>> THIS WEEK ON "TO THE >> THIS WEEK ON "TO THE CONTRARY" >> THIS WEEK ON "TO THE CONTRARY" FIRST, IS THERE A DOUBLE CONTRARY" FIRST, IS THERE A DOUBLE STANDARD FOR MALE AND FEMALE FIRST, IS THERE A DOUBLE STANDARD FOR MALE AND FEMALE C.E.O.s.

STANDARD FOR MALE AND FEMALE C.E.O.s.

THEN, THE GROWING ACHIEVEMENT C.E.O.s.

THEN, THE GROWING ACHIEVEMENT GAP.

THEN, THE GROWING ACHIEVEMENT GAP.

BEHIND THE HEADLINES: THE MARCH GAP.

BEHIND THE HEADLINES: THE MARCH ON WASHINGTON: 50 YEARS LATER.

HELLO, I'M BONNIE ERBE.

HELLO, I'M BONNIE ERBE.

WELCOME TO "TO THE CONTRARY," A HELLO, I'M BONNIE ERBE.

WELCOME TO "TO THE CONTRARY," A DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL WELCOME TO "TO THE CONTRARY," A DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL TRENDS FROM DIVERSE DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL TRENDS FROM DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES.

TRENDS FROM DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES.

UP FIRST, A CEO'S FEISTY PHOTO PERSPECTIVES.

UP FIRST, A CEO'S FEISTY PHOTO CREATES CONTROVERSY.

UP FIRST, A CEO'S FEISTY PHOTO CREATES CONTROVERSY.

DID YAHOO!

C.E.O.

MARISSA STRIKE CREATES CONTROVERSY.

DID YAHOO!

C.E.O.

MARISSA STRIKE THE WRONG POSE FOR "VOGUE" DID YAHOO!

C.E.O.

MARISSA STRIKE THE WRONG POSE FOR "VOGUE" MAGAZINE.

THE WRONG POSE FOR "VOGUE" MAGAZINE.

LYING BACKWARDS ON A LOUNGE MAGAZINE.

LYING BACKWARDS ON A LOUNGE CHAIR SPORTING STILETTOS AND A LYING BACKWARDS ON A LOUNGE CHAIR SPORTING STILETTOS AND A POUTY FACE, MAYER WAS CHAIR SPORTING STILETTOS AND A POUTY FACE, MAYER WAS PHOTOGRAPHED FOR A PROFILE PIECE POUTY FACE, MAYER WAS PHOTOGRAPHED FOR A PROFILE PIECE IN THE FASHION MAGAZINE.

PHOTOGRAPHED FOR A PROFILE PIECE IN THE FASHION MAGAZINE.

CRITICS ARGUE HER PICTURE IN THE FASHION MAGAZINE.

CRITICS ARGUE HER PICTURE PERPETUATES THE STEREOTYPE THAT CRITICS ARGUE HER PICTURE PERPETUATES THE STEREOTYPE THAT HIGH PROFILE WOMEN RISE TO THE PERPETUATES THE STEREOTYPE THAT HIGH PROFILE WOMEN RISE TO THE TOP BASED ON LOOKS.

HIGH PROFILE WOMEN RISE TO THE TOP BASED ON LOOKS.

OTHERS SAY THERE'S NOTHING WRONG TOP BASED ON LOOKS.

OTHERS SAY THERE'S NOTHING WRONG THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH A OTHERS SAY THERE'S NOTHING WRONG THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH A FEMALE C.E.O.

EMBRACING HER THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH A FEMALE C.E.O.

EMBRACING HER FEMININITY.

FEMALE C.E.O.

EMBRACING HER FEMININITY.

BUT MAYER RECEIVED SOME GOOD FEMININITY.

BUT MAYER RECEIVED SOME GOOD NEWS LATE IN THE WEEK; YAHOO BUT MAYER RECEIVED SOME GOOD NEWS LATE IN THE WEEK; YAHOO SURPASSED GOOGLE IN JULY AS THE NEWS LATE IN THE WEEK; YAHOO SURPASSED GOOGLE IN JULY AS THE MOST VISITED WEBSITE IN THE SURPASSED GOOGLE IN JULY AS THE MOST VISITED WEBSITE IN THE UNITED STATES.

MOST VISITED WEBSITE IN THE UNITED STATES.

EVEN BETTER NEWS, UNITED STATES.

EVEN BETTER NEWS, YAHOO STOCK HAS DOUBLED IN THE EVEN BETTER NEWS, YAHOO STOCK HAS DOUBLED IN THE YEAR SINCE MAYER BECAME CEO.

YAHOO STOCK HAS DOUBLED IN THE YEAR SINCE MAYER BECAME CEO.

SO DEBRA, WAS HER DECISION TO YEAR SINCE MAYER BECAME CEO.

SO DEBRA, WAS HER DECISION TO STRIKE THE POSE IN "VOGUE" OR SO DEBRA, WAS HER DECISION TO STRIKE THE POSE IN "VOGUE" OR RATINGS BOOSTER FOR THE WEBSITE?

STRIKE THE POSE IN "VOGUE" OR RATINGS BOOSTER FOR THE WEBSITE?

>> I REALLY THINK SHE WAS FINE RATINGS BOOSTER FOR THE WEBSITE?

>> I REALLY THINK SHE WAS FINE IN WHAT SHE DID.

>> I REALLY THINK SHE WAS FINE IN WHAT SHE DID.

I DON'T THINK IT REALLY MATARIES IN WHAT SHE DID.

I DON'T THINK IT REALLY MATARIES WHOLE LOT AND IF IT GAVE HER I DON'T THINK IT REALLY MATARIES WHOLE LOT AND IF IT GAVE HER SOME MORE NOTORIETY AND WHOLE LOT AND IF IT GAVE HER SOME MORE NOTORIETY AND PUBLICITY IT'S GREAT.

SOME MORE NOTORIETY AND PUBLICITY IT'S GREAT.

"VOGUE" IS ALWAYS ABOUT FASHION PUBLICITY IT'S GREAT.

"VOGUE" IS ALWAYS ABOUT FASHION AND FASHION IS ABOUT BEING "VOGUE" IS ALWAYS ABOUT FASHION AND FASHION IS ABOUT BEING SENSUAL.

AND FASHION IS ABOUT BEING SENSUAL.

>> KUDOS TO HER I'M GLAD SHE DID SENSUAL.

>> KUDOS TO HER I'M GLAD SHE DID WHAT SHE DID, SHE PROVED YOU CAN >> KUDOS TO HER I'M GLAD SHE DID WHAT SHE DID, SHE PROVED YOU CAN BE BEAUTIFUL AND HAVE BRAINS AND WHAT SHE DID, SHE PROVED YOU CAN BE BEAUTIFUL AND HAVE BRAINS AND BE SUCCESSFUL.

BE BEAUTIFUL AND HAVE BRAINS AND BE SUCCESSFUL.

>> WELL, MAISSA KNOWS EXACTLY BE SUCCESSFUL.

>> WELL, MAISSA KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT SHE'S DOING.

>> WELL, MAISSA KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT SHE'S DOING.

SHE LEAVES GOOGLE IN THE DUST, WHAT SHE'S DOING.

SHE LEAVES GOOGLE IN THE DUST, THAT "VOGUE" POSE WILL SHE LEAVES GOOGLE IN THE DUST, THAT "VOGUE" POSE WILL PARTICULARLY PLEASE HER YOUNG, THAT "VOGUE" POSE WILL PARTICULARLY PLEASE HER YOUNG, HIP YAHOO!

BASE.

PARTICULARLY PLEASE HER YOUNG, HIP YAHOO!

BASE.

>> OF COURSE SHE SHOULD HAVE HIP YAHOO!

BASE.

>> OF COURSE SHE SHOULD HAVE POSED FOR "VOGUE" SHE'S A >> OF COURSE SHE SHOULD HAVE POSED FOR "VOGUE" SHE'S A BEAUTIFUL, GLAMOROUS, POSED FOR "VOGUE" SHE'S A BEAUTIFUL, GLAMOROUS, SUCCESSFUL, BRILLIANT WOMAN.

BEAUTIFUL, GLAMOROUS, SUCCESSFUL, BRILLIANT WOMAN.

THE WORLD SHOULD GET USED TO SUCCESSFUL, BRILLIANT WOMAN.

THE WORLD SHOULD GET USED TO THAT.

THE WORLD SHOULD GET USED TO THAT.

THERE ARE A LOT OF THEM.

THAT.

THERE ARE A LOT OF THEM.

SECOND THING IS, THE MISTAKE THERE ARE A LOT OF THEM.

SECOND THING IS, THE MISTAKE HERE IS THE BUSY BODIES JUDGING SECOND THING IS, THE MISTAKE HERE IS THE BUSY BODIES JUDGING HER.

HERE IS THE BUSY BODIES JUDGING HER.

>> REALLY?

HER.

>> REALLY?

GLIM NOT SO MUCH OF A BUSY BODY >> REALLY?

GLIM NOT SO MUCH OF A BUSY BODY BUT I REALLY DO THINK THAT SHE GLIM NOT SO MUCH OF A BUSY BODY BUT I REALLY DO THINK THAT SHE IS INAPPROPRIATE FOR WHO SHE IS.

BUT I REALLY DO THINK THAT SHE IS INAPPROPRIATE FOR WHO SHE IS.

CAN YOU IMAGINE, WE KNOW SCOTT IS INAPPROPRIATE FOR WHO SHE IS.

CAN YOU IMAGINE, WE KNOW SCOTT BROWN POSED JUST ABOUT FULL CAN YOU IMAGINE, WE KNOW SCOTT BROWN POSED JUST ABOUT FULL FRONTAL NUDE AND STILL BECAME A BROWN POSED JUST ABOUT FULL FRONTAL NUDE AND STILL BECAME A U.S.

SENATOR.

FRONTAL NUDE AND STILL BECAME A U.S.

SENATOR.

BUT I CAN'T THINK OF A MAJOR U.S.

SENATOR.

BUT I CAN'T THINK OF A MAJOR SERIOUSLY TAKEN, LET'S TAKE BUT I CAN'T THINK OF A MAJOR SERIOUSLY TAKEN, LET'S TAKE RICHARD BRANSON OUT OF THE SERIOUSLY TAKEN, LET'S TAKE RICHARD BRANSON OUT OF THE PICTURE BECAUSE HE'S NOT REALLY RICHARD BRANSON OUT OF THE PICTURE BECAUSE HE'S NOT REALLY FEIGN THAT SERIOUSLY.

PICTURE BECAUSE HE'S NOT REALLY FEIGN THAT SERIOUSLY.

SERIOUSLY TAKEN MALE C.E.O.

FEIGN THAT SERIOUSLY.

SERIOUSLY TAKEN MALE C.E.O.

POSING IN A SUIT UPSIDE DOWN FOR SERIOUSLY TAKEN MALE C.E.O.

POSING IN A SUIT UPSIDE DOWN FOR A MAGAZINE, I CAN'T SEE IT.

POSING IN A SUIT UPSIDE DOWN FOR A MAGAZINE, I CAN'T SEE IT.

>> IT'S DIFFERENT FOR US, A MAGAZINE, I CAN'T SEE IT.

>> IT'S DIFFERENT FOR US, SOMETIMES WE CAN SET THE >> IT'S DIFFERENT FOR US, SOMETIMES WE CAN SET THE STANDARD FOR BREAK THE MOLD I SOMETIMES WE CAN SET THE STANDARD FOR BREAK THE MOLD I THINK IT'S GREAT BECAUSE SHE IS STANDARD FOR BREAK THE MOLD I THINK IT'S GREAT BECAUSE SHE IS BEAUTIFUL AND LOVELY.

THINK IT'S GREAT BECAUSE SHE IS BEAUTIFUL AND LOVELY.

HER STOCK IS BEATING GOOGLE.

BEAUTIFUL AND LOVELY.

HER STOCK IS BEATING GOOGLE.

>> I THINK WOMEN ARE REDEFINING HER STOCK IS BEATING GOOGLE.

>> I THINK WOMEN ARE REDEFINING SUCCESS.

>> I THINK WOMEN ARE REDEFINING SUCCESS.

IT CAN INCLUDE WOMEN BEING SEXY SUCCESS.

IT CAN INCLUDE WOMEN BEING SEXY AND GLAMOROUS.

IT CAN INCLUDE WOMEN BEING SEXY AND GLAMOROUS.

>> THIS IS ALSO "VOGUE" THIS IS AND GLAMOROUS.

>> THIS IS ALSO "VOGUE" THIS IS ABOUT FASHION.

>> THIS IS ALSO "VOGUE" THIS IS ABOUT FASHION.

FASHION IS ABOUT SENSUALITY AND ABOUT FASHION.

FASHION IS ABOUT SENSUALITY AND YOU SELL LOOKING GOOD, LOOKING FASHION IS ABOUT SENSUALITY AND YOU SELL LOOKING GOOD, LOOKING SEXY, WHETHER YOU'RE A MAN OR YOU SELL LOOKING GOOD, LOOKING SEXY, WHETHER YOU'RE A MAN OR WOMAN.

SEXY, WHETHER YOU'RE A MAN OR WOMAN.

THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

WOMAN.

THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

I.

THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

I.

>> I GET YOUR POINT ABOUT THE I.

>> I GET YOUR POINT ABOUT THE UPSIDE DOWN THING AND MAN GOING >> I GET YOUR POINT ABOUT THE UPSIDE DOWN THING AND MAN GOING UPSIDE DOWN.

UPSIDE DOWN THING AND MAN GOING UPSIDE DOWN.

>> EXCEPT FOR RICHARD BRANSON.

UPSIDE DOWN.

>> EXCEPT FOR RICHARD BRANSON.

>> YOU KNOW, WHY NOT.

>> EXCEPT FOR RICHARD BRANSON.

>> YOU KNOW, WHY NOT.

MAYBE THEY SHOULD TRY THAT NEXT >> YOU KNOW, WHY NOT.

MAYBE THEY SHOULD TRY THAT NEXT MONTH.

MAYBE THEY SHOULD TRY THAT NEXT MONTH.

>> ACTUALLY SHE'S PRETTY MONTH.

>> ACTUALLY SHE'S PRETTY UPTIGHT.

>> ACTUALLY SHE'S PRETTY UPTIGHT.

SHE IS UP HERE, VIRTUALLY YOU UPTIGHT.

SHE IS UP HERE, VIRTUALLY YOU CAN'T SEE ANYTHING AND SHE IS -- SHE IS UP HERE, VIRTUALLY YOU CAN'T SEE ANYTHING AND SHE IS -- >> WHAT I SEE QUITE FRANKLY IN CAN'T SEE ANYTHING AND SHE IS -- >> WHAT I SEE QUITE FRANKLY IN THAT PICTURE, BY THE WAY, NOT >> WHAT I SEE QUITE FRANKLY IN THAT PICTURE, BY THE WAY, NOT THAT I -- PAID A WHOLE LOT OF THAT PICTURE, BY THE WAY, NOT THAT I -- PAID A WHOLE LOT OF ATTENTION ALTHOUGH IT GOT A LOT THAT I -- PAID A WHOLE LOT OF ATTENTION ALTHOUGH IT GOT A LOT OF PLAY IN THE NEWS WE DECIDED ATTENTION ALTHOUGH IT GOT A LOT OF PLAY IN THE NEWS WE DECIDED TO GO WITH IT.

OF PLAY IN THE NEWS WE DECIDED TO GO WITH IT.

WHAT I SEE IS A PR, BATTLE TO GO WITH IT.

WHAT I SEE IS A PR, BATTLE BETWEEN HER PR PEOPLE AND THE WHAT I SEE IS A PR, BATTLE BETWEEN HER PR PEOPLE AND THE PHOTOGRAPHERS AT "VOGUE" THEY BETWEEN HER PR PEOPLE AND THE PHOTOGRAPHERS AT "VOGUE" THEY WANT HER TO -- THEY WANT HER TO PHOTOGRAPHERS AT "VOGUE" THEY WANT HER TO -- THEY WANT HER TO EXPOSE MORE OF HER DECOLLETE AND WANT HER TO -- THEY WANT HER TO EXPOSE MORE OF HER DECOLLETE AND WANT HER TO BE SEXY AND DO EXPOSE MORE OF HER DECOLLETE AND WANT HER TO BE SEXY AND DO SOMETHING THAT WILL MAKE NEWS WANT HER TO BE SEXY AND DO SOMETHING THAT WILL MAKE NEWS AND BRING ATTENTION TO THE SOMETHING THAT WILL MAKE NEWS AND BRING ATTENTION TO THE MAGAZINE.

AND BRING ATTENTION TO THE MAGAZINE.

HER PR PEOPLE WANT HER TO BE MAGAZINE.

HER PR PEOPLE WANT HER TO BE SOMEWHAT DIGNIFIED SO THEY CAME HER PR PEOPLE WANT HER TO BE SOMEWHAT DIGNIFIED SO THEY CAME UP -- SOMEWHAT DIGNIFIED SO THEY CAME UP -- >> IN MY MIND FAIRLY BIZARRE UP -- >> IN MY MIND FAIRLY BIZARRE POSE DOES A LITTLE OF BOTH.

>> IN MY MIND FAIRLY BIZARRE POSE DOES A LITTLE OF BOTH.

>> BIZARRE IS NOT THE RIGHT POSE DOES A LITTLE OF BOTH.

>> BIZARRE IS NOT THE RIGHT WORD.

>> BIZARRE IS NOT THE RIGHT WORD.

IT HAS TO DO WITH, FIRST OF ALL, WORD.

IT HAS TO DO WITH, FIRST OF ALL, THIS WOMAN IS COMFORTABLE IN HER IT HAS TO DO WITH, FIRST OF ALL, THIS WOMAN IS COMFORTABLE IN HER OWN SKIN.

THIS WOMAN IS COMFORTABLE IN HER OWN SKIN.

SHE NEEDS TO DRAW ATTENTION TO OWN SKIN.

SHE NEEDS TO DRAW ATTENTION TO YAHOO!

AND THE CHANGES THAT SHE SHE NEEDS TO DRAW ATTENTION TO YAHOO!

AND THE CHANGES THAT SHE IS BRINGING TO YAHOO!, WHAT YOU YAHOO!

AND THE CHANGES THAT SHE IS BRINGING TO YAHOO!, WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER NEEDS PAYING IS BRINGING TO YAHOO!, WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER NEEDS PAYING ATTENTION TO.

SAID EARLIER NEEDS PAYING ATTENTION TO.

WHO IS SHE AND WHAT IS SHE ATTENTION TO.

WHO IS SHE AND WHAT IS SHE DOING.

WHO IS SHE AND WHAT IS SHE DOING.

SHE IS YAHOO!, WHO IS YAHOO!

DOING.

SHE IS YAHOO!, WHO IS YAHOO!

YAHOO!

IS YOUNGER THAN ANYBODY SHE IS YAHOO!, WHO IS YAHOO!

YAHOO!

IS YOUNGER THAN ANYBODY AT THIS TABLE.

YAHOO!

IS YOUNGER THAN ANYBODY AT THIS TABLE.

WOULD THEY BE TURNED OFF BY THIS AT THIS TABLE.

WOULD THEY BE TURNED OFF BY THIS PICTURE?

WOULD THEY BE TURNED OFF BY THIS PICTURE?

I DOUBT IT.

PICTURE?

I DOUBT IT.

FOR CERTAIN C.E.O.s INCLUDING I DOUBT IT.

FOR CERTAIN C.E.O.s INCLUDING WOMEN C.E.O.s THIS WOULD NOT FOR CERTAIN C.E.O.s INCLUDING WOMEN C.E.O.s THIS WOULD NOT BE A SLOGAN.

WOMEN C.E.O.s THIS WOULD NOT BE A SLOGAN.

PARTICULARLY THE THEY DIDN'T BE A SLOGAN.

PARTICULARLY THE THEY DIDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE.

PARTICULARLY THE THEY DIDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE.

FOR HER IT SEEMS TO ME IT WAS FEEL COMFORTABLE.

FOR HER IT SEEMS TO ME IT WAS JUST RIGHT AND IF SHE WAS DOING FOR HER IT SEEMS TO ME IT WAS JUST RIGHT AND IF SHE WAS DOING WHAT YOU SAID WHICH IS TRYING TO JUST RIGHT AND IF SHE WAS DOING WHAT YOU SAID WHICH IS TRYING TO CUT THE BABY IN HALF SHE SUCCESS WHAT YOU SAID WHICH IS TRYING TO CUT THE BABY IN HALF SHE SUCCESS SEALEDDED.

CUT THE BABY IN HALF SHE SUCCESS SEALEDDED.

>> EVEN "TIME" MAGAZINE THEY SEALEDDED.

>> EVEN "TIME" MAGAZINE THEY SAID SHE LOOKED LIKE A MERMAID >> EVEN "TIME" MAGAZINE THEY SAID SHE LOOKED LIKE A MERMAID ON THIS PIECE OF GUM.

SAID SHE LOOKED LIKE A MERMAID ON THIS PIECE OF GUM.

SHE BROUGHT ATTENTION TO HERSELF ON THIS PIECE OF GUM.

SHE BROUGHT ATTENTION TO HERSELF BUT YOU HAVE SOME BIZARRE SHE BROUGHT ATTENTION TO HERSELF BUT YOU HAVE SOME BIZARRE REPORTINGS ON THE ACTUAL BUT YOU HAVE SOME BIZARRE REPORTINGS ON THE ACTUAL PICTURE.

REPORTINGS ON THE ACTUAL PICTURE.

KUDOS TO HER.

PICTURE.

KUDOS TO HER.

SHE'S SUCCESSFUL AND BEAUTIFUL.

KUDOS TO HER.

SHE'S SUCCESSFUL AND BEAUTIFUL.

>> LET ME THEN PUSH IT A SHE'S SUCCESSFUL AND BEAUTIFUL.

>> LET ME THEN PUSH IT A LITTLE -- PUSH THE ENVELOPE A >> LET ME THEN PUSH IT A LITTLE -- PUSH THE ENVELOPE A LITTLE BIT MORE SAY, SHE BROUGHT LITTLE -- PUSH THE ENVELOPE A LITTLE BIT MORE SAY, SHE BROUGHT ATTENTION, STOCK IS UP, WHY NOT LITTLE BIT MORE SAY, SHE BROUGHT ATTENTION, STOCK IS UP, WHY NOT JUST DO WHAT MADONNA DID DO ATTENTION, STOCK IS UP, WHY NOT JUST DO WHAT MADONNA DID DO WHOLE BOOK OF NAKED PHOTOGRAPHS?

JUST DO WHAT MADONNA DID DO WHOLE BOOK OF NAKED PHOTOGRAPHS?

YOU REALLY WANT TO PUSH THE WHOLE BOOK OF NAKED PHOTOGRAPHS?

YOU REALLY WANT TO PUSH THE ENVELOPE -- BUT NOT THAT FAR.

YOU REALLY WANT TO PUSH THE ENVELOPE -- BUT NOT THAT FAR.

>> WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE?

ENVELOPE -- BUT NOT THAT FAR.

>> WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE?

>> THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE.

>> WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE?

>> THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE.

MADONNA AND MARIDSA WOULD YOU >> THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE.

MADONNA AND MARIDSA WOULD YOU LIKE -- MADONNA AND MARIDSA WOULD YOU LIKE -- >> FIRST OF ALL SHE'S LIKE -- >> FIRST OF ALL SHE'S TECHNO-GEEK THIS DOES A LOT TO >> FIRST OF ALL SHE'S TECHNO-GEEK THIS DOES A LOT TO IMPROVE THE IMAGE, ESPECIALLY TECHNO-GEEK THIS DOES A LOT TO IMPROVE THE IMAGE, ESPECIALLY FOR YOUNG WOMEN.

IMPROVE THE IMAGE, ESPECIALLY FOR YOUNG WOMEN.

I THINK SHE'S A GREAT ROLE FOR YOUNG WOMEN.

I THINK SHE'S A GREAT ROLE MODEL.

I THINK SHE'S A GREAT ROLE MODEL.

AND AS YOU SAY SHE'S -- YOUNGER MODEL.

AND AS YOU SAY SHE'S -- YOUNGER GENERATION.

AND AS YOU SAY SHE'S -- YOUNGER GENERATION.

AND THEY ARE CHANGING -- GENERATION.

AND THEY ARE CHANGING -- >> WE COULD PICK THE WHOLE AND THEY ARE CHANGING -- >> WE COULD PICK THE WHOLE PICTURE APART OVER -- >> WE COULD PICK THE WHOLE PICTURE APART OVER -- >> THE GUM ANALOGY I FOUND THAT PICTURE APART OVER -- >> THE GUM ANALOGY I FOUND THAT FASCINATING.

>> THE GUM ANALOGY I FOUND THAT FASCINATING.

ALSO IF YOU SHOWED THAT PICK FASCINATING.

ALSO IF YOU SHOWED THAT PICK TOWER FBI AGENT, I CAN TELL YOU ALSO IF YOU SHOWED THAT PICK TOWER FBI AGENT, I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT'S BONDAGE.

TOWER FBI AGENT, I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT'S BONDAGE.

BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT DASH.

THAT IT'S BONDAGE.

BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT DASH.

>> STILETTO AND THE SHOES AND BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT DASH.

>> STILETTO AND THE SHOES AND THE STRAPS.

>> STILETTO AND THE SHOES AND THE STRAPS.

THAT'S A WHOLE BONDAGE.

THE STRAPS.

THAT'S A WHOLE BONDAGE.

>> I LOVE HER SHOES.

THAT'S A WHOLE BONDAGE.

>> I LOVE HER SHOES.

>> SENDS MULTIPLE MESSAGES.

>> I LOVE HER SHOES.

>> SENDS MULTIPLE MESSAGES.

TAKE IT THE WAY YOU LIKE IT.

>> SENDS MULTIPLE MESSAGES.

TAKE IT THE WAY YOU LIKE IT.

>> TAKE AWAY FROM HERE IS THAT TAKE IT THE WAY YOU LIKE IT.

>> TAKE AWAY FROM HERE IS THAT THIS IS FINE, YOUNG WOMEN, SHE'S >> TAKE AWAY FROM HERE IS THAT THIS IS FINE, YOUNG WOMEN, SHE'S A FINE ROLE MODEL, GO FOR IT.

THIS IS FINE, YOUNG WOMEN, SHE'S A FINE ROLE MODEL, GO FOR IT.

>> YES.

A FINE ROLE MODEL, GO FOR IT.

>> YES.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> YES.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

YOU SHOULD KNOW WHO YOUR BASES >> ABSOLUTELY.

YOU SHOULD KNOW WHO YOUR BASES WHO YOUR PUBLICS SHE KNOWS WHO YOU SHOULD KNOW WHO YOUR BASES WHO YOUR PUBLICS SHE KNOWS WHO HERS IS.

WHO YOUR PUBLICS SHE KNOWS WHO HERS IS.

LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK.

HERS IS.

LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK.

PLEASE FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK.

PLEASE FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER @BONNIEERBE.

PLEASE FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER @BONNIEERBE.

FROM WOMEN CEOS TO BOYS GETTING @BONNIEERBE.

FROM WOMEN CEOS TO BOYS GETTING C'S FROM WOMEN CEOS TO BOYS GETTING C'S GIRLS ARE SURGING AHEAD OF BOYS C'S GIRLS ARE SURGING AHEAD OF BOYS IN HIGH SCHOOL ACHIEVEMENT GIRLS ARE SURGING AHEAD OF BOYS IN HIGH SCHOOL ACHIEVEMENT ACCORDING TO THE NATIONAL BUREAU IN HIGH SCHOOL ACHIEVEMENT ACCORDING TO THE NATIONAL BUREAU OF ECONOMIC RESEARCH.

ACCORDING TO THE NATIONAL BUREAU OF ECONOMIC RESEARCH.

THREE DECADES OF DATA SHOW HIGH OF ECONOMIC RESEARCH.

THREE DECADES OF DATA SHOW HIGH SCHOOL GIRLS ARE GETTING MORE THREE DECADES OF DATA SHOW HIGH SCHOOL GIRLS ARE GETTING MORE A'S AND BOYS MORE C'S.

SCHOOL GIRLS ARE GETTING MORE A'S AND BOYS MORE C'S.

THE MOST IMPORTANT REASON FOR A'S AND BOYS MORE C'S.

THE MOST IMPORTANT REASON FOR THE GROWING GAP IS GIRLS' HIGHER THE MOST IMPORTANT REASON FOR THE GROWING GAP IS GIRLS' HIGHER CAREER EXPECTATIONS.

THE GROWING GAP IS GIRLS' HIGHER CAREER EXPECTATIONS.

BUT OTHER SCHOLARS HAVE A CAREER EXPECTATIONS.

BUT OTHER SCHOLARS HAVE A DIFFERENT EXPLANATION.

BUT OTHER SCHOLARS HAVE A DIFFERENT EXPLANATION.

THEY BELIEVE BOYS ARE FALLING DIFFERENT EXPLANATION.

THEY BELIEVE BOYS ARE FALLING BEHIND ACADEMICALLY BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE BOYS ARE FALLING BEHIND ACADEMICALLY BECAUSE SCHOOL IS A HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT BEHIND ACADEMICALLY BECAUSE SCHOOL IS A HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT THEY POINT TO POLICIES SUCH AS SCHOOL IS A HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT THEY POINT TO POLICIES SUCH AS ZERO TOLERANCE FOR VIOLENCE THAT THEY POINT TO POLICIES SUCH AS ZERO TOLERANCE FOR VIOLENCE THAT HAVE LED TO CHILDREN, MAINLY ZERO TOLERANCE FOR VIOLENCE THAT HAVE LED TO CHILDREN, MAINLY BOYS, SUSPENDED FOR PRETENDING HAVE LED TO CHILDREN, MAINLY BOYS, SUSPENDED FOR PRETENDING TO USE WEAPONS.

BOYS, SUSPENDED FOR PRETENDING TO USE WEAPONS.

ONE EXAMPLE, A 7-YEAR OLD BOY TO USE WEAPONS.

ONE EXAMPLE, A 7-YEAR OLD BOY WHO WAS SUSPENDED FOR NIBBLING ONE EXAMPLE, A 7-YEAR OLD BOY WHO WAS SUSPENDED FOR NIBBLING THE EDGES OF HIS POP-TART INTO WHO WAS SUSPENDED FOR NIBBLING THE EDGES OF HIS POP-TART INTO THE SHAPE OF A GUN.

THE EDGES OF HIS POP-TART INTO THE SHAPE OF A GUN.

SCHOOLS ARE ALSO RESTRICTING THE SHAPE OF A GUN.

SCHOOLS ARE ALSO RESTRICTING GAMES DEEMED VIOLENT OR SCHOOLS ARE ALSO RESTRICTING GAMES DEEMED VIOLENT OR EXCLUSIONARY, SUCH AS DODGEBALL, GAMES DEEMED VIOLENT OR EXCLUSIONARY, SUCH AS DODGEBALL, TAG, AND TUG OF WAR - WHICH HAS EXCLUSIONARY, SUCH AS DODGEBALL, TAG, AND TUG OF WAR - WHICH HAS BEEN RENAMED "TUG OF PEACE."

TAG, AND TUG OF WAR - WHICH HAS BEEN RENAMED "TUG OF PEACE."

SOME CONCERNED PARENTS AND BEEN RENAMED "TUG OF PEACE."

SOME CONCERNED PARENTS AND EDUCATORS FEAR THIS APPROACH IS SOME CONCERNED PARENTS AND EDUCATORS FEAR THIS APPROACH IS BACKFIRING AND HURTING BOYS.

EDUCATORS FEAR THIS APPROACH IS BACKFIRING AND HURTING BOYS.

BOYS ARE NEARLY FIVE TIMES MORE BACKFIRING AND HURTING BOYS.

BOYS ARE NEARLY FIVE TIMES MORE LIKELY TO BE EXPELLED FROM BOYS ARE NEARLY FIVE TIMES MORE LIKELY TO BE EXPELLED FROM PRESCHOOL, AND ARE 70% OF LIKELY TO BE EXPELLED FROM PRESCHOOL, AND ARE 70% OF STUDENTS SUSPENDED IN K-12.

PRESCHOOL, AND ARE 70% OF STUDENTS SUSPENDED IN K-12.

CHRISTINA YOU RELEASED AN STUDENTS SUSPENDED IN K-12.

CHRISTINA YOU RELEASED AN UPDATED VERSION OF "THE WAR ON CHRISTINA YOU RELEASED AN UPDATED VERSION OF "THE WAR ON BOYS" WHICH WE'RE TOLD HOW MANY UPDATED VERSION OF "THE WAR ON BOYS" WHICH WE'RE TOLD HOW MANY YEARS AGO, TEN YEARS AGO.

BOYS" WHICH WE'RE TOLD HOW MANY YEARS AGO, TEN YEARS AGO.

WHAT ABOUT THESE ZERO TOLERANCE YEARS AGO, TEN YEARS AGO.

WHAT ABOUT THESE ZERO TOLERANCE POLICIES.

WHAT ABOUT THESE ZERO TOLERANCE POLICIES.

>> THEY HAVE HAD DISPARITY POLICIES.

>> THEY HAVE HAD DISPARITY IMPACT ON BOYS.

>> THEY HAVE HAD DISPARITY IMPACT ON BOYS.

TO CORRECT POLICIES THAT ARE IMPACT ON BOYS.

TO CORRECT POLICIES THAT ARE HARMFUL TO GIRLS BUT BOYS DON'T TO CORRECT POLICIES THAT ARE HARMFUL TO GIRLS BUT BOYS DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF PROTECTION.

HARMFUL TO GIRLS BUT BOYS DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF PROTECTION.

AND SO NO ONE IS REALLY LOOKING HAVE THAT KIND OF PROTECTION.

AND SO NO ONE IS REALLY LOOKING AT MATERIAL THEIR INTERESTS.

AND SO NO ONE IS REALLY LOOKING AT MATERIAL THEIR INTERESTS.

OUR SCHOOLS ARE BECOMING AT MATERIAL THEIR INTERESTS.

OUR SCHOOLS ARE BECOMING INCREASINGLY HOSTILE.

OUR SCHOOLS ARE BECOMING INCREASINGLY HOSTILE.

OF A MAN AMERICAN BOYS PAY THE INCREASINGLY HOSTILE.

OF A MAN AMERICAN BOYS PAY THE HIGHEST PRICE BUT NOW IT'S MOVED OF A MAN AMERICAN BOYS PAY THE HIGHEST PRICE BUT NOW IT'S MOVED TO BOYS OF -- FROM ALL HIGHEST PRICE BUT NOW IT'S MOVED TO BOYS OF -- FROM ALL BACKGROUNDS ARE SIMPLY FIND TO BOYS OF -- FROM ALL BACKGROUNDS ARE SIMPLY FIND THEMSELVES IN SCHOOL, ALMOST AS BACKGROUNDS ARE SIMPLY FIND THEMSELVES IN SCHOOL, ALMOST AS IF THEY SHOULD PUT UP A NO THEMSELVES IN SCHOOL, ALMOST AS IF THEY SHOULD PUT UP A NO WELCOME SIGN.

IF THEY SHOULD PUT UP A NO WELCOME SIGN.

>> HOW COME THEY'RE SHOWING UP WELCOME SIGN.

>> HOW COME THEY'RE SHOWING UP AT SCHOOLS, THE ADAM KID IN >> HOW COME THEY'RE SHOWING UP AT SCHOOLS, THE ADAM KID IN CONNECTICUT WITH AK-47s AND AT SCHOOLS, THE ADAM KID IN CONNECTICUT WITH AK-47s AND TRYING TO BLOW THE PLACES APART?

CONNECTICUT WITH AK-47s AND TRYING TO BLOW THE PLACES APART?

>> A SMALL GROUP OF BOYS ARE TRYING TO BLOW THE PLACES APART?

>> A SMALL GROUP OF BOYS ARE SOCIOPATHIC.

>> A SMALL GROUP OF BOYS ARE SOCIOPATHIC.

MOST ARE NOT SOCIOPATHS.

SOCIOPATHIC.

MOST ARE NOT SOCIOPATHS.

WE HAVE TO MAKE A CLEAR MOST ARE NOT SOCIOPATHS.

WE HAVE TO MAKE A CLEAR DISTINCTION.

WE HAVE TO MAKE A CLEAR DISTINCTION.

A HEALTHY MASCULINITY, BY BEING DISTINCTION.

A HEALTHY MASCULINITY, BY BEING HIGH SPIRITED AND YES, HE CAN A HEALTHY MASCULINITY, BY BEING HIGH SPIRITED AND YES, HE CAN PLAY ALL SORTS OF TYPICAL HEROIC HIGH SPIRITED AND YES, HE CAN PLAY ALL SORTS OF TYPICAL HEROIC WAYS, RESCUING PEOPLE FROM BAD PLAY ALL SORTS OF TYPICAL HEROIC WAYS, RESCUING PEOPLE FROM BAD GUYS AND VANQUISHING VILLAINS.

WAYS, RESCUING PEOPLE FROM BAD GUYS AND VANQUISHING VILLAINS.

THAT'S THE HEALTHY PLAY OF GUYS AND VANQUISHING VILLAINS.

THAT'S THE HEALTHY PLAY OF LITTLE BOYS.

THAT'S THE HEALTHY PLAY OF LITTLE BOYS.

IT'S A TERRIBLE MISTAKE TO LITTLE BOYS.

IT'S A TERRIBLE MISTAKE TO CONFUSE THAT.

IT'S A TERRIBLE MISTAKE TO CONFUSE THAT.

>> I AGREE WITH ZERO TOLERANCE CONFUSE THAT.

>> I AGREE WITH ZERO TOLERANCE ONE OF THE WORST OF ALL >> I AGREE WITH ZERO TOLERANCE ONE OF THE WORST OF ALL EXPERIMENTS IN THE PAST 20 ONE OF THE WORST OF ALL EXPERIMENTS IN THE PAST 20 YEARS.

EXPERIMENTS IN THE PAST 20 YEARS.

BUT I MUST TELL YOU I AM NOT YEARS.

BUT I MUST TELL YOU I AM NOT CONVINCED BY THIS ANECDOTAL BUT I MUST TELL YOU I AM NOT CONVINCED BY THIS ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE, I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK A CONVINCED BY THIS ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE, I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK A LOT DEEPER THAN WHAT ONE OR TWO EVIDENCE, I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK A LOT DEEPER THAN WHAT ONE OR TWO REALLY CRAZY THINGS THAT NOBODY LOT DEEPER THAN WHAT ONE OR TWO REALLY CRAZY THINGS THAT NOBODY WOULD CONDONE TO SOMETHING REALLY CRAZY THINGS THAT NOBODY WOULD CONDONE TO SOMETHING MUCH -- FIRST OF ALL THIS GOES WOULD CONDONE TO SOMETHING MUCH -- FIRST OF ALL THIS GOES BACK MUCH FURTHER.

MUCH -- FIRST OF ALL THIS GOES BACK MUCH FURTHER.

I REALLY -- BACK MUCH FURTHER.

I REALLY -- >> WHAT PART GOES BACK?

I REALLY -- >> WHAT PART GOES BACK?

ZERO TOLERANCE?

>> WHAT PART GOES BACK?

ZERO TOLERANCE?

>> BOYS FALLING OFF.

ZERO TOLERANCE?

>> BOYS FALLING OFF.

BOYS DOING WORSE.

>> BOYS FALLING OFF.

BOYS DOING WORSE.

NOW DOING MUCH WORSE.

BOYS DOING WORSE.

NOW DOING MUCH WORSE.

I THINK REALLY GOT TO -- YOU NOW DOING MUCH WORSE.

I THINK REALLY GOT TO -- YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE RISE OF I THINK REALLY GOT TO -- YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE RISE OF SPORTS ON TELEVISION AND IN HAVE TO LOOK AT THE RISE OF SPORTS ON TELEVISION AND IN SCHOOLS.

SPORTS ON TELEVISION AND IN SCHOOLS.

AS KIND OF -- FOR MORE AND MORE SCHOOLS.

AS KIND OF -- FOR MORE AND MORE BOYS YOU REALLY ARE NOT A BOY AS KIND OF -- FOR MORE AND MORE BOYS YOU REALLY ARE NOT A BOY UNLESS YOU SPEND THE TIME BOYS YOU REALLY ARE NOT A BOY UNLESS YOU SPEND THE TIME PLAYING THESE VIDEO GAMES UNLESS YOU SPEND THE TIME PLAYING THESE VIDEO GAMES UNLESS, BY THE WAY, NOT PLAYING PLAYING THESE VIDEO GAMES UNLESS, BY THE WAY, NOT PLAYING SPORTS.

UNLESS, BY THE WAY, NOT PLAYING SPORTS.

THAT WOULD BE VERY HEALTHY.

SPORTS.

THAT WOULD BE VERY HEALTHY.

LOOKING AT SPORTS, FATHERS THAT WOULD BE VERY HEALTHY.

LOOKING AT SPORTS, FATHERS SPENDING ALL WEEKEND LOOKING AT LOOKING AT SPORTS, FATHERS SPENDING ALL WEEKEND LOOKING AT SPORTS.

SPENDING ALL WEEKEND LOOKING AT SPORTS.

WHAT KIND OF SPORTS DO THEY LOOK SPORTS.

WHAT KIND OF SPORTS DO THEY LOOK AT?

WHAT KIND OF SPORTS DO THEY LOOK AT?

SOME OF THEM WORSE ARE THE AT?

SOME OF THEM WORSE ARE THE VIOLENT SPORTS.

SOME OF THEM WORSE ARE THE VIOLENT SPORTS.

AND THE TIME THEY SPEND ON IT IS VIOLENT SPORTS.

AND THE TIME THEY SPEND ON IT IS WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT.

AND THE TIME THEY SPEND ON IT IS WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT.

I WANT TO SEE A STUDY DONE OF WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT.

I WANT TO SEE A STUDY DONE OF HOW MUCH TIME THE BOYS SPEND AS I WANT TO SEE A STUDY DONE OF HOW MUCH TIME THE BOYS SPEND AS VOYEURS OF SPORTS, TAKING IN ALL HOW MUCH TIME THE BOYS SPEND AS VOYEURS OF SPORTS, TAKING IN ALL THAT HAVE VIOLENCE AND HOW MUCH VOYEURS OF SPORTS, TAKING IN ALL THAT HAVE VIOLENCE AND HOW MUCH TIME THE GIRLS SPEND.

THAT HAVE VIOLENCE AND HOW MUCH TIME THE GIRLS SPEND.

THE GIRLS THEY UNDERSTAND TIME THE GIRLS SPEND.

THE GIRLS THEY UNDERSTAND SOMEHOW BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE GIRLS THEY UNDERSTAND SOMEHOW BECAUSE THEY HAVE PARTICIPATING IN SPORTS.

SOMEHOW BECAUSE THEY HAVE PARTICIPATING IN SPORTS.

WHAT IT DOES FOR THEM AND PARTICIPATING IN SPORTS.

WHAT IT DOES FOR THEM AND LEADERSHIP QUALITIES AND IN WHAT IT DOES FOR THEM AND LEADERSHIP QUALITIES AND IN MOVING AHEAD IN LIFE.

LEADERSHIP QUALITIES AND IN MOVING AHEAD IN LIFE.

FOR THE BOYS WHO ARE, YES, MOVING AHEAD IN LIFE.

FOR THE BOYS WHO ARE, YES, VICTIMS OF OBESITY MORE THAN FOR THE BOYS WHO ARE, YES, VICTIMS OF OBESITY MORE THAN GIRLS, SPORTS HAS BECOME VICTIMS OF OBESITY MORE THAN GIRLS, SPORTS HAS BECOME IDENTIFIED WITH MASCULINITY AND GIRLS, SPORTS HAS BECOME IDENTIFIED WITH MASCULINITY AND THEIR TIME IS TAKEN UP WITH THAT IDENTIFIED WITH MASCULINITY AND THEIR TIME IS TAKEN UP WITH THAT -- THEIR TIME IS TAKEN UP WITH THAT -- >> NOT ONLY MASCULINITY BUT -- >> NOT ONLY MASCULINITY BUT SUCCESS.

>> NOT ONLY MASCULINITY BUT SUCCESS.

A LOT OF YOUNG BOYS THEY SEE SUCCESS.

A LOT OF YOUNG BOYS THEY SEE THESE GUYS, WRESTLERS, BASEBALL A LOT OF YOUNG BOYS THEY SEE THESE GUYS, WRESTLERS, BASEBALL PLAYERS, FOOTBALL PLAYERS THEY THESE GUYS, WRESTLERS, BASEBALL PLAYERS, FOOTBALL PLAYERS THEY DON'T WANT TO STUDY.

PLAYERS, FOOTBALL PLAYERS THEY DON'T WANT TO STUDY.

THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO BE JUST DON'T WANT TO STUDY.

THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO BE JUST LIKE THAT MAKE MILLIONS LIKE THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO BE JUST LIKE THAT MAKE MILLIONS LIKE THAT GET THE GIRLS AND BE LIKE THAT MAKE MILLIONS LIKE THAT GET THE GIRLS AND BE POPULAR.

THAT GET THE GIRLS AND BE POPULAR.

BUT TO GO TO ZERO TOLERANCE I POPULAR.

BUT TO GO TO ZERO TOLERANCE I THINK THAT WE'VE TAKEN THAT TOO BUT TO GO TO ZERO TOLERANCE I THINK THAT WE'VE TAKEN THAT TOO FAR.

THINK THAT WE'VE TAKEN THAT TOO FAR.

YES, WE SHOULD BE VIGILANT.

FAR.

YES, WE SHOULD BE VIGILANT.

WHAT HAPPENED WITH COLUMBINE, YES, WE SHOULD BE VIGILANT.

WHAT HAPPENED WITH COLUMBINE, SANDY HOOK AND OTHER PLACES BUT WHAT HAPPENED WITH COLUMBINE, SANDY HOOK AND OTHER PLACES BUT ALSO WE CAN TAKE THINGS TOO FAR.

SANDY HOOK AND OTHER PLACES BUT ALSO WE CAN TAKE THINGS TOO FAR.

WITH A KID BITING THE POP-TART ALSO WE CAN TAKE THINGS TOO FAR.

WITH A KID BITING THE POP-TART SHAPED AS A GUN AND SUSPEND HIM WITH A KID BITING THE POP-TART SHAPED AS A GUN AND SUSPEND HIM INSTEAD OF TUG OF WAR, TUG OF SHAPED AS A GUN AND SUSPEND HIM INSTEAD OF TUG OF WAR, TUG OF PEACE, WHAT IS THAT?

INSTEAD OF TUG OF WAR, TUG OF PEACE, WHAT IS THAT?

>> I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO PEACE, WHAT IS THAT?

>> I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT OUR EDUCATION SYSTEM AND >> I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT OUR EDUCATION SYSTEM AND LOOK DEEPLY IN TO IT AND SAY LOOK AT OUR EDUCATION SYSTEM AND LOOK DEEPLY IN TO IT AND SAY ZERO TOLERANCE GOOD, THE ANSWER LOOK DEEPLY IN TO IT AND SAY ZERO TOLERANCE GOOD, THE ANSWER IS PROBABLY NO.

ZERO TOLERANCE GOOD, THE ANSWER IS PROBABLY NO.

IT'S LIKE TAKING THE DISCRETION IS PROBABLY NO.

IT'S LIKE TAKING THE DISCRETION AWAY FROM THE JUDGE DOING A IT'S LIKE TAKING THE DISCRETION AWAY FROM THE JUDGE DOING A SENTENCING YOU WANT TO LOOK AT AWAY FROM THE JUDGE DOING A SENTENCING YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THE INDIVIDUAL.

SENTENCING YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THE INDIVIDUAL.

YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THE THE INDIVIDUAL.

YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THE INDIVIDUAL CIRCUMSTANCES.

YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THE INDIVIDUAL CIRCUMSTANCES.

I GET VERY CONCERNED WHEN HE INDIVIDUAL CIRCUMSTANCES.

I GET VERY CONCERNED WHEN HE HEAR, WE'RE SPENDING TIME ON I GET VERY CONCERNED WHEN HE HEAR, WE'RE SPENDING TIME ON THIS AND BEING CONCERNED ABOUT HEAR, WE'RE SPENDING TIME ON THIS AND BEING CONCERNED ABOUT THESE TYPES OF THINGS, TUG OF THIS AND BEING CONCERNED ABOUT THESE TYPES OF THINGS, TUG OF PEACE.

THESE TYPES OF THINGS, TUG OF PEACE.

WE SHOULD BE SPENDING OUR TIME PEACE.

WE SHOULD BE SPENDING OUR TIME ON MORE CONSTRUCTIVE, WE SHOULD BE SPENDING OUR TIME ON MORE CONSTRUCTIVE, INTROSPECTIVE LOOKING AT OUR ON MORE CONSTRUCTIVE, INTROSPECTIVE LOOKING AT OUR EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM AND HOW THESE INTROSPECTIVE LOOKING AT OUR EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM AND HOW THESE POLICIES ARE AFFECTING US.

EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM AND HOW THESE POLICIES ARE AFFECTING US.

>> BUT ALSO WHAT I WANT TO GET POLICIES ARE AFFECTING US.

>> BUT ALSO WHAT I WANT TO GET TO IN WHAT LITTLE TIME WE HAVE >> BUT ALSO WHAT I WANT TO GET TO IN WHAT LITTLE TIME WE HAVE LEFT BLAMING THIS ON FEMINISM.

TO IN WHAT LITTLE TIME WE HAVE LEFT BLAMING THIS ON FEMINISM.

IS IT THE FAULT OF FEMINISM?

LEFT BLAMING THIS ON FEMINISM.

IS IT THE FAULT OF FEMINISM?

>> THE FIRST EDITION OF MY BOOK IS IT THE FAULT OF FEMINISM?

>> THE FIRST EDITION OF MY BOOK I WAS TANGLING WITH THE AMERICAN >> THE FIRST EDITION OF MY BOOK I WAS TANGLING WITH THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF UNIVERSITY WOMEN I WAS TANGLING WITH THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF UNIVERSITY WOMEN BECAUSE THEY HAD PROMOTED THE ASSOCIATION OF UNIVERSITY WOMEN BECAUSE THEY HAD PROMOTED THE IDEA THAT GIRLS WERE IN CRISIS.

BECAUSE THEY HAD PROMOTED THE IDEA THAT GIRLS WERE IN CRISIS.

WHEN IN FACT BOYS WERE FALLING IDEA THAT GIRLS WERE IN CRISIS.

WHEN IN FACT BOYS WERE FALLING FURTHER AND FURTHER BEHIND THAT WHEN IN FACT BOYS WERE FALLING FURTHER AND FURTHER BEHIND THAT WAS SORT OF IGNORED.

FURTHER AND FURTHER BEHIND THAT WAS SORT OF IGNORED.

IN THIS EDITION I FOCUS ON ALL WAS SORT OF IGNORED.

IN THIS EDITION I FOCUS ON ALL SORTS OF CAUSES.

IN THIS EDITION I FOCUS ON ALL SORTS OF CAUSES.

THE DECLINE OF RECESS AND ZERO SORTS OF CAUSES.

THE DECLINE OF RECESS AND ZERO TOLERANCE AND INCREASINGLY THE DECLINE OF RECESS AND ZERO TOLERANCE AND INCREASINGLY CLASSROOMS HAVE BECOME MORE TOLERANCE AND INCREASINGLY CLASSROOMS HAVE BECOME MORE FEELING CENTERED, SEDENTARY, CLASSROOMS HAVE BECOME MORE FEELING CENTERED, SEDENTARY, COMPETITION AVERSE.

FEELING CENTERED, SEDENTARY, COMPETITION AVERSE.

UNWITTINGLY HAVE MOVED AWAY FROM COMPETITION AVERSE.

UNWITTINGLY HAVE MOVED AWAY FROM THE NEEDS OF LITTLE BOYS.

UNWITTINGLY HAVE MOVED AWAY FROM THE NEEDS OF LITTLE BOYS.

>> I AGREE.

THE NEEDS OF LITTLE BOYS.

>> I AGREE.

TALKING TO THE CONGRESSWOMAN >> I AGREE.

TALKING TO THE CONGRESSWOMAN ABOUT SPORTS BEING DISTRACTING.

TALKING TO THE CONGRESSWOMAN ABOUT SPORTS BEING DISTRACTING.

SCHOOLS DO COMPETE WITH THE ABOUT SPORTS BEING DISTRACTING.

SCHOOLS DO COMPETE WITH THE POPULAR CULTURE THEY HAVE TO DO SCHOOLS DO COMPETE WITH THE POPULAR CULTURE THEY HAVE TO DO A BETTER JOB ENGAGING THE YOUNG POPULAR CULTURE THEY HAVE TO DO A BETTER JOB ENGAGING THE YOUNG MALE MINDS.

A BETTER JOB ENGAGING THE YOUNG MALE MINDS.

>> PRESIDENT OBAMA HAD IT RIGHT, MALE MINDS.

>> PRESIDENT OBAMA HAD IT RIGHT, PUT MORE EMPHASIS ON SCIENCE AND >> PRESIDENT OBAMA HAD IT RIGHT, PUT MORE EMPHASIS ON SCIENCE AND MATH I THINK THAT WE NEED TO PUT MORE EMPHASIS ON SCIENCE AND MATH I THINK THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT OUR CURRICULUM.

MATH I THINK THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT OUR CURRICULUM.

THERE ARE MANY THINGS HERE THAT LOOK AT OUR CURRICULUM.

THERE ARE MANY THINGS HERE THAT -- THERE ARE MANY THINGS HERE THAT -- >> WE MAY NEED MORE MALE -- >> WE MAY NEED MORE MALE TEACHERS.

>> WE MAY NEED MORE MALE TEACHERS.

>> WE MAY NEED MORE EXPERIMENTS TEACHERS.

>> WE MAY NEED MORE EXPERIMENTS WITH SINGLE SEX EDUCATION.

>> WE MAY NEED MORE EXPERIMENTS WITH SINGLE SEX EDUCATION.

THERE'S FANTASTIC PUBLIC SCHOOL, WITH SINGLE SEX EDUCATION.

THERE'S FANTASTIC PUBLIC SCHOOL, ALL MALE AND ALL FEMALE -- THERE'S FANTASTIC PUBLIC SCHOOL, ALL MALE AND ALL FEMALE -- >> EAGLE ACADEMY IN NEW YORK A ALL MALE AND ALL FEMALE -- >> EAGLE ACADEMY IN NEW YORK A CHARTER SCHOOL.

>> EAGLE ACADEMY IN NEW YORK A CHARTER SCHOOL.

>> THE MALE LEADERSHIP ACADEMY CHARTER SCHOOL.

>> THE MALE LEADERSHIP ACADEMY IN DALLAS WHICH IS FANTASTIC.

>> THE MALE LEADERSHIP ACADEMY IN DALLAS WHICH IS FANTASTIC.

THERE ARE LOT OF THINGS WE COULD IN DALLAS WHICH IS FANTASTIC.

THERE ARE LOT OF THINGS WE COULD BE DOING.

THERE ARE LOT OF THINGS WE COULD BE DOING.

THE BRITISH, AUSTRALIANS THEY'RE BE DOING.

THE BRITISH, AUSTRALIANS THEY'RE TEN YEARS AHEAD OF US.

THE BRITISH, AUSTRALIANS THEY'RE TEN YEARS AHEAD OF US.

>> WHAT DO THEY DO DIFFERENTLY?

TEN YEARS AHEAD OF US.

>> WHAT DO THEY DO DIFFERENTLY?

>> THEY CONSIDER IT A CRISIS.

>> WHAT DO THEY DO DIFFERENTLY?

>> THEY CONSIDER IT A CRISIS.

THEY ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE BOYS >> THEY CONSIDER IT A CRISIS.

THEY ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE BOYS BUT WORRIED ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THEY ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE BOYS BUT WORRIED ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THEIR WORKFORCE, THEIR ECONOMY.

BUT WORRIED ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THEIR WORKFORCE, THEIR ECONOMY.

AND SOME EXPERT ON EDUCATION THEIR WORKFORCE, THEIR ECONOMY.

AND SOME EXPERT ON EDUCATION SAID IN THE GLOBAL ECONOMY THE AND SOME EXPERT ON EDUCATION SAID IN THE GLOBAL ECONOMY THE COUNTRY THAT CAN SOLVE THE SAID IN THE GLOBAL ECONOMY THE COUNTRY THAT CAN SOLVE THE PROBLEM TO THE BOY GAP IS GOING COUNTRY THAT CAN SOLVE THE PROBLEM TO THE BOY GAP IS GOING TO BE AHEAD IN ECONOMICALLY.

PROBLEM TO THE BOY GAP IS GOING TO BE AHEAD IN ECONOMICALLY.

THEY ARE SORT OF STRENGTHENING TO BE AHEAD IN ECONOMICALLY.

THEY ARE SORT OF STRENGTHENING THEIR EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM WITH THEY ARE SORT OF STRENGTHENING THEIR EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM WITH STUDENTS DOING VOCATIONAL AND THEIR EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM WITH STUDENTS DOING VOCATIONAL AND CAREER DEVELOPMENT.

STUDENTS DOING VOCATIONAL AND CAREER DEVELOPMENT.

THEY ARE SENDING OUT READING CAREER DEVELOPMENT.

THEY ARE SENDING OUT READING LISTS TO TEACHERS OF BOOKS THAT THEY ARE SENDING OUT READING LISTS TO TEACHERS OF BOOKS THAT LITTLE BOYS FIND IRRESISTIBLE.

LISTS TO TEACHERS OF BOOKS THAT LITTLE BOYS FIND IRRESISTIBLE.

THIS IS BEING DONE AT THE LITTLE BOYS FIND IRRESISTIBLE.

THIS IS BEING DONE AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT IN THIS IS BEING DONE AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT IN AUSTRALIA AND ENGLAND.

HIGHEST LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT IN AUSTRALIA AND ENGLAND.

IMAGE ANYONABLE THAT OUR AUSTRALIA AND ENGLAND.

IMAGE ANYONABLE THAT OUR DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION WOULD IMAGE ANYONABLE THAT OUR DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION WOULD HAVE SOMETHING SPECIAL FOR BOYS.

DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION WOULD HAVE SOMETHING SPECIAL FOR BOYS.

BEHIND THE HEADLINES: WOMEN AND HAVE SOMETHING SPECIAL FOR BOYS.

BEHIND THE HEADLINES: WOMEN AND THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT.

BEHIND THE HEADLINES: WOMEN AND THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT.

THIS WEEK MARKS THE 50TH THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT.

THIS WEEK MARKS THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE MARCH ON THIS WEEK MARKS THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE MARCH ON WASHINGTON, A CRITICAL MOMENT IN ANNIVERSARY OF THE MARCH ON WASHINGTON, A CRITICAL MOMENT IN THAT MOVEMENT AND A MOMENT WHICH WASHINGTON, A CRITICAL MOMENT IN THAT MOVEMENT AND A MOMENT WHICH HAS BECOME EMBLEMATIC OF THE THAT MOVEMENT AND A MOMENT WHICH HAS BECOME EMBLEMATIC OF THE EPIC STRUGGLE FOR EQUALITY IN HAS BECOME EMBLEMATIC OF THE EPIC STRUGGLE FOR EQUALITY IN AMERICA.

EPIC STRUGGLE FOR EQUALITY IN AMERICA.

>> I HAVE A DREAM THAT ONE DAY AMERICA.

>> I HAVE A DREAM THAT ONE DAY -- >> I HAVE A DREAM THAT ONE DAY -- >> IT'S BEEN A HALF CENTURY -- >> IT'S BEEN A HALF CENTURY SINCE >> IT'S BEEN A HALF CENTURY SINCE DOCTOR MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR.

SINCE DOCTOR MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR.

DELIVERED HIS FAMOUS "I HAVE A DOCTOR MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR.

DELIVERED HIS FAMOUS "I HAVE A DREAM" SPEECH.

DELIVERED HIS FAMOUS "I HAVE A DREAM" SPEECH.

>> WE HOLD THESE TRUTHS TO BE DREAM" SPEECH.

>> WE HOLD THESE TRUTHS TO BE SELF EVIDENT THAT ALL MEN ARE >> WE HOLD THESE TRUTHS TO BE SELF EVIDENT THAT ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL.

SELF EVIDENT THAT ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL.

>> 250,000 PEOPLE WITNESSED THAT CREATED EQUAL.

>> 250,000 PEOPLE WITNESSED THAT SPEECH.

>> 250,000 PEOPLE WITNESSED THAT SPEECH.

DENICE TYREE TURNER WAS IN THE SPEECH.

DENICE TYREE TURNER WAS IN THE CROWD ON THE NATIONAL MALL.

DENICE TYREE TURNER WAS IN THE CROWD ON THE NATIONAL MALL.

SHE WAS A TEENAGER BUT REMEMBERS CROWD ON THE NATIONAL MALL.

SHE WAS A TEENAGER BUT REMEMBERS THAT DAY WITH INTENSE CLARITY.

SHE WAS A TEENAGER BUT REMEMBERS THAT DAY WITH INTENSE CLARITY.

SHE SAYS WHILE WOMEN IN THE THAT DAY WITH INTENSE CLARITY.

SHE SAYS WHILE WOMEN IN THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT WERE NOT SHE SAYS WHILE WOMEN IN THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT WERE NOT AS VISIBLE, THEY WERE IMPORTANT.

CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT WERE NOT AS VISIBLE, THEY WERE IMPORTANT.

>> WE WERE WORKERS TO GET PEOPLE AS VISIBLE, THEY WERE IMPORTANT.

>> WE WERE WORKERS TO GET PEOPLE OUT, AND WE HELD BAKE SALES AND >> WE WERE WORKERS TO GET PEOPLE OUT, AND WE HELD BAKE SALES AND THINGS IN ORDER TO GET MONEY TO OUT, AND WE HELD BAKE SALES AND THINGS IN ORDER TO GET MONEY TO DONATE TO THE RIDERS.

THINGS IN ORDER TO GET MONEY TO DONATE TO THE RIDERS.

I DON'T SEE US AS LEADERS IN THE DONATE TO THE RIDERS.

I DON'T SEE US AS LEADERS IN THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENTS EVEN I DON'T SEE US AS LEADERS IN THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENTS EVEN THOUGH I SINCE FOUND OUT WE DID CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENTS EVEN THOUGH I SINCE FOUND OUT WE DID HAVE SOME.

THOUGH I SINCE FOUND OUT WE DID HAVE SOME.

>> SOME OF THOSE CIVIL RIGHTS HAVE SOME.

>> SOME OF THOSE CIVIL RIGHTS LEADERS INCLUDE ROSA PARKS, >> SOME OF THOSE CIVIL RIGHTS LEADERS INCLUDE ROSA PARKS, SHIRLEY CHISHOLM, DOROTHY HEIGHT LEADERS INCLUDE ROSA PARKS, SHIRLEY CHISHOLM, DOROTHY HEIGHT AND FANNIE LOU HAMER.

SHIRLEY CHISHOLM, DOROTHY HEIGHT AND FANNIE LOU HAMER.

BUT THESE LEADERS WERE NOT IN AND FANNIE LOU HAMER.

BUT THESE LEADERS WERE NOT IN THE FOREFRONT, SO YOUNG WOMEN BUT THESE LEADERS WERE NOT IN THE FOREFRONT, SO YOUNG WOMEN SUCH AS TYREE TURNER DID NOT SEE THE FOREFRONT, SO YOUNG WOMEN SUCH AS TYREE TURNER DID NOT SEE THEIR IMPACT.

SUCH AS TYREE TURNER DID NOT SEE THEIR IMPACT.

NO WOMAN ADDRESSED THE MARCH ON THEIR IMPACT.

NO WOMAN ADDRESSED THE MARCH ON WASHINGTON.

NO WOMAN ADDRESSED THE MARCH ON WASHINGTON.

BUT WOMEN WERE PRESENT AND DROVE WASHINGTON.

BUT WOMEN WERE PRESENT AND DROVE THE MOVEMENT FORWARD.

BUT WOMEN WERE PRESENT AND DROVE THE MOVEMENT FORWARD.

>> WE WERE FLUFF, REALLY, AT THE MOVEMENT FORWARD.

>> WE WERE FLUFF, REALLY, AT LEAST THEY THOUGHT WE WERE >> WE WERE FLUFF, REALLY, AT LEAST THEY THOUGHT WE WERE FLUFF, BUT WE WERE COMING INTO LEAST THEY THOUGHT WE WERE FLUFF, BUT WE WERE COMING INTO OUR OWN.

FLUFF, BUT WE WERE COMING INTO OUR OWN.

WE WERE DEMANDING TO BE TREATED OUR OWN.

WE WERE DEMANDING TO BE TREATED AS PEOPLE WITH INTELLIGENCE.

WE WERE DEMANDING TO BE TREATED AS PEOPLE WITH INTELLIGENCE.

>> TURNER WAS INVOLVED IN THE AS PEOPLE WITH INTELLIGENCE.

>> TURNER WAS INVOLVED IN THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT FROM AN >> TURNER WAS INVOLVED IN THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT FROM AN EARLY AGE.

CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT FROM AN EARLY AGE.

SHE WAS PART OF A SIT-IN AT A EARLY AGE.

SHE WAS PART OF A SIT-IN AT A SEGREGATED DINER IN RALEIGH, SHE WAS PART OF A SIT-IN AT A SEGREGATED DINER IN RALEIGH, NORTH CAROLINA.

SEGREGATED DINER IN RALEIGH, NORTH CAROLINA.

WHEN HER CHURCH URGED NORTH CAROLINA.

WHEN HER CHURCH URGED PARISHIONERS TO JOIN THE MARCH, WHEN HER CHURCH URGED PARISHIONERS TO JOIN THE MARCH, SHE DID.

PARISHIONERS TO JOIN THE MARCH, SHE DID.

BUT WHEN SHE ARRIVED AT THE MALL SHE DID.

BUT WHEN SHE ARRIVED AT THE MALL AND FIRST SAW THE MASS OF PEOPLE BUT WHEN SHE ARRIVED AT THE MALL AND FIRST SAW THE MASS OF PEOPLE GATHERED, SHE FELT NERVOUS.

AND FIRST SAW THE MASS OF PEOPLE GATHERED, SHE FELT NERVOUS.

>> I WAS FRIGHTENED, I WALKED GATHERED, SHE FELT NERVOUS.

>> I WAS FRIGHTENED, I WALKED AROUND THE OUTSKIRTS OF IT FOR A >> I WAS FRIGHTENED, I WALKED AROUND THE OUTSKIRTS OF IT FOR A WHILE TO GET MY BEARINGS, AND AROUND THE OUTSKIRTS OF IT FOR A WHILE TO GET MY BEARINGS, AND ACTUALLY TO JUDGE, TO SEE HOW WHILE TO GET MY BEARINGS, AND ACTUALLY TO JUDGE, TO SEE HOW PEOPLE WERE, BECAUSE THERE WERE ACTUALLY TO JUDGE, TO SEE HOW PEOPLE WERE, BECAUSE THERE WERE SO MANY WHITES, THAT I DIDN'T PEOPLE WERE, BECAUSE THERE WERE SO MANY WHITES, THAT I DIDN'T KNOW IF THEY WERE GOING TO BE SO MANY WHITES, THAT I DIDN'T KNOW IF THEY WERE GOING TO BE TROUBLEMAKERS OR WERE THEY KNOW IF THEY WERE GOING TO BE TROUBLEMAKERS OR WERE THEY ACTUALLY HERE FOR THE - TO TROUBLEMAKERS OR WERE THEY ACTUALLY HERE FOR THE - TO PARTICIPATE IN THE, TO SUPPORT ACTUALLY HERE FOR THE - TO PARTICIPATE IN THE, TO SUPPORT THE MARCH.

PARTICIPATE IN THE, TO SUPPORT THE MARCH.

I EVENTUALLY WENT INTO THE THE MARCH.

I EVENTUALLY WENT INTO THE THRONG OF PEOPLE, THEY WERE SO I EVENTUALLY WENT INTO THE THRONG OF PEOPLE, THEY WERE SO FRIENDLY, AND I FELT VERY THRONG OF PEOPLE, THEY WERE SO FRIENDLY, AND I FELT VERY COMFORTABLE AND THEN I FELT LIKE FRIENDLY, AND I FELT VERY COMFORTABLE AND THEN I FELT LIKE I KNEW THEM SO I HOOKED UP WITH COMFORTABLE AND THEN I FELT LIKE I KNEW THEM SO I HOOKED UP WITH SOME GROUP AND WE MARCHED AND WE I KNEW THEM SO I HOOKED UP WITH SOME GROUP AND WE MARCHED AND WE SANG, AND WE SANG AND WE SOME GROUP AND WE MARCHED AND WE SANG, AND WE SANG AND WE MARCHED.

SANG, AND WE SANG AND WE MARCHED.

♪ MARCHED.

♪ I HOOKED UP WITH SOME GROUP AND ♪ I HOOKED UP WITH SOME GROUP AND WE MARCHED AND WE SANG AND WE I HOOKED UP WITH SOME GROUP AND WE MARCHED AND WE SANG AND WE SANG AND WE MARCHED.

WE MARCHED AND WE SANG AND WE SANG AND WE MARCHED.

>> THE MARCH ON WASHINGTON IS SANG AND WE MARCHED.

>> THE MARCH ON WASHINGTON IS CREDITED WITH HELPING PASS THE >> THE MARCH ON WASHINGTON IS CREDITED WITH HELPING PASS THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT OF 1964 AND THE CREDITED WITH HELPING PASS THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT OF 1964 AND THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT OF 1965.

VOTING RIGHTS ACT OF 1965.

>> I HAD NO IDEA THAT IT WAS >> I HAD NO IDEA THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE SUCH AN IMPORTANT >> I HAD NO IDEA THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE SUCH AN IMPORTANT DAY, AN IMPORTANT GOING TO BE SUCH AN IMPORTANT DAY, AN IMPORTANT ACCOMPLISHMENT.

DAY, AN IMPORTANT ACCOMPLISHMENT.

IT WAS GOING TO HAVE SUCH A ACCOMPLISHMENT.

IT WAS GOING TO HAVE SUCH A MAJOR IMPORTANCE TO THE BLACK IT WAS GOING TO HAVE SUCH A MAJOR IMPORTANCE TO THE BLACK RACE, AND NATIONAL, NOT JUST MAJOR IMPORTANCE TO THE BLACK RACE, AND NATIONAL, NOT JUST NATIONAL IMPORTANCE, BUT RACE, AND NATIONAL, NOT JUST NATIONAL IMPORTANCE, BUT INTERNATIONAL.

NATIONAL IMPORTANCE, BUT INTERNATIONAL.

I HAD NO IDEA AND IT TOOK ME, INTERNATIONAL.

I HAD NO IDEA AND IT TOOK ME, PROBABLY IN MY TWENTIES BEFORE I I HAD NO IDEA AND IT TOOK ME, PROBABLY IN MY TWENTIES BEFORE I REALIZED THAT IT WAS SO PROBABLY IN MY TWENTIES BEFORE I REALIZED THAT IT WAS SO IMPORTANT.

REALIZED THAT IT WAS SO IMPORTANT.

>> TURNER HAS SINCE DEVOTED HER IMPORTANT.

>> TURNER HAS SINCE DEVOTED HER LIFE TO WORKING FOR CIVIL >> TURNER HAS SINCE DEVOTED HER LIFE TO WORKING FOR CIVIL RIGHTS.

LIFE TO WORKING FOR CIVIL RIGHTS.

IN VARIOUS GOVERNMENT JOBS, SHE RIGHTS.

IN VARIOUS GOVERNMENT JOBS, SHE FOUGHT TO HELP WOMEN AND PEOPLE IN VARIOUS GOVERNMENT JOBS, SHE FOUGHT TO HELP WOMEN AND PEOPLE OF COLOR GET FAIR TREATMENT.

FOUGHT TO HELP WOMEN AND PEOPLE OF COLOR GET FAIR TREATMENT.

>> THAT'S SOMETHING I TOLD MY OF COLOR GET FAIR TREATMENT.

>> THAT'S SOMETHING I TOLD MY CHILDREN ABOUT, THEY'RE ALL >> THAT'S SOMETHING I TOLD MY CHILDREN ABOUT, THEY'RE ALL AWARE OF THAT, AND I HOPE THEY CHILDREN ABOUT, THEY'RE ALL AWARE OF THAT, AND I HOPE THEY TELL THEIR GRANDCHILDREN OF AWARE OF THAT, AND I HOPE THEY TELL THEIR GRANDCHILDREN OF THAT.

TELL THEIR GRANDCHILDREN OF THAT.

I'M VERY PROUD OF THAT, I AM THAT.

I'M VERY PROUD OF THAT, I AM PROUD THAT I PARTICIPATED IN I'M VERY PROUD OF THAT, I AM PROUD THAT I PARTICIPATED IN RALEIGH, NORTH CAROLINA IN THE PROUD THAT I PARTICIPATED IN RALEIGH, NORTH CAROLINA IN THE SIT-IN.

RALEIGH, NORTH CAROLINA IN THE SIT-IN.

AND THE MARCH ON WASHINGTON.

SIT-IN.

AND THE MARCH ON WASHINGTON.

I'M GOING TO PARTICIPATE ON THE AND THE MARCH ON WASHINGTON.

I'M GOING TO PARTICIPATE ON THE 50th ANNIVERSARY, TOO.

I'M GOING TO PARTICIPATE ON THE 50th ANNIVERSARY, TOO.

>> YOU WERE ON THE ORGANIZING 50th ANNIVERSARY, TOO.

>> YOU WERE ON THE ORGANIZING COMMITTEE FOR THE MARCH TELL US >> YOU WERE ON THE ORGANIZING COMMITTEE FOR THE MARCH TELL US ABOUT THAT.

COMMITTEE FOR THE MARCH TELL US ABOUT THAT.

SINCE I KNOW ONE OF THE BIGGEST ABOUT THAT.

SINCE I KNOW ONE OF THE BIGGEST WOMEN'S ADVOCATES EVER ON THIS SINCE I KNOW ONE OF THE BIGGEST WOMEN'S ADVOCATES EVER ON THIS PLANET, WHY WEREN'T THERE ANY WOMEN'S ADVOCATES EVER ON THIS PLANET, WHY WEREN'T THERE ANY WOMEN SIEGERS?

PLANET, WHY WEREN'T THERE ANY WOMEN SIEGERS?

>> I CAN TELL YOU THERE WERE A WOMEN SIEGERS?

>> I CAN TELL YOU THERE WERE A LOT OF WOMEN ON THE STAFF OF >> I CAN TELL YOU THERE WERE A LOT OF WOMEN ON THE STAFF OF MARCH ON WASHINGTON WHICH I LOT OF WOMEN ON THE STAFF OF MARCH ON WASHINGTON WHICH I SERVED AS A LAW STUDENT.

MARCH ON WASHINGTON WHICH I SERVED AS A LAW STUDENT.

WHERE I'D BEEN IN THE SERVED AS A LAW STUDENT.

WHERE I'D BEEN IN THE MISSISSIPPI DELTA IT HAD FINALLY WHERE I'D BEEN IN THE MISSISSIPPI DELTA IT HAD FINALLY GELLED.

MISSISSIPPI DELTA IT HAD FINALLY GELLED.

IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN, CAME TO GELLED.

IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN, CAME TO THE BRILLIANT ORGANIZER OF THE IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN, CAME TO THE BRILLIANT ORGANIZER OF THE MARCH.

THE BRILLIANT ORGANIZER OF THE MARCH.

NOW, I FOUND PLENTY OF WOMEN ON MARCH.

NOW, I FOUND PLENTY OF WOMEN ON THIS AMATEUR STAFF BECAUSE BYRON NOW, I FOUND PLENTY OF WOMEN ON THIS AMATEUR STAFF BECAUSE BYRON WAS ONLY ONE WHO REALLY KNEW THIS AMATEUR STAFF BECAUSE BYRON WAS ONLY ONE WHO REALLY KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING.

WAS ONLY ONE WHO REALLY KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING.

WHAT THEY ARE REALLY TALKING WHAT HE WAS DOING.

WHAT THEY ARE REALLY TALKING ABOUT IS THE STAKE OF THE CIVIL WHAT THEY ARE REALLY TALKING ABOUT IS THE STAKE OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT CIRCA 1963.

ABOUT IS THE STAKE OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT CIRCA 1963.

IT WAS FRANKLY MORE ADVANCED RIGHTS MOVEMENT CIRCA 1963.

IT WAS FRANKLY MORE ADVANCED THAN AMERICA IN GENERAL.

IT WAS FRANKLY MORE ADVANCED THAN AMERICA IN GENERAL.

BUT NOT SIGNIFICANTLY MORE.

THAN AMERICA IN GENERAL.

BUT NOT SIGNIFICANTLY MORE.

THERE WAS SOME CONSCIOUSNESS BUT NOT SIGNIFICANTLY MORE.

THERE WAS SOME CONSCIOUSNESS AMONG THE YOUNGER WOMEN THAT THERE WAS SOME CONSCIOUSNESS AMONG THE YOUNGER WOMEN THAT WOMEN HAD NOT GOTTEN THE AMONG THE YOUNGER WOMEN THAT WOMEN HAD NOT GOTTEN THE OPPORTUNITIES AND THE MOVEMENT WOMEN HAD NOT GOTTEN THE OPPORTUNITIES AND THE MOVEMENT THEY WERE ENTITLED TO, THAT OPPORTUNITIES AND THE MOVEMENT THEY WERE ENTITLED TO, THAT IS -- WE SAW THAT ABSOLUTELY.

THEY WERE ENTITLED TO, THAT IS -- WE SAW THAT ABSOLUTELY.

>> THAT WAS STOKELY CARMICHAEL'S IS -- WE SAW THAT ABSOLUTELY.

>> THAT WAS STOKELY CARMICHAEL'S ORGANIZATION.

>> THAT WAS STOKELY CARMICHAEL'S ORGANIZATION.

>> JOHN LEWIS'.

ORGANIZATION.

>> JOHN LEWIS'.

>> IT WAS CARMICHAEL -- ONE OF >> JOHN LEWIS'.

>> IT WAS CARMICHAEL -- ONE OF THE -- >> IT WAS CARMICHAEL -- ONE OF THE -- >> THE WOMEN IN THE MOVEMENT IS THE -- >> THE WOMEN IN THE MOVEMENT IS -- >> THE WOMEN IN THE MOVEMENT IS -- >> THAT'S AFTER JOHN AND THAT'S -- >> THAT'S AFTER JOHN AND THAT'S AFTER THE BLACK POWER MOVEMENT >> THAT'S AFTER JOHN AND THAT'S AFTER THE BLACK POWER MOVEMENT CAME IN.

AFTER THE BLACK POWER MOVEMENT CAME IN.

ONE THING WE ALSO AVOID IS THE CAME IN.

ONE THING WE ALSO AVOID IS THE KIND OF VISION OF HISTORY THAT ONE THING WE ALSO AVOID IS THE KIND OF VISION OF HISTORY THAT FRANKLY I'D LIKE TO DO WHICH IS KIND OF VISION OF HISTORY THAT FRANKLY I'D LIKE TO DO WHICH IS TO SAY WE STORMED SAID WHY DON'T FRANKLY I'D LIKE TO DO WHICH IS TO SAY WE STORMED SAID WHY DON'T YOU MAKE SURE THERE'S SOME WOMEN TO SAY WE STORMED SAID WHY DON'T YOU MAKE SURE THERE'S SOME WOMEN SPEAKERS.

YOU MAKE SURE THERE'S SOME WOMEN SPEAKERS.

I THINK THE REASON THAT WE WERE SPEAKERS.

I THINK THE REASON THAT WE WERE YOU AD BY THE MARCH AND THE I THINK THE REASON THAT WE WERE YOU AD BY THE MARCH AND THE FEMINISM IN US DID NOT COME OUT YOU AD BY THE MARCH AND THE FEMINISM IN US DID NOT COME OUT YET IS BECAUSE WE WERE JUST A FEMINISM IN US DID NOT COME OUT YET IS BECAUSE WE WERE JUST A FEW YEARS AHEAD OF FEMINIST YET IS BECAUSE WE WERE JUST A FEW YEARS AHEAD OF FEMINIST CONSCIOUSNESS OF ANY KIND, FEW YEARS AHEAD OF FEMINIST CONSCIOUSNESS OF ANY KIND, ANYWHERE.

CONSCIOUSNESS OF ANY KIND, ANYWHERE.

DO REMEMBER THAT.

ANYWHERE.

DO REMEMBER THAT.

AND THE SECOND REASON IS THAT IF DO REMEMBER THAT.

AND THE SECOND REASON IS THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THE EARLY '60S THERE AND THE SECOND REASON IS THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THE EARLY '60S THERE WAS ONE ISSUE AND ONLY ONE ISSUE YOU LOOK AT THE EARLY '60S THERE WAS ONE ISSUE AND ONLY ONE ISSUE THAT WAS THE NATIONAL ISSUE JUST WAS ONE ISSUE AND ONLY ONE ISSUE THAT WAS THE NATIONAL ISSUE JUST LIKE WAR IS, IT WAS RACE AND THAT WAS THE NATIONAL ISSUE JUST LIKE WAR IS, IT WAS RACE AND RACISM.

LIKE WAR IS, IT WAS RACE AND RACISM.

HOW DID EVERY ISSUE, THE NOTION RACISM.

HOW DID EVERY ISSUE, THE NOTION OF GOING FROM ZERO, NEVER A HOW DID EVERY ISSUE, THE NOTION OF GOING FROM ZERO, NEVER A MARCH ON CIVIL RIGHTS OR OF GOING FROM ZERO, NEVER A MARCH ON CIVIL RIGHTS OR ANYTHING ELSE.

MARCH ON CIVIL RIGHTS OR ANYTHING ELSE.

250,000 PEOPLE AS FAR AS THE EYE ANYTHING ELSE.

250,000 PEOPLE AS FAR AS THE EYE COULD SEE ON THE MALL WAS SO 250,000 PEOPLE AS FAR AS THE EYE COULD SEE ON THE MALL WAS SO AWESOME THAT THERE WAS VERY COULD SEE ON THE MALL WAS SO AWESOME THAT THERE WAS VERY LITTLE CRITICISM OF THE MARCH AWESOME THAT THERE WAS VERY LITTLE CRITICISM OF THE MARCH ITSELF.

LITTLE CRITICISM OF THE MARCH ITSELF.

ONLY CONGRATULATIONS AND ELATION ITSELF.

ONLY CONGRATULATIONS AND ELATION THAT IT CAME OFF SO WELL, BUT ONLY CONGRATULATIONS AND ELATION THAT IT CAME OFF SO WELL, BUT THAT WOULD LAST ONLY A FEW THAT IT CAME OFF SO WELL, BUT THAT WOULD LAST ONLY A FEW YEARS.

THAT WOULD LAST ONLY A FEW YEARS.

>> LOOK TALKING ABOUT THE WOMEN YEARS.

>> LOOK TALKING ABOUT THE WOMEN AS PART OF THE MOVEMENT YOU HAD >> LOOK TALKING ABOUT THE WOMEN AS PART OF THE MOVEMENT YOU HAD MOTHERS WHO WERE PART OF THE AS PART OF THE MOVEMENT YOU HAD MOTHERS WHO WERE PART OF THE MOVEMENT.

MOTHERS WHO WERE PART OF THE MOVEMENT.

EMMITT WHEN I WAS LYNCHED IN MOVEMENT.

EMMITT WHEN I WAS LYNCHED IN MISSISSIPPI, HIS MOTHER PUT EMMITT WHEN I WAS LYNCHED IN MISSISSIPPI, HIS MOTHER PUT FORTH, LET'S OPEN UP THE MISSISSIPPI, HIS MOTHER PUT FORTH, LET'S OPEN UP THE CASSETTE.

FORTH, LET'S OPEN UP THE CASSETTE.

THAT HELPED CATAPULT THE CIVIL CASSETTE.

THAT HELPED CATAPULT THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT.

THAT HELPED CATAPULT THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT.

AND -- RIGHTS MOVEMENT.

AND -- >> GRETA SCOTT KING.

AND -- >> GRETA SCOTT KING.

>> CORETTA SCOTT KING.

>> GRETA SCOTT KING.

>> CORETTA SCOTT KING.

SAVANNAH HOWARD WHO IS MY >> CORETTA SCOTT KING.

SAVANNAH HOWARD WHO IS MY GRANDMOTHER WHO NOBODY KNOWS HER SAVANNAH HOWARD WHO IS MY GRANDMOTHER WHO NOBODY KNOWS HER SHE WENT DOOR TO DOOR BEGGING GRANDMOTHER WHO NOBODY KNOWS HER SHE WENT DOOR TO DOOR BEGGING FOR CLOTHES TO WASH SO HE COULD SHE WENT DOOR TO DOOR BEGGING FOR CLOTHES TO WASH SO HE COULD GO TO SCHOOL.

FOR CLOTHES TO WASH SO HE COULD GO TO SCHOOL.

LATER ON MY FATHER HELPED GO TO SCHOOL.

LATER ON MY FATHER HELPED INTEGRATE THE SCHOOLS IN LATER ON MY FATHER HELPED INTEGRATE THE SCHOOLS IN MISSISSIPPI HE BECAME -- HE INTEGRATE THE SCHOOLS IN MISSISSIPPI HE BECAME -- HE STOPPED CHAIN GANGS IN MISSISSIPPI HE BECAME -- HE STOPPED CHAIN GANGS IN MISSISSIPPI.

STOPPED CHAIN GANGS IN MISSISSIPPI.

WOMEN WERE NOT IN THE FOREFRONT, MISSISSIPPI.

WOMEN WERE NOT IN THE FOREFRONT, WE'RE THERE.

WOMEN WERE NOT IN THE FOREFRONT, WE'RE THERE.

>> LET'S NOT FORGET HOW THE WE'RE THERE.

>> LET'S NOT FORGET HOW THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT INSPIRED >> LET'S NOT FORGET HOW THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT INSPIRED OTHER MOVEMENTS AND TAUGHT THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT INSPIRED OTHER MOVEMENTS AND TAUGHT THE NATION HOW TO ORGANIZE AND HOW OTHER MOVEMENTS AND TAUGHT THE NATION HOW TO ORGANIZE AND HOW TO FOMENT CHANGE.

NATION HOW TO ORGANIZE AND HOW TO FOMENT CHANGE.

ESPECIALLY FEMINISM.

TO FOMENT CHANGE.

ESPECIALLY FEMINISM.

MANY OF THE WOMEN THAT WOULD ESPECIALLY FEMINISM.

MANY OF THE WOMEN THAT WOULD LATER INAUGURATE THE WOMEN'S MANY OF THE WOMEN THAT WOULD LATER INAUGURATE THE WOMEN'S MOVEMENT.

LATER INAUGURATE THE WOMEN'S MOVEMENT.

>> THAT'S TRUE.

MOVEMENT.

>> THAT'S TRUE.

THE FEMME CYST MOVEMENT WAS >> THAT'S TRUE.

THE FEMME CYST MOVEMENT WAS AROUND BEFORE THE '60S ALSO.

THE FEMME CYST MOVEMENT WAS AROUND BEFORE THE '60S ALSO.

BECAUSE YOU HAD -- AROUND BEFORE THE '60S ALSO.

BECAUSE YOU HAD -- >> FEMININE MYSTIQUE DIDN'T COME BECAUSE YOU HAD -- >> FEMININE MYSTIQUE DIDN'T COME OUT UNTIL '65.

>> FEMININE MYSTIQUE DIDN'T COME OUT UNTIL '65.

THAT IS -- YES, THERE WAS THE OUT UNTIL '65.

THAT IS -- YES, THERE WAS THE 1848 CONVENTION OVER IN EUROPE THAT IS -- YES, THERE WAS THE 1848 CONVENTION OVER IN EUROPE THAT AMERICAN FEMINISTS WENT TO.

1848 CONVENTION OVER IN EUROPE THAT AMERICAN FEMINISTS WENT TO.

>> IN THE 1920s.

THAT AMERICAN FEMINISTS WENT TO.

>> IN THE 1920s.

>> AFTER THE SUFFRAGE MOVEMENT, >> IN THE 1920s.

>> AFTER THE SUFFRAGE MOVEMENT, THE MOVEMENT WAS THE -- >> AFTER THE SUFFRAGE MOVEMENT, THE MOVEMENT WAS THE -- >> EVEN WOODROW WILSON FOUGHT THE MOVEMENT WAS THE -- >> EVEN WOODROW WILSON FOUGHT AGAINST IT, WOMEN TO VOTE.

>> EVEN WOODROW WILSON FOUGHT AGAINST IT, WOMEN TO VOTE.

WE'VE ALREADY GIVEN THE NEGRO AGAINST IT, WOMEN TO VOTE.

WE'VE ALREADY GIVEN THE NEGRO THE RIGHT TO VOTE AT THE TIME WE'VE ALREADY GIVEN THE NEGRO THE RIGHT TO VOTE AT THE TIME BUT GOING TO TAKE AWHILE BEFORE THE RIGHT TO VOTE AT THE TIME BUT GOING TO TAKE AWHILE BEFORE WOMEN.

BUT GOING TO TAKE AWHILE BEFORE WOMEN.

>> TO THE POINT, YES.

WOMEN.

>> TO THE POINT, YES.

IT'S EASY TO LOOK GO, WHERE WERE >> TO THE POINT, YES.

IT'S EASY TO LOOK GO, WHERE WERE THE WOMEN.

IT'S EASY TO LOOK GO, WHERE WERE THE WOMEN.

BUT TAKE IN THE CONTEXT OF WHICH THE WOMEN.

BUT TAKE IN THE CONTEXT OF WHICH IT WAS.

BUT TAKE IN THE CONTEXT OF WHICH IT WAS.

IT WAS STILL INCREDIBLE, IT WAS.

IT WAS STILL INCREDIBLE, PEACEFUL EVENT I THINK THAT IT WAS STILL INCREDIBLE, PEACEFUL EVENT I THINK THAT SHOCKED THE NATION CERTAINLY AND PEACEFUL EVENT I THINK THAT SHOCKED THE NATION CERTAINLY AND OPENED THE EYES OF A -- SHOCKED THE NATION CERTAINLY AND OPENED THE EYES OF A -- >> I THINK IT SHOWED YOU OPENED THE EYES OF A -- >> I THINK IT SHOWED YOU SOMETHING ELSE.

>> I THINK IT SHOWED YOU SOMETHING ELSE.

EVEN TODAY.

SOMETHING ELSE.

EVEN TODAY.

THERE IS NO CIVIL RIGHTS EVEN TODAY.

THERE IS NO CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT THAT HAS EVER HAD A THERE IS NO CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT THAT HAS EVER HAD A WOMAN AS ITS LEADER.

MOVEMENT THAT HAS EVER HAD A WOMAN AS ITS LEADER.

NOT THE URBAN LEAGUE, NOT THE WOMAN AS ITS LEADER.

NOT THE URBAN LEAGUE, NOT THE NAACP.

NOT THE URBAN LEAGUE, NOT THE NAACP.

WHAT DOES THAT TELL US, THAT NAACP.

WHAT DOES THAT TELL US, THAT ALTHOUGH MORE THAN A THIRD WHAT DOES THAT TELL US, THAT ALTHOUGH MORE THAN A THIRD WOMEN, WHOLE LOT MORE THAN WE ALTHOUGH MORE THAN A THIRD WOMEN, WHOLE LOT MORE THAN WE CAN SAY FOR THE CONGRESS IN WOMEN, WHOLE LOT MORE THAN WE CAN SAY FOR THE CONGRESS IN GENERAL, IT DOES SHOW US THAT CAN SAY FOR THE CONGRESS IN GENERAL, IT DOES SHOW US THAT NONE OF US ARE SO FAR ADVANCED GENERAL, IT DOES SHOW US THAT NONE OF US ARE SO FAR ADVANCED THAT WE DON'T NEED TO WORK HARD NONE OF US ARE SO FAR ADVANCED THAT WE DON'T NEED TO WORK HARD TO MAKE SURE WOMEN ARE TREATED THAT WE DON'T NEED TO WORK HARD TO MAKE SURE WOMEN ARE TREATED EQUALLY.

TO MAKE SURE WOMEN ARE TREATED EQUALLY.

>> ALL RIGHT.

EQUALLY.

>> ALL RIGHT.

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