FOUNDATION.

FOUNDATION.

>> THIS WEEK ON "TO THE FOUNDATION.

>> THIS WEEK ON "TO THE CONTRARY" >> THIS WEEK ON "TO THE CONTRARY" FIRST, CATHOLIC ORGANIZATIONS CONTRARY" FIRST, CATHOLIC ORGANIZATIONS CLAIM DENIAL OF FIRST AMENDMENT FIRST, CATHOLIC ORGANIZATIONS CLAIM DENIAL OF FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS, THEN WOMEN INMATES CLAIM DENIAL OF FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS, THEN WOMEN INMATES STERILIZED.

RIGHTS, THEN WOMEN INMATES STERILIZED.

BEHIND THE HEADLINES: HOME GROWN STERILIZED.

BEHIND THE HEADLINES: HOME GROWN HUMAN TRAFFICKING.

HELLO, I'M BONNIE ERBE.

HELLO, I'M BONNIE ERBE.

WELCOME TO "TO THE CONTRARY," A HELLO, I'M BONNIE ERBE.

WELCOME TO "TO THE CONTRARY," A DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL WELCOME TO "TO THE CONTRARY," A DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL TRENDS FROM DIVERSE DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL TRENDS FROM DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES.

TRENDS FROM DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES.

UP FIRST, HEALTHCARE REFORM PERSPECTIVES.

UP FIRST, HEALTHCARE REFORM SPLIT.

UP FIRST, HEALTHCARE REFORM SPLIT.

THE OBAMACARE FREE BIRTH CONTROL SPLIT.

THE OBAMACARE FREE BIRTH CONTROL MANDATE GOT AN UNLIKELY ALLY THE OBAMACARE FREE BIRTH CONTROL MANDATE GOT AN UNLIKELY ALLY THIS WEEK.

MANDATE GOT AN UNLIKELY ALLY THIS WEEK.

THE CATHOLIC HEALTH ASSOCIATION THIS WEEK.

THE CATHOLIC HEALTH ASSOCIATION OR CHA NOW SAYS IT'S OKAY WITH THE CATHOLIC HEALTH ASSOCIATION OR CHA NOW SAYS IT'S OKAY WITH THE ADMINISTRATION'S LATEST OR CHA NOW SAYS IT'S OKAY WITH THE ADMINISTRATION'S LATEST COMPROMISE.

THE ADMINISTRATION'S LATEST COMPROMISE.

OBAMACARE MANDATES ALL INSURANCE COMPROMISE.

OBAMACARE MANDATES ALL INSURANCE SHOULD COVER CONTRACEPTIVES FREE OBAMACARE MANDATES ALL INSURANCE SHOULD COVER CONTRACEPTIVES FREE OF CHARGE.

SHOULD COVER CONTRACEPTIVES FREE OF CHARGE.

BUT MEMBERS OF THE CATHOLIC OF CHARGE.

BUT MEMBERS OF THE CATHOLIC HIERARCHY OBJECTED AND CATHOLIC BUT MEMBERS OF THE CATHOLIC HIERARCHY OBJECTED AND CATHOLIC OWNERS OF FAITH-BASED NONPROFITS HIERARCHY OBJECTED AND CATHOLIC OWNERS OF FAITH-BASED NONPROFITS FILED LAWSUITS SAYING THAT OWNERS OF FAITH-BASED NONPROFITS FILED LAWSUITS SAYING THAT MANDATE VIOLATES THEIR FREE FILED LAWSUITS SAYING THAT MANDATE VIOLATES THEIR FREE EXERCISE RELIGIOUS RIGHTS.

MANDATE VIOLATES THEIR FREE EXERCISE RELIGIOUS RIGHTS.

THE CHA REPRESENTS HOSPITALS EXERCISE RELIGIOUS RIGHTS.

THE CHA REPRESENTS HOSPITALS THAT TREAT ONE IN SIX AMERICAN THE CHA REPRESENTS HOSPITALS THAT TREAT ONE IN SIX AMERICAN PATIENTS.

THAT TREAT ONE IN SIX AMERICAN PATIENTS.

THE LATEST ADMINISTRATION PATIENTS.

THE LATEST ADMINISTRATION COMPROMISE PUTS INSURANCE THE LATEST ADMINISTRATION COMPROMISE PUTS INSURANCE PROVIDERS, NOT CATHOLIC COMPROMISE PUTS INSURANCE PROVIDERS, NOT CATHOLIC HOSPITALS OR FAITH-BASED PROVIDERS, NOT CATHOLIC HOSPITALS OR FAITH-BASED NONPROFITS, IN DIRECT TOUCH WITH HOSPITALS OR FAITH-BASED NONPROFITS, IN DIRECT TOUCH WITH EMPLOYEES TO PROVIDE FREE BIRTH NONPROFITS, IN DIRECT TOUCH WITH EMPLOYEES TO PROVIDE FREE BIRTH CONTROL.

EMPLOYEES TO PROVIDE FREE BIRTH CONTROL.

IT TAKES THE PROTESTING CONTROL.

IT TAKES THE PROTESTING HOSPITALS AND NONPROFITS OUT OF IT TAKES THE PROTESTING HOSPITALS AND NONPROFITS OUT OF THE LOOP AND DOES NOT USE ANY OF HOSPITALS AND NONPROFITS OUT OF THE LOOP AND DOES NOT USE ANY OF THEIR FUNDS TO PROVIDE THE THE LOOP AND DOES NOT USE ANY OF THEIR FUNDS TO PROVIDE THE DISPUTED COVERAGE.

THEIR FUNDS TO PROVIDE THE DISPUTED COVERAGE.

WHILE THE CHA SAYS THIS DISPUTED COVERAGE.

WHILE THE CHA SAYS THIS COMPROMISE DOES NOT VIOLATE THE WHILE THE CHA SAYS THIS COMPROMISE DOES NOT VIOLATE THE HOSPITALS' RELIGIOUS LIBERTIES, COMPROMISE DOES NOT VIOLATE THE HOSPITALS' RELIGIOUS LIBERTIES, THE US CONFERENCE OF BISHOPS IS HOSPITALS' RELIGIOUS LIBERTIES, THE US CONFERENCE OF BISHOPS IS STILL STAUNCHLY OPPOSED.

THE US CONFERENCE OF BISHOPS IS STILL STAUNCHLY OPPOSED.

THE BISHOPS SAY THE REGULATIONS STILL STAUNCHLY OPPOSED.

THE BISHOPS SAY THE REGULATIONS PROVE THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION THE BISHOPS SAY THE REGULATIONS PROVE THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION IS HOSTILE TOWARD RELIGIOUS PROVE THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION IS HOSTILE TOWARD RELIGIOUS FREEDOM.

IS HOSTILE TOWARD RELIGIOUS FREEDOM.

CHURCHES, SYNAGOGUES AND MOSQUES FREEDOM.

CHURCHES, SYNAGOGUES AND MOSQUES ARE EXEMPT.

CHURCHES, SYNAGOGUES AND MOSQUES ARE EXEMPT.

SO, IS THIS LATEST COMPROMISE ARE EXEMPT.

SO, IS THIS LATEST COMPROMISE STILL A VIOLATION OF FREE EXER SO, IS THIS LATEST COMPROMISE STILL A VIOLATION OF FREE EXER SEES RIGHTS UNDER R UNDER THE STILL A VIOLATION OF FREE EXER SEES RIGHTS UNDER R UNDER THE CONSTITUTION.

SEES RIGHTS UNDER R UNDER THE CONSTITUTION.

>> ABSOLUTELY NOT.

CONSTITUTION.

>> ABSOLUTELY NOT.

THIS IS A MATTER OF SEPARATION >> ABSOLUTELY NOT.

THIS IS A MATTER OF SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE.

THIS IS A MATTER OF SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE.

>> I DO THINK IT IS COERCIVE TO OF CHURCH AND STATE.

>> I DO THINK IT IS COERCIVE TO HAVE INDIVIDUALS AND COMPANIES >> I DO THINK IT IS COERCIVE TO HAVE INDIVIDUALS AND COMPANIES HAVE TO PAY FOR SOMETHING THAT HAVE INDIVIDUALS AND COMPANIES HAVE TO PAY FOR SOMETHING THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR.

HAVE TO PAY FOR SOMETHING THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR.

>> THE CATHOLIC HOSPITALS HAVE THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR.

>> THE CATHOLIC HOSPITALS HAVE TO PROVIDE SERVICES OR PAY FOR >> THE CATHOLIC HOSPITALS HAVE TO PROVIDE SERVICES OR PAY FOR THE SERVICES THEIR RIGHTS TO TO PROVIDE SERVICES OR PAY FOR THE SERVICES THEIR RIGHTS TO RELIGION EXPRESSION IS VIOLATED.

THE SERVICES THEIR RIGHTS TO RELIGION EXPRESSION IS VIOLATED.

>> STILL DEFINITELY A PROBLEM.

RELIGION EXPRESSION IS VIOLATED.

>> STILL DEFINITELY A PROBLEM.

IT'S ASSUMING THAT CONTRACEPTION >> STILL DEFINITELY A PROBLEM.

IT'S ASSUMING THAT CONTRACEPTION IS THE NUMBER ONE CONCERN FOR IT'S ASSUMING THAT CONTRACEPTION IS THE NUMBER ONE CONCERN FOR ALL WOMEN.

IS THE NUMBER ONE CONCERN FOR ALL WOMEN.

>> WAIT A SECOND.

ALL WOMEN.

>> WAIT A SECOND.

FIRST, I WANT TO GET FIRST TO >> WAIT A SECOND.

FIRST, I WANT TO GET FIRST TO THE CONSTITUTION AND MEANING OF FIRST, I WANT TO GET FIRST TO THE CONSTITUTION AND MEANING OF THE FREE EXERCISE CLAUSE.

THE CONSTITUTION AND MEANING OF THE FREE EXERCISE CLAUSE.

I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED BECAUSE THE FREE EXERCISE CLAUSE.

I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED BECAUSE IT'S CLEARLY CHURCHES WITHIN I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED BECAUSE IT'S CLEARLY CHURCHES WITHIN CHURCHES AND SOCIETY IN GENERAL IT'S CLEARLY CHURCHES WITHIN CHURCHES AND SOCIETY IN GENERAL HAVE A RIGHT TO EXERCISE THEIR CHURCHES AND SOCIETY IN GENERAL HAVE A RIGHT TO EXERCISE THEIR RELIGION THE WAY THEY SEE FEET.

HAVE A RIGHT TO EXERCISE THEIR RELIGION THE WAY THEY SEE FEET.

DOES THAT -- DO YOU THINK RELIGION THE WAY THEY SEE FEET.

DOES THAT -- DO YOU THINK FRAMERS MEANT TO EXTEND THAT TO DOES THAT -- DO YOU THINK FRAMERS MEANT TO EXTEND THAT TO BUSINESSES, THE CHURCHES IN THE FRAMERS MEANT TO EXTEND THAT TO BUSINESSES, THE CHURCHES IN THE FORM OF HOSPITALS OR OTHER BUSINESSES, THE CHURCHES IN THE FORM OF HOSPITALS OR OTHER NONPROFIT.

FORM OF HOSPITALS OR OTHER NONPROFIT.

>> WHY NOT THEIR SUPPLY CHAIN.

NONPROFIT.

>> WHY NOT THEIR SUPPLY CHAIN.

>> OBVIOUSLY THIS IS SOMETHING >> WHY NOT THEIR SUPPLY CHAIN.

>> OBVIOUSLY THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE FOUNDERS COULD NOT HAVE >> OBVIOUSLY THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE FOUNDERS COULD NOT HAVE ENVISIONED WHATSOEVER.

THAT THE FOUNDERS COULD NOT HAVE ENVISIONED WHATSOEVER.

THEY'RE LOOKING, THINK BACK TO ENVISIONED WHATSOEVER.

THEY'RE LOOKING, THINK BACK TO 1750 THEY WERE TRYING TO ESCAPE THEY'RE LOOKING, THINK BACK TO 1750 THEY WERE TRYING TO ESCAPE FROM KING GEORGE WHO WAS NOT 1750 THEY WERE TRYING TO ESCAPE FROM KING GEORGE WHO WAS NOT ALLOWING THEM TO PRACTICE THEIR FROM KING GEORGE WHO WAS NOT ALLOWING THEM TO PRACTICE THEIR RELIGION PERIOD.

ALLOWING THEM TO PRACTICE THEIR RELIGION PERIOD.

I THINK THIS IS VERY DIFFERENT.

RELIGION PERIOD.

I THINK THIS IS VERY DIFFERENT.

AGAIN, I THINK THE FACT THAT I THINK THIS IS VERY DIFFERENT.

AGAIN, I THINK THE FACT THAT CATHOLIC ORGANIZATIONS GET SO AGAIN, I THINK THE FACT THAT CATHOLIC ORGANIZATIONS GET SO MANY BREAKS FROM THE CATHOLIC ORGANIZATIONS GET SO MANY BREAKS FROM THE GOVERNMENTS, THIS HAS GOTTEN SO MANY BREAKS FROM THE GOVERNMENTS, THIS HAS GOTTEN SO MUDDLED OVER THE YEARS THAT IT'S GOVERNMENTS, THIS HAS GOTTEN SO MUDDLED OVER THE YEARS THAT IT'S NOT EXACTLY THIS CLEAN CUT.

MUDDLED OVER THE YEARS THAT IT'S NOT EXACTLY THIS CLEAN CUT.

>> BUT YOU SAID EARLIER THAT YOU NOT EXACTLY THIS CLEAN CUT.

>> BUT YOU SAID EARLIER THAT YOU THINK YOU'RE OPPOSED TO THE IDEA >> BUT YOU SAID EARLIER THAT YOU THINK YOU'RE OPPOSED TO THE IDEA FORCING THEM TO OFFER SOMETHING THINK YOU'RE OPPOSED TO THE IDEA FORCING THEM TO OFFER SOMETHING THEY DON'T WANT TO OFFER ON THE FORCING THEM TO OFFER SOMETHING THEY DON'T WANT TO OFFER ON THE BASIS OF THEIR RELIGION.

THEY DON'T WANT TO OFFER ON THE BASIS OF THEIR RELIGION.

>> I THINK IT IS COERCIVE TO BASIS OF THEIR RELIGION.

>> I THINK IT IS COERCIVE TO HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL OR COMPANY OR >> I THINK IT IS COERCIVE TO HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL OR COMPANY OR ORGANIZATION OR ANYONE HAVE TO HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL OR COMPANY OR ORGANIZATION OR ANYONE HAVE TO PAY FOR A PRODUCT OR SERVICE ORGANIZATION OR ANYONE HAVE TO PAY FOR A PRODUCT OR SERVICE THAT THEY DON'T SUPPORT OR PAY FOR A PRODUCT OR SERVICE THAT THEY DON'T SUPPORT OR BELIEVE IN.

THAT THEY DON'T SUPPORT OR BELIEVE IN.

JUST TAKING A STEP BACK -- BELIEVE IN.

JUST TAKING A STEP BACK -- >> BUT THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION JUST TAKING A STEP BACK -- >> BUT THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION DID PULL BACK AND SAY, >> BUT THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION DID PULL BACK AND SAY, COMPROMISE THE FIRST TIME, DID PULL BACK AND SAY, COMPROMISE THE FIRST TIME, COMPROMISED A COUPLE OF TIMES COMPROMISE THE FIRST TIME, COMPROMISED A COUPLE OF TIMES NOW.

COMPROMISED A COUPLE OF TIMES NOW.

SAYING THAT THESE ORGANIZATIONS NOW.

SAYING THAT THESE ORGANIZATIONS DID NOT HAVE TO PAY FOR IT, IT SAYING THAT THESE ORGANIZATIONS DID NOT HAVE TO PAY FOR IT, IT WAS ALL THE INSURANCE COMPANIES DID NOT HAVE TO PAY FOR IT, IT WAS ALL THE INSURANCE COMPANIES HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.

WAS ALL THE INSURANCE COMPANIES HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.

>> EXACTLY.

HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.

>> EXACTLY.

THE INSURANCE COMPANIES ARE >> EXACTLY.

THE INSURANCE COMPANIES ARE PAYING FOR IT, NOTHING IS FREE.

THE INSURANCE COMPANIES ARE PAYING FOR IT, NOTHING IS FREE.

WHERE IS THIS MONEY COMING FROM.

PAYING FOR IT, NOTHING IS FREE.

WHERE IS THIS MONEY COMING FROM.

IT'S COMING FROM MONEY IS WHERE IS THIS MONEY COMING FROM.

IT'S COMING FROM MONEY IS FUNGIBLE.

IT'S COMING FROM MONEY IS FUNGIBLE.

PEOPLE WILL PAY MORE MONEY FUNGIBLE.

PEOPLE WILL PAY MORE MONEY ELSEWHERE HAVING THIS WORK OUT.

PEOPLE WILL PAY MORE MONEY ELSEWHERE HAVING THIS WORK OUT.

TO ME IT'S VERY BLURRY.

ELSEWHERE HAVING THIS WORK OUT.

TO ME IT'S VERY BLURRY.

>> IT'S BLURRY BECAUSE WHAT ARE TO ME IT'S VERY BLURRY.

>> IT'S BLURRY BECAUSE WHAT ARE THE BISHOPS AFTER THIS.

>> IT'S BLURRY BECAUSE WHAT ARE THE BISHOPS AFTER THIS.

IS THE PROBLEM.

THE BISHOPS AFTER THIS.

IS THE PROBLEM.

WE HAVE A HEALTH CARE LAW THAT IS THE PROBLEM.

WE HAVE A HEALTH CARE LAW THAT ALLOWS -- MANDATES CERTAIN WE HAVE A HEALTH CARE LAW THAT ALLOWS -- MANDATES CERTAIN SERVICES ARE PROVIDED INCLUDING ALLOWS -- MANDATES CERTAIN SERVICES ARE PROVIDED INCLUDING CONTRACEPTIVES AND THEY DON'T SERVICES ARE PROVIDED INCLUDING CONTRACEPTIVES AND THEY DON'T WANT TO COMPLY WITH THAT LAW.

CONTRACEPTIVES AND THEY DON'T WANT TO COMPLY WITH THAT LAW.

AND I THINK THE REASON -- THERE WANT TO COMPLY WITH THAT LAW.

AND I THINK THE REASON -- THERE IS OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TRYING AND I THINK THE REASON -- THERE IS OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TRYING TO REACH ALL SORTS OF IS OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TRYING TO REACH ALL SORTS OF COMPROMISES I THINK AS LAWYER TO REACH ALL SORTS OF COMPROMISES I THINK AS LAWYER THEY SHOULD NOT BECAUSE THEY ARE COMPROMISES I THINK AS LAWYER THEY SHOULD NOT BECAUSE THEY ARE POLITICAL COMPROMISES IT'S NOT THEY SHOULD NOT BECAUSE THEY ARE POLITICAL COMPROMISES IT'S NOT ENOUGH FOR THE BISHOP.

POLITICAL COMPROMISES IT'S NOT ENOUGH FOR THE BISHOP.

>> THE THING IS IF YOU WERE TO ENOUGH FOR THE BISHOP.

>> THE THING IS IF YOU WERE TO POLE THE CATHOLIC PEOPLE, IT'S >> THE THING IS IF YOU WERE TO POLE THE CATHOLIC PEOPLE, IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT THERE IS NO POLE THE CATHOLIC PEOPLE, IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT THERE IS NO GREAT UNANIMITY AMONG CATHOLICS VERY CLEAR THAT THERE IS NO GREAT UNANIMITY AMONG CATHOLICS BANNING CONTRACEPTIVES, I THINK GREAT UNANIMITY AMONG CATHOLICS BANNING CONTRACEPTIVES, I THINK WHAT HAPPENED IS CATHOLICS HAVE BANNING CONTRACEPTIVES, I THINK WHAT HAPPENED IS CATHOLICS HAVE GONE ALONG WITH THE BISHOPS, WHAT HAPPENED IS CATHOLICS HAVE GONE ALONG WITH THE BISHOPS, BEEN IN LOCK STEP NOW THAT THIS GONE ALONG WITH THE BISHOPS, BEEN IN LOCK STEP NOW THAT THIS COMPROMISE HAS BEEN PRESENTED BEEN IN LOCK STEP NOW THAT THIS COMPROMISE HAS BEEN PRESENTED THAT THE HOSPITAL ASSOCIATION COMPROMISE HAS BEEN PRESENTED THAT THE HOSPITAL ASSOCIATION HAS ACCEPTED, THIS IS A BREAKING THAT THE HOSPITAL ASSOCIATION HAS ACCEPTED, THIS IS A BREAKING OF THE RANKS I THINK THERE WILL HAS ACCEPTED, THIS IS A BREAKING OF THE RANKS I THINK THERE WILL BE A CASCADE OF FINDING THIS.

OF THE RANKS I THINK THERE WILL BE A CASCADE OF FINDING THIS.

>> THERE IS ALWAYS UNINTENDED BE A CASCADE OF FINDING THIS.

>> THERE IS ALWAYS UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.

>> THERE IS ALWAYS UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.

I THINK THAT THIS MANDATE, CONSEQUENCES.

I THINK THAT THIS MANDATE, SOMETHING THAT'S OVERLOOKED YOU I THINK THAT THIS MANDATE, SOMETHING THAT'S OVERLOOKED YOU START PROVIDING OR HEAVILY SOMETHING THAT'S OVERLOOKED YOU START PROVIDING OR HEAVILY SUBSIDIZING ALL CONTRACEPTION IT START PROVIDING OR HEAVILY SUBSIDIZING ALL CONTRACEPTION IT MEANS THAT WE'RE GOING TO SKEW SUBSIDIZING ALL CONTRACEPTION IT MEANS THAT WE'RE GOING TO SKEW THE MARKETPLACE.

MEANS THAT WE'RE GOING TO SKEW THE MARKETPLACE.

SUDDENLY THINGS LIKE THE THE MARKETPLACE.

SUDDENLY THINGS LIKE THE PROCEDURE TO PLACE IUD IS GOING SUDDENLY THINGS LIKE THE PROCEDURE TO PLACE IUD IS GOING TO BE COVERED PUSHING ALL SORTS PROCEDURE TO PLACE IUD IS GOING TO BE COVERED PUSHING ALL SORTS OF OTHER MANUFACTURERS OUT OF TO BE COVERED PUSHING ALL SORTS OF OTHER MANUFACTURERS OUT OF THE BUSINESS AND MOST OF OTHER MANUFACTURERS OUT OF THE BUSINESS AND MOST IMPORTANTLY GOING TO PUSH THE BUSINESS AND MOST IMPORTANTLY GOING TO PUSH CONDOMS OUT OF THE MARKETPLACE IMPORTANTLY GOING TO PUSH CONDOMS OUT OF THE MARKETPLACE WHICH IS ONLY THING THAT IS CONDOMS OUT OF THE MARKETPLACE WHICH IS ONLY THING THAT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO PROTECT WHICH IS ONLY THING THAT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO PROTECT AGAINST STDs THAT IS NOT ACTUALLY GOING TO PROTECT AGAINST STDs THAT IS NOT TALKED ABOUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT AGAINST STDs THAT IS NOT TALKED ABOUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CONTRACEPTION IT'S VERY TALKED ABOUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CONTRACEPTION IT'S VERY IMPORTANT POINT TO MAKE.

CONTRACEPTION IT'S VERY IMPORTANT POINT TO MAKE.

>> I HAVE TO SAY, THE THING IMPORTANT POINT TO MAKE.

>> I HAVE TO SAY, THE THING ABOUT THIS DEBATE I THOUGHT >> I HAVE TO SAY, THE THING ABOUT THIS DEBATE I THOUGHT TRAIN HAD LEFT THE STATION.

ABOUT THIS DEBATE I THOUGHT TRAIN HAD LEFT THE STATION.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A NEW TRAIN HAD LEFT THE STATION.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A NEW TECHNOLOGY OR SOMETHING THAT IS WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A NEW TECHNOLOGY OR SOMETHING THAT IS MYSTERY THAT COULD HAVE TECHNOLOGY OR SOMETHING THAT IS MYSTERY THAT COULD HAVE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES THAT YOU MYSTERY THAT COULD HAVE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES THAT YOU MENTION.

UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES THAT YOU MENTION.

BASIC SERVICES.

MENTION.

BASIC SERVICES.

>> IS IT TRUE THAT BASIC SERVICES.

>> IS IT TRUE THAT CONTRACEPTIVES, CONDOMS ARE NOT >> IS IT TRUE THAT CONTRACEPTIVES, CONDOMS ARE NOT CONSIDERED CONTRACEPTIVES ARE CONTRACEPTIVES, CONDOMS ARE NOT CONSIDERED CONTRACEPTIVES ARE NOT COVERED BY THE INSURANCE CONSIDERED CONTRACEPTIVES ARE NOT COVERED BY THE INSURANCE PLAN?

NOT COVERED BY THE INSURANCE PLAN?

>> I THINK OVER THE COUNTER PLAN?

>> I THINK OVER THE COUNTER CONTRACEPTIONS AND LET'S BE >> I THINK OVER THE COUNTER CONTRACEPTIONS AND LET'S BE HONEST WOMEN ARE GOING TO TAKE CONTRACEPTIONS AND LET'S BE HONEST WOMEN ARE GOING TO TAKE MORE RESPONSIBILITY THIS IS WHY HONEST WOMEN ARE GOING TO TAKE MORE RESPONSIBILITY THIS IS WHY THE MALE CONTRACEPTIVES HAVE NOT MORE RESPONSIBILITY THIS IS WHY THE MALE CONTRACEPTIVES HAVE NOT BEEN ADAPTED -- THE MALE CONTRACEPTIVES HAVE NOT BEEN ADAPTED -- >> I AM CURIOUS HERE.

BEEN ADAPTED -- >> I AM CURIOUS HERE.

YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT WHEN THIS >> I AM CURIOUS HERE.

YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT WHEN THIS LAW TAKES EFFECT THAT MORE WOMEN YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT WHEN THIS LAW TAKES EFFECT THAT MORE WOMEN WILL USE CONTRACEPTIVES AND LAW TAKES EFFECT THAT MORE WOMEN WILL USE CONTRACEPTIVES AND FEWER CONDOMS AND THERE FOR BE WILL USE CONTRACEPTIVES AND FEWER CONDOMS AND THERE FOR BE EXPOSED TO -- FEWER CONDOMS AND THERE FOR BE EXPOSED TO -- >> THAT'S AN ARGUMENT I HAVEN'T EXPOSED TO -- >> THAT'S AN ARGUMENT I HAVEN'T HEARD YET.

>> THAT'S AN ARGUMENT I HAVEN'T HEARD YET.

>> MORE AND MORE PEOPLE WILL SAY HEARD YET.

>> MORE AND MORE PEOPLE WILL SAY I'M ON BIRTH CONTROL OR I HAVE >> MORE AND MORE PEOPLE WILL SAY I'M ON BIRTH CONTROL OR I HAVE AN IUD FORGET THAT, GUESS WHAT, I'M ON BIRTH CONTROL OR I HAVE AN IUD FORGET THAT, GUESS WHAT, THAT DOESN'T PROTECT AGAINST AN IUD FORGET THAT, GUESS WHAT, THAT DOESN'T PROTECT AGAINST STDs.

THAT DOESN'T PROTECT AGAINST STDs.

>> WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO STDs.

>> WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH FREE EXERCISE.

>> WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH FREE EXERCISE.

>> WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT WITH FREE EXERCISE.

>> WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN IN THIS >> WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN IN THIS MARKETPLACE.

MIGHT HAPPEN IN THIS MARKETPLACE.

EVERYONE IS ASSUMING THAT MARKETPLACE.

EVERYONE IS ASSUMING THAT MANDATING FREE CONTRACEPTION IS EVERYONE IS ASSUMING THAT MANDATING FREE CONTRACEPTION IS A GOOD THING, ALL AROUND GOOD MANDATING FREE CONTRACEPTION IS A GOOD THING, ALL AROUND GOOD THING BUT THERE ARE UNINTENDED A GOOD THING, ALL AROUND GOOD THING BUT THERE ARE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES WE SHOULD CONSIDER.

THING BUT THERE ARE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES WE SHOULD CONSIDER.

>> BUT GETTING BACK -- MY MAIN CONSEQUENCES WE SHOULD CONSIDER.

>> BUT GETTING BACK -- MY MAIN QUESTION, I HAVEN'T HEARD YOUR >> BUT GETTING BACK -- MY MAIN QUESTION, I HAVEN'T HEARD YOUR RESPONSE TO THIS, I WOULD LIKE QUESTION, I HAVEN'T HEARD YOUR RESPONSE TO THIS, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR IT, THE FREE EXERCISE RESPONSE TO THIS, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR IT, THE FREE EXERCISE CLAUSE TALKS ABOUT -- WHEN I TO HEAR IT, THE FREE EXERCISE CLAUSE TALKS ABOUT -- WHEN I HEAR THE CHURCH CLAIMING THAT CLAUSE TALKS ABOUT -- WHEN I HEAR THE CHURCH CLAIMING THAT THEIR FREE EXER SEES RIGHTS ARE HEAR THE CHURCH CLAIMING THAT THEIR FREE EXER SEES RIGHTS ARE BEING VIOLATED I'M STUNNED.

THEIR FREE EXER SEES RIGHTS ARE BEING VIOLATED I'M STUNNED.

BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME THAT BEING VIOLATED I'M STUNNED.

BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME THAT NOBODY GOING IN TO THE CHURCH BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME THAT NOBODY GOING IN TO THE CHURCH SAYING YOU CAN'T BREACH AGAINST NOBODY GOING IN TO THE CHURCH SAYING YOU CAN'T BREACH AGAINST ABORTION, YOU CAN'T GET SAYING YOU CAN'T BREACH AGAINST ABORTION, YOU CAN'T GET POLITICALLY INVOLVED WHICH A LOT ABORTION, YOU CAN'T GET POLITICALLY INVOLVED WHICH A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH.

POLITICALLY INVOLVED WHICH A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH.

ALL THEY'RE SAYING IS THAT WHEN OF PEOPLE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH.

ALL THEY'RE SAYING IS THAT WHEN YOU WALK AWAY, AT LEAST A COUPLE ALL THEY'RE SAYING IS THAT WHEN YOU WALK AWAY, AT LEAST A COUPLE OF STEPS AWAY FROM THE PROCESS YOU WALK AWAY, AT LEAST A COUPLE OF STEPS AWAY FROM THE PROCESS OF RUNNING A CHURCH AND RUNNING OF STEPS AWAY FROM THE PROCESS OF RUNNING A CHURCH AND RUNNING A RELIGION YOU'RE NOW RUNNING OF RUNNING A CHURCH AND RUNNING A RELIGION YOU'RE NOW RUNNING BUSINESSES THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A RELIGION YOU'RE NOW RUNNING BUSINESSES THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO ASIDE BY FEDERAL LAW IT BUSINESSES THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO ASIDE BY FEDERAL LAW IT VIOLATES YOUR FREE EXERCISE TO ASIDE BY FEDERAL LAW IT VIOLATES YOUR FREE EXERCISE RIGHTS.

VIOLATES YOUR FREE EXERCISE RIGHTS.

>> I THINK SHE'S CORRECT THAT IT RIGHTS.

>> I THINK SHE'S CORRECT THAT IT GETS VERY BLURRY.

>> I THINK SHE'S CORRECT THAT IT GETS VERY BLURRY.

ANY GROUP THAT DOESN'T WANT TO GETS VERY BLURRY.

ANY GROUP THAT DOESN'T WANT TO PROVIDE SOMETHING WHETHER -- I ANY GROUP THAT DOESN'T WANT TO PROVIDE SOMETHING WHETHER -- I DON'T THINK THIS HAS TO DO WITH PROVIDE SOMETHING WHETHER -- I DON'T THINK THIS HAS TO DO WITH CATHOLICISM.

DON'T THINK THIS HAS TO DO WITH CATHOLICISM.

YOUR FREE EXERCISE OF SPEECH AND CATHOLICISM.

YOUR FREE EXERCISE OF SPEECH AND RELIGION WE'VE GOTTEN SO YOUR FREE EXERCISE OF SPEECH AND RELIGION WE'VE GOTTEN SO CONFUSED HERE WHAT THIS LAW RELIGION WE'VE GOTTEN SO CONFUSED HERE WHAT THIS LAW MEANS I DON'T THINK ANYONE AT CONFUSED HERE WHAT THIS LAW MEANS I DON'T THINK ANYONE AT THIS TABLE HAS UNIFIED VIEW OF MEANS I DON'T THINK ANYONE AT THIS TABLE HAS UNIFIED VIEW OF EXACTLY WITH IS COVERED WHAT IS THIS TABLE HAS UNIFIED VIEW OF EXACTLY WITH IS COVERED WHAT IS BEING MANDATED HERE.

EXACTLY WITH IS COVERED WHAT IS BEING MANDATED HERE.

>> WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE BEING MANDATED HERE.

>> WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE, >> WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE, WE TALK ABOUT THESE RELIGION SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE, WE TALK ABOUT THESE RELIGION FREEDOMS LOOK WHAT'S HAPPENING WE TALK ABOUT THESE RELIGION FREEDOMS LOOK WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE WORLD TODAY.

FREEDOMS LOOK WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE WORLD TODAY.

LOOK WHAT'S HAPPENING IN EGYPT, IN THE WORLD TODAY.

LOOK WHAT'S HAPPENING IN EGYPT, LOOK WHAT IS HAPPENING IN LOOK WHAT'S HAPPENING IN EGYPT, LOOK WHAT IS HAPPENING IN TURKEY.

LOOK WHAT IS HAPPENING IN TURKEY.

THESE WERE SOCIETIES WHERE THEY TURKEY.

THESE WERE SOCIETIES WHERE THEY EXPECT TO BE LIVING IN A THESE WERE SOCIETIES WHERE THEY EXPECT TO BE LIVING IN A DEMOCRACY AND LEADERS DECIDED EXPECT TO BE LIVING IN A DEMOCRACY AND LEADERS DECIDED THAT RELIGIOUS NORMS WERE GOING DEMOCRACY AND LEADERS DECIDED THAT RELIGIOUS NORMS WERE GOING TO BE THE LAW.

THAT RELIGIOUS NORMS WERE GOING TO BE THE LAW.

THAT THREATENS THE DEMOCRACY, TO BE THE LAW.

THAT THREATENS THE DEMOCRACY, WE'VE SEEN IT IN TURKEY AND THAT THREATENS THE DEMOCRACY, WE'VE SEEN IT IN TURKEY AND EGYPT.

WE'VE SEEN IT IN TURKEY AND EGYPT.

I THINK HAVING THIS RESPECT FOR EGYPT.

I THINK HAVING THIS RESPECT FOR AN ACCOMMODATION THAT MAKES THAT I THINK HAVING THIS RESPECT FOR AN ACCOMMODATION THAT MAKES THAT SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE AN ACCOMMODATION THAT MAKES THAT SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE IS GOOD FOR DEMOCRACY.

SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE IS GOOD FOR DEMOCRACY.

>> LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK.

IS GOOD FOR DEMOCRACY.

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FROM BIRTH CONTROL TO STERILIZATION.

FROM BIRTH CONTROL TO STERILIZATION.

NEARLY 150 FEMALE INMATES IN STERILIZATION.

NEARLY 150 FEMALE INMATES IN CALIFORNIA WERE STERILIZED NEARLY 150 FEMALE INMATES IN CALIFORNIA WERE STERILIZED BETWEEN 2006 AND 2010.

CALIFORNIA WERE STERILIZED BETWEEN 2006 AND 2010.

THAT ACCORDING TO THE CENTER FOR BETWEEN 2006 AND 2010.

THAT ACCORDING TO THE CENTER FOR INVESTIGATIVE REPORTING, WHICH THAT ACCORDING TO THE CENTER FOR INVESTIGATIVE REPORTING, WHICH ALSO REVEALS ANOTHER 100 WOMEN INVESTIGATIVE REPORTING, WHICH ALSO REVEALS ANOTHER 100 WOMEN PRISONERS IN CALIFORNIA WERE ALSO REVEALS ANOTHER 100 WOMEN PRISONERS IN CALIFORNIA WERE STERILIZED SINCE THE LATE PRISONERS IN CALIFORNIA WERE STERILIZED SINCE THE LATE 1990'S.

STERILIZED SINCE THE LATE 1990'S.

FORMER INMATES RECALL MEDICAL 1990'S.

FORMER INMATES RECALL MEDICAL STAFF PRESSURING PREGNANT WOMEN FORMER INMATES RECALL MEDICAL STAFF PRESSURING PREGNANT WOMEN TO UNDERGO STERILIZATION.

STAFF PRESSURING PREGNANT WOMEN TO UNDERGO STERILIZATION.

BUT A DOCTOR IN CHARGE OF OB/GYN TO UNDERGO STERILIZATION.

BUT A DOCTOR IN CHARGE OF OB/GYN SERVICES AT VALLEY STATE PRISON BUT A DOCTOR IN CHARGE OF OB/GYN SERVICES AT VALLEY STATE PRISON TOLD THE CENTER NOBODY WAS SERVICES AT VALLEY STATE PRISON TOLD THE CENTER NOBODY WAS PRESSURED.

TOLD THE CENTER NOBODY WAS PRESSURED.

AND IN FACT HE SAID PROCEDURE PRESSURED.

AND IN FACT HE SAID PROCEDURE WAS ONLY RECOMMENDED TO WOMEN AND IN FACT HE SAID PROCEDURE WAS ONLY RECOMMENDED TO WOMEN WITH MULTIPLE CHILDREN AND WHO WAS ONLY RECOMMENDED TO WOMEN WITH MULTIPLE CHILDREN AND WHO HAD SERVED MULTIPLE JAIL WITH MULTIPLE CHILDREN AND WHO HAD SERVED MULTIPLE JAIL SENTENCES.

HAD SERVED MULTIPLE JAIL SENTENCES.

A LICENSED PSYCHOLOGIST THERE SENTENCES.

A LICENSED PSYCHOLOGIST THERE TOLD THE CENTER, SOME PREGNANT A LICENSED PSYCHOLOGIST THERE TOLD THE CENTER, SOME PREGNANT INMATES, PARTICULARLY THOSE ON TOLD THE CENTER, SOME PREGNANT INMATES, PARTICULARLY THOSE ON DRUGS OR WHO WERE HOMELESS, INMATES, PARTICULARLY THOSE ON DRUGS OR WHO WERE HOMELESS, WOULD COMMIT CRIMES SO THEY DRUGS OR WHO WERE HOMELESS, WOULD COMMIT CRIMES SO THEY COULD RETURN TO PRISON FOR WOULD COMMIT CRIMES SO THEY COULD RETURN TO PRISON FOR BETTER HEALTH CARE.

COULD RETURN TO PRISON FOR BETTER HEALTH CARE.

THE PROCEDURES COST SOME BETTER HEALTH CARE.

THE PROCEDURES COST SOME $150,000 OVER A DECADE.

THE PROCEDURES COST SOME $150,000 OVER A DECADE.

TO SABRINA SCHAEFFER $150,000 OVER A DECADE.

TO SABRINA SCHAEFFER YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS?

TO SABRINA SCHAEFFER YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS?

>> I WAS CONCERNED WHEN I FIRST YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS?

>> I WAS CONCERNED WHEN I FIRST READ THE REPORT THAT THESE WOMEN >> I WAS CONCERNED WHEN I FIRST READ THE REPORT THAT THESE WOMEN WERE GENUINELY COERCED TO HAVING READ THE REPORT THAT THESE WOMEN WERE GENUINELY COERCED TO HAVING A MEDICAL PROCEDURE AND WERE GENUINELY COERCED TO HAVING A MEDICAL PROCEDURE AND STERILIZATION IS SERIOUS AGAINST A MEDICAL PROCEDURE AND STERILIZATION IS SERIOUS AGAINST THEIR WILL.

STERILIZATION IS SERIOUS AGAINST THEIR WILL.

I'M NOT QUITE SURE THAT'S THEIR WILL.

I'M NOT QUITE SURE THAT'S EXACTLY THE CASE.

I'M NOT QUITE SURE THAT'S EXACTLY THE CASE.

IF IT'S THE CASE THAT THEY WERE EXACTLY THE CASE.

IF IT'S THE CASE THAT THEY WERE SORT OF GIVEN EDUCATION AND IT IF IT'S THE CASE THAT THEY WERE SORT OF GIVEN EDUCATION AND IT WAS SUGGESTED TO THEM THIS MAY SORT OF GIVEN EDUCATION AND IT WAS SUGGESTED TO THEM THIS MAY BE GOOD FAMILY PLANNING FOR WAS SUGGESTED TO THEM THIS MAY BE GOOD FAMILY PLANNING FOR THEIR PARTICULAR SITUATION, THEN BE GOOD FAMILY PLANNING FOR THEIR PARTICULAR SITUATION, THEN I SUPPOSE THAT THEY MADE A THEIR PARTICULAR SITUATION, THEN I SUPPOSE THAT THEY MADE A CHOICE THAT FITS FOR THEIR I SUPPOSE THAT THEY MADE A CHOICE THAT FITS FOR THEIR PURPOSES.

CHOICE THAT FITS FOR THEIR PURPOSES.

>> THAT'S NOT THE STORY.

PURPOSES.

>> THAT'S NOT THE STORY.

AT LEAST SOME OF THE SAMPLES OF >> THAT'S NOT THE STORY.

AT LEAST SOME OF THE SAMPLES OF WOMEN THEY WERE IN LABOR, THEY AT LEAST SOME OF THE SAMPLES OF WOMEN THEY WERE IN LABOR, THEY WERE IN REALLY DIFFICULT MOMENTS WOMEN THEY WERE IN LABOR, THEY WERE IN REALLY DIFFICULT MOMENTS IN THEIR LIVES AND THE DOCTORS WERE IN REALLY DIFFICULT MOMENTS IN THEIR LIVES AND THE DOCTORS REPEATING AND REPEATING AND IN THEIR LIVES AND THE DOCTORS REPEATING AND REPEATING AND REPEATING, YOU SHOULD DO, THIS REPEATING AND REPEATING AND REPEATING, YOU SHOULD DO, THIS YOU SHOULD DO THIS.

REPEATING, YOU SHOULD DO, THIS YOU SHOULD DO THIS.

THEY WERE ADVISING WOMEN TO HAVE YOU SHOULD DO THIS.

THEY WERE ADVISING WOMEN TO HAVE MULTIPLE C HIGHWAY SECTIONS TO THEY WERE ADVISING WOMEN TO HAVE MULTIPLE C HIGHWAY SECTIONS TO DO IT BECAUSE THAT WAS BETTER MULTIPLE C HIGHWAY SECTIONS TO DO IT BECAUSE THAT WAS BETTER FOR THE HEALTH WHEN THE PRACTICE DO IT BECAUSE THAT WAS BETTER FOR THE HEALTH WHEN THE PRACTICE THAT'S NOT RECOMMENDED OF FOR THE HEALTH WHEN THE PRACTICE THAT'S NOT RECOMMENDED OF STERILIZATION IN ORDER TO THAT'S NOT RECOMMENDED OF STERILIZATION IN ORDER TO PROTECT YOUR HEALTH BECAUSE YOU STERILIZATION IN ORDER TO PROTECT YOUR HEALTH BECAUSE YOU HAVE C-SECTIONS IF YOU HAVE A PROTECT YOUR HEALTH BECAUSE YOU HAVE C-SECTIONS IF YOU HAVE A FOURTH CHILD YOU MAY DIE.

HAVE C-SECTIONS IF YOU HAVE A FOURTH CHILD YOU MAY DIE.

THEY WERE AT THE LINE.

FOURTH CHILD YOU MAY DIE.

THEY WERE AT THE LINE.

>> BUT LET ME ASK YOU THIS, THEY WERE AT THE LINE.

>> BUT LET ME ASK YOU THIS, BECAUSE I THINK THIS STORY >> BUT LET ME ASK YOU THIS, BECAUSE I THINK THIS STORY RAISES AN INTERESTING QUESTION BECAUSE I THINK THIS STORY RAISES AN INTERESTING QUESTION WHICH IS, I GUESS EVERYBODY RAISES AN INTERESTING QUESTION WHICH IS, I GUESS EVERYBODY WOULD AGREE THAT ALL AMERICANS WHICH IS, I GUESS EVERYBODY WOULD AGREE THAT ALL AMERICANS HAVE AN UNFETTERED RIGHT TO HAVE WOULD AGREE THAT ALL AMERICANS HAVE AN UNFETTERED RIGHT TO HAVE AS MANY KIDS AS THEY WANT NO HAVE AN UNFETTERED RIGHT TO HAVE AS MANY KIDS AS THEY WANT NO MATTER HOW INCAPABLE AS PARENTS.

AS MANY KIDS AS THEY WANT NO MATTER HOW INCAPABLE AS PARENTS.

I WOULD SAY SOMEBODY WHO LANDS MATTER HOW INCAPABLE AS PARENTS.

I WOULD SAY SOMEBODY WHO LANDS IN JAIL IS NOT A CAPABLE PARENT.

I WOULD SAY SOMEBODY WHO LANDS IN JAIL IS NOT A CAPABLE PARENT.

IN MANY CASES THESE WOMEN IN JAIL IS NOT A CAPABLE PARENT.

IN MANY CASES THESE WOMEN ALREADY HAD MULTIPLE CHILDREN, IN MANY CASES THESE WOMEN ALREADY HAD MULTIPLE CHILDREN, FOUR, FIVE, SIX.

ALREADY HAD MULTIPLE CHILDREN, FOUR, FIVE, SIX.

HAD BEEN IN -- RECIDIVISTS IN FOUR, FIVE, SIX.

HAD BEEN IN -- RECIDIVISTS IN JAIL AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN.

HAD BEEN IN -- RECIDIVISTS IN JAIL AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN.

SO DO THEY HAVE AN UNFETTERED JAIL AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN.

SO DO THEY HAVE AN UNFETTERED RIGHT TO KEEP DECREE KATEING SO DO THEY HAVE AN UNFETTERED RIGHT TO KEEP DECREE KATEING CHILDREN THAT THEY CAN'T RIGHT TO KEEP DECREE KATEING CHILDREN THAT THEY CAN'T PROPERLY TAKE CARE OF.

CHILDREN THAT THEY CAN'T PROPERLY TAKE CARE OF.

SECONDLY DO THEY HAVE PROPERLY TAKE CARE OF.

SECONDLY DO THEY HAVE UNFETTERED RIGHT FOR TAXPAYERS SECONDLY DO THEY HAVE UNFETTERED RIGHT FOR TAXPAYERS TO KEEP PAYING FOR THE MESSES UNFETTERED RIGHT FOR TAXPAYERS TO KEEP PAYING FOR THE MESSES THAT THEY MAKE IN THE FORM OF TO KEEP PAYING FOR THE MESSES THAT THEY MAKE IN THE FORM OF THESE CHILDREN WHO ARE NOT GOING THAT THEY MAKE IN THE FORM OF THESE CHILDREN WHO ARE NOT GOING TO CROW UP TO BE HAPPY PEOPLE THESE CHILDREN WHO ARE NOT GOING TO CROW UP TO BE HAPPY PEOPLE BECAUSE THEIR MOTHERS ARE TO CROW UP TO BE HAPPY PEOPLE BECAUSE THEIR MOTHERS ARE STEALING CARS AND ENDING UP IN BECAUSE THEIR MOTHERS ARE STEALING CARS AND ENDING UP IN JAIL.

STEALING CARS AND ENDING UP IN JAIL.

>> I'M GOING TO TAKE A STEP JAIL.

>> I'M GOING TO TAKE A STEP BACK.

>> I'M GOING TO TAKE A STEP BACK.

WE HAVE INCARCERATION PROBLEM IN BACK.

WE HAVE INCARCERATION PROBLEM IN THIS COUNTRY.

WE HAVE INCARCERATION PROBLEM IN THIS COUNTRY.

LOOKING AT -- I PULLED THIS THIS COUNTRY.

LOOKING AT -- I PULLED THIS INFORMATION, THERE ARE EIGHT LOOKING AT -- I PULLED THIS INFORMATION, THERE ARE EIGHT TIMES MORE WOMEN IN JAIL NOW INFORMATION, THERE ARE EIGHT TIMES MORE WOMEN IN JAIL NOW THAN THERE WERE IN 1980.

TIMES MORE WOMEN IN JAIL NOW THAN THERE WERE IN 1980.

AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMEN ARE 0% OF THAN THERE WERE IN 1980.

AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMEN ARE 0% OF THE JAIL POPULATION, ONLY 13% OF AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMEN ARE 0% OF THE JAIL POPULATION, ONLY 13% OF THE POPULATION OUTSIDE.

THE JAIL POPULATION, ONLY 13% OF THE POPULATION OUTSIDE.

WE'RE PUTTING PEOPLE OVERKILL THE POPULATION OUTSIDE.

WE'RE PUTTING PEOPLE OVERKILL NAMIZING PUTTING PEOPLE IN JAIL WE'RE PUTTING PEOPLE OVERKILL NAMIZING PUTTING PEOPLE IN JAIL ABOVE AND BEYOND KEEPING THEM NAMIZING PUTTING PEOPLE IN JAIL ABOVE AND BEYOND KEEPING THEM THERE.

ABOVE AND BEYOND KEEPING THEM THERE.

WE'RE SETTING THESE WOMEN UP FOR THERE.

WE'RE SETTING THESE WOMEN UP FOR A LIFE OF FAILURE.

WE'RE SETTING THESE WOMEN UP FOR A LIFE OF FAILURE.

I THINK THAT IS ONE CONCERN FOR A LIFE OF FAILURE.

I THINK THAT IS ONE CONCERN FOR ME.

I THINK THAT IS ONE CONCERN FOR ME.

ANOTHER CONCERN FOR ME IS HOW ME.

ANOTHER CONCERN FOR ME IS HOW CAN YOU MAKE AN INFORMED ANOTHER CONCERN FOR ME IS HOW CAN YOU MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION WHEN THERE ARE LAWS IN CAN YOU MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION WHEN THERE ARE LAWS IN CALIFORNIA AGAINST HAVING THESE DECISION WHEN THERE ARE LAWS IN CALIFORNIA AGAINST HAVING THESE QUESTIONS BROUGHT UP AND RAISED.

CALIFORNIA AGAINST HAVING THESE QUESTIONS BROUGHT UP AND RAISED.

THESE WOMEN ARE IN IN LABOR, QUESTIONS BROUGHT UP AND RAISED.

THESE WOMEN ARE IN IN LABOR, THEY'RE SHACKLED, UNDER DURESS, THESE WOMEN ARE IN IN LABOR, THEY'RE SHACKLED, UNDER DURESS, THERE ARE SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE.

THEY'RE SHACKLED, UNDER DURESS, THERE ARE SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE.

THEY USE STATE MONEY.

THERE ARE SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE.

THEY USE STATE MONEY.

STATE EVEN SAYS YOU HAVE TO THEY USE STATE MONEY.

STATE EVEN SAYS YOU HAVE TO HAVE -- THERE WERE ALL THESE STATE EVEN SAYS YOU HAVE TO HAVE -- THERE WERE ALL THESE DIFFERENT LAWS AND THINGS, HAVE -- THERE WERE ALL THESE DIFFERENT LAWS AND THINGS, BODIES WERE NOT NOTIFIED, DIFFERENT LAWS AND THINGS, BODIES WERE NOT NOTIFIED, CERTAINLY THESE WOMEN WERE BODIES WERE NOT NOTIFIED, CERTAINLY THESE WOMEN WERE TREATED VERY, VERY BADLY.

CERTAINLY THESE WOMEN WERE TREATED VERY, VERY BADLY.

EVEN IF THEY SHOULDN'T BE HAVING TREATED VERY, VERY BADLY.

EVEN IF THEY SHOULDN'T BE HAVING CHILDREN THEY DESERVE BETTER EVEN IF THEY SHOULDN'T BE HAVING CHILDREN THEY DESERVE BETTER THAN THIS.

CHILDREN THEY DESERVE BETTER THAN THIS.

>> THE CALIFORNIA PRISON SYSTEM THAN THIS.

>> THE CALIFORNIA PRISON SYSTEM IN FACT RIGHT NOW IS IN THE >> THE CALIFORNIA PRISON SYSTEM IN FACT RIGHT NOW IS IN THE MIDST OF THE PRISONERS ARE IN FACT RIGHT NOW IS IN THE MIDST OF THE PRISONERS ARE HAVING A FOOD STRIKE ON AN ISSUE MIDST OF THE PRISONERS ARE HAVING A FOOD STRIKE ON AN ISSUE THAT'S RELATED TO HEALTH AS HAVING A FOOD STRIKE ON AN ISSUE THAT'S RELATED TO HEALTH AS WELL.

THAT'S RELATED TO HEALTH AS WELL.

>> INCARCERATION OF -- THIS IS WELL.

>> INCARCERATION OF -- THIS IS MALE PRISONERS.

>> INCARCERATION OF -- THIS IS MALE PRISONERS.

BUT IN SOLITARY CONFINEMENT FOR MALE PRISONERS.

BUT IN SOLITARY CONFINEMENT FOR 25 YEARS.

BUT IN SOLITARY CONFINEMENT FOR 25 YEARS.

>> ACTUALLY THE BACKDROP HERE 25 YEARS.

>> ACTUALLY THE BACKDROP HERE AND CONTEXT WHICH I THINK IS >> ACTUALLY THE BACKDROP HERE AND CONTEXT WHICH I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT, BONNIE, IS AND CONTEXT WHICH I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT, BONNIE, IS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN UNDER REFER REALLY IMPORTANT, BONNIE, IS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN UNDER REFER SHIP SINCE 2006 THIS IS FAILURE THAT THEY HAVE BEEN UNDER REFER SHIP SINCE 2006 THIS IS FAILURE OF THE RECEIVER BECAUSE THEY SHIP SINCE 2006 THIS IS FAILURE OF THE RECEIVER BECAUSE THEY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT YOU HAVE OF THE RECEIVER BECAUSE THEY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT YOU HAVE TO GO TO A MEDICAL REVIEW BOARD SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT YOU HAVE TO GO TO A MEDICAL REVIEW BOARD TO HAVE THIS PROCEDURE DONE, TO GO TO A MEDICAL REVIEW BOARD TO HAVE THIS PROCEDURE DONE, STERILIZATION.

TO HAVE THIS PROCEDURE DONE, STERILIZATION.

THE RECEIVER MUST HAVE SEEN THAT STERILIZATION.

THE RECEIVER MUST HAVE SEEN THAT LINE ITEM AND THEY KNEW THAT THE RECEIVER MUST HAVE SEEN THAT LINE ITEM AND THEY KNEW THAT THEY HAD HEARD NOTHING ABOUT THE LINE ITEM AND THEY KNEW THAT THEY HAD HEARD NOTHING ABOUT THE PROCEDURES BEING DONE.

THEY HAD HEARD NOTHING ABOUT THE PROCEDURES BEING DONE.

SO I THINK MORE THAN ANYTHING PROCEDURES BEING DONE.

SO I THINK MORE THAN ANYTHING THIS STORY IS AN INDICTMENT ON SO I THINK MORE THAN ANYTHING THIS STORY IS AN INDICTMENT ON WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE THIS STORY IS AN INDICTMENT ON WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE CALIFORNIA PRISON SYSTEM.

WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE CALIFORNIA PRISON SYSTEM.

>> I AM NOT SURPRISED, I'M A CALIFORNIA PRISON SYSTEM.

>> I AM NOT SURPRISED, I'M A NATIVE CALIFORNIAN THERE'S WHOLE >> I AM NOT SURPRISED, I'M A NATIVE CALIFORNIAN THERE'S WHOLE LOT OF MESS THERE IN ALL SORTS NATIVE CALIFORNIAN THERE'S WHOLE LOT OF MESS THERE IN ALL SORTS OF THE STATE RUN SYSTEMS FROM LOT OF MESS THERE IN ALL SORTS OF THE STATE RUN SYSTEMS FROM THE WORKERS COMP SITUATION TO OF THE STATE RUN SYSTEMS FROM THE WORKERS COMP SITUATION TO THE PRISONS, TO THEIR HEALTH THE WORKERS COMP SITUATION TO THE PRISONS, TO THEIR HEALTH CARE, I THINK THIS IS AN EXAMPLE THE PRISONS, TO THEIR HEALTH CARE, I THINK THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE CALIFORNIA NEEDS TO CARE, I THINK THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE CALIFORNIA NEEDS TO TIGHTEN THE RAINS TAKE A STEP OF WHERE CALIFORNIA NEEDS TO TIGHTEN THE RAINS TAKE A STEP BACK.

TIGHTEN THE RAINS TAKE A STEP BACK.

>> LET'S SAY IT'S NOT JUST BACK.

>> LET'S SAY IT'S NOT JUST CALIFORNIA PROBLEM I DON'T KNOW >> LET'S SAY IT'S NOT JUST CALIFORNIA PROBLEM I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING ON IN OTHER AREAS CALIFORNIA PROBLEM I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING ON IN OTHER AREAS GETTING BACK TO MY QUESTION, DO IF IT'S GOING ON IN OTHER AREAS GETTING BACK TO MY QUESTION, DO YOU BELIEVE THAT WHETHER GETTING BACK TO MY QUESTION, DO YOU BELIEVE THAT WHETHER PRISONERS OR NOT PRISONERS YOU BELIEVE THAT WHETHER PRISONERS OR NOT PRISONERS PEOPLE HAVE A TOTALLY UNLIMITED PRISONERS OR NOT PRISONERS PEOPLE HAVE A TOTALLY UNLIMITED RIGHT TO HAVE AS MANY KIDS AS PEOPLE HAVE A TOTALLY UNLIMITED RIGHT TO HAVE AS MANY KIDS AS THEY WANT.

RIGHT TO HAVE AS MANY KIDS AS THEY WANT.

MOST PEOPLE WOULD AGREE TO THAT.

THEY WANT.

MOST PEOPLE WOULD AGREE TO THAT.

DO YOU AGREE -- DO YOU ALSO MOST PEOPLE WOULD AGREE TO THAT.

DO YOU AGREE -- DO YOU ALSO AGREE THAT THEY HAVE UNFETTERED DO YOU AGREE -- DO YOU ALSO AGREE THAT THEY HAVE UNFETTERED RIGHT TO GO ON ALL KINDS OF AGREE THAT THEY HAVE UNFETTERED RIGHT TO GO ON ALL KINDS OF GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE, TO HAVE RIGHT TO GO ON ALL KINDS OF GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE, TO HAVE THESE KIDS WHEN THEY CAN'T GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE, TO HAVE THESE KIDS WHEN THEY CAN'T AFFORD THEM TO TAKE CARE OF THESE KIDS WHEN THEY CAN'T AFFORD THEM TO TAKE CARE OF THEM.

AFFORD THEM TO TAKE CARE OF THEM.

>> WELL, YOU KNOW, I COME FROM THEM.

>> WELL, YOU KNOW, I COME FROM VIRGINIA.

>> WELL, YOU KNOW, I COME FROM VIRGINIA.

IN VIRGINIA WE HAVE A SHAMEFUL VIRGINIA.

IN VIRGINIA WE HAVE A SHAMEFUL HISTORY OF YOU'VE GENERAL I CANS IN VIRGINIA WE HAVE A SHAMEFUL HISTORY OF YOU'VE GENERAL I CANS IT WAS HEN VIRGINIA IN THE 1920 HISTORY OF YOU'VE GENERAL I CANS IT WAS HEN VIRGINIA IN THE 1920 THAT CASE WAS TAKEN TO THE IT WAS HEN VIRGINIA IN THE 1920 THAT CASE WAS TAKEN TO THE SUPREME COURT WHICH RESULT IN A THAT CASE WAS TAKEN TO THE SUPREME COURT WHICH RESULT IN A LOT OF LAWS THROUGHOUT THE SUPREME COURT WHICH RESULT IN A LOT OF LAWS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY THAT WOULD NOT ONLY MAKE LOT OF LAWS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY THAT WOULD NOT ONLY MAKE STERILELY SHAKES SOMETHING YOU COUNTRY THAT WOULD NOT ONLY MAKE STERILELY SHAKES SOMETHING YOU COULD DO BUT SOMETHING YOU MUST STERILELY SHAKES SOMETHING YOU COULD DO BUT SOMETHING YOU MUST DO IF A PERSON WAS MENTALLY ILL COULD DO BUT SOMETHING YOU MUST DO IF A PERSON WAS MENTALLY ILL AND I AM BASIL OR HAD EPILEPSY.

DO IF A PERSON WAS MENTALLY ILL AND I AM BASIL OR HAD EPILEPSY.

YES, THE PENDULUM HAS TO SWING AND I AM BASIL OR HAD EPILEPSY.

YES, THE PENDULUM HAS TO SWING IN EITHER DIRECTION, I WOULD YES, THE PENDULUM HAS TO SWING IN EITHER DIRECTION, I WOULD MUCH PREFER TO SEE IT SWING IN IN EITHER DIRECTION, I WOULD MUCH PREFER TO SEE IT SWING IN THE DIRECTION OF HUMAN RIGHTS.

MUCH PREFER TO SEE IT SWING IN THE DIRECTION OF HUMAN RIGHTS.

ALL RIGHT.

THE DIRECTION OF HUMAN RIGHTS.

ALL RIGHT.

BEHIND THE HEADLINES: ALL RIGHT.

BEHIND THE HEADLINES: HUMAN TRAFFICKING IS A $32 BEHIND THE HEADLINES: HUMAN TRAFFICKING IS A $32 BILLION PER YEAR INDUSTRY.

HUMAN TRAFFICKING IS A $32 BILLION PER YEAR INDUSTRY.

AROUND THE GLOBE, MILLIONS OF BILLION PER YEAR INDUSTRY.

AROUND THE GLOBE, MILLIONS OF YOUNG WOMEN AND MEN ARE FORCED AROUND THE GLOBE, MILLIONS OF YOUNG WOMEN AND MEN ARE FORCED INTO PROSTITUTION AND SLAVE YOUNG WOMEN AND MEN ARE FORCED INTO PROSTITUTION AND SLAVE LABOR EVERY YEAR.

INTO PROSTITUTION AND SLAVE LABOR EVERY YEAR.

BUT THERE ARE HEROINES WORKING LABOR EVERY YEAR.

BUT THERE ARE HEROINES WORKING TO COMBAT THE PROBLEM.

BUT THERE ARE HEROINES WORKING TO COMBAT THE PROBLEM.

STEP ONE: CREATE MORE AWARENESS.

TO COMBAT THE PROBLEM.

STEP ONE: CREATE MORE AWARENESS.

>> MANY PEOPLE THOUGHT THAT THIS STEP ONE: CREATE MORE AWARENESS.

>> MANY PEOPLE THOUGHT THAT THIS IS SOMEONE ELSE'S PROBLEM.

>> MANY PEOPLE THOUGHT THAT THIS IS SOMEONE ELSE'S PROBLEM.

UNTIL THEY STARTED TO UNDERSTAND IS SOMEONE ELSE'S PROBLEM.

UNTIL THEY STARTED TO UNDERSTAND THAT OFTEN RUNAWAY CHILDREN UNTIL THEY STARTED TO UNDERSTAND THAT OFTEN RUNAWAY CHILDREN PARTICULARLY LITTLE GIRLS CAN THAT OFTEN RUNAWAY CHILDREN PARTICULARLY LITTLE GIRLS CAN EASILY BE SEDUCED AND CONVINCED PARTICULARLY LITTLE GIRLS CAN EASILY BE SEDUCED AND CONVINCED THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE A EASILY BE SEDUCED AND CONVINCED THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE A MODEL, ARE GOING TO BE A DANCER THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE A MODEL, ARE GOING TO BE A DANCER AND THEY END UP NOT EVER SEEING MODEL, ARE GOING TO BE A DANCER AND THEY END UP NOT EVER SEEING THE LIGHT OF DAY AGAIN.

AND THEY END UP NOT EVER SEEING THE LIGHT OF DAY AGAIN.

>> MARILYN CARLSON NELSON OF THE THE LIGHT OF DAY AGAIN.

>> MARILYN CARLSON NELSON OF THE GLOBAL TRAVEL AND HOSPITALITY >> MARILYN CARLSON NELSON OF THE GLOBAL TRAVEL AND HOSPITALITY COMPANY, CARLSON COMPANIES, IS A GLOBAL TRAVEL AND HOSPITALITY COMPANY, CARLSON COMPANIES, IS A LEADER IN THE FIGHT AGAINST COMPANY, CARLSON COMPANIES, IS A LEADER IN THE FIGHT AGAINST HUMAN TRAFFICKING.

LEADER IN THE FIGHT AGAINST HUMAN TRAFFICKING.

SO IS HOMELAND SECURITY HUMAN TRAFFICKING.

SO IS HOMELAND SECURITY SECRETARY JANET NAPOLITANO.

SO IS HOMELAND SECURITY SECRETARY JANET NAPOLITANO.

ENDING SEX TRAFFICKING IS PART SECRETARY JANET NAPOLITANO.

ENDING SEX TRAFFICKING IS PART OF HER JOB, AS IS MAKING THE ENDING SEX TRAFFICKING IS PART OF HER JOB, AS IS MAKING THE AMERICAN PUBLIC MORE AWARE OF OF HER JOB, AS IS MAKING THE AMERICAN PUBLIC MORE AWARE OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING.

AMERICAN PUBLIC MORE AWARE OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING.

>> THERE'S NO COMMUNITY IN THE HUMAN TRAFFICKING.

>> THERE'S NO COMMUNITY IN THE UNITED STATES THAT IS IMMUNE TO >> THERE'S NO COMMUNITY IN THE UNITED STATES THAT IS IMMUNE TO THIS, IT IS AN INTERNATIONAL UNITED STATES THAT IS IMMUNE TO THIS, IT IS AN INTERNATIONAL PLAGUE, IT'S A PLAGUE WITHIN THE THIS, IT IS AN INTERNATIONAL PLAGUE, IT'S A PLAGUE WITHIN THE UNITED STATES.

PLAGUE, IT'S A PLAGUE WITHIN THE UNITED STATES.

>> IN APRIL, POLICE TOOK DOWN A UNITED STATES.

>> IN APRIL, POLICE TOOK DOWN A MAJOR TRAFFICKING RING IN >> IN APRIL, POLICE TOOK DOWN A MAJOR TRAFFICKING RING IN CARLSON NELSON'S HOME STATE OF MAJOR TRAFFICKING RING IN CARLSON NELSON'S HOME STATE OF MINNESOTA.

CARLSON NELSON'S HOME STATE OF MINNESOTA.

THE TWIN CITIES IS ONE OF THE MINNESOTA.

THE TWIN CITIES IS ONE OF THE UNITES STATES' LARGEST CENTERS THE TWIN CITIES IS ONE OF THE UNITES STATES' LARGEST CENTERS FOR CHILD PROSTITUTION.

UNITES STATES' LARGEST CENTERS FOR CHILD PROSTITUTION.

A 2010 STUDY FOUND ON ANY GIVEN FOR CHILD PROSTITUTION.

A 2010 STUDY FOUND ON ANY GIVEN NIGHT, 45 GIRLS ARE SOLD FOR A 2010 STUDY FOUND ON ANY GIVEN NIGHT, 45 GIRLS ARE SOLD FOR SEX.

NIGHT, 45 GIRLS ARE SOLD FOR SEX.

THE RATE HAS BEGUN TO DECLINE, SEX.

THE RATE HAS BEGUN TO DECLINE, DUE IN PART TO PROJECTS LIKE THE THE RATE HAS BEGUN TO DECLINE, DUE IN PART TO PROJECTS LIKE THE WOMEN'S FOUNDATION'S "MINNESOTA DUE IN PART TO PROJECTS LIKE THE WOMEN'S FOUNDATION'S "MINNESOTA GIRLS ARE NOT FOR SALE."

WOMEN'S FOUNDATION'S "MINNESOTA GIRLS ARE NOT FOR SALE."

CARLSON NELSON FIRST LEARNED OF GIRLS ARE NOT FOR SALE."

CARLSON NELSON FIRST LEARNED OF THE ENORMITY OF HUMAN CARLSON NELSON FIRST LEARNED OF THE ENORMITY OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING FROM QUEEN SILVIA OF THE ENORMITY OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING FROM QUEEN SILVIA OF SWEDEN TRAFFICKING FROM QUEEN SILVIA OF SWEDEN >> THE QUEEN SPOKE TO ME ABOUT SWEDEN >> THE QUEEN SPOKE TO ME ABOUT TRAVELING TOURISM AND THE FACT >> THE QUEEN SPOKE TO ME ABOUT TRAVELING TOURISM AND THE FACT THAT SOMETIMES THESE KINDS OF TRAVELING TOURISM AND THE FACT THAT SOMETIMES THESE KINDS OF SEXUAL EXPLOITATION TAKE PLACE THAT SOMETIMES THESE KINDS OF SEXUAL EXPLOITATION TAKE PLACE IN HOTELS, MOTELS AND TRAVEL.

SEXUAL EXPLOITATION TAKE PLACE IN HOTELS, MOTELS AND TRAVEL.

IT SOUNDED SERIOUS, IT WAS A IN HOTELS, MOTELS AND TRAVEL.

IT SOUNDED SERIOUS, IT WAS A DARK ISSUE, IT BEGAN TO CREEP IT SOUNDED SERIOUS, IT WAS A DARK ISSUE, IT BEGAN TO CREEP INTO MY CONSCIOUSNESS.

DARK ISSUE, IT BEGAN TO CREEP INTO MY CONSCIOUSNESS.

>> CARLSON NELSON BECAME THE INTO MY CONSCIOUSNESS.

>> CARLSON NELSON BECAME THE FIRST AMERICAN CEO TO SIGN AN >> CARLSON NELSON BECAME THE FIRST AMERICAN CEO TO SIGN AN INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENT, ECPAT FIRST AMERICAN CEO TO SIGN AN INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENT, ECPAT THE ACRONYM FOR END CHILD INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENT, ECPAT THE ACRONYM FOR END CHILD PROSTITUTION AND TRAFFICKING.

THE ACRONYM FOR END CHILD PROSTITUTION AND TRAFFICKING.

BY SIGNING, A COMPANY AGREES TO PROSTITUTION AND TRAFFICKING.

BY SIGNING, A COMPANY AGREES TO A CODE OF CONDUCT THAT INCLUDES BY SIGNING, A COMPANY AGREES TO A CODE OF CONDUCT THAT INCLUDES EDUCATING STAFF, SUPPLIERS AND A CODE OF CONDUCT THAT INCLUDES EDUCATING STAFF, SUPPLIERS AND CUSTOMERS ABOUT SEXUAL EDUCATING STAFF, SUPPLIERS AND CUSTOMERS ABOUT SEXUAL EXPLOITATION.

CUSTOMERS ABOUT SEXUAL EXPLOITATION.

>> I CAME BACK AND SPOKE TO MY EXPLOITATION.

>> I CAME BACK AND SPOKE TO MY COMPANY AND YOU CAN IMAGINE THE >> I CAME BACK AND SPOKE TO MY COMPANY AND YOU CAN IMAGINE THE FIRST THING PEOPLE SAID IS, COMPANY AND YOU CAN IMAGINE THE FIRST THING PEOPLE SAID IS, MARILYN, WE'RE IN THE HAPPINESS FIRST THING PEOPLE SAID IS, MARILYN, WE'RE IN THE HAPPINESS BUSINESS!

MARILYN, WE'RE IN THE HAPPINESS BUSINESS!

THIS IS THE KIND OF DARK SUBJECT BUSINESS!

THIS IS THE KIND OF DARK SUBJECT ALMOST TABOO TO TALK ABOUT, THIS IS THE KIND OF DARK SUBJECT ALMOST TABOO TO TALK ABOUT, USING CHILDREN IN THIS WAY.

ALMOST TABOO TO TALK ABOUT, USING CHILDREN IN THIS WAY.

IT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST USING CHILDREN IN THIS WAY.

IT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST HEINOUS CRIMES THERE IS IN THE IT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST HEINOUS CRIMES THERE IS IN THE WORLD.

HEINOUS CRIMES THERE IS IN THE WORLD.

>> SHE THEN CONVINCED OTHER WORLD.

>> SHE THEN CONVINCED OTHER CORPORATE LEADERS FROM HILTON >> SHE THEN CONVINCED OTHER CORPORATE LEADERS FROM HILTON HOTELS AND DELTA AIRLINES, AMONG CORPORATE LEADERS FROM HILTON HOTELS AND DELTA AIRLINES, AMONG OTHERS TO GET ON BOARD.

HOTELS AND DELTA AIRLINES, AMONG OTHERS TO GET ON BOARD.

>> HEIFER DAY WE GO ABOUT OUR OTHERS TO GET ON BOARD.

>> HEIFER DAY WE GO ABOUT OUR LIVES -- >> HEIFER DAY WE GO ABOUT OUR LIVES -- >> FOR IT'S PART DEPARTMENT OF LIVES -- >> FOR IT'S PART DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY RECENTLY >> FOR IT'S PART DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY RECENTLY RE-LAUNCHED THE BLUE CAMPAIGN, A HOMELAND SECURITY RECENTLY RE-LAUNCHED THE BLUE CAMPAIGN, A COMPREHENSIVE ANTI-TRAFFICKING RE-LAUNCHED THE BLUE CAMPAIGN, A COMPREHENSIVE ANTI-TRAFFICKING PROJECT THAT INCLUDES TRAINING.

COMPREHENSIVE ANTI-TRAFFICKING PROJECT THAT INCLUDES TRAINING.

>> WE WORK WITH AIRLINES PROJECT THAT INCLUDES TRAINING.

>> WE WORK WITH AIRLINES CARRIERS, DELTA FOR EXAMPLE TO >> WE WORK WITH AIRLINES CARRIERS, DELTA FOR EXAMPLE TO TRAIN EMPLOYEES ON HOW TO SPOT CARRIERS, DELTA FOR EXAMPLE TO TRAIN EMPLOYEES ON HOW TO SPOT SOME OF THE SIGNS OF HUMAN TRAIN EMPLOYEES ON HOW TO SPOT SOME OF THE SIGNS OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING.

SOME OF THE SIGNS OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING.

WE'RE DOING THAT THROUGHOUT THE TRAFFICKING.

WE'RE DOING THAT THROUGHOUT THE TRANSPORTATION INDUSTRY, THE WE'RE DOING THAT THROUGHOUT THE TRANSPORTATION INDUSTRY, THE HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY, AND OTHERS TRANSPORTATION INDUSTRY, THE HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY, AND OTHERS TRYING TO INCREASE THE PUBLIC'S HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY, AND OTHERS TRYING TO INCREASE THE PUBLIC'S AWARENESS OF THIS PROBLEM.

TRYING TO INCREASE THE PUBLIC'S AWARENESS OF THIS PROBLEM.

WE TRAIN MORE LAW ENFORCE.

AWARENESS OF THIS PROBLEM.

WE TRAIN MORE LAW ENFORCE.

OFMENT AROUND THE COUNTRY.

WE TRAIN MORE LAW ENFORCE.

OFMENT AROUND THE COUNTRY.

ALL OF THAT HELPS US I THINK OFMENT AROUND THE COUNTRY.

ALL OF THAT HELPS US I THINK MAKE A REAL DENT IN TRAFFICKING.

ALL OF THAT HELPS US I THINK MAKE A REAL DENT IN TRAFFICKING.

>> BUT NAPOLITANO SAYS MAKE A REAL DENT IN TRAFFICKING.

>> BUT NAPOLITANO SAYS REINTEGRATING MINOR GIRLS WHO >> BUT NAPOLITANO SAYS REINTEGRATING MINOR GIRLS WHO ESCAPE SEX TRAFFICKING BACK INTO REINTEGRATING MINOR GIRLS WHO ESCAPE SEX TRAFFICKING BACK INTO SOCIETY IS NOT EASY.

ESCAPE SEX TRAFFICKING BACK INTO SOCIETY IS NOT EASY.

>> THEY'VE GONE THROUGH A VERY SOCIETY IS NOT EASY.

>> THEY'VE GONE THROUGH A VERY DAMAGING EXPERIENCE AND SO ONE >> THEY'VE GONE THROUGH A VERY DAMAGING EXPERIENCE AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE DOING IS DAMAGING EXPERIENCE AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE DOING IS CONNECTING WITH ALL OF THE GREAT OF THE THINGS WE'RE DOING IS CONNECTING WITH ALL OF THE GREAT SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS THROUGHOUT CONNECTING WITH ALL OF THE GREAT SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY WHO WANT TO PROVIDE SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY WHO WANT TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE TO THESE VICTIMS.

THE COUNTRY WHO WANT TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE TO THESE VICTIMS.

>> IN MINNESOTA THE WOMEN'S ASSISTANCE TO THESE VICTIMS.

>> IN MINNESOTA THE WOMEN'S FOUNDATION HELPED PASS THE 2011 >> IN MINNESOTA THE WOMEN'S FOUNDATION HELPED PASS THE 2011 SAFE HARBOR LAW RECOGNIZING FOUNDATION HELPED PASS THE 2011 SAFE HARBOR LAW RECOGNIZING CHILD PROSTITUTES AS VICTIMS OF SAFE HARBOR LAW RECOGNIZING CHILD PROSTITUTES AS VICTIMS OF ABUSE GRANTING THEM IMMUNITY CHILD PROSTITUTES AS VICTIMS OF ABUSE GRANTING THEM IMMUNITY FROM PROSECUTION.

ABUSE GRANTING THEM IMMUNITY FROM PROSECUTION.

>> THEIR SOUL HAS BEEN RIPPED IN FROM PROSECUTION.

>> THEIR SOUL HAS BEEN RIPPED IN A WAY THAT THEIR OWN SENSE OF >> THEIR SOUL HAS BEEN RIPPED IN A WAY THAT THEIR OWN SENSE OF VALUE HAS REALLY DISAPPEARED.

VALUE HAS REALLY DISAPPEARED.

>> DESPITE THE NATURE OF THE >> DESPITE THE NATURE OF THE CRIME, THE DEPARTMENT'S HAD >> DESPITE THE NATURE OF THE CRIME, THE DEPARTMENT'S HAD QUITE A FEW SUCCESS STORIES.

CRIME, THE DEPARTMENT'S HAD QUITE A FEW SUCCESS STORIES.

>> WE HAVE ONE CASE INVOLVING A QUITE A FEW SUCCESS STORIES.

>> WE HAVE ONE CASE INVOLVING A PERSON WHO NOTICED THERE WAS A >> WE HAVE ONE CASE INVOLVING A PERSON WHO NOTICED THERE WAS A TEENAGE GIRL IN THE HOUSE NEXT PERSON WHO NOTICED THERE WAS A TEENAGE GIRL IN THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR WHO NEVER SEEMED TO GO TO TEENAGE GIRL IN THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR WHO NEVER SEEMED TO GO TO SCHOOL, WHO NEVER SEEMED TO DOOR WHO NEVER SEEMED TO GO TO SCHOOL, WHO NEVER SEEMED TO LEAVE AND REPORTED IT.

SCHOOL, WHO NEVER SEEMED TO LEAVE AND REPORTED IT.

WE INVESTIGATED THROUGH LEAVE AND REPORTED IT.

WE INVESTIGATED THROUGH IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS WE INVESTIGATED THROUGH IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT FOUND THAT IT WAS IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT FOUND THAT IT WAS BASICALLY SLAVERY.

ENFORCEMENT FOUND THAT IT WAS BASICALLY SLAVERY.

IT WAS FREE LABOR IN THE HOME, BASICALLY SLAVERY.

IT WAS FREE LABOR IN THE HOME, THE OWNERS OF THE HOME WERE IT WAS FREE LABOR IN THE HOME, THE OWNERS OF THE HOME WERE ARRESTED AND PROSECUTED.

THE OWNERS OF THE HOME WERE ARRESTED AND PROSECUTED.

THE YOUNG WOMEN WHO WE WERE ABLE ARRESTED AND PROSECUTED.

THE YOUNG WOMEN WHO WE WERE ABLE TO RESCUE IS IN COLLEGE AND NOW THE YOUNG WOMEN WHO WE WERE ABLE TO RESCUE IS IN COLLEGE AND NOW WANTS TO BE AN ICE AGENT.

TO RESCUE IS IN COLLEGE AND NOW WANTS TO BE AN ICE AGENT.

>> INCREDIBLE STORY WHEN YOU WANTS TO BE AN ICE AGENT.

>> INCREDIBLE STORY WHEN YOU THINK IT'S NOT JUST FINDING >> INCREDIBLE STORY WHEN YOU THINK IT'S NOT JUST FINDING THESE MAINLY YOUNG WOMEN, 80% OF THINK IT'S NOT JUST FINDING THESE MAINLY YOUNG WOMEN, 80% OF PEOPLE WHO ARE TRAFFICKED ARE THESE MAINLY YOUNG WOMEN, 80% OF PEOPLE WHO ARE TRAFFICKED ARE WOMEN AND GIRLS GLOBALLY THAT IS PEOPLE WHO ARE TRAFFICKED ARE WOMEN AND GIRLS GLOBALLY THAT IS ANYWAY.

WOMEN AND GIRLS GLOBALLY THAT IS ANYWAY.

IT'S ALSO -- THINK ABOUT THAT ANYWAY.

IT'S ALSO -- THINK ABOUT THAT EXPERIENCE AND TRYING TO LIVE A IT'S ALSO -- THINK ABOUT THAT EXPERIENCE AND TRYING TO LIVE A NORMAL LIFE AFTER THAT.

EXPERIENCE AND TRYING TO LIVE A NORMAL LIFE AFTER THAT.

>> WELL, I'M THE MOTHER OF A NORMAL LIFE AFTER THAT.

>> WELL, I'M THE MOTHER OF A 14-YEAR-OLD GIRL, IMAGINE THIS >> WELL, I'M THE MOTHER OF A 14-YEAR-OLD GIRL, IMAGINE THIS IS VERY PERSONAL AT THIS STAGE 14-YEAR-OLD GIRL, IMAGINE THIS IS VERY PERSONAL AT THIS STAGE OF MY LIFE BECAUSE THAT THE AGE IS VERY PERSONAL AT THIS STAGE OF MY LIFE BECAUSE THAT THE AGE THAT A LOT OF THESE YOUNG GIRLS OF MY LIFE BECAUSE THAT THE AGE THAT A LOT OF THESE YOUNG GIRLS ARE TRAPPED IN THIS SITUATION, THAT A LOT OF THESE YOUNG GIRLS ARE TRAPPED IN THIS SITUATION, THEY ARE TOLD YOU'RE GOING TO BE ARE TRAPPED IN THIS SITUATION, THEY ARE TOLD YOU'RE GOING TO BE A MODEL, DANCER, TURN IN TO THEY ARE TOLD YOU'RE GOING TO BE A MODEL, DANCER, TURN IN TO PROSTITUTION.

A MODEL, DANCER, TURN IN TO PROSTITUTION.

I THINK THE WORK THAT CARLSON IS PROSTITUTION.

I THINK THE WORK THAT CARLSON IS DOING IN TERMS OF AWARENESS AT I THINK THE WORK THAT CARLSON IS DOING IN TERMS OF AWARENESS AT ALL LEVELS, NAPOLITANO ON DOING IN TERMS OF AWARENESS AT ALL LEVELS, NAPOLITANO ON FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND I'M VERY ALL LEVELS, NAPOLITANO ON FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND I'M VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE MINNESOTA LAW FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND I'M VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE MINNESOTA LAW THE SAFE HARBOR LAW.

IMPRESSED WITH THE MINNESOTA LAW THE SAFE HARBOR LAW.

I NEVER REALLY THOUGHT OF THAT THE SAFE HARBOR LAW.

I NEVER REALLY THOUGHT OF THAT AT THAT POINT.

I NEVER REALLY THOUGHT OF THAT AT THAT POINT.

CHILD PROSTITUTION IS NOT A FREE AT THAT POINT.

CHILD PROSTITUTION IS NOT A FREE WILL OF THIS LITTLE GIRL GOING CHILD PROSTITUTION IS NOT A FREE WILL OF THIS LITTLE GIRL GOING TO SELL THEIR BODIES.

WILL OF THIS LITTLE GIRL GOING TO SELL THEIR BODIES.

THEY HAVE BEEN ENTICED BY ADULTS TO SELL THEIR BODIES.

THEY HAVE BEEN ENTICED BY ADULTS IN THAT BUSINESS THE GOVERNMENT THEY HAVE BEEN ENTICED BY ADULTS IN THAT BUSINESS THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD LOOK AT THAT DIFFERENTLY.

IN THAT BUSINESS THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD LOOK AT THAT DIFFERENTLY.

>> WHOLE COTTAGE INDUSTRY NOW OF SHOULD LOOK AT THAT DIFFERENTLY.

>> WHOLE COTTAGE INDUSTRY NOW OF NGOs IS COMING TOGETHER, >> WHOLE COTTAGE INDUSTRY NOW OF NGOs IS COMING TOGETHER, THERE'S ONE IN WASHINGTON, NGOs IS COMING TOGETHER, THERE'S ONE IN WASHINGTON, CITIZENS AT RISK.

THERE'S ONE IN WASHINGTON, CITIZENS AT RISK.

THEY HAVE BEEN TRAINING STEWARD CITIZENS AT RISK.

THEY HAVE BEEN TRAINING STEWARD DEFENSES -- THEY HAVE BEEN TRAINING STEWARD DEFENSES -- >> FLIGHT 'DEPENDENTS.

DEFENSES -- >> FLIGHT 'DEPENDENTS.

>> AND THEY HAVE ACTUALLY THIS >> FLIGHT 'DEPENDENTS.

>> AND THEY HAVE ACTUALLY THIS NEW PROGRAM WHERE THEY'RE >> AND THEY HAVE ACTUALLY THIS NEW PROGRAM WHERE THEY'RE APPROACHING AIR LINES GET THIS NEW PROGRAM WHERE THEY'RE APPROACHING AIR LINES GET THIS LITTLE PUBLIC EDUCATION BROCHURE APPROACHING AIR LINES GET THIS LITTLE PUBLIC EDUCATION BROCHURE PUT IN YOUR POCKET THERE SO THAT LITTLE PUBLIC EDUCATION BROCHURE PUT IN YOUR POCKET THERE SO THAT WHILE YOU'RE ON THE PLANE YOU PUT IN YOUR POCKET THERE SO THAT WHILE YOU'RE ON THE PLANE YOU CAN READ ABOUT WHAT THIS LOOKS WHILE YOU'RE ON THE PLANE YOU CAN READ ABOUT WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE AND WHEN YOU CAN IDENTIFY.

CAN READ ABOUT WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE AND WHEN YOU CAN IDENTIFY.

I JUST THINK OF OUR WHOLE LIKE AND WHEN YOU CAN IDENTIFY.

I JUST THINK OF OUR WHOLE SOCIETY BECOMES EDUCATED THAT IT I JUST THINK OF OUR WHOLE SOCIETY BECOMES EDUCATED THAT IT WILL CHANGE THE EQUATION.

SOCIETY BECOMES EDUCATED THAT IT WILL CHANGE THE EQUATION.

THIS IS NOT SOMETHING ANYONE WILL CHANGE THE EQUATION.

THIS IS NOT SOMETHING ANYONE EVER WANTED TO THINK ABOUT.

THIS IS NOT SOMETHING ANYONE EVER WANTED TO THINK ABOUT.

>> WE'RE TALL IN AGREEMENT.

EVER WANTED TO THINK ABOUT.

>> WE'RE TALL IN AGREEMENT.

NOBODY AT THIS TABLE TO PRO >> WE'RE TALL IN AGREEMENT.

NOBODY AT THIS TABLE TO PRO HUMAN TRAFFICKING.

NOBODY AT THIS TABLE TO PRO HUMAN TRAFFICKING.

BUT THIS TO ME -- HUMAN TRAFFICKING.

BUT THIS TO ME -- >> YOU KNOW WHAT IS AMAZING TO BUT THIS TO ME -- >> YOU KNOW WHAT IS AMAZING TO ME, TOO, IT'S GROWING.

>> YOU KNOW WHAT IS AMAZING TO ME, TOO, IT'S GROWING.

>> IT'S GROWING.

ME, TOO, IT'S GROWING.

>> IT'S GROWING.

>> AND SOME PEOPLE ARE -- I'VE >> IT'S GROWING.

>> AND SOME PEOPLE ARE -- I'VE NOTICED INCREASED AWARENESS >> AND SOME PEOPLE ARE -- I'VE NOTICED INCREASED AWARENESS RECENTLY BUT STILL MOST NOTICED INCREASED AWARENESS RECENTLY BUT STILL MOST AMERICANS HAVE NO IDEA THIS IS RECENTLY BUT STILL MOST AMERICANS HAVE NO IDEA THIS IS GOING GLOB EXACTLY.

AMERICANS HAVE NO IDEA THIS IS GOING GLOB EXACTLY.

RAISING AWARENESS BUT TO ME THIS GOING GLOB EXACTLY.

RAISING AWARENESS BUT TO ME THIS IS HARD TO FIND.

RAISING AWARENESS BUT TO ME THIS IS HARD TO FIND.

THIS IS DIFFICULT TO PROSECUTE, IS HARD TO FIND.

THIS IS DIFFICULT TO PROSECUTE, THIS IS EXPENSIVE.

THIS IS DIFFICULT TO PROSECUTE, THIS IS EXPENSIVE.

JUST LIKE PROSECUTING RAPE CASES THIS IS EXPENSIVE.

JUST LIKE PROSECUTING RAPE CASES ALL THESE UNOPEN, UNTESTED RAPE JUST LIKE PROSECUTING RAPE CASES ALL THESE UNOPEN, UNTESTED RAPE KITS.

ALL THESE UNOPEN, UNTESTED RAPE KITS.

WE LOOK AT OUR SYSTEM OF LAW KITS.

WE LOOK AT OUR SYSTEM OF LAW ENFORCEMENT IT'S EASIER TO PULL WE LOOK AT OUR SYSTEM OF LAW ENFORCEMENT IT'S EASIER TO PULL SOMEONE OVER FOR SPEEDING TO -- ENFORCEMENT IT'S EASIER TO PULL SOMEONE OVER FOR SPEEDING TO -- THAN IT IS TO DO THESE LONG SOMEONE OVER FOR SPEEDING TO -- THAN IT IS TO DO THESE LONG DETAILED INVESTIGATIONS WHERE THAN IT IS TO DO THESE LONG DETAILED INVESTIGATIONS WHERE YOU HAVE FEWER PAYOFFS THESE ARE DETAILED INVESTIGATIONS WHERE YOU HAVE FEWER PAYOFFS THESE ARE MUCH MORE HIGH IMPACT.

YOU HAVE FEWER PAYOFFS THESE ARE MUCH MORE HIGH IMPACT.

TO ME, THAT'S REALLY CALLS FOR MUCH MORE HIGH IMPACT.

TO ME, THAT'S REALLY CALLS FOR BIG REEXAMINATION OF WHAT OUR TO ME, THAT'S REALLY CALLS FOR BIG REEXAMINATION OF WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE.

BIG REEXAMINATION OF WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE.

>> I THOUGHT THIS STORY IN PRIORITIES ARE.

>> I THOUGHT THIS STORY IN PARTICULAR HELPED JAR AWARENESS, >> I THOUGHT THIS STORY IN PARTICULAR HELPED JAR AWARENESS, BECAUSE VERY OFTEN WE TALK ABOUT PARTICULAR HELPED JAR AWARENESS, BECAUSE VERY OFTEN WE TALK ABOUT SEX TRAFFICKING WE'RE THINKING BECAUSE VERY OFTEN WE TALK ABOUT SEX TRAFFICKING WE'RE THINKING ABOUT WOMEN OVERSEAS IT'S MUCH SEX TRAFFICKING WE'RE THINKING ABOUT WOMEN OVERSEAS IT'S MUCH HARDER TO GET AMERICANS AND ABOUT WOMEN OVERSEAS IT'S MUCH HARDER TO GET AMERICANS AND WESTERNERS TO THINK ABOUT WHAT HARDER TO GET AMERICANS AND WESTERNERS TO THINK ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON IN FOREIGN CITIES WESTERNERS TO THINK ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON IN FOREIGN CITIES AND COUNTRIES.

IS GOING ON IN FOREIGN CITIES AND COUNTRIES.

SO I THINK THIS MIGHT HELP ON A AND COUNTRIES.

SO I THINK THIS MIGHT HELP ON A GLOBAL LEVEL.

SO I THINK THIS MIGHT HELP ON A GLOBAL LEVEL.

>> $32 BILLION BUSINESS, 100 GLOBAL LEVEL.

>> $32 BILLION BUSINESS, 100 MILLION THAT HAVE RIGHT HERE IN >> $32 BILLION BUSINESS, 100 MILLION THAT HAVE RIGHT HERE IN OUR WASHINGTON AREA.

MILLION THAT HAVE RIGHT HERE IN OUR WASHINGTON AREA.

>> WHAT DO YOU SEE IS THE WAY TO OUR WASHINGTON AREA.

>> WHAT DO YOU SEE IS THE WAY TO GET AT IT, AGAIN, LET'S TALK >> WHAT DO YOU SEE IS THE WAY TO GET AT IT, AGAIN, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT THIS LARGELY GET AT IT, AGAIN, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT THIS LARGELY INTERNET AND INCREASED TRAVEL ABOUT THE FACT THAT THIS LARGELY INTERNET AND INCREASED TRAVEL DRIVEN.

INTERNET AND INCREASED TRAVEL DRIVEN.

>> IT'S A GREAT IDEA THEY'RE DRIVEN.

>> IT'S A GREAT IDEA THEY'RE PUSHING HARD FROM ALL SECTORS.

>> IT'S A GREAT IDEA THEY'RE PUSHING HARD FROM ALL SECTORS.

BUT THEN ALSO THIS IS SOMETHING PUSHING HARD FROM ALL SECTORS.

BUT THEN ALSO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU GET A RESPONSE FROM BUT THEN ALSO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU GET A RESPONSE FROM WOMEN AND MOTHERS.

THAT YOU GET A RESPONSE FROM WOMEN AND MOTHERS.

I DO THINK THAT THE PUBLIC WOMEN AND MOTHERS.

I DO THINK THAT THE PUBLIC EDUCATION IS GOING TO CHANGE THE I DO THINK THAT THE PUBLIC EDUCATION IS GOING TO CHANGE THE EQUATION ON IT.

EDUCATION IS GOING TO CHANGE THE EQUATION ON IT.

>> YOU NEED TO TALK TO YOUR EQUATION ON IT.

>> YOU NEED TO TALK TO YOUR CHILDREN I THINK BECAUSE VERY >> YOU NEED TO TALK TO YOUR CHILDREN I THINK BECAUSE VERY EASY TO SUDDENLY BECOME CHILDREN I THINK BECAUSE VERY EASY TO SUDDENLY BECOME HYSTERICAL OVER SOMETHING LIKE EASY TO SUDDENLY BECOME HYSTERICAL OVER SOMETHING LIKE THIS, NOT LET YOUR KIDS WALK TO HYSTERICAL OVER SOMETHING LIKE THIS, NOT LET YOUR KIDS WALK TO THE PARK OR GO TO THE MOVIES.

THIS, NOT LET YOUR KIDS WALK TO THE PARK OR GO TO THE MOVIES.

WE DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN THAT THE PARK OR GO TO THE MOVIES.

WE DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN THAT KIND OF SOCIETY.

WE DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN THAT KIND OF SOCIETY.

BUT HAVING THAT COMMUNICATION KIND OF SOCIETY.

BUT HAVING THAT COMMUNICATION WITH YOUR CHILDREN AS THEY GET BUT HAVING THAT COMMUNICATION WITH YOUR CHILDREN AS THEY GET TO BE IN THEIR TEENAGE YEARS, WITH YOUR CHILDREN AS THEY GET TO BE IN THEIR TEENAGE YEARS, THESE ARE THE RULES.

TO BE IN THEIR TEENAGE YEARS, THESE ARE THE RULES.

THESE ARE THE PEOPLE YOU SPEAK THESE ARE THE RULES.

THESE ARE THE PEOPLE YOU SPEAK TO.

THESE ARE THE PEOPLE YOU SPEAK TO.

>> HOW DO YOU APPLY THAT TO THE TO.

>> HOW DO YOU APPLY THAT TO THE INTERNET, THOUGH.

>> HOW DO YOU APPLY THAT TO THE INTERNET, THOUGH.

BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE A LOT OF INTERNET, THOUGH.

BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE A LOT OF THESE -- WHAT DO YOU SAY TO YOUR BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE A LOT OF THESE -- WHAT DO YOU SAY TO YOUR KIDS, I HAVE TO SEE EVERYTHING THESE -- WHAT DO YOU SAY TO YOUR KIDS, I HAVE TO SEE EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO ON THE INTERNET?

KIDS, I HAVE TO SEE EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO ON THE INTERNET?

HOW DOES THAT WORK?

THAT YOU DO ON THE INTERNET?

HOW DOES THAT WORK?

>> YOU TALK ABOUT IT, BECAUSE I HOW DOES THAT WORK?

>> YOU TALK ABOUT IT, BECAUSE I DEAL WITH THAT ALL THE TIME WITH >> YOU TALK ABOUT IT, BECAUSE I DEAL WITH THAT ALL THE TIME WITH MY KIDS.

DEAL WITH THAT ALL THE TIME WITH MY KIDS.

REALLY THE CONCEPT OF THE MY KIDS.

REALLY THE CONCEPT OF THE INTERNET WHEN YOU ARE IN PUBLIC REALLY THE CONCEPT OF THE INTERNET WHEN YOU ARE IN PUBLIC TERRITORY AND WHEN YOU TALK TO A INTERNET WHEN YOU ARE IN PUBLIC TERRITORY AND WHEN YOU TALK TO A STRANGER ONLINE IT'S LIKE YOU'RE TERRITORY AND WHEN YOU TALK TO A STRANGER ONLINE IT'S LIKE YOU'RE TALKING TO A STRANGER IN A PARK.

STRANGER ONLINE IT'S LIKE YOU'RE TALKING TO A STRANGER IN A PARK.

THEY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT.

TALKING TO A STRANGER IN A PARK.

THEY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT.

WHEN THEY PUT THEMSELVES OUT THEY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT.

WHEN THEY PUT THEMSELVES OUT THERE THEY ARE EXPOSING WHEN THEY PUT THEMSELVES OUT THERE THEY ARE EXPOSING THEMSELVES WHEN A TRAININGER THERE THEY ARE EXPOSING THEMSELVES WHEN A TRAININGER CALLS, LIKE -- THEMSELVES WHEN A TRAININGER CALLS, LIKE -- >> HAVE YOU STOPPED YOUR CALLS, LIKE -- >> HAVE YOU STOPPED YOUR DAUGHTER FROM COMMUNICATING -- >> HAVE YOU STOPPED YOUR DAUGHTER FROM COMMUNICATING -- >> IT'S IMPOSSIBLE.

DAUGHTER FROM COMMUNICATING -- >> IT'S IMPOSSIBLE.

LIKE TRYING NOT TO BREATHE.

>> IT'S IMPOSSIBLE.

LIKE TRYING NOT TO BREATHE.

IN TERMS OF COMMUNICATING LIKE TRYING NOT TO BREATHE.

IN TERMS OF COMMUNICATING ONLINE, I DON'T MICRO MANAGE HER IN TERMS OF COMMUNICATING ONLINE, I DON'T MICRO MANAGE HER ONLINE ACTIVITY.

ONLINE, I DON'T MICRO MANAGE HER ONLINE ACTIVITY.

I HAVE TO BUILD VALUE SYSTEM ONLINE ACTIVITY.

I HAVE TO BUILD VALUE SYSTEM WITHIN HER TO MAKE A THE RIGHT I HAVE TO BUILD VALUE SYSTEM WITHIN HER TO MAKE A THE RIGHT CHOICES.

WITHIN HER TO MAKE A THE RIGHT CHOICES.

>> ALL RIGHT, THAT'S IT FOR CHOICES.

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