>>> THIS WEEK ON TO THE >>> THIS WEEK ON TO THE CONTRARY: >>> THIS WEEK ON TO THE CONTRARY: MAJOR PROGRESS ON THE FIGHT TO CONTRARY: MAJOR PROGRESS ON THE FIGHT TO END SEXUAL ASSAULT MAJOR PROGRESS ON THE FIGHT TO END SEXUAL ASSAULT IN THE MILITARY.

END SEXUAL ASSAULT IN THE MILITARY.

THEN, HISTORIC FIRSTS AND NEW IN THE MILITARY.

THEN, HISTORIC FIRSTS AND NEW RIGHTS FOR TRANSGENDER WORKERS.

THEN, HISTORIC FIRSTS AND NEW RIGHTS FOR TRANSGENDER WORKERS.

BEHIND THE HEADLINES: WHY DO RIGHTS FOR TRANSGENDER WORKERS.

BEHIND THE HEADLINES: WHY DO WOMEN-OWNED BUSINESSES ONLY WIN BEHIND THE HEADLINES: WHY DO WOMEN-OWNED BUSINESSES ONLY WIN 4% OF GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS WOMEN-OWNED BUSINESSES ONLY WIN 4% OF GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS ♪ >> HELLO, I'M BONNIE ERBE.

>> HELLO, I'M BONNIE ERBE.

WELCOME TO TO THE CONTRARY, A >> HELLO, I'M BONNIE ERBE.

WELCOME TO TO THE CONTRARY, A DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL WELCOME TO TO THE CONTRARY, A DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL TRENDS FROM DIVERSE DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL TRENDS FROM DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES.

TRENDS FROM DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES.

UP FIRST, IS AN END TO RAMPANT PERSPECTIVES.

UP FIRST, IS AN END TO RAMPANT SEXUAL ASSAULT IN THE MILITARY UP FIRST, IS AN END TO RAMPANT SEXUAL ASSAULT IN THE MILITARY IN SIGHT?

SEXUAL ASSAULT IN THE MILITARY IN SIGHT?

NEW YORK DEMOCRATIC SENATOR IN SIGHT?

NEW YORK DEMOCRATIC SENATOR KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND IS LEADING NEW YORK DEMOCRATIC SENATOR KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND IS LEADING THE FIGHT TO CHANGE THE WAY THE KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND IS LEADING THE FIGHT TO CHANGE THE WAY THE MILITARY PROSECUTES SEXUAL THE FIGHT TO CHANGE THE WAY THE MILITARY PROSECUTES SEXUAL ASSAULT CRIMES.

MILITARY PROSECUTES SEXUAL ASSAULT CRIMES.

THIS WEEK, SHE PICKED UP SOME ASSAULT CRIMES.

THIS WEEK, SHE PICKED UP SOME KEY BUT UNLIKELY ENDORSEMENTS THIS WEEK, SHE PICKED UP SOME KEY BUT UNLIKELY ENDORSEMENTS FROM REPUBLICAN SENATORS AND TEA KEY BUT UNLIKELY ENDORSEMENTS FROM REPUBLICAN SENATORS AND TEA PARTY FAVORITES RAND PAUL OF FROM REPUBLICAN SENATORS AND TEA PARTY FAVORITES RAND PAUL OF KENTUCKY AND TED CRUZ OF TEXAS.

PARTY FAVORITES RAND PAUL OF KENTUCKY AND TED CRUZ OF TEXAS.

SHE WANTS TO TAKE THE DECISION KENTUCKY AND TED CRUZ OF TEXAS.

SHE WANTS TO TAKE THE DECISION WHETHER TO PROSECUTE SOMEONE OUT SHE WANTS TO TAKE THE DECISION WHETHER TO PROSECUTE SOMEONE OUT OF THE HANDS OF THAT SOLDIER'S WHETHER TO PROSECUTE SOMEONE OUT OF THE HANDS OF THAT SOLDIER'S SUPERIOR OFFICERS OR CHAIN OF OF THE HANDS OF THAT SOLDIER'S SUPERIOR OFFICERS OR CHAIN OF COMMAND.

SUPERIOR OFFICERS OR CHAIN OF COMMAND.

SHE WANTS TO PLACE THAT POWER IN COMMAND.

SHE WANTS TO PLACE THAT POWER IN THE HANDS OF TRAINED MILITARY SHE WANTS TO PLACE THAT POWER IN THE HANDS OF TRAINED MILITARY PROSECUTORS WHO SHE SAYS CAN BE THE HANDS OF TRAINED MILITARY PROSECUTORS WHO SHE SAYS CAN BE MORE OBJECTIVE.

PROSECUTORS WHO SHE SAYS CAN BE MORE OBJECTIVE.

>> IT'S A TRAINED MILITARY MORE OBJECTIVE.

>> IT'S A TRAINED MILITARY PROSECUTOR WITHIN THE JAG CORPS >> IT'S A TRAINED MILITARY PROSECUTOR WITHIN THE JAG CORPS WHO DOES NOT REPORT TO THE CHAIN PROSECUTOR WITHIN THE JAG CORPS WHO DOES NOT REPORT TO THE CHAIN OF COMMAND, THEY REPORT DIRECTLY WHO DOES NOT REPORT TO THE CHAIN OF COMMAND, THEY REPORT DIRECTLY TO THE SECRETARY OF THE OF COMMAND, THEY REPORT DIRECTLY TO THE SECRETARY OF THE SERVICES.

TO THE SECRETARY OF THE SERVICES.

SO IT'S INDEPENDENT, AND THERE SERVICES.

SO IT'S INDEPENDENT, AND THERE CAN BE NO COMMAND INFLUENCE.

SO IT'S INDEPENDENT, AND THERE CAN BE NO COMMAND INFLUENCE.

>> CRITICS SAY THE LEGISLATION CAN BE NO COMMAND INFLUENCE.

>> CRITICS SAY THE LEGISLATION STRIPS COMMANDERS OF THEIR >> CRITICS SAY THE LEGISLATION STRIPS COMMANDERS OF THEIR AUTHORITY.

STRIPS COMMANDERS OF THEIR AUTHORITY.

GILLIBRAND DISAGREES.

AUTHORITY.

GILLIBRAND DISAGREES.

>> HE'S THE ONE WHO'S GILLIBRAND DISAGREES.

>> HE'S THE ONE WHO'S RESPONSIBLE TO MAKE SURE THOSE >> HE'S THE ONE WHO'S RESPONSIBLE TO MAKE SURE THOSE RAPES AND ASSAULTS DON'T HAPPEN.

RESPONSIBLE TO MAKE SURE THOSE RAPES AND ASSAULTS DON'T HAPPEN.

HE'S THE ONE WHO IS RESPONSIBLE RAPES AND ASSAULTS DON'T HAPPEN.

HE'S THE ONE WHO IS RESPONSIBLE TO SET THE COMMAND CLIMATE.

HE'S THE ONE WHO IS RESPONSIBLE TO SET THE COMMAND CLIMATE.

HE'S THE ONE WHO'S RESPONSIBLE TO SET THE COMMAND CLIMATE.

HE'S THE ONE WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR GOOD ORDER AND DISCIPLINE.

HE'S THE ONE WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR GOOD ORDER AND DISCIPLINE.

HE'S THE ONE RESPONSIBLE TO MAKE FOR GOOD ORDER AND DISCIPLINE.

HE'S THE ONE RESPONSIBLE TO MAKE SURE THERE IS NO RETALIATION.

HE'S THE ONE RESPONSIBLE TO MAKE SURE THERE IS NO RETALIATION.

THE RESPONSIBILITY WE'RE GIVING SURE THERE IS NO RETALIATION.

THE RESPONSIBILITY WE'RE GIVING TO THESE TRAINED MILITARY THE RESPONSIBILITY WE'RE GIVING TO THESE TRAINED MILITARY PROSECUTORS IS JUST TO MAKE ONE TO THESE TRAINED MILITARY PROSECUTORS IS JUST TO MAKE ONE LEGAL DECISION, IS THERE ENOUGH PROSECUTORS IS JUST TO MAKE ONE LEGAL DECISION, IS THERE ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO GO TO TRIAL.

LEGAL DECISION, IS THERE ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO GO TO TRIAL.

AND THAT TAKES LEGAL TRAINING, EVIDENCE TO GO TO TRIAL.

AND THAT TAKES LEGAL TRAINING, IT TAKES PROSECUTORIAL AND THAT TAKES LEGAL TRAINING, IT TAKES PROSECUTORIAL DISCRETION.

IT TAKES PROSECUTORIAL DISCRETION.

AND SO I BELIEVE THAT OBJECTIVE DISCRETION.

AND SO I BELIEVE THAT OBJECTIVE REVIEW WILL BE FAIR BOTH TO THE AND SO I BELIEVE THAT OBJECTIVE REVIEW WILL BE FAIR BOTH TO THE VICTIM AND THE DEFENDANT.

REVIEW WILL BE FAIR BOTH TO THE VICTIM AND THE DEFENDANT.

>> SO, DR. AVIS VICTIM AND THE DEFENDANT.

>> SO, DR. AVIS JONES-DeWEEVER, >> SO, DR. AVIS JONES-DeWEEVER, WILL SENATOR GILLIBRAND'S JONES-DeWEEVER, WILL SENATOR GILLIBRAND'S PROPOSAL WORK TO HELP END SEXUAL WILL SENATOR GILLIBRAND'S PROPOSAL WORK TO HELP END SEXUAL ASSAULT IN THE MILITARY?

PROPOSAL WORK TO HELP END SEXUAL ASSAULT IN THE MILITARY?

>> I THINK IT WILL.

ASSAULT IN THE MILITARY?

>> I THINK IT WILL.

WHAT'S GOING ON ISN'T WORKING.

>> I THINK IT WILL.

WHAT'S GOING ON ISN'T WORKING.

TAKING THE POWER OUT OF THE WHAT'S GOING ON ISN'T WORKING.

TAKING THE POWER OUT OF THE CHAIN OF COMMAND MAKES SENSE AND TAKING THE POWER OUT OF THE CHAIN OF COMMAND MAKES SENSE AND IS A SOLUTION TO A DISTURBING CHAIN OF COMMAND MAKES SENSE AND IS A SOLUTION TO A DISTURBING PROBLEM.

IS A SOLUTION TO A DISTURBING PROBLEM.

>> THE ODDS ARE IN FAVOR OF IT PROBLEM.

>> THE ODDS ARE IN FAVOR OF IT WORKING.

>> THE ODDS ARE IN FAVOR OF IT WORKING.

IT'S CLEAR IT HASN'T WORKED UP WORKING.

IT'S CLEAR IT HASN'T WORKED UP TILL NOW WITH OUR SYSTEM SO WE IT'S CLEAR IT HASN'T WORKED UP TILL NOW WITH OUR SYSTEM SO WE HAVE TO CHANGE IT.

TILL NOW WITH OUR SYSTEM SO WE HAVE TO CHANGE IT.

>> THE CURRENT SYSTEM HAS HAVE TO CHANGE IT.

>> THE CURRENT SYSTEM HAS BROUGHT 26,000 ALLEGATIONS OF >> THE CURRENT SYSTEM HAS BROUGHT 26,000 ALLEGATIONS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT JUST LAST YEAR.

BROUGHT 26,000 ALLEGATIONS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT JUST LAST YEAR.

IT IS NOT WORKING, SO LET'S HOPE SEXUAL ASSAULT JUST LAST YEAR.

IT IS NOT WORKING, SO LET'S HOPE THIS DOES.

IT IS NOT WORKING, SO LET'S HOPE THIS DOES.

>> SEXUAL ASSAULT IS A THIS DOES.

>> SEXUAL ASSAULT IS A DESPICABLE CRIME AND CONGRESS >> SEXUAL ASSAULT IS A DESPICABLE CRIME AND CONGRESS NEEDS TO PAY MORE ATTENTION TO DESPICABLE CRIME AND CONGRESS NEEDS TO PAY MORE ATTENTION TO IT.

NEEDS TO PAY MORE ATTENTION TO IT.

IT NEEDS TO DO SO WHERE IT WON'T IT.

IT NEEDS TO DO SO WHERE IT WON'T WORK AROUND THE PROBLEM BUT GET IT NEEDS TO DO SO WHERE IT WON'T WORK AROUND THE PROBLEM BUT GET TO THE BASIS OF THE PROBLEM.

WORK AROUND THE PROBLEM BUT GET TO THE BASIS OF THE PROBLEM.

>> YOU SAY NOT TAKE IT OUT OF TO THE BASIS OF THE PROBLEM.

>> YOU SAY NOT TAKE IT OUT OF THE CHAIN OF COMMAND?

>> YOU SAY NOT TAKE IT OUT OF THE CHAIN OF COMMAND?

>> THE MILITARY JUSTICE SYSTEM THE CHAIN OF COMMAND?

>> THE MILITARY JUSTICE SYSTEM DEPENDS VERY MUCH ON THE >> THE MILITARY JUSTICE SYSTEM DEPENDS VERY MUCH ON THE STRUCTURE AND TO TAKE THIS OUT DEPENDS VERY MUCH ON THE STRUCTURE AND TO TAKE THIS OUT WOULD DELAY IT, DENY IT.

STRUCTURE AND TO TAKE THIS OUT WOULD DELAY IT, DENY IT.

WE NEED TO SEE CONGRESS INSIST WOULD DELAY IT, DENY IT.

WE NEED TO SEE CONGRESS INSIST THAT THE MILITARY CREATE A JAG WE NEED TO SEE CONGRESS INSIST THAT THE MILITARY CREATE A JAG CAREER TRACK THAT WOULD MAKE THAT THE MILITARY CREATE A JAG CAREER TRACK THAT WOULD MAKE SURE THERE IS ADEQUATE EXPERTISE CAREER TRACK THAT WOULD MAKE SURE THERE IS ADEQUATE EXPERTISE IN THE PROSECUTION AND DEFENSE SURE THERE IS ADEQUATE EXPERTISE IN THE PROSECUTION AND DEFENSE OF THESE KINDS OF CASES.

IN THE PROSECUTION AND DEFENSE OF THESE KINDS OF CASES.

>> BUT ISN'T THAT SORT OF WHAT OF THESE KINDS OF CASES.

>> BUT ISN'T THAT SORT OF WHAT SHE'S DOING?

>> BUT ISN'T THAT SORT OF WHAT SHE'S DOING?

I MEAN, SHE'S NOT TAKING IT OUT SHE'S DOING?

I MEAN, SHE'S NOT TAKING IT OUT OF THE MILITARY.

I MEAN, SHE'S NOT TAKING IT OUT OF THE MILITARY.

SHE'S TAKING IT OUT OF THE CHAIN OF THE MILITARY.

SHE'S TAKING IT OUT OF THE CHAIN OF COMMAND AND PUTTING IT IN THE SHE'S TAKING IT OUT OF THE CHAIN OF COMMAND AND PUTTING IT IN THE HANDS OF SPECIALLY-TRAINED OF COMMAND AND PUTTING IT IN THE HANDS OF SPECIALLY-TRAINED MILITARY JAG PROSECUTORS.

HANDS OF SPECIALLY-TRAINED MILITARY JAG PROSECUTORS.

>> BUT TAKING IT OUT OF THAT MILITARY JAG PROSECUTORS.

>> BUT TAKING IT OUT OF THAT COMMAND STRUCTURE COULD BE A >> BUT TAKING IT OUT OF THAT COMMAND STRUCTURE COULD BE A DISSERVICE.

COMMAND STRUCTURE COULD BE A DISSERVICE.

THAT'S THE PART.

DISSERVICE.

THAT'S THE PART.

>> I CAN'T IMAGINE IT GETTING THAT'S THE PART.

>> I CAN'T IMAGINE IT GETTING ANY WORSE THAN IT IS.

>> I CAN'T IMAGINE IT GETTING ANY WORSE THAN IT IS.

WE'RE DOWN TO 300 CASES LAST ANY WORSE THAN IT IS.

WE'RE DOWN TO 300 CASES LAST YEAR WITH THESE 26,000 WE'RE DOWN TO 300 CASES LAST YEAR WITH THESE 26,000 ALLEGATIONS.

YEAR WITH THESE 26,000 ALLEGATIONS.

TO ME, IT'S SO MUCH LIKE THE ALLEGATIONS.

TO ME, IT'S SO MUCH LIKE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, TRYING TO TO ME, IT'S SO MUCH LIKE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, TRYING TO POLICE WITHIN ITSELF, AND BEING CATHOLIC CHURCH, TRYING TO POLICE WITHIN ITSELF, AND BEING UNABLE TO DO SO BECAUSE OF JUST POLICE WITHIN ITSELF, AND BEING UNABLE TO DO SO BECAUSE OF JUST WHAT THE SENATOR OUTLINED IN UNABLE TO DO SO BECAUSE OF JUST WHAT THE SENATOR OUTLINED IN THAT INTERVIEW THAT THERE IS AN WHAT THE SENATOR OUTLINED IN THAT INTERVIEW THAT THERE IS AN INHERENT CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

THAT INTERVIEW THAT THERE IS AN INHERENT CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

THESE COMMANDERS DON'T WANT INHERENT CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

THESE COMMANDERS DON'T WANT TO -- YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT HURT THESE COMMANDERS DON'T WANT TO -- YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT HURT THEIR CAREER IF THEY HAVE THESE TO -- YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT HURT THEIR CAREER IF THEY HAVE THESE PROBLEMS WITHIN THEIR UNIT, SO THEIR CAREER IF THEY HAVE THESE PROBLEMS WITHIN THEIR UNIT, SO IT IS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST FOR PROBLEMS WITHIN THEIR UNIT, SO IT IS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST FOR THEM.

IT IS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST FOR THEM.

>> AND I HAVE BEEN MEANING TO THEM.

>> AND I HAVE BEEN MEANING TO SAY WELCOME BACK TO YOU, MEGAN, >> AND I HAVE BEEN MEANING TO SAY WELCOME BACK TO YOU, MEGAN, AS A REGULAR.

SAY WELCOME BACK TO YOU, MEGAN, AS A REGULAR.

WE MISSED YOU THE FOUR YEARS YOU AS A REGULAR.

WE MISSED YOU THE FOUR YEARS YOU WERE IN SWITZERLAND.

WE MISSED YOU THE FOUR YEARS YOU WERE IN SWITZERLAND.

>> IT IS SO GOOD TO BE HERE.

WERE IN SWITZERLAND.

>> IT IS SO GOOD TO BE HERE.

THANK YOU.

>> IT IS SO GOOD TO BE HERE.

THANK YOU.

>> I AGREE.

THANK YOU.

>> I AGREE.

WHATEVER SETTLES, AT LEAST THE >> I AGREE.

WHATEVER SETTLES, AT LEAST THE SENATOR OPENED UP THE WHATEVER SETTLES, AT LEAST THE SENATOR OPENED UP THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS SYSTEM SENATOR OPENED UP THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS SYSTEM HAS NOT WORKED.

CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS SYSTEM HAS NOT WORKED.

I REMEMBER MEETING WITH THE LATE HAS NOT WORKED.

I REMEMBER MEETING WITH THE LATE CONGRESSWOMAN FOWLER WHEN SHE I REMEMBER MEETING WITH THE LATE CONGRESSWOMAN FOWLER WHEN SHE WAS INVESTIGATING.

CONGRESSWOMAN FOWLER WHEN SHE WAS INVESTIGATING.

SHE WAS COMMISSIONED BY THE WAS INVESTIGATING.

SHE WAS COMMISSIONED BY THE MILITARY TO INVESTIGATE ALL THE SHE WAS COMMISSIONED BY THE MILITARY TO INVESTIGATE ALL THE RAPE CASES THAT WENT ON AT THE MILITARY TO INVESTIGATE ALL THE RAPE CASES THAT WENT ON AT THE AIR FORCE ACADEMY AND WHAT RAPE CASES THAT WENT ON AT THE AIR FORCE ACADEMY AND WHAT HAPPENED.

AIR FORCE ACADEMY AND WHAT HAPPENED.

>> IN 2003.

HAPPENED.

>> IN 2003.

>> 2003, AND SHE CAME UP WITH A >> IN 2003.

>> 2003, AND SHE CAME UP WITH A LONG LIST OF RECOMMENDATIONS, >> 2003, AND SHE CAME UP WITH A LONG LIST OF RECOMMENDATIONS, WHICH UNFORTUNATELY, REALLY HAVE LONG LIST OF RECOMMENDATIONS, WHICH UNFORTUNATELY, REALLY HAVE NOT -- WHICH UNFORTUNATELY, REALLY HAVE NOT -- >> I DO THINK WE NEED A SEPARATE NOT -- >> I DO THINK WE NEED A SEPARATE FORUM, WHETHER WITHIN THE >> I DO THINK WE NEED A SEPARATE FORUM, WHETHER WITHIN THE STRUCTURE, BUT I THINK THE FORUM, WHETHER WITHIN THE STRUCTURE, BUT I THINK THE CONVERSATION AND THE BIPARTISAN STRUCTURE, BUT I THINK THE CONVERSATION AND THE BIPARTISAN SUPPORT WE'RE GETTING HOPEFULLY CONVERSATION AND THE BIPARTISAN SUPPORT WE'RE GETTING HOPEFULLY WILL ADDRESS THE ISSUE.

SUPPORT WE'RE GETTING HOPEFULLY WILL ADDRESS THE ISSUE.

>> IT IS ENCOURAGING TO SEE WE WILL ADDRESS THE ISSUE.

>> IT IS ENCOURAGING TO SEE WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE WHO SIGNED ON >> IT IS ENCOURAGING TO SEE WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE WHO SIGNED ON TO CO-SPONSOR THIS BILL.

HAVE MORE PEOPLE WHO SIGNED ON TO CO-SPONSOR THIS BILL.

I THINK THE PROSPECTS ARE VERY TO CO-SPONSOR THIS BILL.

I THINK THE PROSPECTS ARE VERY GOOD.

I THINK THE PROSPECTS ARE VERY GOOD.

SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE SAYING WELL, GOOD.

SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE SAYING WELL, SOME PEOPLE ARE DOING THIS SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE SAYING WELL, SOME PEOPLE ARE DOING THIS BECAUSE THEY HAVE PRESIDENTIAL SOME PEOPLE ARE DOING THIS BECAUSE THEY HAVE PRESIDENTIAL AMBITIONS, BUT WHATEVER THE BECAUSE THEY HAVE PRESIDENTIAL AMBITIONS, BUT WHATEVER THE AMBITIONS ARE, THE BOTTOM LINE AMBITIONS, BUT WHATEVER THE AMBITIONS ARE, THE BOTTOM LINE IS THESE WOMEN NEED TO BE AMBITIONS ARE, THE BOTTOM LINE IS THESE WOMEN NEED TO BE PROTECTED AND BOTH SIDES OF THE IS THESE WOMEN NEED TO BE PROTECTED AND BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE NEED TO COME TOGETHER TO PROTECTED AND BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE NEED TO COME TOGETHER TO SEE THAT HAPPENS.

AISLE NEED TO COME TOGETHER TO SEE THAT HAPPENS.

>> ALL ANYONE HAS TO DO IS SEE SEE THAT HAPPENS.

>> ALL ANYONE HAS TO DO IS SEE THE FILM, THE INVISIBLE WAR, AND >> ALL ANYONE HAS TO DO IS SEE THE FILM, THE INVISIBLE WAR, AND LISTEN TO THESE MOVING ACCOUNTS THE FILM, THE INVISIBLE WAR, AND LISTEN TO THESE MOVING ACCOUNTS OF THESE 18-YEAR-OLD GIRLS GO TO LISTEN TO THESE MOVING ACCOUNTS OF THESE 18-YEAR-OLD GIRLS GO TO SERVE THEIR COUNTRY, GET RAPED OF THESE 18-YEAR-OLD GIRLS GO TO SERVE THEIR COUNTRY, GET RAPED BY THE FIRST COMMANDER, PASSED SERVE THEIR COUNTRY, GET RAPED BY THE FIRST COMMANDER, PASSED AROUND TO OTHER PEOPLE, HAVE BY THE FIRST COMMANDER, PASSED AROUND TO OTHER PEOPLE, HAVE THEIR MINDS COMPLETELY AROUND TO OTHER PEOPLE, HAVE THEIR MINDS COMPLETELY DESTROYED, QUITE FRANKLY, THEIR MINDS COMPLETELY DESTROYED, QUITE FRANKLY, CONTINUE TO SERVE AND GET OUT DESTROYED, QUITE FRANKLY, CONTINUE TO SERVE AND GET OUT AND THEY'RE EMOTIONAL WRECKS CONTINUE TO SERVE AND GET OUT AND THEY'RE EMOTIONAL WRECKS AND, QUITE FRANKLY, IN ADDITION AND THEY'RE EMOTIONAL WRECKS AND, QUITE FRANKLY, IN ADDITION TO THAT, SENATOR GILLIBRAND TOLD AND, QUITE FRANKLY, IN ADDITION TO THAT, SENATOR GILLIBRAND TOLD ME THIS WEEK WHEN IGOR VIEWED TO THAT, SENATOR GILLIBRAND TOLD ME THIS WEEK WHEN IGOR VIEWED HER THAT WOMEN ARE ONLY LESS ME THIS WEEK WHEN IGOR VIEWED HER THAT WOMEN ARE ONLY LESS THAN HALF OF THE SEXUAL ASSAULTS HER THAT WOMEN ARE ONLY LESS THAN HALF OF THE SEXUAL ASSAULTS ARE WOMEN.

THAN HALF OF THE SEXUAL ASSAULTS ARE WOMEN.

MOST OF THEM ARE MEN, AND I ARE WOMEN.

MOST OF THEM ARE MEN, AND I ACTUALLY THINK IF THIS WERE MOST OF THEM ARE MEN, AND I ACTUALLY THINK IF THIS WERE BETTER KNOWN, THERE MIGHT BE ACTUALLY THINK IF THIS WERE BETTER KNOWN, THERE MIGHT BE MORE ACTION AGAINST SEXUAL BETTER KNOWN, THERE MIGHT BE MORE ACTION AGAINST SEXUAL ASSAULT IN THE MILITARY.

MORE ACTION AGAINST SEXUAL ASSAULT IN THE MILITARY.

>> WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT IS WHAT ASSAULT IN THE MILITARY.

>> WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT IS WHAT GILLIBRAND HAS BEEN DOING.

>> WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT IS WHAT GILLIBRAND HAS BEEN DOING.

SHE HAS BEEN GOING TO EACH OF GILLIBRAND HAS BEEN DOING.

SHE HAS BEEN GOING TO EACH OF THESE OFFICES WITH ONE OF THESE SHE HAS BEEN GOING TO EACH OF THESE OFFICES WITH ONE OF THESE VICTIMS, MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE THESE OFFICES WITH ONE OF THESE VICTIMS, MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE BEEN THROUGH THIS, AND I LOVE VICTIMS, MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE BEEN THROUGH THIS, AND I LOVE SEEING -- YOU KNOW, WE ALL BEEN THROUGH THIS, AND I LOVE SEEING -- YOU KNOW, WE ALL THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO SEE IT SEEING -- YOU KNOW, WE ALL THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO SEE IT ON THE IMMIGRATION BILL, SOME OF THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO SEE IT ON THE IMMIGRATION BILL, SOME OF US THOUGHT WE WOULD SEE IT ON ON THE IMMIGRATION BILL, SOME OF US THOUGHT WE WOULD SEE IT ON SOME BUDGET ISSUES, BUT IT IS ON US THOUGHT WE WOULD SEE IT ON SOME BUDGET ISSUES, BUT IT IS ON THIS AMENDMENT THAT WE ARE SOME BUDGET ISSUES, BUT IT IS ON THIS AMENDMENT THAT WE ARE FINALLY NOW SEEING REPUBLICANS THIS AMENDMENT THAT WE ARE FINALLY NOW SEEING REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS, MEN, WOMEN, FINALLY NOW SEEING REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS, MEN, WOMEN, PEOPLE FROM MANY DIFFERENT AND DEMOCRATS, MEN, WOMEN, PEOPLE FROM MANY DIFFERENT REGIONS COMING TOGETHER BECAUSE PEOPLE FROM MANY DIFFERENT REGIONS COMING TOGETHER BECAUSE OF THIS VISCERAL RESPONSE YOU REGIONS COMING TOGETHER BECAUSE OF THIS VISCERAL RESPONSE YOU CLEARLY HAD TO THIS MOVIE, THAT OF THIS VISCERAL RESPONSE YOU CLEARLY HAD TO THIS MOVIE, THAT THESE SENATORS ARE LISTENING TO CLEARLY HAD TO THIS MOVIE, THAT THESE SENATORS ARE LISTENING TO THEIR CONSTITUENTS WHO ARE OUT THESE SENATORS ARE LISTENING TO THEIR CONSTITUENTS WHO ARE OUT THERE SERVING OUR COUNTRY AND WE THEIR CONSTITUENTS WHO ARE OUT THERE SERVING OUR COUNTRY AND WE WANT TO HAVE THEIR BACK BECAUSE THERE SERVING OUR COUNTRY AND WE WANT TO HAVE THEIR BACK BECAUSE WE'RE AMERICANS AND I LOVE WANT TO HAVE THEIR BACK BECAUSE WE'RE AMERICANS AND I LOVE SEEING US ALL COME TOGETHER.

WE'RE AMERICANS AND I LOVE SEEING US ALL COME TOGETHER.

>> I THINK THAT THE WHOLE ISSUE SEEING US ALL COME TOGETHER.

>> I THINK THAT THE WHOLE ISSUE IN RELATION TO THE MEN IN THE >> I THINK THAT THE WHOLE ISSUE IN RELATION TO THE MEN IN THE MILITARY AND THE KIND OF IN RELATION TO THE MEN IN THE MILITARY AND THE KIND OF ASSAULTS, THEY'RE RELUCTANT TO MILITARY AND THE KIND OF ASSAULTS, THEY'RE RELUCTANT TO TELL, YOU KNOW, THEIR SUPERVISOR ASSAULTS, THEY'RE RELUCTANT TO TELL, YOU KNOW, THEIR SUPERVISOR TO TAKE IT UP THE RANK.

TELL, YOU KNOW, THEIR SUPERVISOR TO TAKE IT UP THE RANK.

SO AN INDEPENDENT, AT A MINIMUM, TO TAKE IT UP THE RANK.

SO AN INDEPENDENT, AT A MINIMUM, GETTING SOME SORT OF ADVICE OR SO AN INDEPENDENT, AT A MINIMUM, GETTING SOME SORT OF ADVICE OR COUNSELING, SOME SORT OF SUPPORT GETTING SOME SORT OF ADVICE OR COUNSELING, SOME SORT OF SUPPORT THAT WOULD BE ANONYMOUS, AND I COUNSELING, SOME SORT OF SUPPORT THAT WOULD BE ANONYMOUS, AND I THINK THAT WOULD CERTAINLY HELP THAT WOULD BE ANONYMOUS, AND I THINK THAT WOULD CERTAINLY HELP THE PROCESS AND BRING THIS OTHER THINK THAT WOULD CERTAINLY HELP THE PROCESS AND BRING THIS OTHER HALF OF IT OUT INTO THE PUBLIC.

THE PROCESS AND BRING THIS OTHER HALF OF IT OUT INTO THE PUBLIC.

>> BUT MAYBE TO YOUR POINT, HALF OF IT OUT INTO THE PUBLIC.

>> BUT MAYBE TO YOUR POINT, JENNIFER -- SO A GUY IS ATTACKED >> BUT MAYBE TO YOUR POINT, JENNIFER -- SO A GUY IS ATTACKED AND RAPED BY ANOTHER GUY IN THE JENNIFER -- SO A GUY IS ATTACKED AND RAPED BY ANOTHER GUY IN THE MILITARY.

AND RAPED BY ANOTHER GUY IN THE MILITARY.

HE DOESN'T GO TO HIS COMMANDER, MILITARY.

HE DOESN'T GO TO HIS COMMANDER, HE GOES TO THE OUTSIDE, THE HE DOESN'T GO TO HIS COMMANDER, HE GOES TO THE OUTSIDE, THE PROSECUTOR, AND, YET, HE'S STILL HE GOES TO THE OUTSIDE, THE PROSECUTOR, AND, YET, HE'S STILL EXPOSED BECAUSE HIS COMMANDER PROSECUTOR, AND, YET, HE'S STILL EXPOSED BECAUSE HIS COMMANDER DOESN'T KNOW THE PERSON WHO HAS EXPOSED BECAUSE HIS COMMANDER DOESN'T KNOW THE PERSON WHO HAS BEEN ASSAULTING HIM AND WHAT'S DOESN'T KNOW THE PERSON WHO HAS BEEN ASSAULTING HIM AND WHAT'S THE DOWN SIDE THERE?

BEEN ASSAULTING HIM AND WHAT'S THE DOWN SIDE THERE?

>> THE MILITARY JUSTICE SYSTEM THE DOWN SIDE THERE?

>> THE MILITARY JUSTICE SYSTEM IS VERY UNIQUE BUT IT'S MADE FOR >> THE MILITARY JUSTICE SYSTEM IS VERY UNIQUE BUT IT'S MADE FOR THE NEEDS OF THE MILITARY AND IS VERY UNIQUE BUT IT'S MADE FOR THE NEEDS OF THE MILITARY AND ITS DEPLOYMENTS AND IT'S ABOUT THE NEEDS OF THE MILITARY AND ITS DEPLOYMENTS AND IT'S ABOUT BRINGING SWIFT AND CLEAR JUSTICE ITS DEPLOYMENTS AND IT'S ABOUT BRINGING SWIFT AND CLEAR JUSTICE AND, BECAUSE OF THAT, THE JAG BRINGING SWIFT AND CLEAR JUSTICE AND, BECAUSE OF THAT, THE JAG CORPS IS ADEPT AT HANDLING THAT.

AND, BECAUSE OF THAT, THE JAG CORPS IS ADEPT AT HANDLING THAT.

THE TROUBLE IS THE JAG CORPS IS CORPS IS ADEPT AT HANDLING THAT.

THE TROUBLE IS THE JAG CORPS IS REDATED THROUGH THEIR REFINEMENT THE TROUBLE IS THE JAG CORPS IS REDATED THROUGH THEIR REFINEMENT SO MUCH THAT THEY NEVER REDATED THROUGH THEIR REFINEMENT SO MUCH THAT THEY NEVER DEVELOPED THAT PROSECUTORIAL SO MUCH THAT THEY NEVER DEVELOPED THAT PROSECUTORIAL EXPERTISE.

DEVELOPED THAT PROSECUTORIAL EXPERTISE.

SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE, THAT'S EXPERTISE.

SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE, THAT'S WHAT CONGRESS COULD DO IS SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE, THAT'S WHAT CONGRESS COULD DO IS REQUIRE JAG TO DEVELOP THAT KIND WHAT CONGRESS COULD DO IS REQUIRE JAG TO DEVELOP THAT KIND OF EXPERTISE, MAKE SURE THEY'RE REQUIRE JAG TO DEVELOP THAT KIND OF EXPERTISE, MAKE SURE THEY'RE CREATING CAREER TRACKS THAT OF EXPERTISE, MAKE SURE THEY'RE CREATING CAREER TRACKS THAT WOULD DROP THAT.

CREATING CAREER TRACKS THAT WOULD DROP THAT.

YOU COULD ALSO INSIST THAT THE WOULD DROP THAT.

YOU COULD ALSO INSIST THAT THE COMMAND STRUCTURES HAVE MORE YOU COULD ALSO INSIST THAT THE COMMAND STRUCTURES HAVE MORE TRANCE PARENTS WITH ABOUT THE COMMAND STRUCTURES HAVE MORE TRANCE PARENTS WITH ABOUT THE KINDS OF APPEALS THAT ARE GOING TRANCE PARENTS WITH ABOUT THE KINDS OF APPEALS THAT ARE GOING ON AND RAISING QUESTIONS RIGHT KINDS OF APPEALS THAT ARE GOING ON AND RAISING QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW.

ON AND RAISING QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW.

SO INSISTING ON THOSE THINGS, NOW.

SO INSISTING ON THOSE THINGS, THAT'S A BETTER APPROACH THAN SO INSISTING ON THOSE THINGS, THAT'S A BETTER APPROACH THAN TRYING TO TAKE THE PAGE OUT OF THAT'S A BETTER APPROACH THAN TRYING TO TAKE THE PAGE OUT OF THE MILITARY JUSTICE SYSTEM AND TRYING TO TAKE THE PAGE OUT OF THE MILITARY JUSTICE SYSTEM AND ASSIGN IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.

THE MILITARY JUSTICE SYSTEM AND ASSIGN IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.

THAT MAY NOT END UP SERVING WELL ASSIGN IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.

THAT MAY NOT END UP SERVING WELL THOSE WHO ARE IN NEED BECAUSE THAT MAY NOT END UP SERVING WELL THOSE WHO ARE IN NEED BECAUSE THEY HAVE TERRIBLE CRIMES.

THOSE WHO ARE IN NEED BECAUSE THEY HAVE TERRIBLE CRIMES.

>> A LOT OF PEOPLE POINTED OUT THEY HAVE TERRIBLE CRIMES.

>> A LOT OF PEOPLE POINTED OUT THAT OTHER MILITARY INSTITUTIONS >> A LOT OF PEOPLE POINTED OUT THAT OTHER MILITARY INSTITUTIONS AROUND THE WORLD HAVE THAT OTHER MILITARY INSTITUTIONS AROUND THE WORLD HAVE IMPLEMENTED EXACTLY WHAT THE AROUND THE WORLD HAVE IMPLEMENTED EXACTLY WHAT THE SENATOR IS PROPOSING TO IMPLEMENTED EXACTLY WHAT THE SENATOR IS PROPOSING TO IMPLEMENT HERE IN AMERICA AND SENATOR IS PROPOSING TO IMPLEMENT HERE IN AMERICA AND THAT IT SEEMS TO WORK WELL IMPLEMENT HERE IN AMERICA AND THAT IT SEEMS TO WORK WELL ELSEWHERE.

THAT IT SEEMS TO WORK WELL ELSEWHERE.

IF IT SEEMS TO WORK WELL IN ELSEWHERE.

IF IT SEEMS TO WORK WELL IN OTHER COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD IF IT SEEMS TO WORK WELL IN OTHER COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD THAT ARE FRIENDS OF OURS, OTHER COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD THAT ARE FRIENDS OF OURS, DOESN'T IT MAKE LOGICAL SENSE IT THAT ARE FRIENDS OF OURS, DOESN'T IT MAKE LOGICAL SENSE IT COULD WORK WELL HERE AS WELL?

DOESN'T IT MAKE LOGICAL SENSE IT COULD WORK WELL HERE AS WELL?

>> IN BRITAIN AND ISRAEL, BOTH COULD WORK WELL HERE AS WELL?

>> IN BRITAIN AND ISRAEL, BOTH OF WHICH HAVE VERY GOOD, VERY >> IN BRITAIN AND ISRAEL, BOTH OF WHICH HAVE VERY GOOD, VERY HIGH UP THERE, WELL-TRAINED OF WHICH HAVE VERY GOOD, VERY HIGH UP THERE, WELL-TRAINED MILITARIES.

HIGH UP THERE, WELL-TRAINED MILITARIES.

LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK.

MILITARIES.

LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK.

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FROM SEXUAL ASSAULT TO TRANCE GENDER CIVIL RIGHTS.

FROM SEXUAL ASSAULT TO TRANCE GENDER CIVIL RIGHTS.

AN HISTORIC WIN FOR TRANSGENDER GENDER CIVIL RIGHTS.

AN HISTORIC WIN FOR TRANSGENDER WORKERS AS TWO FEDERAL AGENCIES AN HISTORIC WIN FOR TRANSGENDER WORKERS AS TWO FEDERAL AGENCIES AGREE THEY HAVE JOB PROTECTION WORKERS AS TWO FEDERAL AGENCIES AGREE THEY HAVE JOB PROTECTION UNDER TITLE VII.

AGREE THEY HAVE JOB PROTECTION UNDER TITLE VII.

THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT RECENTLY UNDER TITLE VII.

THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT RECENTLY RULED IN FAVOR OF A TRANSGENDER THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT RECENTLY RULED IN FAVOR OF A TRANSGENDER WOMAN, MIA MACY.

RULED IN FAVOR OF A TRANSGENDER WOMAN, MIA MACY.

SHE HAD APPLIED TO WORK FOR A WOMAN, MIA MACY.

SHE HAD APPLIED TO WORK FOR A FEDERAL CONTRACTOR SUPPORTING SHE HAD APPLIED TO WORK FOR A FEDERAL CONTRACTOR SUPPORTING THE BUREAU OF ALCOHOL, TOBACCO, FEDERAL CONTRACTOR SUPPORTING THE BUREAU OF ALCOHOL, TOBACCO, FIREARMS AND EXPLOSIVES.

THE BUREAU OF ALCOHOL, TOBACCO, FIREARMS AND EXPLOSIVES.

AFTER BEING TOLD SHE'D GET A FIREARMS AND EXPLOSIVES.

AFTER BEING TOLD SHE'D GET A JOB, MACY WHO IDENTIFIED AS A AFTER BEING TOLD SHE'D GET A JOB, MACY WHO IDENTIFIED AS A MAN AT THE TIME, EXPLAINED HE'D JOB, MACY WHO IDENTIFIED AS A MAN AT THE TIME, EXPLAINED HE'D BE TRANSITIONING FROM MALE TO MAN AT THE TIME, EXPLAINED HE'D BE TRANSITIONING FROM MALE TO FEMALE.

BE TRANSITIONING FROM MALE TO FEMALE.

MACY WAS TOLD THE JOB WAS FEMALE.

MACY WAS TOLD THE JOB WAS ELIMINATED, BUT FOUND OUT IT WAS MACY WAS TOLD THE JOB WAS ELIMINATED, BUT FOUND OUT IT WAS OFFERED TO SOMEONE ELSE.

ELIMINATED, BUT FOUND OUT IT WAS OFFERED TO SOMEONE ELSE.

THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT AGREED OFFERED TO SOMEONE ELSE.

THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT AGREED THAT ATF VIOLATED MACY'S CIVIL THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT AGREED THAT ATF VIOLATED MACY'S CIVIL RIGHTS BY DISCRIMINATING AGAINST THAT ATF VIOLATED MACY'S CIVIL RIGHTS BY DISCRIMINATING AGAINST HER DUE TO HER TRANSGENDER RIGHTS BY DISCRIMINATING AGAINST HER DUE TO HER TRANSGENDER STATUS.

HER DUE TO HER TRANSGENDER STATUS.

THE "RULING" STEMS FROM A LEGAL STATUS.

THE "RULING" STEMS FROM A LEGAL DECISION LAST YEAR BY THE EEOC THE "RULING" STEMS FROM A LEGAL DECISION LAST YEAR BY THE EEOC , THE EQUAL EMPLOYMENT DECISION LAST YEAR BY THE EEOC , THE EQUAL EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY COMMISSION, , THE EQUAL EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY COMMISSION, FINDING THAT TRANSGENDER OPPORTUNITY COMMISSION, FINDING THAT TRANSGENDER DISCRIMINATION IS COVERED BY THE FINDING THAT TRANSGENDER DISCRIMINATION IS COVERED BY THE BAN ON SEX DISCRIMINATION IN DISCRIMINATION IS COVERED BY THE BAN ON SEX DISCRIMINATION IN TITLE VII OF THE 1964 CIVIL BAN ON SEX DISCRIMINATION IN TITLE VII OF THE 1964 CIVIL RIGHTS ACT.

TITLE VII OF THE 1964 CIVIL RIGHTS ACT.

SO, CARI, YOU CHAIRED THE EEOC.

RIGHTS ACT.

SO, CARI, YOU CHAIRED THE EEOC.

HOW HISTORIC IS THIS DECISION BY SO, CARI, YOU CHAIRED THE EEOC.

HOW HISTORIC IS THIS DECISION BY THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT FOLLOWING HOW HISTORIC IS THIS DECISION BY THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT FOLLOWING ON THE DECISION BY THE EEOC?

THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT FOLLOWING ON THE DECISION BY THE EEOC?

IS THIS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE ON THE DECISION BY THE EEOC?

IS THIS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE SEEN A FEDERAL AGENCY RECOGNIZE IS THIS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE SEEN A FEDERAL AGENCY RECOGNIZE THAT TRANSGENDER PEOPLE HAVE SEEN A FEDERAL AGENCY RECOGNIZE THAT TRANSGENDER PEOPLE HAVE RIGHTS TO -- IN EMPLOYMENT LAW?

THAT TRANSGENDER PEOPLE HAVE RIGHTS TO -- IN EMPLOYMENT LAW?

>> THIS IS QUITE HISTORIC, BUT RIGHTS TO -- IN EMPLOYMENT LAW?

>> THIS IS QUITE HISTORIC, BUT IT'S ALSO VERY CONSISTENT WITH >> THIS IS QUITE HISTORIC, BUT IT'S ALSO VERY CONSISTENT WITH THE DIRECTION THAT BOTH EEOC, IT'S ALSO VERY CONSISTENT WITH THE DIRECTION THAT BOTH EEOC, THE SUPREME COURT AND OTHER THE DIRECTION THAT BOTH EEOC, THE SUPREME COURT AND OTHER COURTS -- IN FACT FOUR COURTS THE SUPREME COURT AND OTHER COURTS -- IN FACT FOUR COURTS AROUND THE NATION HAVE RULED COURTS -- IN FACT FOUR COURTS AROUND THE NATION HAVE RULED THAT INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE TREATED AROUND THE NATION HAVE RULED THAT INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE TREATED UNFAVORABLY BECAUSE THEY'RE THAT INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE TREATED UNFAVORABLY BECAUSE THEY'RE TRANSGENDER CONSTITUTES SEX UNFAVORABLY BECAUSE THEY'RE TRANSGENDER CONSTITUTES SEX DISCRIMINATION, AND THIS CASE TRANSGENDER CONSTITUTES SEX DISCRIMINATION, AND THIS CASE WAS A NO BRAINER.

DISCRIMINATION, AND THIS CASE WAS A NO BRAINER.

THIS PERSON APPLIED, GOT WAS A NO BRAINER.

THIS PERSON APPLIED, GOT SELECTED, ONCE THE POSITION WAS THIS PERSON APPLIED, GOT SELECTED, ONCE THE POSITION WAS OFFERED SHE SAID, BY THE WAY, SELECTED, ONCE THE POSITION WAS OFFERED SHE SAID, BY THE WAY, I'M GOING THROUGH THIS OFFERED SHE SAID, BY THE WAY, I'M GOING THROUGH THIS TRANSITION AND, ALL OF A SUDDEN, I'M GOING THROUGH THIS TRANSITION AND, ALL OF A SUDDEN, THE POSITION WAS ELIMINATED.

TRANSITION AND, ALL OF A SUDDEN, THE POSITION WAS ELIMINATED.

SO, TO ME, THAT WAS VERY CLEAR, THE POSITION WAS ELIMINATED.

SO, TO ME, THAT WAS VERY CLEAR, IF YOU WERE TO GO TO THE SUPREME SO, TO ME, THAT WAS VERY CLEAR, IF YOU WERE TO GO TO THE SUPREME COURT, MY SENSE WOULD BE THE IF YOU WERE TO GO TO THE SUPREME COURT, MY SENSE WOULD BE THE LITMUS TEST WOULD BE ANY COURT, MY SENSE WOULD BE THE LITMUS TEST WOULD BE ANY UNFAVORABLE TREATMENT ON THE LITMUS TEST WOULD BE ANY UNFAVORABLE TREATMENT ON THE BASIS OF SEX.

UNFAVORABLE TREATMENT ON THE BASIS OF SEX.

SO IT WAS CLEAR THAT WOULD BE BASIS OF SEX.

SO IT WAS CLEAR THAT WOULD BE THE CASE.

SO IT WAS CLEAR THAT WOULD BE THE CASE.

HOWEVER, AS IT RELATES TO THE CASE.

HOWEVER, AS IT RELATES TO MARRIAGE AND OTHER THINGS, IT HOWEVER, AS IT RELATES TO MARRIAGE AND OTHER THINGS, IT WOULD NOT APPLY.

MARRIAGE AND OTHER THINGS, IT WOULD NOT APPLY.

IT WOULD EXCLUSIVELY APPLY UNDER WOULD NOT APPLY.

IT WOULD EXCLUSIVELY APPLY UNDER TITLE VII AS RELATES TO IT WOULD EXCLUSIVELY APPLY UNDER TITLE VII AS RELATES TO UNEMPLOYMENT.

TITLE VII AS RELATES TO UNEMPLOYMENT.

>> HOW LONG DO WE THINK THIS UNEMPLOYMENT.

>> HOW LONG DO WE THINK THIS WILL TAKE TO PERK LATE UP TO THE >> HOW LONG DO WE THINK THIS WILL TAKE TO PERK LATE UP TO THE SUPREME COURT WHICH, IN THE WILL TAKE TO PERK LATE UP TO THE SUPREME COURT WHICH, IN THE RECENT PAIR OF DECISIONS ON GAY SUPREME COURT WHICH, IN THE RECENT PAIR OF DECISIONS ON GAY MARRIAGE, THAT THE MARRIAGE RECENT PAIR OF DECISIONS ON GAY MARRIAGE, THAT THE MARRIAGE RIGHT DID NOT APPLY AND IT HAD MARRIAGE, THAT THE MARRIAGE RIGHT DID NOT APPLY AND IT HAD NOT BEEN DECIDED WHETHER ANY OF RIGHT DID NOT APPLY AND IT HAD NOT BEEN DECIDED WHETHER ANY OF THESE LIGHTS SHOULD APPLY TO NOT BEEN DECIDED WHETHER ANY OF THESE LIGHTS SHOULD APPLY TO LBGT WHO ARE GRATED AGAINST IN THESE LIGHTS SHOULD APPLY TO LBGT WHO ARE GRATED AGAINST IN EMPLOYMENT?

LBGT WHO ARE GRATED AGAINST IN EMPLOYMENT?

>> AN EMPLOYER WOULD WANT TO EMPLOYMENT?

>> AN EMPLOYER WOULD WANT TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT HOW A >> AN EMPLOYER WOULD WANT TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT HOW A CROSS-DRESSING MAN OR A WOMAN TAKE INTO ACCOUNT HOW A CROSS-DRESSING MAN OR A WOMAN WHO THINKS HE'S TRAPPED IN A CROSS-DRESSING MAN OR A WOMAN WHO THINKS HE'S TRAPPED IN A WOMAN'S BODY USING THE WOMAN'S WHO THINKS HE'S TRAPPED IN A WOMAN'S BODY USING THE WOMAN'S REST ROOM WOULD AFFECT THE WOMAN'S BODY USING THE WOMAN'S REST ROOM WOULD AFFECT THE MORALE OF HIS EMPLOYEES.

REST ROOM WOULD AFFECT THE MORALE OF HIS EMPLOYEES.

A CONSCIENTIOUS EMPLOYER WOULD MORALE OF HIS EMPLOYEES.

A CONSCIENTIOUS EMPLOYER WOULD WANT TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT HOW IT A CONSCIENTIOUS EMPLOYER WOULD WANT TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT HOW IT WOULD EFFECT THE ROLE MODEL OF WANT TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT HOW IT WOULD EFFECT THE ROLE MODEL OF CHILDREN.

WOULD EFFECT THE ROLE MODEL OF CHILDREN.

THESE ARE SERIOUS THINGS THEY CHILDREN.

THESE ARE SERIOUS THINGS THEY WOULD WANT TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THESE ARE SERIOUS THINGS THEY WOULD WANT TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WOULD WANT TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT GET IN THE WAY OF AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT GET IN THE WAY OF THESE DECISIONS.

SHOULD NOT GET IN THE WAY OF THESE DECISIONS.

>> SO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THESE DECISIONS.

>> SO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT GET IN THE WAY OF >> SO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT GET IN THE WAY OF THESE DISCRIMINATIONS.

SHOULD NOT GET IN THE WAY OF THESE DISCRIMINATIONS.

THIS IS A TRANSGENDER FEMALE THESE DISCRIMINATIONS.

THIS IS A TRANSGENDER FEMALE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

THIS IS A TRANSGENDER FEMALE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

IT'S NOT FAIR TO CHARACTERIZE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

IT'S NOT FAIR TO CHARACTERIZE HER AS A MAN IN WOMAN'S IT'S NOT FAIR TO CHARACTERIZE HER AS A MAN IN WOMAN'S CLOTHING.

HER AS A MAN IN WOMAN'S CLOTHING.

THIS IS A WOMAN, SHE IS LIVING CLOTHING.

THIS IS A WOMAN, SHE IS LIVING LIFE AS A WOMAN AND, IN FACT, THIS IS A WOMAN, SHE IS LIVING LIFE AS A WOMAN AND, IN FACT, THE JOB DIDN'T DISAPPEAR AS THEY LIFE AS A WOMAN AND, IN FACT, THE JOB DIDN'T DISAPPEAR AS THEY TOLD HER, THEY JUST HIRED THE JOB DIDN'T DISAPPEAR AS THEY TOLD HER, THEY JUST HIRED SOMEONE ELSE TO DO IT, AND WHEN TOLD HER, THEY JUST HIRED SOMEONE ELSE TO DO IT, AND WHEN THAT WAS DISCLOSED TO HER, SHE SOMEONE ELSE TO DO IT, AND WHEN THAT WAS DISCLOSED TO HER, SHE FILED SUIT AND RIGHTFULLY WON THAT WAS DISCLOSED TO HER, SHE FILED SUIT AND RIGHTFULLY WON AND THANKFULLY THE ATF WILL HAVE FILED SUIT AND RIGHTFULLY WON AND THANKFULLY THE ATF WILL HAVE TO PAY HER BACK PAY, INTEREST AND THANKFULLY THE ATF WILL HAVE TO PAY HER BACK PAY, INTEREST AND ALL OF THESE OTHER DAMAGES.

TO PAY HER BACK PAY, INTEREST AND ALL OF THESE OTHER DAMAGES.

SO I THINK THEY ARE SETTING A AND ALL OF THESE OTHER DAMAGES.

SO I THINK THEY ARE SETTING A STERN AND STRONG TONE THAT SO I THINK THEY ARE SETTING A STERN AND STRONG TONE THAT DISCRIMINATION IN ANY FLAVOR, BE STERN AND STRONG TONE THAT DISCRIMINATION IN ANY FLAVOR, BE IT BY RACE, GENDER, BE IT DISCRIMINATION IN ANY FLAVOR, BE IT BY RACE, GENDER, BE IT AGAINST LGBQT COMMUNITY, IS NOT IT BY RACE, GENDER, BE IT AGAINST LGBQT COMMUNITY, IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.

AGAINST LGBQT COMMUNITY, IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.

>> THIS AFFECTS BUSINESS IN ACCEPTABLE.

>> THIS AFFECTS BUSINESS IN GENERAL AND THE WORKPLACE.

>> THIS AFFECTS BUSINESS IN GENERAL AND THE WORKPLACE.

OUR FAMILY BUSINESS HAD A GREAT GENERAL AND THE WORKPLACE.

OUR FAMILY BUSINESS HAD A GREAT MECHANIC WHO WENT THROUGH A OUR FAMILY BUSINESS HAD A GREAT MECHANIC WHO WENT THROUGH A GENDER CHANGE ON THE JOB AND, MECHANIC WHO WENT THROUGH A GENDER CHANGE ON THE JOB AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAD SOME OF THOSE GENDER CHANGE ON THE JOB AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAD SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS -- WHAT IS THIS GOING YOU KNOW, WE HAD SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS -- WHAT IS THIS GOING TO DO TO THE WORKPLACE, HOW WILL CONCERNS -- WHAT IS THIS GOING TO DO TO THE WORKPLACE, HOW WILL OUR WORKFORCE ACCEPT THIS -- AND TO DO TO THE WORKPLACE, HOW WILL OUR WORKFORCE ACCEPT THIS -- AND WE WERE VERY HAPPY TO SEE THAT OUR WORKFORCE ACCEPT THIS -- AND WE WERE VERY HAPPY TO SEE THAT THIS WOMAN WHO WE HIRED WHO WENT WE WERE VERY HAPPY TO SEE THAT THIS WOMAN WHO WE HIRED WHO WENT THROUGH THE TRANSITION AND THIS WOMAN WHO WE HIRED WHO WENT THROUGH THE TRANSITION AND BECAME A MAN GOT SO MUCH SUPPORT THROUGH THE TRANSITION AND BECAME A MAN GOT SO MUCH SUPPORT FROM PEOPLE WHO KNEW HER WELL BECAME A MAN GOT SO MUCH SUPPORT FROM PEOPLE WHO KNEW HER WELL AND RESPECTED HER ABILITY TO DO FROM PEOPLE WHO KNEW HER WELL AND RESPECTED HER ABILITY TO DO THE JOB.

AND RESPECTED HER ABILITY TO DO THE JOB.

I WAS ALWAYS SO HAPPY WE HAD A THE JOB.

I WAS ALWAYS SO HAPPY WE HAD A WOMAN MECHANIC.

I WAS ALWAYS SO HAPPY WE HAD A WOMAN MECHANIC.

[ LAUGHTER ] WOMAN MECHANIC.

[ LAUGHTER ] BUT, YOU KNOW, IT REALLY MADE US [ LAUGHTER ] BUT, YOU KNOW, IT REALLY MADE US FEEL GOOD ABOUT THE CULTURE WE BUT, YOU KNOW, IT REALLY MADE US FEEL GOOD ABOUT THE CULTURE WE HAD CREATED IN THE BUSINESS FEEL GOOD ABOUT THE CULTURE WE HAD CREATED IN THE BUSINESS BECAUSE IT WENT VERY WELL.

HAD CREATED IN THE BUSINESS BECAUSE IT WENT VERY WELL.

>> THERE ARE CLEARLY BECAUSE IT WENT VERY WELL.

>> THERE ARE CLEARLY SENSITIVITIES AROUND THE ISSUES, >> THERE ARE CLEARLY SENSITIVITIES AROUND THE ISSUES, AND I'VE SEEN IT.

SENSITIVITIES AROUND THE ISSUES, AND I'VE SEEN IT.

I THINK IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, AND I'VE SEEN IT.

I THINK IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, WHICH WILL NOW HAVE TO FOLLOW I THINK IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, WHICH WILL NOW HAVE TO FOLLOW THE EEOC DECISION.

WHICH WILL NOW HAVE TO FOLLOW THE EEOC DECISION.

>> RECENTLY, THERE WAS A SCHOOL THE EEOC DECISION.

>> RECENTLY, THERE WAS A SCHOOL CASE.

>> RECENTLY, THERE WAS A SCHOOL CASE.

SO THERE ARE SPECIAL CASE.

SO THERE ARE SPECIAL SENSITIVITIES THERE.

SO THERE ARE SPECIAL SENSITIVITIES THERE.

WHAT DO YOU -- I MEAN, WHAT ARE SENSITIVITIES THERE.

WHAT DO YOU -- I MEAN, WHAT ARE LITTLE KIDS SUPPOSED TO DO?

WHAT DO YOU -- I MEAN, WHAT ARE LITTLE KIDS SUPPOSED TO DO?

>> WELL, THAT'S RIGHT.

LITTLE KIDS SUPPOSED TO DO?

>> WELL, THAT'S RIGHT.

AND I DO THINK THERE ARE >> WELL, THAT'S RIGHT.

AND I DO THINK THERE ARE SENSITIVITIES AND I DO THINK WE AND I DO THINK THERE ARE SENSITIVITIES AND I DO THINK WE HAVE TO TAP INTO THE SUPPORTIVE SENSITIVITIES AND I DO THINK WE HAVE TO TAP INTO THE SUPPORTIVE AS WELL AS THE CREATIVE HAVE TO TAP INTO THE SUPPORTIVE AS WELL AS THE CREATIVE APPROACH.

AS WELL AS THE CREATIVE APPROACH.

A LOT OF EMPLOYERS PROVIDED SOME APPROACH.

A LOT OF EMPLOYERS PROVIDED SOME ACCOMMODATIONS WHILE THE A LOT OF EMPLOYERS PROVIDED SOME ACCOMMODATIONS WHILE THE TRANSITIONING IS TAKING PLACE ACCOMMODATIONS WHILE THE TRANSITIONING IS TAKING PLACE BECAUSE YOU DON'T QUITE LOOK TRANSITIONING IS TAKING PLACE BECAUSE YOU DON'T QUITE LOOK LIKE A WOMAN OR MAN SO THERE IS BECAUSE YOU DON'T QUITE LOOK LIKE A WOMAN OR MAN SO THERE IS A LOT OF GENDER CONFUSION AMONG LIKE A WOMAN OR MAN SO THERE IS A LOT OF GENDER CONFUSION AMONG THOSE NOT GOING THROUGH THE A LOT OF GENDER CONFUSION AMONG THOSE NOT GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS, SO I THINK THERE HAS TO THOSE NOT GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS, SO I THINK THERE HAS TO BE SOME SORT OF SENSITIVE PROCESS, SO I THINK THERE HAS TO BE SOME SORT OF SENSITIVE ACCOMMODATION OF THOSE THINGS, BE SOME SORT OF SENSITIVE ACCOMMODATION OF THOSE THINGS, BUT IT'S CLEAR TO ME THAT, YOU ACCOMMODATION OF THOSE THINGS, BUT IT'S CLEAR TO ME THAT, YOU KNOW, AS IT RELATES TO THE BUT IT'S CLEAR TO ME THAT, YOU KNOW, AS IT RELATES TO THE DIRECTION -- AND WE'VE JUST HAD KNOW, AS IT RELATES TO THE DIRECTION -- AND WE'VE JUST HAD THAT ANDERSON COOPER STORY ABOUT DIRECTION -- AND WE'VE JUST HAD THAT ANDERSON COOPER STORY ABOUT CHRISTOPHER, WHO WAS IN THAT ANDERSON COOPER STORY ABOUT CHRISTOPHER, WHO WAS IN AFGHANISTAN, GOING TO CHRISTINE, CHRISTOPHER, WHO WAS IN AFGHANISTAN, GOING TO CHRISTINE, AND, STILL, THE SENSITIVITIES AFGHANISTAN, GOING TO CHRISTINE, AND, STILL, THE SENSITIVITIES AROUND THAT.

AND, STILL, THE SENSITIVITIES AROUND THAT.

SO THOSE HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED.

AROUND THAT.

SO THOSE HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED.

>> LET ME ASK QUICKLY, THE FOUR SO THOSE HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED.

>> LET ME ASK QUICKLY, THE FOUR CASES IN THE CIRCUITS, WERE THEY >> LET ME ASK QUICKLY, THE FOUR CASES IN THE CIRCUITS, WERE THEY ALL SUPPORTIVE -- CASES IN THE CIRCUITS, WERE THEY ALL SUPPORTIVE -- >> YES.

ALL SUPPORTIVE -- >> YES.

>> -- THEY WERE ALL IN FAVOR OF >> YES.

>> -- THEY WERE ALL IN FAVOR OF NO DISCRIMINATION?

>> -- THEY WERE ALL IN FAVOR OF NO DISCRIMINATION?

>> THEY FOUND THAT ANY KIND OF NO DISCRIMINATION?

>> THEY FOUND THAT ANY KIND OF TREATMENT BASED -- UNFAVORABLE >> THEY FOUND THAT ANY KIND OF TREATMENT BASED -- UNFAVORABLE TREATMENT BASED ON SEX TREATMENT BASED -- UNFAVORABLE TREATMENT BASED ON SEX CONSTITUTED SEX DISCRIMINATION TREATMENT BASED ON SEX CONSTITUTED SEX DISCRIMINATION UNDER TITLE VII.

CONSTITUTED SEX DISCRIMINATION UNDER TITLE VII.

>> SO IF WE MOVE FURTHER TOWARDS UNDER TITLE VII.

>> SO IF WE MOVE FURTHER TOWARDS THIS COERCING BUSINESSES TO >> SO IF WE MOVE FURTHER TOWARDS THIS COERCING BUSINESSES TO DISREGARD TRANSGENDER ISSUES, THIS COERCING BUSINESSES TO DISREGARD TRANSGENDER ISSUES, WHAT WE'RE SAYING -- CAN WE NOT DISREGARD TRANSGENDER ISSUES, WHAT WE'RE SAYING -- CAN WE NOT SAY THE TRUTH ANYMORE, THAT SEX WHAT WE'RE SAYING -- CAN WE NOT SAY THE TRUTH ANYMORE, THAT SEX IS A BIOLOGICAL REALITY AND THAT SAY THE TRUTH ANYMORE, THAT SEX IS A BIOLOGICAL REALITY AND THAT PEOPLE CAN OBSERVE THAT IN THE IS A BIOLOGICAL REALITY AND THAT PEOPLE CAN OBSERVE THAT IN THE WAY THAT THEY BUILD A WORKPLACE?

PEOPLE CAN OBSERVE THAT IN THE WAY THAT THEY BUILD A WORKPLACE?

THAT'S APPROPRIATE.

WAY THAT THEY BUILD A WORKPLACE?

THAT'S APPROPRIATE.

PAUL McCUE WAS, FOR A QUARTER THAT'S APPROPRIATE.

PAUL McCUE WAS, FOR A QUARTER CENTURY, THE CHIEF PSYCHIATRIST PAUL McCUE WAS, FOR A QUARTER CENTURY, THE CHIEF PSYCHIATRIST AT JOHNS HOPKINS.

CENTURY, THE CHIEF PSYCHIATRIST AT JOHNS HOPKINS.

THEY ACTUALLY STOPPED DOING SEX AT JOHNS HOPKINS.

THEY ACTUALLY STOPPED DOING SEX CHANGE OPERATIONS AT JOHNS THEY ACTUALLY STOPPED DOING SEX CHANGE OPERATIONS AT JOHNS HOPKINS DURING HIS TENURE CHANGE OPERATIONS AT JOHNS HOPKINS DURING HIS TENURE BECAUSE THEY FOUND ALL THE HOPKINS DURING HIS TENURE BECAUSE THEY FOUND ALL THE PROBLEMS THE MAN HAD WHO CHANGED BECAUSE THEY FOUND ALL THE PROBLEMS THE MAN HAD WHO CHANGED TO A WOMAN PSYCHOLOGICALLY PROBLEMS THE MAN HAD WHO CHANGED TO A WOMAN PSYCHOLOGICALLY PROVED TO GET NO BETTER AFTER TO A WOMAN PSYCHOLOGICALLY PROVED TO GET NO BETTER AFTER THE OPERATION SO THEY STOPPED PROVED TO GET NO BETTER AFTER THE OPERATION SO THEY STOPPED THE OPERATIONS AND TOOK MORE THE OPERATION SO THEY STOPPED THE OPERATIONS AND TOOK MORE CARE TO DEAL WITH THE MENTAL THE OPERATIONS AND TOOK MORE CARE TO DEAL WITH THE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES.

CARE TO DEAL WITH THE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES.

SO LET'S THINK ABOUT WHO WE HEALTH ISSUES.

SO LET'S THINK ABOUT WHO WE SERVE BEHIND THIS.

SO LET'S THINK ABOUT WHO WE SERVE BEHIND THIS.

>>> BEHIND THE HEADLINES: WOMEN SERVE BEHIND THIS.

>>> BEHIND THE HEADLINES: WOMEN OWNED BUSINESSES.

>>> BEHIND THE HEADLINES: WOMEN OWNED BUSINESSES.

THE TERM "CERTIFICATION" IS OWNED BUSINESSES.

THE TERM "CERTIFICATION" IS ENOUGH TO PUT ANYONE TO SLEEP.

THE TERM "CERTIFICATION" IS ENOUGH TO PUT ANYONE TO SLEEP.

BUT IT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO ENOUGH TO PUT ANYONE TO SLEEP.

BUT IT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO HELP WOMEN-OWNED BUSINESSES GROW BUT IT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO HELP WOMEN-OWNED BUSINESSES GROW AND HERE'S WHY: HELP WOMEN-OWNED BUSINESSES GROW AND HERE'S WHY: TWO SMALL WOMEN-OWNED FIRMS WERE AND HERE'S WHY: TWO SMALL WOMEN-OWNED FIRMS WERE LOOKING TO EXPAND - ONE IN TWO SMALL WOMEN-OWNED FIRMS WERE LOOKING TO EXPAND - ONE IN CONSTRUCTION AND ONE IN ROBOTICS LOOKING TO EXPAND - ONE IN CONSTRUCTION AND ONE IN ROBOTICS PRODUCTION.

CONSTRUCTION AND ONE IN ROBOTICS PRODUCTION.

BUT IN ORDER TO LAND CONTRACTS PRODUCTION.

BUT IN ORDER TO LAND CONTRACTS WITH LARGER COMPANIES AND THE BUT IN ORDER TO LAND CONTRACTS WITH LARGER COMPANIES AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THEY HAD TO WITH LARGER COMPANIES AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THEY HAD TO BE CERTIFIED.

FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THEY HAD TO BE CERTIFIED.

THAT'S WHERE THE WOMEN'S BE CERTIFIED.

THAT'S WHERE THE WOMEN'S BUSINESS ENTERPRISE NATIONAL THAT'S WHERE THE WOMEN'S BUSINESS ENTERPRISE NATIONAL COUNCIL COMES IN.

BUSINESS ENTERPRISE NATIONAL COUNCIL COMES IN.

THE COUNCIL, REFERRED TO AS COUNCIL COMES IN.

THE COUNCIL, REFERRED TO AS WBENC, IS THE GOVERNING BODY THE COUNCIL, REFERRED TO AS WBENC, IS THE GOVERNING BODY THAT CERTIFIES A BUSINESS AS WBENC, IS THE GOVERNING BODY THAT CERTIFIES A BUSINESS AS TRULY WOMAN-OWNED.

THAT CERTIFIES A BUSINESS AS TRULY WOMAN-OWNED.

>> WE CERTIFY FOR BOTH THE TRULY WOMAN-OWNED.

>> WE CERTIFY FOR BOTH THE CORPORATE MARKET PLACE, AS WELL >> WE CERTIFY FOR BOTH THE CORPORATE MARKET PLACE, AS WELL AS FOR THE GOVERNMENT MARKET CORPORATE MARKET PLACE, AS WELL AS FOR THE GOVERNMENT MARKET PLACE, AND WE ALSO PROVIDE AS FOR THE GOVERNMENT MARKET PLACE, AND WE ALSO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THOSE PARTIES PLACE, AND WE ALSO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THOSE PARTIES TO COME TOGETHER IN WHICH TO DO OPPORTUNITIES FOR THOSE PARTIES TO COME TOGETHER IN WHICH TO DO BUSINESS.

TO COME TOGETHER IN WHICH TO DO BUSINESS.

WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING TO DO IS BUSINESS.

WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING TO DO IS TO INTEGRATE WOMEN OWNED WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING TO DO IS TO INTEGRATE WOMEN OWNED BUSINESSES INTO THEIR SUPPLY TO INTEGRATE WOMEN OWNED BUSINESSES INTO THEIR SUPPLY CHAINS, AND SO THEY'RE LOOKING BUSINESSES INTO THEIR SUPPLY CHAINS, AND SO THEY'RE LOOKING TO ENSURE THAT THOSE ARE IN FACT CHAINS, AND SO THEY'RE LOOKING TO ENSURE THAT THOSE ARE IN FACT WOMEN OWNED, OPERATED, AND TO ENSURE THAT THOSE ARE IN FACT WOMEN OWNED, OPERATED, AND CONTROLLED BUSINESSES.

WOMEN OWNED, OPERATED, AND CONTROLLED BUSINESSES.

>> BUT NEITHER THE GOVERNMENT CONTROLLED BUSINESSES.

>> BUT NEITHER THE GOVERNMENT NOR PRIVATE INDUSTRY HAS DONE A >> BUT NEITHER THE GOVERNMENT NOR PRIVATE INDUSTRY HAS DONE A GREAT JOB.

NOR PRIVATE INDUSTRY HAS DONE A GREAT JOB.

IN 1994, FORMER PRESIDENT GREAT JOB.

IN 1994, FORMER PRESIDENT CLINTON SET A GOAL THAT 5% OF IN 1994, FORMER PRESIDENT CLINTON SET A GOAL THAT 5% OF LUCRATIVE GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS CLINTON SET A GOAL THAT 5% OF LUCRATIVE GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS SHOULD GO TO WOMEN OWNED LUCRATIVE GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS SHOULD GO TO WOMEN OWNED BUSINESSES.

SHOULD GO TO WOMEN OWNED BUSINESSES.

ALMOST TWO DECADES LATER, THAT BUSINESSES.

ALMOST TWO DECADES LATER, THAT FIGURE IS AT A MERE 4 PERCENT.

ALMOST TWO DECADES LATER, THAT FIGURE IS AT A MERE 4 PERCENT.

WBENC NOT ONLY CERTIFIES THESE FIGURE IS AT A MERE 4 PERCENT.

WBENC NOT ONLY CERTIFIES THESE COMPANIES, IT TEACHES WBENC NOT ONLY CERTIFIES THESE COMPANIES, IT TEACHES UP-AND-COMING WOMEN BUSINESS COMPANIES, IT TEACHES UP-AND-COMING WOMEN BUSINESS OWNERS TO BECOME BIGGER PLAYERS UP-AND-COMING WOMEN BUSINESS OWNERS TO BECOME BIGGER PLAYERS IN NON-TRADITIONAL FIELDS: OWNERS TO BECOME BIGGER PLAYERS IN NON-TRADITIONAL FIELDS: >> IT'S HARD TO PLAN OUT YOUR IN NON-TRADITIONAL FIELDS: >> IT'S HARD TO PLAN OUT YOUR PRODUCTS, PLAN OUT HOW TO SELL >> IT'S HARD TO PLAN OUT YOUR PRODUCTS, PLAN OUT HOW TO SELL TO WOMEN IF YOU DON'T INVOLVE PRODUCTS, PLAN OUT HOW TO SELL TO WOMEN IF YOU DON'T INVOLVE THEM IN THE PROCESS.

TO WOMEN IF YOU DON'T INVOLVE THEM IN THE PROCESS.

>> NINE YEARS AGO, LILLY THEM IN THE PROCESS.

>> NINE YEARS AGO, LILLY SSARIKAS HAD A WORKFORCE OF TWO >> NINE YEARS AGO, LILLY SSARIKAS HAD A WORKFORCE OF TWO AND WANTED MORE CORPORATE SSARIKAS HAD A WORKFORCE OF TWO AND WANTED MORE CORPORATE CONTACTS.

AND WANTED MORE CORPORATE CONTACTS.

TODAY, SHE RUNS TWO PLANTS THAT CONTACTS.

TODAY, SHE RUNS TWO PLANTS THAT USE ROBOTS TO PACKAGE CONSUMER TODAY, SHE RUNS TWO PLANTS THAT USE ROBOTS TO PACKAGE CONSUMER GOODS FOR CORPORATE GIANTS SUCH USE ROBOTS TO PACKAGE CONSUMER GOODS FOR CORPORATE GIANTS SUCH AS COCA COLA-WHICH, IN FACT, GOODS FOR CORPORATE GIANTS SUCH AS COCA COLA-WHICH, IN FACT, SUGGESTED SHE HAVE THE BUSINESS AS COCA COLA-WHICH, IN FACT, SUGGESTED SHE HAVE THE BUSINESS CERTIFIED BY WBENC.

SUGGESTED SHE HAVE THE BUSINESS CERTIFIED BY WBENC.

>> THE BIGGEST ADVANTAGE WBENC CERTIFIED BY WBENC.

>> THE BIGGEST ADVANTAGE WBENC GIVES US IS MARKETPLACE ACCESS.

>> THE BIGGEST ADVANTAGE WBENC GIVES US IS MARKETPLACE ACCESS.

WHEN THEY PUT ON THEIR EVENTS GIVES US IS MARKETPLACE ACCESS.

WHEN THEY PUT ON THEIR EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, AND THEY'RE WHEN THEY PUT ON THEIR EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, AND THEY'RE TEAMING US TOGETHER WITH FOUR TO THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, AND THEY'RE TEAMING US TOGETHER WITH FOUR TO FIVE HUNDRED COMPANIES, THEY'RE TEAMING US TOGETHER WITH FOUR TO FIVE HUNDRED COMPANIES, THEY'RE AFFORDING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO FIVE HUNDRED COMPANIES, THEY'RE AFFORDING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH PROCUREMENT PEOPLE AND AFFORDING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH PROCUREMENT PEOPLE AND DECISION MAKERS WHO ARE ACTUALLY MEET WITH PROCUREMENT PEOPLE AND DECISION MAKERS WHO ARE ACTUALLY IN A POSITION TO HIRE US.

DECISION MAKERS WHO ARE ACTUALLY IN A POSITION TO HIRE US.

>> TWO SISTERS, CIDALIA LUIS IN A POSITION TO HIRE US.

>> TWO SISTERS, CIDALIA LUIS AKBAR AND NATALIA LUIS NEEDED >> TWO SISTERS, CIDALIA LUIS AKBAR AND NATALIA LUIS NEEDED HELP GROWING THEIR FAMILY-OWNED AKBAR AND NATALIA LUIS NEEDED HELP GROWING THEIR FAMILY-OWNED BUSINESS: HELP GROWING THEIR FAMILY-OWNED BUSINESS: >> BY BEING A CERTIFIED BUSINESS: >> BY BEING A CERTIFIED BUSINESS, YOU KNOW THAT YOU ARE >> BY BEING A CERTIFIED BUSINESS, YOU KNOW THAT YOU ARE IN A GROUP OF BUSINESS OWNERS BUSINESS, YOU KNOW THAT YOU ARE IN A GROUP OF BUSINESS OWNERS AND IN A GROUP OF BUSINESS IN A GROUP OF BUSINESS OWNERS AND IN A GROUP OF BUSINESS LEADERS - AMONG A GROUP OF AND IN A GROUP OF BUSINESS LEADERS - AMONG A GROUP OF BUSINESS LEADERS.

LEADERS - AMONG A GROUP OF BUSINESS LEADERS.

THEY ARE LOOKING FOR BUSINESS LEADERS.

THEY ARE LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES.

THEY ARE LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES.

THEY ARE WILLING AND HAPPY TO OPPORTUNITIES.

THEY ARE WILLING AND HAPPY TO REACH OUT AND, AND HELP YOU AND THEY ARE WILLING AND HAPPY TO REACH OUT AND, AND HELP YOU AND GUIDE YOU.

REACH OUT AND, AND HELP YOU AND GUIDE YOU.

>> CIDALIA AND NATALIA BECAME GUIDE YOU.

>> CIDALIA AND NATALIA BECAME CO-OWNERS OF THE FAMILY ROAD >> CIDALIA AND NATALIA BECAME CO-OWNERS OF THE FAMILY ROAD CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS IN 2008.

CO-OWNERS OF THE FAMILY ROAD CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS IN 2008.

>> WE OBVIOUSLY ENTERED INTO THE CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS IN 2008.

>> WE OBVIOUSLY ENTERED INTO THE INDUSTRY AS LEADERS OF THIS >> WE OBVIOUSLY ENTERED INTO THE INDUSTRY AS LEADERS OF THIS COMPANY AT THE START OF WHAT WAS INDUSTRY AS LEADERS OF THIS COMPANY AT THE START OF WHAT WAS AN EXTREMELY DIFFICULT RECESSION COMPANY AT THE START OF WHAT WAS AN EXTREMELY DIFFICULT RECESSION AND SO THE CHALLENGES HAVE BEEN AN EXTREMELY DIFFICULT RECESSION AND SO THE CHALLENGES HAVE BEEN INSTRUMENTAL THEY'VE BEEN UGH, AND SO THE CHALLENGES HAVE BEEN INSTRUMENTAL THEY'VE BEEN UGH, LARGE BUT WE'VE OVERCOME THEM INSTRUMENTAL THEY'VE BEEN UGH, LARGE BUT WE'VE OVERCOME THEM ONE BY ONE.

LARGE BUT WE'VE OVERCOME THEM ONE BY ONE.

>> THEY TURNED THE 28 YEAR OLD ONE BY ONE.

>> THEY TURNED THE 28 YEAR OLD FIRM INTO A $60 MILLION DOLLAR A >> THEY TURNED THE 28 YEAR OLD FIRM INTO A $60 MILLION DOLLAR A YEAR ENTERPRISE.

FIRM INTO A $60 MILLION DOLLAR A YEAR ENTERPRISE.

GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS WERE KEY TO YEAR ENTERPRISE.

GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS WERE KEY TO EXPANSION MAKING THEIR GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS WERE KEY TO EXPANSION MAKING THEIR CERTIFICATION INVALUABLE.

EXPANSION MAKING THEIR CERTIFICATION INVALUABLE.

UNTIL RECENTLY, CONSTRUCTION WAS CERTIFICATION INVALUABLE.

UNTIL RECENTLY, CONSTRUCTION WAS ONE FIELD WHERE THE NUMBER OF UNTIL RECENTLY, CONSTRUCTION WAS ONE FIELD WHERE THE NUMBER OF WOMEN-OWNED BUSINESSES WAS SMALL ONE FIELD WHERE THE NUMBER OF WOMEN-OWNED BUSINESSES WAS SMALL AND NEVER SEEMED TO RISE.

WOMEN-OWNED BUSINESSES WAS SMALL AND NEVER SEEMED TO RISE.

>> THE FEDERAL MANDATES FOR AND NEVER SEEMED TO RISE.

>> THE FEDERAL MANDATES FOR CERTAIN INDUSTRIES THAT ARE NOT >> THE FEDERAL MANDATES FOR CERTAIN INDUSTRIES THAT ARE NOT ACCUSTOMED TO SEEING WOMEN IN CERTAIN INDUSTRIES THAT ARE NOT ACCUSTOMED TO SEEING WOMEN IN LEADERSHIP ROLES TO REALLY OPEN ACCUSTOMED TO SEEING WOMEN IN LEADERSHIP ROLES TO REALLY OPEN UP A GATEWAY FOR THE WOMEN TO LEADERSHIP ROLES TO REALLY OPEN UP A GATEWAY FOR THE WOMEN TO GET INTO LEADERSHIP ROLES.

UP A GATEWAY FOR THE WOMEN TO GET INTO LEADERSHIP ROLES.

BUT IT'S BY THEIR OWN DEVICE, GET INTO LEADERSHIP ROLES.

BUT IT'S BY THEIR OWN DEVICE, THEIR OWN HARD WORK, THAT WOMEN BUT IT'S BY THEIR OWN DEVICE, THEIR OWN HARD WORK, THAT WOMEN CAN STAY IN THESE ROLES.

THEIR OWN HARD WORK, THAT WOMEN CAN STAY IN THESE ROLES.

IT IS NOT AS A FAVOR TO THEI CAN STAY IN THESE ROLES.

IT IS NOT AS A FAVOR TO THEI GENDER.

IT IS NOT AS A FAVOR TO THEI GENDER.

[ LAUGHTER ] GENDER.

[ LAUGHTER ] >> SO, MEGAN BEYER, ALMOST 20 [ LAUGHTER ] >> SO, MEGAN BEYER, ALMOST 20 YEARS, AND WE'RE STILL AT 4%.

>> SO, MEGAN BEYER, ALMOST 20 YEARS, AND WE'RE STILL AT 4%.

YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T EVEN GET 5% YEARS, AND WE'RE STILL AT 4%.

YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T EVEN GET 5% OF GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T EVEN GET 5% OF GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS CONTRACTED OUT TO WOMEN-OWNED OF GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS CONTRACTED OUT TO WOMEN-OWNED BUSINESSES?

CONTRACTED OUT TO WOMEN-OWNED BUSINESSES?

>> THE DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY IS BUSINESSES?

>> THE DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY IS 15% AND ENERGY IS BARELY OVER >> THE DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY IS 15% AND ENERGY IS BARELY OVER 1%, SO, YEAH, GOOD GUYS AND BAD 15% AND ENERGY IS BARELY OVER 1%, SO, YEAH, GOOD GUYS AND BAD GUYS, BUT SOMETIMES -- YOU KNOW, 1%, SO, YEAH, GOOD GUYS AND BAD GUYS, BUT SOMETIMES -- YOU KNOW, I WAS ON THE BOARD OF COMMUNITY GUYS, BUT SOMETIMES -- YOU KNOW, I WAS ON THE BOARD OF COMMUNITY COLLEGES IN VIRGINIA.

I WAS ON THE BOARD OF COMMUNITY COLLEGES IN VIRGINIA.

WE HAD COLLEGES AND ALWAYS COLLEGES IN VIRGINIA.

WE HAD COLLEGES AND ALWAYS BUILDING PROJECTS AND GOVERNOR WE HAD COLLEGES AND ALWAYS BUILDING PROJECTS AND GOVERNOR WARNER OF VIRGINIA, NOW A BUILDING PROJECTS AND GOVERNOR WARNER OF VIRGINIA, NOW A SENATOR, HE HAD JUST LEFT OFFICE WARNER OF VIRGINIA, NOW A SENATOR, HE HAD JUST LEFT OFFICE AS GOVERNOR BY HAD A STRONG SENATOR, HE HAD JUST LEFT OFFICE AS GOVERNOR BY HAD A STRONG MANDATE TO BEEF UP THE CONTRACTS AS GOVERNOR BY HAD A STRONG MANDATE TO BEEF UP THE CONTRACTS WOMEN GET.

MANDATE TO BEEF UP THE CONTRACTS WOMEN GET.

I WANTED TO SEE A REPORT AND I WOMEN GET.

I WANTED TO SEE A REPORT AND I SAID, HOW ARE WE DOING?

I WANTED TO SEE A REPORT AND I SAID, HOW ARE WE DOING?

HE SAID, THERE AREN'T ANY SAID, HOW ARE WE DOING?

HE SAID, THERE AREN'T ANY WOMEN-OWNED CONSTRUCTION FIRMS HE SAID, THERE AREN'T ANY WOMEN-OWNED CONSTRUCTION FIRMS IN VIRGINIA AND SO WE DON'T HAVE WOMEN-OWNED CONSTRUCTION FIRMS IN VIRGINIA AND SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY.

IN VIRGINIA AND SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY.

SO THAT WAS THE END OF THE DAY.

ANY.

SO THAT WAS THE END OF THE DAY.

BUT WHAT WE DO IS HELP SO THAT WAS THE END OF THE DAY.

BUT WHAT WE DO IS HELP GOVERNMENT ENTITIES AND BUT WHAT WE DO IS HELP GOVERNMENT ENTITIES AND CORPORATIONS BE ABLE TO LET A GOVERNMENT ENTITIES AND CORPORATIONS BE ABLE TO LET A CONTRACT OUT BASED ON CORPORATIONS BE ABLE TO LET A CONTRACT OUT BASED ON SUBCONTRACTORS, BECAUSE THEY'RE CONTRACT OUT BASED ON SUBCONTRACTORS, BECAUSE THEY'RE ABLE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THESE SUBCONTRACTORS, BECAUSE THEY'RE ABLE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THESE SUBCONTRACTORS ARE CERTIFIABLE, ABLE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THESE SUBCONTRACTORS ARE CERTIFIABLE, WOMEN-OWNED BUSINESSES AND, EVEN SUBCONTRACTORS ARE CERTIFIABLE, WOMEN-OWNED BUSINESSES AND, EVEN THOUGH THIS CORPORATION THAT WOMEN-OWNED BUSINESSES AND, EVEN THOUGH THIS CORPORATION THAT YOU'RE LETTING THE CONTRACT TO THOUGH THIS CORPORATION THAT YOU'RE LETTING THE CONTRACT TO MAY NOT BE WOMEN-OWNED, THEY'RE YOU'RE LETTING THE CONTRACT TO MAY NOT BE WOMEN-OWNED, THEY'RE USING TWO, THREE TIERS -- YOUR MAY NOT BE WOMEN-OWNED, THEY'RE USING TWO, THREE TIERS -- YOUR MONEY WILL BE FLOWING DOWN TO USING TWO, THREE TIERS -- YOUR MONEY WILL BE FLOWING DOWN TO THOSE SUBCONTRACTORS, SO THAT'S MONEY WILL BE FLOWING DOWN TO THOSE SUBCONTRACTORS, SO THAT'S ONE WAY OF AT LEAST MAKING SURE THOSE SUBCONTRACTORS, SO THAT'S ONE WAY OF AT LEAST MAKING SURE WE'RE GROWING THESE SMALL ONE WAY OF AT LEAST MAKING SURE WE'RE GROWING THESE SMALL BUSINESSES TO BECOME THE PRIME WE'RE GROWING THESE SMALL BUSINESSES TO BECOME THE PRIME CONTRACTOR NEXT TIME.

BUSINESSES TO BECOME THE PRIME CONTRACTOR NEXT TIME.

>> AND TO YOUR POINT, BONNIE, CONTRACTOR NEXT TIME.

>> AND TO YOUR POINT, BONNIE, THE WHOLE WORLD "CERTIFICATION" >> AND TO YOUR POINT, BONNIE, THE WHOLE WORLD "CERTIFICATION" THAT PUTS PEOPLE TO SLEEP THE WHOLE WORLD "CERTIFICATION" THAT PUTS PEOPLE TO SLEEP SOMETIMES I CAN'T EVEN THAT PUTS PEOPLE TO SLEEP SOMETIMES I CAN'T EVEN PRONOUNCE.

SOMETIMES I CAN'T EVEN PRONOUNCE.

[ LAUGHTER ] PRONOUNCE.

[ LAUGHTER ] I THINK PART OF THE CHALLENGE IS [ LAUGHTER ] I THINK PART OF THE CHALLENGE IS THERE ARE SOME OF THE I THINK PART OF THE CHALLENGE IS THERE ARE SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT LEAD TO THE THERE ARE SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT LEAD TO THE CERTIFICATION ARE FAIRLY REQUIREMENTS THAT LEAD TO THE CERTIFICATION ARE FAIRLY STRANGE, IN PARTICULAR, BECAUSE CERTIFICATION ARE FAIRLY STRANGE, IN PARTICULAR, BECAUSE WOMEN DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO STRANGE, IN PARTICULAR, BECAUSE WOMEN DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO CAPITAL.

WOMEN DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO CAPITAL.

YOU HAD TO HAVE HAD A THRIVING CAPITAL.

YOU HAD TO HAVE HAD A THRIVING BUSINESS FOR TWO YEARS, YOU HAVE YOU HAD TO HAVE HAD A THRIVING BUSINESS FOR TWO YEARS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE REACHED A CERTAIN LEVEL BUSINESS FOR TWO YEARS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE REACHED A CERTAIN LEVEL OF REVENUES, AND OFTENTIMES YOU TO HAVE REACHED A CERTAIN LEVEL OF REVENUES, AND OFTENTIMES YOU HAVE A GREAT IDEA, BUT PEOPLE OF REVENUES, AND OFTENTIMES YOU HAVE A GREAT IDEA, BUT PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOU EITHER AS HAVE A GREAT IDEA, BUT PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOU EITHER AS A SUBCONTRACTOR OR EVEN A DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOU EITHER AS A SUBCONTRACTOR OR EVEN A THIRD-TIER CONTRACTOR BECAUSE OF A SUBCONTRACTOR OR EVEN A THIRD-TIER CONTRACTOR BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF ACCESS OF CAPITAL THIRD-TIER CONTRACTOR BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF ACCESS OF CAPITAL THAT GETS IN A WAY.

THE LACK OF ACCESS OF CAPITAL THAT GETS IN A WAY.

>> IT'S A SERIOUS PROBLEM FOR THAT GETS IN A WAY.

>> IT'S A SERIOUS PROBLEM FOR WOMEN AND ALSO MINORITY-OWNED >> IT'S A SERIOUS PROBLEM FOR WOMEN AND ALSO MINORITY-OWNED BUSINESSES, THEY HAVE THE SAME WOMEN AND ALSO MINORITY-OWNED BUSINESSES, THEY HAVE THE SAME ISSUES AND IT'S A DOUBLE WHAMMY.

BUSINESSES, THEY HAVE THE SAME ISSUES AND IT'S A DOUBLE WHAMMY.

A BACK WOMAN OR A WOMAN OF ISSUES AND IT'S A DOUBLE WHAMMY.

A BACK WOMAN OR A WOMAN OF COLOR, IT'S ESPECIALLY A BACK WOMAN OR A WOMAN OF COLOR, IT'S ESPECIALLY DIFFICULT.

COLOR, IT'S ESPECIALLY DIFFICULT.

THERE NEEDS TO BE A LOT MORE DIFFICULT.

THERE NEEDS TO BE A LOT MORE EFFORT PUT IN TO MAKE SURE EVERY THERE NEEDS TO BE A LOT MORE EFFORT PUT IN TO MAKE SURE EVERY T IS CROSSED TO DETERMINE WHERE EFFORT PUT IN TO MAKE SURE EVERY T IS CROSSED TO DETERMINE WHERE CAN WE FIND THESE T IS CROSSED TO DETERMINE WHERE CAN WE FIND THESE SUBCONTRACTEES, BECAUSE I'M CAN WE FIND THESE SUBCONTRACTEES, BECAUSE I'M TELLING YOU, THO BUSINESSES SUBCONTRACTEES, BECAUSE I'M TELLING YOU, THO BUSINESSES EXIST, AND IT'S WONDERFUL WHEN TELLING YOU, THO BUSINESSES EXIST, AND IT'S WONDERFUL WHEN YOU FIND ORGANIZATIONS THAT CAN EXIST, AND IT'S WONDERFUL WHEN YOU FIND ORGANIZATIONS THAT CAN LINK THE TWO TOGETHER.

YOU FIND ORGANIZATIONS THAT CAN LINK THE TWO TOGETHER.

>> 250 OF THE FORTUNE 500 ARE LINK THE TWO TOGETHER.

>> 250 OF THE FORTUNE 500 ARE SIGNED UP, SO THAT, TO ME, SAYS >> 250 OF THE FORTUNE 500 ARE SIGNED UP, SO THAT, TO ME, SAYS THAT THE COMPANIES THAT ARE SIGNED UP, SO THAT, TO ME, SAYS THAT THE COMPANIES THAT ARE GOING TO BE LETTING THESE THAT THE COMPANIES THAT ARE GOING TO BE LETTING THESE CONTRACTS, THEY ARE EAGER TO DO GOING TO BE LETTING THESE CONTRACTS, THEY ARE EAGER TO DO IT AND, SO, TO ME, I'LL TAKE CONTRACTS, THEY ARE EAGER TO DO IT AND, SO, TO ME, I'LL TAKE THAT AS HALF A LOAF.

IT AND, SO, TO ME, I'LL TAKE THAT AS HALF A LOAF.

CERTIFICATION, I THINK, IS THAT AS HALF A LOAF.

CERTIFICATION, I THINK, IS BECOMING MUCH MORE IN DEMAND CERTIFICATION, I THINK, IS BECOMING MUCH MORE IN DEMAND BECAUSE, RIGHT NOW, I JUST FEEL BECOMING MUCH MORE IN DEMAND BECAUSE, RIGHT NOW, I JUST FEEL LIKE WE'RE ON A TIPPING POINT BECAUSE, RIGHT NOW, I JUST FEEL LIKE WE'RE ON A TIPPING POINT WHERE BUSINESSES ARE GETTING LIKE WE'RE ON A TIPPING POINT WHERE BUSINESSES ARE GETTING THAT WOMEN-OWNED BUSINESSES MEAN WHERE BUSINESSES ARE GETTING THAT WOMEN-OWNED BUSINESSES MEAN PROFIT FOR THEM.

THAT WOMEN-OWNED BUSINESSES MEAN PROFIT FOR THEM.

THERE IS A COMPANY CALLED EDGE PROFIT FOR THEM.

THERE IS A COMPANY CALLED EDGE CERTIFICATION THAT'S NOW GOING THERE IS A COMPANY CALLED EDGE CERTIFICATION THAT'S NOW GOING INTO MULTI-NATIONALS AND CERTIFICATION THAT'S NOW GOING INTO MULTI-NATIONALS AND CERTIFYING THEM AS A INTO MULTI-NATIONALS AND CERTIFYING THEM AS A GENDER-FRIENDLY PLACE TO BE, AND CERTIFYING THEM AS A GENDER-FRIENDLY PLACE TO BE, AND THAT'S ANOTHER WAY CERTIFICATION GENDER-FRIENDLY PLACE TO BE, AND THAT'S ANOTHER WAY CERTIFICATION IS USED TO ADVANCE WOMEN.

THAT'S ANOTHER WAY CERTIFICATION IS USED TO ADVANCE WOMEN.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION AS TO IS USED TO ADVANCE WOMEN.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION AS TO WHETHER FEDERAL CONTRACTING >> I HAVE A QUESTION AS TO WHETHER FEDERAL CONTRACTING SHOULD BE THE GREATEST INDICATOR WHETHER FEDERAL CONTRACTING SHOULD BE THE GREATEST INDICATOR OF SUCCESS FOR WOMEN-OWNED SHOULD BE THE GREATEST INDICATOR OF SUCCESS FOR WOMEN-OWNED BUSINESSES.

OF SUCCESS FOR WOMEN-OWNED BUSINESSES.

A LOT OF WOMEN OWN SMALL BUSINESSES.

A LOT OF WOMEN OWN SMALL COMPANIES THAT MEET THEIR VISION A LOT OF WOMEN OWN SMALL COMPANIES THAT MEET THEIR VISION OF THEIR NEEDS, AND THAT'S THE COMPANIES THAT MEET THEIR VISION OF THEIR NEEDS, AND THAT'S THE VISION WE SHOULD BE APPLYING.

OF THEIR NEEDS, AND THAT'S THE VISION WE SHOULD BE APPLYING.

>> THE PROBLEM IS WHEN YOU'RE VISION WE SHOULD BE APPLYING.

>> THE PROBLEM IS WHEN YOU'RE STARTING A SMALL BUSINESS AND >> THE PROBLEM IS WHEN YOU'RE STARTING A SMALL BUSINESS AND WANT TO GROW IT QUICKLY, THERE STARTING A SMALL BUSINESS AND WANT TO GROW IT QUICKLY, THERE IS NO QUICKER WAY THAN A FEDERAL WANT TO GROW IT QUICKLY, THERE IS NO QUICKER WAY THAN A FEDERAL CONTRACT BECAUSE THEY'RE SO IS NO QUICKER WAY THAN A FEDERAL CONTRACT BECAUSE THEY'RE SO LUCRATIVE.

CONTRACT BECAUSE THEY'RE SO LUCRATIVE.

BEFORE WE CLOSE, ONE MORE THING: LUCRATIVE.

BEFORE WE CLOSE, ONE MORE THING: TO THE CONTRARY SENDS A HUG AND BEFORE WE CLOSE, ONE MORE THING: TO THE CONTRARY SENDS A HUG AND A HIGH FIVE TO MALALA YOUSAVZI, TO THE CONTRARY SENDS A HUG AND A HIGH FIVE TO MALALA YOUSAVZI, THE ASTOUNDINGLY GIFTED A HIGH FIVE TO MALALA YOUSAVZI, THE ASTOUNDINGLY GIFTED PAKISTANI TEENAGER WHO LAST WEEK THE ASTOUNDINGLY GIFTED PAKISTANI TEENAGER WHO LAST WEEK DELIVERED A MEMORABLE ADDRESS TO PAKISTANI TEENAGER WHO LAST WEEK DELIVERED A MEMORABLE ADDRESS TO THE UNITED NATIONS.

DELIVERED A MEMORABLE ADDRESS TO THE UNITED NATIONS.

THIS WEEK SHE RECEIVED A BIZARRE THE UNITED NATIONS.

THIS WEEK SHE RECEIVED A BIZARRE LETTER FROM A SENIOR TALIBAN THIS WEEK SHE RECEIVED A BIZARRE LETTER FROM A SENIOR TALIBAN COMMANDER.

LETTER FROM A SENIOR TALIBAN COMMANDER.

ADNAN RASHID CLAIMED THE TALIBAN COMMANDER.

ADNAN RASHID CLAIMED THE TALIBAN DIDN'T SHOOT HER IN THE HEAD ADNAN RASHID CLAIMED THE TALIBAN DIDN'T SHOOT HER IN THE HEAD LAST YEAR BECAUSE SHE CRUSADES DIDN'T SHOOT HER IN THE HEAD LAST YEAR BECAUSE SHE CRUSADES FOR GIRLS' EDUCATION IN LAST YEAR BECAUSE SHE CRUSADES FOR GIRLS' EDUCATION IN PAKISTAN, BUT BECAUSE SHE SAID FOR GIRLS' EDUCATION IN PAKISTAN, BUT BECAUSE SHE SAID BAD THINGS ABOUT THE TALIBAN.

PAKISTAN, BUT BECAUSE SHE SAID BAD THINGS ABOUT THE TALIBAN.

WHAT-EVER!

BAD THINGS ABOUT THE TALIBAN.

WHAT-EVER!

>> WE WANT MALALA TO KNOW SHE IS WHAT-EVER!

>> WE WANT MALALA TO KNOW SHE IS THE CROWN JEWEL IN THE FIGHT FOR >> WE WANT MALALA TO KNOW SHE IS THE CROWN JEWEL IN THE FIGHT FOR GIRLS' AND WOMEN'S RIGHTS NOT THE CROWN JEWEL IN THE FIGHT FOR GIRLS' AND WOMEN'S RIGHTS NOT JUST IN ISLAMIC COUNTRIES, BUT GIRLS' AND WOMEN'S RIGHTS NOT JUST IN ISLAMIC COUNTRIES, BUT WORLDWIDE.

JUST IN ISLAMIC COUNTRIES, BUT WORLDWIDE.

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