CARPENTER FOUNDATION.

CARPENTER FOUNDATION.

>> THIS WEEK ON "TO THE CARPENTER FOUNDATION.

>> THIS WEEK ON "TO THE CONTRARY" >> THIS WEEK ON "TO THE CONTRARY" FIRST, FORMER PRESIDENT CARTER CONTRARY" FIRST, FORMER PRESIDENT CARTER SAYS MOST RELIGIONS ARE SEXIST.

FIRST, FORMER PRESIDENT CARTER SAYS MOST RELIGIONS ARE SEXIST.

THEN, MARRIAGE IS DECLINING SAYS MOST RELIGIONS ARE SEXIST.

THEN, MARRIAGE IS DECLINING WHILE DIVORCE IS CLIMBING.

THEN, MARRIAGE IS DECLINING WHILE DIVORCE IS CLIMBING.

BEHIND THE HEADLINES: THIS WHILE DIVORCE IS CLIMBING.

BEHIND THE HEADLINES: THIS AWARD-WINNING TV WRITER TELLS BEHIND THE HEADLINES: THIS AWARD-WINNING TV WRITER TELLS YOU HOW WOMEN USE HUMOR TO GET AWARD-WINNING TV WRITER TELLS YOU HOW WOMEN USE HUMOR TO GET THROUGH HARD TIMES.

>> HELLO, I'M BONNIE ERBE.

>> HELLO, I'M BONNIE ERBE.

WELCOME TO "TO THE CONTRARY," A >> HELLO, I'M BONNIE ERBE.

WELCOME TO "TO THE CONTRARY," A DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL WELCOME TO "TO THE CONTRARY," A DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL TRENDS FROM DIVERSE DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL TRENDS FROM DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES.

TRENDS FROM DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES.

UP FIRST, RELIGION AND WOMEN.

PERSPECTIVES.

UP FIRST, RELIGION AND WOMEN.

FORMER PRESIDENT JIMMY CARTER UP FIRST, RELIGION AND WOMEN.

FORMER PRESIDENT JIMMY CARTER HAS CALLED OUT RELIGIOUS LEADERS FORMER PRESIDENT JIMMY CARTER HAS CALLED OUT RELIGIOUS LEADERS FOR PERPETUATING SEXISM.

HAS CALLED OUT RELIGIOUS LEADERS FOR PERPETUATING SEXISM.

IN HIS NEW BOOK, CARTER SAYS FOR PERPETUATING SEXISM.

IN HIS NEW BOOK, CARTER SAYS WRONG INTERPRETATIONS OF HOLY IN HIS NEW BOOK, CARTER SAYS WRONG INTERPRETATIONS OF HOLY BOOKS - PARTICULARLY THE BIBLE - WRONG INTERPRETATIONS OF HOLY BOOKS - PARTICULARLY THE BIBLE - ARE A MAJOR CONTRIBUTING FACTOR BOOKS - PARTICULARLY THE BIBLE - ARE A MAJOR CONTRIBUTING FACTOR TO INEQUALITY BETWEEN THE SEXES.

ARE A MAJOR CONTRIBUTING FACTOR TO INEQUALITY BETWEEN THE SEXES.

THE FORMER PRESIDENT IS STILL A TO INEQUALITY BETWEEN THE SEXES.

THE FORMER PRESIDENT IS STILL A HIS RAN THOUGH HE LEFT THE THE FORMER PRESIDENT IS STILL A HIS RAN THOUGH HE LEFT THE SOUTHERN BAPTIST CONVENTION DUE HIS RAN THOUGH HE LEFT THE SOUTHERN BAPTIST CONVENTION DUE TO THE TREATMENT MUCH WOMEN.

SOUTHERN BAPTIST CONVENTION DUE TO THE TREATMENT MUCH WOMEN.

>> PRACTICE OF RELIGION THAT IS TO THE TREATMENT MUCH WOMEN.

>> PRACTICE OF RELIGION THAT IS A BASIC CAUSE ON THE FOUNDATION >> PRACTICE OF RELIGION THAT IS A BASIC CAUSE ON THE FOUNDATION OR THE EXCUSE FOR A BASIC CAUSE ON THE FOUNDATION OR THE EXCUSE FOR OTHER ABUSES, WHERE WOMEN ARE OR THE EXCUSE FOR OTHER ABUSES, WHERE WOMEN ARE DEPRIVED OF AN EQUAL RIGHT TO OTHER ABUSES, WHERE WOMEN ARE DEPRIVED OF AN EQUAL RIGHT TO SERVE GOD AND WHERE THEY ARE DEPRIVED OF AN EQUAL RIGHT TO SERVE GOD AND WHERE THEY ARE TREATED AS SUBORDINATE OR SERVE GOD AND WHERE THEY ARE TREATED AS SUBORDINATE OR INFERIOR PEOPLE.

TREATED AS SUBORDINATE OR INFERIOR PEOPLE.

>> HE STRESSED THAT JESUS INFERIOR PEOPLE.

>> HE STRESSED THAT JESUS HIMSELF NEVER DISRESPECTED WOMEN >> HE STRESSED THAT JESUS HIMSELF NEVER DISRESPECTED WOMEN BUT LATER CHURCH LEADERS UP TO HIMSELF NEVER DISRESPECTED WOMEN BUT LATER CHURCH LEADERS UP TO THE PRESENT DAY HAVE TREATED BUT LATER CHURCH LEADERS UP TO THE PRESENT DAY HAVE TREATED WOMEN AS SECOND CLASS CITIZENS.

THE PRESENT DAY HAVE TREATED WOMEN AS SECOND CLASS CITIZENS.

CARTER CALLED FOR WOMEN TO HAVE WOMEN AS SECOND CLASS CITIZENS.

CARTER CALLED FOR WOMEN TO HAVE AN EQUAL ROLE IN CHURCH, SAYING, CARTER CALLED FOR WOMEN TO HAVE AN EQUAL ROLE IN CHURCH, SAYING, "ALL ARE EQUAL IN THE EYES OF AN EQUAL ROLE IN CHURCH, SAYING, "ALL ARE EQUAL IN THE EYES OF GOD."

"ALL ARE EQUAL IN THE EYES OF GOD."

SO GOD."

SO DEBRA CARNAHAN SO DEBRA CARNAHAN IS RELIGION SEXIST?

DEBRA CARNAHAN IS RELIGION SEXIST?

>> IT IS.

IS RELIGION SEXIST?

>> IT IS.

A CHRISTIAN TRADITION HERE IN >> IT IS.

A CHRISTIAN TRADITION HERE IN THE WEST SEEMS TO BE ODDLY A CHRISTIAN TRADITION HERE IN THE WEST SEEMS TO BE ODDLY IGNORING ELSE R ELSEWHERE.

THE WEST SEEMS TO BE ODDLY IGNORING ELSE R ELSEWHERE.

>> SO MUCH FOR SUBJUGATING WOMEN IGNORING ELSE R ELSEWHERE.

>> SO MUCH FOR SUBJUGATING WOMEN PROVIDE BY THESE RELIGIOUS >> SO MUCH FOR SUBJUGATING WOMEN PROVIDE BY THESE RELIGIOUS SECTS.

PROVIDE BY THESE RELIGIOUS SECTS.

>> A LOT OF PEOPLE USE THAT AS SECTS.

>> A LOT OF PEOPLE USE THAT AS CRUTCH TO SAY RELIGION IS ALWAYS >> A LOT OF PEOPLE USE THAT AS CRUTCH TO SAY RELIGION IS ALWAYS SECTIONIST.

CRUTCH TO SAY RELIGION IS ALWAYS SECTIONIST.

>> I WANT TO SAY IN HIS BOOK, HE SECTIONIST.

>> I WANT TO SAY IN HIS BOOK, HE SAYS ALL RELIGIONS, HE GOES IN >> I WANT TO SAY IN HIS BOOK, HE SAYS ALL RELIGIONS, HE GOES IN TO JUDAISM AND ISLAM AND HINDU SAYS ALL RELIGIONS, HE GOES IN TO JUDAISM AND ISLAM AND HINDU AND YOU NAME IT.

TO JUDAISM AND ISLAM AND HINDU AND YOU NAME IT.

SOME OF COURSE ARE WORSE THAN AND YOU NAME IT.

SOME OF COURSE ARE WORSE THAN OTHERS.

SOME OF COURSE ARE WORSE THAN OTHERS.

SOME PART OF -- FOR EXAMPLE, OTHERS.

SOME PART OF -- FOR EXAMPLE, ORTHODOX JEWS I COME FROM A SOME PART OF -- FOR EXAMPLE, ORTHODOX JEWS I COME FROM A JEWISH BACKGROUND ARE OF MORE ORTHODOX JEWS I COME FROM A JEWISH BACKGROUND ARE OF MORE SEXIST IN MY MIND THAN REFORM JEWISH BACKGROUND ARE OF MORE SEXIST IN MY MIND THAN REFORM JEWS ARE.

SEXIST IN MY MIND THAN REFORM JEWS ARE.

BUT WHY -- MY QUESTION IS, OF JEWS ARE.

BUT WHY -- MY QUESTION IS, OF COURSE IN A SITUATION WHERE YOU BUT WHY -- MY QUESTION IS, OF COURSE IN A SITUATION WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE WOMEN PRIESTS.

COURSE IN A SITUATION WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE WOMEN PRIESTS.

SOME CHURCHES DON'T EVEN HAVE DON'T HAVE WOMEN PRIESTS.

SOME CHURCHES DON'T EVEN HAVE WOMEN LOCAL LEADERS WHERE WOMEN SOME CHURCHES DON'T EVEN HAVE WOMEN LOCAL LEADERS WHERE WOMEN CAN'T DO THIS OR THEY'RE NOT WOMEN LOCAL LEADERS WHERE WOMEN CAN'T DO THIS OR THEY'RE NOT SEEN AS THAT JUST BECAUSE OF CAN'T DO THIS OR THEY'RE NOT SEEN AS THAT JUST BECAUSE OF GENDER.

SEEN AS THAT JUST BECAUSE OF GENDER.

FOR SOMEBODY TO COME OUT AND SAY GENDER.

FOR SOMEBODY TO COME OUT AND SAY IT.

FOR SOMEBODY TO COME OUT AND SAY IT.

SOMEBODY CREDITABLE TO COME OUT IT.

SOMEBODY CREDITABLE TO COME OUT AND SAY IT.

SOMEBODY CREDITABLE TO COME OUT AND SAY IT.

>> BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOMEN AND SAY IT.

>> BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOMEN ARE AFRAID TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST >> BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOMEN ARE AFRAID TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST THEIR RELODGE ON AND AGAINST ARE AFRAID TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST THEIR RELODGE ON AND AGAINST THEIR CHURCH.

THEIR RELODGE ON AND AGAINST THEIR CHURCH.

I THINK THAT IS PART OF IT.

THEIR CHURCH.

I THINK THAT IS PART OF IT.

>> SO IS IT WOMEN'S FAULT THAT I THINK THAT IS PART OF IT.

>> SO IS IT WOMEN'S FAULT THAT THEY ALLOW THIS TO CONTINUE >> SO IS IT WOMEN'S FAULT THAT THEY ALLOW THIS TO CONTINUE BECAUSE WOMEN ARE THE BACKBONE THEY ALLOW THIS TO CONTINUE BECAUSE WOMEN ARE THE BACKBONE OF EVERY CHURCH.

BECAUSE WOMEN ARE THE BACKBONE OF EVERY CHURCH.

WHY AREN'T THEY OUT THERE OF EVERY CHURCH.

WHY AREN'T THEY OUT THERE SAYING, I'M RELIGIOUS, I BELIEF WHY AREN'T THEY OUT THERE SAYING, I'M RELIGIOUS, I BELIEF IN GOD, I DON'T BELIEVE -- SAYING, I'M RELIGIOUS, I BELIEF IN GOD, I DON'T BELIEVE -- >> THEY ARE.

IN GOD, I DON'T BELIEVE -- >> THEY ARE.

I THINK WOMEN INCREASINGLY ARE >> THEY ARE.

I THINK WOMEN INCREASINGLY ARE DOING JUST THAT EVEN NUNS ARE I THINK WOMEN INCREASINGLY ARE DOING JUST THAT EVEN NUNS ARE COMING OUT SPEAKING OUT ABOUT DOING JUST THAT EVEN NUNS ARE COMING OUT SPEAKING OUT ABOUT BIRTH CONTROL.

COMING OUT SPEAKING OUT ABOUT BIRTH CONTROL.

I AGREE, IT'S AN INTERPRETATION BIRTH CONTROL.

I AGREE, IT'S AN INTERPRETATION ISSUE.

I AGREE, IT'S AN INTERPRETATION ISSUE.

WHAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT ISSUE.

WHAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT PART I DOING IS FULL RELIGION WHAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT PART I DOING IS FULL RELIGION TOPIC CAN BE CONTROVERSIAL PART I DOING IS FULL RELIGION TOPIC CAN BE CONTROVERSIAL PEOPLE ARE SCARED TO SAY TOPIC CAN BE CONTROVERSIAL PEOPLE ARE SCARED TO SAY ANYTHING.

PEOPLE ARE SCARED TO SAY ANYTHING.

YOU GET ATTACKED, IT'S REAL.

ANYTHING.

YOU GET ATTACKED, IT'S REAL.

>> FROM WHO?

YOU GET ATTACKED, IT'S REAL.

>> FROM WHO?

>> FROM THE EXTREMISTS.

>> FROM WHO?

>> FROM THE EXTREMISTS.

ANY TIME I SAY ANYTHING ABOUT MY >> FROM THE EXTREMISTS.

ANY TIME I SAY ANYTHING ABOUT MY RELIGION, SHE'S A ANTI-CHRIST OR ANY TIME I SAY ANYTHING ABOUT MY RELIGION, SHE'S A ANTI-CHRIST OR SOMETHING.

RELIGION, SHE'S A ANTI-CHRIST OR SOMETHING.

I THINK IT'S INTERESTING AND SOMETHING.

I THINK IT'S INTERESTING AND IMPORTANT WHAT CARTER IS DOING I THINK IT'S INTERESTING AND IMPORTANT WHAT CARTER IS DOING IS KEEP BRINGING ATTENTION TO IMPORTANT WHAT CARTER IS DOING IS KEEP BRINGING ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT IF WE CONTINUE TO IS KEEP BRINGING ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT IF WE CONTINUE TO SYSTEMATICALLY DISCRIMINATE THE FACT THAT IF WE CONTINUE TO SYSTEMATICALLY DISCRIMINATE AGAINST 50% OF THE POPULATION SYSTEMATICALLY DISCRIMINATE AGAINST 50% OF THE POPULATION WHICH IS WOMEN, NATIONS CANNOT AGAINST 50% OF THE POPULATION WHICH IS WOMEN, NATIONS CANNOT PROGRESS.

WHICH IS WOMEN, NATIONS CANNOT PROGRESS.

SOCIETIES WILL NOT DEVELOP THAT PROGRESS.

SOCIETIES WILL NOT DEVELOP THAT IS THE CORE.

SOCIETIES WILL NOT DEVELOP THAT IS THE CORE.

>> IT'S IMPORTANT NOT TO WHITE IS THE CORE.

>> IT'S IMPORTANT NOT TO WHITE WASH, LUMP THEM ALL TOGETHER.

>> IT'S IMPORTANT NOT TO WHITE WASH, LUMP THEM ALL TOGETHER.

>> HE'S STILL RELIGIOUS AND WASH, LUMP THEM ALL TOGETHER.

>> HE'S STILL RELIGIOUS AND BELONGS TO SOME CHURCH I'M NOT >> HE'S STILL RELIGIOUS AND BELONGS TO SOME CHURCH I'M NOT SURE WHICH.

BELONGS TO SOME CHURCH I'M NOT SURE WHICH.

HE'S GOING TO DEVOTE THE REST OF SURE WHICH.

HE'S GOING TO DEVOTE THE REST OF HIS LIFE HE SAYS TO THIS -- HE'S GOING TO DEVOTE THE REST OF HIS LIFE HE SAYS TO THIS -- >> THERE'S ABSOLUTELY ROOM FOR HIS LIFE HE SAYS TO THIS -- >> THERE'S ABSOLUTELY ROOM FOR CONVERSATION HERE BUT I ALSO >> THERE'S ABSOLUTELY ROOM FOR CONVERSATION HERE BUT I ALSO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT CONVERSATION HERE BUT I ALSO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT IN THE WEST THESE ARE NOT THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT IN THE WEST THESE ARE NOT STATE-BASED RELIGIONS.

OUT IN THE WEST THESE ARE NOT STATE-BASED RELIGIONS.

THEY ARE FREE TO HAVE A STATE-BASED RELIGIONS.

THEY ARE FREE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION.

THEY ARE FREE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION.

THEY ARE HAVING A CONVERSATION CONVERSATION.

THEY ARE HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS THINGS ARE CHANGING THEY ARE HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS THINGS ARE CHANGING IT'S IMPORTANT NOT TO SORT OF ABOUT THIS THINGS ARE CHANGING IT'S IMPORTANT NOT TO SORT OF LUMP THEM TOGETHER AND SUGGEST IT'S IMPORTANT NOT TO SORT OF LUMP THEM TOGETHER AND SUGGEST THAT IN SOME WAY WOMEN SITTING LUMP THEM TOGETHER AND SUGGEST THAT IN SOME WAY WOMEN SITTING SEPARATELY FROM MEN IN JEWISH THAT IN SOME WAY WOMEN SITTING SEPARATELY FROM MEN IN JEWISH ORTHODOX SYNAGOGUE IS THE SAME SEPARATELY FROM MEN IN JEWISH ORTHODOX SYNAGOGUE IS THE SAME THING AS REAL ATROCITIES AGAINST ORTHODOX SYNAGOGUE IS THE SAME THING AS REAL ATROCITIES AGAINST WOMEN.

THING AS REAL ATROCITIES AGAINST WOMEN.

>> IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WOMEN.

>> IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO LEAVE THEIR >> IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO LEAVE THEIR CHURCH, TO YOUR POINT WHEN YOU PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO LEAVE THEIR CHURCH, TO YOUR POINT WHEN YOU SAY YOU'RE FREE TO LEAVE.

CHURCH, TO YOUR POINT WHEN YOU SAY YOU'RE FREE TO LEAVE.

I GREW UP IN A MISSOURI LUTHERAN SAY YOU'RE FREE TO LEAVE.

I GREW UP IN A MISSOURI LUTHERAN SCHOOL AND ENVIRONMENT JUST FIVE I GREW UP IN A MISSOURI LUTHERAN SCHOOL AND ENVIRONMENT JUST FIVE MINUTES FROM HERE.

SCHOOL AND ENVIRONMENT JUST FIVE MINUTES FROM HERE.

MY MOTHER WENT TO THE SAME MINUTES FROM HERE.

MY MOTHER WENT TO THE SAME SCHOOL.

MY MOTHER WENT TO THE SAME SCHOOL.

I QUESTIONED THESE THINGS WHEN I SCHOOL.

I QUESTIONED THESE THINGS WHEN I WAS YOUNGER.

I QUESTIONED THESE THINGS WHEN I WAS YOUNGER.

I WANTED TO LIGHT THE CANDLES, I WAS YOUNGER.

I WANTED TO LIGHT THE CANDLES, I WANTED TO NOT JUST SIT WITH THE I WANTED TO LIGHT THE CANDLES, I WANTED TO NOT JUST SIT WITH THE FIRST GRADERS DURING CHURCH.

WANTED TO NOT JUST SIT WITH THE FIRST GRADERS DURING CHURCH.

BUT I WAS TOLD THAT'S WHAT THE FIRST GRADERS DURING CHURCH.

BUT I WAS TOLD THAT'S WHAT THE BOYS DO.

BUT I WAS TOLD THAT'S WHAT THE BOYS DO.

AND IT'S VERY HARD TO FIGHT BOYS DO.

AND IT'S VERY HARD TO FIGHT THAT.

AND IT'S VERY HARD TO FIGHT THAT.

THE WOMEN TEACHERS WERE NOT THE THAT.

THE WOMEN TEACHERS WERE NOT THE PAID THE SAME AS MEN, STILL NOT.

THE WOMEN TEACHERS WERE NOT THE PAID THE SAME AS MEN, STILL NOT.

>> BUT THERE ARE LESBIANS FOR PAID THE SAME AS MEN, STILL NOT.

>> BUT THERE ARE LESBIANS FOR EXAMPLE, WHO ARE CATHOLIC FORMED >> BUT THERE ARE LESBIANS FOR EXAMPLE, WHO ARE CATHOLIC FORMED THEIR OWN CATHOLIC CHURCH -- EXAMPLE, WHO ARE CATHOLIC FORMED THEIR OWN CATHOLIC CHURCH -- >> WHY CAN'T YOU ACCOMMODATE ME THEIR OWN CATHOLIC CHURCH -- >> WHY CAN'T YOU ACCOMMODATE ME WITHIN THE INSTITUTION, I DON'T >> WHY CAN'T YOU ACCOMMODATE ME WITHIN THE INSTITUTION, I DON'T THINK -- I THINK IT'S WITHIN THE INSTITUTION, I DON'T THINK -- I THINK IT'S INTERPRETATION -- THINK -- I THINK IT'S INTERPRETATION -- >> BUT WOMEN ARE THE BACKBONE.

INTERPRETATION -- >> BUT WOMEN ARE THE BACKBONE.

WOMEN RAISE ALL THE MONEY.

>> BUT WOMEN ARE THE BACKBONE.

WOMEN RAISE ALL THE MONEY.

THE NUNS EDUCATE THE KIDS TAKE WOMEN RAISE ALL THE MONEY.

THE NUNS EDUCATE THE KIDS TAKE CARE OF EVERYBODY.

THE NUNS EDUCATE THE KIDS TAKE CARE OF EVERYBODY.

THEY DO IT IN THIS ENVIRONMENT CARE OF EVERYBODY.

THEY DO IT IN THIS ENVIRONMENT THAT I SIT THERE I SAY TO THEY DO IT IN THIS ENVIRONMENT THAT I SIT THERE I SAY TO MYSELF, WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS THAT I SIT THERE I SAY TO MYSELF, WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE.

MYSELF, WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE.

FORM YOUR OWN CHURCH IF YOU FEEL PICTURE.

FORM YOUR OWN CHURCH IF YOU FEEL LIKE OR JUST LOOK AT -- FORM YOUR OWN CHURCH IF YOU FEEL LIKE OR JUST LOOK AT -- >> THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING AS A LIKE OR JUST LOOK AT -- >> THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING AS A WOMAN I'VE GROWN VERY FRUSTRATED >> THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING AS A WOMAN I'VE GROWN VERY FRUSTRATED SEEING MAJOR RELIGIONS BE WOMAN I'VE GROWN VERY FRUSTRATED SEEING MAJOR RELIGIONS BE HIJACKED BY THEIR MOST FANATICAL SEEING MAJOR RELIGIONS BE HIJACKED BY THEIR MOST FANATICAL MEMBERS.

HIJACKED BY THEIR MOST FANATICAL MEMBERS.

THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST MEMBERS.

THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS TODAY.

THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS TODAY.

WRONGFULLY HAS BEEN ONE OF PROBLEMS TODAY.

WRONGFULLY HAS BEEN ONE OF THOSE, ESPECIALLY IN OUR MODERN WRONGFULLY HAS BEEN ONE OF THOSE, ESPECIALLY IN OUR MODERN SOCIETY PEOPLE HAVE PICTURE OF THOSE, ESPECIALLY IN OUR MODERN SOCIETY PEOPLE HAVE PICTURE OF WHAT ISLAM IS WHICH HAS BEEN SOCIETY PEOPLE HAVE PICTURE OF WHAT ISLAM IS WHICH HAS BEEN HIJACKED.

WHAT ISLAM IS WHICH HAS BEEN HIJACKED.

WE GROW VERY FRUSTRATED WITH HIJACKED.

WE GROW VERY FRUSTRATED WITH THAT.

WE GROW VERY FRUSTRATED WITH THAT.

WE THINK OF HOW WE CAN MAKE THAT.

WE THINK OF HOW WE CAN MAKE CHANGE.

WE THINK OF HOW WE CAN MAKE CHANGE.

UNFORTUNATELY THE CHANGE IS VERY CHANGE.

UNFORTUNATELY THE CHANGE IS VERY SLOW.

UNFORTUNATELY THE CHANGE IS VERY SLOW.

>> I WANT TO POINT OUT THERE'S A SLOW.

>> I WANT TO POINT OUT THERE'S A GROUP CALLED KARAMA IF YOU >> I WANT TO POINT OUT THERE'S A GROUP CALLED KARAMA IF YOU HAVEN'T HEARD OF IT THAT SAYS GROUP CALLED KARAMA IF YOU HAVEN'T HEARD OF IT THAT SAYS THAT SEXIST INTERPRETATION OF -- HAVEN'T HEARD OF IT THAT SAYS THAT SEXIST INTERPRETATION OF -- OF THE KORAN IS WRONG AND THEY THAT SEXIST INTERPRETATION OF -- OF THE KORAN IS WRONG AND THEY HAVE SCHOLARS WHO SHOW HOW THAT OF THE KORAN IS WRONG AND THEY HAVE SCHOLARS WHO SHOW HOW THAT -- HAVE SCHOLARS WHO SHOW HOW THAT -- >> UNFORTUNATELY WHAT THEY'RE -- >> UNFORTUNATELY WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS VERY IMPORTANT.

>> UNFORTUNATELY WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS VERY IMPORTANT.

I THINK IN YEARS TO COME DOING IS VERY IMPORTANT.

I THINK IN YEARS TO COME ESPECIALLY IN THE NEXT TEN TO 15 I THINK IN YEARS TO COME ESPECIALLY IN THE NEXT TEN TO 15 YEARS WE'RE GOING TO SEE MORE ESPECIALLY IN THE NEXT TEN TO 15 YEARS WE'RE GOING TO SEE MORE PEOPLE FORMING GROUPS LIKE THAT.

YEARS WE'RE GOING TO SEE MORE PEOPLE FORMING GROUPS LIKE THAT.

BRINGING AWARENESS TO TOPICS PEOPLE FORMING GROUPS LIKE THAT.

BRINGING AWARENESS TO TOPICS SUCH AS THAT, LET'S LOOK AT OLD BRINGING AWARENESS TO TOPICS SUCH AS THAT, LET'S LOOK AT OLD SKIP TOURS NOT LET THE MOST SUCH AS THAT, LET'S LOOK AT OLD SKIP TOURS NOT LET THE MOST FANATICAL MEMBERS DICTATE THE SKIP TOURS NOT LET THE MOST FANATICAL MEMBERS DICTATE THE FATE.

FANATICAL MEMBERS DICTATE THE FATE.

>> YOU ARE SAYING WOMEN ARE FATE.

>> YOU ARE SAYING WOMEN ARE STRONG AND THAT'S WHY THEY FIT?

>> YOU ARE SAYING WOMEN ARE STRONG AND THAT'S WHY THEY FIT?

>> MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH IS STRONG AND THAT'S WHY THEY FIT?

>> MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH IS HAPPENING A LOT OF WOMEN ARE >> MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH IS HAPPENING A LOT OF WOMEN ARE LEAVING AND TRYING TO REFORM, HAPPENING A LOT OF WOMEN ARE LEAVING AND TRYING TO REFORM, WORK WITH WHAT THEY ALREADY HAVE LEAVING AND TRYING TO REFORM, WORK WITH WHAT THEY ALREADY HAVE TO.

WORK WITH WHAT THEY ALREADY HAVE TO.

THERE'S A HUGE MOVEMENT WITHIN TO.

THERE'S A HUGE MOVEMENT WITHIN ISLAM OF FEMINISTS.

THERE'S A HUGE MOVEMENT WITHIN ISLAM OF FEMINISTS.

THAT'S HAPPENING ACROSS THE ISLAM OF FEMINISTS.

THAT'S HAPPENING ACROSS THE BOARD WITH -- I ALSO THINK THAT'S HAPPENING ACROSS THE BOARD WITH -- I ALSO THINK CARTER IS TALKING ABOUT SOME OF BOARD WITH -- I ALSO THINK CARTER IS TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE MOST EXTREME CASES.

CARTER IS TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE MOST EXTREME CASES.

I FEEL LIKE IF YOU DO THE MOST EXTREME CASES.

I FEEL LIKE IF YOU DO CHRISTIANITY, ISLAM, DAYS WHEN I FEEL LIKE IF YOU DO CHRISTIANITY, ISLAM, DAYS WHEN ALL THE ABRAHAM TRADITIONS, THE CHRISTIANITY, ISLAM, DAYS WHEN ALL THE ABRAHAM TRADITIONS, THE EXTREMISTS ARE CRAZY, IF YOU SAY ALL THE ABRAHAM TRADITIONS, THE EXTREMISTS ARE CRAZY, IF YOU SAY MIG THEY TROLL YOU ONLINE.

EXTREMISTS ARE CRAZY, IF YOU SAY MIG THEY TROLL YOU ONLINE.

>> I WANT TO GO BACK TO WOMEN, MIG THEY TROLL YOU ONLINE.

>> I WANT TO GO BACK TO WOMEN, WHAT'S WRONG WITH SOME OF THESE >> I WANT TO GO BACK TO WOMEN, WHAT'S WRONG WITH SOME OF THESE WOMEN.

WHAT'S WRONG WITH SOME OF THESE WOMEN.

I HAVE HEARD THEM SAY, I DON'T WOMEN.

I HAVE HEARD THEM SAY, I DON'T CARE.

I HAVE HEARD THEM SAY, I DON'T CARE.

I'VE GOT ENOUGH ON MY PLATE.

CARE.

I'VE GOT ENOUGH ON MY PLATE.

>> I HEARD THAT AS WELL.

I'VE GOT ENOUGH ON MY PLATE.

>> I HEARD THAT AS WELL.

I'VE FALLEN IN TO THAT MANY A >> I HEARD THAT AS WELL.

I'VE FALLEN IN TO THAT MANY A TIMES.

I'VE FALLEN IN TO THAT MANY A TIMES.

I'M THINKING I HAVE SO MUCH TIMES.

I'M THINKING I HAVE SO MUCH OTHER STUFF GOING ON, RELIGION I'M THINKING I HAVE SO MUCH OTHER STUFF GOING ON, RELIGION IS VERY PERSONAL, MY PRACTICE.

OTHER STUFF GOING ON, RELIGION IS VERY PERSONAL, MY PRACTICE.

I JUST DON'T REALLY DISCUSS IT IS VERY PERSONAL, MY PRACTICE.

I JUST DON'T REALLY DISCUSS IT WITH ANYBODY TO BE HONEST.

I JUST DON'T REALLY DISCUSS IT WITH ANYBODY TO BE HONEST.

I FIND IT TO BE SO PRIVATE.

WITH ANYBODY TO BE HONEST.

I FIND IT TO BE SO PRIVATE.

I ALMOST HAVE TAKEN ON THAT "I I FIND IT TO BE SO PRIVATE.

I ALMOST HAVE TAKEN ON THAT "I DON'T CARE" ATTITUDE.

I ALMOST HAVE TAKEN ON THAT "I DON'T CARE" ATTITUDE.

>> YOU'RE GO TELL ME MY GOD DON'T CARE" ATTITUDE.

>> YOU'RE GO TELL ME MY GOD THINK, THAT I'M WORTH LESS THAN >> YOU'RE GO TELL ME MY GOD THINK, THAT I'M WORTH LESS THAN YOU, HAVE A NICE DAY.

THINK, THAT I'M WORTH LESS THAN YOU, HAVE A NICE DAY.

I'M TOO BUSY.

YOU, HAVE A NICE DAY.

I'M TOO BUSY.

>> CLEARLY THEY HAVE EVOLVED.

I'M TOO BUSY.

>> CLEARLY THEY HAVE EVOLVED.

THE SYNAGOGUE WHY I ATTEND IT'S >> CLEARLY THEY HAVE EVOLVED.

THE SYNAGOGUE WHY I ATTEND IT'S A FEMALE RABBI, VERY COMMON, THE SYNAGOGUE WHY I ATTEND IT'S A FEMALE RABBI, VERY COMMON, THEY HAVE BEEN ACCEPTING OF GAY A FEMALE RABBI, VERY COMMON, THEY HAVE BEEN ACCEPTING OF GAY MARRIAGE, LOT OF CHANGES.

THEY HAVE BEEN ACCEPTING OF GAY MARRIAGE, LOT OF CHANGES.

IT'S CONSERVATIVE AND I THINK MARRIAGE, LOT OF CHANGES.

IT'S CONSERVATIVE AND I THINK THERE IS MANY WAYS THERE'S BEEN IT'S CONSERVATIVE AND I THINK THERE IS MANY WAYS THERE'S BEEN A SHIFT IN SOCIAL MOTHER RAYS THERE IS MANY WAYS THERE'S BEEN A SHIFT IN SOCIAL MOTHER RAYS AND PEOPLE ARE -- THERE MAY BE A SHIFT IN SOCIAL MOTHER RAYS AND PEOPLE ARE -- THERE MAY BE SOME THINGS THAT REMAIN AND AND PEOPLE ARE -- THERE MAY BE SOME THINGS THAT REMAIN AND FOSTER BUT ALSO A LOT OF CHANGE SOME THINGS THAT REMAIN AND FOSTER BUT ALSO A LOT OF CHANGE THAT'S HAPPENING IT'S NOT QUITE FOSTER BUT ALSO A LOT OF CHANGE THAT'S HAPPENING IT'S NOT QUITE SO BLACK AND WHITE.

THAT'S HAPPENING IT'S NOT QUITE SO BLACK AND WHITE.

>> WOMEN ARE THE BACKBONE, ALSO SO BLACK AND WHITE.

>> WOMEN ARE THE BACKBONE, ALSO THE MOTHERS.

>> WOMEN ARE THE BACKBONE, ALSO THE MOTHERS.

I THINK AFTER AWHILE, I DON'T THE MOTHERS.

I THINK AFTER AWHILE, I DON'T WANT MY KID HEARING THIS STUFF, I THINK AFTER AWHILE, I DON'T WANT MY KID HEARING THIS STUFF, YOU KNOW?

WANT MY KID HEARING THIS STUFF, YOU KNOW?

>> HERE IS THE OTHER THING THAT YOU KNOW?

>> HERE IS THE OTHER THING THAT I SAW IN THE CHURCH I WAS IN, >> HERE IS THE OTHER THING THAT I SAW IN THE CHURCH I WAS IN, STILL GOING ON, WOMEN CANNOT I SAW IN THE CHURCH I WAS IN, STILL GOING ON, WOMEN CANNOT VOTE AND THEY STILL ARE PAYING STILL GOING ON, WOMEN CANNOT VOTE AND THEY STILL ARE PAYING THE WOMEN TEACHERS LESS THAN THE VOTE AND THEY STILL ARE PAYING THE WOMEN TEACHERS LESS THAN THE MEN.

THE WOMEN TEACHERS LESS THAN THE MEN.

BECAUSE THEY SAY THE MEN ARE THE MEN.

BECAUSE THEY SAY THE MEN ARE THE CENTER OF THE FAMILY AND THEY BECAUSE THEY SAY THE MEN ARE THE CENTER OF THE FAMILY AND THEY NEED TO HAVE MORE MONEY.

CENTER OF THE FAMILY AND THEY NEED TO HAVE MORE MONEY.

THAT'S JUST WRONG.

NEED TO HAVE MORE MONEY.

THAT'S JUST WRONG.

>> WITH HIM BEING AS VOCAL I THAT'S JUST WRONG.

>> WITH HIM BEING AS VOCAL I THIEVES VERY FRUSTRATED WITH >> WITH HIM BEING AS VOCAL I THIEVES VERY FRUSTRATED WITH THINGS LIKE THAT HAPPENING THIEVES VERY FRUSTRATED WITH THINGS LIKE THAT HAPPENING ESPECIALLY WHERE I GREW UP NOT THINGS LIKE THAT HAPPENING ESPECIALLY WHERE I GREW UP NOT SEEING ANY WOMEN AT THE ALTER AT ESPECIALLY WHERE I GREW UP NOT SEEING ANY WOMEN AT THE ALTER AT THE FRONT OF THE -- SEEING ANY WOMEN AT THE ALTER AT THE FRONT OF THE -- >> THERE'S A MESSAGE THAT YOU'RE THE FRONT OF THE -- >> THERE'S A MESSAGE THAT YOU'RE BEING -- IT'S NOT A GOOD MESSAGE >> THERE'S A MESSAGE THAT YOU'RE BEING -- IT'S NOT A GOOD MESSAGE TO BE SENDING TO OUR DAUGHTERS.

BEING -- IT'S NOT A GOOD MESSAGE TO BE SENDING TO OUR DAUGHTERS.

>> I SAY, OVERTHROW IT.

TO BE SENDING TO OUR DAUGHTERS.

>> I SAY, OVERTHROW IT.

LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK.

>> I SAY, OVERTHROW IT.

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FROM RELIGION TO MARRIAGE.

IS MARRIAGE LOSING ITS APPEAL AS FROM RELIGION TO MARRIAGE.

IS MARRIAGE LOSING ITS APPEAL AS A LIFE GOAL FOR YOUNG ADULTS?

IS MARRIAGE LOSING ITS APPEAL AS A LIFE GOAL FOR YOUNG ADULTS?

A STUDY BY THE PEW RESEARCH A LIFE GOAL FOR YOUNG ADULTS?

A STUDY BY THE PEW RESEARCH CENTER SHOWS MARRIAGE HAS TAKEN A STUDY BY THE PEW RESEARCH CENTER SHOWS MARRIAGE HAS TAKEN A NOSE-DIVE.

CENTER SHOWS MARRIAGE HAS TAKEN A NOSE-DIVE.

A MERE 26 % OF MILLENIALS, NOW A NOSE-DIVE.

A MERE 26 % OF MILLENIALS, NOW 18-33, ARE MARRIED.

A MERE 26 % OF MILLENIALS, NOW 18-33, ARE MARRIED.

SINCE 1960 THE MARRIAGE RATE 18-33, ARE MARRIED.

SINCE 1960 THE MARRIAGE RATE AMONG ADULTS HAS DROPPED 21% AND SINCE 1960 THE MARRIAGE RATE AMONG ADULTS HAS DROPPED 21% AND AMONG 18 TO 29 YEAR OLDS, IT AMONG ADULTS HAS DROPPED 21% AND AMONG 18 TO 29 YEAR OLDS, IT DROPPED BY TWO-THIRDS.

AMONG 18 TO 29 YEAR OLDS, IT DROPPED BY TWO-THIRDS.

BUT THE DATA ALSO REVEALS THAT DROPPED BY TWO-THIRDS.

BUT THE DATA ALSO REVEALS THAT THE DESIRE TO MARRY HAS NOT BUT THE DATA ALSO REVEALS THAT THE DESIRE TO MARRY HAS NOT CHANGED AND IS STRONGEST AMONGST THE DESIRE TO MARRY HAS NOT CHANGED AND IS STRONGEST AMONGST YOUNG AMERICANS.

CHANGED AND IS STRONGEST AMONGST YOUNG AMERICANS.

THERE ARE EDUCATIONAL YOUNG AMERICANS.

THERE ARE EDUCATIONAL DIFFERENCES AS WELL.

THERE ARE EDUCATIONAL DIFFERENCES AS WELL.

COLLEGE GRADUATES ARE MORE DIFFERENCES AS WELL.

COLLEGE GRADUATES ARE MORE LIKELY TO BE MARRIED THAN THOSE COLLEGE GRADUATES ARE MORE LIKELY TO BE MARRIED THAN THOSE WITH ONLY A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA.

LIKELY TO BE MARRIED THAN THOSE WITH ONLY A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA.

THAT GAP HAS FROM TO 16% WITH ONLY A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA.

THAT GAP HAS FROM TO 16% COMPARED TODAY FROM 4% IN 1960 THAT GAP HAS FROM TO 16% COMPARED TODAY FROM 4% IN 1960 MORE THAN 50 YEARS AGO.

COMPARED TODAY FROM 4% IN 1960 MORE THAN 50 YEARS AGO.

ANOTHER NEW STUDY CHALLENGES THE MORE THAN 50 YEARS AGO.

ANOTHER NEW STUDY CHALLENGES THE IDEA THAT THE DIVORCE RATE HAS ANOTHER NEW STUDY CHALLENGES THE IDEA THAT THE DIVORCE RATE HAS FLATTENED.

IDEA THAT THE DIVORCE RATE HAS FLATTENED.

THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA FLATTENED.

THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA REPORT SHOWS DIVORCE RATES ARE THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA REPORT SHOWS DIVORCE RATES ARE ON THE RISE AMONG BABY-BOOMERS, REPORT SHOWS DIVORCE RATES ARE ON THE RISE AMONG BABY-BOOMERS, WHILE DIVORCE AMONG YOUNG ON THE RISE AMONG BABY-BOOMERS, WHILE DIVORCE AMONG YOUNG COUPLES IS RARE.

WHILE DIVORCE AMONG YOUNG COUPLES IS RARE.

SO, ARE WE SAD TO SEE -- GOT COUPLES IS RARE.

SO, ARE WE SAD TO SEE -- GOT MIXED UP FROM THE LAST SO, ARE WE SAD TO SEE -- GOT MIXED UP FROM THE LAST DISCUSSION.

MIXED UP FROM THE LAST DISCUSSION.

MARRIAGE DROPPING AS THE GOAL DISCUSSION.

MARRIAGE DROPPING AS THE GOAL AMONG YOUNG PEOPLE?

MARRIAGE DROPPING AS THE GOAL AMONG YOUNG PEOPLE?

>> YES, I THINK THIS IS A AMONG YOUNG PEOPLE?

>> YES, I THINK THIS IS A PROBLEM.

>> YES, I THINK THIS IS A PROBLEM.

I USUALLY HAVE THE ROSY OUTLOOK PROBLEM.

I USUALLY HAVE THE ROSY OUTLOOK OF HOW WOMEN AND GIRLS ARE DOING I USUALLY HAVE THE ROSY OUTLOOK OF HOW WOMEN AND GIRLS ARE DOING BUT I THINK THAT THE DECLINE IN OF HOW WOMEN AND GIRLS ARE DOING BUT I THINK THAT THE DECLINE IN MARRIAGES IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM BUT I THINK THAT THE DECLINE IN MARRIAGES IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM BECAUSE WE'RE SEEING RISE IN MARRIAGES IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM BECAUSE WE'RE SEEING RISE IN UNMARRIED MOTHERS WHO ARE BECAUSE WE'RE SEEING RISE IN UNMARRIED MOTHERS WHO ARE UNFORTUNATELY FAR LESS EDUCATED UNMARRIED MOTHERS WHO ARE UNFORTUNATELY FAR LESS EDUCATED AND LESS ABLE TO CARE FOR A UNFORTUNATELY FAR LESS EDUCATED AND LESS ABLE TO CARE FOR A FAMILY AND BECOMING THE SOLE AND LESS ABLE TO CARE FOR A FAMILY AND BECOMING THE SOLE BREAD WINNERS.

FAMILY AND BECOMING THE SOLE BREAD WINNERS.

ONLY 4% OF UNMARRIED WOMEN HAD BREAD WINNERS.

ONLY 4% OF UNMARRIED WOMEN HAD ACTUALLY BEEN MARRIED.

ONLY 4% OF UNMARRIED WOMEN HAD ACTUALLY BEEN MARRIED.

TODAY THAT NUMBER IS 44%, SEEING ACTUALLY BEEN MARRIED.

TODAY THAT NUMBER IS 44%, SEEING REAL CULTURAL CHANGE HERE.

TODAY THAT NUMBER IS 44%, SEEING REAL CULTURAL CHANGE HERE.

>> IT SEEMS TO ME ALL ABOUT REAL CULTURAL CHANGE HERE.

>> IT SEEMS TO ME ALL ABOUT MONEY AND EDUCATION.

>> IT SEEMS TO ME ALL ABOUT MONEY AND EDUCATION.

WHICH KIND OF STINKS.

MONEY AND EDUCATION.

WHICH KIND OF STINKS.

>> BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TO THINK WHICH KIND OF STINKS.

>> BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TO THINK WE'RE COMPARING MILLENNIALS TO >> BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TO THINK WE'RE COMPARING MILLENNIALS TO BABY BOOMERS.

WE'RE COMPARING MILLENNIALS TO BABY BOOMERS.

I THINK YOU JUST CAN'T COMPARE.

BABY BOOMERS.

I THINK YOU JUST CAN'T COMPARE.

GLORIA STEIN AM SAID, WE ARE THE I THINK YOU JUST CAN'T COMPARE.

GLORIA STEIN AM SAID, WE ARE THE MEN THAT WE WANTED TO MARRY.

GLORIA STEIN AM SAID, WE ARE THE MEN THAT WE WANTED TO MARRY.

I THINK THAT TODAY MORE THAN MEN THAT WE WANTED TO MARRY.

I THINK THAT TODAY MORE THAN EVER THAT STATEMENT IS SO TRUE.

I THINK THAT TODAY MORE THAN EVER THAT STATEMENT IS SO TRUE.

WE DON'T NEED MEN FOR ANYTHING.

EVER THAT STATEMENT IS SO TRUE.

WE DON'T NEED MEN FOR ANYTHING.

WE DON'T NEED THEM FOR KIDS, WE DON'T NEED MEN FOR ANYTHING.

WE DON'T NEED THEM FOR KIDS, DON'T NEED THEM TO WORK.

WE DON'T NEED THEM FOR KIDS, DON'T NEED THEM TO WORK.

DON'T NEED FOR OUR JOBS.

DON'T NEED THEM TO WORK.

DON'T NEED FOR OUR JOBS.

I'M SAYING FOR IONS ONLY DON'T NEED FOR OUR JOBS.

I'M SAYING FOR IONS ONLY ASPIRATION WOMEN HAD, ONLY I'M SAYING FOR IONS ONLY ASPIRATION WOMEN HAD, ONLY CAREER CHOICE WE HAD WAS TO ASPIRATION WOMEN HAD, ONLY CAREER CHOICE WE HAD WAS TO MARRY AND MARRY WALL.

CAREER CHOICE WE HAD WAS TO MARRY AND MARRY WALL.

BUT NOW WE'RE MARRYING LATER.

MARRY AND MARRY WALL.

BUT NOW WE'RE MARRYING LATER.

T. BUT NOW WE'RE MARRYING LATER.

T. IT'S INTERESTING -- T. IT'S INTERESTING -- >> YOU'RE COMING AT IT FROM AN IT'S INTERESTING -- >> YOU'RE COMING AT IT FROM AN EDUCATE PER SPECK PACKTIVE, WHAT >> YOU'RE COMING AT IT FROM AN EDUCATE PER SPECK PACKTIVE, WHAT IS REALLY HAPPENING HERE THAT EDUCATE PER SPECK PACKTIVE, WHAT IS REALLY HAPPENING HERE THAT HIGH SCHOOL DROPOUTS AND LOW IS REALLY HAPPENING HERE THAT HIGH SCHOOL DROPOUTS AND LOW INCOME -- HIGH SCHOOL DROPOUTS AND LOW INCOME -- >> UNMARRIED WOMEN ARE GETTING INCOME -- >> UNMARRIED WOMEN ARE GETTING MARRIED WITH BABIES.

>> UNMARRIED WOMEN ARE GETTING MARRIED WITH BABIES.

>> WHOEVER COMES ALONG.

MARRIED WITH BABIES.

>> WHOEVER COMES ALONG.

NOT GETTING MARRIED.

>> WHOEVER COMES ALONG.

NOT GETTING MARRIED.

>> THE QUESTION OF -- NOT GETTING MARRIED.

>> THE QUESTION OF -- >> AND HURTING THEMSELVES.

>> THE QUESTION OF -- >> AND HURTING THEMSELVES.

>> THE WORST THING A WOMAN CAN >> AND HURTING THEMSELVES.

>> THE WORST THING A WOMAN CAN DO TO HERSELF FACIALLY AND >> THE WORST THING A WOMAN CAN DO TO HERSELF FACIALLY AND EDUCATION WISE IS TO HAVE A DO TO HERSELF FACIALLY AND EDUCATION WISE IS TO HAVE A CHILD OUT OF WEDLOCK.

EDUCATION WISE IS TO HAVE A CHILD OUT OF WEDLOCK.

>> YOU ALSO SEE THE BOOMERS ARE CHILD OUT OF WEDLOCK.

>> YOU ALSO SEE THE BOOMERS ARE GETTING DIVORCED.

>> YOU ALSO SEE THE BOOMERS ARE GETTING DIVORCED.

MY POINT IS, I FEEL LIKE EVEN GETTING DIVORCED.

MY POINT IS, I FEEL LIKE EVEN THE 61% ACCORDING TO THE TWO MY POINT IS, I FEEL LIKE EVEN THE 61% ACCORDING TO THE TWO RESEARCH STILL HAD DESIRE TO GET THE 61% ACCORDING TO THE TWO RESEARCH STILL HAD DESIRE TO GET MARRIED THEY'RE JUST DOING IT RESEARCH STILL HAD DESIRE TO GET MARRIED THEY'RE JUST DOING IT LATER.

MARRIED THEY'RE JUST DOING IT LATER.

I FEEL LIKE OVERARCHING LATER.

I FEEL LIKE OVERARCHING STATEMENT IS, FINDING IT, IT'S I FEEL LIKE OVERARCHING STATEMENT IS, FINDING IT, IT'S NOT A PRIORITY.

STATEMENT IS, FINDING IT, IT'S NOT A PRIORITY.

THE PRIORITY IS -- SOLVING YOUR NOT A PRIORITY.

THE PRIORITY IS -- SOLVING YOUR DOTE AND ADVANCING YOUR CAREER.

THE PRIORITY IS -- SOLVING YOUR DOTE AND ADVANCING YOUR CAREER.

>> I'LL AGREE WITH YOU ON APPLES DOTE AND ADVANCING YOUR CAREER.

>> I'LL AGREE WITH YOU ON APPLES TOE ORANGESS COMPARISON, >> I'LL AGREE WITH YOU ON APPLES TOE ORANGESS COMPARISON, MILLENNIALS AND BABY BOOMERS.

TOE ORANGESS COMPARISON, MILLENNIALS AND BABY BOOMERS.

THEY HOPE TO CHANGE THAT.

MILLENNIALS AND BABY BOOMERS.

THEY HOPE TO CHANGE THAT.

THEY ARE SAYING I DON'T WANT TO THEY HOPE TO CHANGE THAT.

THEY ARE SAYING I DON'T WANT TO GIVE UP MIKE LIE PARENTS DID.

THEY ARE SAYING I DON'T WANT TO GIVE UP MIKE LIE PARENTS DID.

I DON'T WANT TO TURN 60 ALSO GIVE UP MIKE LIE PARENTS DID.

I DON'T WANT TO TURN 60 ALSO TAKE ON THE NEW CHAPTER AND A I DON'T WANT TO TURN 60 ALSO TAKE ON THE NEW CHAPTER AND A NEW LOVER OR NEW SPOUSE.

TAKE ON THE NEW CHAPTER AND A NEW LOVER OR NEW SPOUSE.

>> DID THE PARENTS GIVE UP OR I NEW LOVER OR NEW SPOUSE.

>> DID THE PARENTS GIVE UP OR I GOT MARCHED WHEN I WAS 20 NOW >> DID THE PARENTS GIVE UP OR I GOT MARCHED WHEN I WAS 20 NOW I'M 60.

GOT MARCHED WHEN I WAS 20 NOW I'M 60.

>> WE HAVE MORE OPTIONS.

I'M 60.

>> WE HAVE MORE OPTIONS.

>> NOT LIKE CONSERVATIVE >> WE HAVE MORE OPTIONS.

>> NOT LIKE CONSERVATIVE PERSPECTIVE.

>> NOT LIKE CONSERVATIVE PERSPECTIVE.

THIS IS AN ECONOMIC ONE, TOO.

PERSPECTIVE.

THIS IS AN ECONOMIC ONE, TOO.

THERE'S A GREAT WHO SAID, THIS IS AN ECONOMIC ONE, TOO.

THERE'S A GREAT WHO SAID, ECONOMICS YOU CAN LOOK AT COST THERE'S A GREAT WHO SAID, ECONOMICS YOU CAN LOOK AT COST AND BENEFIT.

ECONOMICS YOU CAN LOOK AT COST AND BENEFIT.

TOO OFTEN WITH MARRIAGE WE TALK AND BENEFIT.

TOO OFTEN WITH MARRIAGE WE TALK ABOUT THE COST THERE.

TOO OFTEN WITH MARRIAGE WE TALK ABOUT THE COST THERE.

IS ACTUALLY VERY SERIOUS ABOUT THE COST THERE.

IS ACTUALLY VERY SERIOUS IMPORTANT BENEFIT BOTH AT THE IS ACTUALLY VERY SERIOUS IMPORTANT BENEFIT BOTH AT THE INDIVIDUAL LEVEL AND MARRIAGE IMPORTANT BENEFIT BOTH AT THE INDIVIDUAL LEVEL AND MARRIAGE PROVIDES A SECOND INCOME MANY INDIVIDUAL LEVEL AND MARRIAGE PROVIDES A SECOND INCOME MANY TIMESA SAFETY NET, PROVIDES PROVIDES A SECOND INCOME MANY TIMESA SAFETY NET, PROVIDES SUPPORT.

TIMESA SAFETY NET, PROVIDES SUPPORT.

SOCIETAL LEVEL JUST BECAUSE WE SUPPORT.

SOCIETAL LEVEL JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE MARRIAGE DOESN'T MEAN SOCIETAL LEVEL JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE MARRIAGE DOESN'T MEAN THAT ALL OF THOSE THINGS DON'T DON'T HAVE MARRIAGE DOESN'T MEAN THAT ALL OF THOSE THINGS DON'T NEED TO BE FULFILLED.

THAT ALL OF THOSE THINGS DON'T NEED TO BE FULFILLED.

WHAT STEPS IN WHEN A SPOUSE DOS NEED TO BE FULFILLED.

WHAT STEPS IN WHEN A SPOUSE DOS NOT.

WHAT STEPS IN WHEN A SPOUSE DOS NOT.

>> WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS FROM A NOT.

>> WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS FROM A WOMAN'S PERSPECTIVE.

>> WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS FROM A WOMAN'S PERSPECTIVE.

ARE THEY THE ONES CHOOSING TO WOMAN'S PERSPECTIVE.

ARE THEY THE ONES CHOOSING TO GET THE FORCE?

ARE THEY THE ONES CHOOSING TO GET THE FORCE?

ARE THE MEN THE ONES CHOOSING TO GET THE FORCE?

ARE THE MEN THE ONES CHOOSING TO GETS THE DIVORCE.

ARE THE MEN THE ONES CHOOSING TO GETS THE DIVORCE.

WHO IS INSTIGATING THIS?

GETS THE DIVORCE.

WHO IS INSTIGATING THIS?

WE HAVE LOT OF UNHAPPY ABUSIVE WHO IS INSTIGATING THIS?

WE HAVE LOT OF UNHAPPY ABUSIVE MARRIAGES IN THE PAST THAT WOMEN WE HAVE LOT OF UNHAPPY ABUSIVE MARRIAGES IN THE PAST THAT WOMEN COULD NOT GET IT OF.

MARRIAGES IN THE PAST THAT WOMEN COULD NOT GET IT OF.

>> MAYBE THIS ISN'T AS SCARY AND COULD NOT GET IT OF.

>> MAYBE THIS ISN'T AS SCARY AND SHOCKING AS IT SEEMS BUT I DO >> MAYBE THIS ISN'T AS SCARY AND SHOCKING AS IT SEEMS BUT I DO AGREE WITH BONNIE THAT THERE IS SHOCKING AS IT SEEMS BUT I DO AGREE WITH BONNIE THAT THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH YOUNG WOMEN AGREE WITH BONNIE THAT THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH YOUNG WOMEN HAVING CHILDREN OUT OF WEDLOCK.

A PROBLEM WITH YOUNG WOMEN HAVING CHILDREN OUT OF WEDLOCK.

>> THERE'S NO STIGMA ANY MORE HAVING CHILDREN OUT OF WEDLOCK.

>> THERE'S NO STIGMA ANY MORE AND THE GRANDPARENTS GOAT SO >> THERE'S NO STIGMA ANY MORE AND THE GRANDPARENTS GOAT SO EXCITED.

AND THE GRANDPARENTS GOAT SO EXCITED.

I THINK ALL THAT WONDERFUL BUT I EXCITED.

I THINK ALL THAT WONDERFUL BUT I REALLY WISH -- I THINK ALL THAT WONDERFUL BUT I REALLY WISH -- >> 16 AND PREGNANT.

REALLY WISH -- >> 16 AND PREGNANT.

>> UNFORTUNATELY I THINK THERE >> 16 AND PREGNANT.

>> UNFORTUNATELY I THINK THERE IS STILL A STIGMA, ESPECIALLY >> UNFORTUNATELY I THINK THERE IS STILL A STIGMA, ESPECIALLY TALK ABOUT THE CLASSES, MIDDLE IS STILL A STIGMA, ESPECIALLY TALK ABOUT THE CLASSES, MIDDLE CLASS FAMILY AND DAUGHTER COMES TALK ABOUT THE CLASSES, MIDDLE CLASS FAMILY AND DAUGHTER COMES HOME AT 16 AND PREGNANT THERE IS CLASS FAMILY AND DAUGHTER COMES HOME AT 16 AND PREGNANT THERE IS A HUGE FEELING THAT THE DAUGHTER HOME AT 16 AND PREGNANT THERE IS A HUGE FEELING THAT THE DAUGHTER HAS FAILED BY NOT FINISHING HIGH A HUGE FEELING THAT THE DAUGHTER HAS FAILED BY NOT FINISHING HIGH SCHOOL AND GETTING PREGNANT HAS FAILED BY NOT FINISHING HIGH SCHOOL AND GETTING PREGNANT BEFORE FINISHING HIGH SCHOOL.

SCHOOL AND GETTING PREGNANT BEFORE FINISHING HIGH SCHOOL.

BUT I WANT TO GO TO UPWARD BEFORE FINISHING HIGH SCHOOL.

BUT I WANT TO GO TO UPWARD MOBILITY FOR A MOMENT.

BUT I WANT TO GO TO UPWARD MOBILITY FOR A MOMENT.

AS WOMAN WHO NOW AT THE AGE 306 MOBILITY FOR A MOMENT.

AS WOMAN WHO NOW AT THE AGE 306 GETTING MARRIED LATER THIS YEAR, AS WOMAN WHO NOW AT THE AGE 306 GETTING MARRIED LATER THIS YEAR, I'LL TELL YOU I HAVE NOT THOUGHT GETTING MARRIED LATER THIS YEAR, I'LL TELL YOU I HAVE NOT THOUGHT THAT I NEEDED A SECOND INCOME.

I'LL TELL YOU I HAVE NOT THOUGHT THAT I NEEDED A SECOND INCOME.

I THOUGHT I GOT IT ON MY OWN F. THAT I NEEDED A SECOND INCOME.

I THOUGHT I GOT IT ON MY OWN F. I'M NOT HAPPY WITH THE MAN I THOUGHT I GOT IT ON MY OWN F. I'M NOT HAPPY WITH THE MAN THERE'S NO NEED TO SETTLE DOWN.

I'M NOT HAPPY WITH THE MAN THERE'S NO NEED TO SETTLE DOWN.

>> WOMEN ARE SORT OF THIS -- YOU THERE'S NO NEED TO SETTLE DOWN.

>> WOMEN ARE SORT OF THIS -- YOU HAVE TWO WOMEN HAVE MORE CHOICES >> WOMEN ARE SORT OF THIS -- YOU HAVE TWO WOMEN HAVE MORE CHOICES BUT THAT'S JUST RESULTS IN HAVE TWO WOMEN HAVE MORE CHOICES BUT THAT'S JUST RESULTS IN POSITIVE SOCIAL CHANGE.

BUT THAT'S JUST RESULTS IN POSITIVE SOCIAL CHANGE.

NOT NEGATIVE SOCIAL CHANGE.

POSITIVE SOCIAL CHANGE.

NOT NEGATIVE SOCIAL CHANGE.

WHAT IS GOING ON HERE, SHARE NOT NEGATIVE SOCIAL CHANGE.

WHAT IS GOING ON HERE, SHARE THOUGHTS, PLEASE, THE GAP WHAT IS GOING ON HERE, SHARE THOUGHTS, PLEASE, THE GAP BETWEEN RICH AND POOR IS GROWING THOUGHTS, PLEASE, THE GAP BETWEEN RICH AND POOR IS GROWING SO QUICKLY, THE GAP IN EDUCATION BETWEEN RICH AND POOR IS GROWING SO QUICKLY, THE GAP IN EDUCATION IS GROWING SO QUICKLY IT'S SO QUICKLY, THE GAP IN EDUCATION IS GROWING SO QUICKLY IT'S REALLY HURTING WOMEN.

IS GROWING SO QUICKLY IT'S REALLY HURTING WOMEN.

>> I THINK WHAT IS BEING ELUDED REALLY HURTING WOMEN.

>> I THINK WHAT IS BEING ELUDED TO NOT TALKING ABOUT WOMEN AT >> I THINK WHAT IS BEING ELUDED TO NOT TALKING ABOUT WOMEN AT THIS TABLE BUT WOMEN WHO DON'T TO NOT TALKING ABOUT WOMEN AT THIS TABLE BUT WOMEN WHO DON'T HAVE A FAMILY TO COME HOME TO, THIS TABLE BUT WOMEN WHO DON'T HAVE A FAMILY TO COME HOME TO, WHO AREN'T GOING TO SHAME THEM HAVE A FAMILY TO COME HOME TO, WHO AREN'T GOING TO SHAME THEM FOR.

WHO AREN'T GOING TO SHAME THEM FOR.

THIS IN FACT INSTEAD OF PUSHING FOR.

THIS IN FACT INSTEAD OF PUSHING MARRIAGE AS NOT ONLY SORT OF THIS IN FACT INSTEAD OF PUSHING MARRIAGE AS NOT ONLY SORT OF RESPONSE BUT SOMETHING THAT WE MARRIAGE AS NOT ONLY SORT OF RESPONSE BUT SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE FAMILIAR SIZING, WE RESPONSE BUT SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE FAMILIAR SIZING, WE PUSH GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS SHOULD BE FAMILIAR SIZING, WE PUSH GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS INSTEAD.

PUSH GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS INSTEAD.

THAT ACTUALLY FURTHER ENCOURAGES INSTEAD.

THAT ACTUALLY FURTHER ENCOURAGES THESE WOMEN TO BE IN SORT OF THAT ACTUALLY FURTHER ENCOURAGES THESE WOMEN TO BE IN SORT OF CYCLE OF DEBT AND POVERTY.

THESE WOMEN TO BE IN SORT OF CYCLE OF DEBT AND POVERTY.

>> AND RELIANCE.

CYCLE OF DEBT AND POVERTY.

>> AND RELIANCE.

>> RATHER THAN SAYING, YOU CAN >> AND RELIANCE.

>> RATHER THAN SAYING, YOU CAN BUILD SOMETHING AND IT'S EASIER >> RATHER THAN SAYING, YOU CAN BUILD SOMETHING AND IT'S EASIER WHEN THERE'S TWO OF YOU.

BUILD SOMETHING AND IT'S EASIER WHEN THERE'S TWO OF YOU.

>> I THINK WE OUGHT TO PUSH ONE WHEN THERE'S TWO OF YOU.

>> I THINK WE OUGHT TO PUSH ONE GOVERNMENT PROGRAM THAT IS >> I THINK WE OUGHT TO PUSH ONE GOVERNMENT PROGRAM THAT IS HAPPENING OUT CONDOMS AND BIRTH GOVERNMENT PROGRAM THAT IS HAPPENING OUT CONDOMS AND BIRTH CONTROL.

HAPPENING OUT CONDOMS AND BIRTH CONTROL.

>> THAT'S REALLY GOOD ONE.

CONTROL.

>> THAT'S REALLY GOOD ONE.

>> TO UNWED MOTHER SITUATION.

>> THAT'S REALLY GOOD ONE.

>> TO UNWED MOTHER SITUATION.

>> I A DEGREE.

>> TO UNWED MOTHER SITUATION.

>> I A DEGREE.

A LOT OF THIS, WE'RE NOT TALKING >> I A DEGREE.

A LOT OF THIS, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT IS RESULT OF YEARS, ALMOST A LOT OF THIS, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT IS RESULT OF YEARS, ALMOST A DECADE OF ABSTINENCE ONLY ABOUT IS RESULT OF YEARS, ALMOST A DECADE OF ABSTINENCE ONLY EDUCATION.

A DECADE OF ABSTINENCE ONLY EDUCATION.

THE POORER WOMEN AND GIRLS ARE EDUCATION.

THE POORER WOMEN AND GIRLS ARE THE ONES WHO DON'T HAVE ACTRESS THE POORER WOMEN AND GIRLS ARE THE ONES WHO DON'T HAVE ACTRESS TO CONTRACEPTION OR KNOWLEDGE THE ONES WHO DON'T HAVE ACTRESS TO CONTRACEPTION OR KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THEM.

TO CONTRACEPTION OR KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THEM.

>> PARENTHOOD IS ALL OVER THE ABOUT THEM.

>> PARENTHOOD IS ALL OVER THE PLACE I'M NOT SURE I COMPLETELY >> PARENTHOOD IS ALL OVER THE PLACE I'M NOT SURE I COMPLETELY -- PLACE I'M NOT SURE I COMPLETELY -- >> A BIGGER PROBLEM, HONESTLY -- >> A BIGGER PROBLEM, HONESTLY EARLIER -- >> A BIGGER PROBLEM, HONESTLY EARLIER -- >> NOT ONLY FOR THE -- EARLIER -- >> NOT ONLY FOR THE -- >> WELL -- >> NOT ONLY FOR THE -- >> WELL -- >> IT HAS TO BE COMPLETELY >> WELL -- >> IT HAS TO BE COMPLETELY DEFUNDED.

>> IT HAS TO BE COMPLETELY DEFUNDED.

>> I'M HAPPY IT EXISTS.

DEFUNDED.

>> I'M HAPPY IT EXISTS.

AS SOMEBODY ON THE OTHER SIDE >> I'M HAPPY IT EXISTS.

AS SOMEBODY ON THE OTHER SIDE I'M HAPPY PLANNED PARENT EXISTS.

AS SOMEBODY ON THE OTHER SIDE I'M HAPPY PLANNED PARENT EXISTS.

THERE ARE WOMEN WHO CANNOT I'M HAPPY PLANNED PARENT EXISTS.

THERE ARE WOMEN WHO CANNOT AFFORD TO GO TO PHARMACY AND BUY THERE ARE WOMEN WHO CANNOT AFFORD TO GO TO PHARMACY AND BUY THOSE CONTRACEPTIVE DEVICES.

AFFORD TO GO TO PHARMACY AND BUY THOSE CONTRACEPTIVE DEVICES.

AND MID IN THAT COMES WITH IT.

THOSE CONTRACEPTIVE DEVICES.

AND MID IN THAT COMES WITH IT.

IT'S GOOD FOR THAT.

AND MID IN THAT COMES WITH IT.

IT'S GOOD FOR THAT.

I THINK THAT IS FINE IF YOU IT'S GOOD FOR THAT.

I THINK THAT IS FINE IF YOU BELIEVE IN THAT, GO GET IT.

I THINK THAT IS FINE IF YOU BELIEVE IN THAT, GO GET IT.

>> LAST WORD.

BELIEVE IN THAT, GO GET IT.

>> LAST WORD.

>> TO YOUR POINT EARLIER WE >> LAST WORD.

>> TO YOUR POINT EARLIER WE CANNOT IGNORE THE IMPACT OF >> TO YOUR POINT EARLIER WE CANNOT IGNORE THE IMPACT OF SOMEONE LIKE GLORIA STEINAM.

CANNOT IGNORE THE IMPACT OF SOMEONE LIKE GLORIA STEINAM.

THERE WAS THIS IDEA THAT YOU SOMEONE LIKE GLORIA STEINAM.

THERE WAS THIS IDEA THAT YOU COULDN'T TRULY BE EQUAL, THERE WAS THIS IDEA THAT YOU COULDN'T TRULY BE EQUAL, COULDN'T BE FREE UNLESS YOU WERE COULDN'T TRULY BE EQUAL, COULDN'T BE FREE UNLESS YOU WERE WITHOUT A MAN.

COULDN'T BE FREE UNLESS YOU WERE WITHOUT A MAN.

BUT KNOWS SENTIMENTS MAY HAVE WITHOUT A MAN.

BUT KNOWS SENTIMENTS MAY HAVE BEEN RADICAL BUT LONG TERM BUT KNOWS SENTIMENTS MAY HAVE BEEN RADICAL BUT LONG TERM CONSEQUENCES.

BEEN RADICAL BUT LONG TERM CONSEQUENCES.

>> YOU'RE NOT FREE UNLESS YOU CONSEQUENCES.

>> YOU'RE NOT FREE UNLESS YOU COULD CONTROL YOUR OWN BODY.

>> YOU'RE NOT FREE UNLESS YOU COULD CONTROL YOUR OWN BODY.

>> YOU'RE NOT TRULY EMPOWERED COULD CONTROL YOUR OWN BODY.

>> YOU'RE NOT TRULY EMPOWERED UNLESS YOU HAVE CONTROL OVER >> YOU'RE NOT TRULY EMPOWERED UNLESS YOU HAVE CONTROL OVER YOUR REPRODUCTION.

UNLESS YOU HAVE CONTROL OVER YOUR REPRODUCTION.

>> ALL RIGHT.

YOUR REPRODUCTION.

>> ALL RIGHT.

BEHIND THE HEADLINES: >> ALL RIGHT.

BEHIND THE HEADLINES: HOW TELEVISION TREATS FEMALE BEHIND THE HEADLINES: HOW TELEVISION TREATS FEMALE WRITERS AND PRODUCERS.

HOW TELEVISION TREATS FEMALE WRITERS AND PRODUCERS.

WOMEN ARE BETTER REPRESENTED WRITERS AND PRODUCERS.

WOMEN ARE BETTER REPRESENTED BEHIND THE SCENES IN TV THAN IN WOMEN ARE BETTER REPRESENTED BEHIND THE SCENES IN TV THAN IN THE MOVIES.

BEHIND THE SCENES IN TV THAN IN THE MOVIES.

ONE EXAMPLE: CINDY CHUPACK, A THE MOVIES.

ONE EXAMPLE: CINDY CHUPACK, A GOLDEN GLOBE AND EMMY AWARD ONE EXAMPLE: CINDY CHUPACK, A GOLDEN GLOBE AND EMMY AWARD WINNING PRODUCER AND GOLDEN GLOBE AND EMMY AWARD WINNING PRODUCER AND SCREENWRITER, SHE SPOKE WITH "TO WINNING PRODUCER AND SCREENWRITER, SHE SPOKE WITH "TO THE CONTRARY" ABOUT HER SCREENWRITER, SHE SPOKE WITH "TO THE CONTRARY" ABOUT HER NEWEST-BOOK-TURNED-TV-SHOW.

THE CONTRARY" ABOUT HER NEWEST-BOOK-TURNED-TV-SHOW.

>> HUMOR IS DEFINITELY MY COPING NEWEST-BOOK-TURNED-TV-SHOW.

>> HUMOR IS DEFINITELY MY COPING MECHANISM AND IT'S A WAY I THINK >> HUMOR IS DEFINITELY MY COPING MECHANISM AND IT'S A WAY I THINK TO HELP OTHERS.

MECHANISM AND IT'S A WAY I THINK TO HELP OTHERS.

>> YOU MAY NOT KNOW HER NAME, TO HELP OTHERS.

>> YOU MAY NOT KNOW HER NAME, BUT YOU HAVE PROBABLY LAUGHED AT >> YOU MAY NOT KNOW HER NAME, BUT YOU HAVE PROBABLY LAUGHED AT SOME OF CINDY CHUPACK'S JOKES.

BUT YOU HAVE PROBABLY LAUGHED AT SOME OF CINDY CHUPACK'S JOKES.

SHE WAS A WRITER AND PRODUCER SOME OF CINDY CHUPACK'S JOKES.

SHE WAS A WRITER AND PRODUCER FOR SUCCESSFUL SHOWS INCLUDING SHE WAS A WRITER AND PRODUCER FOR SUCCESSFUL SHOWS INCLUDING "SEX AND THE CITY", "EVERYBODY FOR SUCCESSFUL SHOWS INCLUDING "SEX AND THE CITY", "EVERYBODY LOVES RAYMOND", AND "MODERN "SEX AND THE CITY", "EVERYBODY LOVES RAYMOND", AND "MODERN FAMILY".

LOVES RAYMOND", AND "MODERN FAMILY".

AND IT'S THAT SAME SENSE OF FAMILY".

AND IT'S THAT SAME SENSE OF HUMOR THAT CARRIES HER THROUGH AND IT'S THAT SAME SENSE OF HUMOR THAT CARRIES HER THROUGH TOUGH TIMES.

HUMOR THAT CARRIES HER THROUGH TOUGH TIMES.

>> COMEDY IS JUST THE BEST WAY TOUGH TIMES.

>> COMEDY IS JUST THE BEST WAY TO GET OVER SOME OF THESE >> COMEDY IS JUST THE BEST WAY TO GET OVER SOME OF THESE TOUGHER SUBJECTS.

TO GET OVER SOME OF THESE TOUGHER SUBJECTS.

I THINK WOMEN FOR A LONGER TIME TOUGHER SUBJECTS.

I THINK WOMEN FOR A LONGER TIME HAVE BEEN MINING OUR OWN LIVES I THINK WOMEN FOR A LONGER TIME HAVE BEEN MINING OUR OWN LIVES FOR COMEDY.

HAVE BEEN MINING OUR OWN LIVES FOR COMEDY.

AND HAVE BEEN WILLING TO LAUGH FOR COMEDY.

AND HAVE BEEN WILLING TO LAUGH AT OURSELVES, IN A WAY THAT AND HAVE BEEN WILLING TO LAUGH AT OURSELVES, IN A WAY THAT SOMETIMES THAT IS NOT AT OURSELVES, IN A WAY THAT SOMETIMES THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY WHERE MEN'S COMEDY SOMETIMES THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY WHERE MEN'S COMEDY COMES FROM.

NECESSARILY WHERE MEN'S COMEDY COMES FROM.

>> IN HER NEW BOOK ABOUT COMES FROM.

>> IN HER NEW BOOK ABOUT MARRIAGE, "THE LONGEST DATE", >> IN HER NEW BOOK ABOUT MARRIAGE, "THE LONGEST DATE", CHUPACK PUTS HER OWN LIFE ON MARRIAGE, "THE LONGEST DATE", CHUPACK PUTS HER OWN LIFE ON DISPLAY.

CHUPACK PUTS HER OWN LIFE ON DISPLAY.

SHE TELLS STORIES OF HER DISPLAY.

SHE TELLS STORIES OF HER IMPERFECT ROMANCE.

SHE TELLS STORIES OF HER IMPERFECT ROMANCE.

>> PEOPLE SAY WOW, YOUR MARRIAGE IMPERFECT ROMANCE.

>> PEOPLE SAY WOW, YOUR MARRIAGE IS LIKE A LONG DATE?

>> PEOPLE SAY WOW, YOUR MARRIAGE IS LIKE A LONG DATE?

AND I SAY, WELL IT'S NOT CLEAR IS LIKE A LONG DATE?

AND I SAY, WELL IT'S NOT CLEAR IF IT'S A GOOD OR BAD DATE, BUT AND I SAY, WELL IT'S NOT CLEAR IF IT'S A GOOD OR BAD DATE, BUT IT'S A LONG ONE.

IF IT'S A GOOD OR BAD DATE, BUT IT'S A LONG ONE.

MY HUSBAND EVEN SAID, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LONG ONE.

MY HUSBAND EVEN SAID, YOU KNOW, IF YOU PUT OUT A BOOK ABOUT WHAT MY HUSBAND EVEN SAID, YOU KNOW, IF YOU PUT OUT A BOOK ABOUT WHAT A GREAT COUPLE WE ARE AND IF YOU PUT OUT A BOOK ABOUT WHAT A GREAT COUPLE WE ARE AND SOMETHING HAPPENS, WE BREAK UP, A GREAT COUPLE WE ARE AND SOMETHING HAPPENS, WE BREAK UP, YOU ARE GOING TO FEEL SILLY.

SOMETHING HAPPENS, WE BREAK UP, YOU ARE GOING TO FEEL SILLY.

AND I SAID, IT'S NOT A BOOK YOU ARE GOING TO FEEL SILLY.

AND I SAID, IT'S NOT A BOOK ABOUT WHAT A GREAT COUPLE WE AND I SAID, IT'S NOT A BOOK ABOUT WHAT A GREAT COUPLE WE ARE.

ABOUT WHAT A GREAT COUPLE WE ARE.

I THINK HE COMES OFF VERY WELL, ARE.

I THINK HE COMES OFF VERY WELL, BUT WE ARE NOT THE KIND OF I THINK HE COMES OFF VERY WELL, BUT WE ARE NOT THE KIND OF COUPLE; THAT'S THE POINT, I'M BUT WE ARE NOT THE KIND OF COUPLE; THAT'S THE POINT, I'M TRYING TO SAY.

COUPLE; THAT'S THE POINT, I'M TRYING TO SAY.

THERE'S NO SUCH THING.

TRYING TO SAY.

THERE'S NO SUCH THING.

>> SHE ALSO CHRONICLES HER THERE'S NO SUCH THING.

>> SHE ALSO CHRONICLES HER STRUGGLES WITH INFERTILITY.

>> SHE ALSO CHRONICLES HER STRUGGLES WITH INFERTILITY.

>> I TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING FROM STRUGGLES WITH INFERTILITY.

>> I TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING FROM IVF, TO CHOOSING AN EGG DONOR TO >> I TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING FROM IVF, TO CHOOSING AN EGG DONOR TO TRYING ADOPTION, INCLUDING SOME IVF, TO CHOOSING AN EGG DONOR TO TRYING ADOPTION, INCLUDING SOME MISCARRIAGES, TERMINATION.

TRYING ADOPTION, INCLUDING SOME MISCARRIAGES, TERMINATION.

I HOPE PARTICULARLY WOMEN MISCARRIAGES, TERMINATION.

I HOPE PARTICULARLY WOMEN DEALING WITH INFERTILITY, WHO I HOPE PARTICULARLY WOMEN DEALING WITH INFERTILITY, WHO ARE GOING THROUGH IT OR WHO HAVE DEALING WITH INFERTILITY, WHO ARE GOING THROUGH IT OR WHO HAVE BEEN THROUGH IT FEEL COMFORTED ARE GOING THROUGH IT OR WHO HAVE BEEN THROUGH IT FEEL COMFORTED AND LESS ALONE.

BEEN THROUGH IT FEEL COMFORTED AND LESS ALONE.

>> THE BOOK IS BEING MADE INTO A AND LESS ALONE.

>> THE BOOK IS BEING MADE INTO A TV SHOW.

>> THE BOOK IS BEING MADE INTO A TV SHOW.

CHUPACK IS WORKING ON THE PILOT TV SHOW.

CHUPACK IS WORKING ON THE PILOT WITH JAKE KASDAN, THE EXECUTIVE CHUPACK IS WORKING ON THE PILOT WITH JAKE KASDAN, THE EXECUTIVE PRODUCER OF "NEW GIRL" AND A WITH JAKE KASDAN, THE EXECUTIVE PRODUCER OF "NEW GIRL" AND A VETERAN SITCOM DIRECTOR.

PRODUCER OF "NEW GIRL" AND A VETERAN SITCOM DIRECTOR.

>> HE LOVED THE BOOK.

VETERAN SITCOM DIRECTOR.

>> HE LOVED THE BOOK.

HE'S HAPPILY MARRIED AND HAS >> HE LOVED THE BOOK.

HE'S HAPPILY MARRIED AND HAS KIDS AND SAID THERE HASN'T BEEN HE'S HAPPILY MARRIED AND HAS KIDS AND SAID THERE HASN'T BEEN A SHOW ABOUT MARRIAGE LIKE THIS, KIDS AND SAID THERE HASN'T BEEN A SHOW ABOUT MARRIAGE LIKE THIS, JUST KIND OF AN HONEST, A SHOW ABOUT MARRIAGE LIKE THIS, JUST KIND OF AN HONEST, ROMANTIC, FUNNY SHOW ABOUT A JUST KIND OF AN HONEST, ROMANTIC, FUNNY SHOW ABOUT A COUPLE IN A WHILE.

ROMANTIC, FUNNY SHOW ABOUT A COUPLE IN A WHILE.

>> WHILE REPRESENTATION IS FAR COUPLE IN A WHILE.

>> WHILE REPRESENTATION IS FAR FROM EQUAL, WOMEN ARE MORE >> WHILE REPRESENTATION IS FAR FROM EQUAL, WOMEN ARE MORE LIKELY TO BE WORKING BEHIND THE FROM EQUAL, WOMEN ARE MORE LIKELY TO BE WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES IN TELEVISION THAN IN LIKELY TO BE WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES IN TELEVISION THAN IN FILM.

SCENES IN TELEVISION THAN IN FILM.

ACCORDING TO A RECENT REPORT, FILM.

ACCORDING TO A RECENT REPORT, WOMEN FILL MORE THAN A QUARTER ACCORDING TO A RECENT REPORT, WOMEN FILL MORE THAN A QUARTER OF BEHIND-THE SCENES ROLES IN WOMEN FILL MORE THAN A QUARTER OF BEHIND-THE SCENES ROLES IN TV, COMPARED WITH FEWER THAN ONE OF BEHIND-THE SCENES ROLES IN TV, COMPARED WITH FEWER THAN ONE FIFTH OF THOSE ROLES IN FILM.

TV, COMPARED WITH FEWER THAN ONE FIFTH OF THOSE ROLES IN FILM.

>> THERE'S THINGS THAT WOMEN ARE FIFTH OF THOSE ROLES IN FILM.

>> THERE'S THINGS THAT WOMEN ARE RELUCTANT TO SAY YES TO, BECAUSE >> THERE'S THINGS THAT WOMEN ARE RELUCTANT TO SAY YES TO, BECAUSE I JOKE, WE -- MY FRIENDS AND I RELUCTANT TO SAY YES TO, BECAUSE I JOKE, WE -- MY FRIENDS AND I -- OFTEN FEEL WE HAVE TO TAKE A I JOKE, WE -- MY FRIENDS AND I -- OFTEN FEEL WE HAVE TO TAKE A SUNDANCE INSTITUTE BEFORE WE CAN -- OFTEN FEEL WE HAVE TO TAKE A SUNDANCE INSTITUTE BEFORE WE CAN DIRECT A FILM.

SUNDANCE INSTITUTE BEFORE WE CAN DIRECT A FILM.

WHEREAS MEN, I KNOW SHOOT ONE DIRECT A FILM.

WHEREAS MEN, I KNOW SHOOT ONE EPISODE OF TV AND THEY'RE LIKE WHEREAS MEN, I KNOW SHOOT ONE EPISODE OF TV AND THEY'RE LIKE WELL NOW I CAN DIRECT A FILM.

EPISODE OF TV AND THEY'RE LIKE WELL NOW I CAN DIRECT A FILM.

IT TAKES A VERY SPECIAL KIND OF WELL NOW I CAN DIRECT A FILM.

IT TAKES A VERY SPECIAL KIND OF WOMAN TO WANNA GRASP THOSE IT TAKES A VERY SPECIAL KIND OF WOMAN TO WANNA GRASP THOSE WOMAN TO WANNA GRASP THOSE WOMAN TO WANNA GRASP THOSE WOMAN TO WANNA GRASP THOSE REINS, BUT I AM STARTING TO WOMAN TO WANNA GRASP THOSE REINS, BUT I AM STARTING TO BELIEVE MORE AND JUST SAY YES.

REINS, BUT I AM STARTING TO BELIEVE MORE AND JUST SAY YES.

LEARN IT.

BELIEVE MORE AND JUST SAY YES.

LEARN IT.

DO IT.

LEARN IT.

DO IT.

YOU CAN DO IT.

DO IT.

YOU CAN DO IT.

HOW BAD CAN IT BE?

YOU CAN DO IT.

HOW BAD CAN IT BE?

>> ARE THE WOMEN I NOW HOW BAD CAN IT BE?

>> ARE THE WOMEN I NOW MILLENNIALS ARE THEY AS AFRAID >> ARE THE WOMEN I NOW MILLENNIALS ARE THEY AS AFRAID TO TAKE CHARGE AS THEIR MILLENNIALS ARE THEY AS AFRAID TO TAKE CHARGE AS THEIR PREDECESSORS.

TO TAKE CHARGE AS THEIR PREDECESSORS.

>> BECAUSE I ONLY KNOW PREDECESSORS.

>> BECAUSE I ONLY KNOW MILLENNIALS, YOU KNOW, I LOVE -- >> BECAUSE I ONLY KNOW MILLENNIALS, YOU KNOW, I LOVE -- WHAT SHE'S DOING SO GREAT FROM MILLENNIALS, YOU KNOW, I LOVE -- WHAT SHE'S DOING SO GREAT FROM HER TO NOW SHE WRITES ABOUT WHAT SHE'S DOING SO GREAT FROM HER TO NOW SHE WRITES ABOUT RELATIONSHIPS THAT ARE REAL IN HER TO NOW SHE WRITES ABOUT RELATIONSHIPS THAT ARE REAL IN STREETED OF REGURGITATING THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT ARE REAL IN STREETED OF REGURGITATING THE FAIRY TALE FLUFF THAT WE'VE BEEN STREETED OF REGURGITATING THE FAIRY TALE FLUFF THAT WE'VE BEEN FED.

FAIRY TALE FLUFF THAT WE'VE BEEN FED.

WOMEN AREN'T A FRAYED.

FED.

WOMEN AREN'T A FRAYED.

I DON'T THINK BOOMERS ARE A WOMEN AREN'T A FRAYED.

I DON'T THINK BOOMERS ARE A FRAYED.

I DON'T THINK BOOMERS ARE A FRAYED.

WE CALCULATE RISK DIFFERENTLY.

FRAYED.

WE CALCULATE RISK DIFFERENTLY.

I LOVE THAT SHE TALKS ABOUT MEN WE CALCULATE RISK DIFFERENTLY.

I LOVE THAT SHE TALKS ABOUT MEN ARE LIKE, I'M READY TO DIRECT A I LOVE THAT SHE TALKS ABOUT MEN ARE LIKE, I'M READY TO DIRECT A FEATURE FILM WOMEN WANT TO BE A ARE LIKE, I'M READY TO DIRECT A FEATURE FILM WOMEN WANT TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE PREPARED.

FEATURE FILM WOMEN WANT TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE PREPARED.

>> IT'S TRUE.

LITTLE BIT MORE PREPARED.

>> IT'S TRUE.

ANY IDEA WHY THIS MAY NOT BE A >> IT'S TRUE.

ANY IDEA WHY THIS MAY NOT BE A FAIR QUESTION BUT ANY WHY WOMEN ANY IDEA WHY THIS MAY NOT BE A FAIR QUESTION BUT ANY WHY WOMEN DO BETTER IN TV THAN FILM?

FAIR QUESTION BUT ANY WHY WOMEN DO BETTER IN TV THAN FILM?

>> PERHAPS THAT'S GREAT PART OF DO BETTER IN TV THAN FILM?

>> PERHAPS THAT'S GREAT PART OF IT.

>> PERHAPS THAT'S GREAT PART OF IT.

I THINK FILM IS VERY DIFFICULT.

IT.

I THINK FILM IS VERY DIFFICULT.

ANGELINA JOLIE AND OTHER ACTORS.

I THINK FILM IS VERY DIFFICULT.

ANGELINA JOLIE AND OTHER ACTORS.

I THINK BREAKING OUT IN BOTH ANGELINA JOLIE AND OTHER ACTORS.

I THINK BREAKING OUT IN BOTH FIELDS IS TOUGHER.

I THINK BREAKING OUT IN BOTH FIELDS IS TOUGHER.

ONE OF MY FAVORITE EXAMPLES IS FIELDS IS TOUGHER.

ONE OF MY FAVORITE EXAMPLES IS MINDY, ONE OF MY FAVORITE ONE OF MY FAVORITE EXAMPLES IS MINDY, ONE OF MY FAVORITE ACCESSES SHE BROKE OUT FROM MINDY, ONE OF MY FAVORITE ACCESSES SHE BROKE OUT FROM BEHIND -- SHE WAS WRITER ON "THE ACCESSES SHE BROKE OUT FROM BEHIND -- SHE WAS WRITER ON "THE OFFICE."

BEHIND -- SHE WAS WRITER ON "THE OFFICE."

>> AND WOMAN OF COLOR.

OFFICE."

>> AND WOMAN OF COLOR.

>> JUST NOW COME IN TO HER OWN.

>> AND WOMAN OF COLOR.

>> JUST NOW COME IN TO HER OWN.

SHE'S BEEN AROUND.

>> JUST NOW COME IN TO HER OWN.

SHE'S BEEN AROUND.

I THINK THAT IS FOR MILLENNIALS SHE'S BEEN AROUND.

I THINK THAT IS FOR MILLENNIALS AND EVERYBODY LIKE THAT, THAT'S I THINK THAT IS FOR MILLENNIALS AND EVERYBODY LIKE THAT, THAT'S A SIGN OF THE TIMES TO COME.

AND EVERYBODY LIKE THAT, THAT'S A SIGN OF THE TIMES TO COME.

>> WHO WOULD BE HER EQUIVALENT, A SIGN OF THE TIMES TO COME.

>> WHO WOULD BE HER EQUIVALENT, SHE'S DONE "GREY'S ANATOMY" THEY >> WHO WOULD BE HER EQUIVALENT, SHE'S DONE "GREY'S ANATOMY" THEY ARE KIND OF NO QUESTION THAT SHE'S DONE "GREY'S ANATOMY" THEY ARE KIND OF NO QUESTION THAT HOLLYWOOD CAN -- ARE KIND OF NO QUESTION THAT HOLLYWOOD CAN -- >> BUT ASK IT BECAUSE YOU HAVE HOLLYWOOD CAN -- >> BUT ASK IT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO RAISE 50 MILLION BUCKS TO DO >> BUT ASK IT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO RAISE 50 MILLION BUCKS TO DO A MOVIE BUT HAVE TO, AS I DID, TO RAISE 50 MILLION BUCKS TO DO A MOVIE BUT HAVE TO, AS I DID, ONLY RAISE IN THE FIVE FIGURES A MOVIE BUT HAVE TO, AS I DID, ONLY RAISE IN THE FIVE FIGURES TO START THIS TV SHOW.

ONLY RAISE IN THE FIVE FIGURES TO START THIS TV SHOW.

>> BUT I FEEL LIKE THAT IS TO START THIS TV SHOW.

>> BUT I FEEL LIKE THAT IS IMPLIES THAT WOMEN CAN'T HANDLE >> BUT I FEEL LIKE THAT IS IMPLIES THAT WOMEN CAN'T HANDLE OR MANAGE LARGE BUDGETS WHICH IS IMPLIES THAT WOMEN CAN'T HANDLE OR MANAGE LARGE BUDGETS WHICH IS SUCH A -- OR MANAGE LARGE BUDGETS WHICH IS SUCH A -- >> NO, NO.

SUCH A -- >> NO, NO.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT.

>> NO, NO.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT.

>> I KNOW YOU'RE NOTE SAYING I'M NOT SAYING THAT.

>> I KNOW YOU'RE NOTE SAYING THAT.

>> I KNOW YOU'RE NOTE SAYING THAT.

>> BECAUSE WOMEN STILL HAVE LESS THAT.

>> BECAUSE WOMEN STILL HAVE LESS ACCESS TO VENTURE CAPITAL.

>> BECAUSE WOMEN STILL HAVE LESS ACCESS TO VENTURE CAPITAL.

MAKING A MOVIE IS CLEARLY MUCH ACCESS TO VENTURE CAPITAL.

MAKING A MOVIE IS CLEARLY MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE THAN STARTING -- MAKING A MOVIE IS CLEARLY MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE THAN STARTING -- >> MORE OPPORTUNITY IN MORE EXPENSIVE THAN STARTING -- >> MORE OPPORTUNITY IN TELEVISION.

>> MORE OPPORTUNITY IN TELEVISION.

THERE IS SIMPLY MORE OUTLETS, TELEVISION.

THERE IS SIMPLY MORE OUTLETS, MORE OPPORTUNITIES, THERE'S THERE IS SIMPLY MORE OUTLETS, MORE OPPORTUNITIES, THERE'S WEB-BASED SHOWS, A LITTLE BIT MORE OPPORTUNITIES, THERE'S WEB-BASED SHOWS, A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO BREAK IN THERE.

WEB-BASED SHOWS, A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO BREAK IN THERE.

WHEN I THINK ABOUT HOLLYWOOD I EASIER TO BREAK IN THERE.

WHEN I THINK ABOUT HOLLYWOOD I THINK A LOT ABOUT WOMEN.

WHEN I THINK ABOUT HOLLYWOOD I THINK A LOT ABOUT WOMEN.

I DON'T USUALLY WATCH THE THINK A LOT ABOUT WOMEN.

I DON'T USUALLY WATCH THE "OSCARS" BUT MAYBE IT WAS WOMEN I DON'T USUALLY WATCH THE "OSCARS" BUT MAYBE IT WAS WOMEN FROM MUSIC TO SEX TO ACTORS AND "OSCARS" BUT MAYBE IT WAS WOMEN FROM MUSIC TO SEX TO ACTORS AND EVERYONE WAS A WOMAN.

FROM MUSIC TO SEX TO ACTORS AND EVERYONE WAS A WOMAN.

I FEEL VERY POSITIVE ABOUT THIS.

EVERYONE WAS A WOMAN.

I FEEL VERY POSITIVE ABOUT THIS.

>> MY NIECE IS AN RACK DOCTORS I FEEL VERY POSITIVE ABOUT THIS.

>> MY NIECE IS AN RACK DOCTORS MUCH.

>> MY NIECE IS AN RACK DOCTORS MUCH.

SHE'S BEEN IN TONS OF FILMS IS MUCH.

SHE'S BEEN IN TONS OF FILMS IS VERY SUCCESSFUL AND MY SISTER SHE'S BEEN IN TONS OF FILMS IS VERY SUCCESSFUL AND MY SISTER HAS HER OWN PRODUCTION COMPANY VERY SUCCESSFUL AND MY SISTER HAS HER OWN PRODUCTION COMPANY THEY'RE I HAVE THE HOLLYWOOD HAS HER OWN PRODUCTION COMPANY THEY'RE I HAVE THE HOLLYWOOD LIFE.

THEY'RE I HAVE THE HOLLYWOOD LIFE.

AND THERE'S A TON OF SEXISM IN LIFE.

AND THERE'S A TON OF SEXISM IN HOLLYWOOD.

AND THERE'S A TON OF SEXISM IN HOLLYWOOD.

AND I THINK BONNIE IS CORRECT IN HOLLYWOOD.

AND I THINK BONNIE IS CORRECT IN THAT YOU NEED TO FOLLOW THE AND I THINK BONNIE IS CORRECT IN THAT YOU NEED TO FOLLOW THE MONEY.

THAT YOU NEED TO FOLLOW THE MONEY.

BECAUSE NORMALLY WHEN YOU FIND MONEY.

BECAUSE NORMALLY WHEN YOU FIND INEQUALITY YOU WANT TO FIND OUT BECAUSE NORMALLY WHEN YOU FIND INEQUALITY YOU WANT TO FIND OUT WHAT IS AT THE HEART OF INEQUALITY YOU WANT TO FIND OUT WHAT IS AT THE HEART OF SOMETHING, FOLLOW THE MONEY.

WHAT IS AT THE HEART OF SOMETHING, FOLLOW THE MONEY.

IT TAKES A LOT OF MONEY TO GET A SOMETHING, FOLLOW THE MONEY.

IT TAKES A LOT OF MONEY TO GET A FILM.

IT TAKES A LOT OF MONEY TO GET A FILM.

IT TAKES A LOT.

FILM.

IT TAKES A LOT.

>> WHAT ABOUT USING HUMOR TO GET IT TAKES A LOT.

>> WHAT ABOUT USING HUMOR TO GET THROUGH TIMES LIKE PROBLEMS >> WHAT ABOUT USING HUMOR TO GET THROUGH TIMES LIKE PROBLEMS WITH -- I CAN SEE USING HUMOR IN THROUGH TIMES LIKE PROBLEMS WITH -- I CAN SEE USING HUMOR IN ALL KINDS OF SITUATIONS, THAT WITH -- I CAN SEE USING HUMOR IN ALL KINDS OF SITUATIONS, THAT ONE -- ALL KINDS OF SITUATIONS, THAT ONE -- >> SHE REMINDED ME OF CAITLIN ONE -- >> SHE REMINDED ME OF CAITLIN FLANAGAN THE ATLANTIC COLUMNIST >> SHE REMINDED ME OF CAITLIN FLANAGAN THE ATLANTIC COLUMNIST AND WRITES SIMILARLY, USES HUMOR FLANAGAN THE ATLANTIC COLUMNIST AND WRITES SIMILARLY, USES HUMOR FOR TOUCHING MOMENTS, LEAVING AND WRITES SIMILARLY, USES HUMOR FOR TOUCHING MOMENTS, LEAVING YOUR CHILDREN WHEN GO BACK TO FOR TOUCHING MOMENTS, LEAVING YOUR CHILDREN WHEN GO BACK TO WORK.

YOUR CHILDREN WHEN GO BACK TO WORK.

MANAGING TWINS.

WORK.

MANAGING TWINS.

VERY SIMILAR.

MANAGING TWINS.

VERY SIMILAR.

THESE ARE IN MANY WAYS SORT VERY SIMILAR.

THESE ARE IN MANY WAYS SORT OF -- YOU HAVE TO LAUGH AT THEM THESE ARE IN MANY WAYS SORT OF -- YOU HAVE TO LAUGH AT THEM WHEN YOU'RE UP AT 3:00 IN THE OF -- YOU HAVE TO LAUGH AT THEM WHEN YOU'RE UP AT 3:00 IN THE MORNING CHANGING TWINS ACES WHEN YOU'RE UP AT 3:00 IN THE MORNING CHANGING TWINS ACES DIAPERS WHAT CAN YOU D. MORNING CHANGING TWINS ACES DIAPERS WHAT CAN YOU D. >> I LOVE THAT.

DIAPERS WHAT CAN YOU D. >> I LOVE THAT.

I LOVE THAT HUGE OR I RELATE >> I LOVE THAT.

I LOVE THAT HUGE OR I RELATE WITH HER A LOT.

I LOVE THAT HUGE OR I RELATE WITH HER A LOT.

I FEEL LIKE -- IT'S A SURVIVING WITH HER A LOT.

I FEEL LIKE -- IT'S A SURVIVING MECHANISM.

I FEEL LIKE -- IT'S A SURVIVING MECHANISM.

A COPING MECHASO WHAT IS THE AL, MECHANISM.

A COPING MECHASO WHAT IS THE AL, ARE YOU GOING TO FREAK OUT HAVE A COPING MECHASO WHAT IS THE AL, ARE YOU GOING TO FREAK OUT HAVE NERVOUS BREAK DOWN INSTEAD OF ARE YOU GOING TO FREAK OUT HAVE NERVOUS BREAK DOWN INSTEAD OF LAUGH.

NERVOUS BREAK DOWN INSTEAD OF LAUGH.

>> OR GET VERY DEPRESSED CRAWL LAUGH.

>> OR GET VERY DEPRESSED CRAWL BACK IN BED.

>> OR GET VERY DEPRESSED CRAWL BACK IN BED.

SURVIVAL MECHANISM.

BACK IN BED.

SURVIVAL MECHANISM.

SHE WRITES ABOUT HER LIFE.

SURVIVAL MECHANISM.

SHE WRITES ABOUT HER LIFE.

I WRITE ABOUT MY LIFE.

SHE WRITES ABOUT HER LIFE.

I WRITE ABOUT MY LIFE.

YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE HUMOR, IT'S I WRITE ABOUT MY LIFE.

YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE HUMOR, IT'S HOW YOU CONNECT.

YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE HUMOR, IT'S HOW YOU CONNECT.

>> SHE'S OBVIOUSLY MARRIED TO A HOW YOU CONNECT.

>> SHE'S OBVIOUSLY MARRIED TO A VERY SECURE MAN, TOO.

>> SHE'S OBVIOUSLY MARRIED TO A VERY SECURE MAN, TOO.

SERIOUSLY.

VERY SECURE MAN, TOO.

SERIOUSLY.

MY WIFE JUST LOOKED AT ME SAID, SERIOUSLY.

MY WIFE JUST LOOKED AT ME SAID, THIS BOOK IS NOT ABOUT OUR MY WIFE JUST LOOKED AT ME SAID, THIS BOOK IS NOT ABOUT OUR RELATIONSHIP.

THIS BOOK IS NOT ABOUT OUR RELATIONSHIP.

A LONG DATE?

RELATIONSHIP.

A LONG DATE?

>> NOT ONLY THAT SHE SAID A LONG DATE?

>> NOT ONLY THAT SHE SAID THAT -- HER HUSBAND MOVED IN TO >> NOT ONLY THAT SHE SAID THAT -- HER HUSBAND MOVED IN TO HER HOUSE FOR AWHILE SHE FELT THAT -- HER HUSBAND MOVED IN TO HER HOUSE FOR AWHILE SHE FELT LIKE HE WAS THE HOUSE GUEST THAT HER HOUSE FOR AWHILE SHE FELT LIKE HE WAS THE HOUSE GUEST THAT WOULDN'T LEAVE.

LIKE HE WAS THE HOUSE GUEST THAT WOULDN'T LEAVE.

BUT ALSO IMPORTANT -- THIS IS WOULDN'T LEAVE.

BUT ALSO IMPORTANT -- THIS IS HER SECOND MARRIAGE.

BUT ALSO IMPORTANT -- THIS IS HER SECOND MARRIAGE.

HER FIRST HUSBAND WAS ACTUALLY HER SECOND MARRIAGE.

HER FIRST HUSBAND WAS ACTUALLY GAY SHE'S COLT WITH HUMOR.

HER FIRST HUSBAND WAS ACTUALLY GAY SHE'S COLT WITH HUMOR.

>> YOU GOT TO DEAL WITH THAT.

GAY SHE'S COLT WITH HUMOR.

>> YOU GOT TO DEAL WITH THAT.

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