FOUNDATION AND THE CHARLES A. FRUEAUFF FOUNDATION.

>> THIS WEEK ON TO THE CONTRARY... HILLARY CLINTON MAKES IT OFFICIAL.

THEN...

THE PAY GAP IN PLACES CALLING FOR AN END TO THE PAY GAP.

THEN COLLEGE STUDENTS SEXUAL PRACTICES HEAD SOUTH.

[♪♪♪] >> HELLO I'M BONNIE ERBE WELCOME TO THE CONTRARY, A DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL TRENDS FROM DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES.

UP FIRST, HILLARY READY TO RUN.

USING SOCIAL MEDIA, VIDEO AND E-MAIL, HILLARY CLINTON WILL LAUNCH HER 2016 CAMPAIGN FOR PRESIDENT.

AFTER THE DIGITAL KICKOFF, SHE WILL BEGIN CAMPAIGNING IN IOWA WHERE SHE FINISHED THIRD IN 2008.

THE ANNOUNCEMENT WAS LONG ANTICIPATED AND NO SURPRISE.

CLINTON HAS BEEN DROPPING HINTS ABOUT HER INTENTIONS FOR SOMETIME.

>> DON'T YOU SOME DAY WANT TO SEE A WOMAN PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA?

[APPLAUSE] WELL, IN MANY WAYS... ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS... ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS CAN ONLY BE ANSWERED BY YOU.

>> OK. WILL YOU OR WOMEN THE YOU OF WOMEN, ELECT, ELECT HILLARY PRESIDENT BECAUSE SHE IS INDEED WHOOOING THE WOMEN'S VOTE.

>> IN 201255% OF THE WOMEN VOTED FOR OBAMA AND ALL THE ANALYSTS AGREED THE WOMEN DELIVERED THE PREP SI FOR HIM.

>> AND SUBSTANCE MATTERS MORE THAN GENDER AND I WILL PUT MY MONEY ON THAT FOR 2016.

>> I THINK HILLARY IS POPULAR BUT WILL BE TRANSFORMATIVE NOT ONLY BE THE FIRST WOMAN PRESIDENT BUT SHE HAS A TRACK RECORD ON BEING GOOD ON THE WOMEN'S ISSUES AND HUGELY POPULAR AMONG MILLENNIALS AND THAT WILL PUT HER IN THE WHITE HOUSE.

>> IF SHE CAN GET PAST THE SCANDALS AND DOES NOT HAVE A SURPRISE SHE MAY DO IT.

>> YOU SAY SUBSTANCE MATTERS ABOVE GENDER.

BUT YOU DON'T THINK SHE HAS SUBSTANCE?

>> WHAT IS INTERESTING, I THINK I DISAGREE WITH HILLARY CLINTON ON 90% OF WHAT SHE STANDS FOR WHETHER IT'S THE WORKPLACE, ENERGY, HEALTHCARE.

BUT WHAT I THINK SHE IS MOST VULNERABLE IS BEING OVERHANDLED.

THIS WEEK ALONE, I HEARD PUNDITS TALK ABOUT OLD HILLARY, NEW HILLARY, AND WHAT I WANTED TO SAY GO AWAY AND THINK ABOUT THE THINGS THAT YOU STAND FOR AND COME BACK AS YOURSELF.

IF YOU DO THAT WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS BUT YOU HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF WINNING.

>> IT'S INTERESTING YOU ARE SAYING THAT BECAUSE THE LAUNCH SOMETHING ON-LINE THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA FOLLOWED UP WITH WHAT THEY ARE DESCRIBING ARE MORE MEETINGS.

AND FOR PEOPLE THAT KNOW HILLARY, I DID WORK FOR THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION SO I HAVE BEEN EXPOSED TO HER THAT IS HER SES SET.

ON ONE ONE SHE IS POWERFUL.

SHE IS SUBSTANTIVE.

WE DIFFER THIS IS A WOMAN OF SUBSTANCE WITH AN IMPECCABLE TRACK RECORD.

THINGS HAVE NOT ALWAYS BEEN PERFECT.

FOR ME THE LAUNCHING IS TELLING SHE WANTS TO BE IN CHARGE AND SHE WILL DO IT VERY, VERY DIFFERENTLY.

THIS IS HER IN HER MID-60s LAUNCHING HER CAMPAIGN ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND TO HER STRENGTH THEIR PERSONAL ABILITY AND KNOWLEDGE OF ISSUES.

>> WHAT DO WE THINK ABOUT LAUNCHING ON SOCIAL MEDIA?

IT'S NOW AND TODAY.

BUT AS UP WITH WHO COVERED MANY PRESIDENTIAL LAUNCHES WHEN I WAS A DAILY NEWS REPORTER, IT LACKS AN EVENT.

IT LACKS THE EXCITEMENT, I THINK.

>> YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS IS A SURPRISE AT ALL.

SHE OPENED HEADQUARTERS OR SIGNED A LEASE ON A HEADQUARTERS IN BROOKLINE HEIGHTS VERY AFFLUENT PART OF NEW YORK CITY.

HER PEOPLE THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING.

THEY ARE BUILDING IT UP AND DOING THE SOCIAL MEDIA IS BECAUSE EVERYONE DOES SOCIAL MEDIA AND IT'S WHAT SHE IS GOING TO DO ONCE SHE MADE THE ANNOUNCEMENT WHETHER IT'S SIGNIFICANT OR NOT.

>> WHAT ABOUT THE WHOOOING WOMEN?

SHE NEEDS TO WALK A TIGHT ROPE SHE CANNOT OFFEND MEN, OF COURSE BUT CLEARLY SHE IS APPEALING TO WOMEN AND SHE HAS BEEN A WOMAN'S WOMANS A POLITICIAN.

CAN THAT HURT HER?

>> I DON'T THINK SO.

I THINK IT IS A GREAT ASSET AND SHE IS POPULAR NOW AMONG YOUNG WOMEN.

AS COCHAIR OF THE NATIONAL READY FOR HILLARY MILLENNIAL COUNCIL FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS AROUND THE COUNTRY WE HAVE BEEN SEEING YOUNG PEOPLE EXCITED ABOUT HILLARY.

WE HAVE THROWN 1300 GRASSROOTS EVENTS JAM PACKED WITH YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE EXCITED ABOUT HER.

>> WILL IT BE LIKE THE OBAMA EFFECT ON YOUNG PEOPLE?

>> VERY MUCH.

SO I THINK YOUNG ORGANIZERS WHO GREW UP WITH OBAMA ARE EXCITED ALSO ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON.

>> HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK -- YOU MENTIONED THE 2014 ELECTIONS, HOW MUCH THE OFF PRESIDENTIAL YEAR WHEN VOTER TURNOUT WAS EXTREMELY LOW.

HOW MUCH CAN YOU GAUGE HER CHANCES OF PRESIDENTIAL SUCCESS BASED ON 2014 WHEN THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE DRAWS OUT A THE MORE PEOPLE.

HOW MANY MORE PEOPLE IS ALWAYS A QUESTION AND AN IMPORTANT QUESTION.

BUT STILL YOU KNOW YOU WILL HAVE BIGGER TURNOUT.

>> WE WILL ON BOTH SIDES, OF COURSE.

ONE THING TO PAY ATTENTION TO IS 2014 WAS A CONTENTIOUS RACE AND THERE WERE A LOT OF RACES FOCUSED ON THE WOMEN'S VOTE.

AND FOR THE CONVERSATION NATIONALLY, THEY TOOK IT IN THE WRONG DIRECTION.

THE DEMOCRATS RUNNING ON IT PEOPLE LIKE COLORADO THEY OVERPLAYED THEIR HAPPENED AND MORE WOMEN WERE SAYING WE HAVE REAL ECONOMIC ISSUES AND OBAMACARE AND THINGS ARE LOOK TERRIBLE IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND WE HAVE REAL CONCERNS WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.

>> LET ME JUMP IN.

YOU ARE RIGHT.

HOWEVER, THE MOTIVATED SIDE WERE THE REPUBLICANS, THE CHRISTIAN RIGHT OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE THEY WERE OUT OF POWER.

AND YOU KNOW, UDALL GOT CALLED SENATOR AND ALL THAT UGLY STUFF HAPPENED.

SO YOU ARE RIGHT, THAT IT TURNED OUT TO THE VOTERS WHO TURNED OUT THAT -- IN THAT ELECTION IT WAS A LOSING ISSUE.

WILL IT STAY A LOSING ISSUE WHEN YOU HAVE MORE YOUNG AND PROGRESSIVE PEOPLE GOING TO THE POLLS?

>> I THINK IT WILL BUT THIS IS WHERE I WOULD WARN REPUBLICANS.

THE WOMEN'S NARRATIVE IS GOING TO CHANGE.

IT'S GOING TO BE MUCH MORE FOCUSED ON THE WORK LEAVE, PAYCHECK FAIRNESS I THINK A LOT OF REPUBLICANS ARE NOT PREPARED THEY THINK IT IS GONE.

AND AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK THE G.O.P.

HAS SOMETHING GOING FOR THEM.

THEY HAVE A POOL OF PEOPLE RIGHT NOW.

ALL WITH DIFFERENT IDEAS AND TARGETING DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHICS AND CAUSING A DEBATE BETWEEN THEM WITHIN THE PARTY AND THAT IS A HEALTHY THING FOR BOTH REPUBLICANS AND THE COUNTRY AT LARGE.

>> AND I AM A HILLARY SUPPORTERS BUT NOT SURE SHE REALLY HAS A HURDLE TO OVERCOME.

SHE LOST TO OBAMA.

SHE DID NOT RUN THE BEST CAMPAIGN.

SHE DID NOT HAVE THE STRONGEST TEAM EVEN THOUGH SHE HAD THE MOST MONEY AT THAT TIME.

SHE HAS TO OVERCOME THE BARRIERS.

>> HOW DOES SHE DO THAT?

>> SHE HAS TO ORGANIZE WELL AND BE IN CHARGE OF HER TEAM.

SHE CANNOT OVEREXPOSE HERSELFP SHE CANNOT BEHAVE LIKE THAT -- FOR CERTAIN SHE IS GOING TO WIN THE PRESIDENCY.

SHE HAS TO FIGHT FOR IT EVERYDAY.

>> YOU TALKED ABOUT DRAWING MILLENNIALS AND WE ALL REMEMBER PRESIDENT OBAMA HAVING THAT ROCK STAR OR BEING GIVEN BY I WOULD SAY THE MALE-DOMINATED LEFT THAT HE HAD THIS ROCK STAR POWER.

IS ANY WOMAN GOING TO BE GIVEN THAT POWER BY THE PROGRESSIVE MEN IN THE COUNTRY WHO REALLY HELPED GET OBAMA ELECTED THE FIRST TIME?

>> I THINK SO.

AND I'M SEEING THAT ACROSS THE COUNTRY RIGHT NOW WITH THE MILLENNIAL COUNCIL AND OUR EVENTS FOR HILLARY.

OUR GENERATION GREW UP -- >> I'M TALKING ABOUT POLITICAL LEADERS LIKE MARCUS, THE DAILY CAUSE, AND YOUNG GUYS WHO ARE OUT THERE EARLY SUPPORTERS OF OBAMA.

>> YES, ABSOLUTELY.

I THINK SINCE THE LAST ELECTION, WE'VE SEEN SO MUCH FROM HILLARY.

SHE HAS DONE A WONDERFUL JOB AS SECRETARY OF STATE.

AND THE COUNTRY HAS GROWN READY FOR HILLARY.

AND -- >> WHAT ABOUT THE STATE DEPARTMENT E-MAIL SCANDAL HOW IS THAT GOING TO PLAY?

>> I THINK THAT MOST AMERICANS DON'T REALLY THINK THAT E-MAIL ISSUE IS A BIG ISSUE.

THEY ARE MORE FOCUSED HOW WE ARE GOING TO GROW THE MIDDLE CLASS AND OUR ITCH YOU USES THAT HILLARY HAS PROVE ESPECIALLY THAT SHE IS STRONG ON.

>> YOU BRING UP THE SCANDAL, THAT IS ONE MANY THAT SHE HAS HAD AS SECRETARY OF STATE.

SO SHE IS SORT OF THE TEFLON DAWN SHE CAN BOUNCE STUFF OFF.

BUT SOMEONE IS GOING TO SIT HER DOWN AND SAY WHY DID THIS HAPPEN?

AND SHE CANNOT ASSUME I'M GOING TO BE THE NOMINEE.

SHE HAS TO FIGHT FOR IT.

>> AND WHICH IS GOING TO DOG HER MOST, THE E-MAIL SITUATION, BENGHAZI, OR MY -- THE UP WITH I SEE AS HER STRONGEST PROBLEM WHICH IS TAKING THE CLINTON FOUNDATION TAKING MOPE FROM ALL THOSE -- MONEY FROM ALL THOSE ISLAMIC COUNTRIES WHERE WOMEN'S RIGHTS ARE NONEXISTENT.

>> THERE IS A SHARED PROBLEM AND THAT IS THE CONTROL OF INFORMATION AND THAT WILL BE AN ISSUE.

PROGRESSIVES TALK MUCH MORE ABOUT TRANSPARENCY AND SHE IS GOING TO HAVE TO OVERCOME AND THE QUESTION ABOUT HOW THE MEDIA WILL TREAT HER I THINK WE'VE SEEN THE MEDIA TREAT HER POORLY IN THE PAST.

>> MOST HIGH PROFILE WOMEN CARLY FUR RINA AND MEG WHITMAN AS WELL.

>> RIGHT BEFORE THE SHOW I WAS SHARING WITH A PRODUCER A NEW ARTICLE THAT CAME OUT BY A PROFESSOR AND THEY ANALYZED 600 CONGRESSIONAL RACES WHERE THEY FOUND THAT GENDER DID NOT HAVE A STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON PEOPLE'S PERCEPTIONS OF THE CANDIDATES.

IT IS A GOOD TIME FOR A WOMAN TO BE RUNNING.

SHE HAS THE EAR OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND THE MEDIA WILL GIVE HER A FAIR SHOT.

>> FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER @BONNIEERBE AND LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK.

FROM THE CLINTON PRESIDENTIAL BID TO THE PAY GAP.

WHILE WOMEN OUTNUMBER MEMBER AS STUDENTS IN THE NATION'S LIBERAL ARTS COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES, GENDER EINQUALITY IS A FACTOR.

FOR FREE MAIL PROFESSORS AND STAFF.

THE CHRONICLE OF HIGHER EDUCATION REPORTS WOMEN MADE UP 30% OF FULL-TIME PROFESSOR IN 2013, AND ANALYSIS OF THE DATA SHOWS WOMEN MAKE LESS THAN THE MALE COLLEAGUES AND MORE LIKELY TO BE PART-TIME ADJUNCT FACULTY THAN FULL-TIME AND THAT IS EVIDENT IN THE LIBERAL IVY LEAGUE SCHOOLS.

HARVARD WHICH HAS A WOMAN PRESIDENT AND WOMEN IN PUBLIC POLICY PROGRAM PAYS MALE PROFESSOR $15,000 MORE THAN FEMALES.

GENDER PAY GAPS WERE REVEALED IN THE GOVERNMENT OFFICES OF PRESIDENT OBAMA AND HILLARY CLINTON.

BOTH OF WHOM ARE KNOWN FOR THEIR SUPPORT OF WOMEN'S RIGHTS.

SO THESE SO-CALLED WHAT THE RIGHT WOULD CALL LIBERAL INSTITUTIONS ANYWAY, AND POLITICIANS, ARE THEMSELVES ENGAGED IN PAYING WOMEN LESS THAN THEY PAY MEN.

HOW MUCH -- P HILLARY CLINTON AS WELL.

HOW MUCH OF A PROBLEM IS GOING TO BE FOR HER AND HER PRESIDENTIAL RUN?

>> IT IS A PROBLEM FOR DEMOCRATS BECAUSE THEY HAVE MADE IT PART OF A CENTRAL POINT OF THE CAMPAIGN TO WOMEN.

THE THINGS THAT PLAGUE THE ECONOMY PLAGUE THE LIBERAL INSTITUTIONS THAT WOMEN ARE CHOOSING TO GO INTO WOMEN'S STUDIES AND NOT PAID AS MUCH AS THE PROFESSORS IN ECONOMICS OR BUSINESS.

AND THAT MORE WOMEN ARE CHOOSING TO WORK PART-TIME AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

IF I TO GUESS IN THE WHITE HOUSE YOU ARE SEEING THE BIGGER ISSUE IS MAYBE MEN SEEM TO BE STAYING AROUND LONGER AND MAKING THEIR WAY UP THE CHAIN LESS THAN WOMEN.

BUT ALL OF THIS SEEMS THE AS WE CAN EXPECT BUT BE CAREFUL IF THIS IS GOING TO BE THE CENTERPIECE OF THEIR CAMPAIGN.

>> SHOULD WOMEN BE DEMANDING OF THE POLITICIANS -- I'M NOT SURPRISED ABOUT THE OBAMA WHITE HOUSE BECAUSE HE TALKS THE TALK.

BUT HILLARY CLINTON WALKS THE WALK.

AND EVEN SO, HER STAFF -- >> I'M THINKING FIRE EVERYBODY FROM EVERYWHERE AND HIRE THEM AGAIN.

AND THERE IS A BIT OF APPLES AND ORANGES BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SAME POSITION THE PAY INEQUITIES ARE NOT THERE IN THE WHITE HOUSE.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY ANALYZE ON HILLARY'S TEAM.

AND THE REPUBLICANS ARE SAYING YOU GIVE US THE GLOBAL NUMBERS AND WE WILL DO THE ANALYSIS ON YOU.

THE TRUE ANALYSIS ON PAY EQUITY IS CAREER SPECIFIC BECAUSE SOME CAREERS HAVE A MORE BIGGER GAP THAN OTHERS.

>> IT'S USUALLY THE DIFFERENTS THAT GRADUATE SCHOOL RIGHT OUT OF COLLEGE, I SHOULD SAY OR GRADUATE SCHOOL PEOPLE MAKE MEN THAN WOMEN MAKE CLOSE SALARIES BUT 40s AND 50s THAT THE REAL GAPS START TO EMERGE.

>> EXACTLY.

AND IF YOU STAY IN THE WORKPLACE I AM AN EXAMPLE OF THAT, I NEVER LEFT THE WORKPLACE I'M DOING BETTER THAN MY FRIENDS THAT LEFT THE WORKPLACE TO RAISE THEIR CHILDREN BECAUSE OF LONGEVITY.

AND THERE ARE PROBLEMS THAT ARE REAL AND JUST BECAUSE IT'S NOT EVERY JOB, EVERYWHERE, WE SHOULD NOT BELITTLE THE ISSUE IT IS A CRITICAL ISSUE AND THE REPUBLICANS WOULD LIKE TO GET RID OF IT AND I THINK IT'S REAL.

>> IT'S ALL ABOUT ECONOMICS.

AND THE FACT IS THAT MORE WOMEN ARE ADJUNCTS.

PEOPLE CANNOT GET JOBS.

SO YOU HAVE PHD'S GETTING TWO OR THREEP ATTORNEYS SITTING THERE TRYING TO GET A JOB.

ECONOMICALLY IF THE OLDER FACULTY WHO TENURED DO NOT LEAVE THE SCHOOLS CANNOT AFFORD TO PAY A TENURED FACULTY MEMBER AND TENURE TRACK PERSON WHETHER A MAN OR WOMAN.

AND ALSO WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THEY HAVE A QUIRKY SYSTEM WITH GRADES AND STEPS IT DEPENDS HOW THE PERSON IS HIRED IN.

IF YOU ARE HIRED IN 15 VERSUS 13 YOU WILL MAKE MORE MONEY AND IT'S ABOUT THE EXPERIENCE OF THE INDIVIDUAL.

>> THE BEST RESPONSE A BIPARTISAN RESPONSE IS TO GROW THE ECONOMY AND JOB CREATION.

WHEN YOU HAVE MORE JOBS YOU HAVE MORE COMPETITION OF WINSTON-SALEMS AND EVERYBODY DOES BETTER AND I HOPE BOTH PARTIES CAN GET BEHIND.

>> AND PROGRESSIVES HAVE BEEN CLOSING THE JENTER PAY GAP.

PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS -- GENDER PAY GROUP.

PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS APPOINTED MANY WOMEN TO TOP POSITIONS IN THE ADMINISTRATION.

>> 35% OF THE CABINET AND BILL CLINTON 41% WOMEN.

SO STATISTICALLY SPEAKING HE IS NOT WHERE HE SHOULD BE?

>> BUT HIS NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER, THE CHIEF OF STAFF ALL WOMEN.

AND HILLARY CLINTON HAS BEEN A FORCE BEHIND THE PAYCHECK FAIRNESS ACT AND HAS BEEN WORKING SO HARD FOR MANY YEARS TO CLOSE THE GAP.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THESE STATISTICS.

AND I THINK ONE OF THE GREATEST IMPEDIMENTS TO CLOSING THE GENDER PAY GAP IS DENYING THAT THERE IS A GAP.

WHICH WE SEE A LOT OF FROM THE CONSERVATIVE SIDE.

>> AND I WANT TO JUMP IN AND SAY I THINK REPUBLICANS FOR YEARS WERE WRONG OR CONSERVATIVES WERE WRONG TO MAYBE SEEM AS THOUGH THEY WERE DISMISSING IT.

BUT THEY WERE DISMISSING THAT WOMEN ARE PAID 77 CENTS ON THE DOLLAR.

EVERY MEDIA OUTLET HAS ACCEPTED THAT AND THAT IS A GROSS OVERSTATEMENT AND IF WE LOOK AT THE REAL WAGE GAP IT'S 4-6 CENTS.

AND IF WE LOOK AT THAT -- >> YOU ARE RIGHT BUT I SEE REPUBLICANS WHO PERPETRATE THE MYTH IT'S BECAUSE WOMEN DON'T WORK AS MANY HOURS AS MEN.

I'M NOT SURE IF THAT IS TRUE BUT THE BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS ALWAYS SAYS THIS IS AN HOUR BY HOUR COMPARISON.

USING THE SHIELD OF WOMEN DO NOT WORK AS MANY HOURS IS NOT ACCURATEP IT COMES FROM REPUBLICANS.

>> THERE MIGHT BE SOCIAL ISSUES, BIOLOGICAL AND CHOICES ALL MAY GO INTO BUT WE HAVE TO BE HONEST HOW BIG THE GAP IS AND HOW MUCH YOU CAN CHANGE IT.

WOMEN AND MEN ARE GOING TO WANT DIFFERENT THINGS.

SOMEONE WORKED CONSISTENTLY IN THE WORKPLACE.

>> AND YOU HAVE TOO.

>> NO, I WORKED PART-TIME AND FULL-TIME AND DONE A VARIETY OF THINGS.

>> BUT DID YOU TAKE TIME OFF?

>> I DID.

>> HOW MUCH?

>> I WORKED PART-TIME FROM HOME FOR A WHILE.

>> BUT THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM TAKING 10 YEARS OFF.

AND WOMEN NEED TO KNOW THEY TRIP THEMSELVES UP REALLY BADLY WHEN THEY DO THAT.

>> AND THE LARGER POINT IS WE NEED TO CHANGE WORKPLACE STRUCTURES TO BETTER ACCOMMODATE WOMEN AND FAMILIES.

AND DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN LEADING THAT CHARGE.

>> JUST WANTED TO SAY WE -- NOT THAT I'M BLAMING WOMEN BUT WE TALK ABOUT EMPOWERMENT.

LIKE A MAN GOES TO AN INTERVIEW AND SAYS I WILL ONLY ACCEPT THIS AND THAT AS WOMEN I DON'T KNOW IF WE ARE THAT AGGRESSIVE AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD ADDRESS.

>> TRAINING ON THAT IS IN ORDER.

RISKY CASUAL SEX PRACTICES AMONG COLLEGE STUDENTS.

NEW RESEARCH ON COLLEGE STUDENTS AND SEXUAL BEHAVIOR SHOWS A DISTURBING TREND.

ACCORDING TO A NEW YORK VERSE CITY RESEARCHER DURING THEIR FRESHMAN YEAR STUDENTS FROM LOW INCOME LESS EDUCATED FAMILIES WERE MORE LIKELY TO USE CONDOMS THAN THOSE FROM MORE HIGHLY EDUCATED BACKGROUNDS.

BUT ON CAMPUS THE BEHAVIOR BECOMES RISKIER.

LOW INCOME STUDENTS ADOPT THE ATTITUDES OF THE HIGH INCOME PEERS LESS WORRIED ABOUT CONTRACTING AN STD OR BECOMING PREGNANT.

A REPORT RELEASED SHOWS TEEN PREGNANCY IS AT AN ALL-TIME LOW FINDING THAT 90% OF TEENS USE BIRTH CONTROL.

SO 90% OF TEENS ARE USING IT.

AND THEN IT DROPS AND DROPS AS THEY GET INTO COLLEGE AND BECOME PARTICULARLY SOPHOMORES FROM FRESHMEN.

WHY IS IT AND WHY PARTICULARLY ARE KIDS FROM HIGHER BETTER EDUCATED MORE AFFLUENT BACKGROUNDS HAVING THINKING THAT HAVING UNPROTECTED SEX IS SOMEHOW OK?

>> WELL, IT COMES FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU ARE RAISED IN OR THAT YOU GROW UP IN.

SO IF YOU ARE RAISED TO THINK THAT WELL, AS LONG AS YOU HAVE THE RIGHT PERSON IT IS OK THEN THERE IS A PROBLEM.

I THINK THAT IF YOU LOOK AT WHY THEY DON'T -- THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT HOOKUPS.

TALKING ABOUT THE CASUAL ONE TIME, TWO TIME THING.

AND THAT THOUGHT IT REALLY FRIGHTENS ME THAT THEY ARE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT STD'S.

I GUESS THEY FEEL IF SHE IS ON THE PILL OR SOME BIRTH CONTROL THEN SHE WILL NOT GET PREGNANT AND NOT THINKING ABOUT THE BIGGER RAMIFICATION.

>> DOES THAT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT AIDS WHEN IT FIRST STARTED HAPPENING IN THE 80s OR FIRST BECAME PUBLIC IT WAS AN EPIDEMIC IN THE 80s WAS A DEATH SENTENCE AND NOW IT'S NOT.

SO I MEAN, STILL NOT ANYTHING ANYBODY WANTS TO CONTRACT, BELIEVE ME, BUT IT DOESN'T KILL YOU.

THERE IS MEDICATION FOR IT.

IS THAT WHY A LOT OF THE YOUNG PEOPLE ARE SAYING WELL, THE WORST THING HAPPENS I GET AIDS AND GO ON A COCKTAIL.

>> YOU SEE THERE'S TWO ISSUES CONTRACEPTION AND PREGNANCY AND THE MESSAGE ON PREGNANCY IS FOR EDUCATED GIRLS IS STRONG AND CONSISTENT AND THE BIRTH RATES TEENAGE PREGNANCY RATES IN THE UNITED STATES HAVE GONE DOWN.

SO THAT IS THE POSITIVE SIDE OF THE STORY.

WHAT SOME PEOPLE BELIEVE IS BECAUSE THEY ARE TAKING CARE OF THE PREGNANCY THEY ARE NOT AS WORRIED ABOUT THE STD'S AND THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT STRATEGIES BECAUSE THE CONDOM IS ABOUT THE STD'S.

>> AND YOU ARE IN THE BUSINESS AND MADE A CAREER IN EDUCATING YOUNG PEOPLE.

HOW DO YOU REVERSE THAT?

>> I MEAN -- >> I AM ASSUMING IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS THERE IS FOR THE MOST PART SEX EDUCATION AND IT'S NOT ABSTINENCE ONLY.

WHERE IN PRIVATE SCHOOLS I DON'T KNOW IF THEY OFFER OR REQUIRE SEX EDUCATION AS MUCH AS PUBLIC SCHOOLS DO.

SO I'M THINKING AS A POSSIBILITY THAT THESE THE MORE AFFLUENT KIDS ARE GETTING OUT OF PUBLIC SCHOOLS WHERE THEY DON'T -- PRIVATE SCHOOLS RATHER WHERE THEY HAVE NOT BEEN TOLD USE CONDOMS AS KIDS ARE TOLD LESS AFFLUENT KIDS ARE BEING TOLD IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

>> MY KIDS GO TO PRIVATE SCHOOL AND I THOUGHT WHEN I HEARD THE STORY THE OPPOSITE.

THAT I AM SO CONFIDENT THAT THEY ARE TEACHING THEM ABOUT SEX EDUCATION BUT I HAD GONE TO THE PARENT-TEACHER CONFERENCE AND [INAUDIBLE] SO IN THE SENSE THAT I'M SURROUNDED IN A COMMUNITY AT RISK, I DON'T MY KIDS DON'T FEEL THAT THEY ARE AT RISK BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIVE IN A COMMUNITY AT RISK.

AND I THINK YOU NEED THAT REAL THREAT TO ACT IN THE CASE OF THIS.

>> ONE NIGHT STANDS AS WE OLDTIMERS USED TO CALL IT.

>> I THINK IT'S INTERESTING LISTENING TO YOU ABOUT THIS BECAUSE IT GOES BACK TO IF ANYONE READ RETURN TO MODESTY, THE MORE WE OFFER SEX ED THE MORE IT ENCOURAGES A PROMISCUOUS CULTURE.

WE CANNOT IGNORE IT AND THERE'S STUFF FOR CHILDREN TO KNOW AND UNDERSTAND AND PERHAPS WE HAVE GONE TOO FAR AND THAT KIDS HAVE BEGUN TO TUNE IT OUT AS THE CULTURE IS OFFENSE SEXUALIZED AS YOUNG WOMEN PERHAPS SOME IS NOW BECOME THE SENSE COMBINATION OF YOUNG PEOPLE'S SINCE OF BEING INVISIBLE WITH AN OVER SAT OURRATION OF SEXUAL AND THESE ARE SERIOUS DISEASES AND PROBLEMS.

>> STUDIES SHOW THAT YOUNG PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW HOW TO PROTECT THEMSELVES.

THEY WANT TO HAVE ALL OF THE INFORMATION.

AND TEENAGE PREGNANCY IS AT AN ALL-TIME LOW.

>> DOESN'T THAT SHOW THAT THEY ARE GETTING THAT INFORMATION FOR THE MOST PART?

>> IT DOES SHOW THAT.

AND IT SHOWS THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE SEXUAL EDUCATION AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUNG PEOPLE UNDERSTAND AND HAVE ACCESS TO THE FULL RANGE OF REPRODUCTIVE OPTIONS.

THAT IS PART OF EQUALITY.

>> WHY THE SPLIT -- FIRST OF ALL, WHY ARE MORE EDUCATED MORE AFFLUENT KIDS LESS AWARE OF THE DANGERS TO THEM AND ACTING LIKE THERE IS NOT AS MUCH AND WHY DO LOWER INCOME KIDS GO TO COLLEGE AND MEET THESE SUPPOSEDLY SMARTER PEOPLE, AND DECIDE TO ADOPT THEIR STUPID WAY OF LIFE?

>> WELL, THERE'S PROBABLY A RANGE OF SOCIAL FACTORS GOING INTO THAT.

PERHAPS PEER PRESSURE PLAYS A ROLE.

I THINK THAT THERE'S A NUMBER OF COMPLEX FACTORS GOING INTO THAT.

BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS TEENAGE PREGNANCY IS AT AN ALL-TIME LOW AND WE NEED TO KEEP UP WITH THE SEX ED.

>> THANK YOU.

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