problems that still exist in fighting terrorism. Department of Homeland Security officials say that a short-term funding agreement would not help the department, and would be almost as bad as shutting down completely. Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the six-term Florida congresswoman and head of the DNC, is considering a shot at the U.S. Senate if Sen. Marco Rubio does in fact run for president in 2016. Oregon Secretary of State Kate Brown will assume the governorship Wednesday. Biden x 2. The Associated Press, and some on Twitter, wrote about two Vice President Biden moments yesterday. Mr. Obama announced Tuesday that 11.4 million people had signed up for private health plans or renewed their insurance through the latest Affordable Care Act open enrollment. Early estimates indicate red state Wyoming had one of the biggest increases in enrollment in the president’s health care program. Keep an eye on the Rundown blog for breaking news throughout the day, our home page for show segments, and follow @NewsHour for the latest. TOP TWEETS In Greenville, SC. Pastor’s speech to open congressional forum asks God to “take the fat out of the food so we’re not too bloated to listen" — daveweigel (@daveweigel) February 18, 2015 Congress's biggest vote-missers – in 2 charts http://t.co/uohbQTx6yu pic.twitter.com/z2bHAKQ7fl — Aaron Blake (@AaronBlakeWP) February 18, 2015 Niagara Falls yesterday (Lindsay DeDario/Reuters) pic.twitter.com/pr01PeHCtO — pourmecoffee (@pourmecoffee) February 18, 2015 BEAGLE BEST IN SHOW! http://t.co/3C84PSVj7c https://t.co/i57KAC5wYA — SB Nation (@SBNation) February 18, 2015 For more political coverage, visit our politics page. Sign up here to receive the Morning Line in your inbox every morning. Questions or comments? Email Domenico Montanaro at dmontanaro-at-newshour-dot-org or Rachel Wellford at rwellford-at-newshour-dot-org. Follow the politics team on Twitter: Follow @DomenicoPBS Follow @elizsummers Follow @rachelwellford Follow @sfpathe We're not going anywhere. Stand up for truly independent, trusted news that you can count on! Donate now By — Domenico Montanaro Domenico Montanaro By — Lisa Desjardins Lisa Desjardins Lisa Desjardins is a correspondent for PBS News Hour, where she covers news from the U.S. Capitol while also traveling across the country to report on how decisions in Washington affect people where they live and work. @LisaDNews By — Rachel Wellford Rachel Wellford Rachel Wellford is a general assignment producer for PBS NewsHour. @rachelwellford By — Simone Pathe Simone Pathe @sfpathe
Today in the Morning Line: Scott Walker doesn’t have a college degree. Should anyone care? Nine presidents — two on Mount Rushmore — didn’t have college degrees But just one president in the last 114 years didn’t have one How Walker’s lack of a degree might actually help in a primary ‘College’: Jeb Bush’s speech on foreign-policy will get the 2016 attention today, and we noted yesterday that Bush at some point needs to show how his handling would be different than his brother’s. But the other story that continues to get buzz on the presidential trail is the fact that Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker does not have a college degree. Liberals have tried to draw a line between Walker’s lack of a degree and his slashing of funds for higher education in the state. But how much does having a college degree matter? And will the fight help or hurt Walker? (By the way, Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul, who doesn’t have a bachelor’s degree, either, but does have a medical degree from Duke — yes, you can do that — inexplicably referred twice in one day to his “biology degree.” That sparked the Washington Post’s Fact Checker to call him out.) Walker’s not alone: For the record, nine presidents have been elected without a degree — George Washington, Andrew Jackson, Martin Van Buren, Zachary Taylor, Millard Fillmore, Abraham Lincoln, Andrew Johnson, Grover Cleveland, and Harry Truman. Two of them, you’ll notice — Washington and Lincoln — are on Mount Rushmore. The last elected without a degree, though, was Truman in 1948. He is the only one, by the way, in the last 114 years. Republican Barry Goldwater in 1964 was the last to be a major party nominee without one. Democrat Paul Simon in 1988 was the last major candidate for president without a college degree. So does any of this matter? Walker was 34 credits short of his degree at Marquette when he left. That’s at least a year of full-time work — not just a couple classes. His reason? “I kept thinking I’d go back, got married, had one kid, had another kid, next thing you know… you’re worrying more about paying for your kids’ college education than you are for your own,” he told the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel last year. As hard as it might be to believe for the intelligentsia, some 60 percent of Americans actually say they do not have a bachelor’s, associate’s or college certificate. But views have changed about the importance of a degree. Gallup found that 70 percent said a a degree is “very important,” while 23 percent said it’s just “fairly important.” That’s a switch from the late 1970s when a plurality — 46 percent — said it was just “fairly important” and just 36 percent said it was “very important.” Walker will ultimately be judged on his record: Of course, that has to do with how jobs and industry have changed. It’s much more important to have a college degree today than it was a generation ago, because factory jobs have been reduced or outsourced, manufacturing doesn’t pay as well, and vocational training has been decreased. Clearly, Walker was able to get a job and be successful, rising to governor in his home state. His lack of a degree might even help him in a GOP primary. He can use his attempt at changing the University of Wisconsin’s focus from the “Wisconsin Idea” to “workforce needs” and any kind of lefty critique of it or his not having a degree to paint a picture of himself as an anti-elitist, who didn’t need a fancy degree to make it. It’s kind of the anti-Obama, anti-academic. Instead of a “contemplator,” he’d be a “common-sense fighter.” In a general election, though, Walker’s lack of a degree could hurt with some; they might question his depth and willingness to dive into important issues and ask why he chooses some of the fights he does. It’s a gambit Walker is willing to play to get through a primary and then point to the fact that he has won in a blue state. Ultimately, Walker will be judged on his record as governor and what his policy proposals are. That will be good enough for some and too controversial for others. Daily Presidential Trivia: On this day in 1861, Confederate President Jefferson Davis was inaugurated in Montgomery, Alabama. Who is the only U.S. President to have served in the Confederate Congress? Be the first to tweet us the correct answer using #PoliticsTrivia and you’ll get a Morning Line shout-out. Congratulations to Claire M. Steen (@BearLoves14) for guessing Tuesday’s trivia: Which Chinese leader did Nixon meet with during his trip? The answer: Mao Zedong. 2016: Rand Paul is reportedly considering announcing his candidacy on April 7. Right now, he needs to convince the state GOP to hold a presidential caucus, instead of the primary, so that he can also run in the GOP primary for Senate. Jeb Bush will seek to distinguish himself from his father and brother on foreign policy during a speech in Chicago on Wednesday at 11:45 a.m. ET . …But he’s bringing on 21 people who advised his father and/or brother on foreign affairs. Bush is also picking up another Mitt Romney adviser: Former Minnesota Rep. Vin Weber called Jeb “the conservative Bush.” Millennials for Jeb, a new super PAC, is trying to get young voters excited about a Bush candidacy. Long before Bush started giving signs he was running, a small group of advisers was planning a “fundraising blitz,” Politico reports, so that if and when he decided to, he’d be ahead. In a new CNN/ORC poll of seven 2016ers, only Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren were viewed as representing the future more than the past. The latest Quinnipiac poll pits Clinton against Sen. Rand Paul in key purple states. In Colorado, Virginia and Iowa, Clinton beats Paul, but not by a large margin. LINE ITEMS Court rulings will determine much of President Obama’s legacy, the Washington Post’s David Nakamura and Juliet Eilperin report. The administration has delayed Mr. Obama’s executive actions on immigration. The White House will host the second day of a summit on countering violent extremism Wednesday. Mr. Obama penned an op-ed in the LA Times ahead of the summit, laying out the problems that still exist in fighting terrorism. Department of Homeland Security officials say that a short-term funding agreement would not help the department, and would be almost as bad as shutting down completely. Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the six-term Florida congresswoman and head of the DNC, is considering a shot at the U.S. Senate if Sen. Marco Rubio does in fact run for president in 2016. Oregon Secretary of State Kate Brown will assume the governorship Wednesday. Biden x 2. The Associated Press, and some on Twitter, wrote about two Vice President Biden moments yesterday. Mr. Obama announced Tuesday that 11.4 million people had signed up for private health plans or renewed their insurance through the latest Affordable Care Act open enrollment. Early estimates indicate red state Wyoming had one of the biggest increases in enrollment in the president’s health care program. Keep an eye on the Rundown blog for breaking news throughout the day, our home page for show segments, and follow @NewsHour for the latest. TOP TWEETS In Greenville, SC. Pastor’s speech to open congressional forum asks God to “take the fat out of the food so we’re not too bloated to listen" — daveweigel (@daveweigel) February 18, 2015 Congress's biggest vote-missers – in 2 charts http://t.co/uohbQTx6yu pic.twitter.com/z2bHAKQ7fl — Aaron Blake (@AaronBlakeWP) February 18, 2015 Niagara Falls yesterday (Lindsay DeDario/Reuters) pic.twitter.com/pr01PeHCtO — pourmecoffee (@pourmecoffee) February 18, 2015 BEAGLE BEST IN SHOW! http://t.co/3C84PSVj7c https://t.co/i57KAC5wYA — SB Nation (@SBNation) February 18, 2015 For more political coverage, visit our politics page. Sign up here to receive the Morning Line in your inbox every morning. Questions or comments? Email Domenico Montanaro at dmontanaro-at-newshour-dot-org or Rachel Wellford at rwellford-at-newshour-dot-org. Follow the politics team on Twitter: Follow @DomenicoPBS Follow @elizsummers Follow @rachelwellford Follow @sfpathe We're not going anywhere. 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